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Just leased a 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited and over the holidays took it on a 2000 mile road trip to visit family in Kentucky from MA. Had to wait on a charger once but otherwise was able to find high speed chargers all along the route. Loved it. I’ll never go back to fossil fuel.
The UK on energy imports topped £100bn for the first time on record, with DeSmog's analysis indicating that the UK spent more than £125.7bn on fossil fuel imports in the year beginning February 2022. By install renewable and changing the vehicles to EV this money stays in the UK.
Installing renewables is why energy imports reached a record high ...to make up for all the times when renewables failed to generate the power as needed.
@@Leo555ZZZ That's simply not true, those figures are £ not volume, you seem to have forgot that wholesale energy prices skyrocketed due to geopolitics. However, there's obviously been an issue with base load smoothing (as there always has been will FF generation and VERY expensive pica plants), but that is going away due to storage systems.
The Chinese are building UK power plant once finished UK won't rely on outside power. Also china has upgraded UK tab water in 2023, it now taste like mineral water lol
I'm in the South of England and am on my second Tesla over the past 5 years. Love it, no problems no dramas and saves me money. They are everywhere, not quite as many as Norway but market penetration is increasing here as the word gets around; there is NO problem with daily driving an EV and in fact it's a better experience.
@ it’s not compulsory; some people find change very challenging. Many people will vow to drive ICE until the day they die and that’s absolutely fine of course. But younger people will adopt the current technology naturally, as young people always have. And eventually very few people will drive at all because self driving cars will be completely reliable, safe, ubiquitous and cheap. At that point road traffic deaths will be dramatically lessened. We move forward :-)
Love your channel, Sam. I drive a Tesla in the UK and charging is faultless if you drive a Tesla. Other infrastructure providers are flaky in operation, faulty and have complex accessibility. I agree it's just not there yet. Many homes are not accessible for home charging and range anxiety are the issues.
Hi Sam, greetings from Oxford in the U.K. We are transitioning to BEVs here, but we do have inequality that has to be addressed. Land is at a premium here, because as you point out, we are a physically small country. This means that a disproportionately high number of dwellings have no driveway, with cars parked on streets and parking lots for flats. Residents of these dwellings are unable to charge from their own electricity supply, and so would be dependent on public chargers. These are overpriced and still in short supply. This is a massive barrier to BEV adoption.
The biggest problem is the price inequality of charging. Those that can home charge paying 7p per kWhr overnight, those that can’t paying between 40p and 80p per kWhr for public charging. This just creates bad feelings towards EV drivers generally.
@ Induction charging has large efficiency losses, it also requires the two magnetic fields and coils to be very close to each other. The example of an electric toothbrush is a good one, the induction coils are inserted int each other to improve the field interaction. The toothbrush has a hole in its base, the charge stand inserts into that hole. Induction charging is essentially a separable transformer, and as such it can only work on AC.
I’m in the UK and on my second electric car. My second one is a Chinese BYD dolphin. Good cheap car. The media is so anti EV, I don’t know why it’s weird.
Owned a model 3 for 4 years and love it to bits. Tesla supercharge network was a game changer but generally the supercharging network is also improving. Media don’t get it. If only I had a £1 for every article written about EV on range anxiety and trying to run the battery flat….
@@ohyesitsmepeople aren't paying it though the flood of used is coming from ex lease vehicles I presume the lease companies got massive discounts, today I can get a decent ev for under £250 a month and my petrol saving would be around £200 a month
I bought EV my wife bought an EV I will never go back to a fuel car we can afford another holiday each year just on the savings. I then bought solars and a battery I did it again I saved a bomb. Keep your fuel cars I love the EV Hyundai and BMW both ranges ok just learn how to use it wisely! Get ZapMap to find chargers they’re everywhere! Europe now drive EV Lorry’s Skania etc.. Ignore the media about EVs a total lie - never had problem!
BEVs made up 19.6% of all car sales in 2024 missing the government mandate of 22%. Auto manufacturers are facing fines of up to £980 million unless they can buy or borrow carbon credits from other auto manufacturers such as Tesla. Digging down into the figures is interesting. There was a huge surge in December, taking BEV share up to what appears to be an incredible 31%. However, all is not as it appears, because these were actually pre-registrations that do count towards the government mandate even though they don't have buyers. Since nobody in their right mind buys cars in December, these BEVs that were apparently "sold" in December are now appearing in January adverts. This is front loading 2025 with December 2024 BEVs. 2025 should be interesting indeed, since on top of the front loading, the mandate rises to 28%. Maybe China can come to the rescue, but that spells the end for European car makers.
This is what I'd read. The "sales" are only high because the fines are so great. It's not the public rushing out to buy EVs! The old problems of range and charging network remain, but the new twist is horrific depreciation on new EVs.
I agree. The dealers won’t sell you an ice car in December because of the £15 k fine. It’s a spike. Watch January when they have product. No one wants Bev.
Same has been done with ICE cars for decades and still is. I’ve no doubt there was a surge of pre-reg for EV’s, but it’s being blown out of all proportion by the press as usual and parroted back to fit the anti-EV narrative.
@@kalex381Wrong. Those are only people who bought for cash/loan, there are huge numbers of private buyers that are included in ‘fleet’ because that includes lease/PCP. We need better stats!
So that means that we will never have cheap prices in the UK no matter 1/3 is from renewables. We may as well go fully back to gas since that’s the price we are currently paying.
UK power prices are high because they don't have enough coal and nuclear plants , and have spent too much on unreliable wind and solar which then increases the need for gas to fill the gaps. Now they have to import nuclear power from Europe.
@@Leo555ZZZ that’s a huge own goal…who make all this retarded decisions??? We need stable cheap energy in the Uk to support economic growth - yet we get unreliable expensive energy all while spending billions on vanity renewable projects.
@@paulc6766 and that’s the point,,,even if one day UK is 100% renewables, a government can find a way to charge extortionate artificial prices. the benefits of renewable are not being passed onto the consumer..
UK here, Sam is right, absolutely no reason why you can't have an EV if you live in the UK, if you can afford one and you can get charging. I've just leased an EV in the end of the year panic sale from VW, it was a bargain, but I have a driveway and access to cheap electricity. But if I had to fill up at 79p per kWh it's more expensive than petrol. Even with a monthly subsription at Ionity it's 44p per kWh. The government need to get the price of electricity under control if they want to see the end of petrol and diesel.
Excellent video Sam. This is the future, and every country will go through this transformation. I am an Aussie EV owner and have the same feeling whenever I drive around: "I am driving for free". Soon everyone will see the light, and the air will be so much cleaner!
As a UK citizen it is good to hear this news. However, there are a lot of people in the UK without offstreet parking. It is not practical to run an EV if you do not have a way to charge it overnight. Banning ICE sales is not enough. They have to provide cheap street charging in areas where people dont have driveways and that is not happening. For some reason all the pro-EV TH-camrs ignore this important fact when discussing EV adoption in the UK. It also applies to some other European countries but they are doing more to remedy it. The attitude of local government in the UK who should be taking action is that EVs are too expensive for people living in flats and terraced housing so no point in providing lamppost charging.
We’ll never have overnight home charging for everybody in the UK, or most other countries. What we need is properly controlled public charging (price capped), more fast chargers and faster EV charging (this is coming). The big problem is the inequity of pricing at the moment - 7p per kWhr at home overnight vs up to 79p per kWhr public. That’s ridiculous.
We need the overnight ac charging out of the lamposts and bollards than many cities in europe have. Also a cap in the charges. May be each council could form there own ev charger company, that could sell for a couple of pence over house rates and the profit can fund expansion. National government, giving they are the one setting targets, should be the one to initially float the cost of the local government set up costs. It shouldn't cost a lot to start out with a standardised 3g conectivity (for payment), bolt on lampost set up. Thr ones in europe are very discreet, therr is some here already. Its just a plug and you use tour own cable. Once demand is growing, so should the profits and thr roll out should snowball. Im sure the rate the councils lay for electricity is very low too. So there shoudl be decent margins if thry sell for say 12-15p pkw. Normal house electricity is around 25p and an ev over night tariff is 7p. So i think 15p is fine. Especially when most evs get beween 3 and 4 miles per kW, so that's sub 5p per mile. That's half the price of the most eco hybrid, which was the Hyundai ioniq hybrid. The pryus isnt as efficient. So i think local government could offer a service needed, held overall government tsrgets and they could generate much needed income, in a tiem when many are on the brink of going bust. It seems a win win win.
Tesco have just rebuilt their Petrol station down the road from me, and they only put one lonely charger in. Seems there is space for more to be put in but why start with one. Also they are always far away with no cover if raining which seems bizarre as you using electricity which don't mix nicely. Just thpught maybe they cannot get enough power to the station hence only one charger.
@ Rain isn’t an issue at all for EV charging, but do agree they should be located just like petrol pumps are. My nearest chargers (I don’t use them) are just like you say - two next to each other, no proper lighting or cover.
@StephenButlerOne sounds good, but in a poor area of old terraced housing, I think how many houses would share each lamp post, I guess at least 30 cars per lamp post. It would work in a wealthier area where only a handful of cars would need lamp post charging, but in densely populated ares with a large number of Ev's, it's just not happening.
With the introduction of new lower priced EV models and growing price parity between equivalent BEV & ICE models 2025 could well be a breakthrough year in the UK.
The reason for "price parity" is that the manufacturers are losing money on each EV they produce that they have to claw it back by hiking the price on ICE cars. If you look at Autotrader you can see how these EVs have massively depreciated by using AT Tracker
I've got 2.5yrs left on my Petrol hybrid lease and then I'll be making the switch to an ev. Would have been sooner but car prices were just too high, thankfully they are coming down now closer to what I can afford.
It’s not really a problem. My first 2 EVs have been salary sacrifice cars that come under those numbers. Wouldn’t have had an EV without that benefit. It is a win win because a new EV enters the market and will end up in the used private sales pool within a couple of years…
@@amiddled I was not aware than a salary sacrifice scheme counts under "fleet numbers" although it make sence. Thank you for pointing it out:) In that case I would adjust my comment above as to agree with it as I know many people got an BEV that way which are still private for use :)
@@nedywest71- personal leasing is also counted under fleet (pcp etc.) as its the leasing company that owns the car (until the final payment). Its only cash, bank loan and third-party loans that count as private.
I drove from Blackpool to Exeter in 5 hours 15 minutes yesterday. We're a medium sized island and I like it that way! You can drive up Ireland in a couple hours.
I have nothing against EVs as such. However, I live in a 1st floor flat so will never be able to charge at home, can't charge at work, and my nearest public charger is a good 30 min walk away and very expensive. It will be a long time before it becomes financially viable for me to own one!
Nice summary. UK has some characteristics that make it ideal for EV - it is pretty small and the distances between major cities are also small. We have also installed a lot of onshore and offshore wind and there are many times when there is too much for us to use, so being able to use our road transport fleet to soak up some of that spare electricity is ideal - essentially we have already built much of the energy infra we will need to power our cars! One significant issue is that around 35-40% of households don't have off street parking, although this number is lower for car-owning households, and it will be challenging to make EV's as cost effective for these consumers as they are for those who can charge from their own electricity supply, although it should be possible to make it no more expensive than petrol.
Used car prices for EVs have also come down a lot, part of the barrier to adoption has been the inability for people without driveways to charge from home.
most ev are pre register by dealers and sold to fleet buyers because of the uk tax laws, otherwise no private buyers are buying new ev because they are so expensive and new road tax is coming to ev in april!
@@ISuperTed Wrong. Sales to private buyers are down, only fleet sales are up. The reason second hand prices tank is lack of people wanting the inconvenience, mundanity and stupidity of running an ev for a large number of people. For the average joe who has a drive and has little interest in driving- fine. Quite a number of first time buyers sell and go back to ice. They have a long way to go/be developed yet. Don't even get me started on lifetime resources used for an ev build and running it. You are sticking your heads in the sand over looking what it takes to build an ev and run it. Lastly, of relatively less importance [but more important to those who enjoy driving sporty cars], as a driving machine to enjoy [interaction, handling, weight, sound].....they are nowhere, and never will be.
@ Sad that you don’t get it. Fleet sales include PCP and leasing. These are the most popular ways private buyers drive new cars, but because the leasing company owns the car, it’s classed as fleet and not private. As for the rest of your comment, you’re welcome to your views but I disagree with all of them apart from theres a long way to go with EV’s.
EVs make so much sense if you have solar panels to provide electricity. EV batteries are getting much better and mileage. Condo and apartments should be required to have solar roofs with mini wind turbines.
Sam don’t forget that most manufacturers held back delivery of ICE cars in 2024 to help with the penalties being placed on them for not meeting EV zero emission mandate targets.This why EV sales look better as a percentage overall. Reason for not having more EV’s in UK is the charging infrastructure. It’s terrible unless you have a Tesla. Also you are not driving for free in an EV charged by solar are you? What about the costs to install. This might be a good video to show the break point to free driving?
Diesels have been phased out by car makers over the last 5 years, that is why diesel sales are where they are now here and still dominated by petrol and hybrid sales as EV not yet fit for purpose for the masses. Only one in ten private buyers chose an electric vehicle last year (dominant by business sales with salary sacrifice) despite an 'unsustainable' £4.5billion in price cuts offered by car makers. As the technology moves forward it will move higher than the current 19% market share but it’s a way away still and not happening quickly.
Do you own an EV or are you just parroting media propaganda? I've done loads of round trips over 400 miles and never had any issues with charging or range.
So many rural places have inadequate charging facilities, and home charging isn't easy when you don;t have a drive and can't park close to your home. Can't use my wife's EV for our regular weekends in the country. So, just bought a petrol-engined car so I can go anywhere.
I think the issue is still cost as most people can’t afford to buy a new car every year but growth is growth it proves that the people who hate ev’s are wrong!
A Dacia Spring EV starts at under £15k brand new. And in any case, in the UK over 90% of all new car "purchases" are nothing of the sort - they are rented or to use the posh word "leased". There much made of the supposed plummeting value of second hand EVs. So you cannot win, when they are new they are "too expensive" and when they are second hand they are "too cheap".
Who are a very small percentage of new car buyers now. Vast majority lease/PCP who are classed as business (but shouldn’t be). I agree private buyers numbers are small, but there are for ICE too.
A: People in the UK are used to smaller cars. There is limited choice of EV models at the lower end and they are still unaffordable for a lot of people. Watch what happens when Chinese vehicles arrive en masse. There will be a huge jump in the sales figures. B. Legacy have had many years to move to EV's. As Sam said, they are reluctant and make their money from ICE so they've dragged their feet for too long. C. Drop the percentage's for manufacturers and the UK government will just be playing along with legacy carmakers. Set the targets, stick to them and enforce fines. Legacy will still be moaning if they're around in 5ys time.
Vehicles with v2g batteries are massive FREE electricity storage on wheels 23hrs daily and all NIGHT LONG. Park on a dime selfplug-in to trickle currents any where on the grid. The grid will identify your vehicle. The grid will bill your home. Selfplug-in N play v2g. Happy days. No imported petroleum. No spare parts. Cheap servicing.
@ohyesitsme Australia is in Sahara Desert latitudes. Too much sunshine, rooftop PV, and 20 million rooftops. Grid capacity and generation is expensive to upgrade, and rooftop PV is dirt cheap with predictable uptake by building and home owners. A warehouse nearby saves $10,000 a quarter on grid electricity costs.
Sam, always peaks in December UK because the market chokes supplie and adds incentive to hit there year end 22% or 18% as you say. what’s the year over year december 23 vs 24 to get a better comparison
From the U.K. and I work in the automotive industry. The biggest issues here in the U.K. is the infrastructure, we are slowly getting there, the current public charging network is more expensive than running a ICE vehicle. EVs sales, here in the UK are mostly company car sales, the more interesting figures are the in the used market. Personally I would have one and think I can make it work with my lifestyle. But they are still to expensive for the average working family and half of the household don’t have a driveway so would not be able to charge at home on the cheaper rates.
Where does this "half of households don't have a driveway" statistic come from, the most recent household survey, published 24th Dec, determined that the average is 68% have off street parking. This 50%, or lower, keeps getting stated but there is no authoritative source ever given.
@@trustinflames1022 - commando lead, granny charger, electrician installed wall or post mounted charger box on a 40a protected extension, or a wall mounted charger box with an 8, 10 or 20 meter charging lead. Many EV owners with driveways, or a garage block, come up with inventive ways to charge their cars.
@GruffSillyGoat I am sure they do, for me I would need to run a cable across the road to the parking spaces, don’t think that’s such a great idea. Or park around the side of the house and run the cable across the path. Not ideal either, but you can now get Kerbo what is the choice I will go with in a few years when I do purchase a EV. I am not knocking EVs, it’s just not as simple as everyone thinks.
@@trustinflames1022 - There's an install near us where the electrician ran an armoured cable in a plastic gully box alongise the a path from the back of the house to front, it looked quite good in the end looking like garden edging along the path. I believe most EV owners don't assume much of anything, they know it's different for every case. It's just those, not yourself of course, who constantly doom and gloom about EVs or overblow any specifc case as being applicable to the majority just in order to support their personal biases and seek to beguile this as being a majority view (when it very much isn't).
Will be interesting to see how many Ford Puma EVs they sell this year as it's fresh to market and the UKs best selling car. The first car they have capable of selling in volume
Fleet sales up. Private sales down. Should have reported this not just taken the overall figure. Car prices in the UK must be some of the highest in the world. To drive real growth in the private sector government incentives will be needed.
Have the cars been sold, or have they been "pre registered" and warehoused? If they have been "warehoused" the danger is further down the line when these cars are released, they will cause even greater depreciation for existing ev owners.
One of the major drawbacks to EV adoption here in the UK is the supercharging prices which are set astronomically high by the likes of Shell and Esso etc, typically 75 to 85 pence per kilowatt 24/7 whereas Tesla starts at 39 pence. Pricing is ringed but our weak, inexperienced government do nothing to stop this blatant profiteering as they rack in millions in VAT and taxes. Once pricing drops to the same as Europe, around 30 ppkWh then EV adoption will increase rapidly.
The very simple reason why E Vs have been slow to take off in the UK is very basic. 1. Price to high in comparison to ICEs 2. Range anxiety 3. New Brand quality untested and unknown 4. Charging infrastructure scale and reliability That is all rapidly changing. Chinese brands are begining to have success in the UK. These cars are gaining in reputation for tech and reliability, They are cheap in comparison to other EU brands, UK does not have any tariffs on Chinese brands and 600km range is now very achieveable with battery tech. The UK also has a growing range of reliable EV chargers. I predict that it is just a matter af 4 or 5 years before the most common newcars in the UK are Chinese pure EVs. MG, BYD, Hyandi, Kia, Tesla, Geely, xpeng and Nio will be just some of the commonly recognised EV brands.
I have an ev now since nearly a month. Got it in winter and range drops alot so the tech is not there yet imo. I mean besides loby ing that you’ve mentioned there’re still couple of years for this tech to mature and settle down. There has to be an invention that the batteries shouldn’t get impacted this much 🤷♂️ or we need ranges begins at least from 1000 kms or charging times less than 10mins. Otherwise this ranges and charging times is gonna be a hassle. 😊
This isn't the case there are more low mileage ICE on sale than BEVs, and it went up recently on Autotrader. There BEV growth is 67,000 and over 382,000 vehicles in total for 2024, even if the automakers/dealers pre-registered a few percent of these the losses involved and impact on 2025 sales would be too great to support. Rather as published by the industry group the automakers used the flexibilities in the ZEV mandate to convert their overstock of CO2 credits from hybrids/diesels to ZEV credits. The automakers are concerned about 2025 with this approach as this year they face higher CO2 and ZEV mandate targets. Hence are seeking relaxation of the flexibilities involved.
@@ohyesitsme - which bit? The points taken are from the S.M.M.T press release, or the cost of depreciation of BEVs with the eventual disposal of an EV and the displacement impact on 2025 sales being more costly than a £15k fine (eventhough no manufacturer according to the UK government analysis will face such penalties due to the ZEV mandate flexibilities), or that autotrader list a higher number of low milage 2024 ICE vehicles (5,421) but a smaller number of EVs (2,114).
Under 50% Brits have off street parking / charging capability so EV uptake will be less than 50% as no one wants to rely on public charges which are often broken or slow
Rubbish, the household figures we're released on the 24th Dec - this states those without access to off-street parking is 32% (25% in Wales, 37% in Scotland).
I live in Slough town we have the second highest registered electric cars in the UK 91,000 and Stockport is number one, we are only a small town how is that possible. H. Bains
Just short of 2 million cars registered in the UK in 2024 of which 381,000 were B E V's. Thats about 19% and it's about 3.5% short of target. So the other cars registered were Petrol and Diesel. I don't have the breakdown for these.
At least 30% of the UK population live in terraced houses or blocks of flats. When the only method of recharging is at a charging station and the cost is a multiple of home electricity and the differential is exacerbated by differential VAT charges it is little wonder that EV take up is slower than might otherwise be expected. Not defending ice but perhaps the Viking can do an cost comparison for ice v BEV when BEV is charged solely via charging stations
I've lived in UK terraced housing and guess what, I couldn't plug my EV in! Oh sorry I forgot - I walked. For those that don't know the UK most terraced housing is near the city centre and you really don't need a car at all.
There are lots of ways to access cheap 2 kW or 7 kW charging, even if you don't have a driveway. Just need some imagination and possibly put up with some inconvenience.
The sales in December exploded in UK because companies proposed huge discounts in order to try to reach the % of EV sales imposed by the UK and avoid the fines. I am not sure how that will be reflected in 2025 but at least it confirms that people are willing to buy EVs if they are decently priced. For people which can charge at home I think EVs will rapidly become a no brainer. For people like me who can't a decent network of fast, no too heavily priced charging station is mandatory. Countries are slashing incentives on EVs, fine they are starting to become affordable, now they should provide incentives for the installation of charging stations.
In other words the automakers got the market wrong, thinking premium vehicles and high priced SUVs were the demand areas, so pricing vehicles too high in order to make extra profits. But the early adopter phase was fading, so had to offer attractive leasing discounts and deals to attract customers. This year they are bringing out more smaller affordable cars that meet the early majority market needs. So pretty much the norm for when a market shift occurs, as happened in the last when diesels lost favour to petrol.
In the UK in December 2024, the best selling Car was a Tesla Model Y. The second best selling car was a Tesla Model 3. Tesla sold more of just two car models in December than Toyota's entire range. Last year we took a 330 mile each way trip up north to the Scottish Borders just south of Edinburgh in a Tesla Model Y LR via the A1 and it was easy. We stopped twice each way not because the car had to but because we had to. And the latest Model Y dual motor does over 30 miles more than our one does and I am guessing the Juniper when it arrives will go further still. Personally I would like to do the trip again but in the charming little Dacia Spring EV. Yes it might take longer with more stops but the slower you go, the more time to enjoy the sights along the way.
Sam Viking is trying to make us believe the EV Dec sales figures in UK are due to public demand. Wrong. Suppliers had to offload cars to meet government sales targets so as to avoid fines. Only one on ten EV sales in the UK are to private buyers and businesses are purchasing EVs primarily due to tax incentives that aren't available to the general public.
At 66 I still work serving vehicles in my own business… I speak to a lot of people who have no idea about electric cars… I try to educate them a little 9f the subject comes up… Many are just holding on to their cars for now, not wanting to jump into EVs too early in their development as better things are just around the corner… Many wouldn’t buy any new car anyway but I feel the market is pregnant with potential and a time will come soon for gestation to end, the bubble will burst…
Even though they have pre-registered (not sold) thousands of EV's they still couldn't meet the ZEV mandate requirements. If it wasn't for business users and lease companies they would be a total failure.
Looks like early adopters have bought. But the rest of the market is not enthusiastic. Only half of UK could have home charging. Public charging is still problematic. Forcing a market is a bad policy.
It’s gradually changing as cheaper new EV’s are coming and loads of chargers being installed everywhere. Take your point though on forcing it by mandates etc - personally I don’t think that’s a good idea.
BMW just announced the largest investment in the UK Rolls Royce cars factory since it opened in 2003 at Goodwood. Its biggest selling car is the all electric Spectre and the expansion is for a full move to electric and to add to its customer car facilities. BMW had already announced in 2024 its plans for the Mini factory at Cowley, Oxford where it will be investing in the transition to electric by 2027. Funny Sam never reports stories like this!
How do we charge at home in terrace street? I cannot even park in my street 50% of the time. Super chargers are too expensive to entice most of us who cannot charge at home. Cannot argue with the poison. DPF filter is enough to make you swap to EV.
I've lived in UK terraced housing and guess what, I couldn't plug my EV in! Oh sorry I forgot - I walked. For those that don't know the UK most terraced housing is near the city centre and you really don't need a car at all.
Do you know why? A lot of these new Heat pump companies have bought electric cars and vans. They've also offered them to us for a 3 or 4 year plan on company lease. We get tax benefits. Look up octopus energy car scheme. You will get your answer. We have to pay £300 a month and after 4 years we give the car back. So you pay £3600 per year for the use of it. Octopus wanted you to get an ev charger. I live on a campsite lol. They give you a charing card for the charging stations dotted around the country but now you have to wait an hour to charge your van while getting paid. They prefer you charge it at home in your own time. They do also offer cheaper electricity but that is because octopus is a supplier. Funded by Al Gore £600.000.000. The company is awful, though, lol. Don't tell them I told you ;)
Chinese made cars have 10% import tax. The Zero Emmission rules do not include hybrids. ZEV target for 2030 is currently 80%. The main problem in the UK is if you look at Fiat 500 and Mini clubman the electric version is $12,000 higher price than the ICE.
But Citroen e-C3, Renault 5, Vauxhall Frontera, FIA Panda, Dacia Spring, Hyundai Instar aren’t. Some are the same price as Hybrid now. It’s changing and the likes of the Fiat 500 and Mini Clubman are already looking outdated.
What I see as the European problem is that car makers saw Tesla's success and thought "There's a top-dollar market here we didn't know about!" - so they went into a version of that - at top dollar. But mass sales won't work at top dollar, which is what they are now discovering. Meanwhile, China has developed a range of useful (impressive even) A to B budget EVs. One guess who will win that contest...
They tried to convert ICE car design and methodology to producing expensive EV’s and it was mostly a disaster (look at VW!). Tesla and China do it right - ground up EV’s and manufacturing processes.
What really is happening is the manufacturers were forced to pre-register EV’s at a great loss to avoid fines. Combine this with restrictions on the cars people actuall want/need to buy ICE cars the picture looks great. Dig a little deeper and you will see that sales to private buyers was at an all time low. Without incentives there is no demand for them, private buyers are not interested in them. Next year the first few months will show a truer picture as manufacturers cannot keep making loses on the cars they sell so pre-registering will drop. One look at Germany shows what happens when incentives are removed, EV sales crashed by 69%, once again no one wants them.
Some background about present UK conditions: The Labor Government has gone for a "Tax & Spend" budget. Having driven PHEV and BEV for 12 years and paid no Road Tax, in 3 months time (April 2025) I will be paying £600 a year. £400 of that is a "Luxury Car Tax," payable for the first 5 years on cars that cost over £40,000 new. That is practically 3/4 of all BEVs at a guess. A second point, with the increase in National Insurance payments on nearly every worker in most companies, prices are going to go UP. So at present, most folks are sitting on their wallets and waiting to see what happens, (that is those that actually have any Money in them). Companies are doing the same, with no incentive to hire more workers. When the Chinese bring over BEVs that are at price parity with their ICE counterparts, and are priced under the "Luxury Car" limit, better still under £20,000 on-the-road, then things might take off. On another point, I believe SMMT monthly figures for 2024 show EV sales up EVERY MONTH for the year. They are Down on Diesel and petrol models.
The government in the last budget said they would review the VED and luxury enhancement put in place by the previous govenrment before the start of the next tax year, most likely meaning within the spring mini-budget; the tone and wording used strongly indicated the levels set were too agreesive for BEVs and would be relaxed.
The UK in 2020 left the membership of the European union. Industry experts at that time said the last of the UK car manufacturer of vechicles would then rapidly decline. That is happening. So, the UK has little need to tarrif against Chinese EV,s to save a failing car industry. The UK government is being targeted in press to reduce the move to EV,s. Similar the heat pump program is about it seems rolled back to some other far of date
When they need to, depending on how many EV’s are on the road. Currently that’s a small percentage as the average age of a car on UK roads is 8 to 10 years. They’ll need to do something from around 2030, probably pay-per-mile for all cars.
Unfortunately the government seem determined to DISCOURAGE the adoption of EV vehicles from this April - the previous Conservative government had decided to end the free road tax for EVs from this coming April (which is fair enough on its own) but also charged will be an additional “Expensive Car Supplement”, that will add £310 per year to the road tax for five years. The problem with this is that the threshold for what is considered an expensive car hasn’t changed at all in line with inflation since it first came in, so any car over £40,000 list price registered from April 1st will get hit with this additional tax, including EVs. Given the price of new EVs in general then that’s a hell of an addition to EV drivers looking to buy cars after April 1st this year 😮 The Labour government should really look at this, but no sign so far that they are.
The government said they would review VED and the luxury enhancement for EVs in the budget before the start of the new tax year (most likely in the spring mini-budget).
Will they freeze to death while charging? Or spend their hardly earned on kilowatts? Very strange quotation from Tesla, it contradicts everything else that is said permanently about EVs: "The calculation used to bill for Supercharging has been updated. Owners will also be billed for kWhs consumed by the car going toward the HVAC system, battery heater, and other HV loads during the session. Previously, owners were only billed for the energy used to charge the battery during the charging session. Owners may see a noticeable increase in billed kWh if they are using energy-consuming features while charging, e.g., air conditioning, heating etc. This is more likely in extreme climates and could be a 10-25 kWh difference from what a customer experienced previously." A 10-25 kWh difference while charging, seeing Netflix to pass the time and using the heater?
You are not driving free, the solar system you have equivalent in the US is roughly 40,000 US dollars, just got 3 bids, with fuel coming down currently EV is a hard sell. I only drive about 6-8 thousand miles a year, numbers don’t work
I've lived in UK terraced housing and guess what, I couldn't plug my EV in! Oh sorry I forgot - I walked. For those that don't know the UK most terraced housing is near the city centre and you really don't need a car at all.
That's false reporting, sorry. Dealers inflated the numbers in December by refusing to deliver petrol and diesel cars to reduce the penalty imposed by the ZEV mandate. The annual EV market stayed at 19% far from the 24% required by the government. It's a real shame to see news distorted like this.
Its freaky astonishing. Everyone agees that its a government problem, someone else has to fix it. There is no sense of, let me see if i can do something about it.
Not saying EVs do not work etc. BUT - That number is reached by >£4Bn discounts. Thus £4B depression in used car values leases, resales, PCP etc. MFTS, Motor Trade and Finance Houses, LeaseCos, Private Buyers are taking the hit. Amazing the size of the market for vehicles just for MFTS and Dealers Fleet, to Employees, Family and friends etc, Fleet Operators, Lease, Tax Advantaged Employees etc. Never mind the the HUGE Pre Registrations by Dealers etc in in December, February and August - the WORST months - ALL these are on Airfields and Ports in the UK. Look at Autrotrader say - 1 and 2 year old cars with
We need the overnight ac charging out of the lamposts and bollards than many cities in europe have. Also a cap in the charges. May be each council could form there own ev charger company, that could sell for a couple of pence over house rates and the profit can fund expansion. National government, giving they are the one setting targets, should be the one to initially float the cost of the local government set up costs. It shouldn't cost a lot to start out with a standardised 3g conectivity (for payment), bolt on lampost set up. Thr ones in europe are very discreet, therr is some here already. Its just a plug and you use tour own cable. Once demand is growing, so should the profits and thr roll out should snowball. Im sure the rate the councils lay for electricity is very low too. So there shoudl be decent margins if thry sell for say 12-15p pkw. Normal house electricity is around 25p and an ev over night tariff is 7p. So i think 15p is fine. Especially when most evs get beween 3 and 4 miles per kW, so that's sub 5p per mile. That's half the price of the most eco hybrid, which was the Hyundai ioniq hybrid. The pryus isnt as efficient. So i think local government could offer a service needed, held overall government tsrgets and they could generate much needed income, in a tiem when many are on the brink of going bust. It seems a win win win.
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Just leased a 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited and over the holidays took it on a 2000 mile road trip to visit family in Kentucky from MA. Had to wait on a charger once but otherwise was able to find high speed chargers all along the route. Loved it. I’ll never go back to fossil fuel.
Oil is a mineral. It’s used in the production of your EV. It’s in everything, so we will never be free of mineral oil.
@@kevinW826 Do you think the 'mineral' oil in the EVs are burned?? wtf?
@@kevinW826Get over it dude… gas cars are DONE!
@@kevinW826 99% is sufficient enough.
@ there’s more than enough oil in the ground for another hundred years or so for gas and diesel cars. They will still be around then
Solar on my roof covered all of my electrical use for the last year including 10,000 EV miles, and I only had to add washer fluid as maintenance.
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The UK on energy imports topped £100bn for the first time on record, with DeSmog's analysis indicating that the UK spent more than £125.7bn on fossil fuel imports in the year beginning February 2022. By install renewable and changing the vehicles to EV this money stays in the UK.
Installing renewables is why energy imports reached a record high ...to make up for all the times when renewables failed to generate the power as needed.
more fud
@@Leo555ZZZ That's simply not true, those figures are £ not volume, you seem to have forgot that wholesale energy prices skyrocketed due to geopolitics. However, there's obviously been an issue with base load smoothing (as there always has been will FF generation and VERY expensive pica plants), but that is going away due to storage systems.
Do you even know we import electricity from Europe?
The Chinese are building UK power plant once finished UK won't rely on outside power. Also china has upgraded UK tab water in 2023, it now taste like mineral water lol
I'm in the South of England and am on my second Tesla over the past 5 years. Love it, no problems no dramas and saves me money. They are everywhere, not quite as many as Norway but market penetration is increasing here as the word gets around; there is NO problem with daily driving an EV and in fact it's a better experience.
Why a second one? They have not really changed, so why replace?
@@Tensquaremetreworkshop thanks for your concern - my family grew so I needed a larger version so traded up.
@@garethdesborough7960 we test drove a Model 3 and I hated not having proper indicators and the entire experience being touch screen. Not for us.
@ it’s not compulsory; some people find change very challenging. Many people will vow to drive ICE until the day they die and that’s absolutely fine of course. But younger people will adopt the current technology naturally, as young people always have. And eventually very few people will drive at all because self driving cars will be completely reliable, safe, ubiquitous and cheap. At that point road traffic deaths will be dramatically lessened. We move forward :-)
Love your channel, Sam. I drive a Tesla in the UK and charging is faultless if you drive a Tesla. Other infrastructure providers are flaky in operation, faulty and have complex accessibility. I agree it's just not there yet. Many homes are not accessible for home charging and range anxiety are the issues.
Wales - 75% of households have - or could have - off-street parking and EV charging. England - 68% Scotland - 63%. London 44% (Source RAC)
Hi Sam, greetings from Oxford in the U.K. We are transitioning to BEVs here, but we do have inequality that has to be addressed. Land is at a premium here, because as you point out, we are a physically small country. This means that a disproportionately high number of dwellings have no driveway, with cars parked on streets and parking lots for flats. Residents of these dwellings are unable to charge from their own electricity supply, and so would be dependent on public chargers. These are overpriced and still in short supply. This is a massive barrier to BEV adoption.
Reduction of that barrier is completely in the governments hands !
@ Yes, I completely agree, we need direction from government on this - both national and local.
The biggest problem is the price inequality of charging. Those that can home charge paying 7p per kWhr overnight, those that can’t paying between 40p and 80p per kWhr for public charging. This just creates bad feelings towards EV drivers generally.
Agree. What about widespread adoption of wireless charging (like electric toothbrushes)?
@ Induction charging has large efficiency losses, it also requires the two magnetic fields and coils to be very close to each other. The example of an electric toothbrush is a good one, the induction coils are inserted int each other to improve the field interaction. The toothbrush has a hole in its base, the charge stand inserts into that hole. Induction charging is essentially a separable transformer, and as such it can only work on AC.
I’m in the UK and on my second electric car. My second one is a Chinese BYD dolphin. Good cheap car. The media is so anti EV, I don’t know why it’s weird.
Fossil fuel lobbyists, that’s why!
Some of them don't anti EV but anti China or anti Chinese products.
The media is also PRO Israel genocide, which shows just how AMORAL the media is.
@@ISuperTed Yep, they fund MSM
Owned a model 3 for 4 years and love it to bits. Tesla supercharge network was a game changer but generally the supercharging network is also improving.
Media don’t get it. If only I had a £1 for every article written about EV on range anxiety and trying to run the battery flat….
One important factor in the uptake of EV's is that fairly cheap used EV's are now available and are a better choice than an old oil burner
It's called depreciation and it's massive.
@@ohyesitsmepeople aren't paying it though the flood of used is coming from ex lease vehicles
I presume the lease companies got massive discounts, today I can get a decent ev for under £250 a month and my petrol saving would be around £200 a month
I bought EV my wife bought an EV I will never go back to a fuel car we can afford another holiday each year just on the savings. I then bought solars and a battery I did it again I saved a bomb. Keep your fuel cars I love the EV Hyundai and BMW both ranges ok just learn how to use it wisely! Get ZapMap to find chargers they’re everywhere! Europe now drive EV Lorry’s Skania etc.. Ignore the media about EVs a total lie - never had problem!
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Hyundai EV, BMV EV ???? what a joke.
BEVs made up 19.6% of all car sales in 2024 missing the government mandate of 22%. Auto manufacturers are facing fines of up to £980 million unless they can buy or borrow carbon credits from other auto manufacturers such as Tesla. Digging down into the figures is interesting. There was a huge surge in December, taking BEV share up to what appears to be an incredible 31%. However, all is not as it appears, because these were actually pre-registrations that do count towards the government mandate even though they don't have buyers. Since nobody in their right mind buys cars in December, these BEVs that were apparently "sold" in December are now appearing in January adverts. This is front loading 2025 with December 2024 BEVs. 2025 should be interesting indeed, since on top of the front loading, the mandate rises to 28%. Maybe China can come to the rescue, but that spells the end for European car makers.
This is what I'd read. The "sales" are only high because the fines are so great.
It's not the public rushing out to buy EVs!
The old problems of range and charging network remain, but the new twist is horrific depreciation on new EVs.
I agree. The dealers won’t sell you an ice car in December because of the £15 k fine. It’s a spike. Watch January when they have product. No one wants Bev.
Only 1/10 private buyers got a en EV . only 10% that is
Same has been done with ICE cars for decades and still is. I’ve no doubt there was a surge of pre-reg for EV’s, but it’s being blown out of all proportion by the press as usual and parroted back to fit the anti-EV narrative.
@@kalex381Wrong. Those are only people who bought for cash/loan, there are huge numbers of private buyers that are included in ‘fleet’ because that includes lease/PCP.
We need better stats!
Thank you, Sam... and let's get to 500K!
UK power prices are high because they are based on Gas prices.
So that means that we will never have cheap prices in the UK no matter 1/3 is from renewables. We may as well go fully back to gas since that’s the price we are currently paying.
UK power prices are high because they don't have enough coal and nuclear plants , and have spent too much on unreliable wind and solar which then increases the need for gas to fill the gaps.
Now they have to import nuclear power from Europe.
@@Leo555ZZZ that’s a huge own goal…who make all this retarded decisions??? We need stable cheap energy in the Uk to support economic growth - yet we get unreliable expensive energy all while spending billions on vanity renewable projects.
@@kalex381 It's a pricing mechanism, the government could change it.
@@paulc6766 and that’s the point,,,even if one day UK is 100% renewables, a government can find a way to charge extortionate artificial prices. the benefits of renewable are not being passed onto the consumer..
UK here, Sam is right, absolutely no reason why you can't have an EV if you live in the UK, if you can afford one and you can get charging. I've just leased an EV in the end of the year panic sale from VW, it was a bargain, but I have a driveway and access to cheap electricity. But if I had to fill up at 79p per kWh it's more expensive than petrol. Even with a monthly subsription at Ionity it's 44p per kWh. The government need to get the price of electricity under control if they want to see the end of petrol and diesel.
Excellent video Sam. This is the future, and every country will go through this transformation. I am an Aussie EV owner and have the same feeling whenever I drive around: "I am driving for free". Soon everyone will see the light, and the air will be so much cleaner!
Which EV?
As a UK citizen it is good to hear this news. However, there are a lot of people in the UK without offstreet parking. It is not practical to run an EV if you do not have a way to charge it overnight. Banning ICE sales is not enough. They have to provide cheap street charging in areas where people dont have driveways and that is not happening. For some reason all the pro-EV TH-camrs ignore this important fact when discussing EV adoption in the UK. It also applies to some other European countries but they are doing more to remedy it. The attitude of local government in the UK who should be taking action is that EVs are too expensive for people living in flats and terraced housing so no point in providing lamppost charging.
We’ll never have overnight home charging for everybody in the UK, or most other countries. What we need is properly controlled public charging (price capped), more fast chargers and faster EV charging (this is coming).
The big problem is the inequity of pricing at the moment - 7p per kWhr at home overnight vs up to 79p per kWhr public. That’s ridiculous.
We need the overnight ac charging out of the lamposts and bollards than many cities in europe have.
Also a cap in the charges. May be each council could form there own ev charger company, that could sell for a couple of pence over house rates and the profit can fund expansion. National government, giving they are the one setting targets, should be the one to initially float the cost of the local government set up costs.
It shouldn't cost a lot to start out with a standardised 3g conectivity (for payment), bolt on lampost set up. Thr ones in europe are very discreet, therr is some here already.
Its just a plug and you use tour own cable. Once demand is growing, so should the profits and thr roll out should snowball.
Im sure the rate the councils lay for electricity is very low too. So there shoudl be decent margins if thry sell for say 12-15p pkw. Normal house electricity is around 25p and an ev over night tariff is 7p. So i think 15p is fine. Especially when most evs get beween 3 and 4 miles per kW, so that's sub 5p per mile. That's half the price of the most eco hybrid, which was the Hyundai ioniq hybrid. The pryus isnt as efficient.
So i think local government could offer a service needed, held overall government tsrgets and they could generate much needed income, in a tiem when many are on the brink of going bust. It seems a win win win.
Tesco have just rebuilt their Petrol station down the road from me, and they only put one lonely charger in. Seems there is space for more to be put in but why start with one. Also they are always far away with no cover if raining which seems bizarre as you using electricity which don't mix nicely. Just thpught maybe they cannot get enough power to the station hence only one charger.
@ Rain isn’t an issue at all for EV charging, but do agree they should be located just like petrol pumps are. My nearest chargers (I don’t use them) are just like you say - two next to each other, no proper lighting or cover.
@StephenButlerOne sounds good, but in a poor area of old terraced housing, I think how many houses would share each lamp post, I guess at least 30 cars per lamp post. It would work in a wealthier area where only a handful of cars would need lamp post charging, but in densely populated ares with a large number of Ev's, it's just not happening.
hi from the uk i bought a model y two years ago love it i think now we have cheaper electric cars now we will move quicker to all ev
Dream on.
UK manufacturers are being forced to sell BEV's, or they are fined out of existence, so hardly surprising sales are up.
With the introduction of new lower priced EV models and growing price parity between equivalent BEV & ICE models 2025 could well be a breakthrough year in the UK.
The reason for "price parity" is that the manufacturers are losing money on each EV they produce that they have to claw it back by hiking the price on ICE cars. If you look at Autotrader you can see how these EVs have massively depreciated by using AT Tracker
I've got 2.5yrs left on my Petrol hybrid lease and then I'll be making the switch to an ev. Would have been sooner but car prices were just too high, thankfully they are coming down now closer to what I can afford.
it's often quicker on a bicycle in most towns and cities ...
Hi Sam nice one looking forward to the take over on to the uk 🇬🇧 roads bring it on electric cars brilliant. Ps. fantastic information yet again.👍🏻
If you drive a high particulate (diesel) car in London you are charged (fined) £15 a day.
Interesting. Like your channel. Not sure registrations are the same as sales.
Unfortunately most are Fleet sales. Individual / private purchases are down. 1 in 10 sales is only private.
It’s not really a problem. My first 2 EVs have been salary sacrifice cars that come under those numbers. Wouldn’t have had an EV without that benefit. It is a win win because a new EV enters the market and will end up in the used private sales pool within a couple of years…
@@amiddled I was not aware than a salary sacrifice scheme counts under "fleet numbers" although it make sence. Thank you for pointing it out:) In that case I would adjust my comment above as to agree with it as I know many people got an BEV that way which are still private for use :)
@@nedywest71- personal leasing is also counted under fleet (pcp etc.) as its the leasing company that owns the car (until the final payment). Its only cash, bank loan and third-party loans that count as private.
Hi Sam. Greetings from the UK! Thanks for delivering some rare positive news from the world 🎉
I drove from Blackpool to Exeter in 5 hours 15 minutes yesterday. We're a medium sized island and I like it that way!
You can drive up Ireland in a couple hours.
I have nothing against EVs as such. However, I live in a 1st floor flat so will never be able to charge at home, can't charge at work, and my nearest public charger is a good 30 min walk away and very expensive. It will be a long time before it becomes financially viable for me to own one!
Nice summary. UK has some characteristics that make it ideal for EV - it is pretty small and the distances between major cities are also small. We have also installed a lot of onshore and offshore wind and there are many times when there is too much for us to use, so being able to use our road transport fleet to soak up some of that spare electricity is ideal - essentially we have already built much of the energy infra we will need to power our cars! One significant issue is that around 35-40% of households don't have off street parking, although this number is lower for car-owning households, and it will be challenging to make EV's as cost effective for these consumers as they are for those who can charge from their own electricity supply, although it should be possible to make it no more expensive than petrol.
Size does not matter.
Used car prices for EVs have also come down a lot, part of the barrier to adoption has been the inability for people without driveways to charge from home.
most ev are pre register by dealers and sold to fleet buyers because of the uk tax laws, otherwise no private buyers are buying new ev because they are so expensive and new road tax is coming to ev in april!
@@johnnguyen1692 Nope
@@ISuperTed Wrong. Sales to private buyers are down, only fleet sales are up. The reason second hand prices tank is lack of people wanting the inconvenience, mundanity and stupidity of running an ev for a large number of people. For the average joe who has a drive and has little interest in driving- fine. Quite a number of first time buyers sell and go back to ice. They have a long way to go/be developed yet. Don't even get me started on lifetime resources used for an ev build and running it. You are sticking your heads in the sand over looking what it takes to build an ev and run it. Lastly, of relatively less importance [but more important to those who enjoy driving sporty cars], as a driving machine to enjoy [interaction, handling, weight, sound].....they are nowhere, and never will be.
@ Sad that you don’t get it. Fleet sales include PCP and leasing. These are the most popular ways private buyers drive new cars, but because the leasing company owns the car, it’s classed as fleet and not private. As for the rest of your comment, you’re welcome to your views but I disagree with all of them apart from theres a long way to go with EV’s.
@@andywright1634well said.
EVs make so much sense if you have solar panels to provide electricity.
EV batteries are getting much better and mileage.
Condo and apartments should be required to have solar roofs with mini wind turbines.
Sam don’t forget that most manufacturers held back delivery of ICE cars in 2024 to help with the penalties being placed on them for not meeting EV zero emission mandate targets.This why EV sales look better as a percentage overall. Reason for not having more EV’s in UK is the charging infrastructure. It’s terrible unless you have a Tesla. Also you are not driving for free in an EV charged by solar are you? What about the costs to install. This might be a good video to show the break point to free driving?
Sold or registered?
Diesels have been phased out by car makers over the last 5 years, that is why diesel sales are where they are now here and still dominated by petrol and hybrid sales as EV not yet fit for purpose for the masses. Only one in ten private buyers chose an electric vehicle last year (dominant by business sales with salary sacrifice) despite an 'unsustainable' £4.5billion in price cuts offered by car makers. As the technology moves forward it will move higher than the current 19% market share but it’s a way away still and not happening quickly.
I’m in the uk and your right the only problem is when you do the exact journey the charging infrastructure is just not there yet
Yup, biggest issue and we’re a small country with a large population
It never will be.
Really? In what area 😖???
Do you own an EV or are you just parroting media propaganda? I've done loads of round trips over 400 miles and never had any issues with charging or range.
It mostly is now and getting better all the time. The problem is pricing mostly - it’s too expensive.
So many rural places have inadequate charging facilities, and home charging isn't easy when you don;t have a drive and can't park close to your home. Can't use my wife's EV for our regular weekends in the country. So, just bought a petrol-engined car so I can go anywhere.
UK public charging is too expensive. BMW easily met 2024 targets for EV sales.
I think the issue is still cost as most people can’t afford to buy a new car every year but growth is growth it proves that the people who hate ev’s are wrong!
A Dacia Spring EV starts at under £15k brand new. And in any case, in the UK over 90% of all new car "purchases" are nothing of the sort - they are rented or to use the posh word "leased". There much made of the supposed plummeting value of second hand EVs. So you cannot win, when they are new they are "too expensive" and when they are second hand they are "too cheap".
Only the rich would buy a new car every year.
Not to private buyers though.
Who are a very small percentage of new car buyers now. Vast majority lease/PCP who are classed as business (but shouldn’t be). I agree private buyers numbers are small, but there are for ICE too.
A: People in the UK are used to smaller cars. There is limited choice of EV models at the lower end and they are still unaffordable for a lot of people. Watch what happens when Chinese vehicles arrive en masse. There will be a huge jump in the sales figures. B. Legacy have had many years to move to EV's. As Sam said, they are reluctant and make their money from ICE so they've dragged their feet for too long. C. Drop the percentage's for manufacturers and the UK government will just be playing along with legacy carmakers. Set the targets, stick to them and enforce fines. Legacy will still be moaning if they're around in 5ys time.
Vehicles with v2g batteries are massive FREE electricity storage on wheels 23hrs daily and all NIGHT LONG.
Park on a dime selfplug-in to trickle currents any where on the grid.
The grid will identify your vehicle.
The grid will bill your home.
Selfplug-in N play v2g.
Happy days.
No imported petroleum.
No spare parts.
Cheap servicing.
So where did you get the electricity to charge your battery?
@ohyesitsme Australia is in Sahara Desert latitudes.
Too much sunshine, rooftop PV, and 20 million rooftops.
Grid capacity and generation is expensive to upgrade, and rooftop PV is dirt cheap with predictable uptake by building and home owners.
A warehouse nearby saves $10,000 a quarter on grid electricity costs.
Sam, always peaks in December UK because the market chokes supplie and adds incentive to hit there year end 22% or 18% as you say. what’s the year over year december 23 vs 24 to get a better comparison
As a future buyer of a new car, electric is a no brainer , the only herdal is our government
I agree, you certainly would have to have no brains to purchase an EV
From the U.K. and I work in the automotive industry.
The biggest issues here in the U.K. is the infrastructure, we are slowly getting there, the current public charging network is more expensive than running a ICE vehicle. EVs sales, here in the UK are mostly company car sales, the more interesting figures are the in the used market.
Personally I would have one and think I can make it work with my lifestyle. But they are still to expensive for the average working family and half of the household don’t have a driveway so would not be able to charge at home on the cheaper rates.
Where does this "half of households don't have a driveway" statistic come from, the most recent household survey, published 24th Dec, determined that the average is 68% have off street parking. This 50%, or lower, keeps getting stated but there is no authoritative source ever given.
@ just because someone has off street parking, does not mean they would have a area to charge their car.
@@trustinflames1022 - commando lead, granny charger, electrician installed wall or post mounted charger box on a 40a protected extension, or a wall mounted charger box with an 8, 10 or 20 meter charging lead. Many EV owners with driveways, or a garage block, come up with inventive ways to charge their cars.
@GruffSillyGoat I am sure they do, for me I would need to run a cable across the road to the parking spaces, don’t think that’s such a great idea. Or park around the side of the house and run the cable across the path. Not ideal either, but you can now get Kerbo what is the choice I will go with in a few years when I do purchase a EV. I am not knocking EVs, it’s just not as simple as everyone thinks.
@@trustinflames1022 - There's an install near us where the electrician ran an armoured cable in a plastic gully box alongise the a path from the back of the house to front, it looked quite good in the end looking like garden edging along the path.
I believe most EV owners don't assume much of anything, they know it's different for every case. It's just those, not yourself of course, who constantly doom and gloom about EVs or overblow any specifc case as being applicable to the majority just in order to support their personal biases and seek to beguile this as being a majority view (when it very much isn't).
The reason manifactyres want to class SUV is the credits are based on type of vehicles.
Will be interesting to see how many Ford Puma EVs they sell this year as it's fresh to market and the UKs best selling car. The first car they have capable of selling in volume
Fleet sales up. Private sales down. Should have reported this not just taken the overall figure. Car prices in the UK must be some of the highest in the world. To drive real growth in the private sector government incentives will be needed.
People don't have money left after covid/high rates, companies are buying EVs because they save lots of money. Money, money...
@@paulcolu Fleet sales have been going up for a decade, before there were any volume EV sales.
It’s because PCP and leasing is included in fleet.
Why should the Tax payer give incentives to relatively wealth EV buyers
Have the cars been sold, or have they been "pre registered" and warehoused?
If they have been "warehoused" the danger is further down the line when these cars are released, they will cause even greater depreciation for existing ev owners.
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@johnthemagnificent7022 knowing how devious the car industry is, I just don't trust any figures that aren't truely independent..
One of the major drawbacks to EV adoption here in the UK is the supercharging prices which are set astronomically high by the likes of Shell and Esso etc, typically 75 to 85 pence per kilowatt 24/7 whereas Tesla starts at 39 pence. Pricing is ringed but our weak, inexperienced government do nothing to stop this blatant profiteering as they rack in millions in VAT and taxes. Once pricing drops to the same as Europe, around 30 ppkWh then EV adoption will increase rapidly.
He's lying to you, the EVs in UK are mainly being purchased by leas companies and being pre registered to try and get government targets.
There is 2 chargers in my town of 20k people not feasible.
cant charge from street.
street in not near house 8meters away across a footpath
What town is that then?
After watching your shows i now see that there are more EVs on the roads in the UK than you would think.
Have seen just one BYD in the past year.
@@DavidRea2710 you can tell they are EVs without looking at badges.
The very simple reason why E Vs have been slow to take off in the UK is very basic.
1. Price to high in comparison to ICEs
2. Range anxiety
3. New Brand quality untested and unknown
4. Charging infrastructure scale and reliability
That is all rapidly changing.
Chinese brands are begining to have success in the UK. These cars are gaining in reputation for tech and reliability, They are cheap in comparison to other EU brands, UK does not have any tariffs on Chinese brands and 600km range is now very achieveable with battery tech. The UK also has a growing range of reliable EV chargers.
I predict that it is just a matter af 4 or 5 years before the most common newcars in the UK are Chinese pure EVs. MG, BYD, Hyandi, Kia, Tesla, Geely, xpeng and Nio will be just some of the commonly recognised EV brands.
I guess we are in a timeline where this guy is right. Let's subscribe.
I have an ev now since nearly a month. Got it in winter and range drops alot so the tech is not there yet imo. I mean besides loby ing that you’ve mentioned there’re still couple of years for this tech to mature and settle down. There has to be an invention that the batteries shouldn’t get impacted this much 🤷♂️ or we need ranges begins at least from 1000 kms or charging times less than 10mins. Otherwise this ranges and charging times is gonna be a hassle. 😊
The December high sales are skewed by pre registrations.
Although i actully took delivery of a new EV in December
This isn't the case there are more low mileage ICE on sale than BEVs, and it went up recently on Autotrader. There BEV growth is 67,000 and over 382,000 vehicles in total for 2024, even if the automakers/dealers pre-registered a few percent of these the losses involved and impact on 2025 sales would be too great to support.
Rather as published by the industry group the automakers used the flexibilities in the ZEV mandate to convert their overstock of CO2 credits from hybrids/diesels to ZEV credits.
The automakers are concerned about 2025 with this approach as this year they face higher CO2 and ZEV mandate targets. Hence are seeking relaxation of the flexibilities involved.
@GruffSillyGoat Utter nonesense
@ohyesitsme it's true I did take ownership of a new EV In December
@@ohyesitsme - which bit? The points taken are from the S.M.M.T press release, or the cost of depreciation of BEVs with the eventual disposal of an EV and the displacement impact on 2025 sales being more costly than a £15k fine (eventhough no manufacturer according to the UK government analysis will face such penalties due to the ZEV mandate flexibilities), or that autotrader list a higher number of low milage 2024 ICE vehicles (5,421) but a smaller number of EVs (2,114).
Under 50% Brits have off street parking / charging capability so EV uptake will be less than 50% as no one wants to rely on public charges which are often broken or slow
Rubbish, the household figures we're released on the 24th Dec - this states those without access to off-street parking is 32% (25% in Wales, 37% in Scotland).
@GruffSillyGoatthese figures sound great.....in fantasy land😂
@@jdmguy44 - I sure the UK's Office for National Statistics will appreciate your feedback.
The UK get ripped off with the electricity tariffs and public charging (Tesla super chargers being the exception)
I live in Slough town we have the second highest registered electric cars in the UK 91,000 and Stockport is number one, we are only a small town how is that possible. H. Bains
UK does not offer the deals they get in Norway
Just short of 2 million cars registered in the UK in 2024 of which 381,000 were B E V's. Thats about 19% and it's about 3.5% short of target. So the other cars registered were Petrol and Diesel. I don't have the breakdown for these.
Car companies can pay for offsets to make up the balance.
At least 30% of the UK population live in terraced houses or blocks of flats. When the only method of recharging is at a charging station and the cost is a multiple of home electricity and the differential is exacerbated by differential VAT charges it is little wonder that EV take up is slower than might otherwise be expected. Not defending ice but perhaps the Viking can do an cost comparison for ice v BEV when BEV is charged solely via charging stations
I've lived in UK terraced housing and guess what, I couldn't plug my EV in! Oh sorry I forgot - I walked. For those that don't know the UK most terraced housing is near the city centre and you really don't need a car at all.
There are lots of ways to access cheap 2 kW or 7 kW charging, even if you don't have a driveway. Just need some imagination and possibly put up with some inconvenience.
The sales in December exploded in UK because companies proposed huge discounts in order to try to reach the % of EV sales imposed by the UK and avoid the fines. I am not sure how that will be reflected in 2025 but at least it confirms that people are willing to buy EVs if they are decently priced. For people which can charge at home I think EVs will rapidly become a no brainer. For people like me who can't a decent network of fast, no too heavily priced charging station is mandatory. Countries are slashing incentives on EVs, fine they are starting to become affordable, now they should provide incentives for the installation of charging stations.
In other words the automakers got the market wrong, thinking premium vehicles and high priced SUVs were the demand areas, so pricing vehicles too high in order to make extra profits. But the early adopter phase was fading, so had to offer attractive leasing discounts and deals to attract customers. This year they are bringing out more smaller affordable cars that meet the early majority market needs.
So pretty much the norm for when a market shift occurs, as happened in the last when diesels lost favour to petrol.
In the UK in December 2024, the best selling Car was a Tesla Model Y. The second best selling car was a Tesla Model 3. Tesla sold more of just two car models in December than Toyota's entire range. Last year we took a 330 mile each way trip up north to the Scottish Borders just south of Edinburgh in a Tesla Model Y LR via the A1 and it was easy. We stopped twice each way not because the car had to but because we had to. And the latest Model Y dual motor does over 30 miles more than our one does and I am guessing the Juniper when it arrives will go further still. Personally I would like to do the trip again but in the charming little Dacia Spring EV. Yes it might take longer with more stops but the slower you go, the more time to enjoy the sights along the way.
Sam Viking is trying to make us believe the EV Dec sales figures in UK are due to public demand. Wrong. Suppliers had to offload cars to meet government sales targets so as to avoid fines. Only one on ten EV sales in the UK are to private buyers and businesses are purchasing EVs primarily due to tax incentives that aren't available to the general public.
At 66 I still work serving vehicles in my own business… I speak to a lot of people who have no idea about electric cars… I try to educate them a little 9f the subject comes up… Many are just holding on to their cars for now, not wanting to jump into EVs too early in their development as better things are just around the corner… Many wouldn’t buy any new car anyway but I feel the market is pregnant with potential and a time will come soon for gestation to end, the bubble will burst…
What I'm waiting for is a 20 thousand dollar electric car that can get that 350 mile range. It looks like we may be getting close
Ev prices and public charging is a rip off in the Uk and a big turnoff for many people.
Sorry Sam I have it on good authority from the Daily Telegraph, the Mirror, the Sun, the Times that EV sales are falling off a cliff.
😂😂😂 yes I see that everyday - the fossil fuel lobby papers are hilarious.
Stop the subsidies and the mandates and they will fall even faster.
Even though they have pre-registered (not sold) thousands of EV's they still couldn't meet the ZEV mandate requirements. If it wasn't for business users and lease companies they would be a total failure.
@ Sales of EVs are up to 20% of total car sales
@ Same for ICE cars, it’s been going on for years.
Looks like early adopters have bought. But the rest of the market is not enthusiastic. Only half of UK could have home charging. Public charging is still problematic. Forcing a market is a bad policy.
It’s gradually changing as cheaper new EV’s are coming and loads of chargers being installed everywhere. Take your point though on forcing it by mandates etc - personally I don’t think that’s a good idea.
BMW just announced the largest investment in the UK Rolls Royce cars factory since it opened in 2003 at Goodwood.
Its biggest selling car is the all electric Spectre and the expansion is for a full move to electric and to add to its customer car facilities.
BMW had already announced in 2024 its plans for the Mini factory at Cowley, Oxford where it will be investing in the transition to electric by 2027.
Funny Sam never reports stories like this!
How do we charge at home in terrace street? I cannot even park in my street 50% of the time. Super chargers are too expensive to entice most of us who cannot charge at home. Cannot argue with the poison. DPF filter is enough to make you swap to EV.
I've lived in UK terraced housing and guess what, I couldn't plug my EV in! Oh sorry I forgot - I walked. For those that don't know the UK most terraced housing is near the city centre and you really don't need a car at all.
Viking,
What's going on with Tesla in the UK?
Saw an electric car in Noosa the other day its number plate was RIPOIL.
If you accept these figures at face value, then you haven't been looking to buy a heavily discounted pre registered BEV in the uk.
Do you know why? A lot of these new Heat pump companies have bought electric cars and vans. They've also offered them to us for a 3 or 4 year plan on company lease. We get tax benefits.
Look up octopus energy car scheme. You will get your answer. We have to pay £300 a month and after 4 years we give the car back. So you pay £3600 per year for the use of it.
Octopus wanted you to get an ev charger. I live on a campsite lol. They give you a charing card for the charging stations dotted around the country but now you have to wait an hour to charge your van while getting paid.
They prefer you charge it at home in your own time. They do also offer cheaper electricity but that is because octopus is a supplier. Funded by Al Gore £600.000.000.
The company is awful, though, lol. Don't tell them I told you ;)
the numbers of EVs sold in Ireland dropped 23% admittedly our car market is tiny compared to UK r
Chinese made cars have 10% import tax. The Zero Emmission rules do not include hybrids. ZEV target for 2030 is currently 80%.
The main problem in the UK is if you look at Fiat 500 and Mini clubman the electric version is $12,000 higher price than the ICE.
But Citroen e-C3, Renault 5, Vauxhall Frontera, FIA Panda, Dacia Spring, Hyundai Instar aren’t. Some are the same price as Hybrid now. It’s changing and the likes of the Fiat 500 and Mini Clubman are already looking outdated.
What I see as the European problem is that car makers saw Tesla's success and thought "There's a top-dollar market here we didn't know about!" - so they went into a version of that - at top dollar. But mass sales won't work at top dollar, which is what they are now discovering.
Meanwhile, China has developed a range of useful (impressive even) A to B budget EVs. One guess who will win that contest...
They tried to convert ICE car design and methodology to producing expensive EV’s and it was mostly a disaster (look at VW!). Tesla and China do it right - ground up EV’s and manufacturing processes.
What really is happening is the manufacturers were forced to pre-register EV’s at a great loss to avoid fines. Combine this with restrictions on the cars people actuall want/need to buy ICE cars the picture looks great. Dig a little deeper and you will see that sales to private buyers was at an all time low. Without incentives there is no demand for them, private buyers are not interested in them. Next year the first few months will show a truer picture as manufacturers cannot keep making loses on the cars they sell so pre-registering will drop. One look at Germany shows what happens when incentives are removed, EV sales crashed by 69%, once again no one wants them.
Some background about present UK conditions: The Labor Government has gone for a "Tax & Spend" budget. Having driven PHEV and BEV for 12 years and paid no Road Tax, in 3 months time (April 2025) I will be paying £600 a year. £400 of that is a "Luxury Car Tax," payable for the first 5 years on cars that cost over £40,000 new. That is practically 3/4 of all BEVs at a guess.
A second point, with the increase in National Insurance payments on nearly every worker in most companies, prices are going to go UP. So at present, most folks are sitting on their wallets and waiting to see what happens, (that is those that actually have any Money in them). Companies are doing the same, with no incentive to hire more workers.
When the Chinese bring over BEVs that are at price parity with their ICE counterparts, and are priced under the "Luxury Car" limit, better still under £20,000 on-the-road, then things might take off.
On another point, I believe SMMT monthly figures for 2024 show EV sales up EVERY MONTH for the year. They are Down on Diesel and petrol models.
The government in the last budget said they would review the VED and luxury enhancement put in place by the previous govenrment before the start of the next tax year, most likely meaning within the spring mini-budget; the tone and wording used strongly indicated the levels set were too agreesive for BEVs and would be relaxed.
The UK in 2020 left the membership of the European union. Industry experts at that time said the last of the UK car manufacturer of vechicles would then rapidly decline. That is happening. So, the UK has little need to tarrif against Chinese EV,s to save a failing car industry. The UK government is being targeted in press to reduce the move to EV,s. Similar the heat pump program is about it seems rolled back to some other far of date
Wind power just 1.6 % an absolute joke. Most do not sadly realise how dangerous Lithium ion batteries are form 30 year expert firefighter.
At what point does government look for a new tax to compensate for lost fuel excise.
When they need to, depending on how many EV’s are on the road. Currently that’s a small percentage as the average age of a car on UK roads is 8 to 10 years. They’ll need to do something from around 2030, probably pay-per-mile for all cars.
Breaking news: Tencent and Catl on new black lists from the USA.
From June 2026 for Defence Contracts, not EV’s.
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Are you sure there are not all pre reg cars avoiding the fines.
Unfortunately the government seem determined to DISCOURAGE the adoption of EV vehicles from this April - the previous Conservative government had decided to end the free road tax for EVs from this coming April (which is fair enough on its own) but also charged will be an additional “Expensive Car Supplement”, that will add £310 per year to the road tax for five years. The problem with this is that the threshold for what is considered an expensive car hasn’t changed at all in line with inflation since it first came in, so any car over £40,000 list price registered from April 1st will get hit with this additional tax, including EVs. Given the price of new EVs in general then that’s a hell of an addition to EV drivers looking to buy cars after April 1st this year 😮
The Labour government should really look at this, but no sign so far that they are.
The government said they would review VED and the luxury enhancement for EVs in the budget before the start of the new tax year (most likely in the spring mini-budget).
@GruffSillyGoat That's good to hear; seems so counterproductive to leave this as it is. Thanks for the info!
Will they freeze to death while charging? Or spend their hardly earned on kilowatts? Very strange quotation from Tesla, it contradicts everything else that is said permanently about EVs: "The calculation used to bill for Supercharging has been updated. Owners will also be billed for kWhs consumed by the car going toward the HVAC system, battery heater, and other HV loads during the session. Previously, owners were only billed for the energy used to charge the battery during the charging session.
Owners may see a noticeable increase in billed kWh if they are using energy-consuming features while charging, e.g., air conditioning, heating etc. This is more likely in extreme climates and could be a 10-25 kWh difference from what a customer experienced previously."
A 10-25 kWh difference while charging, seeing Netflix to pass the time and using the heater?
SMMT: 'Only one in ten people purchasing a car for their individual private use plumped for pure electric'
UK media is very negative, UK has been very slow in building public charger system.
You are not driving free, the solar system you have equivalent in the US is roughly 40,000 US dollars, just got 3 bids, with fuel coming down currently EV is a hard sell. I only drive about 6-8 thousand miles a year, numbers don’t work
No good to me live in a terrace house street parking cant charge at home thats my sticking point
I've lived in UK terraced housing and guess what, I couldn't plug my EV in! Oh sorry I forgot - I walked. For those that don't know the UK most terraced housing is near the city centre and you really don't need a car at all.
Gridserve have great charging network on the Motorways
They do, but expensive!
That's false reporting, sorry. Dealers inflated the numbers in December by refusing to deliver petrol and diesel cars to reduce the penalty imposed by the ZEV mandate. The annual EV market stayed at 19% far from the 24% required by the government. It's a real shame to see news distorted like this.
The UK EV market is manipulated. The figures do not show the whole truth. The Electric Viking is a a bit naive if he soaks up the UK EV industry PR.
Its freaky astonishing. Everyone agees that its a government problem, someone else has to fix it. There is no sense of, let me see if i can do something about it.
Not saying EVs do not work etc. BUT - That number is reached by >£4Bn discounts. Thus £4B depression in used car values leases, resales, PCP etc. MFTS, Motor Trade and Finance Houses, LeaseCos, Private Buyers are taking the hit. Amazing the size of the market for vehicles just for MFTS and Dealers Fleet, to Employees, Family and friends etc, Fleet Operators, Lease, Tax Advantaged Employees etc. Never mind the the HUGE Pre Registrations by Dealers etc in in December, February and August - the WORST months - ALL these are on Airfields and Ports in the UK. Look at Autrotrader say - 1 and 2 year old cars with
We need the overnight ac charging out of the lamposts and bollards than many cities in europe have.
Also a cap in the charges. May be each council could form there own ev charger company, that could sell for a couple of pence over house rates and the profit can fund expansion. National government, giving they are the one setting targets, should be the one to initially float the cost of the local government set up costs.
It shouldn't cost a lot to start out with a standardised 3g conectivity (for payment), bolt on lampost set up. Thr ones in europe are very discreet, therr is some here already.
Its just a plug and you use tour own cable. Once demand is growing, so should the profits and thr roll out should snowball.
Im sure the rate the councils lay for electricity is very low too. So there shoudl be decent margins if thry sell for say 12-15p pkw. Normal house electricity is around 25p and an ev over night tariff is 7p. So i think 15p is fine. Especially when most evs get beween 3 and 4 miles per kW, so that's sub 5p per mile. That's half the price of the most eco hybrid, which was the Hyundai ioniq hybrid. The pryus isnt as efficient.
So i think local government could offer a service needed, held overall government tsrgets and they could generate much needed income, in a tiem when many are on the brink of going bust. It seems a win win win.