One thing that helped me recently is to play games with a lot of proximity chat and voice chat on because it humanizes the people your interacting with. Video games teach a lot of habits early on in PVE games to make you treat the enemy like an ai rather than a human. If this is ingrained in you like it is for me, then it makes reading someone much harder. When you can get a feel and sense for that when your fighting people in ranked who dont talk, then it helps a lot
In my opinion, the key piece of advice for fighting games is that if you begin to lose matches or feel frustrated, it's best to step away from the game and return with a clear head.
True, I definitely learnt watching Wong. However, I thought watching my own losses would be painful, but I learnt so much on where my specific weaknesses were and what I should work on. It's priceless, especially when you find yourself losing to the same people regularly.
@@azarel7 agree 100%. Like I mention in the video I do think it is still one of the most important things to do, but it's just not something many people enjoy doing often
@regular_blake "learnt" absolutely is a word in British UK spelling while "learned" is American English. You just learnt something new...you're welcome.
This video is so spot on. I was trying to learn Chun-Li this week, looked up Moke videos on TH-cam, and learned something new: Hazanshu can combo into cr. MP --> OD SBK --> SBK. I was so excited! Finally! A combo with decent damage that I can probably pull off myself. I hopped in the training lab, spent about an hour on it, and never once managed to make it connect online, not even in casuals 😅
A lesson I learned recently is that mistakes only exists in retrospect. when a mistake happens, the other player recognizes it as an opportunity and works to capitalize on it. theres no way you can know that what youre about to do is a mistake until you see the consequences of that decision. listen to how top players talk about the mistakes they notice from others. they break down a situation by saying things like "i can try this next time". top players play for opportunities, and the one who wins will be the one who can sieze the most opportunities and follow through on them
Watching videos of people one rank higher than you can also be a way to pick up ideas without being overwhelming, as long as you have a critical eye towards what seems actually good vs what you're less likely to get away with as you progress
That's such a smart idea! I was having exactly this train of thought a while ago, about the fact that I learn nothing from watching high level vs high level matches. Love this solution!!
An underrated way to break plateaus is to limit test, a lot of mid level players (me included) are too focused on trying to play correctly and play too passive or don’t use enough of there characters bs
I really wish there was an option to go from a match straight into my replays. I really like using the replay takeover, but I just can't stand navigating through all the menus. 😅
7:55 this is a really good interaction to touch on. One thing intermediate players don’t quite grasp is that players around their skill level or AWFUL at attacking. They need to focus on beating people around their level, and the easiest and most effective way to do it is to pick a lame character and allow the opponent to defeat themselves for you, because when they try to aggress when you move backwards they are GOING to make a mistake, guaranteed.
Nice in theory, but I've been locked at silver3 for months. Whenever I get close to silver4, I end up fighting a bunch of players who have multiple other characters at high level. I don't know if they're really smurfs, because they haven't broken to master, but they're definitely a lot more experienced and might be playing lower ranks to get over the frustration. Whenever I play against accounts with similar play time, it's way more balanced. Too bad I don't encounter those players most of the time.
I took this approach to chess being a beginner and watched hikaru play 1 min chess against noobs in order to see how he would navigate his openings. It got me up 200 elo in 3 days and I think it's a really good way to see how concepts you are learning can actually be applied at your level.
I recently got to diamond with akuma and something that helped me was watching vods of someone around my level, ranking up alongside me. The opponents they face are similar to the ones i do, so its just far more relevant for analysis. It also doesnt overwhelm me with information since its not a pro player on a smurf playing at a level im just simply not at yet. It just feels more doable lol.
i just play characters i don't know and try to learn on the fly. It helps me figure out what works, what doesn't, and quickly adapt. i won't have a flowchart and have to really think about matches. It definitely improves how I approach opponents with my main.
Honestly I’ve never thought about watching pros play lower ranks. I don’t watch people stream ever. And I rarely watch non tourney game play and I think this is a really good idea. Especially for Smurf accounts right because that means the opponent won’t know who they’re playing and get Wong factored or something.
When I finally broke my final barrier to getting good back in the sf4 days r was because I studied my own matches very tediously. And it made HUGE improvements. But this is a great idea imo.
@@holdysnausages yea great call about the last point. I think there's value in watching tournament vods of better players just playing in Pools and what not too, but then their opponent may play differently because they know they're up against someone really good.
i noticed this when recently punk played marisa on stream. im sitting somewhere around 1400 rn so his opponents were rather quickly out of my skill range but it still helped a lot to see what he was doing against certain bullshits. on that note tho: does anyone know any marisa streamers who are on smurfs sometimes?
Great advice 🙏 I also think watching someone like Justin Wong or diaphone play your character is great cuz they’ll most likely play just super solid with the basics, and you then realize you don’t need to learn every fancy combo for every specific little scenario
Yeah the best case scenario is they use your character for sure! But there's a lot to learn even if they don't as long as the character isnt insanely unique relative to yours
That’s soo funny I had the opposite problem when I was ranking up to master I was comfortable giving my opponent space soo I can punish there bs, but in masters it became a bad habit and I end up getting walked into the corner. At the end of the day it’s always been rounding out your weaknesses and strengths.
Haha you put it perfectly. It's funny how two people can be at a similar level but have completely opposite strengths and weaknesses and see the game so differently. One of the best parts of these games is how many new things there are to constantly reconsider haha
ive also been trying to get into granblue recently and am facing similar problems. And its also bothering me. Its like the game is simple and complicated at the same time. Ive been playing sf6 since launch and want to play some other fighters. But i only play a fg to get good and even tho i like Granblue alot, last few days ive been questioning whether i really wanna sink the time in like i have with sf6.
@@nunyabizwacks6711 haha yeah I know exactly what you're experiencing. The game is so simple on paper but you need to learn sooooo much for every matchup or you'll just feel like you are really playing the game yet. That being said it is super fun once you get past the knowledge checks. If you like it at all I recommend sticking it out.
@MikeyDLuffy yea i actually think the game is amazing...i guess im just frustrated. Funnily enuff i just picked up Katalina, and thought about also trying Beatrix. I started with Seox tho. For me it actually adds mental stack just the fact there are 2 ways to control. Ita hard to decide when i should use simple inputs because i do think its detrimental in this game to just disregard them, but i am more comfortable with technical inputs of course because thats what im used to, and i feel like that alone makes me use too much brain power on. And my other problem is just recognizing wtf is going on on the screen. I know that gets better with more time in, but still.
I lost to a guy in SF6 checked the replay and got curious, saw he had a loss to Phenom the Moose big player in Europe. Was hoping for something on how Phenom got the win, guy literally just got lucky and than one and done’d 😂
watching top players and your own fights is good but you have to be really knowledgeable for it to be. I know some high level players that are not capable of doing this as good as I am cuz I've spend year studying the game. Now i spend mostly my time in the training room an d only go to ranked to test something, my advice would be, find the rank were you are stronger and kn ow why you are and what you should be doing at that rank and practice it, also please practice your confirms and punishes, you wouldn't believe how far you can go by just cashing up the damage when you find the chance, practice against the dummy in different situations (from above, from below, crossing up, dashing in) and then practice your reactions against the CPU, you need to be a ble to do your punishes and confirms as muscle memory (antiairs too) I'm tired of watching people complain cuz they don't get better and they can't DP or punish for their own sake. once you know this and have this keep practicing then at least 10 minutes forever or they will fade down on you, now go to practice your setups and safe jumps and special situations, learn corner control, learn some prominent OSs, I could say there's ton of things to learn execution and reaction wise before you have the chance of questioning yourself on why you are not improving, pick one each week or 2 a nd when you start facing 8th or up places in tournaments then let yourself worry for anything else besides execution, for real, heres people that can't even consistently throw a fireball when they are nervous and don't know it.
This is a good point, it’s good to watch high level compilations to see which combos to use and basic setups. But it doesn’t show how to deal with sf6 unga bunga playstyles. I play Akuma at the moment and most top players are already at a high level with him so not sure where I could find this kind of footage
@Kara-de5cz Shows what you know. what does Akuma have to get easy pressure? The game mechanics are unga bunga. I bet you play some neutral skipping bs character and running away jumping and drive impacting like a scrub, thinking you’re good lol
@Kara-de5cz really, what do you hate about him? His low health makes risky play quite rewarding against him, jumping and DI’s take 50% health and he’s got stubby normals. I guess if you don’t have a DP his air approach would be really annoying to deal with. Who do you play?
@@mikey22355 I play Bison. I know I know, my character is kinda stupid. But yours easily shimmies and grabs me 24/7 because of his walk speed and my bad reactions. So I lose.
One thing that helped me recently is to play games with a lot of proximity chat and voice chat on because it humanizes the people your interacting with. Video games teach a lot of habits early on in PVE games to make you treat the enemy like an ai rather than a human. If this is ingrained in you like it is for me, then it makes reading someone much harder.
When you can get a feel and sense for that when your fighting people in ranked who dont talk, then it helps a lot
In my opinion, the key piece of advice for fighting games is that if you begin to lose matches or feel frustrated, it's best to step away from the game and return with a clear head.
True, I definitely learnt watching Wong. However, I thought watching my own losses would be painful, but I learnt so much on where my specific weaknesses were and what I should work on. It's priceless, especially when you find yourself losing to the same people regularly.
@@azarel7 agree 100%. Like I mention in the video I do think it is still one of the most important things to do, but it's just not something many people enjoy doing often
Learned… learnt isn’t a word you’re welcome.
@regular_blake "learnt" absolutely is a word in British UK spelling while "learned" is American English. You just learnt something new...you're welcome.
This video is so spot on. I was trying to learn Chun-Li this week, looked up Moke videos on TH-cam, and learned something new: Hazanshu can combo into cr. MP --> OD SBK --> SBK. I was so excited! Finally! A combo with decent damage that I can probably pull off myself. I hopped in the training lab, spent about an hour on it, and never once managed to make it connect online, not even in casuals 😅
A lesson I learned recently is that mistakes only exists in retrospect. when a mistake happens, the other player recognizes it as an opportunity and works to capitalize on it. theres no way you can know that what youre about to do is a mistake until you see the consequences of that decision.
listen to how top players talk about the mistakes they notice from others. they break down a situation by saying things like "i can try this next time". top players play for opportunities, and the one who wins will be the one who can sieze the most opportunities and follow through on them
Watching videos of people one rank higher than you can also be a way to pick up ideas without being overwhelming, as long as you have a critical eye towards what seems actually good vs what you're less likely to get away with as you progress
That's such a smart idea! I was having exactly this train of thought a while ago, about the fact that I learn nothing from watching high level vs high level matches. Love this solution!!
An underrated way to break plateaus is to limit test, a lot of mid level players (me included) are too focused on trying to play correctly and play too passive or don’t use enough of there characters bs
I really wish there was an option to go from a match straight into my replays. I really like using the replay takeover, but I just can't stand navigating through all the menus. 😅
Yea for real, this would be so sick
7:55 this is a really good interaction to touch on. One thing intermediate players don’t quite grasp is that players around their skill level or AWFUL at attacking. They need to focus on beating people around their level, and the easiest and most effective way to do it is to pick a lame character and allow the opponent to defeat themselves for you, because when they try to aggress when you move backwards they are GOING to make a mistake, guaranteed.
Nice in theory, but I've been locked at silver3 for months. Whenever I get close to silver4, I end up fighting a bunch of players who have multiple other characters at high level. I don't know if they're really smurfs, because they haven't broken to master, but they're definitely a lot more experienced and might be playing lower ranks to get over the frustration. Whenever I play against accounts with similar play time, it's way more balanced. Too bad I don't encounter those players most of the time.
I took this approach to chess being a beginner and watched hikaru play 1 min chess against noobs in order to see how he would navigate his openings. It got me up 200 elo in 3 days and I think it's a really good way to see how concepts you are learning can actually be applied at your level.
I recently got to diamond with akuma and something that helped me was watching vods of someone around my level, ranking up alongside me. The opponents they face are similar to the ones i do, so its just far more relevant for analysis. It also doesnt overwhelm me with information since its not a pro player on a smurf playing at a level im just simply not at yet. It just feels more doable lol.
i just play characters i don't know and try to learn on the fly. It helps me figure out what works, what doesn't, and quickly adapt. i won't have a flowchart and have to really think about matches. It definitely improves how I approach opponents with my main.
This is what made watching all of Sajam's Street Fighter Road to Master so instructive. As a Ryu main I was not using HP near as much as I should've
0:34 please watch your wins you need to give yourself credit for what you did right and see what worked
It’s pretty fun to watch someone cook with your main.
Waking up just to see a new Mickey D video about how to improve Is amazing, Time to watch it take notes and put the effort to get better 💪
@@Wildgustem haha appreciate it!
A fighting Game Vídeo Featuring RolePlay Games music is certainly something I came here for
all good advice, but can we acknowledge the sfv premier pass Juri costume at 3:39 lol
@@Hontonoki it's a mod haha, I loved this costume in SFV. Just seeing the mod made me want to play Juri again 😅
2 minutes in and Im truly impressed with how amazing this information is
Honestly I’ve never thought about watching pros play lower ranks. I don’t watch people stream ever. And I rarely watch non tourney game play and I think this is a really good idea. Especially for Smurf accounts right because that means the opponent won’t know who they’re playing and get Wong factored or something.
When I finally broke my final barrier to getting good back in the sf4 days r was because I studied my own matches very tediously. And it made HUGE improvements. But this is a great idea imo.
@@holdysnausages yea great call about the last point. I think there's value in watching tournament vods of better players just playing in Pools and what not too, but then their opponent may play differently because they know they're up against someone really good.
i noticed this when recently punk played marisa on stream. im sitting somewhere around 1400 rn so his opponents were rather quickly out of my skill range but it still helped a lot to see what he was doing against certain bullshits. on that note tho: does anyone know any marisa streamers who are on smurfs sometimes?
Damn good advice I never thought of this thanks, gonna get better soon
Instructions unclear. Spend entire stream spamming BOOBA every time diaphone played narmaya
respectable use of time tbh
I will definitely have to watch and take notes from streamers when they say certain tech and stuff.
2:39 w pull btw
🤣
Great advice 🙏 I also think watching someone like Justin Wong or diaphone play your character is great cuz they’ll most likely play just super solid with the basics, and you then realize you don’t need to learn every fancy combo for every specific little scenario
Yeah the best case scenario is they use your character for sure! But there's a lot to learn even if they don't as long as the character isnt insanely unique relative to yours
@ truuuuu!
Finally someone points out how looking at your own loses can be a miserable affair!
That’s soo funny I had the opposite problem when I was ranking up to master I was comfortable giving my opponent space soo I can punish there bs, but in masters it became a bad habit and I end up getting walked into the corner. At the end of the day it’s always been rounding out your weaknesses and strengths.
Haha you put it perfectly. It's funny how two people can be at a similar level but have completely opposite strengths and weaknesses and see the game so differently. One of the best parts of these games is how many new things there are to constantly reconsider haha
keep up the good work
ive also been trying to get into granblue recently and am facing similar problems. And its also bothering me. Its like the game is simple and complicated at the same time. Ive been playing sf6 since launch and want to play some other fighters. But i only play a fg to get good and even tho i like Granblue alot, last few days ive been questioning whether i really wanna sink the time in like i have with sf6.
@@nunyabizwacks6711 haha yeah I know exactly what you're experiencing. The game is so simple on paper but you need to learn sooooo much for every matchup or you'll just feel like you are really playing the game yet. That being said it is super fun once you get past the knowledge checks. If you like it at all I recommend sticking it out.
@MikeyDLuffy yea i actually think the game is amazing...i guess im just frustrated. Funnily enuff i just picked up Katalina, and thought about also trying Beatrix. I started with Seox tho. For me it actually adds mental stack just the fact there are 2 ways to control. Ita hard to decide when i should use simple inputs because i do think its detrimental in this game to just disregard them, but i am more comfortable with technical inputs of course because thats what im used to, and i feel like that alone makes me use too much brain power on. And my other problem is just recognizing wtf is going on on the screen. I know that gets better with more time in, but still.
I lost to a guy in SF6 checked the replay and got curious, saw he had a loss to Phenom the Moose big player in Europe. Was hoping for something on how Phenom got the win, guy literally just got lucky and than one and done’d 😂
watching top players and your own fights is good but you have to be really knowledgeable for it to be. I know some high level players that are not capable of doing this as good as I am cuz I've spend year studying the game. Now i spend mostly my time in the training room an d only go to ranked to test something, my advice would be, find the rank were you are stronger and kn ow why you are and what you should be doing at that rank and practice it, also please practice your confirms and punishes, you wouldn't believe how far you can go by just cashing up the damage when you find the chance, practice against the dummy in different situations (from above, from below, crossing up, dashing in) and then practice your reactions against the CPU, you need to be a ble to do your punishes and confirms as muscle memory (antiairs too) I'm tired of watching people complain cuz they don't get better and they can't DP or punish for their own sake. once you know this and have this keep practicing then at least 10 minutes forever or they will fade down on you, now go to practice your setups and safe jumps and special situations, learn corner control, learn some prominent OSs, I could say there's ton of things to learn execution and reaction wise before you have the chance of questioning yourself on why you are not improving, pick one each week or 2 a nd when you start facing 8th or up places in tournaments then let yourself worry for anything else besides execution, for real, heres people that can't even consistently throw a fireball when they are nervous and don't know it.
What's more likely me hitting legend rank or me hitting that full art Giovanni ?
As always, thanks for the crazy good advice. Time to git gud.
@@tobig3910Appreciate you, Hope it helps!
whats street fighters 6
This is a good point, it’s good to watch high level compilations to see which combos to use and basic setups. But it doesn’t show how to deal with sf6 unga bunga playstyles. I play Akuma at the moment and most top players are already at a high level with him so not sure where I could find this kind of footage
You play Akuma, what are you talking about lol, you ARE the uga bunga
@Kara-de5cz Shows what you know. what does Akuma have to get easy pressure? The game mechanics are unga bunga. I bet you play some neutral skipping bs character and running away jumping and drive impacting like a scrub, thinking you’re good lol
@@mikey22355 I've never said I was good, and I know I'll never be able to lol. I just hate Akuma with all my heart
@Kara-de5cz really, what do you hate about him? His low health makes risky play quite rewarding against him, jumping and DI’s take 50% health and he’s got stubby normals. I guess if you don’t have a DP his air approach would be really annoying to deal with. Who do you play?
@@mikey22355 I play Bison. I know I know, my character is kinda stupid.
But yours easily shimmies and grabs me 24/7 because of his walk speed and my bad reactions. So I lose.