Fentanyl Addicted Couple-Bret and Kayla
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- Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Bret and kayla, a fentanyl addicted couple on Skid Row.
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Addiction is devastating but we do recover. I have 786 days clean and sober and still going strong. I stay recovering out loud so others can speak up and get help. End the stigma 😢
Good on you!! 👏🏼👏🏼
Proud of you!! Keep going! 💪🏽
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Amazing🔥
Congratulations Donna!
Brett go. Save yourself. Kayla is not ready. Once she's ready and clean if its meant to be, you'll be together again. I hear your pain, frustration. You're sick of the life ur living. My heart breaks for you. Get off the ferris wheel and walk away. SAVE yourself. Please. You are a gentle kind genuine soul. Do yourself a favor and save yourself.
No way 2 addicts can never be together especially after rehab start over alone forgrt each other deadly
No use making SUGGESTIONS to AMERICANS.
@@tuforu4 f u
@@happyhannah680 yep they need isolationism.
They not yet have ROCKBOTTOM.
@@tuforu4 4 sho
Oh man. Brett, you gotta go brother. We all have decisions to make. She’ll either follow or stay. I know it’s tough when you love someone but you gotta love yourself first. I’m 51 and have been dealing with addiction all my life also. Good luck
I agree. She loves what she is doing. Blames everyone but her self.
@@cathystrydom8731 yes exactly she says her grandparents were her escape route celebrated holiday etc yet she still decided to do drugs, she blames her mom, hmmm she was going to get involved in drugs regardless
Ryan’s doomed marriage series really paints the picture. Rest easy Ryan Leone 🕊️
He still doesn't look or sound 100% well, yet he's working full-time to support her habit and unnecessarily living in the streets to protect her. Yet if he left her tomorrow she'd be with another man in seconds. Bret take care of yourself and do you. Let her get tired of her lifestyle on her own.
She is not able to control her impulses and he is unknowingly enabling her.
Wow
Is he sober ? Did I miss something 🤔
@@mariaremick7320 he is not sober right now but he is able to hold a job. He spent 9 months sober recently but then came back to live with her and started using (is how I interpreted it).
Please, yes! Life is short.
Bret is fed up. His soul is ready to be who he REALLY is now that he has went down both paths. He's ready to chose hisself so he won't die.
Who he really is is gone. He's used since he was 13.
She has already been who she was supposed to be and it wasn't much.
They will die in their addiction unless they have a spiritual awakening.
Both beautiful, capable, intelligent people. Continual drug use permanently damages all 3 of those things. Be blessed. Every day. In all situations. I pray for your salvation which leads to peace and sobriety!
Himself
@@lmla46 what do you mean "she already been who she was suppose to be and it wasnt much?" your msg sounds very condisending.
Couples who have a drug preference in common are often so sooo toxic for each other. It’s so sad. I witnessed it with my mom. Having people around her just because they used the same drug who treated her sooo shitty. She deserved better and I haven’t watched his story yet but I can imagine it’s similar.
Kayla, I am a recovered heroin addict, you've been there as well. Even gone so far as to express the happiness you felt. I don't think I'm going to say anything you don't already know but Bret obviously loves you. So much so that he's standing by you, allowing you to ruin both of your lives. To keep it sweet and simple... piss or get off the pot. Do what's right or let him go live his life!
*In my experience (as an addict and drugs worker) these guys need to go their separate ways if they are to ever get clean and get their lives back. I was in a using relationship like this, with all the messed up dynamics they bring, before a near fatal car crash whilst driving under the influence ended things. As weird as it sounds, that accident probably saved my life as it brought that relationship to an end.*
It doesn't sound weird at all. God tend to allow various things to take place in our lives in order to turn them around for our good. He turns EVERYTHING around for our good and for HIS GLORY.
Run Bret, ruuuuuuuuuuun! Save yourself, put yourself first and don't get dragged down 🙏
Brett, you have such a sweet soul. Please take those supportive words you speak to Kayla to pull yourself out of the life you are leading right now. "You can do better"...
if he was well he would run and go find a,healthy relationship.
Kayla is bringing him down. I wish he would meet someone else.
He needs to leave her
She just loves her stories about how it’s not her fault at all ……….. You have to take responsibility .😢
@@kathleenbrown6734 that's not healthy, either.
My niece has done heroin since she was a teenager. She was always with boyfriends who were always in recovery with her or falling back into drugs with her. She finally has a boyfriend who has never been on drugs and she is amazed at how easy it is to stay clean now. She has a baby with him and is very happy.
Exactly! I don;t think any addict can ever date another addict, even if they found each other while "sober". They will always be waiting for the other to fail to give themselves permission to join them. Happy for your niece!
This was my husband and me 15 years ago. Frustrating and terrifying because it seems like one person seems to “want” it more or helplessly watch one person bring the other one down. It’s easy to vilify one because surely the other would be sober and healthy if not for the other. If only it were that simple. I have no idea why, but my husband and I beat the odds and are 1.) still married lol and 2.) haven’t used drugs or alcohol since 10/2010.
For whatever it’s worth, I was the Brett, and the more people told me to leave my husband, the sicker and more isolated we became.
Praying that they stumble into the perfect storm of recovery soon.
Amazing !
It's codependency. I'm not judging, because I myself am codependent. But if you want to educate yourself more on this topic, that's what this is.
So happy for you, a great achievement no matter how you stumbled upon it.
Bret if you are ready then you must go and get well and be a father to your son.
It's amazing how bad a guy will hurt himself for a woman he loves.
Well said.
Yes. :( I was thinking that, especially towards the end....she will be his down fall. They both seem like genuine people and there's obviously love there. But love ain't enough, as they say. He needs to go back home where he has the support to stay sober. If and when she's ready, she could join him. He needs to focus on his own life and not wait for her.
@@marcellita82 Totally
Obviously I have never been truly loved.
Yea good words man. I've been that guy way too many years and am now single and putting myself first for once.
Save yourself Bret, there’s not a woman in the world who’s worth staying in addiction for, especially not one who is clearly obsessed with herself, using you and unwilling to help herself. All you can ever do is save yourself and hope others follow.
CLEARLY YOU ARE HATING IN HER LOOKS BECAUSE HES ACTUALLY THE ONE WHO has fell off 1st each time.because he finds it easier to get clean when he chooses doesn't make him better.Actually she needs to run and save herself from him so he doesn't drag her back dwn when she does get sober again..
…she’s also a compulsive liar. That cocaine story is absolute bs!
Get rid of her
@@leesabee3I believe her story 100%. There are psychopaths who sabotage people. It happens all the time.
@@leesabee3addicts are liars full stop. They will say anything..
The guy looks so impressed listening to her talk about the other addict she met and stayed with. I'm sure he's heard in 10,000 times.
Bret, you’ve got kind eyes.
I wish you both the best, but my dude don’t let her sink your ship. Go home
Well said!! I so hope he sees these messages and listens!
As a recovering person, been working on getting clean & sober and staying that way since 1988. Got almost 2 decades clean now. In my earnest observation, very few couples get clean together. They waste years hangin' on to each other.
Co-dependency is another addiction.
The end of this interview is so touching. Bret is a good guy and I'm so glad he's been listened to. I hope Kayla has listened too
Bret, saving yourself isn't selfish. Kayla has to save herself. Do what you need to for yourself, your son, your family. Kayla is on her own road, even if you are with her.
Bret, if you read this: Go. Kayla will come, whenever she is ready to.
I agree 💯!! ✔👍
Yes!!
Yes....the path.
Yes.🙏🏻
It's the truth. My hubby was put away for 2.5 years for selling the stuff. When he came home he was done w the lifestyle and wasn't going to put up w it in any form. He stuck it out for a yr as I continued using and lying about it (like he ever didn't know). While he was away, I had lost my baby sister to an overdose in my own house and after already losing both my parents, I lost it. She died from my stash and I found her. Absolute nightmare. After about a year, he said enough was enough. He gave me the opportunity to make a choice and helped get me to an Ayahuasca ceremony, and bless his heart, it absolutely transformed my life and freed me from my past traumas. No rehabs, no programs, not even maintenance drugs... simply the most challenging and productive wknd of my life! Sending so much love to all those still in the struggle! There's so much more to live for. 🤍
Bret run from this woman , you will be replaced because she is using you just like she did. Unfortunately you are either gunna choose your life or follow her to the grave. Your worth it bro RUN and don’t look back !
Brett seems like a good guy. Listening to him plead with Kayla broke my heart! If you can’t get clean for yourself when your significant other is begging you to, you never will.
Its all codependency, very sad to hear and observe.
Absolutely, the end was heartbreaking, she wasn’t even listening properly and clearly has no intention of doing what he’s begging her to do. So selfish
Yes codapendant
come on Brett, she married a guy out of meeting in a parking lot. She is not helping you and your enabling her to stay sick, she will find someone else before you can count to ten. Please reach out to your family, once your well you can help others and thats the greatest gift you can give anyone. Be an example
Her hooking is prob paying for his addiction
@@deerheart87, Probably? … …
😂😂😂
She married Ryan Leone. Another swu interviewee.
Brett, you need to leave this girl before she kills you. Please take care of yourself. I wish the best for Kayla, but she is bringing you down. You have to get sober for yourself. If Kayla wants to get sober than she will follow your lead, but please save yourself before something bad happens. I am sending you both so much love & healing light. ❤🌈
AMEN
Bret's body language when she is going on and on is very telling. She will destroy him and then move on.
Beautifully spoken advice. ❤
It amazes me the lengths an addict will go to lie about not using cocaine
Yes. I’m thinking, “She is just putting pounds and pounds of sugar on this story.” Honey, just admit it…those tests don’t lie…
Bret, I have nothing but good things to say about you. I hope our paths cross again. I remember everything, all the laughs. You’re an awesome person, I’m not the only person that remembers and would be glad to hear from you.
Bless. Hope he gains strength.
Oh stop it you women haters
He stays with her as an excuse to use and be considered a saint simultaneously
I have see this before
@@reelincoln7747I bet you have... in a mirror.
How narcissistic does one have to be to call this comment women hating for simply saying kinds words to the man?
Do all men have to believe in EVERY woman's unparalleled benevolence or be deemed a woman hater?
Is there an update on these two?
Just run from her.. she’s got a story for everything that has wronged her! You sir seem genuine, I hope you find help once and for all ! Prayers🙏🏻
Excuses and justification for every behaviour. When you stop doing that, and see that everything happening in your life is a direct result of your own choices, you begin to heal from addiction.
They are in such denial. And of course none of their lousy lives are some one else's fault.
Jail did not seem to stress him.
Single mothers and their enablers have destroyed the western world. Despicable whores.
Once you are an adult that may be true but when you are a child you are subject to the women’s in choices of other people and government agencies. These experiences have an effect on you add contribute to how you think and thus to the choices you make. Just like a hammer cannot be a screwdriver if a child is subject to enough stresses and bad experiences they may not be able to reform themselves without help.
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I think he knows she's a habitual liar and is so sick of her shit but he's empathic coodependant and she's a manipulative narcasist and a liar.
What an Amazing Man! I hope for you both to get your lives back and know how beautiful life can be. My husband and I are in recovery, he stood by my side just like this waiting for me to come around and he suffered horrendously in silence. You both are amazing human beings, and you can have the life you both deserve. You are both in my thoughts and prayers
Impressed, 2 people willing to own and share the state of their current lives. Every time I watch these videos I am slapped in the face with how different the face of addiction looks. Intelligent, good natured people stuck and controlled by addiction. I truly hope the best for you both. I disagree with "you are not worth shit". Everyone is worthy of respect, love and help. Please accept help, choose to do the work again and again and know that there are people on this earth who hear your story, learn from you and want the best from you. Don't give up. Life is beautiful in its simplicity.
I feel like someone who pisses hot and still denies doing drugs isn't owning anything.
@@amandaschulz833Ding Ding Ding🔔
Brett please put yourself first and get clean and healthy. You will be in a much better head space to help Kayla if she really wants the help. Letting g yourself go downhill to try and protect her from her choices is not the answer
Remember he has family and shes been tossed around Never really feeling love and protection until him! Shes holding on by being sick so he doesn't leave her! She has the most amount of trama...you can see her touching the scar on her face that happened when she didn't have him around and she wasn't subjected to the amount of drugs before him and seen him as a God that paid attention to her! They are both sick, just hope if hes serious out recovery she needs more than Addiction counseling she needs deep therapy from childhood trauma...that would be a good start...and you can see the guilt on his face...because this is were her addiction started...with him! So prayers sent to all🙏❤
Her denial of her history and blaming others is phenomenally massive. I've heard her words and stories so many times it's sickening.
No ROCKBOTTOMS yet for thesr 2.
I've noticed this behavior with addicts. Lying about being sober, being in denial about using, coming up with crazy far fetched stories.
I agree and it kinda hijacked the whole interview- for someone who "doesn't like cocaine" she said "cocaine" at least a hundred times, she also said when the dude asked to kiss her- "so i gave" - then stopped and "kissed" i yhink i know what she gave him and it involved her head
All acts do is lie, their brains are completely fried 🙄
do you know Kayla?
I lost my son In September of this last year because of fentanyl. It started with heroin then when he could find that he went to fentanyl. I will never get over it, I cry everyday and beg to bring him back. I couldn’t save him and it kills me. Drugs effect everyone in your life , and drugs have destroyed ours. I pray for everyone who deals with this. I hope they can dig out of that hole.
So sorry your heart must be broken 💔
Blessings to you
So sorry for the loss of your son. We lost my nephew a year and a half ago to fentanyl and I'm so angry that my sister has to live with this pain for the rest of her life. Addiction is a terrible thing. I hope you and all the mothers who have lost children can find peace and my heart really goes out to you.
So sorry for your loss, I couldn't imagine what you went and are going through, hope life is treating you a bit better 🤍
So sorry. I just lost my step brother two days ago to fentanyl. He was 31. 😢
This is Crazy. I just saw this Guy on the Bus in Soquel, CA ! He kept staring at me and now I ran across this video for No reason whatsoever??? Strange World!
After nearly a year clean off fent I can say this. It hasn't gotten any easier. My people feel better but I do not. I keep waiting for my mind to recover and it is slowly. It's a process. I'm happy I don't have to worry about OD and everything that goes with living they lifestyle. The other side isn't romantic... but it is better. I wish them happienss.
I wish you happiness, too. I hope you begin to feel that things are healing. Enjoy the small things you stopped noticing during your active addiction. My best!!!
Give it more time homie. Congrats to you, be proud of yourself
Stay the course...find a job you can deal with...working around the clock and saving money was my saving grace...second only to my prayers....2.5 years and things aren't perfect, but they're SO much better....proud of you for making it this far!...salute
I’ve lost two sons now to fentanyl, one who overdosed and the other six months ago when he tried to quit by himself. His body was so dehydrated, he suffered heart failure alone in his room. I can’t get that out of my head, he was a beautiful soul my James, they both were, but this loss isn’t healed enough to allow the memories of my son Corey in yet. I raised my kids on my own, I did my best, I never thought this would be my reality. I miss them terribly. I hope you quitting this murderous drug becomes your strength to find the happiness you deserve.
@@sm3296 Bless you. Bless your pain & your struggle. This is one of the saddest things I’ve heard in I don’t know how long. ❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
Bret, I think honestly you can do better. She isn't ready. What happened to her hand and forehead. She is--- misery loves company man. You look unhappy. She basks in her glory stories with her ex-husband while your body language sinks with unapproval. Come on man, do it for you, for your kid, for the person Kayla wishes she could be. But just do it. Time is ticking. Good things await.
“You are such a drug addict!!!” “ He’s abusing meee!!!”
I was just about to type that 😅
Bret, you can do it! Be strong and get your life back
Bret if you read this, you have to help yourself 1st. If Kayla wants to stay in that lifestyle that's on her. You've tried. She's going to pull you down.
If he stays with her hes gonna die
She never should have chosen to hook up with a person who started at the ripe age of 13 & done 6 years in prison
- he is “providing for her / living in a tent - marvelous
Seems to me he's already pulled down. Bless him.
Hope they both get out of the lifestyle. I wish them luck ❤
That's sad that he wants to get clean and live a better life, but she's holding him back. He may have his own mind, yeah, but he loves her, and doesn't want anything bad to happen to her. Too bad that she's not ready too. Prayers for the both of that...that they both make it out alive. 🙏✝💖
This is so sad n***** be a man
@@anthonywilliams7204, go read a book! 😂
I think most of it is he doesn’t trust her alone and doesn’t want to get cheated on…
@@mildred714 ✔
He needs to leave her and put his sobriety first. All she is doing is dragging him down cause she isn't ready. There are plenty of fish in the sea, he will find a healthy relationship.
This one made me cry. I’m not one to comment on TH-cam videos, but this one really got me. Bret- go back to your family. They love you. Your son needs you and you need him. Kayla-Take an honest look in the mirror. You’re a smart woman. Instead of living in the fantasy you’ve created in your mind, be real with yourself. Be real with Bret. He deserves that. You deserve that. My partner and I have been in recovery for 20 years now. You CAN get clean and stable- but you have to want it. It sounds like Bret truly wants it. Don’t be the thing that holds him back- you both have endless potential to THRIVE! Just jump and do it. Get into treatment. We DO recover.
Damn… this one really got to me. I want to grab Kayla and take her somewhere safe, so Bret won’t feel obligated to protect her and he can keep moving forward.
There is SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR! I promise- anyone out there who is struggling- there are resources available for you when you’re ready. There are people who give a shit. I’m here, if you need to talk.
Thank you, SWU, for these beautiful glimpses into peoples lives. What you’re doing is incredible and I’m sure it requires a ton of strength and heart. What you’re doing is so important, in so many ways. You’re needed, and appreciated.
Bret- go home. Right now. This is your sign. Surround yourself with that support and love. Your girl will find her way.
She is a prime example that addiction doesn’t discriminate about who you are or where you came from.
What? She is a prime example of the type trauma that creates addicts. Your comment indicates she came from a healthy background. She didn't.
@@michellehowe1764 stop commenting on here just to argue with people. The original comment was not negative. Do better.
@@nicoled1882 Who are you, the Karen of the comments section? We all have a right to free speech.
@@michellehowe1764 Todos tenemos traumas, muchos somos pobres. En fin.
@@nicoled1882 I dont think her comment was negative. We tend to assume as a society trauma only indicates severe forms or abuse but the womans experience with religion was traumatic.
Sadly, it seems as though she is romanticizing addiction and appears too excited to share her experiences with it, as if it's a vacation she's on. He appears like he is in the throes of it and just wants out.
I can't imagine that staying together will be beneficial for either of their recovery, unfortunately. I wish them both the best.
They reminded me of the couple from The Days of Wine and Roses. Brett's had enough, but from what I'm seeing, Kayla's not ready to quit.
Totally unrelated and less important point but you should watch better call Saul if you like the days of wine and roses
Which is all the more reason he should leave...It's a healthy option for both.
thats why they tell you not to get into a realtionship. kayla isnt a bad person for not being ready. she will be ready but maybe not right now. brett could have a change of mind too and not give a fuck about sobriety tomorrow. thats the confusing thing about it.
God bless you both. Tbh.....best, most genuine, honest, heartfelt & heartbreaking & inspiring addiction/recovery Doco I've ever seen. Been there myself & proudly 8 years clean. I always say there's HOPE for some of my recovery brothers & sisters...& sadly not so much 4 others....but you are both amazing humans who have so much to offer the world & I 🙏 you are both doing great now & are hopefully living your best lives. Sending peace, love, light & strength from WESTERN AUSTRALIA 💙🇦🇺🦘🙏😘
Am I the only one who spent the entire video trying to figure out Kayla’s hair?
🤣🤣🤣no lol
Same here
It crossed my mind but now I'm seriously investigating it ( reading comments while watching)
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@@dollysee and the big scar on her right chin.
I really appreciate that they respected each other’s voice In This interview. I’m rooting for you two! I really hope the best for you
Bret, RUNNN. She only cares about herself!
Yeppers
Yeah listen to her!
But he’s in love. 👀
He’s no catch either.
The disease of addiction is no joke. I hear what you’re saying her stories never change in my experience you need to separate and do your own programs. It’s super hard when you’re in addiction together. Good luck to you guys. God bless.
oh man! So sad to see lives ruined by drugs. Bret needs to GET AWAY from Kayla and turn his life around. I have faith in him! Kayla is definitely holding him back. Prayers for both of them to do better!
I hope both Kayla and Bret can find the strength and perseverance to leave this sad lifestyle behind! I feel that in someways Bret enables her by working each day to support her habits. Bret needs to leave and return to his family until he can get on his feet. Hopefully Kayla will wake up before it’s to late. Best wishes ❤
What they need is Clonedine to help them wean off the Fentanyl. As a former cancer patient I'm going through this myself and I finally got help from the system through the use of drugs that remove the worst withdrawal effects. Even with help it takes bloody forever and is a total b to kick this thing.
@@TheBanterBandit he better move to EUROPE.
At the obiden crime families resort for drug addicted first family members
@@Love-on7vv your far to BRAINEY i bet and well travelled.
@@TheBanterBandit Good luck dear soul! I hope you're healing in every way! 🤍💜💛
Codependency is an addiction also.
4 sho deadly
You GENIUS.
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Who cares
@@happyhannah680 ⁰
My husband and I were both addicts when we met. We got clean after 10 years, and then years later we are still clean. And now I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Lol. We are still together.
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Can we get updates?! Such Sweet Souls! Addiction is a brutal disease & I pray we continue to destigmatize it. People say, "It's a choice!" Not that simple. If your body is so wracked in pain that you want to die, do you refuse relief? (Not that simple, either.) This doc: brilliant editing! That Kayla is gorgeous! Bret seems so kind. I want them to succeed! TY uploader/creator!
My brother died of an overdose 7 days ago. I’m so devastated.please get clean it’s not worth it. He was only 33. Your days are numbered and you better believe it
Also my brother was 4 years clean and he relapsed. It killed him
Prayers for all of us. Blessings.
I am so very sorry to read this. May your brother find God’s unconditional love and acceptance in Heaven. I pray for his Soul to heal and infinitely grow.
@@gollbach-cardenas5605 thank you so much I’m just devastated. He was such a loving person I feel so bad he felt the need to relapse. I know he’s free of this mental prison but I miss him so much it hurts 😢
My sister just died in October, sorry for your loss 💔
Man you guys could be a beautiful couple with a beautiful life. I see greatness in both of you, always remember this; "we are the master of our own destiny". I over came addiction been clean over 4 years now there's programs guys, get in and work them, it's a journey but ever so worth it. I believe in you both!
R.I.P Ryan. HIs story in mind-blowing. If you followed him[ He's abusing me]. Kayla was part of that storyline.
Yes!!
I remember Ryan’s episodes w her, I was so curious. Where their apt was I used to live around there.
I really hope Kayla and Brett can get clean and have a good life together. They seem like really nice people deep down. I wish the best for them both. Good luck guys.
She swears she wasn’t using cocaine. She was definitely using cocaine…
Congrats mark on 4M subs milestone!!!!
The way an addicts hands look is always heartbreaking to me. I’m not sure why but it always grabs my attention. I have a couple of friends I grew up with that are literally on the streets addicted today. Addiction is a heartbreaking, evil disease. Sure hope they reach their goal of sobriety!❣️
I noticed that, too. What is it with the hands?
I've been listening for a long while & this interview I find is one of the most interesting ones. Luv ur work.
She’s frustrating.
She really seems fine with her situation. So sad. Her boy is probably really hurting not having his mother.
She laughed about “needing to get her butt in gear”.
Doesn’t sound like she’s bummed out about the path she’s on. This poor guy is tired of their lifestyle.
The kids are the ones who truly suffer! I feel sorry for her kid however thankfully his Father is involved.
When she had him she put him thru way more suffering. All you have to do is listen to Leone's Doomed marriage series and if even a fraction of it is true then she is an abusive horrible person and a pathetic excuse for a mother.
Brett obviously loves her and wants to be with her otherwise he would have fucked off.
Her laugh at getting her butt in gear was more of a nervous kind of laugh understatement of the year she's probably laughing at.
@@adamoconnor1277I listened to it. The years haven’t been kind to Kayla. She spiraled.
I love that little conversation they had at the end. I hope they come back and talk when they get sober
I pray that this couple can find peace in life and love themselves and can break the chains of addiction.
Best wishes for both, hopefully you can overcome this difficult path!! 🙏🙏 never it’s too late!!
Kayla's story really doesn't make sense. If an addict has drugs they're going to use them or sell them, I can't imagine someone going to that extent to frame their housemate. Coke is expensive... She seems to look back very fondly on her using days which isn't good in recovery. I hope they can get better and that she can finally (unfortunately) reach her rock bottom so she'll be ready to take recovery seriously. It was sad to hear her say too "as crazy as brett sounds, he is actually one of my better boyfriends", he doesn't sound crazy? He sounds like he has it really together given the circumstances. I would be so hurt to be referred to like that by my partner.
Self delusion is the most powerful drug there is
So true.
What I can't wrap my brain around is they aren't children and should have known there are consequences with drugs of that nature. Not for nothing but as a teen in the 70's we knew to stay away from certain drugs, a no brainer
@@GoFarFarAway. they must think they can try it and not want to do it again and then get addicted. When I see addicts it’s upsetting to me, I’m not judging..I feel sorry for them but recently I ended a relationship that was abusive and for 2.5 years he bully’s me and people don’t understand that I can call the police but if he denies he slashes my tires they can’t do anything. When I have proof I got a restraining order. When I get stressed a few people have accused me of being an addict. I passed SEVEN drug tests..if one more person that claims to be my family/friend and still doesn’t believe me then I don’t want those people in my life. I’m 44 and I do not look my age. People ask me if my son is my brother. People on drugs usually look like they are on drugs. People stressed from being bullied, alienated from their child, stolen from, strangled, thrown around like a rag doll, held against my will and yea sometimes I go back anyway because my son lives there, he got a partial scholarship to a college close by his fathers house. His father pays the rest. Used my name to run a business and didn’t pay the taxes and the constant fighting and lawyers it’s stressful. It hurts my feelings because I feel like nobody wants to acknowledge that I’m stuck with this bully stalker asshole that nobody can control so they pretend it’s not happening and I must be on drugs. I don’t even like drugs. I’m old. I take Xanax a prescription I get from my doctor who rarely prescribes Xanax. I have extreme anxiety. I have since I was a child, when my life is calm, and I have my sleep and diet right I don’t need it. I was off anti depressants and Xanax for years. I think learning to live sober would be hard after being an addict..I have sympathy..I understand, but nobody seems to understand my situation. People think if my face isn’t beat and I have money then everything is fine. I’ll go poor buying tired, I put a camera and it disappeared..some shadowing figure..one of his stupid friends I’m sure. It’s stressful for a mother to have know that she has to leave her life and son and go hide just for peace. All by myself. A few years ago I looked so healthy and stress free but I wasn’t..I had been hiding it, I felt like I was drowning. Stress takes a toll but it is a completely different look. Everyone can eat shit for accusing me instead of recognizing that I was in need of help. Idiots
Best interview I have watched on this channel. They are honest, good morals (for addicts), intelligent, self educated, good looking. Don't feel depressed after watching this one, masochist that I am to keep watching.
She holds him back. And the story about the photographer and cocaine is a lie.
100% a lie
How do you know?
@@ettvanligtkonto I agree!!
Ya think?
Yeah the body language screamed "I'm lying"
@@julieann4616 Body language and common sense
Dissociative Amnesia or False Memories are a common phenomenon where people recall having a great childhood, despite evidence to the contrary once given a safe space to dig deeper. Daniel Mackler has a great video on youtube describing False Memories. I've been noticing this often on SWU. Thank you, Mark, for your contribution to society.
That's interesting. I just saw an interview with Mila Kunis saying she cried everyday when she was 7 and migrated to the US but she doesn't remember at all so in her eyes the change of countries wasn't a hard thing but she says her parents would say otherwise... makes sense now
Thx sooo much for sharing all of this you two, and originator.
Listening to this im so grateful I got clean...
Proof that a addict partner will bring you down. It’s a lonely road folks…
Kayla just talk talk talk .. She is all about her . I hope Brett wakes up and get clean . She is not ready at all . He looks miserable .
Haven’t finished the video but I love how he is just deeply listening to her
This is a perfect example of unmanageability. For anyone who is curious about the insanity that comes with this disease should watch this. I have compassion for both of them they're so sick and they don't even know it
They’ll make it. I believe if they really love each other then they’ll do what needs to be done. I’m glad she’s with a good guy who doesn’t want anything to happen to the women he loves. So he’s staying waiting for her to say okay let’s go and him to say okay I’m with you. I’m rooting for you two. Brake the cycle get sober together out of Cali 🤞🏽🤞🏽
the chances of 2 addicts getting sober and staying together are zero. Sorry that is a fantasy, get sober and live,
I hope these interviews reach a lot of people to give them understanding of addiction, abuse and mental illness. We need more mental health clinics available.
Bret. Run. Save yourself at least. I really hope he reads this or hears us saying this to him.
It's sad because he sounds ready to get his life together and she's holding him back. He deserves better and will eventually regret the time wasted with her.
Bret look after you.... save yourself
The dynamic of this pair is stereotypical and kinda funny. She’s ultra chatty and he can be when he can get a word in edgewise. I was in Hazelden rehab for three months and they strictly forbid us from even talking to the opposite sex. But there was one group I was in where I was the only male amongst ten or so women. At the start of every group (not just this mixed group I was in) we’d go around the room from patient to patient and had to tell the group how we were feeling. In a group of thirty men, this took maybe three minutes and we’d actually pass around a sheet as it came our turn that contained a bunch of “feeling” words. Angry, confused, melancholy, etc. We’d read off a word and pass it on. In the mixed group, I remember one day looking at my watch realizing we were fifteen minutes in and only three women had finished saying how they were feeling. 😂
Mark I feel like your interviews with couples can tend to be a bit awkward, as one will typically dominate the conversation and the other barely says a word. This interview on the other hand had an excellent flow, pace, it seemed Bret and Kayla were giving each other the floor when appropriate!
I agree and it's because they allowed that to happen. I found that beautiful!
I’ve noticed this also. I’m curious if it’s a bit of a reflection of the dynamic the couple has in their regular lives outside of the interview. They have respect for each other ❤️
I think that that is a consequence from this style of interviewing. Mark has chosen to take a step back and let the interview subjects take the lead. The dynamic between the couple is part of their story.
Couples interviews are my favourite.
This is super codependent and sad. Bret PLEASE get out of this situation. PLEASE get better for YOU!!!! She does not love you!!!! You were sick and left to get yourself better and she couldn’t stay faithful to you while you were getting better or be there for you??? She will have another man supporting her habits by tomorrow morning!!!!
Dynamics are so nuanced, problematic and complex in drug relationships. It's always in the back of one another's minds, if you would even know one another without the drugs. The physical and emotional need for drugs overshadows and slowly tarnishes the most real and beautiful of love stories. I genuinely wish them both all the best. I've been in their exact situations... and it's so incredibly torturous, cyclic and hard. There IS a way out.. and you are best making that 'way out' recovery.. or it will 100% be institutions, prison or death 💔💔
It always strikes me how much addicts lie, and the crazy thing is they think people actually believe them.
Like Kayla's failed drug test story???🤯
When i started watching this, i glanced at the comments. I wondered why everyone was telling him to get away from her. After watching the whole thing......Oh Lord....RUUUNNN. It would've been nice to hear from him a bit more and her a bit less.
Kayla, stop it! My head is spinning
I hope Bret and Kayla's children don't end up on here talking about how their parents had a hand on their life's problems and dysfunction. Generational curses.
Spot on
They have kids?
Bret has an 18 yr old son
@@shelleysedwick ^^
@@shelleysedwick Kayla has a son roughly about 15 or so, she abandoned him years ago
I hope you guys got sober together & are living a happy life together..life is doable without drugs!Good Luck from Australia 🇦🇺 👊☮️❤️
I wish Ryan was able to do the commentary to this
She’s using because she doesn’t want to face her pain. He’s ready to face his. He’s stronger. Her beauty has leverage over him though, but He struggles with low self esteem and can’t pull away
She obviously thinks she’s the more interesting one of the two of them, but she’s not.
As a recovering addict I’m pulling for them . Especially Brett. He seems like he stays in a miserable situation out of the love her has for Kayla , I’ve been there and it almost killed me . Hope he leaves her and finds happiness
Everybody has their own journey to go on in life and especially in recovery.
If people are not 1010% on the same page in their recovery.....it just, well, doesn't work.
Someone once told me that every person in our life has a season. Maybe it's many seasons, most will come and at some point...go.
I have my own experience with addiction and recovery. I have had many people come and almost always go....in my lifetime.
I see a disconnect between these two that definitely jumps through their individual perceptions and through the camera in a very short amount of time.
I hope these two find a way to live the rest of their lives happy and healthy. Whatever that looks like for each of them.
As always, these videos are hauntingly beautiful in their cautionary tales. Soft White Underbelly has some of the best content on this platform!
Much light and love to each life you touch by allowing them to tell their stories through your lense.
❤❤ from Alaska-- Danielle
cannot imagine her without bleach blond hair and he looks like hes heard this 100 times before.
Hope you both make it. You aren't as far down as many we see on here xx
Prayers for them both. Would love a follow up to see how well they have come along.
Agreed. I would LOVE to see a follow up- but interview them each separately. I hope they are doing well.