Thanks for the great information. It was the confirmation I needed for what my gut was telling me (to stay away from LED). Part of my job working on semi trucks is to repair and replace windshields. I just ordered a light from Ultra Bond, hopefully now, during the winter, I won't have to replace so much glass for a small rock chip.
It's interesting. Something I've noticed in "other" windshield repair groups. That is, that when any other company puts up information about their equipment with no test to back it up everybody accepts it as if it's the gospel truth.... Yet when Rich puts up test results that are bonifife, legitimate, scientific test results done to Rolags and insurance company standards, many people scoff at it. Someone commented that this test would be more credible if someone else did it. The truth is that their test would be more credible if they let Rich do it.
While I can appreciate your passion for the science of windshield repair, the information in this video is inaccurate in regards to the ProCur+. I'm sure you aren't intentionally trying to mislead anybody, so I figured I'd help out a bit! The ProCur+ doesn't move around on a repair, and the leds all point to the middle. To get an accurate reading, you would have to sit your sensor in the middle and leave it still, since that's the intensity the repair would be receiving. Next up, curing time - It is on a 1 minute timer and users are instructed to cure for the duration of the timer - once for the resin and a second time for the pit filler. That's 2 minutes of cure time per repair when using the ProCur+. Nobody is taking it off the repair before the light stops blinking; That would be silly. Finally, the pricing you gave is high by $100. We sell the ProCur+ for $299, NOT $399. Using accurate information and having an independent lab do your testing would add a ton of credibility to what you are trying to do here.
Hi Derek, thank you for your comments. Yes I am aware of the 1 minute timer (I was going of their current website) and I did use the timer in the 3-point bend test. Actually I just checked the video and it was over two minutes cure time total. On the angle of the LEDs when you place the reader in the middle and angle it toward the LEDs you get a different reading from one side to the other. If you would like to give me your email I will video and send you a link. Placing it in the center and holding it there would be same as placing on the fluorescent bulb and not moving it. I also switched to an Ultra Bond tool and using the same resin got a score of 89% new glass strength with the fluorescent and 57% with the Procure+ - a 32 point difference. As far as Independent labs - I use them for my own products for court. But to be able to test and confirm what I sell it is much more efficient to have my own lab.Yes I did see that the current price is $299. Personally I would say the Eco Vac tool was a better tool and cured with the sun or a flourescent is a safer repair. Thanks again for you comments.
@@chipdr911 I have tested UV flashlights with the UV meter but not the 3-point bend. With multiple bulbs and with one bulb when at an angle such as when curing under pressure the UV energy is jumping. With one bulb the energy can be uniform but only when it is placed straight down on top of the glass such as can be done when curing the pit. Whether the intensity is too high has to be tested with the 3-point bend. I will do that and make a second video. Does the Ignite have one bulb or multiple bulbs? Is there a manufacturer's name on the light?
I have two UV flashlights, one from Delta Kits and the other from GlasWeld. Don't know the brand name for each just the name that the companies gave them. They both have single light.
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Thanks for the great information. It was the confirmation I needed for what my gut was telling me (to stay away from LED). Part of my job working on semi trucks is to repair and replace windshields. I just ordered a light from Ultra Bond, hopefully now, during the winter, I won't have to replace so much glass for a small rock chip.
No doubt about it this is one of the missing links in quality windshield repairs that nobody talks about
Thanks Doug
Thank you for posting
You're welcome
good job rich. if you could leave the text part on the screen longer, that would give me time to read it. thanks
Thanks Tim - Yes I agree. I tried to with YouCut video editor - have not figured that out yet.
It's interesting. Something I've noticed in "other" windshield repair groups. That is, that when any other company puts up information about their equipment with no test to back it up everybody accepts it as if it's the gospel truth.... Yet when Rich puts up test results that are bonifife, legitimate, scientific test results done to Rolags and insurance company standards, many people scoff at it. Someone commented that this test would be more credible if someone else did it. The truth is that their test would be more credible if they let Rich do it.
I want to contact you, the owner of the page, if possible.
Hello, I am the owner of Ultra Bond and that is me in the video. My email is rich@ultrabond.com
While I can appreciate your passion for the science of windshield repair, the information in this video is inaccurate in regards to the ProCur+. I'm sure you aren't intentionally trying to mislead anybody, so I figured I'd help out a bit! The ProCur+ doesn't move around on a repair, and the leds all point to the middle. To get an accurate reading, you would have to sit your sensor in the middle and leave it still, since that's the intensity the repair would be receiving. Next up, curing time - It is on a 1 minute timer and users are instructed to cure for the duration of the timer - once for the resin and a second time for the pit filler. That's 2 minutes of cure time per repair when using the ProCur+. Nobody is taking it off the repair before the light stops blinking; That would be silly. Finally, the pricing you gave is high by $100. We sell the ProCur+ for $299, NOT $399. Using accurate information and having an independent lab do your testing would add a ton of credibility to what you are trying to do here.
Hi Derek, thank you for your comments. Yes I am aware of the 1 minute timer (I was going of their current website) and I did use the timer in the 3-point bend test. Actually I just checked the video and it was over two minutes cure time total. On the angle of the LEDs when you place the reader in the middle and angle it toward the LEDs you get a different reading from one side to the other. If you would like to give me your email I will video and send you a link. Placing it in the center and holding it there would be same as placing on the fluorescent bulb and not moving it. I also switched to an Ultra Bond tool and using the same resin got a score of 89% new glass strength with the fluorescent and 57% with the Procure+ - a 32 point difference. As far as Independent labs - I use them for my own products for court. But to be able to test and confirm what I sell it is much more efficient to have my own lab.Yes I did see that the current price is $299. Personally I would say the Eco Vac tool was a better tool and cured with the sun or a flourescent is a safer repair. Thanks again for you comments.
Richard's lab test are about as credible as you're going to get.
Olá me, tenho uma loja no Brasil existe possibilidade de adquirir seus produtos?
Sim - pode encomendar na nossa loja online
@@UltraBondWindshieldRepair eu 2 modelo do seu trabalho muito boa as ferramentas, já tentei comprar mas foi feito o estorno na minha compra
@@sergioponte6870 e-mail Liberty em info@ultrabond.com na segunda-feira
@@UltraBondWindshieldRepair Olá
Separei alguns itens na cestinha, tem algum chat para tirar dúvidas por lá?
Interesting
Thank you
@@UltraBondWindshieldRepair Richard have you tested the UV output of the hand held flashlights such as the Ignite from Delta Kits?
@@chipdr911 I have tested UV flashlights with the UV meter but not the 3-point bend. With multiple bulbs and with one bulb when at an angle such as when curing under pressure the UV energy is jumping. With one bulb the energy can be uniform but only when it is placed straight down on top of the glass such as can be done when curing the pit. Whether the intensity is too high has to be tested with the 3-point bend. I will do that and make a second video. Does the Ignite have one bulb or multiple bulbs? Is there a manufacturer's name on the light?
I have two UV flashlights, one from Delta Kits and the other from GlasWeld. Don't know the brand name for each just the name that the companies gave them. They both have single light.
@@chipdr911 Thank you, I have single bulb flashlights and will do a test.