Very excellent video comparing the Freewell ndpl filter vs no filter . I recieved my mini 2 and Freewell filters yesterday ! My first dji drone I've been using the filters ndpl 8 , ndpl 16 which is your favorite filter?
at 3:17, when you switch from the side by side to "no filter"... that no filter looks alot more like the filtered in the side by side... which is which??
Marine stadium - sky is blown out with the filter and looks natural with no filter. Also filters add sun flare and glare like the red tint you mentioned later in the video. Filters are great for still photography where you can decide and adjust filter for each particular shot. However, for moving cameras like drone or helmet camera some footage is improved and some is even worse.
You should have done the same drone footage with and without the filter instead of just a side by side as the filter would show you exactly what you are missing by not flying with one.
Wtf @ 3:15 isn't he using the filter video instead of non filter when he tasks about the drone having no filter? When you compare it, he is talking about the polarised video,rather then the non polarised video.....
Hey yep you are right. I wish TH-cam let you be able to cut out a section or edit it some how. In the description of the video I say that the clips got mixed up. Thanks for watching and your comment. Cheers!
I am not sure if this was addressed below but here goes. #1- Polarizing filters need to be rotated to get the effect you want. The best way to see this is to try and look through the filter(it's so tiny) and rotate the glass(there are ridges) and watch the changes of what you're attempting to video. When you find the correct rotation/angle...there's your sweet spot. If rotated to the wrong angle...the filter acts like a ND filter. #2- As for the water looking blue(straight out of the box)...you're seeing the sky's color on the water - not the color of the water.The polarizer, if rotated correctly, will minimize reflections with non-metallic surfaces. With all that said...your editing skills are excellent. Keep plugging along.
those are good points!! thanks. those little filters are not the most fun to work with lol. next time I fly I’m going to try to dial it in like you we were saying. I appreciate the kind words. cheers!!
Hello, i just bought a DJI mini 2 and thinking of buying the ND/PL 4-pack (ND8/PL, ND16/PL, ND32/PL, ND64/PL). Do you think this is a good choice? Because I was thinking you can turn on and of the polarisation. greetings from Holland
Did you do this ? Did it work ok ? I was thinking along the same lines. To save buying two packs ( ND and NDPL) just buy NDPL and switch off the PL with dial. I wonder if it’s a good system ? Or does the PL still have an effect because of the movement of the drone against the sky / sun?
I know this is an old video i came across. I am not sure about the filters, another lens to look through is never a good thing. So I have Pinnacle studio 25 ultimate. This comes with tons of colour grading & luts. So would i really need filters if i can do post editing. Genuine question. Steve.
that’s a good question. I’ve never used pinnacle studio. i think glare and reflection is hard to fix in post while still looking natural. i almost always use polarized or uv filters with all my cameras. but I am also a big fan of accessories for all my tech gear haha my just my thoughts…
very few cars driving on the roads.. must be during the initial phase of COVID. Loved the first few months. For once it felt like we went back in time except that time also had everything developed... nice and quiet. ---- So no filters?
lol saw someone saying you didn't need a Polarizing CPL filter for drones but clearly that's bunk! I mean, if you're shooting by water a lot like I am, then yes, cheers!
How many laws did you break doing that? Naples is in restricted airspace and even with approval, it has a ZERO height limit on the FAA flight map and flying over moving cars is also not permitted even with a Part 107 license.
Aren't PL filters useless on a drone though because you are not able to rotate the lens on the PL to get the right spot like on a stationary camera lens.
Just found this video excellent side by side. Was your filter an nd/pl or just a cpl with a no nd? I am trying to decide between a kit of nd/pl or just nd. If I get the nd/pl can't the pl be turned off by rotating the white line down to 6 o'clock? Seems the nd/pl would be more versatile. But Maybe more distorted
@@numgi5 this video was just the basic CPL. I did that because I was filming in different locations and lighting and I wanted to be consistent. The CPL is great filter if you don't have a need to buy the whole combo. I love filters and accessories so I usually get the big combo packs lol
hey skip, im only looking at one filter to buy. do you suggest an ND or a polarizer? and which nd or polarizer do you recommend bro which would you recommend for the dji mini 2? thanks for the video
Hey I would say the ND 16 polarized would be the one to choose. Especially if you fly over water or in any harsh sunlight. If that’s not the case then the regular ND 16 would be great too. Hope this helps!!
@@AerialMotionPhotography thanks skip Do you know if the nd filters for the dji mavic mini Will fit the mini 2? The ND16 on B&H says its for mavic mini
@@AerialMotionPhotography thanks skip im thinking of this one, www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1561918-REG/freewell_fw_mm_nd16_mavic_mini_nd16_filter.html is this the one you got?
@@TimandLauren that is the non-polarized one. i would recommend either of them they are both really good. the polarized works better if you are flying over water or with harsh glares. i couldn't find it on bhphoto found this link of the polarized version www.adorama.com/fwmmnd16pl.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA8ov_BRAoEiwAOZogwYLDEnnytyGo3YzOuH1U5QTZ7w8QIGs7MwEkWjt4RgVULuQkPM8B0xoCEbwQAvD_BwE&
at 5:20 do you think an ND8/PL would have solved the brightness issue? To preserve some contrast/color in the sky and water. Then brighten the buildings in post
Mavic Mini and Mini 2 both have issues when flying in really bright Sunlight, images look washed out and a lot overexposed. The filter makes it look soft and no harsh lighting. You can also reduce the exposure 1-2 down and it cuts down some reflections. Specially, checkout the sky with and without filter, with filter I can see more detail in sky or else it looks flat white and no shading.
@@AerialMotionPhotography I was about to order the Sunnylife filter but seeing this video, I did not order. Freewell I am unable to find in India. I will try reducing the exposure next time to see how it looks.
its pretty interesting to see it with and without,, I always prefer to use them, lately I've just been shooting more with a ND8 instead of ND16,,,always good job,, congratulations on passing the 500 sub mark!
@@BjEddy1 okay cool I thought I was the only one. auto gives me piece of mind that I won’t mess up an important shot. I do play around with manual mode too.
Great Video, Which filter did you use while filming the comparison? Dropped you a Sub, not long until you hit the 1000 sub milestone. Keep on creating......
@@AerialMotionPhotography I’ve seen many reviews of the all day 8 pack kit but that’s just too much money to spend in my opinion. If I were to buy just 1 or 2 filters which do you recommend? Should I really just get a CPL and just shoot in auto for every flight with it?
you can. but when the detail (like the clearer water) isn’t there then you can’t really add it back in there. in my experience it’seasier to start with under saturated footage and add saturation than to go the other way around. hope this helps! thanks!!
I have these filters and havent had much of a chance to use them yet. Do you use the mark on the filter to know how to get the best polarization angle to the sun, or do you just use the feed from your drones monitoring screen and adjust from there?
@@DungarooTV yep just match up the lines. and I was thinking about my MA2 polarized filter when I said 12 o’clock. The line for these is actually 9 o’clock.
I have not noticed and heat or increased temps. The Mini 2 does 100 mbps vs Mini 1 is just 40mbps. Not sure bitrate helps with keeping down the heat. Thanks for the kind words! Cheers!!
I’m confused. You show a filter/no filter spit view, and you switch to what is labeled as “no filter” at around 3:17. However, the un-split image matches the “filter” image that had been on the left, not the “no filter” image that had been on the right. Something seems backwards, in that apparently the left/right labels were mistakenly switched from around 2:50 to around 3:16, or the single label after 3:17 is incorrect.
Thank you! So for normal photos (not long exposure or photos where you want to get some motion blurr like fast cars or waves at the beach) all you would need is the CPL filter. That 4 pack would be great for cinematic style photos. But for normal photos the CPL is all you need. Hope this helps.
It nice that polarizer filter also make exposure more uniform, by reducing the highlights from reflective surfaces. Did you notice any instability of gimbal during the use of the filter? I am looking in future for some PLND filters to reduce also the exposure time.
it really does. I have never had any gimbal or performance issue with filters. unless I don’t put the filter on correctly it kind of freaks out and flickers back and forth.
hey skip, so i just got my dji mini 2 today and was wondering 2 things man 1. is it normal for the image to be kind of noisy? not from afar, but when you really look close, i see like little pixels formulating 2. When using an ND filter, do you set your exposure to a certain level? -7 for example.
Very excellent video comparing the Freewell ndpl filter vs no filter . I recieved my mini 2 and Freewell filters yesterday ! My first dji drone I've been using the filters ndpl 8 , ndpl 16 which is your favorite filter?
those are my favorites as well!
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I reckon 80% of the time, the ndpl 8 will be used most followed by ndpl 16. The darker shades will only be used when it's super bright!
@@DungarooTV I also error on the side of using the lower ND numbered filter 👍🏼
at 3:17, when you switch from the side by side to "no filter"... that no filter looks alot more like the filtered in the side by side... which is which??
I thought the same I think he meant WITH filter but I'm not sure
Definitely a typo!
8:15 ah.. I was hoping to see the front of that building you passed with the CPL applied!
Marine stadium - sky is blown out with the filter and looks natural with no filter. Also filters add sun flare and glare like the red tint you mentioned later in the video. Filters are great for still photography where you can decide and adjust filter for each particular shot. However, for moving cameras like drone or helmet camera some footage is improved and some is even worse.
You should have done the same drone footage with and without the filter instead of just a side by side as the filter would show you exactly what you are missing by not flying with one.
Wtf @ 3:15 isn't he using the filter video instead of non filter when he tasks about the drone having no filter? When you compare it, he is talking about the polarised video,rather then the non polarised video.....
Your "With" and "Without" was backwards about every time. Like come on
“I can’t live…with or without you…” - U2
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@3:17 no filter? huh? looks like filter to me. wtf?
Hey yep you are right. I wish TH-cam let you be able to cut out a section or edit it some how. In the description of the video I say that the clips got mixed up. Thanks for watching and your comment. Cheers!
It seems the dark fall off is worse with the neutral density,
hmmm i'm not to sure if i have noticed that but i will look out! cheers!!
Dude, your narration doesn't correspond to your annotations. Might want to re-edit. Otherwise, helpful. Thanks :-]
I am not sure if this was addressed below but here goes. #1- Polarizing filters need to be rotated to get the effect you want. The best way to see this is to try and look through the filter(it's so tiny) and rotate the glass(there are ridges) and watch the changes of what you're attempting to video. When you find the correct rotation/angle...there's your sweet spot. If rotated to the wrong angle...the filter acts like a ND filter. #2- As for the water looking blue(straight out of the box)...you're seeing the sky's color on the water - not the color of the water.The polarizer, if rotated correctly, will minimize reflections with non-metallic surfaces. With all that said...your editing skills are excellent. Keep plugging along.
those are good points!! thanks. those little filters are not the most fun to work with lol. next time I fly I’m going to try to dial it in like you we were saying. I appreciate the kind words. cheers!!
it depends on the shoot environment
Hello, i just bought a DJI mini 2 and thinking of buying the ND/PL 4-pack (ND8/PL, ND16/PL, ND32/PL, ND64/PL). Do you think this is a good choice? Because I was thinking you can turn on and of the polarisation. greetings from Holland
yeah i think that is a great choice! i use the ND/PL 16 the most here in Southern California. hope this helps!
@@AerialMotionPhotography Thanks, seeing forward to test them!
@@SretloW nice!
Did you do this ? Did it work ok ? I was thinking along the same lines. To save buying two packs ( ND and NDPL) just buy NDPL and switch off the PL with dial. I wonder if it’s a good system ? Or does the PL still have an effect because of the movement of the drone against the sky / sun?
Ummm does this kids dad (Nicholas Cage) know he is on TH-cam?? Good video man :)
haha!
A Drone is a flying camera, so if we use these filters on our DSLR, we need them on our Drone cameras.
I know this is an old video i came across. I am not sure about the filters, another lens to look through is never a good thing. So I have Pinnacle studio 25 ultimate. This comes with tons of colour grading & luts. So would i really need filters if i can do post editing. Genuine question.
Steve.
that’s a good question. I’ve never used pinnacle studio. i think glare and reflection is hard to fix in post while still looking natural. i almost always use polarized or uv filters with all my cameras. but I am also a big fan of accessories for all my tech gear haha my just my thoughts…
very few cars driving on the roads.. must be during the initial phase of COVID. Loved the first few months. For once it felt like we went back in time except that time also had everything developed... nice and quiet.
---- So no filters?
it was a nice and peaceful day. i like with the filters for most cases.
with filter you kill the video like i say if u use filter means camera cheap
lol saw someone saying you didn't need a Polarizing CPL filter for drones but clearly that's bunk! I mean, if you're shooting by water a lot like I am, then yes, cheers!
cheers to you as well!
why does ur 4k look like 720p lol
I think this test would have looked better if the video was properly exposed.
that’s a good idea for next time 👍🏼
I prefer without filter lol
6:00 is the best exemple
In 3:18 you Write NO Filter but it is with filters?
dang i didn't notice that mistake ☹. thanks for letting me know!!
@@AerialMotionPhotography no Problem! Thanks for your work! Well done. Greetz from Austria
@@richg.4980 thanks for the kind words!! cheers from California!
I was about to ask that lol
How many laws did you break doing that? Naples is in restricted airspace and even with approval, it has a ZERO height limit on the FAA flight map and flying over moving cars is also not permitted even with a Part 107 license.
thank you I’ll be more careful around there!
Complicit boot licking boot ridin sheeper here, papers please, seriously we all would like to see your papers to speak freely please?
no filter way better with filter sucks any camera need filter means sucks
Shucky sticky fy dollrah den bro?
His "jokes" are total fails...
Great video! I reckon 80% of the time, the ndpl 8 will be used most followed by ndpl 16. The darker shades will only be used when it's super bright!
Aren't PL filters useless on a drone though because you are not able to rotate the lens on the PL to get the right spot like on a stationary camera lens.
they do spin but I usually leave mine in the setting where the two lines meet. and I find them to be very helpful on drones.
Just found this video excellent side by side. Was your filter an nd/pl or just a cpl with a no nd? I am trying to decide between a kit of nd/pl or just nd. If I get the nd/pl can't the pl be turned off by rotating the white line down to 6 o'clock? Seems the nd/pl would be more versatile. But Maybe more distorted
Could you tell me what exact filter are you using in the examples
the Freewell CPL Filter. the Mini 1 and Mini 2 use the same size FYI
@@AerialMotionPhotography Just the basic CPL or one of the combo CPL & ND ones?
@@numgi5 this video was just the basic CPL. I did that because I was filming in different locations and lighting and I wanted to be consistent.
The CPL is great filter if you don't have a need to buy the whole combo. I love filters and accessories so I usually get the big combo packs lol
Hey Adam, great video pal, keep up the great work
thank you very much!!
Thanks! Think I'll hang on to my money!
nice happy this video helped you
hey skip, im only looking at one filter to buy.
do you suggest an ND or a polarizer? and which nd or polarizer do you recommend bro
which would you recommend for the dji mini 2?
thanks for the video
Hey I would say the ND 16 polarized would be the one to choose.
Especially if you fly over water or in any harsh sunlight. If that’s not the case then the regular ND 16 would be great too. Hope this helps!!
@@AerialMotionPhotography thanks skip
Do you know if the nd filters for the dji mavic mini
Will fit the mini 2?
The ND16 on B&H says its for mavic mini
@@TimandLauren yes they do!
@@AerialMotionPhotography thanks skip
im thinking of this one,
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1561918-REG/freewell_fw_mm_nd16_mavic_mini_nd16_filter.html
is this the one you got?
@@TimandLauren that is the non-polarized one. i would recommend either of them they are both really good. the polarized works better if you are flying over water or with harsh glares. i couldn't find it on bhphoto found this link of the polarized version www.adorama.com/fwmmnd16pl.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA8ov_BRAoEiwAOZogwYLDEnnytyGo3YzOuH1U5QTZ7w8QIGs7MwEkWjt4RgVULuQkPM8B0xoCEbwQAvD_BwE&
That’s a wonderful review. Very practical.
thank you very much! cheers!!
Thank you for sharing the side by side views, really helpful. I was wondering what was the max distance during these tests. Thank you
thank you! the max distance was probably a couple thousand feet.
@@AerialMotionPhotography Amazing, thank you
at 5:20 do you think an ND8/PL would have solved the brightness issue? To preserve some contrast/color in the sky and water. Then brighten the buildings in post
The video I was looking for! Good job, you know what people are searching for :)
thank you very much! cheers!!
Mavic Mini and Mini 2 both have issues when flying in really bright Sunlight, images look washed out and a lot overexposed. The filter makes it look soft and no harsh lighting. You can also reduce the exposure 1-2 down and it cuts down some reflections. Specially, checkout the sky with and without filter, with filter I can see more detail in sky or else it looks flat white and no shading.
yeah totally! thanks for watching. do you use any filters??
@@AerialMotionPhotography I was about to order the Sunnylife filter but seeing this video, I did not order. Freewell I am unable to find in India. I will try reducing the exposure next time to see how it looks.
@@tarinidas7248 nice good luck. feel free to share with me how that works out!
The filter that you used, Was it an ND8 m?
i just saw this comment. in this video I only used the polarized filter with out an ND.
its pretty interesting to see it with and without,, I always prefer to use them, lately I've just been shooting more with a ND8 instead of ND16,,,always good job,, congratulations on passing the 500 sub mark!
thank you! when you use your ND filters do you switch to manual settings?? I’ve left it in auto and am still getting very good results
@@AerialMotionPhotography I always use auto too, its pretty good for the most part, I never alter my footage,, I can tell when its been done ,,
@@BjEddy1 okay cool I thought I was the only one. auto gives me piece of mind that I won’t mess up an important shot. I do play around with manual mode too.
Great Video, Which filter did you use while filming the comparison? Dropped you a Sub, not long until you hit the 1000 sub milestone. Keep on creating......
awesome thank you for the support!! I used a Freewell CPL Filter in this comparison.
What is the best adjustment on the cpl? I turned the dial and watched on the screen but couldn't tell any difference
It looks like i need a pack of filters
Wow! Beautiful! I wanna go there to fly! Thank you for confirming my argument of almost always using a cpl! :))
thanks me too!
cringe
thank you lol
Which "filter" did you use throughout this video and did you have it on auto or manual the whole time?
I used the Freewell CPL filter and only auto mode
@@AerialMotionPhotography I’ve seen many reviews of the all day 8 pack kit but that’s just too much money to spend in my opinion. If I were to buy just 1 or 2 filters which do you recommend? Should I really just get a CPL and just shoot in auto for every flight with it?
@@elik1491 I would get the CPL and ND8 those are the ones I almost always use here in Southern California.
@@AerialMotionPhotography So what are the benefits of each of those and in what scenarios would you use each?
Was that the gimbal issue, that we saw around 7.05 or a manual turn of the gimbal ?
if you made the gimbal look straight vertical 90 degrees , is that still ok to do with the Freewell ND filters?
Great video, can you tell where have you shoot it?
where I filmed it?? Shoreline Village in Long Beach, CA
@@AerialMotionPhotography that's beautiful!!!
@@sublimwest it’s one of my favorite places to drone :)
Can’t you just edit the video’s color?
you can. but when the detail (like the clearer water) isn’t there then you can’t really add it back in there. in my experience it’seasier to start with under saturated footage and add saturation than to go the other way around. hope this helps! thanks!!
@@AerialMotionPhotography i see, thanks for the tips 🧡
@@minzyminz9987 no prob!! cheers!
I have these filters and havent had much of a chance to use them yet. Do you use the mark on the filter to know how to get the best polarization angle to the sun, or do you just use the feed from your drones monitoring screen and adjust from there?
I almost always use it in the standard setting. lining the two markers at 9 O’clock
Hey thanks for the comparison and breakdown on this! Footage looks great in both but the filter does make a noticeable difference
they really do look good. thanks for the kind words!
@@AerialMotionPhotography what about having settings to auto exposure would that be ok?
@@knowthyself1981 in this video I use auto settings with good results.
videos great but you should also mention what filter is being used with the comparisons.
thank you! the filter I am using is Freewell CPL filter.
One question though - are the polarised nd filters adjustable or just hybrid?
they are adjustable. but I’ve found the “suggested” setting with the marker line at 9 o’clock to be the best
@@AerialMotionPhotography That's great. Many thanks - so just leave the setting where the marked line is by default? Cheers
@@DungarooTV yep just match up the lines. and I was thinking about my MA2 polarized filter when I said 12 o’clock. The line for these is actually 9 o’clock.
@@AerialMotionPhotography Great advice. Much appreciated!
@@DungarooTV no prob!
Good video and a very good dron for 400 500$ with 4k 30p .I whant to buy this drone soon .A question , the drone does not heat up in 4 k shooting ?
I have not noticed and heat or increased temps. The Mini 2 does 100 mbps vs Mini 1 is just 40mbps. Not sure bitrate helps with keeping down the heat. Thanks for the kind words! Cheers!!
You’ll get better results if it’s facing 90 degrees away from the sun
I’ll try that out thanks!
I’m confused. You show a filter/no filter spit view, and you switch to what is labeled as “no filter” at around 3:17. However, the un-split image matches the “filter” image that had been on the left, not the “no filter” image that had been on the right. Something seems backwards, in that apparently the left/right labels were mistakenly switched from around 2:50 to around 3:16, or the single label after 3:17 is incorrect.
Similarly, at 4:13 you verbally say “no filter,” but the label says “filter.”
yeah you’re right I’m sorry about that. thank you!
Great video thanks for posting much Aloha 🏄🏽♂️🌺
cheers!
so as a new mini 2 guy who would only take photos would i only need the 4 pack of 4+8+16 and the CPL.Absolutely great video.cheers
Thank you! So for normal photos (not long exposure or photos where you want to get some motion blurr like fast cars or waves at the beach) all you would need is the CPL filter. That 4 pack would be great for cinematic style photos. But for normal photos the CPL is all you need. Hope this helps.
@@AerialMotionPhotography cheers and thanks.
It nice that polarizer filter also make exposure more uniform, by reducing the highlights from reflective surfaces. Did you notice any instability of gimbal during the use of the filter? I am looking in future for some PLND filters to reduce also the exposure time.
it really does. I have never had any gimbal or performance issue with filters. unless I don’t put the filter on correctly it kind of freaks out and flickers back and forth.
Videos are helping me understand nd and polarizer filters. Cheers man
thank you very much!!
great review i have also mini dji 2 looking for filter or not
thanks! fly safe!
FINALLY someone in my area and with a Mini 2! Great footage Skip, maybe I'll see you out there!
were you using an ndpl 16 on the video?
nope just the standard polarizer. I may have mentioned a nd 16 but it was just to say that was my favorite filter right now
@@AerialMotionPhotography the standard polarizer is the one that doesnt have numbers ?
@@denisnatera3633 yep
@@AerialMotionPhotography thanks very nice comparison btw
@@denisnatera3633 thank you very much. cheers!
What camera gear r u using for this video?
i use a Canon 6D with 24-105mm lens and Rode VideoMic Camera-Mount Shotgun Mic
Thanks for the comparison shots.
no problem thanks for watching!!
Nice shot. I really enjoyed it
thank you!
yes throw down more the "Pipeline" lol. It was a Good educated video, thanks.
thank you! cheers!!
Nice. Love the side by side comparisons.
thank you very much! Cheers!!
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thank you! cheers!!
hey skip,
so i just got my dji mini 2 today and was wondering 2 things man
1. is it normal for the image to be kind of noisy? not from afar, but when you really look close, i see like little pixels formulating
2. When using an ND filter, do you set your exposure to a certain level? -7 for example.
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