if you see someone driving as unaware as the one in the residential street, don't go alongside unless you are 100% sure they are stopped and staying stopped.
After months of watching your videos I’ve passed my driving test today with 4 minors!! Thank you Ashley, your videos have helped me immensely and I’m sure you’ll be getting clips from me in the coming months - although most likely driving fails, I’ve still got a lot to learn :)
Clip 22: So much for the comment by Clarkson that Saab drivers never ever inconvenience anyone. Joking aside, this kind of incident is fairly common. Even when it's pretty darned obvious that the cam car should have gone before the Saab...after all, it's already ahead of it as the road narrows AND it's the cam cars turn to merge anyway. Yet the Saab insists on a risky "squeeze undertake" just to get ahead one car...and then slows down! I will never understand this kind of behavior. In some countries, I believe it's actually illegal to break the natural order of a zipper merge. Illegal or not, it's pretty poor and inconsiderate driving,
here, Saab used the slogan "find your own road" for a while. which was ironic, because that's what people yelled at Saab drivers when they did stuff like that.
I've had and seen many an occasion like this where the blindingly obvious escapes the attention of the obviously blind - and bloodyminded. It's similar to the move by the cammer in clip 15. Surely, there is no amount of hurry that doesn't allow you to let the natural order of things resolve before making your way past them.
Someone behind me leant on the horn at me because he wanted to merge in front of me, even though he was behind me the whole time? Not sure what he expected me to do... slam on my brakes and let his majesty past rather than driving normally along the road? I don't know why merging is so difficult, if someone is in front of you give them space to merge, too difficult for some...
Clip 20, 6:44+ You're right, Ashley, primary position would have given a much better position. Perhaps the video would then be about the impatience of a driver honking the cyclist out of the way because they have never learned that cyclists have equal status on the roads. Looking at the length of the roadworks, it would be a very confidant cyclist who would have held primary for that distance. However, not doing so does not absolve the passing drivers of their responsibility. At present, the HC says give as much room as you would when passing a car. That doesn't mean the same gap, it means the same amount of road space. Pause at 7'00", and you can clearly see a car would not fit between the cones and the passing car. Under the rules currently before Parliament, the distance between them should be 1.5m (up to 30mph). the decision to overtake the cyclist is the driver's not the cyclist's, and by any measure, the driver should not have taken it. So, the cyclist would have improved the situation by taking primary position, but he is not required to and it is therefore not a fault. The two cars that pass did so without leaving sufficient space. You said they left as much space as they could. If that is not enough, then the pass should be avoided. That is a fault. As for the reaction... the cyclist's safety was put at risk; he displayed a response. The two matters are not comparable. If we want to learn form this clip, the real learning is that drivers of 1-2 tonne vehicles have a considerable responsibility and, in this instance, the greater duty of care (as the emerging HC reinforces more specifically), to manage their driving more safely than was evident here. The cyclist could do with some Bikeability/NSCT training to build confidence in managing the expectations and actions of those behind him. The two are not equivalent.
The rule you quote from the HC about leaving as much room as passing a car is misunderstood (from yourself also), so the updates due soon are a positive upgrade. Your disagreement with my analysis of the gesture is disappointing. Many motorists on a daily basis do things that put me and my pupils at danger, does that mean I should react in the same way? I can still die in a car you know, or does that not matter as I have more protection?
@@ashley_neal I'm curious to know why you think my understanding of Rule 163 is incorrect. My position (one which is widely held in policy, cycling advocacy and policing circles), is based on the guidance to overtaking motorists to leave "as much room as you would when overtaking a car". For those of us who work in policy, we have spent a long time trying to educate people that "room" is the amount of space available to the motorcyclist, cyclist or horse rider, not the gap between them and the passing car - _that_ is the mistake people make. This is helpfully demonstrated in the diagram accompanying the rule, which shows the driver moving into the next lane (alongside the cyclist who is in secondary position, not even primary). The emerging wording switches to the gap between, and is probably more helpful in that it specifies a distance for up to 30mph (but unfortunately drops the recommended 2m for >30). You say that many motorists do things that put you and your pupils in danger. We both drive; we both cycle. Do you really think the level of danger is routinely the same? I'm disappointed when people imply a false equivalence like this. But if you were put in immediate danger to the same degree of harm, I would not be surprised at anybody's reaction containing some degree of Anglo Saxon. I'm not condoning the gesture; but I'm not going to criticise his freedom of expression. Does that give away his attitude? Perhaps, but if he felt his life was put in danger without the aid of a metal frame and airbags to protect him, a reaction like that is not so hard to sympathise with. My response to the criticism is: let him. If you're focusing on the reaction to the situation and not the situation (or treating it as if it betrays his attitude all along), you are focusing on the wrong target and blaming the victim. To bring this back to the players: - The cyclist had options (if he was aware of them): ride primary; ride where he was; or even, perhaps, to ride in the coned-off area. According to your video, we agree that primary would have rendered him in better position for visibility and to secure road space to assert his view that it was not safe to overtake. But not everybody has the confidence that it takes to adopt that position, especially given the road layout. He may previously have experienced hostility from motorists who knew no better. I would have taken a practical approach to somebody's decision to cycle in the coned off area - probably illegal, and exposing himself to the dangers of a roadworks area, but an area where work had clearly not significantly begun, so benign with caution. In secondary, as ridden, he is still entitled to the same duty of care that a motorist on any single lane road is required to give. - A careful driver would have recognised that it was not possible to pass in accordance with the instructions and diagram in the Highway Code, and would have waited the few extra seconds. They would have been Jo[h]n-like in their patience and taken pride in shepherding the cyclist safely to the other end. Two drivers chose to pass. That is where the criticism should lie, because the cyclist didn't actually do anything wrong. - The supervisor of the roadworks also had a duty of care under the (legally binding) Safety at Street Works and Road Works to consider how their works have changed the safety for vulnerable road users. Perhaps more consideration should have been given in advance of any of these road users chancing upon the area.
@@ashley_neal ouch! Come on Ashley, you know the risk of dying as a cyclist is *way* higher than as a driver/passenger in a vehicle. What a ridiculous false equivalence claim to make. As a driving instructor I would expect you have to have a better grasp of physics, and the inherent mismatch in kinetic energies between a 1-2 ton vehicle and a person on a bicycle. Close passes like this cause cyclists to feel physically threatened. They are in immediate danger, and the adrenalin-fuelled response is only natural. What may happen occasionally to you and your pupils in vehicles happens to cyclists every single day.
I think as a cyclist I would have been on the other side of the cones. Close passes can be annoying, but the real issue is with passes that are fast and close. If you're going to cycle hunched into the side of the road, don't get angry when drivers take the hint and overtake you.
@GMBasix I will do a video on Rule 163 as many people think that it means you need to give the width of the car which is incorrect. I would overtake a car with less room if it and I were travelling slowly, the faster the speed the more space it requires. This is where the highway code is vague and wrong as it's down to interpretation. Your point about having experience previous hostility is no argument to act in that way for every time in the future. I have already explained to @Simon Cope on his post but there are many times in my videos where I point out deficiencies in road use from all different categories of road user, this does not mean they are the only problem in the clip, it may mean that the points I wish to make has not been covered in enough detail in the past. I would like you to reflect on your point about "his life was put in danger" truthfully tell me if you really believe that that was the case in this clip? Personally if motorist took even that amount of care (although I wouldn't have passed until the roadworks had finished) cyclists would be less danger than they are generally. You understand full well my dislike for how a percentage of motorists treat cyclists, but when I suggest something that a cyclist could do better many in the cohort take to their keypads. Do you truly believe in your statement saying the cyclist didn't actually do anything wrong? Was his reaction Jon C like? The message from the clip was "too many people want to point fingers rather than taking responsibility for their own actions" I see this is strong in many people still. @Simon Cope I still cycle even though it's occasionally but I teach many days a week so I can make that comparison between driving lessons and cycling, can you? Or are you assuming?
Ooh, I know clip #9 (3:15) that junction is absolutely lethal. Not only is it tucked away behind the corner, but it’s much sharper than the camera gives credit to. Cars emerging the other way generally have to use the oncoming lane to get round
It's several years since I used that junction but once driven, never forgotten. As I recall it was a matter of a deep breath, a bit of preemptive swearing, then go for it.
Ah ash, I always have a smile on my face when I see these type of clips. It's like some of the cammers are thinking "ill send my clips to Ashley, he will tell them off and say that I'm an amazing driver. It's like family fortunes when they got and an answer wrong. They say it so confidently. Then, "Our Ashley Neil says"? X X X🤣🤣🤣 Keep them coming mate
3:10 #9 I feel that the cammer didn't help the situation, you could see the small car was in imminent danger of oncoming vehicles, yet they continue to accelerate and beep the horn, rather than slowing down to make it easier for them
Exactly, the cammer could have easily helped this situation and made it smooth. Instead they just put that small car in so much more unnecessary danger
clip #18 (5:33) was like watching from the perspective of a mother who is watching their kid and knows the kid's about to do something dangerous but isn't sure how and when. I honestly have no idea what that driver was trying to achieve.
07:10 I agree with you that the cars are giving him space. But let's face it, you'd fail your test for passing him in this situation. You'd be told that you need to 'stay well back' and 'take extra care' for the cyclist.
3:39 When I was in Lahore on British Council business I encountered much more interesting driving than that. The University department was on the Grand Trunk Road (now, sadly, screwed up by a chinese elevated railway). It was common to see vehicles weaving in and out to avoid the holy cattle crossing the road. The informal taxi system was of interest too: at traffic lights people would lie on the bonnet of a stationary car, taking a ride to the next lights where they would slide off and walk on they way.
Ah, the A628/A6204 junction there at 3:20 or so. It’s an awful junction to get out of if it’s busy. If you’re very lucky you can get a gauge on the traffic as you approach the junction and spot any possible gaps, because not only is it an extremely tight angle, the road bends down and round a hill to the left so visibility at the give way line is abysmal. That was a spectacularly poor pull out though, and I’ve seen some horrors there over the years!
At 3:17 that junction is near me and having to emerge is a bit of a nightmare. The view to the left is pretty much completely obscured and the view to the right is poor. Drivers panic because they assume traffic approaching unseen from the left will be traveling at 50mph, this isn't the case as before the junction there is an S bend that slows traffic down considerably. Drivers in their panic assume they need to use speed to lessen their exposure to the danger of the emerge, whereas they do have time to creep when the road is clear to their right. In the video, the dash cam driver passes what looks like a lay-by, this was the original junction that was moved to a "safer" location.
The ‘swerve tell- off’ for the undertaker is shocking - why reprimand a dangerous action with an even more dangerous one? Ashley must get a lot of clips sent in because I drive so many miles and very rarely do I see any driving as bad as in these clips.
It was a ridiculous thing to do that could have had very serious consequences had they hit the undertaker and caused an accident which, at that speed, could have been lethal. What defence would they use in court if they'd killed the other driver? The fact they remained in the right lane afterwards suggests they thought they'd done nothing wrong which is rather scary.
Not sure it was intentional - the people carrier driver I think was intending to take that exit and they were struggling with lane positioning and timing/judging their speed - I'd put money on them being under the influence or otherwise incapacitated and shouldn't have been driving.
Ah, 2:13 onwards. It's been a while since I was last on York Road in Leeds, but it's nice to see some things never change. - If you drive slowly enough, you can pick up parts for most cars on that road, they're just scattered along the gutter.
I love how #17 was so transparently dumb it wasn't even deserving of any narration. For #18 (from about 6:03) I'm really not sure why the cammer was tagging right behind like that. Did he think they were pulling over to the right? If so, why not just hang back a little and then pass when they'd stopped? I was just a little perplexed by that behaviour.
I suspect #18 was going to reverse into a drive of one of the houses on the left, but got spooked by the close proximity of the car behind and just kept driving in a state of mild panic.
@@MrSonicAdvance I've just got my licence and have yet to try reverse parking into my driveway, I've gone front in each time. I'm sure the first time I do it I'll look a little like clip #18, although I like to think I'm not quite that uncoordinated and erratic...
Some interesting clips - number 9 (3:10) for me first instinct was the cammer could have slowed down earlier to fix the problem, but on second viewing hard to tell if could have slowed any after the emerge was visible- still quite scary with the oncoming lorry! Number 19 (6:30) I got the impression the two cars were more concerned with being in front each other than checking the road was clear, fortunately they both spotted the cyclist in time (although I suspect it was in fact an illegal moped judging by the speed uphill without pedalling) Number 20 absolutely agree. People often say to me that drivers are getting worse around cyclists, but my experience seems to be the opposite. I think this might be due to how my road position is constantly improving rather than driving standards getting better- if you know where to position yourself in the lane the number of close passes goes down massively. (For example there's a pinch point at a pedestrian island on my commute, years ago I got a couple of bad passes there but now I shoulder check (well in advance, several times), find my gap, signal, take primary and virtually never have an issue). The issue though is that takes an enormous amount of confidence to do, as doing the safer thing feels riskier, and a lot of painted bike lanes suggest that the road position and passing distance above are correct. However 2 out of 2 motorists couldn't be bothered to wait 10 seconds before overtaking safely.
I know the junction in clip 9 very well. It's possibly the single most dangerous one I know. Joining a busy A road at an angle with very poor sight lines in both directions. Why it hasn't been redesigned is something of a mystery.
8:20 I think where a major road such as a motorway divides into different directions, it is never a good place to pass or overtake as people often make a late decision.
I might have considered making a mental note of the numberplate, parking up and informing the police on that one. Driving that erratically indicates at least some sort of drink or drug driving and I would rather it be a false alarm than have to read about a fatality in the papers the next day.
4:54 is an interesting one. If I was in that situation I'd have held back just in case they did exactly what they did. I never want to join a road or a motorway parallel to another car. To me, the risk of them changing lanes and hitting me is too high.
I suppose it’s technically an undertake too at that point, which unfortunately means it’s even less likely the other vehicle will be watching out. I think it’s solid advice to hold back in this situation. I’d do exactly the same.
Regarding clip #20: This is something of a common mistake I see even experienced cyclists make - somehow, they seem to be more worried about people coming from behind (whom they can do absolutely nothing about) than the space to their sides (which they can and should control). That doesn't exactly make the overtake a good one (I'd hazard a guess that there just wasn't enough space for an overtake to begin with, though it's hard to tell for certain from the video alone) but the reaction by the cyclist wasn't at all helpful either - it doesn't look like they even realized they had a major part in this incident.
If the cyclist was knocked off would the cyclist be partly at fault or would the motorist carry the can? I suspect 100% motorist and careless driving charge
@@leetori1 I'm not sure about Britain, but at least here in Germany, cyclists are required to keep at least 70cm from the side line or 1m from parked cars. More than that isn't a problem as long as it doesn't impede traffic flow, which wouldn't be the case if there isn't enough space for an overtake anyway. Failing to maintain proper space generally is enough to make the courts consider you partly at fault. However, on the drivers side, starting an overtake without enough room to finish it safely is likely to be considered reckless driving. Ultimately, the courts would likely decide that the majority of the fault (but not all of it) lies with the driver, though precise results will vary.
I have to agree with Ashley 100% though, the driving was signalling for overtaking. I see it in general that cyclists behave as though they are part of parallel traffic to the vehicle traffic, when in reality they are part of it, having to follow the same rules (and courtesies). Going into short gaps (like a driveway between parked cars) is often asking for trouble, and would imply that you will wait until the car is past. Also remember that doing this will reduce how visible you are (and don't get me starting on appalling light and reflector use by almost all cyclists).
@@PauldeVrieze I didn't say anything contradictory to that, though - I just suspect the issue with many cyclists is at least in part fear rather than deliberate behavior (my evidence for that is extensive but completely anecdotal - I get to talk to a lot of people as a representative of a local cyclists association). The cyclist didn't look like they were even maintaining 70cm from the roadside. Add to that the driver failing to maintain 1.5m safety distance (this is inner-city traffic, right?) to the cyclist and you've got exactly the situation we see in the clip. To be fair though, I've seen (and experienced) far worse versions of this - which in my book makes the cyclists reaction all the more difficult to justify.
Yes you probably should ride in the middle there. Ultimately it is a balance between two risks. If you ride right next to the edge, people will make close passes. If you ride in the middle, you may end up with someone driving his car literally 1 metre behind you. You’re much more vulnerable to traffic aggression on a bicycle. The clip has no sound, it is possible someone was leaning on the horn.
1:16 pretty they’ve realised at the last second that’s the exit they need to take, but instead of going round again and moving into the outside lane, they do the lazy thing and cut across.
There was good advice on this channel before about staying staggered if possible. Although it is natural to do that, I have found it useful it being an explicit thing to try to do.
Clip1: I know people can be fed up with lane hogging (and retributive action is not only bad form, but highly dangerous), but before even grumbling to oneself, at least consider whether they had the opportunity to move back safely, and sufficient space is given so they neither need to tailgate nor cut in, nor a combination of both, and they are not providing space for joining traffic from a slip-road. So the Jaguar driver is expecting the lane 3 drivers to move immediately back to lane 2, which would be another major bugbear of drivers: namely, cutting-in. Then proceeds to tell them off by doing just that! Don't get me wrong, I loathe lane hogging, but the best examples I'm sure we're all familiar with: they're in lane 3 like they're policing the speed limit, and there's plenty of space to move back to lane 2, or from lane 2 to lane 1, but they just don't. I'm not crowding them, so they've got the space, and they're not in lane 2 to provide space for vehicles from a joining slip road. But there they still sit.
I once gotten told off after flashing a lane 3 hogger in a 4-lane motorway. He complied and moved over to the lane 2, which was free, lane 1 was busy though. He then followed me, flashed his lights, overtook showing the 1-finger-salute. His excuse? Perhaps he wanted to keep lane 2 free in case someone from lane 1 would come out. Still...
@@alasdairduncan3 The speed limit is 70mph. Hogger in lane 3 may show 70mph on his clock but his true speed my be 65 mph. If the hogger is doing 60mph in lane 3 he can be undertaken by another car doing 70mph, so he's not policing the limit.
@@alasdairduncan3 There is behind and there is directly behind. I'm in lane 2 and there's a car in front of me in lane 3 I can pass it on its left within the speed limit.
Clip 7: The car park incident. Although in no way excusing the other car, I'm trying to determine whether it was on route to exiting the car park or taking a short cut across a few empty spaces to make it easier to line itself up with another intended space further ahead of it. Notice how it's wheels are still pointing relatively straight. Still, should not have encroached on the cam cars' path, though I also wonder if the cam car signalled it was turning left down that laneway. I myself have sometimes taken a "short cut" across other car park spaces just to make it easier to get into some other space in front of me and avoid having to steer at close quarters. Especially if there are concrete pillars or other parked cars involved. Difference is, if I am going to carry out a shortcut manouvre of any kind in a car park, I make sure there are no other road users around that I might either inconvenience or confuse. Otherwise, I follow the official laneway paths and arrows.
5:20 Honest mistakes happen, particularly with out-of-area drivers. Stay alert and maintain a margin for unexpected occurences. You are not to blame because if you are exercising due caution and an impatient driver executes an unsafe overtake.
I'd invented a motor vehicle without indicators, stopped without notice, and was able to be driven with no consideration to others. It was rejected when I tried to register it as Private Hire already had the rights
Clip 9 road junction I know well and although it is a bad one getting a better angle (straighter) helps no end along with good observation and taking your time, then there rarely is a problem for me.
Speaking from experience as a learner biker, and having just done a few months of driving lessons, the CBT course is just not enough to prepare people for the roads, you learn how to use the bike, but as for road safty, you just can't pick it up in one day. I have learnt so much in my year of riding, and due to inexperience I've also made a few mistakes, even crashed, it's only now that I feel I understand the roads properly, but I think a few more days of bassic training would have been a massive help
Good ol’ limmy! As for the cyclist clip, that’s exactly why I prefer to work around traffic rather than have traffic work around me, I’d have either stuck right out as you suggested, or found a footpath and walk it or ride at a walking pace to where the road opens up again
I personally would've ridden on the other side of the cones at a slower pace. Maybe not 100% correct, but there was a lot of space and visibility, so it seems like the safest option to me
@@Timooooooooooooooo I've done that before when there are no workmen about (as they will not expect cyclists to be there and you may collide). Higher risk of punctures though, but usually ok.
Oh I hate to correct your English, but "a wheel's just came off" at 8:00 rubbed me the wrong way :D . It's either "a wheel's just come off" or "a wheel just came off".
Clip 9 is a junction where you need to be very good at flooring it and getting on your way. I commute to Huddersfield this way everyday and i still brick it every night when having to pull out in peak traffic
Last week I was stood beside a one way street, a car parked on the left hand side pulled out of its spot, did a U-turn to park facing the wrong way on the other side of the road about 20 meters further down the road. Sometimes you just have to wonder what is going on in the heads of some drivers.
Just an observation, but it would help the majority of these drivers if they would just drive on the right side of the road. If you check the drivers hand book it clearly states to, drive on the right hand side of the road. So, without question, if you drive on the left, your bound to have porblems. Been driving that way for 62 years and not one issue. : - }
Clip 9: emerging that junction is awful during the day time - you can see the headlights at night making it so much easier. You cannot see left round that corner at all, just have to pray there are no cars coming, always a twitchy bum moment.
The only surprise about clip 15 is that it’s the first time I’ve seen a clip of the Coldra on there! That junction can be pretty bad for things like that. There’s also a left turn slip from the opposite M4 off slip too which has exactly the same problem
Aye, and the irony is that many drivers who think there is space to pass get angry when cyclists legit take the primary pos. They the cyclist as taking the piss - and pulling the finger at them. When the poor cyclist is just looking after their own safety.
Not sure I agree... the cyclist leaving space can be interpreted as invitation to pass, which can pressure the driver to do so. Therefore, if assigning fault in this scenario, the cyclist is at least equally responsible.
Question for you, what was wrong with the way the tipper lorry emerged from the roundabout? It was taking the 12 O clock exit so it was OK for him to be on the left lane, OK the roundabout was not complitly clear but there was a large gap, I am not sure of the problem? Also the Jag, it was catching up with traffic and holding no one up behind him!
Clip 14: I genuinely let out a verbal gasp. I don't want to think about of the injuries that learning motor bike would of got, Unfortunately I can take a good educated guess! Clip 18: That's not little awareness, that's impaired awareness. That's driving under the influence of drink, drugs, or a hypoglycaemic diabetic... If it is the latter then they do help sooner rather than later.
I genuinely think a big problem with lane hogging is lack of education during learning. People often don't learn to use multilane carriageways much (if at all), and many instructors don't teach their students how to to use overtaking lanes when they are on them. So a lot of people just wing it and/or are too lazy to learn to do it properly when out on their own. Tailgating is just a combination of incompetence and impatience from people who frankly should know better.
Quite a lot of vigilante punishment occurs by the looks of these clips at least. Often way more dangerous by the looks of it. None of them is right, but the vigilantes are worse surely.
@@jakerockznoodles I think another thing is that one of the most common views of 'motorways' that British drivers get is Americans in films and TV, driving on their Interstates or other multi-lane highways, where to a much larger extent, drivers will pick a lane and stay in it. Even in British productions, the subjects seem to lack proper lane discipline. Although I learnt in the UK, I was well equipped for driving in the States just a few year later, in the Seattle area. All because I'd watched a lot of TV.
#9 that junction looks a disaster for larger vehicles. Impossible to get the cab into the position where you can see what's coming from the left. #15 I was looking for something else, as the car merging in from the right was just too blindingly obvious...
1:18 the white suv could have just gone around the roundabout again, but is causing a scene forcing itself to hit the pole endangering the user behind them.
3:13 Me and my Dad have emerged from this junction before, it's on the Woodhead Pass. It's definitely a lot worse than it first looks, it's a bit of an infamous junction and it's made even worse when weather sets in. I think there probably need to be stop signs here.
I thought it was up that way - Snake Pass or similar, although Snake Pass is generally mountainous, that one looked a bit more open (I have only gone over it in the dark, so what do I know).
8:00 people never maintain their trailers. The wheel nuts should be checked at least once a year. The wheel bearings are very susceptible to failure if you’re carrying heavy loads so need inspected regularly too.
Clip 26 - I think you're right. The dab of the brakes and the position the car went to would have been signals for me that they were going to do something sketchy. However, you can't account for stupidity. The car obviously didn't look in their mirrors or saw the cammer slow down and assumed.
Thanks for the video! Putting on my pedantic hat, the 'tombs' van isn't ironic, it would be if it was a health supplement company or something that promoted life.
#19 - after the poor emerge from the mini-cab, did anybody else spot the really poor overtake (& close pass) of the cyclist on the outside of the bend? Absolutely no need. #20 - whilst I agree with Ashley's view that the cyclist should take a primary position, not everyone on a bike has the confidence to do that. In fact it can be a trigger to some drivers who see it as a deliberate challenge to their vehicle's progress. I can understand why some cyclists chose not to ride out in the primary position. However I do disagree with Ashley's admonishing the cyclist for his reaction. Yes, the driver of the red car did *attempt* to give the cyclist as much room as he could - but quite frankly, there wasn't enough room to pass at all. Regardless of whether the cyclist was riding in the primary position or not, no driver of a motor vehicle should be attempting to overtake a cyclist in that narrow single lane. Poor driving imho - drop back, and wait for the roadworks to end.
Re: Clip 20. That's why I keep trying to push the message to motorists that Primary is required sometimes and is normal. Some cyclists don't help to tell the story correctly of what they are doing though. More education is needed. If you agree with the cyclists reaction though you are also a part of the problem!
@@ashley_neal hmm. I don't agree with the cyclist's reaction, but I can understand his anger as he just got close-passed twice in succession. My point really is that you are taking issue in your commentary with the reaction, and him not taking the primary position, whilst ignoring the behaviour of the two drivers who *chose* to overtake when there clearly wasn't enough room. Your usual message is that everyone should make decisions to make any given situation better. Clearly the cyclist could have done better, which you highlight, but the drivers could also have made better decisions. FWIW, I'm a driver not a cyclist, and I wouldn't have tried to overtake a cyclist in that situation.
I wouldn't have passed the cyclist either, and that is why there was some balance with the following clip with the truck overtaking the cyclist. I even link the 2 clips by using the work "and" to join the commentary. Every category of road user will get called out on my channel in a balanced way, and just because I mention something about the cyclist in a particular clip doesn't mean there were no faults with outer road users. I might just decide to highlight something that hasn't been mentioned before, or enough. Why can't some people accept the part they play in any given situation and prefer to point the finger at others, because at the end of the day that was the total message from the specific clip!
I saw that too - seemed almost worse than the original incident. Also, the another of the clips (lorry overtaking a cyclist?), I - although many may disagree - would, had I been the cyclist (which I often am), have used that very wide and empty footpath on the other side, looking at how the actual road was used. I live about a mile from a similar road (that eventually leads to the M1), single carriageway, 50mph, lots of lorries. I would NEVER ride my bike on the road, but use the footpath, I freely admit. Even the air from the lorries feels as though it will suck you under.
06:43 - There's not enough space for a car to pass safely, THEY SHOULD NOT PASS. Poor driving from the black and red car that did overtake. Rule 163 Highway Code: "Give vulnerable road users at least as much space as you would a car". I do get your point though - if the cyclist positioned themselves further to the right then it should reduce the likelihood of cars overtaking.
Evidently, there was enough room for them to pass safely. The problem here is clearly the cyclist's perception of what "enough room" is. If the cyclists disagrees and thinks that is not enough room, then, as Ash says, they should take the lane.
@@streetster20 Everyone was moving slow, looked pretty ok to me. Again, if the cyclists feels there's not enough space, he should do something about it rather than telegraph to everyone "please overtake me" and then be mad that they did just that.
@@CristiNeagu in Germany safely is defined as at least 2m distance. "Again, if the cyclists feels there's not enough space, he should do something about it rather than telegraph to everyone "please overtake me"" as someone who thinks he is able to educate other people, you might think about doing that. In the other case, it is just normal to drive on the side of the lane, since you are supposed to do that, and not signaling anything. It's not really your responsibility to babysit other people driving either. A good driver would never overtake at this distance, it's very dangerous
@@climatechangedoesntbargain9140 This isn't Germany. Again, as hard as it is to judge distances on a wide angle camera, it is pretty clear in this case that the vehicles were moving slowly and the cyclist was not inconvenienced. I will say it again, maybe it registers this time: *_If the cyclist thought there is not enough space, he should have taken the lane._* The fact that he was over to the side was telling everyone behind him "There is enough space. Overtake me."
One thing i have noticed over the years on clips like these is that no one seems to apologise now for being in the wrong even when it’s blatantly obvious it was their fault, instead what you get is a brake check or a one finger salute out th3 window. 😏
Quite simply lost for words at so many of these clips despite the other channels I'm subscribed to. Oh well..... always better NOT to be a part of the problem but you just can't anticipate everything. Stay safe everyone 👍
Clip 19 - Liverpool has Delta and in Brighouse there is Woods. Twins separated at birth perhaps? Was clip 20 sent in by the same person, or do you group by location, as Hartshead is only a few miles away? Cannot be coincidence?
Love the Limmy sketch. Never fails to make me cry laughing :)
Yer faither would be proud.
If they continue to drive like that they'll end up like Benny Harvey. RIP
Geez ya f****** laptap
@@Unchained_Alice miss ya big man, gone but not forgotten
You made that up yourself?
if you see someone driving as unaware as the one in the residential street, don't go alongside unless you are 100% sure they are stopped and staying stopped.
Absolutely agree. Don’t go past unless you’re certain. This looked like a drunk driving case to me and I would have stayed well, well clear.
@@David-sw2fn Drunk and/or Drugged Up to their eyeballs.!
After months of watching your videos I’ve passed my driving test today with 4 minors!! Thank you Ashley, your videos have helped me immensely and I’m sure you’ll be getting clips from me in the coming months - although most likely driving fails, I’ve still got a lot to learn :)
Congratulations Jack, happy motoring
Great job Jack 👏
Well done there.
so where did the examiner sit? also i thought they shut all the coal mines
@@ashley_neal great content as always some bad driving here some good also 👍
I never thought that i'd get a limmy/ashley crossover in my life but here we are
2:59 that was in aberdeen, Scotland I love recognising roads
Yup. 57°, -2°. Know the exact spot too.
Clip 22: So much for the comment by Clarkson that Saab drivers never ever inconvenience anyone. Joking aside, this kind of incident is fairly common. Even when it's pretty darned obvious that the cam car should have gone before the Saab...after all, it's already ahead of it as the road narrows AND it's the cam cars turn to merge anyway. Yet the Saab insists on a risky "squeeze undertake" just to get ahead one car...and then slows down! I will never understand this kind of behavior. In some countries, I believe it's actually illegal to break the natural order of a zipper merge. Illegal or not, it's pretty poor and inconsiderate driving,
here, Saab used the slogan "find your own road" for a while. which was ironic, because that's what people yelled at Saab drivers when they did stuff like that.
@@ibs5080 i think i remember talking about your dual residency on another ashley comment section.
I've had and seen many an occasion like this where the blindingly obvious escapes the attention of the obviously blind - and bloodyminded. It's similar to the move by the cammer in clip 15. Surely, there is no amount of hurry that doesn't allow you to let the natural order of things resolve before making your way past them.
Someone behind me leant on the horn at me because he wanted to merge in front of me, even though he was behind me the whole time? Not sure what he expected me to do... slam on my brakes and let his majesty past rather than driving normally along the road? I don't know why merging is so difficult, if someone is in front of you give them space to merge, too difficult for some...
@@acarguy3773 100% spot on!
Clip 20, 6:44+ You're right, Ashley, primary position would have given a much better position. Perhaps the video would then be about the impatience of a driver honking the cyclist out of the way because they have never learned that cyclists have equal status on the roads. Looking at the length of the roadworks, it would be a very confidant cyclist who would have held primary for that distance.
However, not doing so does not absolve the passing drivers of their responsibility. At present, the HC says give as much room as you would when passing a car. That doesn't mean the same gap, it means the same amount of road space. Pause at 7'00", and you can clearly see a car would not fit between the cones and the passing car. Under the rules currently before Parliament, the distance between them should be 1.5m (up to 30mph). the decision to overtake the cyclist is the driver's not the cyclist's, and by any measure, the driver should not have taken it.
So, the cyclist would have improved the situation by taking primary position, but he is not required to and it is therefore not a fault. The two cars that pass did so without leaving sufficient space. You said they left as much space as they could. If that is not enough, then the pass should be avoided. That is a fault.
As for the reaction... the cyclist's safety was put at risk; he displayed a response. The two matters are not comparable.
If we want to learn form this clip, the real learning is that drivers of 1-2 tonne vehicles have a considerable responsibility and, in this instance, the greater duty of care (as the emerging HC reinforces more specifically), to manage their driving more safely than was evident here. The cyclist could do with some Bikeability/NSCT training to build confidence in managing the expectations and actions of those behind him. The two are not equivalent.
The rule you quote from the HC about leaving as much room as passing a car is misunderstood (from yourself also), so the updates due soon are a positive upgrade. Your disagreement with my analysis of the gesture is disappointing. Many motorists on a daily basis do things that put me and my pupils at danger, does that mean I should react in the same way? I can still die in a car you know, or does that not matter as I have more protection?
@@ashley_neal I'm curious to know why you think my understanding of Rule 163 is incorrect. My position (one which is widely held in policy, cycling advocacy and policing circles), is based on the guidance to overtaking motorists to leave "as much room as you would when overtaking a car".
For those of us who work in policy, we have spent a long time trying to educate people that "room" is the amount of space available to the motorcyclist, cyclist or horse rider, not the gap between them and the passing car - _that_ is the mistake people make. This is helpfully demonstrated in the diagram accompanying the rule, which shows the driver moving into the next lane (alongside the cyclist who is in secondary position, not even primary). The emerging wording switches to the gap between, and is probably more helpful in that it specifies a distance for up to 30mph (but unfortunately drops the recommended 2m for >30).
You say that many motorists do things that put you and your pupils in danger. We both drive; we both cycle. Do you really think the level of danger is routinely the same? I'm disappointed when people imply a false equivalence like this. But if you were put in immediate danger to the same degree of harm, I would not be surprised at anybody's reaction containing some degree of Anglo Saxon.
I'm not condoning the gesture; but I'm not going to criticise his freedom of expression. Does that give away his attitude? Perhaps, but if he felt his life was put in danger without the aid of a metal frame and airbags to protect him, a reaction like that is not so hard to sympathise with. My response to the criticism is: let him. If you're focusing on the reaction to the situation and not the situation (or treating it as if it betrays his attitude all along), you are focusing on the wrong target and blaming the victim.
To bring this back to the players:
- The cyclist had options (if he was aware of them): ride primary; ride where he was; or even, perhaps, to ride in the coned-off area. According to your video, we agree that primary would have rendered him in better position for visibility and to secure road space to assert his view that it was not safe to overtake. But not everybody has the confidence that it takes to adopt that position, especially given the road layout. He may previously have experienced hostility from motorists who knew no better. I would have taken a practical approach to somebody's decision to cycle in the coned off area - probably illegal, and exposing himself to the dangers of a roadworks area, but an area where work had clearly not significantly begun, so benign with caution. In secondary, as ridden, he is still entitled to the same duty of care that a motorist on any single lane road is required to give.
- A careful driver would have recognised that it was not possible to pass in accordance with the instructions and diagram in the Highway Code, and would have waited the few extra seconds. They would have been Jo[h]n-like in their patience and taken pride in shepherding the cyclist safely to the other end. Two drivers chose to pass. That is where the criticism should lie, because the cyclist didn't actually do anything wrong.
- The supervisor of the roadworks also had a duty of care under the (legally binding) Safety at Street Works and Road Works to consider how their works have changed the safety for vulnerable road users. Perhaps more consideration should have been given in advance of any of these road users chancing upon the area.
@@ashley_neal ouch! Come on Ashley, you know the risk of dying as a cyclist is *way* higher than as a driver/passenger in a vehicle. What a ridiculous false equivalence claim to make. As a driving instructor I would expect you have to have a better grasp of physics, and the inherent mismatch in kinetic energies between a 1-2 ton vehicle and a person on a bicycle. Close passes like this cause cyclists to feel physically threatened. They are in immediate danger, and the adrenalin-fuelled response is only natural. What may happen occasionally to you and your pupils in vehicles happens to cyclists every single day.
I think as a cyclist I would have been on the other side of the cones.
Close passes can be annoying, but the real issue is with passes that are fast and close.
If you're going to cycle hunched into the side of the road, don't get angry when drivers take the hint and overtake you.
@GMBasix I will do a video on Rule 163 as many people think that it means you need to give the width of the car which is incorrect. I would overtake a car with less room if it and I were travelling slowly, the faster the speed the more space it requires. This is where the highway code is vague and wrong as it's down to interpretation. Your point about having experience previous hostility is no argument to act in that way for every time in the future. I have already explained to @Simon Cope on his post but there are many times in my videos where I point out deficiencies in road use from all different categories of road user, this does not mean they are the only problem in the clip, it may mean that the points I wish to make has not been covered in enough detail in the past.
I would like you to reflect on your point about "his life was put in danger" truthfully tell me if you really believe that that was the case in this clip? Personally if motorist took even that amount of care (although I wouldn't have passed until the roadworks had finished) cyclists would be less danger than they are generally. You understand full well my dislike for how a percentage of motorists treat cyclists, but when I suggest something that a cyclist could do better many in the cohort take to their keypads. Do you truly believe in your statement saying the cyclist didn't actually do anything wrong? Was his reaction Jon C like? The message from the clip was "too many people want to point fingers rather than taking responsibility for their own actions" I see this is strong in many people still. @Simon Cope I still cycle even though it's occasionally but I teach many days a week so I can make that comparison between driving lessons and cycling, can you? Or are you assuming?
Loved the clip from Limmy's Show, Ashley. I think about it every time you show a wrong way driver
ha same, it was starting to go through my head, then magically appeared on the video!
Ooh, I know clip #9 (3:15) that junction is absolutely lethal. Not only is it tucked away behind the corner, but it’s much sharper than the camera gives credit to. Cars emerging the other way generally have to use the oncoming lane to get round
It's horrific in rush hour. When I was learning to drive with my dad, I had to emerge and turn left in a Rover 45.
It's several years since I used that junction but once driven, never forgotten. As I recall it was a matter of a deep breath, a bit of preemptive swearing, then go for it.
@@matthewwinn979 I share your technique! 🤣 It's definitely easier in my tiny C1, but I still cross my fingers on the approach.
@Peter L oh without a doubt. I wasn’t intending to excuse the actions of either driver, certainly not the cammer
@Peter L isn’t that one traffic lighted?
Ah ash, I always have a smile on my face when I see these type of clips. It's like some of the cammers are thinking "ill send my clips to Ashley, he will tell them off and say that I'm an amazing driver.
It's like family fortunes when they got and an answer wrong. They say it so confidently. Then, "Our Ashley Neil says"? X X X🤣🤣🤣
Keep them coming mate
3:10 #9 I feel that the cammer didn't help the situation, you could see the small car was in imminent danger of oncoming vehicles, yet they continue to accelerate and beep the horn, rather than slowing down to make it easier for them
Exactly, the cammer could have easily helped this situation and made it smooth. Instead they just put that small car in so much more unnecessary danger
My thought exactly. It's the old one about sorting out other people's problems - and that one was nasty.
100%, the clip could have easily ended up in a nice driving comp rather than a fail
Unexpected Limmy - brilliant
Funniest video yet, the Limmy meme and the “Byeeeee” had me in stitches man 🤣
The quote from Limmy's show got me! Spot on!
I was not expecting to see a Limmy clip on one of your videos but it has made my day, thank you!
3:37
Mans gone and built himself a shed on top of his ute
top bloke
clip #18 (5:33) was like watching from the perspective of a mother who is watching their kid and knows the kid's about to do something dangerous but isn't sure how and when. I honestly have no idea what that driver was trying to achieve.
07:10 I agree with you that the cars are giving him space. But let's face it, you'd fail your test for passing him in this situation. You'd be told that you need to 'stay well back' and 'take extra care' for the cyclist.
Why are people incapable of time stamping an appropriate time? Everyone always stamps the end of the clip...
@@mikewilton4872 I've made that mistake myself on the odd occasion when I'm not paying attention.
Yup the roadworks finished a few seconds up the road. The driver gained no time by the overtake. Read the road ahead.
Hahaha, I just sang the Limmy "Wrong way down a one way street" song at 5:13, just before it came on hahaha
3:20 is on the woodhead pass where home moss meets it, it’s an awful junction
3:39 When I was in Lahore on British Council business I encountered much more interesting driving than that. The University department was on the Grand Trunk Road (now, sadly, screwed up by a chinese elevated railway). It was common to see vehicles weaving in and out to avoid the holy cattle crossing the road. The informal taxi system was of interest too: at traffic lights people would lie on the bonnet of a stationary car, taking a ride to the next lights where they would slide off and walk on they way.
Ah, the A628/A6204 junction there at 3:20 or so. It’s an awful junction to get out of if it’s busy.
If you’re very lucky you can get a gauge on the traffic as you approach the junction and spot any possible gaps, because not only is it an extremely tight angle, the road bends down and round a hill to the left so visibility at the give way line is abysmal. That was a spectacularly poor pull out though, and I’ve seen some horrors there over the years!
Hats off to the driver who managed to avoid the guy on the bike on the roundabout! Honestly can not believe what just saw!!
At 3:17 that junction is near me and having to emerge is a bit of a nightmare. The view to the left is pretty much completely obscured and the view to the right is poor. Drivers panic because they assume traffic approaching unseen from the left will be traveling at 50mph, this isn't the case as before the junction there is an S bend that slows traffic down considerably. Drivers in their panic assume they need to use speed to lessen their exposure to the danger of the emerge, whereas they do have time to creep when the road is clear to their right.
In the video, the dash cam driver passes what looks like a lay-by, this was the original junction that was moved to a "safer" location.
The ‘swerve tell- off’ for the undertaker is shocking - why reprimand a dangerous action with an even more dangerous one?
Ashley must get a lot of clips sent in because I drive so many miles and very rarely do I see any driving as bad as in these clips.
It was a ridiculous thing to do that could have had very serious consequences had they hit the undertaker and caused an accident which, at that speed, could have been lethal. What defence would they use in court if they'd killed the other driver? The fact they remained in the right lane afterwards suggests they thought they'd done nothing wrong which is rather scary.
Not sure it was intentional - the people carrier driver I think was intending to take that exit and they were struggling with lane positioning and timing/judging their speed - I'd put money on them being under the influence or otherwise incapacitated and shouldn't have been driving.
Ah, 2:13 onwards. It's been a while since I was last on York Road in Leeds, but it's nice to see some things never change. - If you drive slowly enough, you can pick up parts for most cars on that road, they're just scattered along the gutter.
I love how #17 was so transparently dumb it wasn't even deserving of any narration.
For #18 (from about 6:03) I'm really not sure why the cammer was tagging right behind like that. Did he think they were pulling over to the right? If so, why not just hang back a little and then pass when they'd stopped? I was just a little perplexed by that behaviour.
I suspect #18 was going to reverse into a drive of one of the houses on the left, but got spooked by the close proximity of the car behind and just kept driving in a state of mild panic.
@@MrSonicAdvance I've just got my licence and have yet to try reverse parking into my driveway, I've gone front in each time. I'm sure the first time I do it I'll look a little like clip #18, although I like to think I'm not quite that uncoordinated and erratic...
5:16 that's one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard
5.20 loving the use of the Limmy clip! Yer Fether would be proud, Ash.
5:53 must be drunk
Some interesting clips - number 9 (3:10) for me first instinct was the cammer could have slowed down earlier to fix the problem, but on second viewing hard to tell if could have slowed any after the emerge was visible- still quite scary with the oncoming lorry!
Number 19 (6:30) I got the impression the two cars were more concerned with being in front each other than checking the road was clear, fortunately they both spotted the cyclist in time (although I suspect it was in fact an illegal moped judging by the speed uphill without pedalling)
Number 20 absolutely agree. People often say to me that drivers are getting worse around cyclists, but my experience seems to be the opposite. I think this might be due to how my road position is constantly improving rather than driving standards getting better- if you know where to position yourself in the lane the number of close passes goes down massively. (For example there's a pinch point at a pedestrian island on my commute, years ago I got a couple of bad passes there but now I shoulder check (well in advance, several times), find my gap, signal, take primary and virtually never have an issue). The issue though is that takes an enormous amount of confidence to do, as doing the safer thing feels riskier, and a lot of painted bike lanes suggest that the road position and passing distance above are correct.
However 2 out of 2 motorists couldn't be bothered to wait 10 seconds before overtaking safely.
I know the junction in clip 9 very well. It's possibly the single most dangerous one I know. Joining a busy A road at an angle with very poor sight lines in both directions. Why it hasn't been redesigned is something of a mystery.
3:24 the radio presenter has the right commentary for that emerge!
8:20 I think where a major road such as a motorway divides into different directions, it is never a good place to pass or overtake as people often make a late decision.
Wise. Especially never get on the inside of someone who still has room to make a kamikaze lunge for an exit.
Not surprised at the clip at 2:20... I know that area of Leeds well and stolen vehicles are pretty damn common.
Was the driver of the Merc at 5:51 drunk? 6:20 the taxi was a non event, I would not have worried about it.
Possibly and agreed!
I might have considered making a mental note of the numberplate, parking up and informing the police on that one. Driving that erratically indicates at least some sort of drink or drug driving and I would rather it be a false alarm than have to read about a fatality in the papers the next day.
4:54 is an interesting one. If I was in that situation I'd have held back just in case they did exactly what they did. I never want to join a road or a motorway parallel to another car. To me, the risk of them changing lanes and hitting me is too high.
I suppose it’s technically an undertake too at that point, which unfortunately means it’s even less likely the other vehicle will be watching out. I think it’s solid advice to hold back in this situation. I’d do exactly the same.
That Limmy sketch had be in stitches 🤣
Wasn't the Jag catching up with traffic further up the road? If so does it still count as lane hogging?
Regarding clip #20: This is something of a common mistake I see even experienced cyclists make - somehow, they seem to be more worried about people coming from behind (whom they can do absolutely nothing about) than the space to their sides (which they can and should control). That doesn't exactly make the overtake a good one (I'd hazard a guess that there just wasn't enough space for an overtake to begin with, though it's hard to tell for certain from the video alone) but the reaction by the cyclist wasn't at all helpful either - it doesn't look like they even realized they had a major part in this incident.
If the cyclist was knocked off would the cyclist be partly at fault or would the motorist carry the can? I suspect 100% motorist and careless driving charge
@@leetori1 I'm not sure about Britain, but at least here in Germany, cyclists are required to keep at least 70cm from the side line or 1m from parked cars. More than that isn't a problem as long as it doesn't impede traffic flow, which wouldn't be the case if there isn't enough space for an overtake anyway. Failing to maintain proper space generally is enough to make the courts consider you partly at fault. However, on the drivers side, starting an overtake without enough room to finish it safely is likely to be considered reckless driving. Ultimately, the courts would likely decide that the majority of the fault (but not all of it) lies with the driver, though precise results will vary.
I have to agree with Ashley 100% though, the driving was signalling for overtaking. I see it in general that cyclists behave as though they are part of parallel traffic to the vehicle traffic, when in reality they are part of it, having to follow the same rules (and courtesies). Going into short gaps (like a driveway between parked cars) is often asking for trouble, and would imply that you will wait until the car is past. Also remember that doing this will reduce how visible you are (and don't get me starting on appalling light and reflector use by almost all cyclists).
@@PauldeVrieze I didn't say anything contradictory to that, though - I just suspect the issue with many cyclists is at least in part fear rather than deliberate behavior (my evidence for that is extensive but completely anecdotal - I get to talk to a lot of people as a representative of a local cyclists association). The cyclist didn't look like they were even maintaining 70cm from the roadside. Add to that the driver failing to maintain 1.5m safety distance (this is inner-city traffic, right?) to the cyclist and you've got exactly the situation we see in the clip. To be fair though, I've seen (and experienced) far worse versions of this - which in my book makes the cyclists reaction all the more difficult to justify.
Yes you probably should ride in the middle there.
Ultimately it is a balance between two risks. If you ride right next to the edge, people will make close passes. If you ride in the middle, you may end up with someone driving his car literally 1 metre behind you. You’re much more vulnerable to traffic aggression on a bicycle. The clip has no sound, it is possible someone was leaning on the horn.
That car park at 2:50 looks like the Lowry outlet in Salford, and it is a complete arse to navigate around tbf
16:20 i live near there and its worrying how bad people drive round me 😂
1:16 pretty they’ve realised at the last second that’s the exit they need to take, but instead of going round again and moving into the outside lane, they do the lazy thing and cut across.
7:00 not the miku sticker 😭😭😂😂
4:54 yeah could see that coming a mile off. But why? I cannot put my finger on it.
He started turning at the exact same time he put on indicator.
There was good advice on this channel before about staying staggered if possible. Although it is natural to do that, I have found it useful it being an explicit thing to try to do.
Clip1: I know people can be fed up with lane hogging (and retributive action is not only bad form, but highly dangerous), but before even grumbling to oneself, at least consider whether they had the opportunity to move back safely, and sufficient space is given so they neither need to tailgate nor cut in, nor a combination of both, and they are not providing space for joining traffic from a slip-road. So the Jaguar driver is expecting the lane 3 drivers to move immediately back to lane 2, which would be another major bugbear of drivers: namely, cutting-in. Then proceeds to tell them off by doing just that!
Don't get me wrong, I loathe lane hogging, but the best examples I'm sure we're all familiar with: they're in lane 3 like they're policing the speed limit, and there's plenty of space to move back to lane 2, or from lane 2 to lane 1, but they just don't. I'm not crowding them, so they've got the space, and they're not in lane 2 to provide space for vehicles from a joining slip road. But there they still sit.
I once gotten told off after flashing a lane 3 hogger in a 4-lane motorway. He complied and moved over to the lane 2, which was free, lane 1 was busy though. He then followed me, flashed his lights, overtook showing the 1-finger-salute. His excuse? Perhaps he wanted to keep lane 2 free in case someone from lane 1 would come out. Still...
If someone is hogging in lane 3 how would they be policing the speed limit?
@@saundersdachicken6197 by sitting in lane 3 they clearly set the maximum speed that cars behind them can go. Not quite sure how you missed that...
@@alasdairduncan3 The speed limit is 70mph. Hogger in lane 3 may show 70mph on his clock but his true speed my be 65 mph. If the hogger is doing 60mph in lane 3 he can be undertaken by another car doing 70mph, so he's not policing the limit.
@@alasdairduncan3 There is behind and there is directly behind. I'm in lane 2 and there's a car in front of me in lane 3 I can pass it on its left within the speed limit.
The junction at 4:50 is a regular journey of mine on the South Wales borders. It needs a little bit of care for sure.
7:15 - LOL as a biker myself, I would have totally used the closed lane.
Clip 7: The car park incident. Although in no way excusing the other car, I'm trying to determine whether it was on route to exiting the car park or taking a short cut across a few empty spaces to make it easier to line itself up with another intended space further ahead of it. Notice how it's wheels are still pointing relatively straight. Still, should not have encroached on the cam cars' path, though I also wonder if the cam car signalled it was turning left down that laneway. I myself have sometimes taken a "short cut" across other car park spaces just to make it easier to get into some other space in front of me and avoid having to steer at close quarters. Especially if there are concrete pillars or other parked cars involved. Difference is, if I am going to carry out a shortcut manouvre of any kind in a car park, I make sure there are no other road users around that I might either inconvenience or confuse. Otherwise, I follow the official laneway paths and arrows.
Yes I thought this too. But the whole thing just done too quickly and with too little consideration for their surroundings.
5:20 Honest mistakes happen, particularly with out-of-area drivers. Stay alert and maintain a margin for unexpected occurences. You are not to blame because if you are exercising due caution and an impatient driver executes an unsafe overtake.
5:13 STAR!
Best one yet! 😂
I'd invented a motor vehicle without indicators, stopped without notice, and was able to be driven with no consideration to others. It was rejected when I tried to register it as Private Hire already had the rights
“Wrong way down a one way street…..” 🤣 epic.
Clip 9 road junction I know well and although it is a bad one getting a better angle (straighter) helps no end along with good observation and taking your time, then there rarely is a problem for me.
Speaking from experience as a learner biker, and having just done a few months of driving lessons, the CBT course is just not enough to prepare people for the roads, you learn how to use the bike, but as for road safty, you just can't pick it up in one day.
I have learnt so much in my year of riding, and due to inexperience I've also made a few mistakes, even crashed, it's only now that I feel I understand the roads properly, but I think a few more days of bassic training would have been a massive help
At 3:57, is that two Peugeot 405s??
3:10 one of the top reasons to love the roads in UK. Why is there a double line? I hate such places.
8:42 I can just imagine the satnav screaming "turn around! turn around!"
Maybe use the junction
That scenery in clip 24 though 👌🏻
Good ol’ limmy! As for the cyclist clip, that’s exactly why I prefer to work around traffic rather than have traffic work around me, I’d have either stuck right out as you suggested, or found a footpath and walk it or ride at a walking pace to where the road opens up again
I personally would've ridden on the other side of the cones at a slower pace. Maybe not 100% correct, but there was a lot of space and visibility, so it seems like the safest option to me
@@Timooooooooooooooo I've done that before when there are no workmen about (as they will not expect cyclists to be there and you may collide). Higher risk of punctures though, but usually ok.
Oh I hate to correct your English, but "a wheel's just came off" at 8:00 rubbed me the wrong way :D . It's either "a wheel's just come off" or "a wheel just came off".
Love a bit of limmy
3:31 wow it's been a while since I've seen a Kia Pride sedan.
Clip 9 is a junction where you need to be very good at flooring it and getting on your way. I commute to Huddersfield this way everyday and i still brick it every night when having to pull out in peak traffic
Glad to see a Limmy clip out of nowhere 👍
Clip 19, not a mention of the driver overtaking the bike on the bend right at the end?
I’m sorry but All I can think about from that first clip is Jeremy Clarkson telling everyone it’s okay because he’s got a JAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
Last week I was stood beside a one way street, a car parked on the left hand side pulled out of its spot, did a U-turn to park facing the wrong way on the other side of the road about 20 meters further down the road. Sometimes you just have to wonder what is going on in the heads of some drivers.
Great video as always, you can never read into things to much 😂👍
Just an observation, but it would help the majority of these drivers if they would just drive on the right side of the road. If you check the drivers hand book it clearly states to, drive on the right hand side of the road. So, without question, if you drive on the left, your bound to have porblems.
Been driving that way for 62 years and not one issue. : - }
Loving those clips from Iran that feature old Peugeot 405s.
Hahahahaha I have been to Iran. They say, look left and right to cross the road, and then look once more for the guy reversing the wrong way 🤣
Clip 9: emerging that junction is awful during the day time - you can see the headlights at night making it so much easier. You cannot see left round that corner at all, just have to pray there are no cars coming, always a twitchy bum moment.
The only surprise about clip 15 is that it’s the first time I’ve seen a clip of the Coldra on there! That junction can be pretty bad for things like that. There’s also a left turn slip from the opposite M4 off slip too which has exactly the same problem
That cyclist was indeed partly at fault for leaving the gap. The cars squeezing past too close for comfort were definitely more at fault though.
Aye, and the irony is that many drivers who think there is space to pass get angry when cyclists legit take the primary pos. They the cyclist as taking the piss - and pulling the finger at them. When the poor cyclist is just looking after their own safety.
Not sure I agree... the cyclist leaving space can be interpreted as invitation to pass, which can pressure the driver to do so. Therefore, if assigning fault in this scenario, the cyclist is at least equally responsible.
Question for you, what was wrong with the way the tipper lorry emerged from the roundabout? It was taking the 12 O clock exit so it was OK for him to be on the left lane, OK the roundabout was not complitly clear but there was a large gap, I am not sure of the problem?
Also the Jag, it was catching up with traffic and holding no one up behind him!
Clip 14: I genuinely let out a verbal gasp. I don't want to think about of the injuries that learning motor bike would of got, Unfortunately I can take a good educated guess!
Clip 18: That's not little awareness, that's impaired awareness. That's driving under the influence of drink, drugs, or a hypoglycaemic diabetic... If it is the latter then they do help sooner rather than later.
Lane hogging and tailgating seems to still be very prevalent on uk roads. Yet seems to continue being unpublished.
I genuinely think a big problem with lane hogging is lack of education during learning. People often don't learn to use multilane carriageways much (if at all), and many instructors don't teach their students how to to use overtaking lanes when they are on them. So a lot of people just wing it and/or are too lazy to learn to do it properly when out on their own.
Tailgating is just a combination of incompetence and impatience from people who frankly should know better.
Quite a lot of vigilante punishment occurs by the looks of these clips at least. Often way more dangerous by the looks of it. None of them is right, but the vigilantes are worse surely.
8:19 The hogger was the one who made the illegal manoeuvre and not the one undertaking.
@@jakerockznoodles I think another thing is that one of the most common views of 'motorways' that British drivers get is Americans in films and TV, driving on their Interstates or other multi-lane highways, where to a much larger extent, drivers will pick a lane and stay in it. Even in British productions, the subjects seem to lack proper lane discipline. Although I learnt in the UK, I was well equipped for driving in the States just a few year later, in the Seattle area. All because I'd watched a lot of TV.
#9 that junction looks a disaster for larger vehicles. Impossible to get the cab into the position where you can see what's coming from the left.
#15 I was looking for something else, as the car merging in from the right was just too blindingly obvious...
Larger vehicles are a complete no-go up that road. It's a steep, narrow, twisty country lane.
CTFU at the bye!!! At 8:21
Was very confused by the colour of grass at 0:59 then I looked at that date and remembered that glorious summer 🥵
2:52 I cant quite believe they crashed into that car and then crashed into them again a second time!
4:20 I love a bit of irony.
6:58 that car has a Miku vinyl in the window, he's my fuckin' SOULMATE, what a King.
1:18 the white suv could have just gone around the roundabout again, but is causing a scene forcing itself to hit the pole endangering the user behind them.
3:13 Me and my Dad have emerged from this junction before, it's on the Woodhead Pass. It's definitely a lot worse than it first looks, it's a bit of an infamous junction and it's made even worse when weather sets in. I think there probably need to be stop signs here.
I thought it was up that way - Snake Pass or similar, although Snake Pass is generally mountainous, that one looked a bit more open (I have only gone over it in the dark, so what do I know).
Can we point out the extremely dangerous overtake by the Brown yaris at 6:38? Round a corner with traffic coming the other way? Terrible.
8:00 people never maintain their trailers. The wheel nuts should be checked at least once a year. The wheel bearings are very susceptible to failure if you’re carrying heavy loads so need inspected regularly too.
You've got someone who lives near me clearly sending videos in... might just think about my driving.
Clip 26 - I think you're right. The dab of the brakes and the position the car went to would have been signals for me that they were going to do something sketchy. However, you can't account for stupidity. The car obviously didn't look in their mirrors or saw the cammer slow down and assumed.
3:40 I'm sorry but that's just hilarious. rofl
Thanks for the video! Putting on my pedantic hat, the 'tombs' van isn't ironic, it would be if it was a health supplement company or something that promoted life.
3:20 surely that has to be a left turn only from that junction?
It’s a fatality waiting to happen!
#19 - after the poor emerge from the mini-cab, did anybody else spot the really poor overtake (& close pass) of the cyclist on the outside of the bend? Absolutely no need.
#20 - whilst I agree with Ashley's view that the cyclist should take a primary position, not everyone on a bike has the confidence to do that. In fact it can be a trigger to some drivers who see it as a deliberate challenge to their vehicle's progress. I can understand why some cyclists chose not to ride out in the primary position. However I do disagree with Ashley's admonishing the cyclist for his reaction. Yes, the driver of the red car did *attempt* to give the cyclist as much room as he could - but quite frankly, there wasn't enough room to pass at all. Regardless of whether the cyclist was riding in the primary position or not, no driver of a motor vehicle should be attempting to overtake a cyclist in that narrow single lane. Poor driving imho - drop back, and wait for the roadworks to end.
Re: Clip 20. That's why I keep trying to push the message to motorists that Primary is required sometimes and is normal. Some cyclists don't help to tell the story correctly of what they are doing though. More education is needed. If you agree with the cyclists reaction though you are also a part of the problem!
@@ashley_neal hmm. I don't agree with the cyclist's reaction, but I can understand his anger as he just got close-passed twice in succession. My point really is that you are taking issue in your commentary with the reaction, and him not taking the primary position, whilst ignoring the behaviour of the two drivers who *chose* to overtake when there clearly wasn't enough room. Your usual message is that everyone should make decisions to make any given situation better. Clearly the cyclist could have done better, which you highlight, but the drivers could also have made better decisions. FWIW, I'm a driver not a cyclist, and I wouldn't have tried to overtake a cyclist in that situation.
I wouldn't have passed the cyclist either, and that is why there was some balance with the following clip with the truck overtaking the cyclist. I even link the 2 clips by using the work "and" to join the commentary. Every category of road user will get called out on my channel in a balanced way, and just because I mention something about the cyclist in a particular clip doesn't mean there were no faults with outer road users. I might just decide to highlight something that hasn't been mentioned before, or enough. Why can't some people accept the part they play in any given situation and prefer to point the finger at others, because at the end of the day that was the total message from the specific clip!
@@simonjcope technically there was enough space because the cyclist didn't get hit 😉
I saw that too - seemed almost worse than the original incident. Also, the another of the clips (lorry overtaking a cyclist?), I - although many may disagree - would, had I been the cyclist (which I often am), have used that very wide and empty footpath on the other side, looking at how the actual road was used. I live about a mile from a similar road (that eventually leads to the M1), single carriageway, 50mph, lots of lorries. I would NEVER ride my bike on the road, but use the footpath, I freely admit. Even the air from the lorries feels as though it will suck you under.
06:43 - There's not enough space for a car to pass safely, THEY SHOULD NOT PASS. Poor driving from the black and red car that did overtake.
Rule 163 Highway Code: "Give vulnerable road users at least as much space as you would a car".
I do get your point though - if the cyclist positioned themselves further to the right then it should reduce the likelihood of cars overtaking.
Evidently, there was enough room for them to pass safely. The problem here is clearly the cyclist's perception of what "enough room" is. If the cyclists disagrees and thinks that is not enough room, then, as Ash says, they should take the lane.
@@CristiNeagu "there was enough room for them to pass", not safely though.
@@streetster20 Everyone was moving slow, looked pretty ok to me. Again, if the cyclists feels there's not enough space, he should do something about it rather than telegraph to everyone "please overtake me" and then be mad that they did just that.
@@CristiNeagu in Germany safely is defined as at least 2m distance.
"Again, if the cyclists feels there's not enough space, he should do something about it rather than telegraph to everyone "please overtake me""
as someone who thinks he is able to educate other people, you might think about doing that.
In the other case, it is just normal to drive on the side of the lane, since you are supposed to do that, and not signaling anything.
It's not really your responsibility to babysit other people driving either.
A good driver would never overtake at this distance, it's very dangerous
@@climatechangedoesntbargain9140 This isn't Germany. Again, as hard as it is to judge distances on a wide angle camera, it is pretty clear in this case that the vehicles were moving slowly and the cyclist was not inconvenienced. I will say it again, maybe it registers this time: *_If the cyclist thought there is not enough space, he should have taken the lane._* The fact that he was over to the side was telling everyone behind him "There is enough space. Overtake me."
One thing i have noticed over the years on clips like these is that no one seems to apologise now for being in the wrong even when it’s blatantly obvious it was their fault, instead what you get is a brake check or a one finger salute out th3 window. 😏
Quite simply lost for words at so many of these clips despite the other channels I'm subscribed to.
Oh well..... always better NOT to be a part of the problem but you just can't anticipate everything.
Stay safe everyone 👍
Clip 19 - Liverpool has Delta and in Brighouse there is Woods. Twins separated at birth perhaps? Was clip 20 sent in by the same person, or do you group by location, as Hartshead is only a few miles away? Cannot be coincidence?
One despairs at the way some people drive; what were they thinking? The answer is "they weren't", they can't think & drive at the same time.
@8:45 Did I leave the oven on?
@8:58 Yep, I did. Excuse me everyone.