New Neon Dynasty! Isshin vs Xyris vs Kaima vs Prosper EDH / CMDR game play

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  • @WARRIORofSAURON
    @WARRIORofSAURON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As a Prosper player myself I was furious as Dominic put 3 of the 4 exile cards from Share the Spoils at his library so no one could see, what it was or even attempt at casting those

  • @BlueFox571
    @BlueFox571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Might just be me, but Share the Spoils from the Prosper Precon is one of my favorite cards right now.
    On top of synergizing well with Prosper, it helps everyone hit their land drops so that no one gets left behind. It's also super fun to see people make synergies with cards from their opponents' decks.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was easily the break out star for me too. I play it in Zedruu. It's nuts.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    There's also this underrated gem called Reconnaissance, which can be activated at the end of combat step to untap attacking creatures after they've dealt their combat damage, essentially giving them vigilance.

    • @MstrKipper
      @MstrKipper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah Reconnaissance is nuts in Isshin, just picked up my copy. If can also be used to get in the attack triggers of cards like Lannery, and then remove them from combat as needed. Or good synergy with something like Adeline tokens when you might not want to run into a specific opponent, but still want the tokens

    • @salvatorestabile5547
      @salvatorestabile5547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Should be banned or fixed. It wasn't intended to do what it does

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@salvatorestabile5547 Isn't this true for almost every combo out there, though?
      Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact were almost never used the intended way again after labman cards were created.

    • @salvatorestabile5547
      @salvatorestabile5547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarkEinherjar no? Completely different. New cards made older cards have more value but that didn't change how the older cards worked. Reconnaissance was never meant to do what it does but because of rules changes, the functionality of the card is much different.

    • @Qobp
      @Qobp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@salvatorestabile5547many older cards most certainly have changed functionality due to rules changes
      Almost all the "steal your opponents mana" cards in blue dont work anymore thank to the stack, and removal of mana burn (albeit in a small sense) changes ritual effects.
      Not to mention all wishes no longer being able to grab cards from exile, making them useless in EDH

  • @Threadoflength
    @Threadoflength 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I can't imagine what would possess a person to play a Dictate of Kruphix into someones Smothering Tithe. Boggles the mind.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He really wanted those snakes.

    • @zoienjooy
      @zoienjooy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      The moment i saw that a thought to my self "they are all dead now"

    • @salvatorestabile5547
      @salvatorestabile5547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Called King Making

    • @KingYolos101
      @KingYolos101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea at that point I was waiting for a windfall or wheel of some sort…

    • @tremackin
      @tremackin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh, my exact thought. That shit had me confused the entire game

  • @Googleflax
    @Googleflax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Personally, if I were David, I would have used the Scheming Symmetry on either Dom or Johnny with the condition of finding removal for New Shane's stuff since he was already starting to get out of hand. Guaranteeing yourself one turn of immunity against the strongest player at the table really doesn't do much since they can just run you over the turn after that (which is what happened).
    Also, as someone with a Xyris deck, I get that Dom didn't just want to sit back and do nothing after that Smothering Tithe came in, but he really threw caution to the wind and went ham with card draw. I don't think it'd have been an issue if New Shane was down to 1-2 cards in hand (cause then it barely matters how many treasures he has), but he had plenty of cards, access to the cards from Share the Spoils, and an Esper Sentinel to keep drawing him more cards, so he never really ran out of gas.

  • @richardbutobar3920
    @richardbutobar3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    So many Laelia triggers missed from Prosper exiling cards. Treasures missed from playing lands on share the spoils at 6:28). Didn’t do Prosper justice

    • @yavivanov6650
      @yavivanov6650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, channel should be called MTG missplays

  • @AffinityForCommander
    @AffinityForCommander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Woo! Can't wait to see Kaima in action! 😁

  • @kevinkennedy3643
    @kevinkennedy3643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Why would u play a dictate of kruphix into a smothering tithe? He literally could've blown up smothering tithe first one instead of giving the stupid powerful aggressive deck a ton of treasure

    • @dantemalick2872
      @dantemalick2872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His deck requires opponents to draw extra cards to work that commander is a combo group hug deck that can go extremely wide when built right nothing like a wheel putting 15-21 snake tokens into play ect. And at that point the isshin deck was already extremely mana ramped due to the sword of animist going from 20 lands gaining 3 extra treasures a turn doesnt change much

  • @TheTriforceNinja
    @TheTriforceNinja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    No surprise the Isshin deck won, everyone was essentially gifting the player all the draw, mana, and resources they needed to just roll over everyone else.

    • @Googleflax
      @Googleflax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Typically Mardu's two biggest weaknesses are lack of card draw, and lack of ramp, and the other players just gave him an excess of both of those for free.

  • @dcrow9650
    @dcrow9650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Isshin is probably the best cad from Neon Dynasty. Is a freaking beast, and you can build it with so many synergies.

    • @ManjMau
      @ManjMau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe ONE of the best cards. Satoru Umezawa with his blightsteel ninja takes people out in a hurry and there are all kinds of ninjitsu loops you can do with him. Also... Jin-Gitaxias is ridiculous if he can stay in play.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such relaxing background music...

    • @EtienneCitron
      @EtienneCitron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was lowkey expecting to get a massage tbh

  • @drunklog1crecords144
    @drunklog1crecords144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That background music though! Out here making me want to be a better person and pay my taxes lol

  • @EchoEDH
    @EchoEDH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for including xyris in this video

  • @DontStopTheHustle
    @DontStopTheHustle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope we get more Kaima gameplay, it's so sweet!

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'll be sure to ask Johnny to show it off again.

    • @Lootprechaun
      @Lootprechaun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I built One this past weekend and it won a game at my shop. Very unique deck.

  • @nwind9594
    @nwind9594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That music was the perfect thing to wake up to

  • @ivernedit
    @ivernedit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Mako playmat is amazing. I want it

  • @SamuraiDomurai
    @SamuraiDomurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Hello! Dominick here!
    Just wanted to say that I understand I made quite a few missplays. It was my first day playing this deck, and I'm still learning how to not only play the deck, but how to be a good commander player. Having said that, I appreciate all the comments letting me know how I could improve for future games.
    Here's the decklist for anyone that's interested: www.moxfield.com/decks/LYV6vYSz70yKvMqjyVo_PQ
    Thank you again, Andrew, for giving me the opportunity to be on the channel, and hope to be in future videos.

    • @tremackin
      @tremackin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Genuinely curious, did you not know what Smothering Tithe did? Seems like you could of Boseiju'd that earlier and he'd never even of made it to Godo/Helm

    • @SamuraiDomurai
      @SamuraiDomurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@tremackin The answer to that is easy; I did not think to do that lol. But it would've been the best play to do, I admit.

    • @KingYolos101
      @KingYolos101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don’t take the harsh criticism too personally. We all make mistakes whether big or small.
      Unfortunately, yours was caught on camera and it might’ve been a bigger one.

    • @SamuraiDomurai
      @SamuraiDomurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@KingYolos101Thank you! I understand what you're saying, but it's also good for me to know what I could've done differently.
      The advantage of games being on the internet is that I get a lot of input from different perspectives.

  • @brettsutherland8390
    @brettsutherland8390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why would you flash in Dictate of Kruphix in response to a Smothering tithe...

  • @admanios
    @admanios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tell Dom to bring more Kill la Kill playmats, please.

  • @alexsmythe6815
    @alexsmythe6815 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 6:10 why didnt david play profane tutor? it was exiled from laelia so not only could he play it for free since of the 0 casting cost, but he would have gotten a treasure netting a free tutor and a free treasure.

  • @badaryman7139
    @badaryman7139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! That was a complete pubstomp 👌

  • @flintdilella3792
    @flintdilella3792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Uh does Dominic not know what Smothering Tithe is?

  • @CupcakeNB
    @CupcakeNB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video seemed darker than usual? Was there less lighting?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea, we were experimenting with the lighting in the store. They have a bit more control over it, so we turned off the lights directly overhead.

  • @happybrain2674
    @happybrain2674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the music ❤

  • @justblay2125
    @justblay2125 ปีที่แล้ว

    turn 1 esper sentinal and godo in hand!!!!! what a hand

  • @multieyedmyr
    @multieyedmyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    12 mins? Must have been one heck of a fast game!

  • @dizzyspell8197
    @dizzyspell8197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This music is so nice to listen to...

  • @FlockGang410
    @FlockGang410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see more of Isshin

  • @kingfuzzy2
    @kingfuzzy2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope to see kaima do something

  • @obicortes8199
    @obicortes8199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I mistaken or did Isshin only do 20 damage to David, although due to the extra combat from Godo I don't think it would have made a difference, so this is just a sanity check.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm currently deciding between Prosper or Strefan as my Rakdos commander...

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've yet to actually see anyone play Strefan, whether it be in the 99 or the command zone.

    • @happybrain2674
      @happybrain2674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why not make it so both can be your commander?
      i have a friend that plays a deck with all rakdos watermark + 6 commanders so he can randomice it for full rakdos flaivor :D
      you dont need to go that far, but its a good inspiration.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have very different strategies, so I don't think it would work in this case... I could build two different decks to acommodate both, but that would require me to get more copies of the optimized mana base, and that's kinda hard for me at the moment. 🥲

    • @faerie7dragon
      @faerie7dragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Strefan has a defined identity and his precon has good reprint value.
      Prosper is playing Simic and masquerading as a Rakdos player.
      I say the choice is clear, but it depends on what you like more, identity or pure value.

    • @salvatorestabile5547
      @salvatorestabile5547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prosper is boring. No two Prosper decks are different. You play against 1 you literally played against all the thousands of them. No uniqueness to the deck

  • @pietrynglib177
    @pietrynglib177 ปีที่แล้ว

    SWORD OF THE ANIME

  • @Steroid1363
    @Steroid1363 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    music made the vid

  • @Heli0shots
    @Heli0shots 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the decklist first Xyris?

  • @dess8815
    @dess8815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    loved the music not the king making

  • @davidbouchard4494
    @davidbouchard4494 ปีที่แล้ว

    New shane dont know how to make new friends

  • @jonahcoffman3078
    @jonahcoffman3078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is turn one Esper Sentinel so good?

    • @Threadoflength
      @Threadoflength 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because bad players would rather play a Combine Chrysalis into it on turn 2 rather than simply play a land and pass

    • @happybrain2674
      @happybrain2674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      cause carddraw is key. and esper does that pretty good on turn one (even better then rimora cause no upkeep to pay). It also falls of pretty fast, but even then it most likely replaice itself and still cost just one mana xD

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because the turn 2 mana rock/ramp spell is a common move?

    • @DakingofAP
      @DakingofAP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Turns out being an ancestral recall by the time it makes it around table twice is pretty good.

  • @GlobeofBeauty
    @GlobeofBeauty 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So disappointed Shane tried to go infinite with the helm of the host. Personally I don't choose to go infinite in casual edh

  • @alexutley3207
    @alexutley3207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prosper list?

  • @danriemer9724
    @danriemer9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Profane Tutor, or suspend cards in general, should not be run in Prosper. It makes sense in theory because if suspended it would be cast from exile. But the majority of Prosper’s card advantage comes from exiling the top card rather than draw to hand, and you can only suspend cards from your hand.

    • @DontStopTheHustle
      @DontStopTheHustle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can cast cards like profane tutor off of cards like izzet chemister, some versions of prosper are built to take advantage of that.

    • @krotash7740
      @krotash7740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gonna disagree. Sure there are nonbos that occur if you flip one off the top. But you can still draw into them and suspend then, and they are nice to hit when you Cascade off a 1 drop with Wild-Magic Sorceror. I run both Profane Tutor and Sol Talisman in mine, and so far I have been rewarded far more often than punished.

    • @danriemer9724
      @danriemer9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My experience has been the opposite. I draw one card per turn, maybe a couple more off sign in blood and deadly dispute. But I may exile 3-4 per turn off prosper, Chandra, stolen strategy, outpost siege. If I’m twice as likely to find a card by exiling it off the top, and that card can’t be played if found this way, I tend to shy away from them.
      After hitting profane tutor on an exile effect in my own list for the 3rd time, I cut it.

    • @leviponce7730
      @leviponce7730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You dont want too many suspend cards but the upsides of profane tutor getting set up the turn before prosper comes down are so high its worth taking. Plus if you wind up casting a 1 drop in exile with wild magic you know you'll hit your tutor

    • @DontStopTheHustle
      @DontStopTheHustle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danriemer9724 I run more of the cascade effects so my success rate is probably higher because of that. You def have to build around it.

  • @kingfuzzy2
    @kingfuzzy2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oml ( : video ended at friends are opponents you

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know why it keeps doing that! Gah.

    • @kingfuzzy2
      @kingfuzzy2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the video is jsut trying to establish dominance its okay ( :

  • @adamkokus4972
    @adamkokus4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kaima should be know as #NOTBOAR from here on out

  • @gophermonger
    @gophermonger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ugh so many miss plays in this game. The biggest being Isshin shouldn’t have been able to attack Johnny because it was goaded