SMITE: Cernunnos Build & Ability Guide (In-Depth) | Jungle & ADC
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- In-Depth Build and Ability Guide for SMITE's newest hunter god Cernunnos for both jungle and the ADC role. In this tutorial, I'm talking about leveling priority and benefits of the skills as well as various different build paths and options.
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Yesterday I went for a joke build in Joust. I picked Fatalis, Frostbound and put them in a triple crit build with Poison Star.
I swear to god, your winter stance autos go from slow to almost roots xD
ArgetKnight disgusting lol
shhhh
Damn it’s been a year but I’m trying this lol
TheProdigy 177 how did it go?? Haha
YOOO
Duke got a quadra on an ADC, that god is clearly balanced!
BulkyNigg I think it's pretty bloated, only thing it's missing is attack speed than you basically have an upgraded Apoll
I agree that he isnt blanced but getting a quadra with adc isnt that hard/uncommon.
literally read the description buddio
Yeah Cernunnos is gonna be bouncing around the patch notes for a long time I feel, kinda like Susano did.
I honestly think the only things that actually hurt him are nerfing his 1 removing the root from his 2 or changing his ult to where they don't become boars because even if it does 0 damage if you hit a 5 man ult that's either a lot of counter ults for immunity or a lot of beads down if they have any hope of winning the team fight
dyndo101You heard it here first folks! Chaac OP! Read all about it!
dyndo101 well its basicly the same as Chaac ult + disarm
Excellent guide Duke! I love the flexibility this god offers in terms of playstyle and item builds. Definitely picking this guy up when he releases on console. :D
this was a great guide, I'm definitely looking forward to Cernonnus when he comes to console next week
SurefireDAMEON three weeks of over poweredness
Three things:1) currently his summer heat will proc brawlers beat stick on hit, but will not proc bluestone or other on-hit ability effects. Not sure if this is intended or if this will stay. Something to keep in mind if you care.2) I find his summer stance to be useful early, and his protection reduction and slow useful late game, I don't think the bonus damage is as useful late game.3) I disagree on how to level his abilities. I think if you play him in jungle then leveling his 2 first is fine; I think if you play him in lane then leveling his 1 is better. In lane, the boxing advantage of the 1 is very nice, you get the increased lifesteal when you need it and don't have to necessarily build it in an item, and his 2 clears quite well with one or two points in it.
My current favorite build for him is bluestone -> warrior tabi -> ichvail -> hastened fatalis -> qin's sais -> executioner (or titans bane for structure push) -> crusher -> brawlers beat stick or crit item for selling ichvail, of course changing order depending on who I'm up against. Not that I think crit is bad, I just like penetration/qin's builds, and I find it works.
Just my 2 cents, still a good video Duke :)
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thank u for all ur amazing and in depth videos everyday.
Imo, Cernunnos is one of the better hunters for crit builds since he's essentially got a 7th item in his 1. And, the main downsides for crit are that it eats up a lot of item slots compared to a power/pen/qins/unicorn build and has a bit of a rougher power curve than qin's. So, those issues for crit builds can really be smoothed out since the 1 can compensate for a lack of pen or lifesteal, and wind demon can provide the attack speed cerny lacks. For example, one could go DT->Boots->Ichival->Wind Demon->2nd Crit item(there are valid reasons for any crit item in this slot, poison star for utility, DB to kill fools, rage because it's cheap) and still have access to a solid amount of shred & lifesteal via the 1 in addition to attack speed and crit chance from the build. Or, you could opt for a trans start to take advantage of his scaling into ich to outbox your opponent, then lay down trans fueled crits with the 1 bonus to scaling.
And here it is just like you said, just a thought maybe add a full build lineup at the end of videos while you are going over your playstyle overview? Like all the items as it would be in the build box. Furthermore I'm surprised you didn't make mention of Asi at all. Pen AS and lifesteal for fairly cheap I feel it has good synergy. Either way great content as always and keep it up Duke.
personally I prefer titans over exe for the tower push. also, I prefer asi over bloodforge for the pen and boxing potential (and late game the attack speed will be nice).
I've done some testing in jungle practice and it seems to me he is the most efficient with Trans and Titan's as core items, with the rest of the slots somewhat situational. The crits on him just don't hit as hard as they do on other hunters, so I really dislike the crit build even though it works pretty well, too.
I know what you are thinking, he does not really need that much mana. Yes, but Trans gives the second most power in the game on a single item (66 fully stacked), second only to Bloodforge (75). The mana pool is just gravy and you will at least know you'll never be in a situation where you do not have mana for your full kit.
I generally like to get Warrior Tabi as well. So what are the other 3 items? Well, I've found out that Qin's (and Obow to a lesser extent) synergises well with his summer stance.
One lifesteal item can be good, but I don't think it is mandatory. I will have to further test this, but it seems to me the sustain from his 1 is already very high (higher than a single lifesteal item that other hunters usually like to get). I generally get Asi here, as Devo's would not really work as well, because of Trans start. Also, did not test BF, but given the huge amount of power it gives, it would synergize well with his build.
I have not played much with Cernunnos and Fatalis, even though I love the item for other gods.
@dukesloth Skadi makes perfect use of The Crusher as well! I build Trans, Warrior Tabi, Asi, Crusher, Jotuns, Titans
Feel weird to see myself in a video ^^
I was the hou yi
Quite suprised trans wasn't even mention. Great scaling, uses many abilities so must be mana hungry and it will amplify his basics by a lot as well. Any thoughts?
His 1 is totally free, he doesn´t need that much mana at all. The raw power still good, since all his skills have good scalings, even his 1 and passive.
To those who look at comments still, Runeforge Hammer will equil if not out damage in winter form the summer form (advice from Diamond Diamond Cernunnos)
one interesting thing is that his summer heat damage and passive both proc off on towers making him very strong at pushing towers down. Personally this kinda tips it a little more to Titans Bane for me but again it's really personal choice.
Jungle build I'm looking at js Bumbas Bluestone, Warrior Tabi, Trans, Hastened, Quins, Titans Bane, Ody Bow. still working on the order and needs a little testing but that's the starting point.
Summer damage doesn't work against towers (or minions). At least it didn't when I played him. I have to try to push towers with the passive, though, sounds interesting.
As a hunter, Cernunnos is the opposite of most, you want to face press against things to get more damage, be that GF, buffs, towers or even players :P
none of his 1s affects proc on towers
Elizabeth Ptrevenkoy well the passive does which does help shredding towers
"just kill them! [...] I hope this gives you more inside and understanding [...]"
I believe Frostbound would also be a viable option if you were feeling more inclined to helping your team chase, instead of solo chase...though it works for solo chase as well. I'm on console, so idk if the extra health would help him or not. Also, could he use rune forged? I hate what they did to that item.
I just went with my usual build.
Warrior tabi, executioners, asi, wind demon, deathbringer and poison star
So which other gods would you recommend The Crusher for? I've only used it on Cupid (the only ability-based hunter I own/feel competent on), and I've been ok thus far. Are there any ability-focused hunters you would not want this for?
Duke got a quadra on an ADC, that god is clearly balanced!
My primary problem with Cernunnos is he feels like he's a better Medusa. Like Medusa, his 1 is his steroid, only it has 4 powerful AA steroids in 1 ability for 0 Mana cost. Cernunnos's Bramble Blast is also too much like Release Medusa's Acid Spray. It has a 55 unit cast-range and a huge area of splash damage, giving him safe, effective poke and zoning. And unlike Medusa, Cernunnos' hard, non-ult CC is on his poke, not his escape. So Cernunnos is much safer. And while Medusa's ult deals more damage, it only Slows if you don't look directly at her, while Cernunnos can get the full effect of his ult so long as you're in the radius, at rank 1.
Since you make relatively, in depth, random, smite stuff... You should make a video of when you should back to fountain (I am going if you have this video yet...)
Would you guys recommend the crusher on neith and Chiron. I feel the CDR would be really helpful on them
Crusher doesn't give CDR
its passive does
Dev gauntlet,bloodforge,ninja,wind demon,poison star,deathbringer,fatalis.I ussually go with a mix of these.If u have dev and blood you will never die(unless they have a high power mage who ults u in the face).
I would highly recommend against this build. Bad power/price curve and an overload of LS that doesn't benefit you much when you get CCed/bursted plus a completely lack of % pen or early flat pen for that matter.
Well i add pen like titans bane or something like that.Wind demon and fatalis also give u pen.I tried this thing out and belive it or not it works.Also executioner wich i always forget,
Jeez I've never seen one God who works with so many builds, though it is the meta that allows a lot of hunter builds so... Maybe it isn't that crazy, besides the fact that he's op
Jetfire 232 When Nike was released you could throw literally anything on her and win lol
let me guess, you don't wanna give up all those rapes xD
TheALL14 excuse me, but when I do 16000 more damage than everyone else with a nu wa something is wrong
Bloodforge is awesome on this god.
Idk what it is but i just can't seem to get the hang of him or morrigan. it's so frustrating because i wanna do well and here are all these people that are like "oh this god is so easy" *sigh* it's just so frustrating
Ahoy
Duke got a quadra on an ADC, this god is clearly balanced...
EmethMatthew Nice original comment
thebushcraftdude if you actually read entire descriptions don't speak to me
Nice original response to a convention in all Duke's videos. But hey, more comments on his videos improves the algorithm so rage away, rage-baby!
i just love your guides. Have you done one on Morrigan? I like her enough but I just don't know what to do :c and this guide is super helpful for me. Thank you for what you do.
Alice Grey
I can't get the hang of her either. I still practice tho
Alice Grey i have her diamond but it's hard to explain u can ask me and I can try too
I think that Transcendce is god on him as well due to the power scaling
you could also use him as a support as he has a high cc kit
and build frostbound first
Brad Richard what are you? gay?
Yes
I think they need to increase his mana cost, when playing him i feel like i never got to a point where i need to be careful about my mp usage. they should remove most, or all damage on his 3 ( maybe add a knock up, but he would be more broken then :D ) and maybe increase his ult's delay to 1.5-2 secs, most of the time, even when someone isn't slowed, stunned and so on, its hard for them to get out of it
Dire Wolf I'm for removing 50%damage of all dashes that don't stop at the 1st god. and those that do stop at the first remove 25%
Why not double bow, ichival and silverbranch? Double pen 60 power and a ton of attack speed. in the Jungle that is a very early game power spike for a snowball god.
Anthony Jason You're purting your build behind by getting 2 early game items that equal 3400 gold that you're gonna sell later on, not including starters, and frankly lose efficiency fairly quickly in the power stealing department. 30 physical power and 45 magical power stops meaning very much by 3 items in, which is where you're gonna be by the time you finish both bows. The attack speed is nice, but you might as well go exec/fatalis/qins instead for that.
#BuffCernunnos
You know a god is broken when nearly every single power item doesn't hurt his performance. If you use a Susanoo build on him, he'll do wonders. Awilix build? Got it. Ixbalanque build? Spot on. Hell, if you build those tanky jg builds he'll do great.
How would you nerf/balance/fix him?
Reduce everything on his 1 by 5% and reduce the damage on bramble bullshit, make his dash shorter, make his ultimate channel time about 4 seconds so you are able to dodge it if you're fast enough, but make the polymorph on it last longer if it hits.
I went 11-0-7 once
It was insane
Cern is ridiculous
Ninja tabi-Ichival-Executioner-Autumn buff
Ichival power steal, Executioner protection shredding and autumn buff protection shredding it is crazy.
I spent 5 hours researching every item to figure out the best build on him.
Overall build rather :p
Legokid DOOD NO WAY 11-0 THATS CRAZY
Man, I did a fucking bruiser build with him and I was still op.
does he work solo?
Most broken since susano still not as broken as susano was for initial release
what about bellona, she was the most op release god ever.
Yo what's up duke
one question, to describe the effect of Cernunnos ult, wouldn't it be easier to say "you get polimorphed" than "you get silence, can't attack and you get transformed into a pig"?
shinigami1291 Unfortunately, people are retarded.
His passive works on towers
When is he going to come to console?!? Haven't found any information yet.
Scotty LaDi Tuesday next week
Michael Gutierrez Thank you, kind sir!
Even number Patches come out on console a week after after they come out on PC
when does he come out on console?
eazypal I believe THIS Tuesday.
he is op
his 3: Horn Charge is not an escape. it's a chase
Duke got a quadra on an ADC, that god is clearly balanced
Crusher isn't a good idea. There's a reason nobody builds crusher in the SPL, there's better DPS options than crusher for hunters. At least in carry its not good just a fun item
Presentacion Rivera Idk I feel like Crusher is better than people think but I do prefer it on assassins or Warriors just because it's kind of awkward to fit in hunter builds
Crusher ur not bad but there are better alternatives for hunters other than crusher. That's why u don't see many people use it on Ullr even tho it sounds perfect for him
hi
Honestly assassins r only good in conquest for the most pArt
uke got a quadra on an ADC, that god is clearly balanced!
You think his dmg is big? Try to counter him with Kuzenbo. Then he's strong.... Kappa.
No Kappa, hide of the nemean lion and thorns work really well against him. I know he has a 40% lifesteal (with items) but still, it works. When I played him against kuzenbo, it was really annoying.
I did 46k dmg as Kuzenbo vs. him on 3v3. I doubled his dmg.
notification squad
actually i just happened upon it in my sub feed less than a minute after it was uploaded
Cernunnos more like Canceros
Hastend, ninja, asi, qins, bloodforge, o bow= 140~ power, 25 pen, 50 lifesteal (without the 1) 2.43 attack speed. It melts
I think if they made Cernunnos' auto attacks not ranged he'd be a lot more balanced. And maybe lesson the slow on the 2, or take out the root. Also l think if they made you immune to additional CC while in the AoE it'd be a lot more balanced aswell.
step 1: build whatever since the god is over performing.
Step 2: profit until the inevitable nerf.
It might be nice if his 2 only exploded if it hit a god, thus punishing bad aim but otherwise not being changed aside from maybe some #s
Might also be nice to make his 1 less fluid so you can't use the season you want super fast, like a 1 sec cooldown
no keep the 1 the same reduce damage on 2 and reduce ult damage
I think they should just nerf hunters in general they are currently way too strong.
Aborted fetus They're in a good spot lol. Assassins are running the game right now really hard in my honest opinion. My biggest complaint is the rituals. Only thing people hate fighting against is Fatalis.
Aborted fetus fatalis, wind demon, poison star, qins sais, ichaivel, silverbranch bow, asi, etc. I'm surprised hirez took away the katana tree from hunters. You'd see heart seeker on every adc
MAGWAII Well in my opinions hunters are a bit over powered because they have the same scaling as an assassin on their basics even though they have range; not only that most hunters have steroids in their kit. Why have a mage that hit 800 per ability when you have a hunter hitting 600 per basic. Also in other game modes beside conquest they are a nightmare to fight especially in duel.
Well you are talking late game. How much do hunters hit early? Like 50 dude. Mages on the other hand will hit a lot harder early to mid game because the point of a hunter is to carry the damage late in the game. for like the last 10 minutes of most games.
Aborted fetus Respectively hunters are late game gods so having good scaling isn't bad. Plus hunters don't build items for their abilities, unlike assassins they sacrifice power for attack speed with small exceptions. Honestly I think hunters should be rivals with mages but right now it's assassins. Hunter items are all near quite equal that is why you will see so many hybrid builds for play-style/situation. Mages are the bread and butter of hey I'm online! and really show when they do damage at what point of the game than any other class. (Usually mid game) keep in mind hunters won't be hitting you for 600 per auto. Unless they pray for R.N.G(J)ESUS with a crit build on a squishy 30 minutes into the game. In turn they do less to tanks and towers respectively and won't have fatalis probably. If you dislike hunters than I recommend playing assassins. If a Hun Batz blinks in on a Hunter even late game there are plenty of times a Hun Batz will out damage the Hunter even with a defense item in that situation especially with a crit. And assassins are near impossible to escape from any role in the game except warriors. I am in D2 duel. I can tell you yes hunters are strong. But a few mages are also very strong. I am a Hunter main and I have honestly been turning to assassins for duels. Try assassins like Ne Zha, Hun Batz, Kali, Loki, Susano, and Serqet. I've taken down hunters with Quite ease with the burst and mages. Skadi and AMC are debately the stronger but they put a lot between you both. You kinda ignore it if you have the movement and burst from assassins. Just practice, it gets frustrating. (:
Why do you pronounce "because" so strange?
I don't see ANY reason to nerf him e.e
He is bloated
1st
Duke got a quadra on an ADC, that god is clearly balanced!
Duke got a quadra on an ADC, that god is clearly balanced!
Duke got a quadra on an ADC, that god is clearly balanced!