I'm glad Dr.Brown made these videos, combined with the lectures it actually helps me understand Philosophy and makes it look easy (but in reality is not because it's philosophy, the last word to describe philosophy is easy)
Hi Wowaconia, I had the Unwritten Doctrines mostly in mind and I take the commentary of Alexander of Aphrodisias on Metaph. A, 6 & 9 to be among the strongest evidence that there were such lectures/treatises (see the entry on him at the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, also see the Internet Encyclopedia of Phil on Middle Platonism). But I completely agree that this is a much disputed matter and I probably should have made that clear in the lecture,
I just want everyone to know that their essence of life (in Socrates view) aka their Soul is naturally good and only disfigured through Ignorance. And even without arms they still have a full potential for life as long as they are knowledgeable about the proper ways to treat their body and their soul.. I really appreciate your lectures and I really really appreciate this opportunity for comments/questions and feedback.. people like you are important for the world. Thanks. ~Trebol
Philosophy is astounding- the perspectives, doctrines - everything.....Understanding and listening, hearing each point of view, one can be swayed or not but in the same sense acquiring another important part of the world we live in, the people , lifestyle, society etc. There's so much more as Socrates said I know nothing ( each day is a great opportunity for more knowledge) ps apologies my mind to keyboard isn't very good , I'm learning )....
Hi PuraVidaTrebol, that is a good point. I wasn't intending that people take the analogy that far but was rather just trying to intuitively illustrate Socrates' point that you can't live your best life if your body is disfigured and that it would be even worse to have a disfigured soul (according to him)
+C. Nathan Chavez Probably some religious nut who does not like ideas from 'pagan' philosophers. Doubt the naysayers bother to listen to what they thumbs down. TH-cam (maybe the internet) is our Gutenberg press. Yes there is nonsense on the internet, but pornography came very quickly to the Gutenberg press. Namaste and care, mhikl
Mhi kl there are similarities to Jesus he was crucified by an elite for humiliating them example the Jewish elders telling the Romans Jesus was a bad man because he told people he was wise and good because he was God and performed miracles, to the ruling religious elite this was blasphemy and posed a risk to their power and control over the people!!!!!!!! Also There is no historical record of Socrates writings as these supposed writings are oral history derived from the writings of Plato and he's contemporaries which is similar to The Gospels of the Bible writing about Jesus's oral teachings on morality and philosophy!!!!!!!!
i am thankful to you for uploading such a wonderful series,Looking forward to philosophy of religion and social and political philosophy........Thanks a lot yet again
I believe that the essence of the soul is unique to each person. As influenced by Socratic thought, I believe the essence of a persons soul is their individual harmony, however the person chooses to play it or embrace it depends on how much they are attuned to it.
Doc Brown: You're probably already aware of this fact, but a few of your slides (btwn 14:00 - 21:00) are "fuzzy" ... Nevertheless, great lecture series; much appreciated! I am utilizing your lectures w/gifted high school students who are thoroughly enjoying the information and the clarity in which you present the lectures.
Dr. Brown, you mention that there are lost essays/treatises of Plato, what are you referring to? I have read that at one time the "Divisions" and the "Unwritten Doctrines" were considered to be lost works of his but that these are generally considered to not be his works by modern scholars. What essays do you hold that he wrote that are lost and where are they mentioned?
your videos are great, I'm watching them to prepare myself for philosophy 103, and to understand the fundementals of philosophy better. But some sections could use some additional breakdown/ clarification. such as Socrates opinions on the soul and his argument for it and the argument for why someone can't believe that God(s) said that being truthful is good because they claimed it to be AND the truth is good and that's why God(s) proclaimed it to be. the last five minutes were a little thick and hard to understand. regardless I love your videos, thanks for making them public!
The ads ruin this lecture with their haphazard placement. With all the money this platform has, along with its parent company, you would think it could find a more intelligent way of putting in ads in a way that doesn’t cut off the speaker mid sentence.
this is great! thank you so much for posting. I can hear a bit of an echo of some of the themes Wittgenstein dealt with centuries later. It seems the beginning of the attempt to use logic to discuss philosophy is here with Socrates, rather than just gradiose philosophizing about 'the meaning of life' or 'what would Jesus do,' i.e., opinion and predjudice on the one hand, and reason and logic on the other.
Spirit = self - aware presence, that I am. Soul = integrated heart, mind and will (Psyche). Uniting or harmonizing the perspective of the mind (concept isomorphic or true to perception) with the attitude or values of the heart (what we are emotionally for or against) activates and empowers the will to take action. Body/world = magic mirror reflecting our current state of being. Feedback to be calibrated, corrections made to attain desirable outcomes. Spirit = innermost = Being Soul = midmost = Knowing Body = outermost = Doing Spirit = Being = Soul = Awareness = Body/world = Experience The Spirit or continuum of Being employs the Soul to convert experience into awareness (learning directly from experience) and awareness into experience (dreaming our experience and experiencing our dream). These form a 3 in 1 unity or continuum. Socrates got in trouble because he left his victims feeling one down instead of empowering them with a viable alternative ; a mild form of malicious envy. His poor defense was that he had woke them up to their ignorance thus suggesting that he had done them a favor, obscuring the fact that he offered nothing in it's place. Passive/aggressive one-upmanship leads inevitably to tragedy. His sense of egoic self - importance required public recognition as the champion of champions, despite his unacknowledged disappointment in his appearance, his unattractiveness. Good and evil are relative terms of use. Power (god, impartially for) is neutral. How it is used is either good or evil. A hammer is power. It can be used to build or destroy, help or hinder. Evil is a subset of Good. Most and least are therefore the poles of the continuum of behaviour.
A different view on why those such as Socrates do not write.There is a state of consciousness where one transcends such communication. Imagine hearing divine music on the inner planes and communicating with others who have had similar experiences. There are no words to actually communicate the essence of the experience but the confirmation would clear. Similarly there are no words to express to those who have not yet developed their "inner" ear.
Its interesting how he defends himself about deamons. He said you accuse that i dont believe in god but in our religion deamons are somekind of gods. So how can i believe in deamons gods and not believing in gods at the same time. :)
Thanks for posting. Look up ayatollah Khomeini and the Islamic republic of Iran. This republic resembles plato's republic. According to ayatollah Khomeini so Socretes was a man of god. Possibly a prophet.
[Miscellaneous-spirit and Genuine-spirit, What is your mental index (SQ, Spiritual Quotient)?] I use spirit, mind, and soul to distinguish it, and divide the spirit into miscellaneous-spirit and genuine-spirit. Miscellaneous-spirit is a spirit associated with everyday life for the flesh, and genuine-spirit is used as a spirit of truth-realization. I have developed a measurement table that measures individual’s mental level according to the degree to which he has realized real-truth. There are 150 steps in the table, ranging from -500 to +1000 depending on how much you have developed your spirit based on your intelligence. Those who are trapped in the physical world and live mainly in the flesh belong to the scope of -500 ~ +500, and those who do the real-truth and live mentally belong to +500 ~ +1000. Another separate table gives the examples of the well-known persons’ SQs in human history. Are not you curious about how much your SQ is? OnCharm Lee (Author of the book “Humans & Truth - human life is the awakening process”)
The concept of divinity must have earned the most eye rolls in the history of the human race. Such egotistical mammals men are to think that even the concept of a God, such a powerful and deeply profound entity, would concern itself with human gratification or appraisal. Socrates may have not written because he preferred to teach those that could not read and therefore he could study. Inner ears are just new age b.s to say "understanding"
[Immortality of the Soul and Enlightenment] An individual soul can never be immortal. But the God, which corresponds to the whole soul, is immortal and eternal. An individual soul is the reflected and accumulated part of the whole soul on an individual during its lifetime. All physical entities have physical life and death. But God has no physical life or death. God is an intangible being as truth itself, which is never changed, but always right. Truth is the content of God, and the whole truth is God. So God exists from the beginning of any physical being and is right forever without physical life and death. Secondary physical existences have even a little divine attribute due to coming out of God. Life in the secondary existences refers to the beings that perform larger mental activities than pure substances, willing activities with cognition and intelligence. Life feels the circumstance, the nature, the natural law, the truth and God. According to the size of the spirit, the degree of intellectual activity, the degree of living, and the degree of feeling truth and God are different. Spirit refers to the function of intellectual activity, or the channel that realizes truth and feels God at a higher level. And the quality and magnitude of the soul refers to the accumulated truth that has been continuously realized through the spirit for his lifetime, while using the spirit. The realization of truth by an individual becomes to know God. So the soul is the projection of God to him. The realization of truth is how to know God, how to make a great soul, how to live wide and long. Truth and God exist in the physical world anytime and anywhere without changing. I categorize the spirit into the miscellaneous spirit for everyday bodily life and the genuine spirit for truth realization and make a table to measure each Soul Quotient (SQ). The larger the genuine spirit, the greater the soul can be made. The better in the quality and the larger the soul, the more spacious and longer the life. When an individual dies, his spiritual activity ceases and also his soul development ceases. Physical death means that there is no physical basis for spiritual activity to occur and for the soul to grow. Truth can be shared by any number of individuals. Therefore, truths that have been realized by an individual can be propagated to other people who live in the same age and passed on to later generations. These are the phenomena in which the individual souls affect other souls and are felt to be alive. As a conclusion, the whole soul, God, is not dead but immortal, but individual souls can last as long as souls that have been raised for their lifetimes, but never immortal. Be careful not to fall into the illusions or false theories that the individual soul is immortal. (If you want your soul to be immortal forever, realize the whole truth and become God's level, and you will live forever without death!) "God is alive, so the universe is alive, and thus I am alive." God never dies, and ancient saints are still alive according to their souls. From now on, let's look whether it is dead or alive based on the spirit (or the soul) rather than the flesh. Then all philosophical questions and actual problems of mankind will be resolved. OnCharm Lee (Author of the book “Humans & Truth - human life is the awakening process”)
Hello have you died before??? I mean you refer more than once to ceasing to exist or dying. I ask this because I have died for nearly 10 minutes ( no signs of life ) I am not criticising your beliefs nor contradicting your feelings and hope . I understand that there is a manual or book for religious guidance for whichever you are inclined. I can state as matter of a fact when you die there Is nothing it is the blackest non - existant place in fact it isn't a place it is nothing. We are animals that live on the earth and we die exactly the same as an ant or a giraffe. When the lights are switched off there is nothing.... Thanks for listening
Greatly enjoying these lectures, very informative and well constructed, thanks a lot for putting these up! Just one pet-peeve, please stop saying eck-cetera, it's et-cetera :D.
Fully watched the fist lecture that is on pre-Socratic philosophy. Excited to watch this video. Thank you Mr Richard Brown.
Awesome video. Please keep posting new ones.
Dr. Richard Brown, Thank you, for your most insightful view of Socrates. Kudos! Cheers :-)
I'm glad Dr.Brown made these videos, combined with the lectures it actually helps me understand Philosophy and makes it look easy (but in reality is not because it's philosophy, the last word to describe philosophy is easy)
Hi Wowaconia, I had the Unwritten Doctrines mostly in mind and I take the commentary of Alexander of Aphrodisias on Metaph. A, 6 & 9 to be among the strongest evidence that there were such lectures/treatises (see the entry on him at the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, also see the Internet Encyclopedia of Phil on Middle Platonism). But I completely agree that this is a much disputed matter and I probably should have made that clear in the lecture,
I didn't get around to studying Socrates in college but I love your videos.
thanks for uploading, I like this stuff, I wanted to let you know you might want to reload this video at 41-43 mins the sound breaks up.
I just want everyone to know that their essence of life (in Socrates view) aka their Soul is naturally good and only disfigured through Ignorance. And even without arms they still have a full potential for life as long as they are knowledgeable about the proper ways to treat their body and their soul.. I really appreciate your lectures and I really really appreciate this opportunity for comments/questions and feedback.. people like you are important for the world.
Thanks.
~Trebol
Philosophy is astounding- the perspectives, doctrines - everything.....Understanding and listening, hearing each point of view, one can be swayed or not but in the same sense acquiring another important part of the world we live in, the people , lifestyle, society etc. There's so much more as Socrates said I know nothing ( each day is a great opportunity for more knowledge)
ps apologies my mind to keyboard isn't very good , I'm learning )....
Hi PuraVidaTrebol, that is a good point. I wasn't intending that people take the analogy that far but was rather just trying to intuitively illustrate Socrates' point that you can't live your best life if your body is disfigured and that it would be even worse to have a disfigured soul (according to him)
What is wrong with 42:23
Thanks for the video
Socrates didn’t, believe in writing anything down but wasn’t it Socrates that said an ‘unrecorded life isn’t worth living’?
"unexamined", not "unrecorded".
At around 14 something it's blurred. So, Dr. Brown please get it together.
Those who gave this a thumbs down, have committed evil out of ignorance.
+C. Nathan Chavez
Probably some religious nut who does not like ideas from 'pagan' philosophers. Doubt the naysayers bother to listen to what they thumbs down.
TH-cam (maybe the internet) is our Gutenberg press. Yes there is nonsense on the internet, but pornography came very quickly to the Gutenberg press.
Namaste and care,
mhikl
+Mhi kl Good point!
Mhi kl there are similarities to Jesus he was crucified by an elite for humiliating them example the Jewish elders telling the Romans Jesus was a bad man because he told people he was wise and good because he was God and performed miracles, to the ruling religious elite this was blasphemy and posed a risk to their power and control over the people!!!!!!!! Also There is no historical record of Socrates writings as these supposed writings are oral history derived from the writings of Plato and he's contemporaries which is similar to The Gospels of the Bible writing about Jesus's oral teachings on morality and philosophy!!!!!!!!
I really enjoy your lectures. Is there a way I can download the notes?
haha. that works.
thank you very much for uploading this course :)
22:28 No one knowingly does Evil.
Ignorance misleads men to do evil.
30:40 “The Unexamined Life is not worth living.”
i am thankful to you for uploading such a wonderful series,Looking forward to philosophy of religion and social and political philosophy........Thanks a lot yet again
thanks for all of ur vids.. helped me a lot to understand.. Adrian, Norway
I believe that the essence of the soul is unique to each person. As influenced by Socratic thought, I believe the essence of a persons soul is their individual harmony, however the person chooses to play it or embrace it depends on how much they are attuned to it.
Thank you sooo much for this video! clear and concise explanation
Thank you so much for this video
can anyone tell me the notes on the slide Socrates on the soul? the notes were blurry
Doc Brown: You're probably already aware of this fact, but a few of your slides (btwn 14:00 - 21:00) are "fuzzy" ... Nevertheless, great lecture series; much appreciated!
I am utilizing your lectures w/gifted high school students who are thoroughly enjoying the information and the clarity in which you present the lectures.
thank you very much! a lecture that every one should hear at least once in their life :)
Serious audio problems beginning around 41 minute mark.
Dr. Brown, you mention that there are lost essays/treatises of Plato, what are you referring to? I have read that at one time the "Divisions" and the "Unwritten Doctrines" were considered to be lost works of his but that these are generally considered to not be his works by modern scholars. What essays do you hold that he wrote that are lost and where are they mentioned?
Name the war Socrates fought in.. was it the Peloponnesian wars...
Is clarificatory a word?
your videos are great, I'm watching them to prepare myself for philosophy 103, and to understand the fundementals of philosophy better. But some sections could use some additional breakdown/ clarification. such as Socrates opinions on the soul and his argument for it and the argument for why someone can't believe that God(s) said that being truthful is good because they claimed it to be AND the truth is good and that's why God(s) proclaimed it to be. the last five minutes were a little thick and hard to understand. regardless I love your videos, thanks for making them public!
awesome video, thank you so much!
Thanks sir its my 3rd lecture very impressive thanks so much learning too many things
There is really bad audio starting around 42 minutes through 43minutes.
Thank you!
Yes, thank you, but what happened to the AUDIO @ 42 minutes!
Socrates is talked about today, several thousand years later. Perhaps the soul is eternal if it is coupled or embedded in truth
The ads ruin this lecture with their haphazard placement. With all the money this platform has, along with its parent company, you would think it could find a more intelligent way of putting in ads in a way that doesn’t cut off the speaker mid sentence.
this is great! thank you so much for posting. I can hear a bit of an echo of some of the themes Wittgenstein dealt with centuries later. It seems the beginning of the attempt to use logic to discuss philosophy is here with Socrates, rather than just gradiose philosophizing about 'the meaning of life' or 'what would Jesus do,' i.e., opinion and predjudice on the one hand, and reason and logic on the other.
If you write things down you also become accountable for what you say. My guess is that had something to do with it.
Spirit = self - aware presence, that I am.
Soul = integrated heart, mind and will (Psyche). Uniting or harmonizing the perspective of the mind (concept isomorphic or true to perception) with the attitude or values of the heart (what we are emotionally for or against) activates and empowers the will to take action.
Body/world = magic mirror reflecting our current state of being. Feedback to be calibrated, corrections made to attain desirable outcomes.
Spirit = innermost = Being
Soul = midmost = Knowing
Body = outermost = Doing
Spirit = Being =
Soul = Awareness =
Body/world = Experience
The Spirit or continuum of Being employs the Soul to convert experience into awareness (learning directly from experience) and awareness into experience (dreaming our experience and experiencing our dream).
These form a 3 in 1 unity or continuum.
Socrates got in trouble because he left his victims feeling one down instead of empowering them with a viable alternative ; a mild form of malicious envy. His poor defense was that he had woke them up to their ignorance thus suggesting that he had done them a favor, obscuring the fact that he offered nothing in it's place. Passive/aggressive one-upmanship leads inevitably to tragedy. His sense of egoic self - importance required public recognition as the champion of champions, despite his unacknowledged disappointment in his appearance, his unattractiveness.
Good and evil are relative terms of use. Power (god, impartially for) is neutral. How it is used is either good or evil. A hammer is power. It can be used to build or destroy, help or hinder. Evil is a subset of Good. Most and least are therefore the poles of the continuum of behaviour.
Nietzsche thought that the Greeks has very good reason for charging Socrates with corrupting the youth.
A different view on why those such as Socrates do not write.There is a state of consciousness where one transcends such communication. Imagine hearing divine music on the inner planes and communicating with others who have had similar experiences. There are no words to actually communicate the essence of the experience but the confirmation would clear. Similarly there are no words to express to those who have not yet developed their "inner" ear.
Its interesting how he defends himself about deamons. He said you accuse that i dont believe in god but in our religion deamons are somekind of gods. So how can i believe in deamons gods and not believing in gods at the same time. :)
Socrates was a badass!
He looked like a bad ass aswell.
...And probably smelled like it aswell.
Thanks for posting. Look up ayatollah Khomeini and the Islamic republic of Iran. This republic resembles plato's republic. According to ayatollah Khomeini so Socretes was a man of god. Possibly a prophet.
Interesting
So Socrates was the first Rock star...
[Miscellaneous-spirit and Genuine-spirit, What is your mental index (SQ, Spiritual Quotient)?]
I use spirit, mind, and soul to distinguish it, and divide the spirit into miscellaneous-spirit and genuine-spirit. Miscellaneous-spirit is a spirit associated with everyday life for the flesh, and genuine-spirit is used as a spirit of truth-realization.
I have developed a measurement table that measures individual’s mental level according to the degree to which he has realized real-truth. There are 150 steps in the table, ranging from -500 to +1000 depending on how much you have developed your spirit based on your intelligence.
Those who are trapped in the physical world and live mainly in the flesh belong to the scope of -500 ~ +500, and those who do the real-truth and live mentally belong to +500 ~ +1000. Another separate table gives the examples of the well-known persons’ SQs in human history.
Are not you curious about how much your SQ is?
OnCharm Lee (Author of the book “Humans & Truth - human life is the awakening process”)
You cant agree on every aspect of life. Just be the Historian who knows about it
The concept of divinity must have earned the most eye rolls in the history of the human race. Such egotistical mammals men are to think that even the concept of a God, such a powerful and deeply profound entity, would concern itself with human gratification or appraisal. Socrates may have not written because he preferred to teach those that could not read and therefore he could study. Inner ears are just new age b.s to say "understanding"
The love of a father for his children says something about the father, not about the children.
I want to direct you to a new podcast that is like a lecture called philosophize this
Xenophon?
shmoke weed everyday right?
[Immortality of the Soul and Enlightenment]
An individual soul can never be immortal. But the God, which corresponds to the whole soul, is immortal and eternal. An individual soul is the reflected and accumulated part of the whole soul on an individual during its lifetime.
All physical entities have physical life and death. But God has no physical life or death. God is an intangible being as truth itself, which is never changed, but always right. Truth is the content of God, and the whole truth is God. So God exists from the beginning of any physical being and is right forever without physical life and death.
Secondary physical existences have even a little divine attribute due to coming out of God. Life in the secondary existences refers to the beings that perform larger mental activities than pure substances, willing activities with cognition and intelligence. Life feels the circumstance, the nature, the natural law, the truth and God. According to the size of the spirit, the degree of intellectual activity, the degree of living, and the degree of feeling truth and God are different.
Spirit refers to the function of intellectual activity, or the channel that realizes truth and feels God at a higher level. And the quality and magnitude of the soul refers to the accumulated truth that has been continuously realized through the spirit for his lifetime, while using the spirit.
The realization of truth by an individual becomes to know God. So the soul is the projection of God to him. The realization of truth is how to know God, how to make a great soul, how to live wide and long. Truth and God exist in the physical world anytime and anywhere without changing.
I categorize the spirit into the miscellaneous spirit for everyday bodily life and the genuine spirit for truth realization and make a table to measure each Soul Quotient (SQ). The larger the genuine spirit, the greater the soul can be made. The better in the quality and the larger the soul, the more spacious and longer the life.
When an individual dies, his spiritual activity ceases and also his soul development ceases. Physical death means that there is no physical basis for spiritual activity to occur and for the soul to grow.
Truth can be shared by any number of individuals. Therefore, truths that have been realized by an individual can be propagated to other people who live in the same age and passed on to later generations. These are the phenomena in which the individual souls affect other souls and are felt to be alive.
As a conclusion, the whole soul, God, is not dead but immortal, but individual souls can last as long as souls that have been raised for their lifetimes, but never immortal. Be careful not to fall into the illusions or false theories that the individual soul is immortal. (If you want your soul to be immortal forever, realize the whole truth and become God's level, and you will live forever without death!)
"God is alive, so the universe is alive, and thus I am alive." God never dies, and ancient saints are still alive according to their souls. From now on, let's look whether it is dead or alive based on the spirit (or the soul) rather than the flesh. Then all philosophical questions and actual problems of mankind will be resolved.
OnCharm Lee (Author of the book “Humans & Truth - human life is the awakening process”)
Hello have you died before??? I mean you refer more than once to ceasing to exist or dying. I ask this because I have died for nearly 10 minutes ( no signs of life ) I am not criticising your beliefs nor contradicting your feelings and hope . I understand that there is a manual or book for religious guidance for whichever you are inclined. I can state as matter of a fact when you die there Is nothing it is the blackest non - existant place in fact it isn't a place it is nothing.
We are animals that live on the earth and we die exactly the same as an ant or a giraffe. When the lights are switched off there is nothing.... Thanks for listening
Greatly enjoying these lectures, very informative and well constructed, thanks a lot for putting these up! Just one pet-peeve, please stop saying eck-cetera, it's et-cetera :D.
Extremely poor quality video. I can't believe people are up-voting it. I'd be ashamed to upload such a poorly made video.
I came ready to learn but sadly I am too high, I will return though - adios
Fraco argumento!!!!
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