Overpowered canoe flips near Deep Water
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I sink my coleman scanoe going 11 mph in 6 inches of water at low tide in the upper Ashley River in Charleston.
Don't do what I did! ...Sinking a Canoe with Outboard
#colemanscanoe #boatingaccidents #bigrip
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Dude, thank you for posting this. Really, really sorry you had to go through this. I just put money down on a canoe I am buying and will be fishing with. Planning on adding a motor and will use your lessons to avoid making the same mistakes. You are a good man for sharing what had to be an extremely embarrassing experience. Blessings on you and may your angling life be better.
Just use a trolling motor, no need for a petrol engine.
Thank you for being willing to share, for being real, and humble in this situation.
most important
to show fails
ego has no place on the waters..
so this guys sound
Great video,
Thanks for sharing. You may save someone's life with this video. That thing went down quick!
Thanks for sharing. I just bought a used Scanoe with an electric trolling motor and had planned on putting a gas powered outboard on it. You just changed my mind.
Crazy scary bro!!! Glad you made it out safely!!! Materal things can be replaced. Definitely a learning experience. Be safe out there
Hate this happened to you BUT - Props for manning up, owning it, learning from it, and then - sharing. :) My main takeaway/advice - Learn To Swim!!!
I'm a fellow Lowcountry small boater, just up the coast in G'town.
Thanks for sharing my friend. I did lots of single handed blue water sailing and yachting in my younger years. Safety first was always a focus. Now, many years have gone by living far from coast and waterways. I recently got a little property near a big lake and a river where I will make my summer cabin project. Starting to looking into motorized canoes and small boats and ran into this video. So easy to omit the security measures with small boats in shallow waters, I feel like something like this could happen to me too in spite all my experience (or worse, having kids on board and risking somebody getting chopped by that motor, don't even want to think about that). Smooth sailing to disaster in a second. Easy to forget to be humble, taking time to get to know the boat and to have a security first mindset. So a very appreciated video, an important reminder to us all regardless of experience level.
Great video. Thanks for posting.
this is an important video. it shows what mild shock looks like. and how panic decisions can make things worse. in this case thankfully only gear loss
I now this is old but props for sharing. No pun intended lol. Manned up and shared the lessons learned. Ty.
Hey Jrod, Thanks for posting this. I'm from Summerville and fish the same areas you do. I also use a canoe. 16.5ft. 1974 Lowe canoe that I restored with a 3Hp E-propulsion motor. Glad you were not hurt! after watching this I started to figure out how I can secure more things in the canoe better so not to float off. I do use a big cooler that I strap down in the middle of the canoe that well also help in floating the canoe if it tries to sink. I do need to come up with something to pump the water out. Maybe all run in to you some time when it's not so hot out there. Thomas
Thanx for the video, keep lovin bro
I really needed to see this... thank you for posting. I regular the salt water in my square stern canoe... anything can happen!
Thanks for sharing this. I got a Ram X Scanoe from a buddy of mine and now just starting out to get it set up and deciding on which power to use ( electric or gas outboard) I like the speed and the 4hp seems the best fit I didn't realize it would push the boat too fast, so thanks for sharing your experience.
have to add another thank you comment! thank you for posting this! probably saving people some big headaches and probably even a life! Adding those tips to my list!
Thanks for having the courage and concern for others to share this. I am sorry for your incident but thankful you weren't physically hurt.
I am just starting out boating ( 14 foot Jon boat with 15 hp motor) and am concern with the objects inbour creeks and rivers. I may go Longtail set up but am just researching more.
Your video made me think about alot of things.
Sorry again but thanks for sharing.
come up to Canada and Ill teach ya how to swim....and thanks for the video, as a fellow canoe motorer I really appreciated your heads up advice
Wow, so sorry that happened to you. I noticed a square stern canoe for sale near me, so I was looking for information about them and thinking about purchasing. Your video really shows what can happen quickly.
Thanks for sharing. A lot of us can learn some lessons from it.
Glad to see you made it out no worse for wear. It could’ve been a much different story.
Keep the videos coming!
😮 wow, thanks for sharing.
You need an expandacraft outrigger attachment. Try it, saved mine from sinking.
I just picked up a cut back canoe a couple weeks ago I appreciate the advice
Dang dude! Glad you are ok. What a story.. giving me second thoughts on adding a motor mount to my canoe.
Thanks for sharing this experience. Man trade that outboard out for a 3 to 5 horse beaver tail or surface drive. They are much better suited for really shallow water. There are several companies that make kits that work with the small engines from Harbour Freight. They are reasonably priced also.
wow, thank you for sharing. You are saving lives. i will be picking up a 16' scanoe and I thought the foam in the nose and tail were supposed to help keep it afloat or at least not let it sink so quickly. There are some videos if others replacing that foam in those two chambers. Besides outriggers I will also try to think of ways to add some more floation to the hull. thanks again and glad you are ok
Just got a 12ft Jon and a 5hp Colman outboard. Can't wait to get it in the water but been watching vids to make sure I don't stuff it though lol nice vid btw
Dang. Thanks for showing us your lessons learned. I just added a 6hp to my coleman. I have the killswitch tethered and I don't have the knob tightened to keep the throttle in place. I'm going to keep it that way after seeing your video.
Been looking at putting a side mount 2.5 on my 17" Coleman RAM-X, thanks for posting this honest experience. I wanna go with a nice trolling motor and 2 lithium batteries but the cost for those batteries is steep, but I'd also like to do solar/trolling motor for a long Yukon river trip. It's probably best to save my money. I'm doing the MR340 canoe race this summer across Missouri and we'll try a small solar setup and 2 20ah lithium's and a chart plotter. Let me know if you have any advice! Thanks, Chris S.
I always stuck by the principle of don't take too much stuff, especially if you are not wiling to loose it. And if you have stuff you don't wanna loose get 5 gal buckets and buy those screw top lids for them. And anything that is worth putting in a waterproof bag/ container is worth putting in 2, or 3, or them. And tie and lash everything, they make large reusable zip ties and those Nite Ize Gear Ties are great too walmart has them and grab some paracord.
I lipped a whitewater kayak once being stupid but got lucky, only lost my phone wallet everything except my keys somehow, everything flowed out of my pockets. Now I hide them with my vehicle or tie/clip them to my belt on a long paracord and in the pocket or a pouch.
Respect for posting this video.
I also run a 5hp 4stroke on a 17ft aluminum square back canoe.
I use MSR 30oz aluminum fuel bottles to fill the built in outboard tank throughout the day.
Sit in the back of the boat while underway, can use some “workout sand bags” on the floor up front and fill them with river water as ballast weight nice and low. I have also been told “Toss in a bucket of rocks”
Stay safe and catch fish 😁
There's a guy in town that attached pontoons on his canoe. Like an outrigger setup. He's got a little 2.9HP on the back. He
shits n gets up and down the lake. 👍 Seems to work well. Awesome video.
Thanks for sharing this, i am new to motor-canoeing and looking to learn all i can. I went to the hardware store last night and got 2 sheets of XPS foam insulation, and i'm going to use that to make some flotation blocks for the inside of my canoe. My motor and batteries weigh about 50lb, so i used aquarium tank math to determine the dimensions of a foam block i'd need to displace 50lbs of water, thus keeping the canoe afloat if i capsize or swamp it. There are ready-made flotation bags though that the whitewater cats use, they fit neatly up into the bow. The problem with that, for motor canoes, is that we usually have ballast up from to keep the bow down, and we need the stern area clear for our gear.
Glad your good thanks for sharing the experience
Thank you for this. It takes a lot to post something like this, especially when you go back and give a play by play of what happened.
I have two square sterns and they're great boats but you've got to respect them or they'll get away from you quickly. I've never had anything happen that was quite as dramatic as your video, but there's been several "man that was stupid, why did i do that" moments over the years.
I'd be thinking of lashing pool noodles to the edge of the canoe kinda like a Sportspal has foam along the sides. Glad you came out ok
That was a rough trip. I made outriggers for our 16ft. canoe and that definitely stabilizes it. Tying off a plastic coffee can to bail water is good to have on board.
Just watched the video all the way through slamming door and lesson learned for sure glad your okay and hopefully you will buy a flat bottom jon
And the video before this was " the worlds fastest square stern." LOL Hey, I'm sure glad you're OK and I appreciate you making this video...it's a great reminder for the rest of us to be safe in our small scanoes. Looking forward to future vids. New sub.
Hahaha thanks brother a little exaggeration nerve hurt no body 😂
Why is it that so many blacks don't know how to swim ? Back in my day Australia 1960s all first year primary students had to learn to swim whether they liked it or not !
I'm sure that motor stopped on its own because water got inside it > expensive repair bill $$$.
I have a Suzuki 2.5 has heaps of power for a canoe God knows why he picked the 4 HP ?
i use an outrigger on my canoe which makes it much harder to capsize, even if you fall in the water getting back in is easy,
however it does impede the performance of the outboard somewhat, i think the tradeoff is worth it. More haste, less speed 🙂
Great vid. What a nightmare.
Man at least you are here to tell us about it
What a video you stay so calm…
Good to see your ok.
What tiller handle extension are you using?
thank you for sharing,
Do you think if your tiller extension didn’t have that pivot point that it would have changed anything? Looks like when it started hopping the engine turned and the pivot point made it stuck in one direction.
Yes the pivot in the extension tiller definitely did not help the situation lol
Don’t feel too bad man. There are those that have and those that will flip a scanoe. 😂
Dry bags are a great tool to keep your important stuff dry and afloat! Sorry to see that happening to you!
Praise God man. As you said, “Thank you Jesus.” Amen
Thanks for posting! I guess a canoe can be dangerous.
Thank you Sir for sharing this lesson! It's good seeing a fine man helping our brotherhood!
Semper Fi
He overloaded the Canoe over powered it he had so many things wrong going against him this isn't an aluminum boat. People think Kayaks or canoes just because it floats now they can go next to a cargo ship and put a 40HP outboard on it lucky he wasn't in a bigger lake. thanks for sharing it will educate people also always wear your vest guys. No matter how deep it is.
damn bro. that's spooky as hell.
First off, glad you're good to fish another day. I'd have cried losing all that gear. You handled that a lot better than most of us would've.
Did you have the outboard locked in place?
I've heard a lot of guys who use this same scanoe/outboard setup keep their motor mounts unlocked in case of hitting/bumping shallow water or underwater obstructions.
It was definitely locked and is precisely why everything went hay wire lol
@@TallFisherJ good lesson learned lol I just bought a 16' scanoe with the sole intention of using it with my 4hp Mercury as a river rig. I'll be sure to keep it unlocked! 👍
Yep that engine needs to be able to Pivot. upwards,
plus use a large drysack
filled with water for up at the front, to help keep the bow down.
and it just shows how a slight bit of speed make the craft very unstable
and how things go southside IN SECONDS.
and it's really really
luckily he learned in slow shallow waters..
GET A GOOD 'NRS' PFD🦺👍
Perfect
Like the attitude.....hope you got a new motor and found your keys...
Ouch! Yeah the motor is your friend until its not!
😆😦
If you were clipped to the safety this wouldn't have gone this way!
Carabiners are a great thing.
Also, a hand bilge pump is handy.
Ahhh does the canoe have any flotation built into it , it went down quick, I had a 16’ canoe that had air chambers at each end it wouldn’t sink , bummer losing all that gear , it could have been worse it could have been in really deep water , might wanna upgrade to a small boat?
It actually had foam in the front and back when this happened… I’ve taken it out since because obviously it doesn’t help lol
I have been using scanoes since 1982. Yeah I'm old. It's not that your over powered. It's because of you sitting in the middle. You should be back where the motor is. And put enough ballist up front to make the boat ride flat. Glad you're okay. Learn to boat correctly that was very risk way to run your boat. And you paid for it. Big time!
Nice to see you were more worried more about the value of the things you were losing than the water contamination that immediately caused lol..
Dude, I roll a Nissan 3.5HP short shaft on my 1990's Dark Green Scanoe. You gotta be careful with that HP, but they can handle up to 5hp. Mine would go 15mph downstream/13mph upstream. Made a custom super long tiller handle out of a lawnmower handlebar, made all the difference
If you want a fox for the pump system, buy a low gpm water pump that will run on your battery you keep on the bot. Just use alligator clips. Can use a small hose too. They’re available fairly cheap
Thanks for sucking up your ego and sharing this video. This is great for people to see... great lessons and reminders.
Is that is a 4hp? Was thinking of putting a 6 on a smaller canoe until I saw this
Hi, thanks for sharing. I really hate canoes. I fell out of them a view times also. They are the most balance sensible watercraft's I know of. In this case the motor took en hit and and came under an angle en pushed de canoe out of balance.
how much hp?
Did you wear a life vest?
I'm sorry for your loss.
I have a Pond Prowler 10, and I put a Hangkai 12hp on it. , fast as hell. I love that boat because it can't sink.
Dude sorry that happened,,we're u standing? I picked up a Colman and a lil 3.5 hatsu,,i sunk my old town in the Delaware using a side mountain 3 hp gamefisher,,lol,, I got a rotty also..peace
Be careful. I flipped a canoe with a 2.5hp Suzuki outboard. I was told by a NASA engineer that my canoe was not supposed to exceed 5 MPH, I didn't believe him and hoped to get 10 MPH out of it, But he was right. Once it exceeds 5 MPH it comes up out of the water, its no longer a canoe, and no longer stable. From then on, I always keep it weighted down in the front, and don't let it plane.
I love a NASA engineer 🤓 couldn't hold ya back from taking it from a canoe🛶 to a Rocket 🚀🤗😃🤣🤣
and yep
using a Large drysack bag filled with water, up front to keep the nose down( ish) 😶😏🤪😜 .
and God's slower speeds be with you...💨🤘🤙🤟👌🤣
I’ve only been through this scenario once, that was almost 40 years ago , I know the loss and personal pain.
Sorry that happened to you, so glad I just paddle my Canoe. "Path of the Paddle" by bill mason is completely free and available on youtube and a great resource to learn how :) It's very stealthy and very satisfying
Good lesson to share, it could have been much worse but the Lord not ready for ya yet
boats and motorcycles don't give a shit what YOU want....they can be brutal taskmasters
Flip the side switch on your outboard so it can flip up if it hits bottom and always be prepared to cut throttle
Could you not flip it to empty the water, at least when you were back on land?
that throttle extension ...
I have the same boat and tried a 2hp gas outboard. I really wanted it to work but it was overpowered and unstable. Now I have a 36lbs electric. Even that dinky little motor can flip the boat if you set it too deep and turn hard in some chop. I keep it just below the hull and at WOT it will do about 5mhp which is NOT what I wanted. But it's all that boat will do safely.
I agree. They can go fast, doesn’t mean you should… lol
Hard lesson to learn but i bet you'll always teather your gear from now on
I was thinking that stretch of river was really familiar.. My house is back up in that small creek on your right side where you splashed yourself into the drink at. I have a discovery sport 15 with 6hp Merc and I'm out there fishing all the time too. Shoot me a message sometime and maybe we can meet up and catch some fish!
Haha alright brother will do!
I feel so bad for you buddy that was really hard to watch.. At least you were OK what about the motor did it take on Water
Takes a bigger man to own up to a mistake.good lesson
I had a buddy flip a canoe moose hunting . Guys been running the creeks and rivers for 20+ years , anyhow he hit a stump one morning and flipped his canoe/2hp motor . We had to go find him later that day when he never came back for dinner . Always be ready for the worse .
I dont know anyone, unless they are sadistic or a gluten for punishment, that would post this video. I sure wouldnt, at least until many years later like maybe on my headstone epithet " you know the DASH between the year born and the year I died ". he he he. I'd be too embarrassed. Or maybe just wouldnt want people to ask me about one of my biggest screw ups. I definitely must say Kudos to you for doing so. That shows real BRASS.
Glad you're okay. What about putting outriggers on your canoe.
I think everyone who has been boating has made mistakes at one time or another. Thank God You lived to learn from it. Canoes are not really designed for motors and a very small one if you use one. Yeah tie everything together and to the boat. Have a blessed one.
Should have got a Radisson Sportspal.
Dang
What size shaft for the scanoe?
My Suzuki is a short shaft and it sits nicely on the scanoe
if you were sitting closer to your motor, you would have had enough time to react to that by slowing and tilting the motor which should have prevented this from happening! Imagine that happening in a larger vessel going faster.. you need to always be prepared for these things to happen, and if you don’t know the waters well or if there’s a chance of hitting rocks or logs, proceed with caution.. could end catastrophic at higher speeds you were lucky! Thankyou for posting this, hopefully others can learn from this
"Thank you Jesus"!
Man, scary how it happens out of nowhere, in such flat water.
What was the size of the Motor?
4 hp
I almost die when i first buy a Coleman canoe in icy water in north of Canada .
Trust me u need a Sportspal .
Don't lock down the tilt on the outboard. It needs to be free to kick up if you hit bottom or a log.
Yikes! I wanted something like this for me and my daughters. Guess it’s not stable enough
Brother what happened was you hit a log submerged in the water or drug the bottom and you were using the extension without a Killswitch you have to understand your in a small boat and any simple mistakes could flip a canoe invest in a flat bottom Jon brother thank you for sharing be safe out there
Glad to see you were not hurt but a canoe was never meant to be used like that people should stop pushing the limits of water craft. If a person want's a bass boat get a bass boat.
If I had an outboard on mine I wouldve put outriggers for stability
i took my friend canoeing and we just got in the river and i really didn’t expect to capsize be i have experience and i thought i had a handle on it but it happened 30 minutes after getting on the river. our river was a little faster. i had to swim as fast as i could to catch the paddles and as much gear as i could get and my friend swam the canoe to shore. the swimming part was so exhausting that i had to take a nap right afterwards. then our gear was wet we lost anyway to make a fire we lost our shoes and most of our food and water and fishing gear and froze that night and then finished the hundred miles. the part we started on was the easiest part but we didn’t even come close to tipping again after because my friend did something kind of dumb which caused it and i had zero warning so that one experience was super unexpected but sure did wake me up. i wasn’t wearing my life jacket it was under my seat so the sheriffs wrote me a $300 ticket when we were loading up to leave. i had i good time but i felt bad because i invited my friend who i hadn’t seen in like a decade to do something i like to do and i got him a plane ticket and then tried to drown him starve him freeze him dehydrate him make him paddle his butt off baked him in the sun and made him walk around with no shoes…. his phone got destroyed. i kept trying to make a fire because i couldn’t sleep because i was so cold and i got an ember five times but no fire because everything i could find was wet and it was pretty bare around there so it was difficult to find anything except bits of grass. i’ve always thought i could make a survival fire by hand if i needed to and the one time i needed to i kept failing over and over…. but i had fun. something that helped us out is that i had a rope with a carabiner on each end clipped to the front and the back of the canoe and my friend had his life jacket so he was able to use the rope to help him pull it to shore and i ended up about a mile down river from the accident so i walked back barefoot and he already had the canoe out of the water.
I wanna do this with my kyak I’ve bought a 2 hp Johnson outboard