When Wood Wheels Become Spiders | | Engels Coach Shop
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- When spokes are assembled into a wagon or buggy hub, and before the felloes are assembled, these are known as spiders. This 10 foot tall logging wheel is now in the spider form after I have started putting the spokes into the hubs. This is the process of final shaping of the spokes so they fit these dodged hubs correctly.
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There are rare times when a 'like' is so insufficient that it seems inadequate to the point of despair. This is one of those times. I am in awe at the craftmanship,
Tremendous amount of work for one spoke set alone... and there's two wheels. Dave has more work diligence than most other people, that's for sure.
These wheels even unfinished are tremendously impressive! We will get to see the finished wheels. I hope we get to see them assembled to the finished logging wheel.
Never found so much patience and extreme precision in a single man. Compliments! Greetings from Italy. 👍👍
Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
Fantastic. An absolute masterclass in setting up and running a production run. America needs you more than ever, Mr. Engels. I was convinced you were going to make a giant pencil, for a moment. You being one who enjoys a bit of humour.👏
You are not the only one who was thinking those spokes could be a giant pencil Dave is an amazing craftsman for sure!
I was wondering where the pencil comments were.
I'm not surprised that a man with your penchant for craft would not only make beautiful things out of metal and wood, but also delightful media out of electrons and photons. Thank you for inviting us into your shop.
The customer is going to need that " big enough lever " to install these wheels.
Thank you both, I I hope you have a wonderful day.
Really great to watch a craftsman apply his trade. The thought that goes into how to do these tasks is amazing.
I just KNEW you were going to come back with the crescent wrench and get all those square nuts oriented in the same plane!
A lot more complicated than regular wagon wheels for sure!
That belt sander got a workout with these spokes!
Looking great, Dave!
First it was CAD (cardboard aided design).Now you have Digital scales (operated with your digits).Getting hi-tech there Dave.
Good one.
Every time Dave said "Come together" I thought of John Lennon.....@@walteralter1686
The scale of that when assembled is unbelievable ! I can't wait to see the finished wheels !
Looks like it could be a water wheel.
You shure showed it who's the Boss.
Very impressive outcome.
Thanks.
You'd never think about those little interferences just looking at the hubs. Test spokes save time and frustration.
Engels is a spokesman.
Well, the museum will have working log arch when you get this puzzle from the past figured out.
Poor dust collector filter earned itself a good cleaning for sure. 😉👍
Good for you for leaving the hoist attached for SAFETY reasons !! That's experience, Dave !!
That wheel is going to be even more massive than I envisioned.
I watched with rapt attention. That is one massive wheel. Excellent camera angles, and that sanding machine is a powerful item for sure. Thank you, Jim.
I didn’t really appreciate what the scale was going to be until you installed the spokes on the first hub. Beastly big😊. Love your channel.
Can't imagine how you are going to be able th handle those giants throughout the whole process without any assistance. Take great care.
Finally I understand what happens inside a pencil sharpener 😎
Great half-spider! Your videos make it look easy but that’s already a lot of work!
A tank sprocket and railway ties . . .Now that's huge spider!
BIG Wheels keep a rollin'.
The foundry did their best to create those hubs, but you have to take what they gave you and re-invent a new wheel!
That is one hefty belt sander, very aggressive. So many things to consider. Thanks Dave
The number of skill sets one must have to do what you do is nothing less than amazing. But it is not just the number of skills, but just as importantly, the quality of work that must be accomplished. You are indeed a National treasure!
The spokes look like big pencils when you round them off for the tenon - great video 🙂
Hi Dave, and Diane, I'm glad that you got all the bolts figured out for these hubs. Great kit for the wheel stand. This certainly will be a giant wheel. Lots of fun as usual. Thank you for sharing Dave.
And just when you thought those 1,000 pound Borax wagon wheels were big, this colossus comes along.
I see another day of bonfire tire setting coming. Hopefully, it'll be cooled down some by then.
I think Dave should make one spoke with 'Ticonderoga' on it for a gag. Anyone not knowing what he's doing might think he's making giant-sized pencils.
what a monster!!! I can hardly wait 'til we put on the "tire"!
There is part of me that says you tricked us into learning like you say, "The wagon is my teacher."
I’m afraid of spiders but it looks like you got this one tamed
Interresting to see how you don this with this giant wheel, I think here in the Netherlands or over here in Europe nobody can rebuilt these wheels anymore. Good that you put this on your youtube channel. These craftmanship stays alive this way
8 point sockets---worth every darned penny when you are regularly working with restorations that have square nuts and bolt heads.
Fitting that tire will be interesting.
"Practice makes perfect." You sure are showing us the perfect results from lots a practice. Thanks for sharing Dave. And the excellence in camera work too.
Blessings.🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🤔
This is really interesting. Years ago I helped record a number of historic logging areas (camps, skids, etc.). We found hubs similar to those a couple of times, but never understood what they were. Now, there's a sense of "ah hah!"
Sir, you have solved a problem for us by viewing your video. My daughter was at a flea market this last weekend and purchased an item that no one knew what it was, but she thought that my son might figure it out. On the steel, it said Sweet Tire & Rubber, Batavia N.Y. It is very similar to your Machine for setting rubber tires, but it may be a little older and more heavy-duty. Your talent as a wheel right is amazing. I am 75 years old and come from a family of 4 generations of carpenters and one shipbuilder. Thank You, Larry
Looks like the Friendly Giant's pencil factory 😁
Cheers
It is what you do ! But more about you the man ! Your humor is enjoyed as well . THANK YOU Dave
That's gotta be close to the largest size that a person working alone can put together. I've got to believe that when these were in production that they were made in at least a two person shop.
I think the Holt Mfg. Co., Stockton, Cal. also traded as Stockton Wheel Service. They also invented one of the first track laying tractors, bought a bankrupt manufacturer in Peoria, Ill. and eventually changed the company name to Caterpillar Tractor Company.
I think Stockton Wheel was part of LeTourneau, a closely affiliated company. Holt and Best did not invent the crawler tractor but did develop it from a crude concept. In 1925, Holt and Best merged to form Caterpillar. The name reportedly came from a comment that the tractor moved like a caterpillar. Both Holt and Best were in the combined harvester business. Tractors were just an afterthought as a way to move the harvesters. After the merger, Cat virtually gave the harvester business to John Deere. At that time, John Deere's line of implements complemented Cat's tractor business.
These wheels are way more complicated than I ever imagined. All these little quirks seem awfully complex for the logging world at that time.
Thank you.
Fun watching you figuring out the small issues.
I know it's not easy working with this scale but it makes for a super interesting video! I really enjoy watching it come together, thank you for sharing 😁
That giant belt sander looks like it would be perfect for sharpening giant pencils, that could be used to draw giant spiders :)
Well dave that is not one of your normal wheel builds .
Some new learning to do with these two wheels .
Coming on nicely 👍👍👍
Nothing like preparation when tackling a large job. You could branch out into paddle wheels after this 🤔👌
My father in his working farm days always referred to the square nuts you are using as BURRs for whatever reason.
That Spider is LIT!
so different to your usual wheels, very interesting and looks quite challenging! Cheers, Ian in Blackpool, UK
I will be waiting for the next step.
That's the size of spider that rumor says lives in Australia!
Very interesting to watch Dave. Thanks.
I sometimes wonder whether the wheelwrights were this meticulous when they made these wheels back in the old days. I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos.
I know some editing went into this, but you made that look relatively simple. Bravo sir.
Wow. Fortunately, your shop is high enough.😂
That wheel is going to be massive. You are doing a great job on the design, construction and at the same time explaining what you are doing. Thank you for taking us along.
Wonderful 🕷️
I've noticed that, if I want to comment on one of Dave's videos, I'd better add it withing the first few hours. This video has only been up one day and already has 313 comments. That should tell us how popular this man is!
really need to charge the client for this assembly instructional video as I do not believe any one else would have gone to the in-depth assembly as you have done
I think I finally appreciate the sheer size of the wheels and clearly the vehicle they attach to.
Now,i see how big are this wheels, your work is extraterestial
Twas amazing to watch you sharpen those pencils to match that circle. Better than most pencil sharpeners I have for small stuff!!! Wowzuh. Also, great to learn the name for the tool I've had in my garage - a spoke cone! See you next time.
Lol did anyone actually think you had been to a shop to buy that kit, that was soooo funny.:)
I had a brain fart, and I was wondering who in the world would build and sell a kit for something like this.
They say the brain is the second thing to go w/age.
Yep, IKEA do one...The Hjulstodja.
I knew he was trolling the slow ones in the back
Looking great Dave, those will be some awesome wheels when you complete them. Art work by Dave!!! Stay safe and keep having fun around there. Fred.
Inspiring work Dave.
Thanks for sharing
Have you ever thought of an alternative profession of making giant pencils?
Well done! Beat me to it! ;-)
I thought the same thing looks like a big #2 pencil
Workmanship excellent as always Dave. Also, the camerawork on this segment is outstanding. Loved the shot from the top of the sander. Every Friday I know my day will be brighter thanks to Dave for letting us spend time with him in his workshop.
I was on vacation this week visiting my son in Philipsburg, MT and passed by the exit for you area twice. I am glad I didn't stop, you might just have put me to work, grin... This is quite a project and I find it very interesting and am anxious to see more of the process.
Wow...just WOW - looking forward to the next chapter!
I'm from a patternmaking background and I like seeing those old iron castings.
My goodness those things are massive. The pictures you showed before did not do them justice!
Dave Thank You again for another learning experience
I look forward to your videos every week - a dose of patience, skill, and wisdom. Thank you!
Thanks, Dave!
Wow. I hope we get to see the completed arch. It's going to be huge.
Davd:
I was sorry to see this video end, the huge wheel is really looking interesting. I also like to see how you solve the problems that you encounter. I think with each episode I get better informed on how spoke wheels go together plus I can see why you cannot give a bid for the finished wheel. There are just too many unknowns. Thank you for sharing. David Adair
That thing is massive!
So satisfying watching the assembly of the spider. However, all the real skill is in the work that has gone before!
That’s impressive! I am 99.9% sure I will never make a wagon wheel but I do enjoy watching the process. Thanks for sharing this.
I've often wondered, Dave, why you work by yourself. As you were sanding those 48 spokes to within millimeters of the layout lines you drew, it hit me. You wouldn't be able to find someone who could perform the meticulous, precise, work you do, over and over and over. They lose focus, their mind would wander, the hand would slip, and something that already had much time invested in it, would be ruined. I really enjoy your channel which is unique on TH-cam because it shows people what it truly takes and means to be a craftsman.
Love the planning and preparation you put into each task! Test spokes to discover all of the points of contact well ahead of the work on the whole set. Great labor saver, Dave. And wood saver, too, I'm sure! Awesome job!
Lol we all kew who the manufacturer was. And we enjoyed the content and commentary anyway. It brought a little joy to an otherwise boring tuesday afternoon 😂. Will that bar be able to handle the weight with all that wood? Wow. If it isn't one thing with this hub, it's another 😮
I didn't, I was totally confused by what he said at the beginning of this video, so he was acting in the other video? I'm still confused.
This build series in super interesting Dave, not that your previous ones weren't. but for such a huge wheel, the work is quite interesting.
Thanks _ Dave - true master of the craft - The process of applying your skill is in itself the art of teaching - your view your guide . Thank you my Friday is complete
Dave looks like you where making TEXAS sized pencils with those spokes. ✏
Evening Dave and Diane, it does make me think that watching you do all the figuring out is a great way to teach maths, (math). Having to figure out angles, dividing multiplying figuring out a radius or circumference, fractions, adding subtracting fractions. It's all the stuff we got taught at school, but it would have mad3 it a lot easier watching someone like yourself but a predisessor make it interesting and showing a practical use for it all. Thanks for the great video, wait up every Friday night to watch it. Regards Richard 🇬🇧
I think that is the point of all these guys on TH-cam, especially the machine shop guys, trying to make math and science relevant and to a generation in search of immediate gratification. God knows that the Boards of Education in this country have given up.
Most enjoyable to watch and listen to you explain what and how you are going to get the task completed, very enjoyable.
From Missouri, the Show Me State, and you do a heck of a job showing us your God given skills. Thank you.
Biggest damn tinker-toy set I've ever seen ;)
Truely exceptional skill here by Dave,but if these were made before the days of belt sanders just imagine the amount of work that went into the making of them originally.
Lead free pencils! Nice job.
What an enormous job. All those spokes, both sides, and with some complex geometry.
Gets easy after a few, but still takes concentration, and a bunch of stamina. That ain't no bicycle wheel.
Wow ! What a job ! People don’t understand that every step needs to be checked two times and then checked again! Big wheels - big job ! God bless
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A lot of repetitive works goes into building a wagon wheel. Especially this size wheel. That would drive me crazy over time. No wonder you don't want to make wheels any more. Would be nice if you could just build the bodies and order the wheels from another smith. Great work as usual, thanks for sharing.
Great camera work, very intuitive and informative! Thanks for sharing!
Love your work. I appreciated your barn build. I built a 40x64 pole barn back in 1991 so I know how much work it is.
7:05 - That's one big pencil!!
Thats some huge dolly...creative construction for sure...lumbering wasnt for sissies, horse drawn too....oh my
Dave you are a patient man