Should Black America Support Nate Parker's 'Birth Of A Nation' Amid A Decades-Old Rape Case Scandal?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Ahead of the release of Nate Parker‘s critically acclaimed biopic, The Birth of a Nation, a decades-old rape case has resurfaced, resulting in a major controversy for the filmmaker.
As a result of the allegations, many are calling for a boycott of the film, which debuted at the Sundance Film Festival and was purchased by Fox Searchlight for $17.5 million.
On Thursday’s edition of NewsOne Now, Roland Martin and his panel of guests discussed the controversy surrounding Parker, the 1999 rape case, the upcoming release of this film, and if African-Americans should support it amid the scandal.
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First of all... If y'all read the fucking rape report, It clearly states that she said her and Nate had "Consensual" sex... Meaning she gave her consent to have sex with Nate... She had sex with him and his friend the same night but later regretted it and tried to pin rape on his friend.... So idk why Nate is being brought into this. Either way the judge said they were both innocent.... She shouldn't have been sleeping with two dudes anyway.... Then hollering rape is so messed up when that's not even what happened... Sad ass and this was when he was 19 years old anyway why tf is this being brought up??? He didn't even do anything wrong. I also find it very odd how he has this great movie coming out then all of a sudden these reports come out smh they don't wanna see a black man win. Watch that movie DOMINATE THE BOX OFFICE... y'all can't stop what God has for Nate.
she also had sex with him the next morning (after the alleged incident of rape)
+manazerine baptiste Right, she wanted to engage in sexual activities with him. So how is that rape? Nothing was forced, it's all in the report. These dumb ass people need to READ
Happens every time a Good true movie comes out about us strong men. 19 yrs., no problem. Sam things with Cosby.
Some influential people don't want Parker's Birth of a Nation seen. Amy Schumer has sex with someone too intoxicated to know what is happening, and no one bothers her.
What's sad is that we fall for it.
im a sexual abuse survivor and i support women rights. With that said I think this is some sort of barrier put in place to stop people from seeing this film. Especially with the social climate in black america right now.Where were these people when his last film was out? He was the lead male role in that film. He has done several films. But now we are supposed to condem him for a crime he was aquitted of 17 years ago? I will be seeing this film and I'm taking my sons.
thanks for sharing your life which should help many survivors.
Queen, sorry for your past sexual abuse but glad you made it through. I agree with you. He's made many movies in the past so where does this fake outrage come from all of a sudden and why? Hmmm.. Rhetorical questions of course. I'm supporting the film as well. Another thing to think about, Nate is a black man accused of raping a white woman and was acquitted. "Where they do that at?" If there was the slightest hint of him being guilty he would still be behind bars. Either he was innocent or she had some grossly incompetent lawyers.
Intelligent black woman and that's really cool that you take your sons. coming from a 20 year old black male
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+shyvixx100 because she accused him falsely and couldn't bear to live with the guilt.
Where was the outrage when the Stanford University college student (white ) who was caught in the act and served no time.
to be fair people are trying to get that judge off the bench
To be fair about what! The case is over.
Rodney Jackson can't be mad at the kid because his dad made moves. The Judge has the final verdict. The judge is at fault...the judge wasn't fair or thought about the victim looking for justice. I just pointed out there is a movement to get him off the bench.
Get the fuck out of here with that bs excuse. Made moves my ass. You people kill me when it's one of your own you have all the excuses in the world. That dude should be in jail right now and you know it. So don't come to me talking about you can't be made because his father made moves, and you bring up an old case where this man won in the so called court of law. You people are still mad that OJ won in your courts. Antonio Hector
Antonio Hector There isn't nothing about what you are saying, or have said that tends to make me believe that you are anything black. Your damn right it's one of my own, and you fuckin right WE are circling the wagons around our own. You people troll our chanels, and make statements to try and divide my people. I don't give a fuck how many black movies you through out your taco ass. Get the fuck out here bitch! The mere fact that you are taking up for this bitch ass white boy and his daddy says it all. So miss me with that " his dad made moves bull shit!" You don't know what to tell me, because you can't tell me ANYTHING!
HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY. IM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE FILM. I WISH HIM ALL THE VERY BEST.
nate was found not guilty bc they couldn't found any proof of the rape so BY DEFAULT he was found not guilty but that doesn't mean he is an innocent man! he shouldn't been running trains on drunk white girl in the first place, and inviting others into the mix so he put himself in that position so I have no sympathy for ass or his sex train buddy who cowrote the movie!
I will watch the movie bc I've always been interested in the story but i won't support film at the theatre bc that would be supporting nate parker! I don't care to make him and his wife richer so I'll wait until I see one of the little Mexican guys on the street with their bootlegging dvd copies and I'll buy the $3 $4 DVD from them, this way I can watch it without contributing to nate parker's pockets!
YOUR POINT IS NOTEWORTHY AND I RESPECT YOUR OPINION. BLESSINGS.
I am with you. I will be supporting the film.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR POSITIVE COMMENT.
NAT TURNERS STORY IS AN IMPORTANT ONE AND HIS COURAGE AND SACRIFICE
NEEDS TO BE SEEN, HEARD AND TOLD.
THIS FILM, WHICH IS VERY MUCH NEEDED NOW, WILL EDUCATE OUR PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE OF HIS CONTRIBUTION.
SO DESPITE THIS CONTROVERSY I WILL SPEND MY MONEY AND SUPPORT THE FILM.
"IM CHOSING A CONTINENT OVER AND ISLAND." THE TEACHINGS OF MARCUS GARVEY.
+vinessa wess he was found not guilty because there was no proof of rape. which means he's innocent of rape. smh what do you think not guilty means? for a unknown black man un tje 90's gets found not guilty he really is not guilty. because they will lock a nigga up cor something he didn't do let alone something he did.
It is insane to compare the Parker case with police shootings of black people. The circumstances of the cases are miles apart. Parkers' case is he said she said he says the sex was conseted to she said it was not. No cop or guy like Zimmerman saying a shooting did not happen they argued,the shooting was justified. Its apples to oranges. With that being said its clear that to some it is not important is guilty or not. Because he as accused people will hate him forever. Not fair at all
She didn't compare the two crimes, she used the story of police shootings as evidence that we cannot rely on the justice system to be accurate.
+osmith1999 she used it as an example of a flawed sytem but that example is a bad one.
She sounded rather stupid doing so. A racist criminal system means that the chances of a Black man getting away with rape of a white woman is close to zero. If he was acquitted, it simply means there was no evidence to convict him.
The vast majority of Blacks who have been lynched were lynched over BS allegations of raping white women. Emmet Till was murdered over whistling to a white woman. A person would have to be mentally impaired to see any sense in this argument.
This young man has made 10 movies before this....and not a peep about his past. Now since he's bringing up a black man that has been celebrated for taking up for our people. He was found innocent in a court of law.
Laughable that 17 years later this resurfaces during the time of this films release. I'm going to see it twice and pick up people to go with me.
Real Talk.
I don't see people this mad about the guy that makes the X-Men movies..
Brian Singer, oh yes he took a shitstorm and went underground for a while when they were promoting a x-man movie, he couldn't take part bc of the storm. I'm not a fan of singer. I belive the guys who accused him. I was not happy that he was going to direct the Queen movie. I was so glad when he was out of that picture! I love queen so I would probably have seen it anyway but It would've been difficult bc I dislike Bs.
Some black people will always fall for okie doke. Some of us have no code of conduct. We will don our cape trying to save the world but when we are facing our tribulations we are on our own.
Nate Parker shouldn't have to do a tour on rape.
Too much emotion and not enough logic being used.
Black women please choose your battle, do you know what the movie pertains. When a black man who has been in public eye for a long time and make movie about Nat Turner and all of a certain they bring up a 17 year old rape case he was found not guilty of to tone down the film
I am a black woman and i wish these two loud, overtalking, hens stfu... Nate Parker was found innocent by a jury of his peers... Which also means that this case was public information for everyone to know.. It only came out now because The Birth of A Nation will be such a pivotal movie for blacks and this country... So please stop putting these type of black women on tv and asking them logical civil questions, smh
You hit it on the head wassup with these chic's as if they hating on Nat Turner.
these women are too emotional and there is no logic in their argument
He was being blackmailed and his PR Team told him to attack it first. This entire thing is a mess.
The answer to that last question, I think Black America should seek the truth about Nat Turner and remember this is Hollywood and the film is backed by the White Fox. If the movie stick to the truth of Nat Turner, it well never win an academy award. But if it vilifies, demonize Black freedom fighters it might be nominated. My worry of the Hollywood version will be the gross inaccuracies of Nat and his cause, and this will be seen by many of our younger generations who rarely read a Black historical book. In the end, Nat Turner was captured, tortured and lynched, but after his death, they went and killed and raped a thousand more innocent Black men, women and children. So let's see how much of this they will depict on the big screen.
I agree. Let's see how they tell the story and hopefully be honest..
"remember this is Hollywood and the film is backed by the White Fox"
You are mistaken. The movie was completely financed independently. Fox bought the movie AFTER it was premiered at Sundance. Fox had nothing to do with the actual production of the movie.
And low and behold, the film was said to be fiction in large parts by African-American historians.
Regardless, black people pick up a book and read. Research your own history. The movie should inspire you to want to know more and to want to know the real truth, not the Hollywood version. We shouldn't be dependent on movies to educate us about our own history.
Then it's a worthless meaningless award .
I'm gonna support it wholeheartedly, the man was acquitted. I know that, given the circumstances, were he not found INNOCENT beyond a reasonable doubt, he would probably still be in jail.
Here's a bigger question! If nate parker was a black woman married to a WHITE MAN and she was involved in a sexual scandalous situation involving a white man student, but she accomplished what nate parker did and made and starred in a historical film about Harriet Turman and why would u feel about her? would you support her and her film like y'all are doing nate parker?
Not everybody supported the movie.
I can't stand how they are still doing this to this man 17 years after was proven innocent......NOT GUILTY. They want black men to suffer for forever
If Roland want to have a factual discussion then he should have insisted they read the court transcript before coming on the show. While I feel horrible about this young woman's death, it is not harassment for Nate to defend himself from a false allegation of rape. Especially after being found Not Quilty in a court of law. His female guest allowed their personal feeling and experiences to get in the way of making a logical argument. Moreover, her skin complexion has very little to do with this rape allegation over 100 years after the end of slavery.
I find it quite ironic that this rape allegation, that he was "acquitted" for over a decade ago, is now surfacing once it's closer release date of he Nat Turner film.
I will support this film. Like it or not, the justice system exonerated him.
Sad what happened to this woman taking her life, but no one, but the 3 of them was there. Tragic but life goes on.
This right here is demonstrative of how WE were concurred and continue to be dominated. Good job Boule Bird!
of course we will support. he was found not guilty.
agree
+Panini Chowder And the biggest child predators are?..Everytime you year of teachers sleeping with their students what group does that??..Beastality?
$17,000 is not a huge payout.
coptic777 If she was lying the school wouldn't have paid. This happened before Title IX.
+Panini Chowder R KELLY WAS A DIFFERENT STORY HE WAS ON TAPE WE SAW IT! we KNOW HE GUILTY LOOK AT HIS BEHAVIOR
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GROW UP AND TO TALK ABOUT THE SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF BLACK LEGACY?
Well, I'm seeing your question 5 years later. But, the answer is: When there's a snow ball in hell.
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Of course. My Nubian people need to see true history. Sabotage! Witness what they do when our people reveal harsh truths pertaining to their immoral antics. I highly respect this brother. We need to protect those who speak out.
Does anyone have proof that he did it?
What a mess. The incident. This discussion. Everything.
I agree. It is a shame.
The whole thing...a hot mess. NO ONE is listening, no one is being objective...you either are for feminism views or against them according to them...UGH!
+Shari Baltimore there is no such objectivity anymore.
we're always in our feelings!
We get convicted and there's no justice.we get acquitted and there's no justice
Wasn't acquitted, case was dismissed. And he admitted to gang grape in court transcripts.
Beware of the Boule. See how these Oreo's try to down the brother. Everyone who looks like us don't think like us.
I will be going to see Nate Parker's "Birth Of A Nation" with my entire family. and I will be seeing it within the 1st 5 days of when it comes out in theaters because that's where the numbers and dollars count...
Definitely supporting the movie and I'm not judging him on a case he was acquitted for. what's the purpose in him being found innocent if we still treat him like he's guilty?
She said ok finish, then interrupted him again
I felt like I was watching Fox News. Never been so hurt.
Some people are destructive to the collective and they must be left behind
These Black women in America talk too damn much!!!
+*kyla* strawberry source ?
they wanna be more important than they are..they dont care about anybody but themselves
*kyla* strawberry say it sister
Im sure I can't speak for my entire race I can say I & my family will be supporting this film. Has this questions about other celebs accused of something as horrible as rape. This film must be seen.
cocaine has lead to the mass incarceration and murder of millions of black men, yet Hollywood has pumped billions into the cocaine economy. Maybe we should boycott all of Hollywood by that logic.
Jessica Hello what the hell are you talking about? There is no victim to speak of because he was acquitted of rape. With that being said the accuse was white, like Emit Till's accuser not a black woman.
Last I didn't ask rape victims to do anything.
Jessica Hello Now see, there is the difference. George Zimmerman confessed to killing Trayvon. Nate was found not guilty.
I find your fake outrage laughable.
m young Keep in mind you will be supporting Fox films not Nate Parker. I'm not sure if the other actors and actresses in the film will be seeing a percentage of the box office profits but I'm sure FOX will see the biggest cut.
@triple double You can't say there was no victim because he was acquitted by the extremely flawed criminal justice system. By that logic Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, and Sandra Bland were not victims because their killers were all acquitted.
He was found innocent. How do we decide his guilt?
I've enjoyed his work since The Great Debaters so I'll continue to support him. I'd like to see Parker's version of Birth of a Nation. Regarding the alleged rape, Parker had his day in court and he was not convicted. So unless there's new evidence it's a moot issue.
I wish i could reach out to rappers and people of influence like Diddy..That movie is what we need.. In a time of such confusion and hurt.. we need it for strength and guidance
This comment section is disgusting. Calling these women names just because you don't agree with them, how immature and hateful.
Sonia Singh I'm a Black Woman btw so I have to fight racism and sexism/misogyny.
Sonia Singh Also what does any of that have to do with the people (mostly men) in the comments calling these women bitches etc?
+Imani Etay Is he a rapist or are y'all just being outraged just because white media told y'all to?Interesting no headlines when he did other movies in the past but now he does a Nat Turner movie he's a labeled a rapist even though he was acquitted.
Sonia Singh False equivalence is false. Also has nothing to do with my point but what am I supposed to be mad at Eminem for? I don't care for Nicki. What does that have to do with people calling these women names for having a different opinion? So because other people do bad things that makes it ok for you to do bad things? Stay topical and address why exactly it is justified for the people in the comments to use such vile, immature language or I will stop engaging in debate with you.
Patrick n What does this have to do with people calling these women bitches etc. in the comments?
I'm Excited to see Birth of a Nation! It's Unfortunate they would dig up this Negative information! This is going to be an Amazing Movie! This Definitely #Sabotage
It must be good because they are trying to side track it before it hits the screen..
Yup!! Thats why I'm supporting it.. There is Always an Agenda behind keeping our People Ignorant of the Truth.
I am amazed at how deep they'll go to de-humanize black men. He was acquitted and they still dug deep to find court documents and a phone conversation from the 90's just to tarn his imagine !!! Imagine how the positive effect on black peoples lives had these people put that kind of energy for helping blacks.
This panel was a waste of time. How do I respect the conversation when I can't understand it? Next time invite adults that were taught "one at a time." Complete waste.
i really hope fellas you are paying attention! WE ARE ON OUR OWN!!
I am paying attention i now realize black women hate us too
***** I AM A BLACK HEBREW MAN
First of all I was too excited when i first heard this was coming out...I think i jumped up and down.......So to me this movie means alot...Yes it's very tragic of what happened to the young lady, I was so sad to hear this....she must've had a really hard time. He denies any part of it and God knows if he really did or not and he will face him one day like us all.
However he was tried in a court of law and found not guilty with a jury and everything. So for people to go back on this crime from 1999 to now reminds me of OJ simpson. When he was found not guilty. Blacks in general were happy with the decision but whites weren't although he was found not guilty. However he was pretty much punished for his old trial that he was found not guilty in, which is why he received a harsher sentence this time around.
Also who are those two young ladies they seem so upset. Yes Rape is a issue that needs to be discussed. However you shouldnt try to ruin a mans career over his past that HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY OF.....I dont get this yes Rape is apart of the black community but how dare you call your own culture out. Rape happens all over the world in every culture. If you were tried for a crime and found not guilty then you shouldnt be punished.... although people still may have their thoughts that you were guilty, but YOU WERE FOUND NOT GUILTY PERIOD. People have accepted R. Kelly after what he was accused of and we saw the tapes....but i bet yall listen to his music. I dont even see why this is being talked about. I could see if he was found guilty but he wasnt. So what other reason would people not want this story told....The agenda is to stop the film from being seen because it depicts slaves rising up when for the most we part have only seen them laying down like in roots 1 ect. This is a powerful story to tell the black community....When I told my best friend that I couldnt wait to see this movie...she said who is Nat Turner?? How many others dont know.......So what is the agenda behind not telling this story. Are we going into every movie writers, actors, directors, camera man, or the whole film crews past and bringing out all their past crimes or mistakes. NO! this is not a good reason not to see this film. Nor to trash Nate Parker. To make him the poster boy for Rape when he was found not guilty is the wrong thing to do. If he was guilty and found not guilty then he will have a second judgement by God. Its not our place to try him again for a crime he was found not guilty of when he was young. After he has been a productive member of society hence forth.
whats up the comments updates on youtube they suck.
They were scared that if a lot of black people saw this movie that it might cause another uprising. That has always been the case with RACIST white people. Yep, the FEAR of an UPRISING. For example, look at how large the kkk grew when they saw the 1915 original movie of the Birth of a Nation.
Nat Turner is an important but underrated figure in American history. The movie should be judged on its own merits.
This story is tragic, but I do not think we should discuss sexual assault with The Birth of a Nation and Nate Turners legacy.
Where were the complainers when the Great Debaters ans Red tails?
Exactly!
Same thing they did to Dr. Dre when Straight out of Compton came out...
Nate Parker did not make this movie by himself so we can not boycott this as a means to affect him directly. What we actually do by boycotting this film is we stop the future making of films that focus on Black Americans. Support this movie unless you also Boycotted all of his other projects within the last 17 years; every movie, every tv episode that he appeared in, and every project that he produced.
+Justtwo he was found innocent jackass
+Justtwo a black man was found not guilty of raping a white female from an all white jury how much proof do you need moron
+Justtwo cognitive dissonance must be strong with you
Really!!! Just like Roland said a lot of us don't know the history of Nat Turner I would rather hear about my Black History more than hearing about something 17 years ago...Come on my I black people we have to do better. Stay on code...Why is this a topic anyway..
there are books and documentaries about Nat Turner, so why wait on this movie? what information does Nate have to make this movie that isn't available for others? stop with this.
Yes, absolutely support the film for all of the reasons cited by the panelists. And since the conversation regarding the sexual assault case will take place around the country in front of and behind closed doors anyway, I like the suggestion the sista on the far right put forth to have Nate reinvest a portion of his earnings back into the community to foster a much needed dialogue around sexual assault in our communities as a show of good faith, sincere empathy and to make his apology more complete.
I thought the girl that accused Nate Parker was white. These black women twisted this all around and started talking about black women.
As a Black woman it disturbs me that the conversation always revolve around "we need to teach our sons how to be responsible". YES. We most definitely do, HOWEVER we also need to teach our daughters responsibility as well! When I was in college, I can't tell you how many times I've gone to a house or dorm party and saw women completely act like straight up fools due to alcohol. The arguments & fights I've gotten into with female acquaintances or room mates because they want turn into super freak and get "filthy when that liquor get into em." Being put in situations over and over, making sure their drunk asses made it back to the dorm safely! And then them telling me the next day, they don't remember showing their ass, LITERALLY. And guess what? Most of these women were seemingly conscious! Able to vocalize to a man, who was also inebriated ,how good they are at giving head and other special gifts! So yes, teach our sons about being responsible and moral adults but this shouldn't be a one way conversation!
black men's obsession for white women is coming back to haunt them. i will not support nate parker or his movie. good for him
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+Tyson Williams Thanks bro for your intellect.... I bet a lot of people haven't thought of it in that context.... 💯💯👏👏✊✊👌👌
+Tyson Williams I wish more black people will think about the bigger picture like you describe.
You've got to think of the bigger picture. Hopefully they will tell the entire truth in the film, let's put aside the issues that are coming up.
Do I have my views on Nate? Heck yes, but I see the bigger picture. Like the person said below, support the message and support the artists that contributed to the project.
I hear you Nikki but I still need to know about Nat Turner.😕
The irony of these women trying to get a falsely accused victim of a rape allegation to be an advocate on the integrity of women's claims of rape. While at the same time using the pressure of public opinion to force him to do something he has chose not to do willingly.
I'am going to see this filmmaker's movie for sure.
I will still go see this movie. I am happy that Nat Turner is finally getting his story told.
Nate was acquitted though, so....
This film and the issue of "rape culture" don't have any business being discussed together. We are saying the system doesn't work at all by connecting this to this film. We were not there, and we don't know if this was just a sexual encounter or not. If declared not guilty, we should respect that. Period. The two should be separate. This film is definitely one that should create discussion.
YES ,SUPPORT NATE TURNER
Roland, The women on your panel did themselves a huge injustice due to the fact that they did not allow anyone a chance to speak. It is was very hard to watch them constantly interrupt everytime anyone spoke. Complete failure.
She was devastated by the lie she told, period
Talking black sleeping white.
As someone who has been a victim of sexual assault in my youth, I am sympathetic to anyone who has actually gone through such a difficult occurrence.....BUT, with that being said this is a ploy to stop a major historic event in Black history from being told. He was proven not guilty by a jury. How often does a jury let a Black man off scott free? He must've really had nothing incriminating that could have lead to any sort of guilty conviction. To my Black female feminists--stop falling for this trick! So many white male celebs have been found guilty of the same same things as Mr. Parker has been accused of and they aren't blackballed/blacklisted or attacked like Nate has been. Think about Charlie Sheen, Roman Polanski, and others--Mr. Polanski is was accused of sexually assaulting a little girl and had a warrant out for his arrest. Upon realizing this, he fled the U.S. for France and hasn't looked back since (also b/c France won't extradite him back to the U.S.). His work is still celebrated in Hollywood to this day and that happened in 1977. So to answer the original question, yes, my family and I will be supporting his film!
Roland I like and love you; so I say this in love..I think you are on point with many issues we face in our community, no doubt you are prepared with your facts; however when I look at you on your show, it would be nice to let people finish their thought patterns and sentences when THEY HAVE THE FLOOR, please stop cutting them off, its rude, disrespectful and truly annoying...
Minority communities prioritize red herrings.... An acquitted man is being the determination of whether we watch a movie or not... Priceless...
"Support"The Birth of a Black Nation!!! Yes, Yes, and H-ll yeah!!!!!
"Two of the most powerful scenes in the movies deal with rape." Such irony. A film with a fictionalized interracial rape (Nat Turner never had a wife who was raped) while the movie star was accused of an interracial rape and his roommate convicted before having his conviction reversed with the DA electing not retry it when necessary witnesses could not be located. Then the movie omits the fact that Nat Turner and his men murdered 35 or more defenseless children, infants, and women--more than the white men they murdered. Why were the facts of his rebellion whitewashed?
YES! SUPPORT HIM..................
Please stop this Black people! Nate Parker has been a fairly accomplished actor for some time now, but his 20 year old ACQUITTED case magically comes up when he gets major backing to release a film about Nat Turner's Revolt and he's getting Oscar buzz for this film! 20 year old acquittal!...20 year old acquittal! All there needs to be for guilt in the public's eye is for there to be an accusation! What happens in court DOESN'T...EVEN...MATTER! If you're in court for it, you're guilty!
There should have been a woman on here who has personal history and can separate her personal trauma from facts and emotions. These women are not able to separate emotion and intelligence.
All these people flapping they gums over unrelated issues concerning this film and playing right into the hands of those who want to see this film buried. GO SEE THE DAMN MOVIE. Stop this foolishness.Talk about a false flag. This incident happened 17 years ago! Even if he was found guilty, he'd have already served his time and been done with the whole matter. This is like double jeopardy, trying a man all over again for something he was acquitted over. Stop. This is a dumb argument to take attention away from the film, don't y'all see how this game is played?
izathaqi7 so many Black folks falling for the okey - doke on this. Just amazed how it's dragging so many into a discussion on what should be a non issue.
i love watching this show everyday but the arguing and not letting people be heard is aggravating. NOTHING will stop me from seeing this movie nate already got paid and im not going to judge a man for his lil boy mistake i feel it was very wrong though and r.i.p to the victim
Yes, Everyone should support this movie!
I've no problems with calling the judicial system corrupt and racist. It is. and while it's not impossible for Blacks to get a just decision, it is still quite RARE. If Nate was charged with rape and found not guilty, I would like to know on what grounds people either agree or disagree with the verdict.
my personal mission is to get my whole family to go see this movie .
I'm very thankful to you for making this true masterpiece ... unbelievably breathtaking movie my now all-time favorite!!!
god bless you brother...
bless you
I could have watched them talk about this for a whole hour so everyone could say what they needed to say and have a good debate.
The fact of the matter with Birth of a Nation is that Nate Parker has already been paid and the only people who will hurt from lack of support is Fox Searchlight who only wanted to release a great film that would showcase a part of Black American History that isn't widely known. There are many other people that worked on this film who will be effected by a lack of support and as a result less Black films will be brought to us on a big stage like this film.
There is nothing we can do to change the verdict of this case. Nate Parker can become an advocate for rape and consent if he chooses to but does not need to be required to. We can speculate and debate until the cows come home, but I don't think Nate Parker is the same man he was 17 years ago. I am going to see Birth of a Nation because I want to watch the story of Nat Turner brought to live and support a film with a large Black cast in hopes that more will continue to get made.
By the way, I WILL see this movie if GOD so Wills!!! IT"S ABOUT D**N
TIME THAT WE SHOWED A FIGHTER!! Too many people think that we came here
voluntarily and were happy about the way the European Collective treated
us and did NOTHING about it. I know it will be difficult for me to
watch, ONLY because of the Genetic Trauma involved, but I intend to suffer through it.
Could this film have been acquired for the express purpose to kill it? Controlled Opposition.
y'all gonna have to hold this L
Some people just fall in the trap..this is so ridiculous, for this old issue to come up 17 years later after is movie is so successful! Black people do better!
hell yes I'll support his movie!!!!!
an accusation of rape
or witnessing someone being murdered is not the same thing
The thing that bothers me is this happened almost 20 years ago. I find it ironic that this case that he was acquitted on 17 years ago has surfaced as this film could be up for several major awards including the OSCARS. I don't know why people feel like this man who has kids a wife should relive a situation that has came with a verdict. It's not about Nate Parker it's about Nat Turner. It's not a person in this world that does not have a history behind them. I would not expect Nate Parker to beat himself up over this because when you do that people then believe that you're admitting your guilty. Rape is a serious offense as I have daughters of my own BUT to say I'm not going to support Nate Parker because of a trial 17 years ago that he was acquitted on is BS. I believe we find every reason not to suooort each other in the black community and this is proving it. One thing I will say is NATE PARKER you NEVER TURN DOWN OPRAH WINFREY'S advice. Like you said on the breakfast club you're a thousandaire she's a billionaire. Learn something from someone who has been in several history black movies, someone is established in the film and TV industry. I believe once black people realize everybody is not out to get you INCLUDING your own we will ok. To those 2 black women that were on the panel it was more about something they've been through and can't get over. The whole panel was not allowing anyone to talk and it's sad because important things could have been said. I will support the film because I'm from Norfolk VA raised in Suffolk and would like to know more about my history but I will also read any book that may speak on Nat Turner because just cause it says "based on a true story" does not make it all true.
I support Nate Parker and every other black person in this nation should support him too because this movie is well overdue and I'm so proud that he made this movie
Yes, I will support the film. He was tried and found not guilty. It's sad the young lady committed suicide,yet, we do not know the entire story of this young lady's life. They are trying to take away from this powerful movie. He has been in several movies before, WHY NOW?
That woman was NOT raped. She was partly drunk and gave it up. Wild night and she thoroughly enjoyed. She's ashamed she got caught and laughed at. Go Nate, I love you and I will be supporting your film.
Black people are sometimes our own worst enemy... This man has did several films, and we magically need to bring his past up on this great film.
I swear you cannot have a conversation with black women in the room yelling and talking over you
Super T periodt and NO black man has a chance against a White woman’s word. Wether she yells or screams, periodt,
All these hoteps in the comments sounding eerily to the 'all lives matter' people.
He's was found not guilty by the court so It doesn't matter what you feminist say.
If the court of law is infallible then sure it wouldn't matter but it's not so it does.
Manopoly12 If the court of law is infallible then sure it wouldn't matter but it's not so it does.
I'm wondering between now and 17 years ago everyone decided to talk about this during the release of this film. I'm thinking it's done to take away attention from Nat Turner and y'all are falling for it
yep ,mainly black women
As a black woman and victim of sexual assault, I disagree with these women. they made a lot of valid points regarding race and the criminal justice system and black women being thrown to the bottom of the bucket of consideration but I disagree with their stance.
1) just wanna point out that numerous white directors and actors are accused of rape all the time but there's never a question of whether the film should be boycott or not. This isn't to say that's right but it's food for thought.
2) Most ppl support problematic ppl all the time. there isn't a person alive without flaws. I find it interesting we pick and choose who to criticize. most folks still listen to Michael Jackson,who was accused of multiple accounts of child molestation. Personally, I believe in the separation of art and the individual. just be cause you happen to enjoy someone's work doesn't have to mean you support the artists actions.
3)Lastly comparing police brutality to this is slightly flawed because in those cases, there was a video to dispute. In this case, we weren't spectators . so the presumption from the women seems to be that he's guilty, but why exactly?
I sympathize with the victim but I'm not sure what she has to do with the film. if you're that outraged, demand justice. I'm not sure not buying a ticket to his film justifies that. And I'm not excusing him for the film. I'm just saying, wrongfully accusing a man of rape (if indeed wrongfully ) can be pretty damaging. almost as much as being raped if he's convicted.
This historical account has nothing to do with the accusation of rape against the director and lead actor Nate Parker. There should be no reason that this great depiction be minimized due to women feeling "revictimized" and slighted because of their own insecurities. Men get raped as well but I do not see anyone attaching that to this feminist "movement" to villainize and subsequently victimize Nate. We, as a people, need to be able to focus on and be aware of what is and is not going on and being said. This issue being a determining factor in supporting this work or not is disgusting. He was found NOT GUILTY. END OF DISCUSSION. This is about Nat Turner and understanding what HE went through, did and paved the way FOR US in. Support this work, not the ill-placed attached accusation of rape. If you want to be MAD about "rape culture" be MAD that all these slaves in HISTORY never got justice. Fight about THAT. Get MAD about THAT. Do something about THAT. Support this work. Support Nat Turner. SUPPORT TRUTH. MUAH!!!
I saw this movie and i took my son. We enjoyed it ! This case is so old and he was aqquitted, ppl need to stop and get a life! You cant stop what God has for this man.
This man have been in several movies, why now, I know why because the message is powerful and theirs no white savior in the movie
Its ridiculous for people to be upset about Parker's wife having a white skin tone. What constitutes us being black and what constitutes us being white.....we are all human. His wife's skin color has nothing to do with his feelings as a black man. There should be no issue. To me, people having issue with her being "white" indicates that they are racist. With all the racism we deal with already as black folk, we need to caution ourselves against being racist too.
Whatever the actor did in his personal life does not change the fact that nat turners story and message should live on there's something to be learned from this story for everyone. Dont let the media take you away from the larger picture.
iam going to support that movie period! !
FOUND NOT GUILTY WHY IS THIS EVEN A DISCUSSION?
OJ WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY TOO.
he was found not guilty. they had a prior relationship. the other student was convicted because they didnt have a prior relationship. sounds to me like a 3sum gone wrong. dont let the devil tell u that now all of a sudden the MESSAGE of this film is somehow tainted and should not be heard and taught to our children just as ROOTS was a eye opener for us that was born in the 60's. my opinion.
I think EVERYBODY who is a BLACK person in the world, ANYWHERE owes it to themselves to go see this movie! Nat Turner was one of the first African slaves brought over to America to spend the rest of his life under slavery and oppression, until he decided to put his foot down, albeit, violently! He was hanged and had his skin removed like a cow after being brought to justice! It is an absolute miracle we as people, BLACK or any other color are even aware of this man today! Because, stories like his, one could easily find encouraging, even during the time of slavery back then! Plus, American history and education has the tendency to sweep stories like his under the rug or bury it deeply under ground! "I" personally believe the ONLY reason we are aware of his story, even to this day, is because for the longest period of time AMERICAN RACIST AND OPPRESSORS throughout time wanted to use him as a example of what happens when you decide to stand up and fight your right in justice and equality, even though you may have been treated like a DOG, bonded into slavery back then, I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT and will continue to believe so, until I'm convinced otherwise! NOW, with this movie all of that backfires, it's a boomerang! NAT TURNER'S STORY SHOULD BE TOLD BEFORE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, MALCOLM X AND THE BLACK PANTHERS!!! BUT, NO BLACK, WHITE, SPANISH, ASIAN OR INDIAN person, director, actor or actress had the COURAGE to depict this man's story on film and bring it to the big screen until now and I think they ONLY reason they allowed it to make it this far is because they know BLACK PEOPLE, MOST, IF NOT ALL ARE ALL GOING TO RUSH OUT TO SEE THIS MOVIE AND THAT MEANS MONEY $$$$$!!! This should be a block buster just off the power of BLACK AMERICA'S dollars alone, anything after that is a plus! But, let's see if it wins a Oscar, I DON'T THINK HOLLYWOOD IS GOING TO ALLOW THAT AND MARK MY WORDS, THEY WON'T!!! Remember that and that will be this case even if no other great movies come out after this movie is released next month! It's just unfortunate that a guy who has a RAPE case in the past had the balls to go ahead and produce this movie, I thought SPIKE LEE OR EVEN I would at some point; quite frankly! I don't know if that was calculated or not, though! But, more and more as I think about it and how he decided to named the movie after a KU KLUX KLAN book or document which had the same name of this movie first; in addition to, knowing NAT TURNER was one of the most COURAGEOUS AND PERHAPS HEROIC AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THE HISTORY OF SLAVERY AND AMERICA, I THINK IT WAS!!! The controversy is NOT all VICTIM OR MEDIA driven, I think the director has a chip on his shoulder and somewhat expected some of this, to an extent! ANY CONTROVERSY IS GOOD CONTROVERSY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE A BUZZ IN ENTERTAINMENT, ANY ASPECT; MUSIC, FILM, SOCIAL MEDIA, ETC!!!