The Coming Tests and Trials and Glory

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2015
  • www.lds.org/general-conferenc... Elder Bruce R. McConkie delivers a message "The Coming Tests and Trials and Glory."

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  • @tonymiller9084
    @tonymiller9084 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is 43 yrs ago when he said adulterers and homosexuals and murderers wouldn't even try to hide themselves........um 2023 anyone. These apostles and prophets are watchmen on the towers. they KNOW the future. How comforting to be on the Lord's side!

  • @rosejakub9842
    @rosejakub9842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Being a Navajo interpreter for those many years and still to this day for the Church my testimony has been strenghten.

    • @johnharvey4448
      @johnharvey4448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      NAVAJO interpreter, wow. Hadn't heard of such before, yet obviously they exist/ed.

    • @jtaydees
      @jtaydees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      My Dads “Brother” is translating the BoM into the Navajo language for the Church.

    • @raihakingi6954
      @raihakingi6954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jtaydees awesome!

    • @TheCliffy007
      @TheCliffy007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      amazing!@@jtaydees

  • @user-bq5yw3eb4x
    @user-bq5yw3eb4x หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brother McConkie IS prophetic! Forever and ever.

  • @dellenelafontaine1342
    @dellenelafontaine1342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I will always remember Bruce R. Mckonkie. A man with unending love for his Savior. He was at a stake Conference in Jacksonville Florida and he went down every row in that chapel and shook everyones hand. My sons got his autograph. Little could i imagine what a historical time that was. It was so special.

  • @sesispace5972
    @sesispace5972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Can't wait until the second coming comes! ❤️

    • @wallybrown9509
      @wallybrown9509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m looking forward to that great day aswell.

    • @ralphwelliver7104
      @ralphwelliver7104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Live like it is already here.

  • @bobhaire3039
    @bobhaire3039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    You sat up a little straighter at General Conference when Bruce R McConkie began to speak.

  • @mustanggun
    @mustanggun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Brother McConkie was so prophetic. Always calling it like it is, unmasked, and direct, no political correctness. I love it.

    • @maga1035
      @maga1035 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is giving me chills, not gonna lie. We have to be careful on social media and take frequent breaks. The new Jerusalem is coming very close and very soon. We need to be very prepared for an economic crash and possibly a war.

    • @VaughnBrown1965
      @VaughnBrown1965 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I miss apostles like Bruce R. Holland is close.

    • @VaughnBrown1965
      @VaughnBrown1965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fearless. So great

  • @jonrogers1022
    @jonrogers1022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Truly this was an apostle of the Living Christ.

  • @j.dambrosio3423
    @j.dambrosio3423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Elder McConkie saw our day with exactness. I’m very thankful for his words and for the words of our Prophet and Apostles today!

  • @CordelieaKronoss
    @CordelieaKronoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it amazes me how clearly these prophets and apostles saw our day even 40 years in the future. I couldn't believe when I heard him describing the future and we are living what he saw 40 years ago.

  • @pmedford65
    @pmedford65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love these conference talks.

  • @l.richmondchilds9548
    @l.richmondchilds9548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    About 40 + years ago my nonmember investigators bought me a copy of Mormon Doctrine by Elder Bruce Redd Mckonkie, I cherish it to this very day! Mat the Lord continue to Bless and Inspire PROPHETS, SEERS & REVELATORS Sisters too!

  • @shawnbrigance3993
    @shawnbrigance3993 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A Prophet, Seer and Revelator, in word and deed.

  • @lindamoses3697
    @lindamoses3697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    He has such a poetically powerful way of speaking combined with his powerful calling and Preisthood makes his sermons works of theological art.

  • @davidthompson3415
    @davidthompson3415 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Complete truth is the only thing this guy is speaking. I am humbled to recognize his words of truth❤

  • @4pinky2011
    @4pinky2011 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "O' HEAR YE' AN APOSTLE OF THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH"

  • @debbain5864
    @debbain5864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is today. As a seer, he saw our day.

  • @guardianangel9517
    @guardianangel9517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love and feel all that this man has to say. He has the holy spirit with him 100%

  • @SJKile
    @SJKile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can’t get enough of Bruce R McConkie. There was no greater Apostle unto Jesus Christ than him.

    • @brianastle6954
      @brianastle6954 ปีที่แล้ว

      While I understand the tendency to make such comparisons, and I surely know each of us individually respond to specific special witnesses, I am reminded that every member and every leader has his or her own place. With Father there is no respecter of persons and He has provided specific ministering servants for all and for specific times. We sustain them all and honor each in his or her place as we follow the words of the Master that flow from each one that are dictated by the Holy Spirit.

  • @ronsmith9251
    @ronsmith9251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    39 years ago, how right he is about our day.

    • @UnderTheRadar5
      @UnderTheRadar5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is all foretold in the scriprures :)

    • @theephraimite
      @theephraimite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      BarmyBass1 this spoken word can also be scripture.

  • @katherinem.4414
    @katherinem.4414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have the trials…when will the glory come?? How long will it be?? I pray 🙏 I will remain worthy. I pray for strength to endure, and add energy and motivation to keep going and doing what I need to do.

  • @hippiechickandvintagetom
    @hippiechickandvintagetom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    True words that have and will come. Praise the LORD!

  • @christophertolman7023
    @christophertolman7023 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    We must continue to pray, and work to spread the message of the gospel.

    • @angelikabertrand4045
      @angelikabertrand4045 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No matter what faith. We are all equally intervined. And its time that we all respect each oter. Show love, kindness, compassion and acceptance. Whether we are LDS,Armish, Lutheran, Chatholics and you name it.
      Its what Christs Lord and his early church in Greece wanted us to do.
      Have Faith all of you.
      We will conquer together.
      God Bless.
      From a Protestant Lutheran.

  • @endurancescooters
    @endurancescooters 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    That talk was given over 37 years ago...... and we see he knows what he was talking about.

  • @denniswilliams6801
    @denniswilliams6801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I was there when he gave his final testimony, I will never forget!

    • @saragroves4103
      @saragroves4103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So was I. Profound and tender!

    • @vmarden1972
      @vmarden1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was a game changer for my Testimony.

    • @brianastle6954
      @brianastle6954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You were surely blessed!!

  • @gwenmangelson
    @gwenmangelson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Prophecies being fulfilled in 2020

  • @PapaKryptoss
    @PapaKryptoss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    When I was a teenager I'd never seen a prophet and he came to our stake for conference. I got to shake his hand. He signed my scriptures. Every time I open them up and see his name I think of that day and how excited he was to teach us.

    • @dericksuapaia
      @dericksuapaia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      PapaKryptoss I thought the same. And then we had the dedication of the Laie Temple... although I didn’t get to shake Thomas S. Monson, he shook my heart, and I was overwhelmed with the spirit. I am probably one of the worst members in the church. Without any doubt in my mind, I know this church is true. I am, and everyone living is a living testament to that. I just wish we all aspired to be the person Heavenly Father wants us to be. I wish that for myself as well.

    • @johnharvey4448
      @johnharvey4448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dericksuapaia Didn't get to shake his hand, yet, he shook my heart. I like that.

    • @PapaKryptoss
      @PapaKryptoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@dericksuapaia You are not the worst person in the church. I dug a pit 15 years ago and still Digging my way out. But as I climb up I keep looking up to my Lord and my King. I may never make it to where my King lives, but I will try my best to prepare my unworthy self to see Him one day

    • @cumorahwatson1967
      @cumorahwatson1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dericksuapaia
      I'm sure, your not the worst!
      You are a child of God, and He knew you would stumble and fall.
      But He also knew you would have to he strength to get back up, and keep choosing the right.
      He love's you, and believes in you always!❤🙏
      Keep the faith, my friend.
      Your worth it, as my mother always says.👍😊

    • @cumorahwatson1967
      @cumorahwatson1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PapaKryptoss
      Aww bless ya!
      With Jesus Christ all is possible!
      All sins are washed away, by his grace and love, He has for all if us.❤🙏
      Sometimes He's already forgiven us! But We need to forgive ourselves too.
      And then keep walking farward.
      😊❤

  • @tjkasgl
    @tjkasgl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This just strengthens my conviction we are at the end of the end days. In his day they preached physical preparedness, such as food storage. Our property now tells us to prepare to meet God and not to worry about food storage. We are at the twelfth hour, keep the oil in your lamps filled to the brim

    • @hyrumgrandy129
      @hyrumgrandy129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are still telling us to get food storage. All of Erope was just told by an apostle to get more physical preperations against the day of famine.

  • @mmelbaparilla2890
    @mmelbaparilla2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very inspiring message, that I listened to it over again, thank you very much for uploading...

  • @guadalupesoriano9163
    @guadalupesoriano9163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you veru much for hearing this wonderful talk that help me strengthen my faith in Jesus Christ and testi.testimony strengthened me. I'm very grateful for the gospel of Jesus Christ and the teaching of our prophets and seers and revelators and all our leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints in the name of Jesus Christ amen.

  • @gloriahormazabal2913
    @gloriahormazabal2913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An Apostle oh God describing our days!

  • @wallybrown9509
    @wallybrown9509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amen and amen Elder McConkie. We follow the Lord God.

  • @jtwoolley
    @jtwoolley ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this man!

  • @davidhonaker
    @davidhonaker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Amazing how he saw our time (and times ahead) and describes it so precisely. Back then, what, about 20 temples? Now they, "dot the earth".

    • @LiwaySaGu
      @LiwaySaGu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow you made this comment 3 years ago. just last conference pres nelson announced 20 new temples! i got chills

  • @shawnajensenjohnson5482
    @shawnajensenjohnson5482 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Thank you forever for your beloved inspiration truth and words. Apostles are so right! This is exactly what has happened in our era today. So grateful for Saviors words eachday to read in scriptures for guidance and the church in our dispensation. We are so blessed!

  • @kellymcdonald1895
    @kellymcdonald1895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    One of the greatest talks I have ever heard, oh is he right!

  • @lindabarnes1585
    @lindabarnes1585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for the time and effort you put forth to bring us these words of wisdom and warning.

  • @sharipeterson3654
    @sharipeterson3654 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    He was an amazing man, teacher, and leader. I'm sure he is still working for us today.

  • @kerryanne6422
    @kerryanne6422 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thank you for posting this. I enjoyed it very much.

  • @85yellowpuff
    @85yellowpuff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love this man.

  • @bannanapancake
    @bannanapancake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If he was saying that then... look at us now:/ keep the faith whoever you are!

  • @margosears1365
    @margosears1365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amen 🙏

  • @Beobout6
    @Beobout6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It is so interesting to hear what was said 40 some years ago is coming true. I love the part about The evil “secret combinations” and Gadiaton Robbers being destroyed. There will finally be peace, you’ll be able to walk the streets without getting mugged. Maybe not in my time but soon.

    • @johnharvey4448
      @johnharvey4448 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonder what the evil secret combinations refers to.

    • @dlariby
      @dlariby 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnharvey4448 Watch documentary "Agenda," by Curtis Bowers.

  • @drsbrettsavage
    @drsbrettsavage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    We love and miss you Elder McConkie.

  • @justinhayward42
    @justinhayward42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great talk!

  • @robertov.maldonado8219
    @robertov.maldonado8219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What could I add to the most gitfes of the Lord's Elders ,know to the fullest of the truth the gosple of Heavenly Father ,will though Jesus the Christ I can never hear or feel the gospel as one can all thanks to Brother of the faith .Amen.

  • @martinandersen9810
    @martinandersen9810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More true today than ever.

  • @katiehall3313
    @katiehall3313 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great Talks

  • @josephshumway
    @josephshumway ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this

  • @jorgerannierytorogarcia1416
    @jorgerannierytorogarcia1416 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very true

  • @isabelgarcia891
    @isabelgarcia891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great mensaje I am so grateful for the Prophets

  • @djahiaboussou6695
    @djahiaboussou6695 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    April 1980 General Conference.

  • @zacharypinegar3111
    @zacharypinegar3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, that's my Aunt Becky's Dad.

  • @kellymcdonald1895
    @kellymcdonald1895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Elder McConkie

  • @MrManta2012
    @MrManta2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is a great announcement they we acknowledge that our Muslim brothers will receive what is due them. They will receive that what they have been promised. we as Mormon's do not think they will be punished for following their religion. They will be rewarded for their faith and good deeds.

    • @dlariby
      @dlariby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We try to get away from the term "Mormon" in our usage.

  • @tewsrus
    @tewsrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tough times ahead at 10:30 to about 13:00 This was in about 1981

  • @TempleScoop
    @TempleScoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Elder McConkie saw all of this coming with exactness shows a need to have a modern-day revelation- Chad James

  • @justinanderson6189
    @justinanderson6189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We love and miss you, but know you soldier on!

  • @whatmattersmarshall
    @whatmattersmarshall 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Interesting to think about how this would be received today. Probably not so well.

    • @AA-Wilson
      @AA-Wilson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Marshall T. Ya, were sensitive and need safe spaces today. A shame and a pitty!

    • @happylatter-daysaint3503
      @happylatter-daysaint3503 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AA-Wilson, Ha ha! You are so right. Actually, I probably shouldn't laugh at that. It is quite sad. I am 39 years old & I am shocked at the state of our country. May God bless & watch over us all as we strive to live the commandments & be light unto the world. ❤❤❤

    • @lukeslc-xd8ds
      @lukeslc-xd8ds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You would not hear this talk in conference today. It would offend too many members of the Church, as would teachings and talks by Spencer W. Kimball.

    • @marklaymon6698
      @marklaymon6698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try Harold B. Lee's talk about Liberal Church members. Oh how I loved when men could be so bold.

    • @johnharvey4448
      @johnharvey4448 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marklaymon6698 Will.

  • @77thNYSV
    @77thNYSV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How many members of the church today would be able to handle his talks?

    • @gregbriggs4540
      @gregbriggs4540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This one for sure. I am A little tired of sugar coating

    • @benzun9600
      @benzun9600 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      how many leaders today would be able to talk like this? Probably 3 of them

  • @Tova-Barin
    @Tova-Barin ปีที่แล้ว

    “We see…” He totally spoke as a Seer. In God we trust.

  • @jtwoolley
    @jtwoolley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is amazing.

  • @cumorahwatson1967
    @cumorahwatson1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ❤😊

  • @rodhancock3549
    @rodhancock3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The General Authorities don’t speak like this anymore.

  • @Jan-wd1is
    @Jan-wd1is 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He has described our day, exactly! We see it all coming to pass.

  • @lukeslc-xd8ds
    @lukeslc-xd8ds 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I fear that the Church (members) in some ways are way to liberal to hear this message today. Just sayin'.

    • @johnharvey4448
      @johnharvey4448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think that may be true. Probably people in general, maybe even Christians in general.

    • @strawberryme08
      @strawberryme08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Liberal or prideful ;) God will soon humble us all. Hold on it’s coming oxo

    • @sandietigert4019
      @sandietigert4019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      especially NOW!....

    • @ForGlory
      @ForGlory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THAT'S
      BECAUSE
      THEY
      ARE.
      And just for Those With Ears to Hear and between you and me: THE "TRIBULATIONS" WILL BE CAUSED FOR THE MOST PART BY THOSE HYPOCRITES AMONG MEMBERS WHO ARE LIBERAL!
      The traitors in Nauvoo ARE NOT behind us! The worst of them ARE TO COME IN THE DAYS AHEAD!
      WORD TO THE WISE!

  • @alwaysluvedtobeluved
    @alwaysluvedtobeluved 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know what year this was given?

  • @stevemarty8558
    @stevemarty8558 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be helpful if the date of this talk was listed

    • @Tova-Barin
      @Tova-Barin ปีที่แล้ว

      April 1980. Can always google it…

  • @ajaxinfinitum5604
    @ajaxinfinitum5604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "God's..."

  • @TIKALVIDEO1
    @TIKALVIDEO1 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO DATE OF THIS CONFERENCE?

  • @christikovach6394
    @christikovach6394 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1972 ???

    • @davidhonaker
      @davidhonaker 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christi Kovach I think 1978, but not certain.

    • @daviddeneau9524
      @daviddeneau9524 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      April 1980 General Conference

    • @sharipeterson3654
      @sharipeterson3654 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      April 1980

    • @Seek-God-First
      @Seek-God-First 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      general-conference/1980/04/the-coming-tests-and-trials-and-glory

    • @normanstevens5014
      @normanstevens5014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The elect are being gathered

  • @762cat
    @762cat ปีที่แล้ว

    How come the church isn't saying anything now this stuff is eight years ago

  • @tonywittig9107
    @tonywittig9107 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The twelve today are good men but none of them are giants like elder mcconkie and elder maxwell were!

  • @Glen.Danielsen
    @Glen.Danielsen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dearly love this cherished apostle. But I am heart-sickened to hear him describe blacks as _the seed of Cain._

    • @johnharvey4448
      @johnharvey4448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Glen M. Danielson wrote 'But I am heart-sickened to hear him describe blacks as the seed of Cain.' When did you hear him do that ? I've just listened to the conference talk above, and he didn't describe blacks as the seed of cain. He said 'We see the seed of Cain long denied that priestly power which makes men rulers over many kingdoms rise up and bless Abraham as their Father'.
      Yet, even if he were to do :
      Is it not true that Cain had children ?
      Is it not true that we are all descended from people such as Adam, Cain, Abel ?
      Is it not true that the bible says that Cain would be denied the privilege of holding the preiesthood having been first to enter into secret combination of murder with Satan ? And, committing murder, fraticide even ?
      God made different races it is true. God didn't make racism.
      Are you so conditioned by the current climate, media, manipulation that you find anything to do with race sickenning ?
      People are descended from people, God offers and withdraws privileges and responsibilities according to His wisdom and authority. Nothing new there.
      Personally I think priesthood being forfeited was because of lineage, not colour nor race.
      If God had given priesthood to Cain people would say : I'm am heart-sickened that God has allowed Cain the first to enter into conspiracy with Satan, and, the first to conspire to murder to hold the Priesthood of God.

    • @bob15479
      @bob15479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s because he want a prophet. He was a random dude who believed his inner intuition was the word of god.

    • @gregbriggs4540
      @gregbriggs4540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bob15479 I have always recognized that Private writings of prophets and apostles are always a combination of what the spirit has revealed to them personally but also contains some of their own interpretation or opinion on the subject and the spirit has at times confirmed what they said and others I have come away with a view that that though it might be a true principle their interpretive opinion is also involved. I love Bruce R McConkie's work, his book on another witness for the articles of faith just like Talmage's version is one of my favorites but just like people of my generation are more familiar with Hinckley, Maxwell, Monson , and Boyd K Packer. McConkie, Kimball, and McKay are more recognizable to my parents generation. The same is true of theologians like Nibley and CS Lewis who are more familiar with the older generation but mine are more aware of Daniel C Peterson, Truman G Madsen, or John McGee. McConkie was always a brilliant apostle and scholar but even he for example when official declaration 2 came out in conference stated that due to the further light and knowledge revealed through Kimball he said some of what he had written in his personal writings was incorrect. This always seems to be the sad mistake of people both in and outside the church believer and critic alike is that we have a false image of what the calling of apostle and prophet really are and that for some reason they are always plugged in to the will of deity. Joseph Smith himself lamented this continually throughout his life that he couldn't get people to understand in that when he was officiating in the office of his calling and was being moved upon by the spirit to direct the church he was a prophet but the rest of the time he was a man like any other and subject to mistakes and faults. For example during the Kirtland banking crisis despite he and many church members investing in the secular business it failed during the financial crisis of the time as if being a prophet all of a sudden makes you a financial wizard. Nor does it account for just natural human mistakes by him and others. Yet when the Lord directed in doctrine and covenants on certain financial matters they were able to meet their obligations or it opened the door to new opportunities. Moses made a similar mistake with his opinion in regards to the children of Israel with using the staff on the rock to bring out water when the lord had told him just to command the water to come out. He lost his chance to enter the promised land because of it but he did not cease to be a prophet nor did the lord reject him. Among the apostles Paul had severe differences of opinion on subjects with Peter, and I believe Matthias, there were others as well. Incidentally this is probably the reason the church has never fully pushed the journal of discourses. I love it but you can definitely tell sometimes their own opinions on certain subjects were expressed in a time when the church was more focused on survival and establishing itself rather than making certain every utterance from the pulpit had the lords endorsement through the church leadership. Remember the Lord has to work with us where we are not where we want to be. Many of McConkies and others writings have given me insight into scriptural topics and there are times I agree and others I have a different take on but that is part of personal study. The spirit will confirm the truth. others we can file away until as McConkie said further light an knowledge is brought forth and then we can examine our past opinions in regards to it. Sometimes we are right others we are wrong sometimes we are right even if the world says otherwise and as time goes on we are vindicated while their theories continue to rise and fall. Sorry for the long answer.

    • @mesinjah
      @mesinjah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're heart sickened because of what cain did and the curse that he brought upon his children?