The fact that the consequent destruction of the 2nd Temple, which was destroyed in 70 AD, is not even alluded to anywhere in the New Testament, proves that the Gospels and the entire New Testament was written within 30 years of Jesus' death. One of Jesus' most descriptive prophecies, described the complete destruction of the Jewish Temple. Considering the dedication of His followers, if they had been writing after the destruction of The Temple, they would at the very least alluded to the actual consequent destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Also the fact that Rome's war against the Jews & Israel which began in late 65 AD, is not mentioned when discussing the history of the early church, is also more than enough abundant proof that the New Testament was composed and completed within 10-30 years of Jesus' death.
Paul's writings occurred prior and the gospel stories are about events that occured prior. Why would the gospels mention the actual destruction? Mark's entire story alludes to the destruction of the temple as if the new cult is an answer to it.
@@downshift4503 Three of the four gospels refer to Jesus' prophecy regarding The Temple's destruction: Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. I find it rather strange that anyone would even ask, "Why would a gospel author refer to it, if they had witnessed it prior to completing their writing?" The entire purpose of their writing was that others might believe, and what better confirmation that Jesus was the prophet/messiah they had been waiting for for millennia than fulfilled prophecy? John 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
@@blackeyedturtle Sure, it's very easy for Mark (and later authors copying Mark) to put those words into Jesus mouth implying that he was prophesying future events and as you say, this encourages anyone reading the story that this character was the messiah. Note that Paul, writing before the destruction of the temple, seems to know little about Jesus life and ministry that Mark would later write, never mind Jesus forecasting the temple will be destroyed.
@@downshift4503 A man as well educated and informed as Shaul, spent 14 years studying the life and ministry of the Messiah before he himself became an Apostle of The Gospel. You obviously know very little of what you are talking about.
You'd be hard-pressed to find a LEGITIMATE historical scholar who says He didn't exist! Edit: to the anti-God people. (Who will either have zero response or seek to shift my point to another topic/angle) Which has more "proof" and "scientific" process behind it? "Primordial Soup" or Jesus, Soup or creation by intelligence?!
It is not a black-or-white issue. Many accept that Jesus existed as a historical fact, and others will say that Jesus likely existed but acknowledge that the evidence is often second or third-hand claims and should be considered with scepticism. Very few assert that Jesus probably didn't exist and I am not aware of any that claim he didn't. Unlike other historical figures, the existence of Jesus is not necessary to explain any physical evidence. The existence of Aristotle and Plato are the same. History loses nothing if they are not real people. Tiberius Caesar, on the other hand, is required to explain physical evidence.
depends what you mean by "didn't exist". If Clark Kent existed it does not follow that stories of Superman are true (ie that Superman existed). Christians don't believe in the Clark Kent version of Jesus. They believe in the Superman version.
The lady of Rogan's show is mistaken: The Gospel of John tells us the 'bath at the colonnade" IS there - present tense. The writer of the Gospels took for granted that Jerusalem hadn't been destroyed, so Joh nm was written prior too the destruction of Jerusalem AD 70.
Not even that the early church creeds are 0-2 years after Jesus and establish high christology from the start, the narrative never evolved. They give us deity, death and resurrection of Jesus. These people that try to pretend the mention of him is only a century later are absurd.
Another "hard point" in history is Pauls' execution by the Romans in 64 or 65 AD. So he had to write all the Pauline Epistles before then. And the book of Acts never mentions Pauls death; it leaves us hanging with him imprisoned in Rome. It would be very, very odd for Luke to leave out that event had it been written after the fact.
There's so much eye witness testimony of the life of Christ that if we are going to write off the gospels alone we can scrap any documented ancient figure.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Two of the disciples were witness to his life and existence. John was witness to the actual event of his crucifying. 12 were executed by horrible deaths. .
The skeptics would have you believe that they know that nothing supernatural can happen, so the claims of miracles must all be part of a larger coverup. But you are correct--Did Abraham Lincoln exist? Dunno, I didn't see him.
@@spikenomoon Keep in mind that basically no NT scholar believes that the Gospel of John was written by John. There are many reason for this, some obvious some less so, have you never looked into this? These are people who spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc.
@@TurinTuramber yea I bielieve in krishna and this christians i never seen him while this christians just argue that there 100 procent true and i need to repend when im bielieving in a difrent Faith then them and for example the indigenous tribes in the amazon Rain forest and indonezja they dont know who jesus is no one can show them beacouse most of them are cannibals they eat human flesh and they dont understand what you would even say to them but by looking at the world they live in they defenitly know theres a creator a god a higher being that knows all and everything is immortal and created the universe and earth❤❤❤❤❤.
@@TurinTuramber however when the bible says you will recieve power john chapter 1 and this happens that is hard to disprove 1000s of millions of people
If Jesus is fake, why didn't he get lost in history like the others? Why did so many people die insisting he was real and there? Would you die for a stranger?
@@TurinTuramber except everyone wants to leave the islamic countries. All the christian countries that followed the Word closely are the countries people are trying to get to. If islam is real and they follow it so sincerely why are their countries in constant turmoil? Their countries are not blessed. The more the US turns away from God the more we will fall too.
Because he had one of the biggest nations of the time, pushing their new religion, main stream, and creating copies of copies of these controlled gospels. That were written anonymously by the way… There’s a funny joke, the Jews like to say. Why did god allow the Mormon religion to be created. So Christians can understand and feel how the Jews feel about Christianity.😂
Keep in mind that very few NT scholar believes that the gospels were written by the authors they are attributed to. There are many reason for this, some obvious (like that they were uneducated and didn't know Greek) some less so (the late date of composition), have you never looked into this? These scholars are people who have spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc. Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century.
@theastronomer5800 And there are other extremely respected & notable scholars who are absolutely convinced that the authors are exactly who they said they were. Scholars with Antichristian bias say anything to discount the holy scriptures, but we can have absolute confidence in them. The early church fathers have a direct line to the disciples, being taught by those who were students of the disciples themselves.. so the Christians' confidence is on a rock solid foundation!
I am always amazed that most logical people will admit, there are billions of things about this universe that they do not know. But they claim to know the answer to the biggest question of all.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
One of many, of course. There are ~2000 religions that we know of in our written history, and many more gods. Many of these religions had "living gods" who visited their followers. Why do the best experts (people with PhDs who study early Christianity all of their lives) explain that Jesus was a 1st century Jewish apocalyptic prophet for example, one of many?
@@theastronomer5800 ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
I was uninformed at one point, too. What's indisputable is that Joe Rogan has a large audience. With that being said, it would be wonderful if J. Warner Wallace, Dr. Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, or other scholars, historians, etc. were invited to be on Rogan's podcast. Perhaps we could blow up his socials and make it happen?
I would invite Dr. Ehrman also. Secular scholars have the huge advantage of not being biased by a belief. Have you read any of Ehrman's work, in which he often summarized the mainstream views about Jesus based on academic research (not beliefs).
J.Warner Wallace and Gary Habermas have totally different beliefs about the historical nature of the evidence. If you believe, you cannot believe the other. If one convinces you, the other should be seen as being totally wrong and misleading people. You can't have it both ways, the Wallace & Lydia McGrew camp is singing a totally different tune than the Habermas & Licona camp. And William Lane Craig thinks genocide and slavery are good things, so maybe you should be embarrassed by him, not wanting him to speak in public?
@@alwinengelbrecht3012 I also watch Bart Ehrman and find him funny. But I am not sure what conspiracy ories (sic) you are alluding to. Please enlighten us.
We don’t need to publish any works, there are well over 22,000 manuscripts on Jesus from antiquity. Why don’t you start there and get back to us. Or just ask Bart Erhman, an atheist Biblical scholar who said, “the most certain fact about Jesus is that he died by the hands of the Romans under Pontius Pilate at the behest of the Jewish Pharisees.”
@@philipmitchener28 I can write a manuscript right now that talks about Jesus, and you can make 4 copies of it. Does that give us 5 manuscripts confirming Jesus? No. It gives you one claim by me, and four copies of that claim. You don't understand the difference between a claim and evidence, do you?
@@peterlatourette3547 And when Einstein said (kind of) that, he was answering a question about the historical existence of Jesus. He made no claim that he believed the miraculous parts of the stories. Those are the ONLY parts that need confirmation, yet we have none. Nobody cares is a guy named Jesus existed if there's no reason to believe he performed miracles and was the son of God.
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0:58 correction, Who Saul saw was not the “ghost” of Jesus but the resurrected glorified Jesus! Saul was Pharisee, a sect within Jewish faiths at the time, and may have thought he was being faithful. Imagine his surprise when he learned from the risen Messiah what he was really doing! He was healed, made one of the Apostles, renamed Paul, and became perhaps greatest missionary for Christ of all time.
Tiberius Caesar As the Roman emperor from AD 14 to 37, Tiberius was a major political figure whose life and reign were documented by several contemporary and later Roman historians. He had a direct influence on the empire, its laws, and its military. The key sources for Tiberius include: Tacitus' Annals (written c. AD 116-117) - A detailed, though often critical, account of Tiberius' reign. Suetonius' The Twelve Caesars (written c. AD 121) - A biographical sketch of Tiberius. Cassius Dio's Roman History (written early 3rd century AD) - A history of Rome that includes an account of Tiberius. Velleius Paterculus - A contemporary of Tiberius who wrote favorably about him in his Roman History. Inscriptions and Coins - There are numerous inscriptions, statues, and coins from his reign that directly commemorate and record his achievements. Thus, Tiberius has multiple contemporary and near-contemporary references due to his political prominence. Jesus of Nazareth Jesus, who lived in the same period (roughly 4 BC to AD 30/33), was a religious figure whose significance grew after his death, particularly within Christian communities. Despite his profound impact on history and the founding of Christianity, direct secular historical references to Jesus during or shortly after his life are fewer compared to Tiberius. The most significant references include: The New Testament (written between AD 50 and 100) - These are religious texts, not secular historical accounts, but they remain primary sources for understanding the life and teachings of Jesus. Tacitus - In Annals (Book 15, Chapter 44), written c. AD 116, Tacitus briefly mentions Jesus in the context of Nero's persecution of Christians, noting that Jesus was executed under Pontius Pilate during Tiberius' reign. Josephus - The Jewish historian Josephus (AD 37-100) refers to Jesus in his Antiquities of the Jews (Book 18, Chapter 3), written around AD 93. The passage known as the Testimonium Flavianum mentions Jesus, though parts of it are believed to have been altered by later Christian scribes. Pliny the Younger - In a letter to Emperor Trajan (c. AD 112), Pliny refers to early Christian worship of Christ (Jesus). Mara Bar Serapion - In a letter from the 1st or 2nd century, Mara Bar Serapion references the execution of a "wise king" of the Jews, which is often interpreted as a reference to Jesus. Who is Mentioned More? Tiberius Caesar has more contemporary historical documentation due to his role as a Roman emperor. The Roman Empire maintained thorough records, and historians like Tacitus, Suetonius, and Cassius Dio documented the reigns of emperors in detail. Jesus is mentioned less frequently in secular historical sources during his time, as he was a religious figure from a relatively small, occupied province of the Roman Empire. Most of what is known about him comes from Christian religious texts, written after his death, which were not intended as secular history. Posthumous Impact: While Tiberius has more contemporaneous historical mentions, Jesus has become one of the most referenced figures in world history, especially due to the influence of Christianity. Over time, countless texts, theological works, and historical studies have been written about Jesus, far surpassing the historical focus on Tiberius. In conclusion, Tiberius is mentioned more often in contemporary historical records, but Jesus has been the subject of far more writings and references in later centuries due to the spread of Christianity.
Man I really wish Joe would just have someone that knows their stuff on his show .. the blatant misinformation about Christianity is so crazy . Pure lies
How are they lies? And "blatant misinformation" is ridiculous. Did Jesus exist? Was he as portrayed in the Bible. How could anyone know? The son of God claim is ridiculous. How could a crucifixion save anyone, and from what? Look at the actual history of Christianity - it is shockingly evil, mass brain washing, massive bloodshed. And why is it any better or more true than the folklore and myths of any other religion going back 20,000 years with other heros and saviours? And why does it matter?
@@TurinTuramber no? It’s people that have zero credibility or knowledge on the topic whether they believe in Jesus or not . Even Bart erhman would be good and he’s done more propaganda to ruin peoples faith than anyone in my lifetime lol
Absolutely love and value this channel so much. It’s such a useful tool, answering questions of how could I intellectually argue/provide proof to unbelievers. What a blessing. We appreciate you so much for the time & dedication to this work. After all, Jesus is worth so much, more than anyone or anything. Thank you
Thank you for the good work of brining the evidence to light! I too used to be a skeptical. But materials like this really put the pieces together. Jesus Christ is our Lord!
It's funny how people hear about other historical figures like king David, Alexander the Great, Vlad the Impaler etc and they just believe it, but you bring up Jesus and they say "That story is just a myth. He doesn't exist". Some people hear "Jesus" and immediately turn off the lights.
ATHEISM, CHRISTIANITY, and ALL RELIGIONS bring the HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, GRIEFS, SICKNESS, and DEATHS of MANKIND Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are unitedly mocking, insulting, and degrading Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth are clearly the hateful, cruel, merciless, and rebellious persons on earth who are obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, hypocrisies, cruelties, deceits, and their - 1. LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" offend, dishonor, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS. The AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The Creator KNOWS that all persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and without any value at all and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are clearly the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who are definitely worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and the Creator also KNOWS that he will not let all the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let his Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@movie-mandan That's actually not true, or maybe the first documents found, butI read just the other day in Mathew 14 - 52, Jesus talks about "scribes that have become disciples", so he had people following him around and writing down things he said and did. Unless my bible is different from everyone else, I don't know how people miss that.
In this day ,healings happen every day by praying in His name! I have myself been healed Six times have instantly been healed by people praying for Mr in His name. My back,schiatica, arthritis in left hand,my knee joints and through TV, tendinitis. Yes, I believed and God did the rest through the praying intercessions.
No, they do not. So many prayers don’t get answered. And then, when a prayer supposedly does get answered, that’s looked at as an answered prayer in the ones that didn’t happen they resort to being God works in mysterious ways.
Really? First I’ve heard of this. Citation please. Perhaps you are talking about Josephus. I think you will find that there is nothing written about Jesus when he was alive. Then we have Paul’s Epistles, Acts, the Gospels, which are anonymous , Josephus and Tacitus.
@horridhenry9920 Nothing written about Jesus when he was alive? Really? So let's see, 5 thousand at the sermon on the mount. Roman tax collector Matthew walks off the job to join Jesus. Thousands pilgrimmage to Capernaum where they set up camp just to hear Jesus. The Jews try him, convict him, torture and crucify him. All this, and no Roman anywhere thought to maybe make note of it? In spite of Roman law that mandates such reporting? Really? Seriously?! There's so much contemporaneous documentation from the Romans alone it isn't even necessary to read the Bible to know Jesus existed!
Ceasar was alive ~50 years BEFORE Jesus was born. How could he be talking about Jesus? Jesus was a common name, like John today. Why would he be talking about THE Jesus before Jesus was born. What are you talking about?
Here are the earliest proof of Gossple of Mark and it actually suggests that there is no evidence that Mark wrote it before 70 AD. Papyrus P45 (Chester Beatty Papyri): Date: Early 3rd century AD (c. AD 200-250) Content: This manuscript contains portions of all four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles, including significant fragments of the Gospel of Mark. Significance: P45 is the earliest substantial manuscript of Mark, though it is not complete. It provides evidence of the Gospel’s circulation in the early 3rd century. Papyrus P137 (Mark fragment from Oxyrhynchus): Date: Estimated late 2nd to early 3rd century AD Content: This fragment contains a small portion of Mark 1:7-9 and 1:16-18. Significance: While not extensive, it is currently one of the oldest surviving fragments of the Gospel of Mark. Codex Vaticanus (B) and Codex Sinaiticus (Aleph): Date: Both are from the 4th century AD. Content: These are among the earliest complete manuscripts of the New Testament, including the full Gospel of Mark. Significance: These codices provide the earliest complete version of Mark, helping to preserve the text.
The amount of cross referenced different sources (and written in a ‘reporting’ not ‘literary/myth’ style) is MASSIVE compared to any other historical figure (Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, etc). If Jesus was a ‘myth’, then NOTHING from history can be believed. Also, when various bibles containing the gospels of Christ from the first few centuries, and in various geographical locations with different languages and cultures, were examined - the texts match up over 98% of the words and grammatical meanings - which mean the first people passing on what they saw was held in such extreme importance, that NOBODY took liberty or flourishes with the reporting (NOT stories or myth). Nothing like that has happened in human history before or since in documenting anything.
Joe, if you question 1 group you have to question both groups. Meaning believers AND non believers and understand that if I can't prove to you that he existed, you can't prove to me that he didn't. The non-believers in the world that want to have this conversation need to be able to bring the same proof to the table that they want believers to bring to the table. If they can't do that there is no conversation!!!
Suppose you walked up to two people and said "I just had an apple for lunch." The first person notices he never saw an apple core and doesn't smell apple on your breath, and says "I am not convinced you ate an apple." The second person thinks he knows where you were this morning, thinks you were nowhere near an apple tree, and says "You did not eat an apple." Both of them do not believe you, but the first one is not making any claims. He is just not convinced by your story. He has nothing to prove, but you do. The second one has stated that you did NOT eat an apple, so he IS making a claim, and he does have a burden of proof. Atheism is simply a LACK of belief in a God. There might be gods, there might not, but they have not been convinced that any gods exist. If you claim there IS a god, the burden of proof was on you, and you failed to convince them. If someone claims there IS NO GOD, that's a positive claim, and it would need evidence to support it. But that's not what most atheists say. Simply NOT believing the Bible requires no proof. We just don't believe because we haven't been convinced. But for those atheists who claim "There are no gods", then I agree with you: THEY need to provide their evidence.
@@saintmalaclypse3217 It's not our job to "convince" you. It's your job to evaluate the info presented. And if you're "not convinced" then you ALSO accept the responsibility for being wrong. And Jesus has told us, what the consequences are. Your rejection of those consequences is on you. The enforcement of those consequences is not up to you.
@@nathanielalderson9111 Heh, no, that's not how evidence works. "And Jesus has told us, what the consequences are." That right there is the problem. You really believe that, but you have no reason to. We have found zero evidence to support any of the miracles in the bible; we have no idea who wrote most of it, but we know for sure humans wrote it. We have not got one single word ever written by Jesus or by God, just humans. And the WHOLE BIBLE talks about how awful humans are, so why would we trust them with our souls?
@@saintmalaclypse3217 Jesus informing us of a fact is not evidence, sir Mal. Nor does it need to be. If I told you I'm a valid driver, and you said "I'm not convinced", I do not need to show evidence of that fact to you. You're the one making extra demands. Your disbelief is based in a number of fallacies, the first being "personal incredulity" which is the root of where 'show evidence' comes from. It's NOT MY JOB to convince you. I want to make this very clear to you. I do not have to provide evidence of anything to you. If I told you "there's a cliff there, don't drive over it or you'll kick the bucket." You have the right to not believe me. You have the right to speed over that cliff as fast as you want to. I certainly can't stop you. Jesus warning us of Hell is Jesus warning humanity of the cliff right in front of us. Each individual gets to choose to believe Him or not. Each person gets to stop, pause, check out the claim. And its a big claim. I'm satisfied the danger is real. Im choosing to not 'drive over that cliff' and im urging to to stop, join me, and safeguard your own life, by believing The Guy that warned me.
I think the problem with the external sources we have is that all of those writers were born after the death of Jesus. I believe the earliest external source is Josephus who was born 37 a.d. and doesn't write about Jesus for another 55 years later. Then you have to wonder why Josephus did not become a Christian considering what he supposedly wrote about Jesus? Tacitus was also born after the death of Jesus and does not write about Jesus until 116 a.d. The point I am trying to make is that external sources are writing about Jesus from the perspective of how Christians of their time viewed the concept of Jesus that could exist whether or not a historical Jesus actually existed. If you google how Tacitus got his information about the crucifixion of Jesus under Pontius Pilate he is recounting what he heard form the "Chrestians" themselves, not from official records. In terms of using the internal sources of the New Testament, even that has problems in that it is not a bunch of personal accounts but a series of writers borrowing from other writers to create the stories of Jesus. If Matthew and Luke were eyewitnesses or used eyewitness accounts, why do they rely on other written stories, in particular the gospel of Mark, where Mark informs us he got his stories from Peter who also had influence on Paul. While John is a bit of an outlier, he still sticks somewhat to what the other writers wrote. These writers had an audience in mind and tailored the narrative to that audience. My point here is that there is plenty of room for doubt even using the bible itself, leaving the possibility of a fictional Jesus. If all options are available, we could have a fictional Jesus or a historical Jesus. If historical, then there is the matter of is it an exaggerated Jesus or perhaps still a fictional Jesus in the sense that the writers did not convey the actual teachings of Jesus but rather their version.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Atheists who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
I don't know why those that choose not to believe try so hard to prove that Jesus as the son of god is not true. Why can't they just enjoy their beliefs with themselves?
Thousands of years and nothing has changed, the BATTLE to the DEATH on planet Earth is still ATHEISM and RELIGIONS versus the CREATOR and HIS CHRIST Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions KNOW and are fully aware that they are unitedly opposed, against, and - 1. will never ever accept that the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as True and Sovereign God in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. will never ever accept Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18. The Creator KNOWS that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is definitely NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions but ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
The book of Matthew has been confirmed by historians to have been written as early as 7 years after Jesus’s death on the cross. All of the New Testament was written by eye witnesses of Jesus’s life, death and resurrection, or they were written by the understudies of the eye witnesses. This has been confirmed by both secular and Christian historians, and is no longer a debate. People who disagree with it or are skeptic of it simply don’t want it to be true.
I've been studying academic scholarship on early Christianity and the NT for about 25 years and have never heard of any historians confirming that Matt was written as early as 7 years after Jesus. While some argue for an early date, most don't and that is NOT the academic consensus. Also, keep in mind that very few NT scholar believes that the gospels were written by the authors they are attributed to. There are many reason for this, some obvious (like that they were uneducated and didn't know Greek) some less so (the late date of composition), have you never looked into this? These scholars are people who have spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc. Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century. For Matt in particular, most scholars will give a much later date for reasons like: Dependence on the Gospel of Mark: Most scholars believe that Matthew was written after the Gospel of Mark, which is generally dated to around 65-70 CE. Matthew is thought to have used Mark as a primary source, incorporating and expanding upon its content. Destruction of the Temple: The Gospel of Matthew seems to reflect knowledge of the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple, which occurred in 70 CE. Some scholars suggest that Matthew was written shortly after this event, as it includes references that imply the destruction was a recent event. Early Church Fathers: Early Christian writers such as Papias and Irenaeus indicated that Matthew was written in the first century, but they did not provide precise dates. Their testimonies are more indicative of the period rather than exact dating. Theological and Historical Context: The content of Matthew reflects a developed theological perspective and addresses issues pertinent to the early Christian community in the latter part of the first century.
@@theastronomer5800 not buying it. it does not take a God to prophesize that the 2nd temple will be torn down, especially after the first temple was torn down before. just takes a smart person to read the room. so claiming they were could only be written after the fact is not clever at all. just seem fallacious. 2nd point is that even today many people have ghostwriters and editor, to correct there grammar, and punctuations, so saying that I not write this post myself with out the help of spell checker, or help from the editor is a juvenile argument. I can not take these two arguments seriously, only a Scholar with some Axe to grind with make such fallacious conclusions.
@@theastronomer5800 well I’m sorry if you have never heard of it, but the discussions, calculations and reasoning has been argued. The bottom line is that the gospels have been argued extensively that the writers of them were in fact done by the apostles themselves or by their understudies well within the time of reliability which provides them credibility against any argument a to the contrary.
i have a question for anyone who is in unbelief: which would be worse? deciding to just take a tiny step out in faith and deciding to believe and trust Him now, even if all you can muster is as small as a mustard seed, or waiting until this life is over and finding out it was all true AFTER the fact? wouldn’t you rather step out in faith for a moment and allow God to work with that little bit of faith, or would you rather refuse that, not knowing what the consequence of that will be? our ways are not His ways, neither are our thoughts His thoughts. His ways and thoughts are higher than ours.
So many nonbelievers in Christianity simply say things that are completely inaccurate. How can you speak with conviction about something that you know nothing about?
Very few (if any?) historical scholars of early Christianity (so people with PhDs, who don't make those kinds of documentaries...) doubt that Jesus existed. They also view him properly in his historical context (unlike religious people), so many for example consider him to have been a 1st century Jewish apocalyptic prophet based on the numerous apocalyptic sayings in the NT and his (as well as Paul's and the early Church Fathers') expectation of the imminent end.
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
@kos-mos1127 How long you been crying on these channels? Like I said - The bane of 'higher learning circles' (yall will even migrate to Christian channels in angst and frustration.) Thanks for proving the point 😂
I have a problem with-not one of his disiples believed he was the son of God before the crucifixion, Judas betrayed him Peter denied him, they all ran away, Peter James and John had God personally tell them this is my son at the transfiguration in the presence of Moses and Elijah. Thats a big deal. Jesus told them exactly what was going to happen over and over again. They had the son of God as their personal preacher for 3 years and still they did not believe he was the most powerful being in the universe. Where are the early stories of the rest of the disiples. Why make this story so hard to believe when the stakes are so high. Many many people are seeking a relationship with the divine, things could be so much easier, have empathy with people who have a hard time with this.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Atheists who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
I think I understand where you're coming from. In my experience, the fact that it is difficult to parse out is part of what keeps me digging and searching. If it were laid out in simple bullet points it would be easily dismissed. When I have to dig in and start checking sources and references I come across a lot of other detail that would never have crossed my mind otherwise. That's my two cents worth.
Ask people who have died and were resuscitated. Many speak about having a religious experience and meeting Jesus and the lord. These people include doctors, nurses, academics, etc. They no longer fear death. There are many such videos on TH-cam. I’m a golfer. You can go to the TH-cam video of Lee Trevino talking about passing over when he was hit by lightning.
Yes that’s more reasonable but it was quite possibly mere years after with the first creeds already established and widely circulated within weeks. And the gospels may be some of the first ever peer reviewed factual documents because the community which included those thousands who walked with and saw Jesus accepted or rejected various writings based on their accuracy and obvious inspiration hence why the New Testament we have is the New Testament we have.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Atheists who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
J Warner Wallace, as a leading cold case detective, presents the more persuasive argument regarding the facts of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
In case someone were to ask, what is the chain of command for Ignatius, Polycarp, etc.? How do we know someone down the line didn’t change their story about Who Jesus is?
lol the historicity of Jesus has long been established, there is no controversy in any meaningful sense even about the resurrection facts across academic scholars this is beyond cringe worthy they are this ignorant.
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Mathew was written 30 years after the crucifixion, then the Didache, then the rest of the Gospels, then the letters to the churchs, then revelation, then 1st Clement about 80A.D., Ignatius of Antioch in 108, then Justin Martyr.
Our greatest historians and scholars and historians cannot deny his existence as they don’t. His majesty and divinity too …as all in turn will come to understand. Amen 🙏
I daily struggle with free will, having seen the light/a ghost when I was 8. I don't feel in my bones like I have a choice in the matter to do what is the morally right thing. And, I struggle living with myself if I falter from the path.
What I would like to know is why there are so many different stories that are the same. Mainly what changes are names a few things but most the same story. I believe Joe Rogan was about to say that next in the clip here.
People, just because JR is popular, makes too much money, does not equate to intelligence or even being well read. He is of average intelligence, sounds like Joe 6-pack, believes in myths and urban legends, is still steeped in secular brainwashing. For him to think Jesus is just some type of myth is amazing. Jesus existed as a human, died like a human, and there were witnesses galore. I like that he at least asks tough questions but he helps perpetuate myths and legends through his lack or knowledge and research.
First line and Rogan is well out. "Jesus as a historical figure is controversial." NOOOO! A couple of fringe thinkers question him, but he is one of the greatest attested people in history! From Rogan's very first sentence, you know that he does not know this field at all.
there was a writing by a roman subject , completely out of the realm of any religion, who was writing to some authority in Rome, about Jesus , it's been a long time ago for me and i don't really remember the particulars just the fact that a roman official was writing some other official concerning the person called Jesus and verifying his existence. both these roman citizens were verified to have existed too .
CORRECTION @ 0:41, The earliest gospel completed, Book of Matthew, was estimated to have been finished just 7.5 years after Jesus' death and resurrection, not 100 years as mentioned in this video. The books that took the longest time to complete, which were books and letters written by the Apostle John, took 65 years to complete. Paul's letters were completed just 30 years after Jesus' death and resurrection. In general, while exact writing durations are not known, we do have a clue as to when these writings were completed. The Holy Scriptures is estimated to have been completed 65 years after Jesus' death and resurrection.
It would be nice if the speaker described in more detail what he means by the Apostle John taking a “Polaroid” of the crucifixion. And then he passes that on to his three students who become church leaders. This doesn’t strike me as substantive.
Apostle Paul records the Christian Creed in 1 Cor 15, by referencing 'scripture' already written, this was around 51-52 AD, a mere 18 years after Jesus resurrection in 33 AD. The ultimate polaroid was provided by God on the Shroud of Turin at the very moment of resurrection, which has been authenticated by now thru many scientific methods.
Even Jewish scholars who look at historical accounts accept Jesus existed while not agreeing with His claims. Similarly, though I don't particularly trust the source, the quran references Jesus from the writings that were available in Mohammeds time.. There is definitely evidence for Jesus, that is, without doubt!
The thought of evidence outside of the bible is not wrongheaded. It's just seeking evidence to show those who do not believe that, at the very least, he was a real person. If you keep introducing the Bible you will lose those who are ardently against religion.
There was not a thing said in this podcast that would convince a non-believer that Christ actually existed. The actions of early Christians does not speak to the authenticity of the historical claim that Jesus Christ existed.
Thousands of years and nothing has changed, the BATTLE to the DEATH on planet Earth is still ATHEISM and RELIGIONS versus the CREATOR and HIS CHRIST Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions KNOW and are fully aware that they are unitedly opposed, against, and - 1. will never ever accept that the Creator is the True and Sovereign God and 2. will never ever submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth. The Creator KNOWS that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is definitely NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions but ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are also NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions but ONLY for loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others who are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom-2 My apologies but I am slightly confused. Is this an invitation for a private discussion? or some other message? I have invited Detective Wallace to debate numerous times. He has always refused. Why?
So in other words, Paul had No idea who Jesus was as a person. He simply decided that he was as scared of death as most humans and decided to buy into the whole charade to make himself feel more emotionally secure. But those emotions are often derived from emotion and Not fact.
Why is it so hard to believe, that Mark who wrote The Good News according to Mark, was in fact apostle Peter's son?1Pet 5:13: "The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, salutes you; and so does Marcus my son."
The first gospel was written within claims 60years of jesus, by first hand witnesses. The veracity of which can be tested with internal references from other books of the Bible and external literature as well. People argue this issue of reliability of scripture based on shallow or misunderstanding of how history is captured over time. And they unfortunately do not impose the same degree of questioning to other claims other than Christianity. It's often frustrating when people who have microphones speak on issues but don't have the commitment to go do the actual research. There's often a lot of intellectual dishonesty to their sweeping claims.
SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The lives, dignities, and existence of the Creator and Jesus Christ are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are unitedly and openly slandering, mocking, and degrading - 1. the Creator as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD and 2. Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth while the Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Keep in mind that a non Christian HAS NO ABILITY WHAT-SO-EVER to discern God in ANY FORM. If you're not called - He's invisible to you and your spirit DOES NOT seek his face. If He has called you then and only then can you even begin to see His hand in nature and discern the sprits of the those around you. So don't try and convince the unregenerate with logic/arguments. They cannot see Him - at all.
Yes a Rabbi who was teaching Rabbi Hillel teachings (the Golden Rule, don't judge, be good to enemies...) and Persian apocalyptic beliefs probably existed. Josephus writes about many of these messianic figures. But the supernatural tales in the Gospels are myth taken from Hellenistic theology. Warner Wallace is a homicide detective and Christian apologist. He is not an expert in historical scholarship. Nabeel Asif Qureshi was a Pakistani-American evangelical Christian apologist. Not at all trained in historical scholarship. A 400 year old field that the general public is largely unaware unless you read the books by the scholars. Bart Ehrman writes about how shocked fundamentalists are when they switch from theology to historical studies. Every scholar with a PhD in critical-history is absolutely positive the evidence is that Christianity is a combination of Judaism, Persian beliefs and mostly Hellenism. David Litwa teaches online courses on these Greek influenced religions. Richard Miller writes about them as well. The experts on Hellenism and it's influence on the Gospels are James Tabor, J.Z. Smith, Klauck, and the Persian experts are Mary Boyce and John Collins. Ignatius is writing at the end of the 2nd century, his letters are in Elaine Pagels "The Gnostic Gospels". He didn't like the various Gnostic groups and wanted a power structure of priests and bishops who could be the only teachers, interpreters and readers of what scripture he wanted. He mentions Matthew but has different things in the Gospel. He is over 1 century later. It would be like someone right now saying Mormonism is the true religion. Except they didn't have access to books, internet, papers like we do. He bought into a story in the Gospels. Just like 1 billion in Islam bought into the Quran 1 century later. These are bad apologetics designed to convince people who do not care about what is actually true. He never sources one single historian. Many like Miller and Ehrman were fundamentalists who swore their beliefs would never be shaken. They are now secular. When you believe amateur apologists over an entire field of study, with specialists in every area (Gospel dates/names added, Synoptic Problem, Acts, Persian influence, Greek influence, Mesopotamian influence on Genesis, Joel Baden on the Pentatuch, Fransesca Stavrakopolou on early Yahweh and what the original Hebrew said and of course archaeologists like Dever, Meyers and Finklestein, then you are just doing what Mormons, Islam, and every other group trying to make a myth historical and ignoring the vast amount of evidence that has been found over centuries. In the Yale Divinity Lectures "Old Testament Interpretation 1 and 2" he goes over the places we first see Persian borrowings in the late OT books. James Tabors content is free on youtube and his website. When the Greeks occupied a nation from 300 BCE to the 1st century the local religions were changed, all in the same way. They took on personal salvation through a son/daughter of the supreme God, we have a soul that belongs in it's rightful home (Heaven), baptism is a spiritual union with the passion of the savior and resurrection is not bodily but spiritual. In the OT the dead just slept in Sheol. The theology changed with Persian influence and with Greek influence. All historical scholars say the same thing because this is what the evidence shows. J.Z. Smith explains in the Britannica article about Hellenism what religions took from Hellenism. We have a Syrian version, we have a Persian version, an Egyptian version, it’s the same package that spreads from the Greek colonists. It’s very Greek but borrows from local cultures. The last version was the Jewish version, the NT. -the seasonal drama was homologized to a soteriology (salvation concept) concerning the destiny, fortune, and salvation of the individual after death. -his led to a change from concern for a religion of national prosperity to one for individual salvation, from focus on a particular ethnic group to concern for every human. The prophet or saviour replaced the priest and king as the chief religious figure. -his process was carried further through the identification of the experiences of the soul that was to be saved with the vicissitudes of a divine but fallen soul, which had to be redeemed by cultic activity and divine intervention. This view is illustrated in the concept of the paradoxical figure of the saved saviour, salvator salvandus. -Other deities, who had previously been associated with national destiny (e.g., Zeus, Yahweh, and Isis), were raised to the status of transcendent, supreme -The temples and cult institutions of the various Hellenistic religions were repositories of the knowledge and techniques necessary for salvation and were the agents of the public worship of a particular deity. In addition, they served an important sociological role. In the new, cosmopolitan ideology that followed Alexander’s conquests, the old nationalistic and ethnic boundaries had broken down and the problem of religious and social identity had become acute. -Most of these groups had regular meetings for a communal meal that served the dual role of sacramental participation (referring to the use of material elements believed to convey spiritual benefits among the members and with their deity) -Hellenistic philosophy (Stoicism, Cynicism, Neo-Aristotelianism, Neo-Pythagoreanism, and Neoplatonism) provided key formulations for Jewish, Christian, and Muslim philosophy, theology, and mysticism through the 18th century - The basic forms of worship of both the Jewish and Christian communities were heavily influenced in their formative period by Hellenistic practices, and this remains fundamentally unchanged to the present time. Finally, the central religious literature of both traditions-the Jewish Talmud (an authoritative compendium of law, lore, and interpretation), the New Testament, and the later patristic literature of the early Church Fathers-are characteristic Hellenistic documents both in form and content. -Other traditions even more radically reinterpreted the ancient figures. The cosmic or seasonal drama was interiorized to refer to the divine soul within man that must be liberated. -Each persisted in its native land with little perceptible change save for its becoming linked to nationalistic or messianic movements (centring on a deliverer figure) -and apocalyptic traditions (referring to a belief in the dramatic intervention of a god in human and natural events) - Particularly noticeable was the success of a variety of prophets, magicians, and healers-e.g., John the Baptist, Jesus, Simon Magus, Apollonius of Tyana, Alexander the Paphlagonian, and the cult of the healer Asclepius-whose preaching corresponded to the activities of various Greek and Roman philosophic missionaries That describes the change from the OT to the NT exactly. Yet all the Mystery religions used these beliefs. So Rogan is basically correct, he just doesn't know the specifics.
comparing the evidence of tiberius caesar and jesus existing is like comparing evidence of dinosaurs and unicorns existing: for one there is actual physical evidence from that timeline like sculptures, coins and even ruins of locations where they lived and for the other one there is nothing from that time period at all...
@@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY a letter written by someone else many years after something happened is physical proof of that someone else, not of what they write about
The fact that the consequent destruction of the 2nd Temple, which was destroyed in 70 AD, is not even alluded to anywhere in the New Testament, proves that the Gospels and the entire New Testament was written within 30 years of Jesus' death. One of Jesus' most descriptive prophecies, described the complete destruction of the Jewish Temple. Considering the dedication of His followers, if they had been writing after the destruction of The Temple, they would at the very least alluded to the actual consequent destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Also the fact that Rome's war against the Jews & Israel which began in late 65 AD, is not mentioned when discussing the history of the early church, is also more than enough abundant proof that the New Testament was composed and completed within 10-30 years of Jesus' death.
Excellent point!
Paul's writings occurred prior and the gospel stories are about events that occured prior. Why would the gospels mention the actual destruction? Mark's entire story alludes to the destruction of the temple as if the new cult is an answer to it.
@@downshift4503 Three of the four gospels refer to Jesus' prophecy regarding The Temple's destruction: Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. I find it rather strange that anyone would even ask, "Why would a gospel author refer to it, if they had witnessed it prior to completing their writing?" The entire purpose of their writing was that others might believe, and what better confirmation that Jesus was the prophet/messiah they had been waiting for for millennia than fulfilled prophecy? John 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
@@blackeyedturtle Sure, it's very easy for Mark (and later authors copying Mark) to put those words into Jesus mouth implying that he was prophesying future events and as you say, this encourages anyone reading the story that this character was the messiah. Note that Paul, writing before the destruction of the temple, seems to know little about Jesus life and ministry that Mark would later write, never mind Jesus forecasting the temple will be destroyed.
@@downshift4503 A man as well educated and informed as Shaul, spent 14 years studying the life and ministry of the Messiah before he himself became an Apostle of The Gospel. You obviously know very little of what you are talking about.
RIP Nabeel 🙏🕊️🌹
You'd be hard-pressed to find a LEGITIMATE historical scholar who says He didn't exist!
Edit: to the anti-God people. (Who will either have zero response or seek to shift my point to another topic/angle)
Which has more "proof" and "scientific" process behind it? "Primordial Soup" or Jesus, Soup or creation by intelligence?!
It is not a black-or-white issue. Many accept that Jesus existed as a historical fact, and others will say that Jesus likely existed but acknowledge that the evidence is often second or third-hand claims and should be considered with scepticism. Very few assert that Jesus probably didn't exist and I am not aware of any that claim he didn't.
Unlike other historical figures, the existence of Jesus is not necessary to explain any physical evidence. The existence of Aristotle and Plato are the same. History loses nothing if they are not real people. Tiberius Caesar, on the other hand, is required to explain physical evidence.
depends what you mean by "didn't exist". If Clark Kent existed it does not follow that stories of Superman are true (ie that Superman existed). Christians don't believe in the Clark Kent version of Jesus. They believe in the Superman version.
Dr. Richard Carrier
all legitimate historical scholars say he didnt exist (since there is no evidence from that timeline available)
@@thinkingaboutit1906 Plenty of evidence outside of atheist nonsense, bro.
The lady of Rogan's show is mistaken: The Gospel of John tells us the 'bath at the colonnade" IS there - present tense. The writer of the Gospels took for granted that Jerusalem hadn't been destroyed, so Joh nm was written prior too the destruction of Jerusalem AD 70.
Yeah all the gospels have to have been written before AD 70.
Not even that the early church creeds are 0-2 years after Jesus and establish high christology from the start, the narrative never evolved. They give us deity, death and resurrection of Jesus. These people that try to pretend the mention of him is only a century later are absurd.
Another "hard point" in history is Pauls' execution by the Romans in 64 or 65 AD. So he had to write all the Pauline Epistles before then. And the book of Acts never mentions Pauls death; it leaves us hanging with him imprisoned in Rome. It would be very, very odd for Luke to leave out that event had it been written after the fact.
The writer (whoever that was - nobody knows) of gJohn KNEW the temple was destroyed and that is why it was written anywhere from 85-145 CE.
@@gmac6503 There's no evidence of that, and it was written by... John LOL
There's so much eye witness testimony of the life of Christ that if we are going to write off the gospels alone we can scrap any documented ancient figure.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Two of the disciples were witness to his life and existence. John was witness to the actual event of his crucifying. 12 were executed by horrible deaths. .
The skeptics would have you believe that they know that nothing supernatural can happen, so the claims of miracles must all be part of a larger coverup. But you are correct--Did Abraham Lincoln exist? Dunno, I didn't see him.
@@spikenomoon Keep in mind that basically no NT scholar believes that the Gospel of John was written by John. There are many reason for this, some obvious some less so, have you never looked into this? These are people who spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc.
The eye witnesses were made up.
Everyone is going to know about Jesus Christ however it’s best to know him now than later 😊
You will never be proven wrong here but that's not because you are correct.
@@TurinTuramber yea I bielieve in krishna and this christians i never seen him while this christians just argue that there 100 procent true and i need to repend when im bielieving in a difrent Faith then them and for example the indigenous tribes in the amazon Rain forest and indonezja they dont know who jesus is no one can show them beacouse most of them are cannibals they eat human flesh and they dont understand what you would even say to them but by looking at the world they live in they defenitly know theres a creator a god a higher being that knows all and everything is immortal and created the universe and earth❤❤❤❤❤.
Was the correct spelling of Turin Turambar already taken?@@TurinTuramber
i do not think the unsaved will ever meet Jesus as judgement is passed to angles for humans
@@TurinTuramber however when the bible says you will recieve power john chapter 1 and this happens that is hard to disprove 1000s of millions of people
If Jesus is fake, why didn't he get lost in history like the others? Why did so many people die insisting he was real and there? Would you die for a stranger?
How many Muslims would die for Muhammad? How many are needed to make Islam true?
@@TurinTuramber except everyone wants to leave the islamic countries. All the christian countries that followed the Word closely are the countries people are trying to get to. If islam is real and they follow it so sincerely why are their countries in constant turmoil? Their countries are not blessed. The more the US turns away from God the more we will fall too.
Because he had one of the biggest nations of the time, pushing their new religion, main stream, and creating copies of copies of these controlled gospels. That were written anonymously by the way…
There’s a funny joke, the Jews like to say. Why did god allow the Mormon religion to be created. So Christians can understand and feel how the Jews feel about Christianity.😂
If Jesus then how could he let all the atrocities happen ie the massacre in Palestine the Jewish holocaust etc
@@conradspy3611 That's answered in Genesis. This is the most basic question ever asked of religion. It's only been answered a few million times.
Matthew, Mark, & John lived with Jesus. They were not only eye witnesses. They were companions of Jesus! First hand testimony!
Keep in mind that very few NT scholar believes that the gospels were written by the authors they are attributed to. There are many reason for this, some obvious (like that they were uneducated and didn't know Greek) some less so (the late date of composition), have you never looked into this? These scholars are people who have spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc.
Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century.
Lol yeah ok
@theastronomer5800 And there are other extremely respected & notable scholars who are absolutely convinced that the authors are exactly who they said they were. Scholars with Antichristian bias say anything to discount the holy scriptures, but we can have absolute confidence in them. The early church fathers have a direct line to the disciples, being taught by those who were students of the disciples themselves.. so the Christians' confidence is on a rock solid foundation!
Wake up , the gospels are anonymous , the titles were put in by the church hierarchy in the 2nd century
@@Brett.Crealy-kh1sk
respected and notable scholars 😂, you mean Christian scholars ALL , non Christian scholars disagree
I am always amazed that most logical people will admit, there are billions of things about this universe that they do not know. But they claim to know the answer to the biggest question of all.
It's odd they never say Buddah never existed or Mohammed it's as if the only true threat to evil is Jesus Christ... mmmmm
Too scared to say anything about Islam.
Buddha yea but there’s more concrete evidence/ more sources for Muhammad existence , he was also 600 years later so that helps ..
@Bossna91 there's so much evidence for Christ it takes willful ignorance and more faith not to believe than to believe
@@thebamabirds8182 got u 🙏
because true christianity is a threat to the powers that be. christianity isnt a religion, its simply the truth
0:57 lady, Jesus Christ is not a ghost. Jesus Christ is the living God who became the authority of all creation.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
One of many, of course. There are ~2000 religions that we know of in our written history, and many more gods. Many of these religions had "living gods" who visited their followers. Why do the best experts (people with PhDs who study early Christianity all of their lives) explain that Jesus was a 1st century Jewish apocalyptic prophet for example, one of many?
@@theastronomer5800 ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@theastronomer5800”God of gods” (Deuteronomy)
@@theastronomer5800 Do these other religions have any evidence to back them up?
I was uninformed at one point, too. What's indisputable is that Joe Rogan has a large audience. With that being said, it would be wonderful if J. Warner Wallace, Dr. Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, or other scholars, historians, etc. were invited to be on Rogan's podcast. Perhaps we could blow up his socials and make it happen?
I would invite Dr. Ehrman also. Secular scholars have the huge advantage of not being biased by a belief. Have you read any of Ehrman's work, in which he often summarized the mainstream views about Jesus based on academic research (not beliefs).
J.Warner Wallace and Gary Habermas have totally different beliefs about the historical nature of the evidence.
If you believe, you cannot believe the other.
If one convinces you, the other should be seen as being totally wrong and misleading people.
You can't have it both ways, the Wallace & Lydia McGrew camp is singing a totally different tune than the Habermas & Licona camp.
And William Lane Craig thinks genocide and slavery are good things, so maybe you should be embarrassed by him, not wanting him to speak in public?
@@theastronomer5800Bart Ehrman is so funny. i watch him if i want to be amused by his conspiracy ories. 😂🤣
@@alwinengelbrecht3012 I also watch Bart Ehrman and find him funny. But I am not sure what conspiracy ories (sic) you are alluding to. Please enlighten us.
@@horridhenry9920 Who's the "us" you talk about?
“The evidence [of Jesus existing] is kinda sketchy”. That is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. Atheists crack me up.
Then publish your work. Scholars have had thousands of years to provide evidence, and have not yet done it.
@@saintmalaclypse3217 Einstein said "You can feel the actual presence of Jesus pulsate off the page..no myth does that"❤
We don’t need to publish any works, there are well over 22,000 manuscripts on Jesus from antiquity. Why don’t you start there and get back to us. Or just ask Bart Erhman, an atheist Biblical scholar who said, “the most certain fact about Jesus is that he died by the hands of the Romans under Pontius Pilate at the behest of the Jewish Pharisees.”
@@philipmitchener28 I can write a manuscript right now that talks about Jesus, and you can make 4 copies of it. Does that give us 5 manuscripts confirming Jesus? No. It gives you one claim by me, and four copies of that claim.
You don't understand the difference between a claim and evidence, do you?
@@peterlatourette3547 And when Einstein said (kind of) that, he was answering a question about the historical existence of Jesus. He made no claim that he believed the miraculous parts of the stories.
Those are the ONLY parts that need confirmation, yet we have none. Nobody cares is a guy named Jesus existed if there's no reason to believe he performed miracles and was the son of God.
Just wanted to say I appreciate your time you commit to bring his content. Working in R&D myself, I know how much time is involved in the background when trying to present researched subjects and your time is appreciated very much.
Yes that's great. The only problem all this research amount to a load of nonsense. Jesus is real.
0:58 correction, Who Saul saw was not the “ghost” of Jesus but the resurrected glorified Jesus! Saul was Pharisee, a sect within Jewish faiths at the time, and may have thought he was being faithful. Imagine his surprise when he learned from the risen Messiah what he was really doing! He was healed, made one of the Apostles, renamed Paul, and became perhaps greatest missionary for Christ of all time.
@@bryantaylor8848 correct! There’s no such thing as “ghost of Jesus”! Jesus ascended into Heaven after His resurrection!
Tiberius Caesar
As the Roman emperor from AD 14 to 37, Tiberius was a major political figure whose life and reign were documented by several contemporary and later Roman historians. He had a direct influence on the empire, its laws, and its military. The key sources for Tiberius include:
Tacitus' Annals (written c. AD 116-117) - A detailed, though often critical, account of Tiberius' reign.
Suetonius' The Twelve Caesars (written c. AD 121) - A biographical sketch of Tiberius.
Cassius Dio's Roman History (written early 3rd century AD) - A history of Rome that includes an account of Tiberius.
Velleius Paterculus - A contemporary of Tiberius who wrote favorably about him in his Roman History.
Inscriptions and Coins - There are numerous inscriptions, statues, and coins from his reign that directly commemorate and record his achievements.
Thus, Tiberius has multiple contemporary and near-contemporary references due to his political prominence.
Jesus of Nazareth
Jesus, who lived in the same period (roughly 4 BC to AD 30/33), was a religious figure whose significance grew after his death, particularly within Christian communities. Despite his profound impact on history and the founding of Christianity, direct secular historical references to Jesus during or shortly after his life are fewer compared to Tiberius. The most significant references include:
The New Testament (written between AD 50 and 100) - These are religious texts, not secular historical accounts, but they remain primary sources for understanding the life and teachings of Jesus.
Tacitus - In Annals (Book 15, Chapter 44), written c. AD 116, Tacitus briefly mentions Jesus in the context of Nero's persecution of Christians, noting that Jesus was executed under Pontius Pilate during Tiberius' reign.
Josephus - The Jewish historian Josephus (AD 37-100) refers to Jesus in his Antiquities of the Jews (Book 18, Chapter 3), written around AD 93. The passage known as the Testimonium Flavianum mentions Jesus, though parts of it are believed to have been altered by later Christian scribes.
Pliny the Younger - In a letter to Emperor Trajan (c. AD 112), Pliny refers to early Christian worship of Christ (Jesus).
Mara Bar Serapion - In a letter from the 1st or 2nd century, Mara Bar Serapion references the execution of a "wise king" of the Jews, which is often interpreted as a reference to Jesus.
Who is Mentioned More?
Tiberius Caesar has more contemporary historical documentation due to his role as a Roman emperor. The Roman Empire maintained thorough records, and historians like Tacitus, Suetonius, and Cassius Dio documented the reigns of emperors in detail.
Jesus is mentioned less frequently in secular historical sources during his time, as he was a religious figure from a relatively small, occupied province of the Roman Empire. Most of what is known about him comes from Christian religious texts, written after his death, which were not intended as secular history.
Posthumous Impact:
While Tiberius has more contemporaneous historical mentions, Jesus has become one of the most referenced figures in world history, especially due to the influence of Christianity. Over time, countless texts, theological works, and historical studies have been written about Jesus, far surpassing the historical focus on Tiberius.
In conclusion, Tiberius is mentioned more often in contemporary historical records, but Jesus has been the subject of far more writings and references in later centuries due to the spread of Christianity.
Man I really wish Joe would just have someone that knows their stuff on his show .. the blatant misinformation about Christianity is so crazy . Pure lies
How are they lies? And "blatant misinformation" is ridiculous. Did Jesus exist? Was he as portrayed in the Bible. How could anyone know? The son of God claim is ridiculous. How could a crucifixion save anyone, and from what? Look at the actual history of Christianity - it is shockingly evil, mass brain washing, massive bloodshed. And why is it any better or more true than the folklore and myths of any other religion going back 20,000 years with other heros and saviours? And why does it matter?
So if you disagree then it's lies but if you agree then "they know what they talking about".
@@TurinTuramber Something the left does every single day.
@@TurinTuramber no? It’s people that have zero credibility or knowledge on the topic whether they believe in Jesus or not . Even Bart erhman would be good and he’s done more propaganda to ruin peoples faith than anyone in my lifetime lol
Absolutely love and value this channel so much. It’s such a useful tool, answering questions of how could I intellectually argue/provide proof to unbelievers. What a blessing. We appreciate you so much for the time & dedication to this work. After all, Jesus is worth so much, more than anyone or anything. Thank you
Can you intellectually provide objective proof to unbelievers? Good luck with that.
@@horridhenry9920 no luck needed, just something more sinister: blind faith
Thank you brother. Amazing video.
Sharing in all my groups
Thank you for the good work of brining the evidence to light! I too used to be a skeptical. But materials like this really put the pieces together. Jesus Christ is our Lord!
It's funny how people hear about other historical figures like king David, Alexander the Great, Vlad the Impaler etc and they just believe it, but you bring up Jesus and they say "That story is just a myth. He doesn't exist". Some people hear "Jesus" and immediately turn off the lights.
First documents of Jesus were about 70 years after His death. First documents of Alexander The Great were about 400 years after his death.
ATHEISM, CHRISTIANITY, and ALL RELIGIONS
bring
the HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, GRIEFS, SICKNESS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are unitedly mocking, insulting, and degrading Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth
are
clearly the hateful, cruel, merciless, and rebellious persons on earth
who
are obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, hypocrisies, cruelties, deceits, and their -
1. LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. LIES and false teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
offend,
dishonor, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors
and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS.
The AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST
bring
HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The Creator KNOWS
that all persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and without any value at all
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and believe his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
clearly the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
are definitely worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
and
the Creator also KNOWS
that he will not let all the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever,
instead,
in the right and proper time,
he will let his Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@movie-mandan That's actually not true, or maybe the first documents found, butI read just the other day in Mathew 14 - 52, Jesus talks about "scribes that have become disciples", so he had people following him around and writing down things he said and did. Unless my bible is different from everyone else, I don't know how people miss that.
There is no supernatural involved with Alexander the Great 🙄🙄.
@@christopheespic No? I hear Alexander conquered the known world, that wasn't supernatural? Also, Alexander believed in God.
In this day ,healings happen every day by praying in His name! I have myself been healed Six times have instantly been healed by people praying for Mr in His name. My back,schiatica, arthritis in left hand,my knee joints and through TV, tendinitis. Yes, I believed and God did the rest through the praying intercessions.
No, they do not. So many prayers don’t get answered. And then, when a prayer supposedly does get answered, that’s looked at as an answered prayer in the ones that didn’t happen they resort to being God works in mysterious ways.
@@Wretched2JZ Nobody knows why God heals some people and not others.We are not judging God!
This woman talking to Rogan doesn't know what she is talking about. Matthew, Mark and John all knew and lived with Jesus for years.
The Romans were very accurate when it comes to data. There are letters to Cesar talking about Jesus. They had no reason to lie...
Really? First I’ve heard of this. Citation please. Perhaps you are talking about Josephus. I think you will find that there is nothing written about Jesus when he was alive. Then we have Paul’s Epistles, Acts, the Gospels, which are anonymous , Josephus and Tacitus.
@@horridhenry9920Kind of like Alexander the Great, nothing written about him until AFTER his death
@@horridhenry9920 cope, Denialist
@horridhenry9920 Nothing written about Jesus when he was alive? Really? So let's see, 5 thousand at the sermon on the mount. Roman tax collector Matthew walks off the job to join Jesus. Thousands pilgrimmage to Capernaum where they set up camp just to hear Jesus. The Jews try him, convict him, torture and crucify him. All this, and no Roman anywhere thought to maybe make note of it? In spite of Roman law that mandates such reporting? Really? Seriously?!
There's so much contemporaneous documentation from the Romans alone it isn't even necessary to read the Bible to know Jesus existed!
Ceasar was alive ~50 years BEFORE Jesus was born. How could he be talking about Jesus? Jesus was a common name, like John today. Why would he be talking about THE Jesus before Jesus was born. What are you talking about?
Here are the earliest proof of Gossple of Mark and it actually suggests that there is no evidence that Mark wrote it before 70 AD.
Papyrus P45 (Chester Beatty Papyri):
Date: Early 3rd century AD (c. AD 200-250)
Content: This manuscript contains portions of all four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles, including significant fragments of the Gospel of Mark.
Significance: P45 is the earliest substantial manuscript of Mark, though it is not complete. It provides evidence of the Gospel’s circulation in the early 3rd century.
Papyrus P137 (Mark fragment from Oxyrhynchus):
Date: Estimated late 2nd to early 3rd century AD
Content: This fragment contains a small portion of Mark 1:7-9 and 1:16-18.
Significance: While not extensive, it is currently one of the oldest surviving fragments of the Gospel of Mark.
Codex Vaticanus (B) and Codex Sinaiticus (Aleph):
Date: Both are from the 4th century AD.
Content: These are among the earliest complete manuscripts of the New Testament, including the full Gospel of Mark.
Significance: These codices provide the earliest complete version of Mark, helping to preserve the text.
The amount of cross referenced different sources (and written in a ‘reporting’ not ‘literary/myth’ style) is MASSIVE compared to any other historical figure (Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, etc). If Jesus was a ‘myth’, then NOTHING from history can be believed. Also, when various bibles containing the gospels of Christ from the first few centuries, and in various geographical locations with different languages and cultures, were examined - the texts match up over 98% of the words and grammatical meanings - which mean the first people passing on what they saw was held in such extreme importance, that NOBODY took liberty or flourishes with the reporting (NOT stories or myth). Nothing like that has happened in human history before or since in documenting anything.
Well-done. Very informative. Thanks!
Great video Brandon... well done brother! Felt your passion in this one... as always lol! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Lets not forget the roman empire was a HUGE burocracy that recorded everything.
Joe, if you question 1 group you have to question both groups. Meaning believers AND non believers and understand that if I can't prove to you that he existed, you can't prove to me that he didn't. The non-believers in the world that want to have this conversation need to be able to bring the same proof to the table that they want believers to bring to the table. If they can't do that there is no conversation!!!
Suppose you walked up to two people and said "I just had an apple for lunch."
The first person notices he never saw an apple core and doesn't smell apple on your breath, and says "I am not convinced you ate an apple."
The second person thinks he knows where you were this morning, thinks you were nowhere near an apple tree, and says "You did not eat an apple."
Both of them do not believe you, but the first one is not making any claims. He is just not convinced by your story. He has nothing to prove, but you do.
The second one has stated that you did NOT eat an apple, so he IS making a claim, and he does have a burden of proof.
Atheism is simply a LACK of belief in a God. There might be gods, there might not, but they have not been convinced that any gods exist. If you claim there IS a god, the burden of proof was on you, and you failed to convince them.
If someone claims there IS NO GOD, that's a positive claim, and it would need evidence to support it. But that's not what most atheists say. Simply NOT believing the Bible requires no proof. We just don't believe because we haven't been convinced.
But for those atheists who claim "There are no gods", then I agree with you: THEY need to provide their evidence.
@@saintmalaclypse3217
It's not our job to "convince" you.
It's your job to evaluate the info presented. And if you're "not convinced" then you ALSO accept the responsibility for being wrong.
And Jesus has told us, what the consequences are.
Your rejection of those consequences is on you. The enforcement of those consequences is not up to you.
@@nathanielalderson9111 Heh, no, that's not how evidence works.
"And Jesus has told us, what the consequences are." That right there is the problem. You really believe that, but you have no reason to. We have found zero evidence to support any of the miracles in the bible; we have no idea who wrote most of it, but we know for sure humans wrote it. We have not got one single word ever written by Jesus or by God, just humans.
And the WHOLE BIBLE talks about how awful humans are, so why would we trust them with our souls?
@@saintmalaclypse3217
Jesus informing us of a fact is not evidence, sir Mal. Nor does it need to be.
If I told you I'm a valid driver, and you said "I'm not convinced", I do not need to show evidence of that fact to you. You're the one making extra demands.
Your disbelief is based in a number of fallacies, the first being "personal incredulity" which is the root of where 'show evidence' comes from.
It's NOT MY JOB to convince you. I want to make this very clear to you. I do not have to provide evidence of anything to you.
If I told you "there's a cliff there, don't drive over it or you'll kick the bucket." You have the right to not believe me. You have the right to speed over that cliff as fast as you want to. I certainly can't stop you.
Jesus warning us of Hell is Jesus warning humanity of the cliff right in front of us.
Each individual gets to choose to believe Him or not. Each person gets to stop, pause, check out the claim. And its a big claim. I'm satisfied the danger is real. Im choosing to not 'drive over that cliff' and im urging to to stop, join me, and safeguard your own life, by believing The Guy that warned me.
@@saintmalaclypse3217
If you reject the Bible then you can't use it to support your claim.
What are the reasons you have outside of the Bible?
I think the problem with the external sources we have is that all of those writers were born after the death of Jesus. I believe the earliest external source is Josephus who was born 37 a.d. and doesn't write about Jesus for another 55 years later. Then you have to wonder why Josephus did not become a Christian considering what he supposedly wrote about Jesus? Tacitus was also born after the death of Jesus and does not write about Jesus until 116 a.d. The point I am trying to make is that external sources are writing about Jesus from the perspective of how Christians of their time viewed the concept of Jesus that could exist whether or not a historical Jesus actually existed. If you google how Tacitus got his information about the crucifixion of Jesus under Pontius Pilate he is recounting what he heard form the "Chrestians" themselves, not from official records.
In terms of using the internal sources of the New Testament, even that has problems in that it is not a bunch of personal accounts but a series of writers borrowing from other writers to create the stories of Jesus. If Matthew and Luke were eyewitnesses or used eyewitness accounts, why do they rely on other written stories, in particular the gospel of Mark, where Mark informs us he got his stories from Peter who also had influence on Paul. While John is a bit of an outlier, he still sticks somewhat to what the other writers wrote. These writers had an audience in mind and tailored the narrative to that audience. My point here is that there is plenty of room for doubt even using the bible itself, leaving the possibility of a fictional Jesus. If all options are available, we could have a fictional Jesus or a historical Jesus. If historical, then there is the matter of is it an exaggerated Jesus or perhaps still a fictional Jesus in the sense that the writers did not convey the actual teachings of Jesus but rather their version.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Atheists
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
There is proof Jesus was here. Many witnesses. Many Romans wrote letters about him
I don't know why those that choose not to believe try so hard to prove that Jesus as the son of god is not true. Why can't they just enjoy their beliefs with themselves?
Thousands of years and nothing has changed, the BATTLE to the DEATH on planet Earth
is still
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS versus the CREATOR and HIS CHRIST
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
KNOW
and are fully aware that they are unitedly opposed, against, and -
1. will never ever accept that the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as True and Sovereign God in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. will never ever accept Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18.
The Creator KNOWS
that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
definitely NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
but
ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
the guarantee
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
I never was in 9-11 but boy I can explain it to my grand kids because it was an IMPACT event.
The book of Matthew has been confirmed by historians to have been written as early as 7 years after Jesus’s death on the cross. All of the New Testament was written by eye witnesses of Jesus’s life, death and resurrection, or they were written by the understudies of the eye witnesses. This has been confirmed by both secular and Christian historians, and is no longer a debate. People who disagree with it or are skeptic of it simply don’t want it to be true.
💯. People want to sin and live materially with no bother.
I've been studying academic scholarship on early Christianity and the NT for about 25 years and have never heard of any historians confirming that Matt was written as early as 7 years after Jesus. While some argue for an early date, most don't and that is NOT the academic consensus. Also, keep in mind that very few NT scholar believes that the gospels were written by the authors they are attributed to. There are many reason for this, some obvious (like that they were uneducated and didn't know Greek) some less so (the late date of composition), have you never looked into this? These scholars are people who have spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc.
Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century.
For Matt in particular, most scholars will give a much later date for reasons like:
Dependence on the Gospel of Mark: Most scholars believe that Matthew was written after the Gospel of Mark, which is generally dated to around 65-70 CE. Matthew is thought to have used Mark as a primary source, incorporating and expanding upon its content.
Destruction of the Temple: The Gospel of Matthew seems to reflect knowledge of the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple, which occurred in 70 CE. Some scholars suggest that Matthew was written shortly after this event, as it includes references that imply the destruction was a recent event.
Early Church Fathers: Early Christian writers such as Papias and Irenaeus indicated that Matthew was written in the first century, but they did not provide precise dates. Their testimonies are more indicative of the period rather than exact dating.
Theological and Historical Context: The content of Matthew reflects a developed theological perspective and addresses issues pertinent to the early Christian community in the latter part of the first century.
@@theastronomer5800 not buying it. it does not take a God to prophesize that the 2nd temple will be torn down, especially after the first temple was torn down before. just takes a smart person to read the room. so claiming they were could only be written after the fact is not clever at all. just seem fallacious. 2nd point is that even today many people have ghostwriters and editor, to correct there grammar, and punctuations, so saying that I not write this post myself with out the help of spell checker, or help from the editor is a juvenile argument. I can not take these two arguments seriously, only a Scholar with some Axe to grind with make such fallacious conclusions.
@@theastronomer5800 well I’m sorry if you have never heard of it, but the discussions, calculations and reasoning has been argued. The bottom line is that the gospels have been argued extensively that the writers of them were in fact done by the apostles themselves or by their understudies well within the time of reliability which provides them credibility against any argument a to the contrary.
Will you please share the source that affirms that Matthew was written 7 years after Jesus' death? Thanks
i have a question for anyone who is in unbelief: which would be worse?
deciding to just take a tiny step out in faith and deciding to believe and trust Him now, even if all you can muster is as small as a mustard seed,
or waiting until this life is over and finding out it was all true AFTER the fact?
wouldn’t you rather step out in faith for a moment and allow God to work with that little bit of faith, or would you rather refuse that, not knowing what the consequence of that will be?
our ways are not His ways, neither are our thoughts His thoughts. His ways and thoughts are higher than ours.
So many nonbelievers in Christianity simply say things that are completely inaccurate. How can you speak with conviction about something that you know nothing about?
ugh... the ignorance.......!
He is...He was...and He will be...Forever❤
Yes sir!!
Amen! 🙏🏼
Let’s go. praise the Lord 🙇🏽
Amen, Maranatha
I wonder what your response is to skeptics claiming mark was not influenced by Peter given that the gospel of mark paints Peter in a negative light?
Inspiring Philosophy has a great video on this ✌️
Very well done, brother.
And let us not forget. Luke was indeed an Historian and a Doctor. ❤️🌹❤️
Thank you for your work 🙏🏼
Yet Joe gets excited about our world being a simulation. Nice one Joe!
Very few (if any?) historical scholars of early Christianity (so people with PhDs, who don't make those kinds of documentaries...) doubt that Jesus existed. They also view him properly in his historical context (unlike religious people), so many for example consider him to have been a 1st century Jewish apocalyptic prophet based on the numerous apocalyptic sayings in the NT and his (as well as Paul's and the early Church Fathers') expectation of the imminent end.
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
The mere mention of Jesus is the bane of 'higher learning circles' (those who think they got it all figured out)
😂
The name Jesus does not add anything. 😂
@kos-mos1127 How long you been crying on these channels?
Like I said - The bane of 'higher learning circles' (yall will even migrate to Christian channels in angst and frustration.) Thanks for proving the point 😂
@@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY How long have you been crying about higher learning circles giving a dose of reality.
I have a problem with-not one of his disiples believed he was the son of God before the crucifixion, Judas betrayed him Peter denied him, they all ran away, Peter James and John had God personally tell them this is my son at the transfiguration in the presence of Moses and Elijah. Thats a big deal. Jesus told them exactly what was going to happen over and over again.
They had the son of God as their personal preacher for 3 years and still they did not believe he was the most powerful being in the universe.
Where are the early stories of the rest of the disiples. Why make this story so hard to believe when the stakes are so high. Many many people are seeking a relationship with the divine, things could be so much easier, have empathy with people who have a hard time with this.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Atheists
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
I think I understand where you're coming from. In my experience, the fact that it is difficult to parse out is part of what keeps me digging and searching. If it were laid out in simple bullet points it would be easily dismissed. When I have to dig in and start checking sources and references I come across a lot of other detail that would never have crossed my mind otherwise. That's my two cents worth.
if there was a son of a god or a god... why make it so hard to provide evidence?
Ask people who have died and were resuscitated. Many speak about having a religious experience and meeting Jesus and the lord. These people include doctors, nurses, academics, etc. They no longer fear death. There are many such videos on TH-cam. I’m a golfer. You can go to the TH-cam video of Lee Trevino talking about passing over when he was hit by lightning.
The shroud of Turin is strong evidence to support that Jesus was real. I believe.
shroud of turin has been proven to be fake
@thinkingaboutit1906 Wrong. Just a few days ago they proved it is 2000 years old. Look it up. It's all over the news.
@@thinkingaboutit1906 check the news
Xray flax celuliod sugar molecules proved it to be 2000 years old.
@@unclematt3134 no it proves someone is desperate enough to make it true
40 years not 100
You’ll like the breakdown at the end of the video, I think 🙌
Yes that’s more reasonable but it was quite possibly mere years after with the first creeds already established and widely circulated within weeks. And the gospels may be some of the first ever peer reviewed factual documents because the community which included those thousands who walked with and saw Jesus accepted or rejected various writings based on their accuracy and obvious inspiration hence why the New Testament we have is the New Testament we have.
The existence of Jesus should not be debatable. If this person and his sacrifice is so important for the world god should have made it undeniable.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Atheists
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
J Warner Wallace, as a leading cold case detective, presents the more persuasive argument regarding the facts of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Jesus that's sad
I love your channel I always am drawn back to it, over and over and over again! Love the Socratic method you use in your apologetics.
In case someone were to ask, what is the chain of command for Ignatius, Polycarp, etc.? How do we know someone down the line didn’t change their story about Who Jesus is?
lol the historicity of Jesus has long been established, there is no controversy in any meaningful sense even about the resurrection facts across academic scholars this is beyond cringe worthy they are this ignorant.
0:43 it was 30 years after his death. The first book was written in 60 ad or 70 ad by the apostles.
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Mathew was written 30 years after the crucifixion, then the Didache, then the rest of the Gospels, then the letters to the churchs, then revelation, then 1st Clement about 80A.D., Ignatius of Antioch in 108, then Justin Martyr.
Our greatest historians and scholars and historians cannot deny his existence as they don’t.
His majesty and divinity too …as all in turn will come to understand.
Amen 🙏
I daily struggle with free will, having seen the light/a ghost when I was 8. I don't feel in my bones like I have a choice in the matter to do what is the morally right thing. And, I struggle living with myself if I falter from the path.
Thank you for all your videos. I love them.
When was this show recorded - because Joe Rogan seemed to change his mind on things regarding Jesus Christ ?
But that might be wrong.
Id be really interested to hear your thoughts on Joe Rogan's recent podcast with Jack Symes
What I would like to know is why there are so many different stories that are the same. Mainly what changes are names a few things but most the same story. I believe Joe Rogan was about to say that next in the clip here.
People, just because JR is popular, makes too much money, does not equate to intelligence or even being well read. He is of average intelligence, sounds like Joe 6-pack, believes in myths and urban legends, is still steeped in secular brainwashing. For him to think Jesus is just some type of myth is amazing. Jesus existed as a human, died like a human, and there were witnesses galore. I like that he at least asks tough questions but he helps perpetuate myths and legends through his lack or knowledge and research.
Watch or read "A Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. Nuff said.
Do you mind doing a video on slavery in the OT and how it’s not immoral. Thanks!
Could someone please link the full video of the investigator showing the early time lines? Looks incredible
Thank you for all you do brother!
First line and Rogan is well out. "Jesus as a historical figure is controversial."
NOOOO! A couple of fringe thinkers question him, but he is one of the greatest attested people in history! From Rogan's very first sentence, you know that he does not know this field at all.
Read the works of Flavius Josephus. He lived while Jesus was here, wasn't a follower of Jesus, but wrote quite a bit about Jesus.
there was a writing by a roman subject , completely out of the realm of any religion, who was writing to some authority in Rome, about Jesus , it's been a long time ago for me and i don't really remember the particulars just the fact that a roman official was writing some other official concerning the person called Jesus and verifying his existence. both these roman citizens were verified to have existed too .
CORRECTION @ 0:41, The earliest gospel completed, Book of Matthew, was estimated to have been finished just 7.5 years after Jesus' death and resurrection, not 100 years as mentioned in this video. The books that took the longest time to complete, which were books and letters written by the Apostle John, took 65 years to complete. Paul's letters were completed just 30 years after Jesus' death and resurrection. In general, while exact writing durations are not known, we do have a clue as to when these writings were completed. The Holy Scriptures is estimated to have been completed 65 years after Jesus' death and resurrection.
It would be nice if the speaker described in more detail what he means by the Apostle John taking a “Polaroid” of the crucifixion. And then he passes that on to his three students who become church leaders. This doesn’t strike me as substantive.
RIP Nabeel, may he rest in Gods Glory
Read the “Case for Christ “ by Lee Strobel
Apostle Paul records the Christian Creed in 1 Cor 15, by referencing 'scripture' already written, this was around 51-52 AD, a mere 18 years after Jesus resurrection in 33 AD. The ultimate polaroid was provided by God on the Shroud of Turin at the very moment of resurrection, which has been authenticated by now thru many scientific methods.
Keep reading your book Wisdom 👍🏻
Even Jewish scholars who look at historical accounts accept Jesus existed while not agreeing with His claims. Similarly, though I don't particularly trust the source, the quran references Jesus from the writings that were available in Mohammeds time..
There is definitely evidence for Jesus, that is, without doubt!
thank you for this, you broke it down so well. God bless
Thank you brother for your videos, very helpful and informative. God Bless
The thought of evidence outside of the bible is not wrongheaded. It's just seeking evidence to show those who do not believe that, at the very least, he was a real person. If you keep introducing the Bible you will lose those who are ardently against religion.
Terrific commentary on Jesus
There was not a thing said in this podcast that would convince a non-believer that Christ actually existed. The actions of early Christians does not speak to the authenticity of the historical claim that Jesus Christ existed.
Even the Quran mentions Jesus and doesn't dispute that he performed many incredible miracles.
Thousands of years and nothing has changed,
the BATTLE to the DEATH on planet Earth
is still
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS versus the CREATOR and HIS CHRIST
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
KNOW
and are fully aware that they are unitedly opposed, against, and -
1. will never ever accept that the Creator is the True and Sovereign God
and
2. will never ever submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
The Creator KNOWS
that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is definitely NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
but
ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
also NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
but
ONLY for loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
who
are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
That was an older Rogan clip, I think he’s changed his stance on the subject at least some after having Stephen Meyer etc. on the show.
Why won't J. Warner Wallace debate Sergeant Skeptic?
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom-2 My apologies but I am slightly confused. Is this an invitation for a private discussion? or some other message? I have invited Detective Wallace to debate numerous times. He has always refused. Why?
Still glad that you are with us friend.
John was most likely an eye witness of Jesus and Mathew too. Mark and Luke most likely from oral tradition.
So in other words, Paul had No idea who Jesus was as a person. He simply decided that he was as scared of death as most humans and decided to buy into the whole charade to make himself feel more emotionally secure. But those emotions are often derived from emotion and Not fact.
Is it true that Jesus wasn't his real name and that the name Jesus was given to him by the Greeks 100+ years after he had died?
From Nigeria.how can I join the wisdom society
Gary Habermas has a new book out too, his magnum opus. Its 2 volumes atleast.
Why is it so hard to believe, that Mark who wrote The Good News according to Mark, was in fact apostle Peter's son?1Pet 5:13: "The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, salutes you; and so does Marcus my son."
That girl should know the basic view of NT writings, earliest is 42 ad, gospels about 25-30 yrs later even by liberal standards
The first gospel was written within claims 60years of jesus, by first hand witnesses. The veracity of which can be tested with internal references from other books of the Bible and external literature as well.
People argue this issue of reliability of scripture based on shallow or misunderstanding of how history is captured over time. And they unfortunately do not impose the same degree of questioning to other claims other than Christianity.
It's often frustrating when people who have microphones speak on issues but don't have the commitment to go do the actual research. There's often a lot of intellectual dishonesty to their sweeping claims.
SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The lives, dignities, and existence of the Creator and Jesus Christ are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are unitedly and openly slandering, mocking, and degrading -
1. the Creator as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
and
2. Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth
while
the Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Keep in mind that a non Christian HAS NO ABILITY WHAT-SO-EVER to discern God in ANY FORM. If you're not called - He's invisible to you and your spirit DOES NOT seek his face. If He has called you then and only then can you even begin to see His hand in nature and discern the sprits of the those around you. So don't try and convince the unregenerate with logic/arguments. They cannot see Him - at all.
Yes a Rabbi who was teaching Rabbi Hillel teachings (the Golden Rule, don't judge, be good to enemies...) and Persian apocalyptic beliefs probably existed. Josephus writes about many of these messianic figures. But the supernatural tales in the Gospels are myth taken from Hellenistic theology.
Warner Wallace is a homicide detective and Christian apologist. He is not an expert in historical scholarship. Nabeel Asif Qureshi was a Pakistani-American evangelical Christian apologist. Not at all trained in historical scholarship. A 400 year old field that the general public is largely unaware unless you read the books by the scholars. Bart Ehrman writes about how shocked fundamentalists are when they switch from theology to historical studies. Every scholar with a PhD in critical-history is absolutely positive the evidence is that Christianity is a combination of Judaism, Persian beliefs and mostly Hellenism.
David Litwa teaches online courses on these Greek influenced religions. Richard Miller writes about them as well. The experts on Hellenism and it's influence on the Gospels are James Tabor, J.Z. Smith, Klauck, and the Persian experts are Mary Boyce and John Collins.
Ignatius is writing at the end of the 2nd century, his letters are in Elaine Pagels "The Gnostic Gospels". He didn't like the various Gnostic groups and wanted a power structure of priests and bishops who could be the only teachers, interpreters and readers of what scripture he wanted.
He mentions Matthew but has different things in the Gospel. He is over 1 century later. It would be like someone right now saying Mormonism is the true religion. Except they didn't have access to books, internet, papers like we do. He bought into a story in the Gospels. Just like 1 billion in Islam bought into the Quran 1 century later. These are bad apologetics designed to convince people who do not care about what is actually true. He never sources one single historian.
Many like Miller and Ehrman were fundamentalists who swore their beliefs would never be shaken. They are now secular. When you believe amateur apologists over an entire field of study, with specialists in every area (Gospel dates/names added, Synoptic Problem, Acts, Persian influence, Greek influence, Mesopotamian influence on Genesis, Joel Baden on the Pentatuch, Fransesca Stavrakopolou on early Yahweh and what the original Hebrew said and of course archaeologists like Dever, Meyers and Finklestein, then you are just doing what Mormons, Islam, and every other group trying to make a myth historical and ignoring the vast amount of evidence that has been found over centuries.
In the Yale Divinity Lectures "Old Testament Interpretation 1 and 2" he goes over the places we first see Persian borrowings in the late OT books.
James Tabors content is free on youtube and his website. When the Greeks occupied a nation from 300 BCE to the 1st century the local religions were changed, all in the same way. They took on personal salvation through a son/daughter of the supreme God, we have a soul that belongs in it's rightful home (Heaven), baptism is a spiritual union with the passion of the savior and resurrection is not bodily but spiritual.
In the OT the dead just slept in Sheol. The theology changed with Persian influence and with Greek influence. All historical scholars say the same thing because this is what the evidence shows.
J.Z. Smith explains in the Britannica article about Hellenism what religions took from Hellenism. We have a Syrian version, we have a Persian version, an Egyptian version, it’s the same package that spreads from the Greek colonists. It’s very Greek but borrows from local cultures. The last version was the Jewish version, the NT.
-the seasonal drama was homologized to a soteriology (salvation concept) concerning the destiny, fortune, and salvation of the individual after death.
-his led to a change from concern for a religion of national prosperity to one for individual salvation, from focus on a particular ethnic group to concern for every human. The prophet or saviour replaced the priest and king as the chief religious figure.
-his process was carried further through the identification of the experiences of the soul that was to be saved with the vicissitudes of a divine but fallen soul, which had to be redeemed by cultic activity and divine intervention. This view is illustrated in the concept of the paradoxical figure of the saved saviour, salvator salvandus.
-Other deities, who had previously been associated with national destiny (e.g., Zeus, Yahweh, and Isis), were raised to the status of transcendent, supreme
-The temples and cult institutions of the various Hellenistic religions were repositories of the knowledge and techniques necessary for salvation and were the agents of the public worship of a particular deity. In addition, they served an important sociological role. In the new, cosmopolitan ideology that followed Alexander’s conquests, the old nationalistic and ethnic boundaries had broken down and the problem of religious and social identity had become acute.
-Most of these groups had regular meetings for a communal meal that served the dual role of sacramental participation (referring to the use of material elements believed to convey spiritual benefits among the members and with their deity)
-Hellenistic philosophy (Stoicism, Cynicism, Neo-Aristotelianism, Neo-Pythagoreanism, and Neoplatonism) provided key formulations for Jewish, Christian, and Muslim philosophy, theology, and mysticism through the 18th century
- The basic forms of worship of both the Jewish and Christian communities were heavily influenced in their formative period by Hellenistic practices, and this remains fundamentally unchanged to the present time. Finally, the central religious literature of both traditions-the Jewish Talmud (an authoritative compendium of law, lore, and interpretation), the New Testament, and the later patristic literature of the early Church Fathers-are characteristic Hellenistic documents both in form and content.
-Other traditions even more radically reinterpreted the ancient figures. The cosmic or seasonal drama was interiorized to refer to the divine soul within man that must be liberated.
-Each persisted in its native land with little perceptible change save for its becoming linked to nationalistic or messianic movements (centring on a deliverer figure)
-and apocalyptic traditions (referring to a belief in the dramatic intervention of a god in human and natural events)
- Particularly noticeable was the success of a variety of prophets, magicians, and healers-e.g., John the Baptist, Jesus, Simon Magus, Apollonius of Tyana, Alexander the Paphlagonian, and the cult of the healer Asclepius-whose preaching corresponded to the activities of various Greek and Roman philosophic missionaries
That describes the change from the OT to the NT exactly. Yet all the Mystery religions used these beliefs.
So Rogan is basically correct, he just doesn't know the specifics.
Nabeel man! I miss this guy!
comparing the evidence of tiberius caesar and jesus existing is like comparing evidence of dinosaurs and unicorns existing: for one there is actual physical evidence from that timeline like sculptures, coins and even ruins of locations where they lived and for the other one there is nothing from that time period at all...
There's literally a letter written to Tiberius Caesar from Pontius Pilate describing the execution of Jesus Christ
@@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY a letter written by someone else many years after something happened is physical proof of that someone else, not of what they write about