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✨ Miele Dishwasher intake/Drain Light - Fill Valve - Easy DIY Fix ✨
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- ✨ Miele Dishwasher intake/Drain Light - Fill Valve - Easy DIY Fix ✨
This Video teaches step-by-step how to Easily replace the commonly failed Miele fill valve with a 25.00 fill valve. Ive done hundreds of these repairs and found that the new fill vslve solves the intake/drain light and the problem of too much water and not enough water as well as the F11 error and F70 error.
The fill valve replacement from Miele is $220.00 for the part and $200.00 for the labor.
Do it yourself with this generic fill valve and you’ll only spend $25.00 for the part.
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Recently I had to fix a Miele dishwasher and found this excellent video. I was able to replace the faulty valve successfully, however, with some modifications. I felt not protecting the electrical terminals inside a hard case was unsafe. My solution was using a different water inlet valve: DD62-00084A (for Samsung Dishwasher). The inlet and outlet of this valve are aligned along a straight line (same as Miele’s original valve). Modifications were necessary for fitting the new valve inside the original plastic case, and they included: 1) trimming down (using grinder + cut off disk) the metal plate of the new valve; 2) cutting off the “neck” of the original plastic case at the “water supply” end and slightly enlarging (elongateing) the opening; 3) shaving off some interior parts of the plastic case so that the new valve could fit inside the case. (Note: this method works better if the inlet hose is not shortened)
Nicely done 👍😊
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel Hi Sott, I would be more than happy to provide you with some photos of my works in progress if you think they may be helpful to others.
Thank you for posting this! You're instructions were spot on. My dishwasher works perfectly thanks to your help. Everyone here owes you a debt of gratitude!
Thank you for providing an easy-to-follow procedure to fix this annoying valve failure that happens every so often in these machines!
Nice job Zach😊👍
Thank you very much for the video. It's extremely hard to get Miele parts and they're very expensive. It works as per your instructions.
This is a really great fix! I've already replaced one hose assy. on our older Miele. So - I got all my tools out and undid the valve assy., looked into the inlet and... the filter basket had junk in it!! Obviously this reduced in-flow. Cleaned and reinstalled. Code is gone. Also, I recall the instructions on the new hose was to mount the solenoid VERTICALLY. A Miele rep said this was important for longevity. So, thanks, dude! This saved me hundreds.
NIce job, thank you
Thanks so much Scott. This would have been the 3rd one of those $250 replacement assemblies I have bought and replaced. $40 and not having to pull out the dishwasher = Awesome! Thanks!
Thanks Jason, I bet this one will last twice as long.
Hi Scott, Your video saved us so much. Today my son and I repaired our Miele dishwasher inlet/drain error in 1:30 hours at $ 45.00. Thank you so much. We had a plumber repair the same error in Dec 2017 for $478.00. Thank you.
I love it😊😊😊
So I ordered the valve from Amazon for $30. Couldn’t get the part you listed but went to the large improvement store and got Everbilt 3/8 in mip x 3/8 in fip street elbow (LFA-78265) and a 3/8 in od x 3/8 in mip adaptor (LFA-123). Followed the video and bingo! Thank you for also saving marriages!!!
That is excellent News😊😊😊
Thanks for the information on installing the generic water valve, it was easy and saved me hundreds of dollars.
Thanks so much Scott. I followed your instructions and it seems everything works now. Before I had the "Open water intake supply" (or something like that) fault. Wasn't sure this would fix it because I figured there could be lots of things that could lead to this fault. But I also felt this was the most likely culprit. Got the valve on Amazon because I could return it if this wasn't the problem. Other parts were from Home Depot. You saved me hundreds of dollars!
+David's Red Tesla
Good job David.
Sure is a good feeling to fix it yourself
ha, 10 years! I just might try it, I replaced the 200 dollar part 3 years ago. It's out again. I love these kinds of fixes. I fixed my ice-maker with a 15 dollar pump instead of a GE 350 dollar pump and it lasted for 10 years instead of 2 years.
Thank you Scott! Worked on my 25 year old Miele! Still whisper quiet and runs like a champ. Merry Christmas!
Nice job Tom👍😊
Absolutely Amazing Video!!
Was about at wit’s end & ready to toss my beloved Miele dishwasher; when I gave this a try- worked like a charm! I have little to no experience with plumbing or electrical; yet was able to solve the issue for $45 thanks to this very informative and helpful tutorial.
I wish Miele had a different code for faults at intake & faults at drain- it would make finding the issue faster! To rule out a drain issue, I reset the fault light, poured pitchers of water into the dish washer, started it up, could hear it draining normally, then the fault light came back on- so I narrowed it down to a fill issue & this seemed to be the culprit part.
Currently, the link provided in the video for the elbow adapter was sold out. At my local hardware store- I figured out the adapter needed is 3/8” pipe to 3/8” compression. Took me a minute to realize those are different measurements.
Infinite gratitude for providing me with the skills to maintain my Miele!
Great job Jason😊😊😊
Thank you, different model, but followed where the intake valve was and cleaned all around it, cleaned the filter, there was a jar wrapper around it. Thank you great help. X
Hey Scott. Dropping a quick line to thank you for your video. I just finished the procedure and so far it is working as usual. I have a Miele G892 SCU PLUS; it's about 13 years old. For those of you asking if the GE valve will work for your particular model, just check that the voltage (V) and Hz match the original valve. The GE Valve that Scott specified in the video matched the Miele Valve specs: 110-120V 60Hz. I ended up spending $83 bucks (water valve, 3/4 stainless water hose, elbow, electrical tape).
I had called Miele Service and they quoted me the following:
$155 for the diagnostic (a 5-7 day wait time for someone to show up)
$ 90/hr for labor
$ 110 for the entire hose with the valve
+Edgar Jimenez
Thanks Edgar😀👍
Also a G892 here, Can either of you pls share the link to the GE part? The current link took me to a Fridgedaire part.
Scott: I installed the valve from the link you provided, after watching this video. Worked perfectly for my 19 year old Miele G858 SCVi PLUS. The compression fitting elbow that came with the valve didn't work in my situation, since I had to connect to a 3/4" male garden hose fitting that the plumber had soldered onto a shut off valve for the dishwasher. But my local hardware store had the fittings I needed. So, for $45 for the valve + fittings I saved over $500, based on my last valve replacement in 2013. THANKS!!
Wow, nice job😊👍
Nicely Done😊😊😊
Scott your an absolute blessing fixed it today saved heaps thank you so much!
Very impressive David👍😊
This video saved me buying a new dishwasher! Thanks so much for posting.
Once I figured out that the value was the actual issue it was $30 total in parts + < 30 min install time. It now works like a charm.
I did this and it worked great. Not only is it much cheaper, $50 compared to about $400 - $500 for a service call, but fast. No scheduling the service call. I bought my valve at a local appliance parts store and had the job done within 24 hours of the failure. This is important because I don't think life as we know it is possible without a working dishwasher! Make sure you cut the hose back as Scott mentions. I skipped this step but then found out that the wires won't reach the connectors. Had to take the hose back off, which is difficult when the valve is already installed in the tight space under the cabinet. Scott mounted his by hanging it from the soft copper water pipe. Mine had been hooked up with a hose. So I replaced the hose with a pipe -- simple change that solves the mounting problem.
+mabanaheights
Nice Job,
Sure saves a lot of money👍
+Scottthefixitguy I'm so glad it's working again👍
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Thank you so much for posting this. I just replaced the valve on my dishwasher and your video gave me the push and encouragement I needed to do it myself. Very proud of myself!
+Phyllis Wolf
Thanks Phylllis,
Isn't that a great feeling?
Hi Scott, I recently was introduced to to this dishwasher bye friends of mine bought a house with one of these in it. it also had intake / drain light on being handy that I am I try to fix it first off I remove the filter that's in the end of the water valve and cleaned it it was dirty it worked for a while. Then stopped working altogether same intake drain light on. Contacted Miele which was has fantastic customer service they talk to me a handyman on a thirteen-year-old machine and we determined there was no water coming in by the codes that they help me get to. But what I think the real problem was (which I believe is unique to this dishwasher) it has a water valve on the end 6 foot hose this particular model only had about a foot into the cabinet under the sink the rest was bunched up behind the dishwasher and I think it was kinked when it was pushed back into place. So I remove dishwasher and as I was pushing the dishwasher back in I put all of the excess hose to under the sink cabinet security make sure there was no Kinks and it's been running fine for about 2 weeks now. So you might want to check those two things first filter and kinks in the hose. when you replaced the water valve you probably unkink the hose probably repairing it that way.
Thanks Scott. Your fix worked on my Miele.
Great to hear!😊😊😊 Thanks again and please click the link to Subscribe: ▶️-Subscribe Here: th-cam.com/channels/7fBqy8806u1r0NpPv_fQ2w.html
The process was perfectly described and fixed the problem! Thanks!
Thanks so much Edward😊👍
Thanks this saved me $400 or more for a part and service call.
Awesome, thanks Nate😊
Great advise. You saved me hundreds of dollars
Thanks.
After 19 years, a new valve....
That is impressive 😊
Thank a bunch, that helped me with my issue. I did have one slight difference in that I needed a 3/8" to 1/2" valve to connect to the water supply.
Excellent ,
Thank you
Scott, just wanted to let you know that after doing this fix a year ago, that this January the Circulation Pump Motor went out. They don't make a partition kit for it, so would have to be replaced at $1000 for part&labor. I looked at the new Miele and Asko and got a $400 off deal on a new Miele G6625SCU Crystal. Had it 2 weeks now and works good. But they no longer have the double Solenoid on the end of the hose. It's now just a regular metal braided hose. Miele says they now use a different Solenoid on the inside on the unit.
Maybe the new valves will last😊
Scottthefixitguy I had a Miele service tech out a week ago due to a manufacturing scratch on the control panel. I asked him about the valve change. He said it's too early to tell if this change fixes the issue from the units with the solenoid at the beginning of the water line. But he preferred the older set up.
FAUguy23 Hi there, I think this new valve is much better than the old style, I have replaced about 6 of these already, and it seems that they are working longer, no revisits so far, good luck with yours, by the way I’m a Miele Technician 🍺🍺Cheers.
FAUguy23 (
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Excellent video, well explained!
IMPORTANT NOTE ALL THE DIY GUYS out there trying to fix your dishwasher/wahsing machine:
Before following the advise in the video, make sure that the aquastop hose is actually really defective before cutting/destroying it, or buying a new valve.
I had the same defect characteristics, but my aquastop hose is actually still OK (I unmounted it before, which was tricky on my machine, and tested it).
I was close to ordering a new valve and destroying my aquastop hose as shown in the video. I would have been very disappointed to make all these efforts then just to see that this was not the problem.
Hi Scott. Thank you for the video and all your responses. In the newer Miele series G6xxx, the fill valve is inside the dishwasher at the bottom. Do you know if it's still possible to replace with the GE fill valve on those models? My g6875scvi fails on a normal cycle at the beginning of the rinse phase with a "intake" fault and I've exhausted all the troubleshooting steps in the manual.
Great video! You saved me lots of dollars with this simple fix. Also, we probably would have been washing dishes by hand for a week in order to get a repair guy out and then have him order the expensive part.
I'm thinking after reading one of the comments that said:
" Putting a mexico 40$ valve in place of a precision german made dual valve. So you put on 1 super cheap valve to replace 2 very high quality valves. Makes sense to expect issues. Cheap valves never work on these. Miele uses 2 valves. 1 is the main and 1 is flood fail safe. They both have to fail to flood your house"
that this fix could be improved by adding a second solenoid valve in series with the other, to get the redundancy of the Miele part. Any thoughts?
Thanks again, Scott!
Thanks so much👍👍👍. Reports from customers have shown that the 40.00 cheap valve lasts much longer than the 220.00 Miele fill valve. So happy that it worked so well.
Hey thanks for the video..I attempted to follow this video I did everything right I’m jus getting a F13 error now do you know why ?
dude. THANK YOU!!!!!!!
+nwwnyc You are most welcome.
How did it work for you?
First things first... Came here, watched, went to check if the valve I can get locally ( Aus ) would fit... Saw the a rat had gnawed through the wires.... Solder, shrink wrap, tape and rat bait fixed mine. Still, I wouldn't have seen it if I hadn't pulled the hose out through the cupboard wall a little while checking, so thanks anyway.
Nicely done 👍😊
The F08 can also come from the water flow sensor not showing water coming in. You can call Miele USA and ask if they can send you a new water flow sensor.
Hi Scott,
We have two Incognito DW’s and one has a bad circulation pump..So we have been using the bad deep as a parts machine...previous to the intake/drain light flashing the working machine lost power altogether...Swapped the control panel out...Is there a possibility the “new” control board is faulty and that is why the intake/drain light is flashing? I have repeatedly shut off the unit turned it back on ..water drains at it starts to cycle then stops and the flashing light comes on...When I change the valve how do I adjust the water level so it does not get above the handle?
I was going to do that today but the customer have allot of money I put the oem one thanks
Putting in the OEM is always best👍
Was the Valve (I found it on Amazon thank you) and brass elbow enough or did you also have to buy or obtain a water flow regulator as well. Did the water intake shut off when there was enough water for the dishwasher cycle?
Hi Scott,I have Miele G5500 SC with many problems,first the Heating resistor is 0.28 Ohm and send message Fault F24,I disconnect the Cable on the Heater and connect DVM,,well the DVM show me the 230 Volt when request,and the Fault F24 is go away,but the DW don't finished the job.
ex: switch ON then select automatic or ather Programm (no Heater connected).Start,the DW open the water and charge the DW ,stop to refill and start the job (seems to be OK)but after drain the water should be refill again the tank,then in this step the DW stop with message INLET error ,I controlled the water filter and is ok,. but stil not work.
replaced Parts: RELE',Pressure switch.
thank you so much for your Help
Hi Scott, great and simple fix. The Miele fix seems outrageously expensive by comparison. I found my solenoid was getting power, vibrating, but not opening. I deduced the failure is probably mechanical. I noticed that the original valve has a flow restrictor installed. I can't tell if the generic one does. Has anyone had any experience with removing this part? I guess it makes the fill quieter (a selling point for Miele). Any concerns about the increased water pressure in the machine? How long have people has this fix in service? You're providing a great service Scott!
+Mike Procter
Thanks Mike,
A few customers are at the 4 year mark now. It fills to exactly the same level as the Miele fill valve.
Hi can you tell me what the part is that i need to get? Your video is excellent and that will help
Well, I did pull the dishwasher out and yes it was the same. Before I attempted to replace the valve with the GE one I pierced the power cord to test for 120 VAC during the fill cycle but i got nothing but .26 volts. Any thoughts? Again this is the G805 model with timer dial no light or buttons.
Does the Miele G805 use the same fill valve design as this model? It is a 2 knob design with error lights on this model. I only see Cooper tubing going into the side of the dishwasher area. I wonder if this is tucked behind the unit or if the G805 uses a build-in valve in the dishwasher itself. Thanks
This video was right on time for me. It cost me less than $50 and less than an hour of work to fix my died Miele and saved me $500+ in repairs or replacement. The only problem is that you don't know if it is broken unless you take it apart. Fortunately that was the part that broke. Damned German Engineering created the part that cost more, cannot be disassembled/fixed and breaks more often. Even Bosh has a better valve.
+Andy F.
Thanks Andy,
So glad it worked for you.
Scott Is the water connection to the cold water or the hot water ? thanks
genius thanks man
You are most welcome😊😊😊
Hello Scott, great video, but how can i be sure the replacement valve you mention fits for my Miele G2670scvi model? Thanks!
It works for all Miele Dishwashers👍
My miele G868 turbothermic plus was working fine a week ago, but now it does not fill with water and goes through the cycle faster and the soap dispencer does not open. Please help . what can we do to fix the problem?
thank you
You’re welcome👍
Hi Scott: thanl you for your videos. How can replace the bottom door seal for my g603scvi licking? Need to remove and disassembly the all door? Thank you
Hi Enrico,
It’s pretty involved. I know they start to look nasty, but leak’s usually come from a bad door seal👍
I replaced the valve and the washer fills with the valve running for about 10 seconds then stopping, the red light blinks, then the valve opens for another 10 seconds. it does this repeatedly until the washer is full to the proper level. Unfortunately, the valve keeps opening and closing while the washer is draining. The washer fully drains, then fills again with the same process. Any suggestions.
Hi Scott!
Thank you so much for all your videos. Super helpful! People like you make the internet an awesome place for learning.
I've tried nearly all your suggested fixes barring the replacement of parts. I bought a used G818 miele machine that seems to be in great condition. But, I'm getting a F-08 fault code for water supply/pressure switch. What is odd is I don't have anyone else's symptoms. I start a cycle, indicator light illuminates and I hear nothing save for a few relay clicks, then the indicator light starts blinking after 30-45 seconds and the drain/intake light is on. do you have any suggestions? Drain valve is clean, impeller moves, circulation pump impeller moves smooth, water supply has ample pressure, intake screen clear. I never hear the drain pump start up or hum. I should also add, I bought the machine a year ago and it hadn't attempted a wash cycle until today.
Sounds like the fill valve needs replacing.
Hi Scott,
What is the size of the spade connector? I'm preparing to do the job so just want to make sure I have all the right parts ready.
Thank you
I’m not sure the size.
I know it’s the more common size .
I have a Samsung dishwasher model no DMS500TR had E2 message came up Which said problem with the Aqua stop brought the new aqua stop complete with hoses remove the machine to access the hoses and the bottom of the machine has no access points my question is how do u access to replace the hose
Hi. Has anyone noticed that their replacement valve is bloody noisy for about 1 minute when filling up the dishwasher with water, either for wash or rinse cycles?
Thanks for the great video, I just got the same error code. We had the 400+ job done about 5 yrs ago to replace the valve. My water valve is on and the valve does vibrate, but no water comes into the dishwasher. I cleaned the basket filter and this did not fix the problem. I am assuming that the intake valve is just not working despite the vibration. I am going to replace it tonight, but if you have any other advice, I would love to hear it.....
Yep, it’s time for a new valve.
I might check first that the fill line coming to the valve has water flowing through it by disconnecting it from the valve.
I replaced the valve. Works great. THANKS!!
I have a Miele 892sc (~13 years old) that has stopped filling most of the time. I removed and cleaned the intake screen of debris. No Joy (though it had a fair bit of crud). When it doesn't work, it stops right after starting a fill, after draining. It also vibrates briefly in that case, so it appears to be getting power and doing something, but I can't tell if water is getting through. I know that when it does fail, it's right at the start of a fill (rinse or wash). Sometimes it will get through a few fill cycles before failing again, once it got through an entire wash, but generally not (this started a few days ago). My big question is if it's likely to be the valve (failing to open, though the solenoid fires or tries), or if it's more likely to be whatever tells it that the valve opened (pressure sensor? or does it use electrical feedback from the wires (voltage drop/amps/etc)? If a failure mode for the Miele part is "vibrates but doesn't open", then this fix might be worth trying. If not, given the age and cost of parts, a more complex repair may not be worth it compared to a new machine, though perhaps a diagnosis for ?70?100? might be worth it.
Thanks!
+Randell Jesup
Great question.
The fill valve is worn out.
I would follow the video and replace with a generic fill valve.
It will work like new and only cost you 45.00
Thanks; I was all set to try it, and then.... The evening after I wrote that, it started showing all sorts of different sets of lights when being turned on or closing the door. I believe these are some form of error code (is there a link to something documenting them?) Most common is all-cycles lit, then sani-wash turns off after a few seconds; or rinse/wash/end all flashing, or just fast-blink from Salt. In these states, holding Start doesn't reset it and it can't be run. I did see someone report a similar problem with a useful tip - if one cycle lights, you can run it (or reset it by holding Start, and then run it). And "bouncing" the power seems to get one cycle light far more often that just turning it on (which virtually never does). Per what the person I found said, if I push the button enough to power it briefly, let it go and immediately push it again, that usually gets it in a few tries, then I can set the cycle and at that point it now always works - no intake/drain lights anymore...
Does this still sound like the fill valve? Could it be the pressure/heating module/sensor under the pump? Thanks!
Could be a level control/pressure switch
Scott, great video. Do you know if the GE valve WD15X10003 would ALSO be compatible for OUR model Optima G2470? (Less than two years ago we paid $650 to have Miele valve (7638530) replaced. Now we get drain/fill light and beeps, it'll drain residual water but no new water to start a cycle. Then it turns off.)
That will totally work
Joyce Higgins Hi there!!!! I just want to know who replaced this valve for you before, it was appliance doctor,mr appliance???? Just curious. Greetings.
Will this fix work on my Miele dishwasher if my problem is that it doesn't fill the machine with enough water?
When I turn the machine on the water doesn't fill to the bottom of screen filter handle and it sounds like it is starved on water because the recirculating pump noise is loud, I will dump a jug of water in the machine manually and it works fine with no noise and no warning light
Thanks Ken,
This will fix it😊
is possible to train working and starting G 7883 Miele model please ?
It’s not starting?
Can you send me that question to:
Scottthefixitguy@yahoo.com
I might have spoken too fast.
I ordered the 'universal' replacement, will get it on the 29th...
Symptoms : stops while cycling, drain/ intake light on.
I cleaned the filter, checked the drain pump (it is perfect and turns freely).
I unscrewed the inlet valve. Filter was ok, but still I took it off and did not put it back in ( it is until I get the new one, and our water is double filtered...
I did bang the valve a few times with a small hammer, and it seemed to work.
The Miele did 2 fill cycles, 2 drain cycles, then stopped. Drain/ intake light back on.
Any idea why the intake valve would do 2 fill cycles (on normal setting), then stop with the light on?
I don't think it is the water pressure sensor as I get a steady flow when it works.
I hope the new intake valve will fix this issue, but I am having doubts 🤔
Could it be something else?
I really appreciate your videos. A great help to a lot of people.
Thanks.
Thanks so much Michael,
Since it works well until later in the cycle I would suspect the heater/pressure switch and the circulation pump capacitor.
Hi Michael,
I think this video will do it: th-cam.com/video/eOBTeZBXWQ0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YEs9pHNFx4IUDfS8
You can call Miele USA and ask them to send you the run capacitor and the heater/pressure switch 👍
Thanks a lot. I will try and order the parts. I am in Canada, hopefully I can get them here.
Would those parts, if defective, trigger the intake/ drain light ?
I wish you and your loved one nice holidays and a happy new year.
Does the polarity matter wnen connecting the spade terminals?
No polarity issue👍
Hi Scott, great video! We have a Miele G1023U that I have just replaced the inlet valve on using a generic 7l/min solenoid. When i first turned the machine back on again, i could hear it opening the valve and all seemed to work. I turned it off and on to retry, and then the technical fault indicated by three yellow lights flashing at the same time came back. Cant get it to work. There may be something else wrong, or is the machine so sensitive it wont work with this valve? I also tested at reduced water flow by closing the tap.
Thanks.
I wonder if the lower drip tray got flooded?
I checked that first, the bottom of the dishwasher is dry as and looks just like when it was new.
I use these and they work great: www.amazon.com/OEM-Frigidaire-154637401-Inlet-Valve/dp/B0727NRTDV/ref=asc_df_B0727NRTDV/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198068632238&hvpos=1o10&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6610712924481724403&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032028&hvtargid=pla-350015890285&psc=1
Hi Scott. This didn’t work for our Miele. There’s no water flow after a short draining period after we turn on the dishwasher. Do you think it’s another problem that can be fixed or should we just look into a new unit? The dishwasher has been a champ for the past 20 years - maybe it’s just time to give it up?
Thank you,
Can you contact me at me email at: scottthefixitguy@yahoo.com
I have a F84 error. I notice my dishwasher is not filling. Could the F84 be resulting from a bad fill valve. Very little on web about.
Hi William,
The F84 error is due to water not being able to drain.
Can you disconnect the drain hose from below the sink and put it in a bucket and see if it will drain?
Hi Scott, The Intake/Drain Light issue is still happening periodically. I went a little further in my investigations by taking off the very bottom panel at the front of the machine and noticed about half an inch of water build up in the bottom panel. I also found a float switch which I presume is there to detect excess water build up and once I slid it out, I proved that it was operating ok. I then noticed a steady drip coming out from a section just to the right of the float switch. Question: Could this build up of waste water be a possible cause of the warning light? Thanking you in advance. Michael
Yep, just need to figure out how to stop the leak.
It probably needs a partition kit for the circulation motor from Miele USA.
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel Thank you so much Scott. I'm in London UK but I'm sure that I can locate the fitting. I feel I owe you a bigger thanks.. Have you a Patreon page....happy to contribute!
All the best....
I solved my Intake/Drain Light flashing using your fork method a couple of months ago but unfortunately it;s happened again but the fork isn't working this time despite getting the 'feel' that the rotor is not stuck. I saw on another one of your vids a method of identifying fault codes, is it possible to re-set to factory settings? (Just a thought) Otherwise I will try replacing the valve...Thank you once again!
No problem,
Can you send me a few pictures of how high the water gets in relation to the white plastic filter handle after 5 minutes of the cycle?
Scottthefixitguy@yahoo.com
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel Thank you so much for your rapid response. Today I decided to disconnect the hoses and electrics and brought it into my garden to work on it properly and guess what? It started to work as normal! I still think they're great machines so determined to keep it going ....All the very best to you....
I have f13 error. Replaced flow sensor but still same alarm.
Sequence:drain,fill ok water level ,then f13 help
Does the water reach the bottom of the white plastic filter handle?
What do think? Changed the inlet valve hose, cleaned the impeller region no joy. Any ideas Scott?
When do you notice the intake/drain light kicking in?
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel it’s about 30 seconds from the beginning, it pumps out the water but taking in water it sounds very much like there is air in the water. It will fill up with water until it needs to disperse it , but it won’t start the program cycle. I have a video of the sound of water .
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel less than 30 seconds
Water pumps out okay. Filter good as well.
Hi Scott, I have a G892, can you please confirm the inlet valve is the same as the link posted for this video, which is listed as a Fridgedaire valve? Thanks in advance.
Yep,
You’re all set👍
Scott, dropping a big thanks for the instruction, I was able to replace the pump last weekend. Everything went as expected. just to let everyone know that you need to shorten the original hose a few inches to not stress the electrical wires connecting to the new pump. Looking forward to more videos.
Any chance of servicing/cleaning these Miele valves if they happen to get sediment stuck in them? Mine was working flawlessly until my building turned off the water supply for a repair. When turned back on, valve seems to have failed.
I also hear the solenoid buzzing and turning off, but currently it seems to be unable to stop the flow of water. Would soaking in vinegar possibly resolve this?
That’s worth a try👍
You can disconnect it from the water, and then grab the white plastic filter by the middle ridge with a pair of needle nose pliers and then super clean everything 👍
I did this in the midst of a pandemic and it worked great til now. Now I have a Miele F-24 error. The only info is to call Miele service. Is this something you can give guidance to fix? It says it is the water leakage trigger--but since we changed the valve, that no longer exists. I see no water running anywhere.
Can you call Miele USA and ask for a new heater relay. Can you email me at: scottthefixitguy@yahoo.com so I can send you a video on how to easily do that?
I'm trying to find the 90-degree elbow. Is it 3/8"OD x 1/2"OD M/M?
That sounds right.
You can order a dishwasher fill kit for 12.00 that will have the elbow
Question- If the valve does vibrate… does this mean the valve works? My valve does vibrate and intake error light is on.
It’s good it’s vibrating because we know it’s getting power,
It’s just not opening. Replacing it will fix it✨👍
Scott, my unit is older (G 870 SC, 20 years old) and doesn't have error codes. The unit runs through the entire cycle but never fills with water. We had a similar issue previously related to issues with the drain that caused the drip pan to fill up. But, that doesn't appear to be the problem this time. Would you assume that the inlet valve is my problem?
I bet you it is the water inlet valve.
The very commonly fail on the dishwasher.
You can replace it with just a regular $40 generic valve instead of the $220 one from Miele.
Scottthefixitguy Darn it, I did the inlet valve replacement you explain here, but that didn’t fix. Any next likely culprits you can suggest? Appreciate your help!
Hi Scott, I have a Miele G4220 that drains, then fills, then immediately drains again with the intake/drain light flashing and the F13 error comes up. Water pressure is fine (we use a pump and bought a new one), water is filling to the correct level. The circulation impeller is fine. The machine is draining well. It just won't wash. Fills, then empties with error code. Do you have any ideas?
+bartra1000
Sometimes the float gets stuck and will cause that problem.
I would try pouring in two pots of boiling hot water and letting it sit for half an hour and then trying to cycle again
Thanks very much for your response Scott, I know about the float and the impeller. Neither of these were our problem. We have actually replaced the flow meter board since I sent this post. Now, it fills in a pulse (not constant), keeps going till it reaches the correct height and starts to pump out. It keeps filling in a pulse and draining continuously now and we had to switch it off so we didn't run out of hot water! I have seen some posts about the flow count needing to be reprogrammed once a flow meter board has been replaced but I can't find instructions on how to do this anywhere. If you happen to know how, or if it is necessary at all, it would be great if you could let me know. Much appreciated. Tracey
My washer is plugged in behind the unit and I cannot reach the plug. If I ensure that the breaker is off, am I safe to cut the wires without worrying about getting shocked?
+Paul Wnek
Great question Paul,
You'll be safe👍. Just make sure the dishwasher won't start up once you turned off the breaker.
Scottthefixitguy fixed it! you're great! thank you so much!!!
+Paul Wnek
Nice Job Paul👍
I have a G5225 about 6 years old with this problem. Seems to be filling with water and running, but after a few minutes it stops and I get an F13 Intake error. Seems to drain fine. Cleaned out the cabinet filters and non-return valve. Any ideas?
Might need a new fill valve.
Scott, I changed the fill valve as you explained. I then dried up the water in the lower pan. Now the washer is still overfilling. It overfills to the point of splashing my floor with water. Could I have a bad replacement valve? At my whits end. Thanks
+sjdierks100
Where does it flood?
The lower drop tray?
out of the front of the machine. It appears to be coming out of the bottom of the door. I kept the door open to watch it fill and when it completely covered the handle of the filter on the bottom of the machine, I stopped the fill so it wouldn't overflow. Thanks
My wife got fed up and called an appliance repairman. The local guy said the generic parts never work on the Miele. I was not here when he was here, but I would have loved to show him this channel. Still need your help
You followed a video from a parts changer. Puting a mexico 40$ valve in olace place of a precision german made dual valve. So you put on 1 super cheap valve to replace 2 very high quality valves. Makes sense to expect issues. Cheap valves never work on these. Miele uses 2 valves. 1 is the main and 1 is flood fail safe. They both have to fail to flood your house. In 24 yrs of being a miele factory tech, ive never had one flood. But ive seen a dozen at least theat ppl like this guy put on to save a buck. They fail sooner, and cause more problems than you ever will save. To do the job right pay a true miele factory tech 300 ish bucks and dont lift a finger. Problem with youtube is everybody is an expert but when the going gets tough, they are nowhere to be found!!!! Me? Well we are 2 million $ insured, 5 yr background checks, drug tested and drive trucks that must be no older than 10 yrs old......get what you pay for , afterall, you have a 2000$ dw , not a 500$ unit.
Hi Scott, I did one machine and when I finished it completed a wash cycle. So I loaded it with dishes and when I turn it on (Optima Series) the pc light is lit and if I try to run the drain light and beeping return and it stops. Could it just be low salt?
Thanks Joe,
Can you contact me at scottthefixitguy@yahoo.com and send me a video of what you noticed?
This didn't work for me. It seems that the dishwasher is only sending about 2.3v to the water intake valve which is not opening it (I know because I pulled the outlet of the valve off. Looking at the replacement part it seems like it wants 120v. Any suggestions?
+Randy Pulis
Hi Randy,
You might have water in the bottom drip tray underneath the dishwasher. If so it won’t let new water in.
Hi Scott, my Miele dumped water all over my floor last night and we got it to drain, but now it will not fill with water and the intake light is on. We tried your other fixes first to no avail. Now I'm sure I have to change the fill valve. How do I know that the ge part will work? I have seen that Miele has a few different valves. I have a touchtronic G 896sci plus. Please help! I cant afford the $160.00 they say it cost s for a Miele version.
+ANGELA ZIRA
Thanks Angela,
Do you think the valve was stuck open and flooded the floor?
I think the drip tray below the dishwasher is full of water from the flood and is preventing new water from entering.
I can send you a video that shows how to get the water out of the drip tray.
Hi Scott, I combed through some of your other videos and responses. I found what you were just suggesting and that's exactly what was wrong. No parts needed at all! Thank you! Your help is a life saver!
Scottthefixitguy do you have a link for this video?
Scott, Since doing the repair last week, the Miele Diamante Plus as been working fine until earlier tonight. After doing the main Wash cycle and then filling for one of the Rinse cycles, it drained the water and the Red Intake light started to flash again. I looked up the Error Code, and it is "F13, Water intake fault at end of step". Not sure what to check at this point.
+FAUguy23
Can you send me a picture of how high the water gets when it's done filling? It should reach up all the way to the handle of the filter.
Scottthefixitguy OK. When we got the unit installed 7 years ago, we had an issue with it making a lot of suds with different wash tabs (Miele, Method, Finish Quantum), so the Miele Tech came out and programed it to fill another 1L of water, which solved the problem (also selected 2nd Interm Rinse and Extended Drying Time). I have left those settings On, but can turn them Off in the service menu.
+FAUguy23
Can you send a picture of how high the water goes?
It should reach the bottom of the filter handle
Scottthefixitguy Yes I will later tonight.
With the unit set to the standard water fill amount, there is 1 1/8th Inch of water above the metal filter screen and does not reach the bottom of the handle:
www.dropbox.com/s/ljpna1iwv8uexk4/20170307_234106.jpg?dl=0
But with it set to Increased Water (service menu option 23) it fills to 1 3/8th Inch of water and does touch the bottom of the handle:
www.dropbox.com/s/kp4jw0vuklng14g/20170307_235302.jpg?dl=0
I have had it set to the Increased Water mode since the Miele Tech did this the first year we had it installed and was getting suds. Since he made the change we haven't had suds since there is slightly more water filled into the unit.
With the unit set to the standard water fill amount, there is 1 1/8th
Inch of water above the metal filter screen and does not reach the bottom of the
handle:
www.dropbox.com/s/ljpna1iwv8uexk4/20170307_234106.jpg?dl=0
But with it set to Increased Water (service menu option 23) it fills to 1
3/8th Inch of water and does touch the bottom of the handle:
www.dropbox.com/s/kp4jw0vuklng14g/20170307_235302.jpg?dl=0
I have had it set to the Increased Water mode since the Miele Tech did
this the first year we had it installed and was getting suds. Since he
made the change we haven't had suds since there is slightly more water
filled into the unit.
+FAUguy23
If the water reaches the bottom of the handle it shouldn't complain of a fill valve problem.
I would reset it by unplugging overnight and try again.
Scottthefixitguy
Last week I had the hot water valve under the sink slightly turned (closed), as having it open all the way was having the water gush in the dishwasher with a lot of force since replacing the Valve. Today I opening the hot water line all the way, which makes a lot more water pressure noise entering in the unit, but didn't get the error code. So maybe that was the cause? I will unplug it to reset overnight.
I also read that the wheel and reed under the left side panel may not be sending correct pulses.
www.fixya.com/support/t11584706-optima_g2430_miele_dishwasher_f13_error
+FAUguy23
I bet you fixed it by opening the hot water valve all the way👍
Scottthefixitguy
Hope so, but just out of curiosity, with it now opened all the way, and have the unit unplugged over night...if the Error happens again, do you think the problem could be with one of those sensors on the left side?
The link here seems to be for the incorrect part, maybe it's too old. When i check if this is compatible with Miele, the supplier at this link said not compatible. Please give updated link for the correct fill valve.
Hi Gail, the link to the new fill valve does work for Miele but it’s my own retrofit that is far less expensive. That’s why the supplier doesn’t know it works for Miele.
Do you know what the control voltages are for the valve?
In the US it’s 110 volts, other countries it’s 220 volts.
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel So they feed 240 or 110 to control the valve on/off? Seems like alot! I was expecting 5 or 12v
hello Scott, i've replaced the valve on my Miele dishwasher and still have the message "intake/drain"
Hi Prisco,
It may be the flow sensor needs to be replaced. It senses the water coming in.
Hi, my miele g6860 has the dreaded water intake message on the screen. Odd thing is the water does come through but into the cycle I get the message.
Might this still be the solenoid failing ?
You’re right,
As the resistance Valley goes up because of heat build up later in the cycle that’s when the fill valve has trouble.
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel Ok thanks, its only 2 years old and one month so just out of the 2 year warantee :( For something costing £1000+ or so Id have thought it would have lasted longer. If I cant get it resolved from supplier still I will follow your instructions here. Just trying to source the "supplying Demand 154637401 Dishwasher Water Inlet Valve With Plumbing Elbow Kit" at the moment and it appears impossible to get here in the UK. I wouldnt be suprised if Miele bought them all so we are stuck with their proprietry version. Ill keep looking,. Many thanks.Ill let you know Scott :)
Scott i have the incognito g 5675SCVi and it doesnt have the external valve. I'm getting the F18 and it hums and water just keeps coming in on that side port till i shut off the power button.
is the valve on the inside? I was just about to order the parts you suggested and realized it not there
Yep,
Just pull the dishwasher out of the cabinet and lay it on it’s side and remove the bottom panel and you’ll see the valve.
You can call Miele USA and have them send you a new one.
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel thanks I will do that. Odd thing, my wife tried a test and switched back to the powered brick instead of the gel paks and she ran 2 loads today! we'll run powered bricks till the weekend and then i'll open it up.
Very good👍
Hi all. Im not having any issues with water . My only issue is a high pitched whistling sounds which happens when the dishwasher is filling with water. would that be solved by this fix??
Yep, a new fill valve will fix it😊
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel Thank you Scott! If im not having any issues with the water coming in, is the whistling going to lead to anything if i dont change it right away?
I have a Miele Diamante Plus model that is 7 years old. Now the water continues to enter the dishwasher, even when the unit is powered off. Running a Wash cycle, it will fill, but then after a minute will drain and water keeps coming in. The solenoid box does vibrate, and gets power, and does stop vibrating, but water continues to flow. Do you think your fix would solve the problem?
+FAUguy23
Very common problem for Miele dishwashers. Your fill valve is mechanically stuck slightly open and will keep filling even when powered off.
You need to:
1. Turn off the water to the dishwasher under the sink
2. Watch the video on replacing the 220.00 Miele fill valve with a better 40.00 fill valve
3. Watch the video on fixing a dishwasher that just keeps on draining because your bottom drip tray is now flooded.
40.00 later and 1 hour of work you'll be up and running again with a great dishwasher
Scottthefixitguy I ordered the parts earlier today that was shown in the video. When I called Miele, their Hose with Solenoid (Water Proof System) is $140. I have opened up the bottom front access panel and raised and lowered the float switch a few times. That was a issue a few years ago, that it got stuck.
+FAUguy23
Nice job,
I had a float/flood switch get stuck on a customers Miele. The styrofoam swelled up and got stuck inside the plastic housing.
Scottthefixitguy is it difficult to replace that float switch, if that ends up being something else that has gone bad?
+Scottthefixitguy
Not to hard to replace the switch.
Just need to get the dishwasher out and then remove the 4 screws that hold on the bottom drip pan and there it is.
This video does not mention that there are different types of intake valves. There are both 120v AC and 12v DC valves. You need to make sure you get the right one. Of course, I did not.
Thanks, it’s 110VAC For sure
Hey Scott, I did this replacement and when I start a program it will fill, but then the dishwasher just kind of sits there and thinks. I hear something switching on in the dishwasher every once in a while - but it never progresses in the program. Any thoughts? Dishwasher is on the older side - Miele G858 Plus
I followed your fault code video and found it to be F09 Heather level switch not switching on at the end of thermal stops. Curious if you know what the problem might be.
Hi Lisa,
I would call Miele USA and ask them to send you a new Heater/Pressure switch.
Thanks Scott! I will try that :)
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel Hey Scott, I replaced the Heater/Pressure switch, but still didn't work, and was then getting fault F08. Based on your other videos I figured I'd replace the motor capacitor. I just finished doing that, but it's still not working and getting get F08 fault. I did find a piece of the impeller I must've broken off un-sticking it with the fork technique, and wondering if that's likely to be the problem - and can easily be replaced? Or if I'm at a point of having to replace the entire circulation pump (with which I will likely get a new dishwasher at this point). Thanks for your help!!!
Hi Scott,
You didn’t mention what size the brass elbow is and I can’t find one that looks like it anywhere. All i’m finding is 3/8 or 1/2 compression elbows with the compression on one side. Any insight would be great!
Hi Jason,
If you order a new dishwasher fill line for any dishwasher on Amazon it will come with the correct brass elbow
My dishwasher light flashes the intake drain, Salt(PC) and rinse aid. I have done the fork trick to free a possible seized impeller and that didn't work. I put my hand on the fill valve and it vibrates but only vibrated for about 2 seconds, stops for about 2 seconds and on and on I can hear a water type noise from the valve. What to do???????
+BBQBOY76
How high up does the water level go?
Should be as high as the filter handle.
Scottthefixitguy at one point yesterday, it was covering the filter. Now there is just water under the filter. No water in the drain pan, nothing clogging the other internal components.
+BBQBOY76
Sounds like it's time to replace the fill valve
thats what it was.Thanks.
+BBQBOY76
Very good,
Was it pretty easy to replace?
I replaced the fill valve hoping it would do the trick, but it did not. Will drain, but won't fill. Any advice? Also, you mention in the video that I should have felt some vibration in the valve, but I did not with the old one and don't with the new one. Electrical issue? Open to your suggestions. Thanks.
+D S
Do you think the bottom tray is flooded?
Does it keep trying to drain?
Yes, the bottom tray would flood, even with the machine turned off (created a bit of a mess on the floor). Ended up turning the water supply off to avoid this happening. Will drain when I turn it back on, but won't fill after draining when it starts the cycle. Thoughts?
+D S
If there is any water left in that lower drop tray it wont fill.
I'll send you a video
+D S
Try this video: m.th-cam.com/video/oSuyUNBJp0g/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. Drain hose is fine, no blocking in sump pump area. But the lower pan is full of water. Wondering if it's a leaky seal by the impeller that you mention in the video. Do you have a video on how to remove that part to check if that's it, and how to replace if it is? Very helpful videos by the way.
you did not talk about the part in the thumbnail. the "threaded water connection" you showit again at the end of video. no mention of how to clean it.
+artiste1954
They are very rarely dirty enough to be the cause of the problem.
After you remove the brass male threaded adapter you can then use an old tooth brush and a spray bottle to clean that small filter.
How did you know the part was faulty?
The water wasn’t reaching the bottom of the white plastic handle of the filter.
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel thank you!
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel a repairman told me my Water intake chamber is defective. This is not the same thing as the fill valve, correct? If not, do you have any suggestions? He's saying its a $500 fix and I'm better off replacing the whole unit since mine is about 12-13 years old. Any advice is appreciated.
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel what symptom did you notice.
Hi Scott - I just did this replacement on my Miele Incognito (about 11 years old) after checking the drain hose for clogs, cleaning all the filters inside the machine, and checking the inside thoroughly and the intake/drain light still comes on a few minutes into the wash cycle. Is there anything else I can try, or is it time to replace the dishwasher?
Thanks,
J
I think the circulation pump impeller is jammed. I can send you a video of how to free it up if you like?
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel Always happy to watch more videos ;) To clarify further - the dishwasher will seemingly run for several minutes before stopping and the circular red light flashes, and the intake/drain light starts blinking. Thanks again!
Jason
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel FWIW - I just tried the fork trick, and managed to rotate the impeller. Tried running the dishwasher again, went for a few mins and intake/drain light flashing again...
Can you send a picture of how high the water is in relation to the plastic filter handle when the intake/drain light comes on?
@@ScottTheFixItGuyChannel not sure how to send a pic via the comments - but think i found your website. the level is just below the handle on the filter.