CANON RF 70-200 f4 REVIEW vs CANON RF 70-200 f2.8

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    This is a Lens REVIEW of the Canon RF 70-200 f4 IS, against Canon's RF 70-200 f2.8. I took both of these out to photograph Ice Hockey which is one of the hardest things in my opinion to shoot. If a lens can handle ice hockey, it can handle anything. The question is, should you go with the f4 or the 2.8?
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  • @zechariahgaskins1386
    @zechariahgaskins1386 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love it how Jared says things that so many people are afraid to say- noise and grain is part of the game! People need to stop thinking photos are ruined because there's noise and grain!

  • @edspencer8113
    @edspencer8113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This could not have been more timely; I searched for this comparison last Sunday but got distracted and then it pops up this week. Perfect!

    • @virenp1983
      @virenp1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gordon Laing has a pretty DARN GOOD comparison covering possibly ticking more boxes than Jared's review but you're right. If you have any camera related queries you search on yt for Jared's vid he's got a reputation for that over a decade!

    • @TheArtofKAS
      @TheArtofKAS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👀 Right right right right

    • @counterfit5
      @counterfit5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn’t even know the f4 version existed until last week

  • @MrHotdogso7
    @MrHotdogso7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I actually got the f4 here JUST for the size. It’s just so small and great for adventure photography.

  • @KevGoesRiding
    @KevGoesRiding 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I have the rf 70-200 f4, I love how damn small and light it is and the quality is awesome!

    • @lnz971
      @lnz971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i prefer the 2.8

    • @hungrydavo
      @hungrydavo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@lnz971 I prefer KFC

    • @MiKeTuScAnI
      @MiKeTuScAnI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With what R are you using it?? I thinking on getting the F4 to set it up with a R6

    • @SJoZig
      @SJoZig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have the EF f2.8 and I love it but I just bought the RF f4 and I’m not disappointed it is awesome small light and cheaper and the results are fantastic!

    • @magiccarpetrider4594
      @magiccarpetrider4594 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lnz971 of course, and I have one, but for street, it’s like a battle axe in my bag.

  • @kiliandietrich8526
    @kiliandietrich8526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I was waiting for this comparison. Too bad there were no direct bokeh comparisons and I had also hoped for more diverse sceneries... because I personally think that you can get stunning results with the F4! With the new sensors and the new lenses I think F4 is the new F2.8 tbh. You can pretty much do everything with it, even to the degree that you make your money with photos off the F4 lens lineup, they're simply that good.

    • @VolleyballLyfe
      @VolleyballLyfe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But is the F4 as good for indoor sports as the 2.8?

  • @uvp5000
    @uvp5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for posting this comparison. The images captured demonstrate how well the f4 and the f2.8 handle demanding situations with the R5. Very informative.

  • @obsidian00
    @obsidian00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Canon has simply KILLED IT with their RF glass lineup…very nice!

    • @TMTM_81
      @TMTM_81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Yes, they killed my wallet

    • @obsidian00
      @obsidian00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TMTM_81 HA! I haven’t made the jump to the RF system as of yet (my 1DX3 is oh so freaking yummy!) but IF I do…it would take something like the R1 (Hopefully) to ditch the EF line!

    • @Davitor1
      @Davitor1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I traded all my EF glass which was painful specially when you realize you only get half the original cost, but eventually I believe DSLR will be discontinued, then you won’t get diddly for trade ins.

    • @obsidian00
      @obsidian00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Davitor1 I know the pain of getting SHAFTED whenever you trade in glass, that’s why when I DO switch up to the RF system, I’ll just use the adapter…the only EF lens that I WILL buy is the 28-70MM F/2!!! I ache for that lens! 😩

    • @Davitor1
      @Davitor1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@obsidian00 I rather go for the RF100-500. It’s $300 less. I own the R5 with the holy trinity and the cheap rf35mm

  • @adjake1
    @adjake1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just bought the f4 2 weeks ago to replace my sigma 2.8 sports. This is my first L glass and my first rf lens. The size and weight and image quality are amazing. Even more amazing is the stabilization. I was able to get a 1.5 second exposure completely in focus. This is huge because i shoot a lot of waterfalls and this means i could actually hike without a tripod if i really wanted to (probably won’t but just saying)
    While i loved the image quality of the sigma, the heft of that lens did it in. I do a lot of hiking with my gear and i found myself often not even bringing that lens with me. I can hold that all day long and shoot but I definitely get a bit more shakey with it.
    Like you said this is a fantastic lens for the amateur. If i was a pro getting paid I would most definitely go for the 2.8 just for the flexibility.

    • @counterfit5
      @counterfit5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, you beat my longest handheld exposure time by 50%

    • @andredo4880
      @andredo4880 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you compare autofocus in sigma vs canon? I want to buy 70-200 for landscape photography but also for sport photos. In my country the price od both are the same, but i know Sigma weights 3 times more than canon

    • @MatthiasAI
      @MatthiasAI 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      have u ever tried a monopod? Especially if you are primarily hiking there are monopods with detachable tops that can double as a hiking stick/pole. I never thought of this until my friend introduced me to it, now whenever i think Im hiking and want to take some gear ill take my monopod and detach the head and foot. Also great for making noise hitting stuff while your walking incase u need to keep forest animals away or aware that your in the area.

  • @tommccarey6297
    @tommccarey6297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great review. It confirmed my belief the f/4 is the way to go, especially for landscape photography.

  • @johnadams3038
    @johnadams3038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    Every lens manufacturer has a special bacterial and bio-hazardous cleaning facilities for cleaning lenses after they receive back units from Jared reviews.

    • @mjztx
      @mjztx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha :)

    • @rebootnut
      @rebootnut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’d imagine they could resell it “as is”. It would be like getting Leonard Nimoy’s used napkin.

    • @IanJames56
      @IanJames56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @Aneliuse
      @Aneliuse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rebootnutwho?

    • @kingdreyer3033
      @kingdreyer3033 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Aneliuseit’s from big bang theory

  • @pericardiocentecis
    @pericardiocentecis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For the size and the weight, I'd get the f4 as I'd be more likely to take it for landscape hikes and the like. Have an EF 2.8 which is gorgeous but sits at home mostly.

  • @rlfisher
    @rlfisher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I couldn't be happier with the RF 70-200mm f/4. It has the beautiful RF glass and is crazy small and light to tote around for landscape photography.

    • @sarahkeller6403
      @sarahkeller6403 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your main camera you are using the f/4 with? Jumping back and forward if I should get the f/2.8 or f/4.

    • @rlfisher
      @rlfisher ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sarahkeller6403 canon RP. Not a bad little camera

    • @sarahkeller6403
      @sarahkeller6403 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rlfisher Got the same one, love the RP! You can recommend taking the f/4 for the RP?

    • @rlfisher
      @rlfisher ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sarahkeller6403 Yes all of my lenses are f/4 for landscape photography. If you shoot a lot of sports, stars, etc then you might want the faster ones. I rent them occasionally.

    • @sarahkeller6403
      @sarahkeller6403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rlfisher Sounds great! That's why I'm also thinking about the f/2.8 because I also shoot some sports events. Thanks for your advice! :)

  • @icogicog8287
    @icogicog8287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice. Thanks. Landscape travel F4 for sure lighter, optically excellent and more compact. Ideal when you’re shlepping your equipment around!

  • @mariocristobalcolladoavile448
    @mariocristobalcolladoavile448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They look great, the only thing I don't like about them is the fact they extend and dust can get into it, unlike the versions for the mirror ones

  • @janamerten6592
    @janamerten6592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've got an R5 & 2.8 in my cart right now. You just convinced me to officially pull the trigger and finalize checkout. Thanks Fro!! 🤗💓

    • @nathan-serny
      @nathan-serny 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do you still have r5 and 2.8 ? Is it good ?

  • @AS-oz6ep
    @AS-oz6ep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Personally I went with the 100-500 for more reach. You are giving up a bit of light (f/5 at 200mm) and it’s more expensive than the f/4, and it’s more hefty but I find for what I’m shooting, 200mm just isn’t enough reach to fill the frame and I’m always wanting more.

    • @MatthiasAI
      @MatthiasAI 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still rock my EF 70-200 but im finally moving over to the RF system and the first lens i was thinking of grabbing is the RF100-500. Iv always wanted to get the sigma 150-600 or canon EF 100-400 but could never justify it. Now that i havent spent money on camera gear in a few years i dont mind splurging and the rf100-500 seems like itll get me there better then the Sigma which is old glass at this point will. Also the benefit of it all running natively and being lighter is a bonus. Cant wait to join the 100-500 club! Altho ill probably buy a RF70-200 f4 eventually.

  • @35259edgarboudaher
    @35259edgarboudaher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The difference in noise would be pretty much matched if you have the R6. The rf 24-105mm is my run and gun workhorse.

  • @kenjanson3428
    @kenjanson3428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm that amateur photographer that Jared talked about. I shoot Landscapes and travel and most of my work is on a tripod so f4 is fine for me. I now have the f4 holy trilogy 14-35mm, 24-105mm and this the 70-200mm. Great lenses and fantastic value for a part timer.

    • @pauledwards5607
      @pauledwards5607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking of getting that exact same trilogy...but let me ask you one question...if you WERE going to have f 2.8 in ONE lens ONLY...which one would it be?

    • @slampest
      @slampest ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pauledwards5607 wide angle for me.
      Problem is, i also intend to do some astrophotography.
      For wide angle, i can get great pictures of milky way, dim lit landscapes and mountains.
      RF telephoto lenses are barely out, but with high aperture you can get amazing photos of things like the andromeda galaxy, sports, and dimlit places for animals.
      Its tough. Less zoom, more aperture or more aperture and less zoom. Getting both is more expensive.
      Im thinking of the rf 100-400, or this rf 70-200 for telephoto.
      For wide angle, its currently either sigma 14-24 f/2.8, rf 15-35 f/42.8 or the cheaper 14-35 f/4

  • @ivanvelazquez3549
    @ivanvelazquez3549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video was actually really helpful. I'm a cinematographer and for that I use my Canon C70 which I converted to PL Mount for Cine Lenses, but I also own an R6 as kind of my own personal photography and travel camera... and was pondering about the f/4 vs the f/2.8 and now that I've seen this video... I think I'm sold on the f/4 because of it's compact size. We don't have proper camera stores in Puerto Rico so these lenses are impossible to see/test before hand. (We have Best Buys but their inventory is pretty much non-existent). Thanks anyway.

  • @timdaugherty7612
    @timdaugherty7612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I would love one of these on the RF 15-35 f2.8 vs the RF 14-35 f4 as I've been debating this all summer.

    • @mitchell2719
      @mitchell2719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He posted on Instagram that he's got one, wouldn't be surprised to see a shootout coming soon

    • @35259edgarboudaher
      @35259edgarboudaher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think you'd see even less of a difference in wide angles from f 4 to f 2.8.

    • @nikhils4785
      @nikhils4785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I own the 15-35 2.8 and i love that lens to death, however i will say i havent found much use of the 2.8 aperture range unless j was taking portraits, or hyper focusing on some object in my composition. If you’re doing strictly landscapes the f4 should be fine since in landscapes you do tend to use apertures in the f11-f16 range. By no means am i an expert and this is only my personal take but i thought id be able to add some info to your comment, hope this helps :)

    • @timdaugherty7612
      @timdaugherty7612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nikhils4785 Yes, this helps and is sort of how I'm leaning. Right now I'm probably going to get the f4 unless there is a compelling reason to go for the 2.8. And for me I don't think there is. Thanks!

    • @EuropaChronicles
      @EuropaChronicles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It all depends on your intended use for the lens. If you’re shooting people in dark-ish settings, such as wedding receptions or cooking s’mores by a campfire, or enjoy shooting with a shallow depth of field, then the 2.8 is your jam.
      If the vast majority of the time you’ll be using it in good lighting situations, or with a tripod, and/or mostly shoot with smaller apertures, then the f/4 will work just fine. If it’s rare for you to shoot in poor/low light, then you can crank up the ISO by one stop…the R5 and R6 are so good at moderate ISOs that you’ll be very happy with the results.

  • @gregorynp
    @gregorynp 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice review Jared. Keep up the good work. I bought the 4

  • @protow5178
    @protow5178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Easy choice, F4. Use it, indoors outdoors what ever (I have an R5...). If business picks up, sell it for ohhh $1,300 and put that on the F2.8. Downside is I do like the placement of the zoom ring on the F4 version vs The F2.8 and will have to unlearn that when the time comes.

  • @MarkPMus
    @MarkPMus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d save even more money and adapt a Sigma or Tamron 70-200 f2.8 EF fit onto a Canon mirrorless. I’m so glad for that EF-RF adapter, because I’ve saved all my old lenses and they work flawlessly with my EOS-R. The RF glass may be good but it’s useless if most of us can’t afford to buy it. $1500 is an insane amount of money to spend, especially when you can get better glass on an older system more cheaply.

  • @colinstock325
    @colinstock325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m primarily an amateur landscape photographer with a Canon 5Div. I opted for the EF 70-200 f/4.

    • @badboyvr4
      @badboyvr4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Since your shoot with a DSLR, you didn't have much choice but to buy an EF lens. This video is about the RF lenses, not sure what point you're trying to make.

  • @yveslubanda6698
    @yveslubanda6698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic review as always! Nice one Fro! 👏

  • @stephennowlan2637
    @stephennowlan2637 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought the 2.8 for my daughters last two years of volleyball in high school gyms and have travelled with it. It’s a big commitment in your bag when you’re trying to fly light. I’m now watching for a good used f4 in my region and down sizing since I’m no longer in the dark gyms. I almost second guessed myself due to some great shots of SailGP I got in Halifax, but looking at it I realized I had plenty of shutter speed at 200 ISO, even in the rain. So the f4 would have been just as good.

  • @andrewhulette2436
    @andrewhulette2436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been back and forth with which one to buy for weeks, thank you for this video!!

  • @ThreeCeeProductions
    @ThreeCeeProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am not a fan of the external zoom lenses. I own 3 of the new canon RFs and I am concerned they will pull dust into the lenses. Time will tell. The image quality has been superb and for now I am a fan of the results.

  • @dhiltonp
    @dhiltonp ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was surprised by your shots at 5:40 and 6:05. The f2.8 seems like it would gather less light than the f4 at the same aperture. 1/1000s, f4 vs f2.8. That's 1 stop difference, so I would expect the ISO to be double. But with the f2.8 you were at 4000 ISO, with the f4, 5000. You later had some f4 shots at 6400. Basically, there is a 1 stop difference in aperture/DoF, but there appears to be a 1/3 or 2/3 stop difference in light transmission. This means the f4 lens is a better fit for freezing action relative to the f2.8 than it appears on paper. I guess this may be due to vignetting on the f2.8, too.
    Edit: I saw another video where these two lenses were at the same aperture (f4), but the f2.8 lens was 2/3rds of a stop faster. This is confusing. It almost seems like the f2.8's light transmission doesn't change between f2.8 and f4. I'm sure that this isn't whats reported on the camera :/

  • @mrbob581
    @mrbob581 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks 😊
    Good review, but the few photos of the 2.8 sold me…

  • @jeraldking2903
    @jeraldking2903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jared, if you had to choose between RF 70-200 f4 to the EF 70-200 f2.8 which would you choose? Cost is a lot closer compared to RF 70-200 f2.8. Shooting on R6.

  • @infinity-8-66
    @infinity-8-66 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Impressed. Very logically summed up and unbiased. Fan 👍

  • @donbethel7675
    @donbethel7675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video. I think a comparison of the RF 15-35 f2.8 vs the RF 14-35 f4 would complete my training as young JAREDI. As I'm a recent owner of a EOS R with the RF 24-105 f4 usm, Im looking at the options of the F4 trinity. Any info on the subjects is helpful, Mahalo from Maui

  • @RomelosLife
    @RomelosLife 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the two lens examples delivered and smashed it defo think the F4 is the one for me over the F2.8

  • @mikek7815
    @mikek7815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I shoot a lot of youth hockey. I used R6. Im always at iso5000. Most rink lights blow. The eye tracking is on point. I always get beautiful shots. I shoot with sigma 120-300 2.8

  • @Axonteer
    @Axonteer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Jared!
    I own that exact EF version (bought it used). The Adapter doesnt make a huge difference on my R6 as its already a long lense but the weigt difference....
    Im just a hobbyist (enthusiastic tho) and you gave me some interesting insight into the thought process about getting an F4 or F2.8 .

    • @mcmc-o9w
      @mcmc-o9w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What did you ended up getting? Im worried about the f4 in Low light but idk weight does matter since my 50mm 1.2 is heavy

  • @_JasonV
    @_JasonV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jared, Been waiting for this!

  • @mjpt57
    @mjpt57 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought the 70-200 f4. Amazing lens. Currently in the US on holiday. Saw it in a local camera shop. Saved about $300 AUD on it. Am looking forward to shooting around the Long Island, NY area with it.

  • @LuigiVN
    @LuigiVN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Manual focus is great for food and macro photography where you most likely want the focus plane and DoF in a specific part. Sometimes the camera does a very good job at those applications with AF but with manual (and the DoF highlight funcion of the R, RP, R5 and R6) you can get your DOF just like you want it super easily and satisfactory using manual AF. It has NEVER been better to use manual AF with the MF assist modes of modern cameras ❤️

  • @darkerarts
    @darkerarts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a 70-200 IS f/2.8 mkiii recently of someone who was buying the RF F4 version. His reason was, he is into hiking and wanted the lightest lens possible and with the iso abilities of the R range, there is no need for the 2.8. Me personally, I shoot events and concerts, f2.8 isn't essential, but it earns you money.

  • @unclebuck5957
    @unclebuck5957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love to have the 2.8 can't afford been saving a year and waited for the f4 love it so light and compact

  • @NOOBIFIER1337
    @NOOBIFIER1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spent the weekend shooting the f4 this weekend. Outside and in the wilderness. Fantastic and so light. Perfect for mounted to a Ronin

  • @howdidthisgethere119
    @howdidthisgethere119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review. Thanks.
    I'm sticking with the EF 70-200 2.8 II for my RP with the conversion ring for a while. The RF glass is beautiful, but too rich for my blood at the moment. the compact size is tempting though for someone who has to fit a lot of gear together for travel.

  • @RealRaynedance
    @RealRaynedance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Considering the whole price thing, can you imagine what would happen if Tamron managed to get their 70-180 onto the RF mount?

    • @AmaxterPlays
      @AmaxterPlays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sony’s lead with E mount and embrace of third parties is a major advantage and reason I went for an Alpha instead of the fantastic R6. RF is great and Canon makes great lenses but they need more affordable glass from Sigma and Tamron!

    • @RealRaynedance
      @RealRaynedance 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AmaxterPlays And that's what's made me stick with Sony so far, too.

    • @PersonaN007Grata
      @PersonaN007Grata 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bought a Tamron SP 35 1.4 for $700 and it’s on par with the $1800 Canon. If Tamron makes an RF 70-200 I’ll be super interested.

  • @reginaldoppenheimer334
    @reginaldoppenheimer334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison mang. Love your videos and content !

  • @justallmedia
    @justallmedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just ordered the RF f2.8 and the fact you did this review with hockey has made me more excited for it to come in! Im a goalie playing in rec league and i just love shooting hockey photos.

  • @chrisjanuarywilliamson2010
    @chrisjanuarywilliamson2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not gonna lie... The EF to RF converter ring is amazing... I doubt I'll be buying repeat glass in RF anytime in the near future.

    • @PetkoDanov1
      @PetkoDanov1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have u tried RF glass? Those are not redesigns of EF lenses. RF glass is super sharp and crisp and have better contrast and flare resistance. Yeah, the converter is awesome, but even EF 135/2 is somewhat soft and "muddy" compared to cheapest RF glass.

  • @DSwizzy
    @DSwizzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos man!
    Keep up the great work brother.

  • @andyv6127
    @andyv6127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    F4 for me. Bought the 85 F2 macro as well with change. Now waiting for 14-35 F4

  • @francistheriault5622
    @francistheriault5622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just tried the new RF 70-200mm for ice hockey and ringette. Incredible even at low light... Better than my EF 70-200mm I IS for sure. And very light... Wasn't sure about interior ice hockey arena but it's great. I am sure the 2.8 is better but honestly the F4 is perfect for what I do...

  • @almath2115
    @almath2115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Jared, as usual thanks for this comparison. Can't wait to see your review on the upcoming Rf 14-35 f4. Also have you heard anything updates on Sigma or Tamron with their Rf mount releases(?). Thanks Fro.

  • @garyhook6583
    @garyhook6583 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great discussion Jared. I both loved the breakdown, and given that I spend way too much time in hockey rinks taking action shots with my 5D Mkiv, the examples struck a chord. Still waffling on whether to jump over to mirrorless. Avid enthusiast with a second mortgage tied up in all my glass :-), so will I get that much out of the new technology? Aargh. I love the idea of the weight savings with the F4 to say nothing about the price point difference, but being able to isolate a goalie or a player with the reduced depth of field with the 2.8, to me is the deciding factor. So that combined with the 'blow test' makes the F2.8 one, price be damned :-) Thanks again

  • @msa4548
    @msa4548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $2700 for the 2.8 70-200 and $2800 for the 100-500. Would it be better to get the 2.8 and use a teleconverter to take it to 400 versus the f5+ 100-500?

  • @rdm5546
    @rdm5546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the RF f2.8 trinity and can attest that it only hurts once when you buy them. Then there are many year of solid performance including awesome bokeh and good coverage in all sorts of lighting.

    • @eamonkelly3256
      @eamonkelly3256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely agree. I cant see myself ever replacing them or outgrowing .

    • @rdm5546
      @rdm5546 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eamonkelly3256 That is what I said when bought the EF trinity about fourteen years ago. The the MK II and MK III versions came out. I held out for the the first upgrades and then caved for some of the second round of upgrade. The RF transistion was a shock for me that I did not see ever coming. I learned to never say never. I also got the RF 50f1.2 which is the most amazing 50mm Canon has ever made.

  • @Dartheomus
    @Dartheomus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish this video compared sharpness and distortion on identical images at 2-3 different focal lengths. I also wish it showed both lenses @ f4 and what additional value you got out of the f2.8. This felt more like a commercial for canon lenses than a comparison. =/

  • @williamchan8866
    @williamchan8866 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For wildlife the f4 version is great keeps it light and more than fast enough so I can still carry my longer lens with ease.

  • @MiKeTuScAnI
    @MiKeTuScAnI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just ordered the RF70200 F4!!!! Great review!!

  • @MariusMutin
    @MariusMutin ปีที่แล้ว

    Canon better get that zoom ring back.. not buying that RF 2.8 as such.. sticking to the EF version for now.

  • @mjztx
    @mjztx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm happy using my converted Tamron 70-200mm 2.8 VC G2. I'm hard pressed to give that up for the price difference right now. Both look like nice lenses though.

  • @holamiju
    @holamiju 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Jared

  • @Gremlack13
    @Gremlack13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As an amateur/enthusiast, the f4 glass is perfect for my needs.
    I have the 24-105 f4 and 70-200 f4, to pair with my rp, and they suit my needs well right now.

  • @Thomasjcolbert82
    @Thomasjcolbert82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also have the 2.8 and love it.

  • @mtjsrc1
    @mtjsrc1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the R5 and F4 lens, and I am saving the 1100 for the new RF14mm when it comes out. The F4 is my absolute favorite everyday lens!

  • @donodom3
    @donodom3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has anyone noticed the IS wobble while the camera is powered off? Seems like it’s normal after reading through the forums, but damn that is strange.

  • @sergioconceicao2774
    @sergioconceicao2774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is the Canon RF 70-200 f2.8 for astrophotography?
    Is the coma reduced?
    I'm torn between f2.8 and f4

  • @niconico2361
    @niconico2361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @Jared, my main concern is about the lack of filter door on the f/4. It’s a deal breaker for me as i would buy a 70-200mm for landscape

    • @mattjamesbenson
      @mattjamesbenson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For $1,100 you could just buy f/2.8 lens hood and use it on the f/4. The size and weight of the f/4 version is way more ideal for landscapes, especially considering you'll never shoot wide open.

    • @niconico2361
      @niconico2361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattjamesbenson thanks, did you actually try the f/2.8 lens hood on the f/4 ? does it fit for sure ?

  • @mitas3484
    @mitas3484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got the F2.8 based on your holy trinity review, so far I've not been at a shoot where I didn't have the tools I needed

  • @silvercruze2191
    @silvercruze2191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice review 👍🏼

  • @glenntracey4127
    @glenntracey4127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review Jared, you have such energy and sound down to earth advice.
    I have a quick question you may be able to help me with. You mentioned about you dont need manual focus on these camera's which I agree but I had a scenario recently where I took my Canon R5 with RF 24-70 F2.8 lens to the zoo and in a few shots it had trouble finding the "animal" and would lock onto some fauna or the like. I never had the animal detect activated but I was thinking would I be better off shooting with single point focus in this situation ? What / how would you set up your camera in that environment ?
    Thanks in advance.

  • @Manihsi
    @Manihsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your killing us with lot of advertisements , unbelievable!

  • @Jin.Sensei
    @Jin.Sensei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You said in a couple of videos already " why do you even need manual"
    For me personally: astrophotography and slower manual focus for video.
    Other than that yeah I dont use manual focus.

    • @fourwheelerjock
      @fourwheelerjock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Video guys still use manual focus also. For me I specially still use manual for some B Roll shots. Manual still has its place.

    • @disphoto
      @disphoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use manual focus all the time for tricky still subjects. For example when you are shooting through something with glass, plastic, or beads of water on it. You want to get to a specific "layer." My cases usually happen with shorter focal lenses and macro lenses. Not so much with a telephoto lens. The camera needs to be on a tripod and the subject is still.

  • @FabFemmeTV
    @FabFemmeTV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is very helpful. Thank you Jared!

  • @nealshafto-sq2jc
    @nealshafto-sq2jc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No “R5” mirrorless for Me, I use the 5D Mk iv and the EOS Canon L glass 70-200 F:2.8 and it is fantastic. I do have the M6, and use it for video and carry around for my EOS Canon L:series 24-105 F:4. I also use the M6 for My Infrared photography on the 24-105

  • @ColinRobertson_LLAP
    @ColinRobertson_LLAP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the fantastic EF 70-200 f/4 IS II, but using it adapted on my EOS R is getting old... I'm sorely tempted to replace my lens with the RF f/4, but realistically, I would upgrade to the RF f/2.8. It's still an upgrade in terms of size (5.75" vs 6.93" tall), and obviously an upgrade in terms of max aperture. It is heavier though (2.35 lbs vs. 1.72 lbs).

  • @JaredRibic
    @JaredRibic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got the RF 70-200mm f/2.7L IS - even though I said I wouldn't get it. I don't like the extending barrel, and especially don't like how much you need to turn the zoom ring to get from 70mm to 200mm (compared to my EF version).
    Thanks for doing this video. It was interesting to see that Canon put the control ring on the f/4 version out toward the far end of the lens, compared to the control ring that's in close to the body on the f/2.8 version.
    I would like to see more consistency from Canon on where the control ring will be. Before I bought any RF lenses I was using the control-ring adapter on my EF lenses and the control ring was always in the same place. Once I started picking up RF lenses I noticed it's not quite the same for each lens. Then I got the RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS and it's completely different than all other RF lenses.

  • @michaelh7506
    @michaelh7506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jerod, I enjoy watching your vids, your so honest and tell it like it is, I come from film and black n white darkroom experience. When I was in high school I got involved with the Newspaper. Did most of the darkroom responsibilities that was fun. Im retired now camera shopping waiting to see what Canon is going to produce. I have looked at the R5 and R6. I mostly interested in wildlife and macro photography. Love your photos.

  • @PramodRamnath
    @PramodRamnath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Just bought your Fropack bundle! Can't wait to do some quick editing !

  • @dougnelson423
    @dougnelson423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another informative video Jared. Thanks

  • @LGS_Inc
    @LGS_Inc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ready for that FroPack 4

  • @unknownKnownunknowns
    @unknownKnownunknowns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d get F/4. Need the extra few inches of DOF to hit focus in action sports.

    • @unknownKnownunknowns
      @unknownKnownunknowns ปีที่แล้ว

      Update: $1099 proce at refurb sale in December made this a no-brainer decision vs 2.8

  • @Tmanw8898
    @Tmanw8898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used a Tamron 70-200 G2 on a eos R to photograph hockey and it did fairly well. I'm currently upgrading the rest of my glass to RF lenses, and I'm leaning towards replacing the 70-200 last just because I like the speed and results I've gotten from it. If all goes to plan next month it will be my only adapted lens. That way I can just keep the adapter on that lens and keep things a little bit simple rather than a 50/50 mix of RF and EF lenses.

  • @upcomingvillain
    @upcomingvillain ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m just getting into this and shot my first formula race with only a 50mm prime. Think I’m gonna start with the f4 and if I can start getting gigs you can still sell it all day for 1200 and then upgrade!

  • @Tainted-Soul
    @Tainted-Soul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jared I think if the F4 was out when i got the R5 I may have gone for that but as I pre-ordered the RF70-200 F2.8 with the R5 I cant see the point to down grade only in weight and size
    but after getting the RF100-500 I have found I dont even look at the 70-200 , may be in low light is all

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing here surprises me, except how tiny the F/4 is. I have the EF 70-200 F/4 Mark II, a really great lens that I've used many times for landscape and occasionally wildlife. The RF F/4 looks like it's half the size of even the EF F/4, NM the F/2.8s in either mount. A trade-in may be in order as weight savings is a consideration for me.

  • @Chemy.
    @Chemy. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's just an option, nice video man

  • @fourwheelerjock
    @fourwheelerjock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem with the RF 70-200F2.8 is the zoom ring is out on the end of the lens. These company's need to stay away from that imo. I'm way more unstable with it that way. Even with my EF converter the old EF 70-200 is much more comfortable and zooms smoother imo. Plus during a rainy shoot the rain cover can get caught in the lens with a external zoom. So for me. The old EF version 3 is still king

    • @felipecastro8668
      @felipecastro8668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the EF III version has the same optical quality as the RF version. For those who face challenging atmospheric situations, the EF III version is still the best option.

  • @AaronVWard
    @AaronVWard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sniff test did it for me. Just bought one.

  • @carteral-harlem3042
    @carteral-harlem3042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can't wait for the 14-35 f4 to drop so I can complete the trilogy.

  • @mjpt57
    @mjpt57 ปีที่แล้ว

    Downloaded some of the images to the iPad Pro and viewed in Lr. It’s noise reduction feature was able to remove some of the noise from the hi-ISO images that I looked at.

  • @breakingrain9660
    @breakingrain9660 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for this video

  • @JuhaNoerger
    @JuhaNoerger 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha awesome- very informative and entertaining at the same time. Thanks for the posting!

  • @frederickmcdonald6636
    @frederickmcdonald6636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Factual and funny - loved this video! Makes the decision easier....

  • @marknorris3769
    @marknorris3769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    rf 70-200 2.8 nice portrait lens

  • @gerrypower8186
    @gerrypower8186 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoy your videos. What lens would be your recommendation to a hobbyist who shoots birds. I currently have a Canon R10.

    • @bruck177
      @bruck177 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Recommend starting with the RF 100-400. It’s inexpensive, light weight, fast focusing and sharp. I use it on my R10 and it’s a great combo

  • @schiueva
    @schiueva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still a very expensive F4 lens. If money is an issue, get a A7iii and Tamron 70-180 F2.8 is also a good choice?

    • @bikash3003
      @bikash3003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Money matters after all

    • @TheRealMugglemind
      @TheRealMugglemind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As the review is a side by side of RF native lenses, suggesting getting an A7iii means the target audience would likely have to spend even more money on a new camera, making that an even more expensive option.

    • @auliaalam4860
      @auliaalam4860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tamron 70-180 doesn't have image stabilization, the lens will wither stuck on sport genre or tripod when light is challenging

  • @crank_FPV
    @crank_FPV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FYI polar pro VND do not fit with the 2.8 with lens hood on..kinda sucks

  • @TorresinhoLFC
    @TorresinhoLFC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you shoot basketball and you go to well lit gyms this is the dream. The 2.8 is too narrow of a focus a lot of times and if the ISO wouldn't be too high this would be preferred rather than my setup (a7iii 70-200 GM). The weight is awesome. Body and lens is just my GM in terms of weight. If i knew i'd only shoot in perfectly lit gyms it'd go for the R6,24-105 f4 and 70-200 f4 and be perfectly fine. The matter of the fact is I sometimes go to 12800 ISO even at 2.8 so f4 is not an option for me.

  • @grecudanalexandru
    @grecudanalexandru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got my RF70-200 2.8 , my first fixed aperture lens an noticed something strange in relatively dim conditions in the evening, the ISO would go up considerably while zooming in towards 200mm, aperture stays at 2.8. Would appreciate some technical explanation on what might lead to ISO increase when zooming at same lens opening. And if this is to be expected on all the lens designs, may that be internal or external zooming. Happy holidays!

  • @andyp7787
    @andyp7787 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish you showed the difference in results when these lenses are pushed, such as in lower light. The conclusion one can draw from your comparison is the F4 is barely inferior but far less money. Now I think I know where the 2.8 will show it’s worth $1100 bucks more but you should have at least touched on that.

  • @peaceyoman123
    @peaceyoman123 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have watched all of your videos when they came out and re-watch them when I change or update gear accordingly. I just sold my 24-105L for a 24-70 2.8 and was wondering what the dif would be for the zoom range from your information and my own exp with 4.0 lenses, I think the 70-200 f4 would be good if most of the work is outside or in good light. regardless thank you again for being one of the best if not the best at braking down gear and use cases.