2022 Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid - My Thoughts!
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- Is it really a better bike?
Many people asked me what I think about the new Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid. In my opinion, this is a brilliant move from the company - Well done Yamaha! Let me repeat it: It is a brilliant move from the company, but... as you know everything you said before "but" is shit, everything what are you going to say after that really matters! In this video, I will share my honest opinion on this topic, so if you have nothing to do, grab your favorite drink and stay with me!
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My father and my good friend neighbor both ride the ktm 990 and i own the tenere 700 world raid with the dual tanks. First: ive been riding motocross/enduro/adventure bikes for 20+ years and have never heard of anyone boiling petrol inside the tanks, even with the smoking hot engine of the 990. My dad rode 50.000km on his 990 across south america at really high tropical temperatures and never had such an issue. That being said i am sure i will never run into this issue with the raid since it runs pretty cool as it is. Second, the suspension difference on the raid is huge. Its not just the travel. The spring rates are much stiffer and shim-stacks are also much different. The compression and rebound damping range is much bigger compared to the stock bike and the ramp-up/bottom out resistence is simply uncomparable. The two suspension systems are in my experience completely uncomparable. Regarding the weight, let me put it this way: the tanks on the raid are so much lower that if you fill them up with the same 16L as the regular model, the bike feels considerably lighter. And i dont know what you mean with "filling up procedure"? When i fill up my bike i just open the lids one after another and just fill them up normally. Any weight difference between the left-right tanks the bike will compensate immediately, since it has a dedicated mini-fuel-pump to regulate the level on both sides. I feel like this video was very "theory based" and less experience based with the bike in question. Again, i own the raid and non of your concerns with this modell came true to me. Would love to hear you experiences with it if you ever get your hands on one. Cheers Pavlin❤
So what is the conclusion, should a guy buy a t7 world raid ???
@@hrithikraj6862 in my opinion, yes. Been riding it now for quite a while and cannot imagine a better bike for me. The more i ride it, the more i like it. Let me put it this way: if someone stole my bike today and i got the full money back from insurance, i would be buying the world raid again with closed eyes no questions asked. And everyone in my little motorcycle community that rode my bike love it immediately
Is it good for someone who is 5feet 8 inches tall ?? Let me know...mate ?
@@hrithikraj6862 should be just enough. Definetely try it out before buying
@@hrithikraj6862 should be fine. Definetely test ride one before buying
I m glad that Yamaha released an improved version of the Tenere, cause the fan boys will be upset and want to get it, so they will sell their early version to us who are broke at a decent price😁
😂😂😂
Possible scenario!
You sir are a philosopher, but you don't have to tell everybody my game.
Hahaha that was the first thing i thought about
Man, so true … would be t h e best solution for all rationalists 😂😂👍🏻
Absolutely agree with you The original version is still perfect machine worth the price Thanks for your opinion Regards
Any time! Thanks for watching!
I think comparing KTM engineering to Yamaha engineering is little short sighted. KTM, like every other European manufacturer, are very short sighted when designing. They don't care if it'll work two years down the line because they plan on selling you a new bike by then. Yamaha is much more thoughtful in their approach and I'm sure they would have known of the common issues associated with the dual tank KTMs.
I think the same but only the future will show us what will be.
Well...I have to agree with this statement.
@@gbner9991 Are you really going to sit there and say KTMs are more reliable than Yamahas? The oversight on the exhaust hanger is baffling but the dual tanks is supposed to fix the high COG because they sit lower. They also addressed the suspension being too soft for some riders.
BigSingle654, I agreed with the first statement but to talk about reliability after 30,000km is just not serious. KTM is very well known for its reliability issues and I don't think that this will change any time soon. I hope that you will never learn it the hard way.
@@gbner9991 LOL. Yamahas are designed to run hundreds of thousands of km, not amateur hour mileage like 30k
Interesting insight Pavlin, thanks for sharing.
If I may say, regarding the dual tank: comparing the T7 solution with KTM 950/990 it's not appropriate in my opinion. The KTM 950/990 engine is famous for being as hot as a vulcan, and the problem is a bit less visible with the 1190 series (I own this). I am not surprised if your friend had the tank deformed.
The advantage of having a double tank is that, in case of failure of one tank due to a falling, you should be able to proceed you journey with the other one. I have seen a couple of episodes during and off-road use. As you always say, it depends what you use your bike for.
I agree with you about changing the muffler position, that modification would have been a real plus.
Thanks again.
I understand the benefits of the side tanks, but as I said they come with certain risks.
You always make a lot of sense, Pavlin - thank you for taking the time to produce these videoes for us. Regarding the original tyre, it probably was a production defect. As to the tube - natural rubber tubes tend to leak a little, especially light duty ones. On the upside, they normally just puncture with no further damage, whereas butyl inner tubes leak next to nothing when whole, but usually rupture if punctured. Could the stock tube be made from natural rubber?
Otherwise, I fully agree that spending lots on technology usually do not bring lots of new functionality. I feel there often is a lot of hype, and when you read test reports about the newest and greatest, you are lead to believe last year's model is totally obsolete. Then you notice someone on a 30 year old machine leaving everyone on new material behind. Because he or she invested in developing their skills instead of buying new bikes every year.
Good points!
Thank you Pavlin for the useful and interesting views you always have. Personally, I think that the World Raid edition makes sense if someone is almost two meters tall and weighs over a hundred kg and is still planning a travel two up on tenere😊
*agree about bikes but NEVER TOO LATE TO CHANGE YOURSELF*
True!
In Canada, there are roads where you can travel 400 km without a fuel station. The 500 km range makes this model appealing.
There are but it doesn't mean you have to. I am sure that you can easily find a better route. If not a cheap petrol can will do the job.
@@motorcycleadventures Indeed, a small petrol can would do for most of it. But no, in these cases, the alternate route is an airplane. One road I've travelled has a 400 km stretch with nothing, a fuel station, then another 200 km to a small community with a fuel station. We have some truly remote places!
The road in question is between Matagami and Radisson. It's on the way to the Trans-Taiga, the most remote road (by land) on the continent. Some adventure riders do the Trans-Taiga. Might be something you'd enjoy someday!
Okay, then for this place, which I guess you are not going to ride everyday petrol can for 10 dollars would be just fine. The rest, 1,990$ you can save to travel in areas with more petrol stations.
@@motorcycleadventures Yep, no argument there! The same thing can be said about buying a fancy caravan versus staying in hotels.
True
Great video Pavlin ! I'm totaly agree with you, on additional tips, the new World raid is higher than the "classic" and it should be tricky at low speed on to control the bike in case of trouble if you are less than 1m80
I love the new bike. Will I ever need the extra 7 litres? Probably not, But the peace of mind I will have knowing I have zero chance of running out of fuel even if I get lost or miss a fuel stop will allow me to enjoy my trip better, which is what matters most! Cheers!
Even with 30l you can run out of fuel. Depend of how you plan your trips.
Mister, if I keep watching your videos at the pace I do lately I'll hit the floor 'cause my favorite drink don't come weak.
I didn’t have any problems mounting the tanks on my 950 adventure. I think they scrapped it because the cost and weight.
Thanks for sharing!
@@motorcycleadventures you’re welcome my friend.
I can almost guarantee that Yamaha will not have all those ridiculous dual tank issues that KTM had. Engineering for reliability is a high priority with Japanese manufacturers.
I hope the same, but... the quality is not what it was before... the Japanese companies are also not stupid and gave up on the money game. The move that they just did, with this World Raid upgrade, was more typical for BMW or KTM. I won't be surprised if they got another, exclusive version of it, with 48mm forks and a few more expensive gadgets. The design and the quality is still not as bad as the European brands but...
Thanks again Pavlin. You're 100% correct. We love to obsess about our bikes but they really are secondary. It's the experiences and the people that count. I'm riding a very basic DR650 from NZ to UK as it's cheap and simple! Would love to catch up for a beer in the summer of 2025 when I'm in Bulgaria. Nazdrave! 😊
I recently bought a world raid. I fully agree with Pavlin in this video, a lot of it is a bit additional stuff and still a shame of the exhaust. I bought the world raid actually just for the additional bigger tank ( i really love the miles i can make now) and also another simple reason: got a good deal on it. And since it is my first new motorcycle i decided to spend a bit more extra money on the world raid with a bit beter suspension. I do have to say that the wider tank compared to my testride with the orginal tenere did make it feel more bulky. But i got used to it quite quickly.
No, it is not brilliant move from the company, everybody expect 175kg wet weight tenere not 220kg Africa Twin wannabe. That longer travel is only to accommodate bigger weight. Besides I agree, I prefer mine standard T7 slim version. If I want to bigger range I take my 5 liters canister on the back. Anyway we have another Starbucks bike to choose from.
It is what it is!
7 litres are 5kg more… if you put 16 litres in the petrol tank its only 9kg more than the standard version with more suspension travel, wind protection and a few things. 1 cm more higher from the ground.. i thinks this is also important. Smart move, in my opinion, this is so much better in every situation except going to do “enduro” on sunday. Better motorcycle for traveling, offroad adventures, and everything the customer should expect from an adventure motorcycle
Fair enough!
Based only on looks I’d still go for the original model
Good decision.
I see you buying a Husqvarna Nordon 901 very soon.
Every video is explaining that it is one of the best adventure bikes ever made. I have driven it and can honestly say that this is b.s.
When you are over 1.80 meter then the 901 won't ever be a comfortable bike. Foodpeg lowering and handlebar risers are never going to make it a comfortable bike.
Every person has to realise that they really need to pick the bike that is right for them. And not go with a manufactured hype.
But this is exactly what i see happening. People just ordering a bike because they have watched so many video's on Y.T.
Riding needs to be something that you need to create as much with for yourself as possible. I have owned so much bikes. But the one that i had the much fun with was a Honda NX 250.
The stnadard tenere here in Finland costs more (at 13,5k€) than the world raid over there. World raid is sold at 16,8k€. Fuck me sideways.
Thanks for your thoughts and insight Pavlin! If I bought a new Tenere I would probably go for the World Raid, if I already had the slim one I would have spent the money on the existing bike instead. ...or as you say, focus on adventures with the money to spend 😁👌
Right on!
I like the idea of the larger tank. I hate carrying a spare fuel can, and I've been in a few places in the world where a long range really counts (as in parts of South America like Chile, where the gas stations are far apart, and Bolivia, where you can turn up in a town and every single petrol station is out of gas!) The increased weight is a wet weight, so you'd have to account for that. If you don't like the weight, and normally run with 16L, you could fill the tank only part way, and the center of gravity will be lowered. I also like the increased wind protection from the larger windscreen and side parts. So... On the whole, I'm looking forward to the new Tenere.
As I said in the video, they will sell it very well.
@@motorcycleadventures...up until the new Transalp and V-Strom 800 appeared, you can now buy an ex-demo Tenere WR with its first service done for under £10000, or £10.800 new! Plenty for sale, Yamaha overpriced them to start with!
Thank you for a great summary of the model. Always good to hear what you have to say, you being a rider who really uses their bike in the way it was intended.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video with valuable insights and information. In terms of weight the World Rally/Raid goes up to the AT levels which makes it a non favourable option. A tough choice for the new rider IMHO.
Thanks for sharing!
NewcT700. About 12000? Great bike.
Old T700 second hand. 8000? 5 litre fuel can. 12 dollars?
About 4000 to travel.and I can travel a long way on 4000. And new Tenere is now well proven.
Great bike Yamaha but I'll take the travel, please.
To each their own.
Happy travels 👍
Great calculation - I am with you!
Well done 👍🏻 8:30 shows e x a c t l y why it’ll be worth waiting. So makes me upset too, that this (until now) so curiously liked & recommended Pirelli-tire makes it so weird bobbling 🥴🤔 … my conclusion for today (after your real objective thoughts):
1. buy and get the cheapest T7 (here in Germany new about 10 k €) & enjoy it as a second/ or t h e offroad bike & save the rest of the money for doesn’t matter what
2. wait until the ultimate T7 is “perfect” & try to save all the money for that moment right now,
3. going on to enjoy my 7,6 K € 1200GS (229 kg wet) & save about 5-6 thousand € … 😂😂😂 or …
4. Spent a bit more euros & get the Tiger 900 RP (which in my opinion is one of the best Allrounder in this ccm-fraction)
But (!): when they fix that Exhaust-Holder & remove the exhaust a bit more towards the seat, I probably can’t resist anymore - so stupid 😂🤔😂 thx for this very good review 🙏🏻🌅
My pleasure. Thanks for taking the time!
Great video as always Pavlov!
I am in the market of coming back to riding a motorcycle and this time I am interested in try riding a little bit offroad/gravel roads. So the Tenere seems to be an affordable and fun option. Yamaha had their tour visiting our local dealer with the option to try out most of Yamahas line up. I frist tried the Tenere Explore and then the World Rally (Raid with an Acrapovic exhaust). I didn't think the difference would be that big, but I have to say it really was! The WR was so much more confident and stable on the road. If I already had the Tenere, would I upgrade? No!
Thanks for sharing!
Re that stupid muffler mount, cut it off, make your own clamp style bracket which can spin on the frame tube and do what Nerb1 on his TH-cam channel did ie get a new transition piece made which aligns the muffler closer to the bike. Problem solved BUT owners shouldn’t have to do this. This is what you get when you modify a road bike, too many compromises for dirt work and too much conservative Japanese thinking. OR buy a KTM and cope with all the design and build problems.
The KTM's got different type of problems. There is no, one universal bike to work in all conditions.
I disagree about 90% of your opinion,
I live in Libya and I needed every upgrade the came up with.
Okay. I never said that everyone should agree.
Nice video! I have the tenere 700 rally, 1 months now... i love it, 1.500km done! i think the same, nice new tenere, but i prefer mine! congrats from Madeira Island, Portugal.
Thanks, man! Enjoy your Tenere!
thank you for explaining the differences in these models. now I understand everything
Happy to help!
I'm sorry Pavlin but it is another superficial review (it was similar with the vigo smart track). How can you show a difference of 16 kg as a disadvantage, not saying where does it come from? The additional fuel alone is 5.25 kg (after all you can only pour 16l). The comparison to KTM shows the lack of knowledge of the subject.:(
It's a pity ... because I used to like this channel :(
This is not a review! This is my opinion and only the future will snow am I right. I know very well KTM problems.
I don' t like big petrol tanks and i don't need them.
My Transalp 700 has 17.5 l petrol tank and i have traveled all over the Balkans (including Bulgaria). Enen to the 2 pass of Romania (Transalpina and Transfagarasan) i didn't have any problem with the range.
Your videos are very interesting, Pavlin.
Thanks, man!
Judging a bike you have never ridden….. Have never heard of the problems you are describing being an issue with the raid. Keep to talking about bikes you have actually ridden.
Who told you that I never ridden it?
What you say about the KTM 950/990 fuel tanks is not exactly accurate. Yes, you should mount them in a certain way, but that's the same with many things, they should be carried out correctly. If you do this, there is no problem. It's the same with filling the tanks - just do it the right way and you will not experience a problem. It's not difficult to do the right way.
It is what it is!
The Raid is £600 more than the rally here in the UK. Ok its still not the unicorn that we all want but seems better value to me than the Rally. Higher screen, wider pegs, better suspenders. New TFT. 23 L tank that you dont have to fill up every refill if you want to keep the weight and COG down. Some built in crash protection.
For many will be the preferred version.
I have the Acerbis 23 litre tank for my T7 and your video has put my mind at ease. The bike will still be slim enough and I will have the range I want when I go on tour with my mates on their larger Adventure bikes.
Thanks for sharing!
The 950/990 heat due to tanks comparison is not relevant. The 9x0 motors produce outrageous amounts of heat whether dressed (adv) or not (SE/SM). Its not the tanks, its the austrians.
And the tanks make it even worse.
Yamaha, PLEASE bring this version to the USA without adding any more tech. I will pay a higher price than the the original for a greater fuel range and better suspension, but I do NOT want a bunch of different rider modes and other garbage.
Fair enough!
World Raid not Rallye Raid, as in 'WR' which means something to Yamaha enthusiasts. I'd rather have the new Extreme version with the better suspension, regular tank and high fender.
Fair enough!
you really have to stop saying "so if you have nothing to do ..." becouse then I realize I do have something to do and end up not watching your videos
Fair enough!
I could not fully get audibly what you said at 6:52, but what I heard was that 230mm of travel is the same as 3cm.
230mm is off course 23cm.
Or do you mean 3cm more than the previous version?
Yes
Your comments always very important to me, I like the way you describe reality, you are not like others, more then a ride the do modeling. But I think you should give more time to t7 rally, it's too early to talk about dangerous things like fuel tank can be melted due to heat and others issue, 1 out of 100 if it happens with any bike, it doesn't mean that two tank is problem.
Yamaha is Japanese bike, there machine are better.
Rest you are senior rider and more experience then me.
Regards
The future will show
It's a great looking bike but the weight!.....it's ok if you plan on doing only basic dirt road stuff but you don't want to be tackling difficult terrain and having to pick it up often. Modern bikes have become so heavy, even the small capacity adv ones.
It is what it is!
Finally. Someone who expressed the same thoughts i have. From my 1190 R i was looking to another bike. A bike that does not has some bad things the 1190 R has. And this is weight. I still need some power and i also want a bit comfort. So maybe a little bit less weight. But atleast a bike then with a bit lower center gravity. When the t7 came out i thought ok ? Lets see where this is going.
But soon i became aware that it is topheavy. For me it is. When i heard from this world raid with double tanks that were placed lower i became happy. For a short time. I would be more happier if there was less gasoline but that the center gravity was a big bit lower. What Yamaha has done is purely for marketing purposes. And creating a large amount of new buyers.
And now i am a bit sad actually cause Yamaha was so on the right path. I am getting older and picking the bike up after a crash is becoming more and more difficult. Expeccially when your own energy is degrading and when it is hot weather. And every time that you need to unload its luggage to loose weight that is on the top. This will drain me. All in all the concept is ok but in reality there is for me notting to gain. And this reality goes up for more people who wants to go away from the tarmac.
I hope that Honda will do a 450 cc double cillinder adventure bike and keeping the weight below 160 kg. And with a low as possible center gravity. Even a 450 single cillinder like the crf 300 would be great. And then with the same interval as their 300 cc counterpart. But with a bit better suspension. I would buy such a bike immediatly. It is not the crashing that i am afraid of. Cause this will happen if you want it or not. But those heavy bikes will take all your energy. They burn you out offroad.
Until now the 890 r is still the better choice for low gravity. But the maintanance interval is not so ok. And it has not the reliability for a world trip bike so to speak. So my hope is that there will be a lighter bike soon.
It is what it is!
Your issue with your front tire is not unique and not just with one tire manufacturer. Sometimes increasing production volumes means there may be less quality control. Instead of inspecting one of every 20 tires manufacturers test one in every hundred or even greater. A motorcycle's tires are it's #1 safety feature and should not have any defects leaving the manufacturer's plant.
It is what it is!
220kg wet weight. Meaning take the difference of gallons, turn them into pounds, and remove that. I’m gonna guess it’s not a big deal.
Fair enough!
Why have 2 gas caps right next to each other? You gotta fill up twice? And they couldn’t connect them? Hahaha 🤣 why?
It is what it is!
Thank you for your comments on the new Raid my biggest concern is the extra weight. Esier ti just carry extra 5 litre of petrol ? If that is really necessary
Absolutely!
Better a cruise control than a double tank for nothing
you can walk into any yamaha dealership in the uk now and get a 2021 T7 for 9k !!! so yeah i dont think the world raid will be my next bike. T7 !
Good to know.
Every video is epic- the brute honesty always makes u stand apart bud! Awesome vlog!
I appreciate that!
Great video. But I think that more petrol is better than less in a trip with uncertain offer of petrol bases, like Argentina, where it´s common.
You can always take a cheap petrol can for 10$.
I prefer the simple display (probably more durable) and one tank of the regular model
Good!
To me those dual gas tanks just look ridiculous. Absolutely destroys the sleek beauty of the bike. I agree with you that if you feel you need more gas just carry an extra gallon! (I just added the Alt-Rider rear luggage rack which is great for this). All the other features they added are more like high-end farkles and not necessary at all. And damn that new bike is expensive! Might as well get a Norden 901 for that money, assuming it is reliable.
I got lucky my oem tires were incredibly super smooth right from the dealer. For the way I ride those Scorpion tires have been nice.
After owning my T7 for a year and a half I find 2 significant faults with the bike: 1. Even as just a moderate rider I find that exhaust hanger as a problem waiting to bite me in the a*& and 2. lack of cruise control. I'm ignoring the exhaust hanger and hoping for the best (just installed R&G side racks which offer some protection) and for cruise control I added a Kaoko throttle lock. I live along the Alaska Highway and ride big distances and the size of the gas tank has never been an issue. And I can tell you that one of the secrets of this bike is that if you ride it at 80 km/h it will go over 500 km!
Thanks for sharing!
Would you buy it again? Yukon is a place I'd like to ride such a bike.
@@MarkRose1337 I absolutely love my T7! I definitely would buy it again. At this time I see nothing else in the market that I would rather have. I think it was made for me specifically: I'm 6'2" and between 190-200 lbs with moderate off-road skills. I came from a KLR 650, so to me this is like going from a Pinto to a Mercedes. And I just love the way it looks! I only add extras that add and not detract from its look! I guess I am superficial. Ya, the Yukon is a pretty fun place to ride. Lots of remote roads into the DEEP wilderness. I have barely touched most of it. Can't wait for summer!
The road is the goal, not the end, nor the means (motorcycle)! ... Has always been my motto, too. So refreshing while travelling. Thank you Pavlin!
Absolutely!
Pavlin, thanks for the review, excellent review.
At expensive helmets usually the value reflects the high price.
When it comes to a functional helmet, then it is clear that the cheap price is a main thing. It is also more comfortable to walk around with a cheap helmet in terms of scratches and theft. Noise can be overcome with earplugs, but the most important thing for me is that the helmet visor seal out the wind, otherwise the wind dries out the eyes and it becomes very unpleasant. On the other hand, most of the cheap helmets have no difficulty providing a reasonable wind seal at a speed of 100 km/h.
I agree!
So you change the original Pirelli scropion to Conti TKC80? And the shaker is off?
Yes, completely!
Lots great improvements if they add cruise control it would be sweet and a quick shifter
and hill control, traction control... and it will never ends. At the end we will finish with a bike that will ride alone and the rider will be pointless...
I agree, but my top of the list would be a 3’d party low tank and long seat for the regular T7 😎
Do whatever is good for you.
Certainly hope that Yamaha has not endorsed this review. You did not buy this bike did you?
I bought the first version.
a biker of 55yrs from Yamaha RD1 360cc Enduro thru to CB1300X4,..I have had Triumphs, BSA Rocket 3, Moto Guzzi Eldorado, Honda, Yamahas and a Suzi somewhere..bikes of today are to complicated..to many electrics, fuel injection, sensors, EDU, you name it..once upon a time if the bike broke down it was either petrol, spark or battery, and a teenager could fix it on the side of the road,,Now you have to get a tow truck to take you home, and a truck load of tools and testing equipment. Even my CB500x, you need to take the bike almost apart just to change the spark plugs,,,
Pavlin, nearly 20 year old KTM design has little to do with this Yamaha model. The KTM 9x0 engine is with very bad efficiency, 6-7 liters per 100km fuel consumption and rear pipe under the seat and small radiator. Compared to it the T700 is totally another generation engine, with much less HP, much better efficiency and much less heat. IF you stayed to the end I'll hive a hint to your friend. If you take out all the fuel from the ranks and leave them open, they return to the original shape and all the bolts fit perfectly :).
Regarding the other changes 2-3 cm suspension travel is big plus when riding offroad, but a problem for most not very tall riders. You can put 16 liters in this tanks and have much lower center of gravity compared to the other t700 models. Rear ABS off was one of the major deal breakers for me, glad it is fixed now. I'm seriously thinking of changing my KTM 990 Adv with this bike now.
Do it! You won't regret!
I'm glad I stayed until the end of the video! Will definitely keep in mind for the first tire change of my T7. Thanks Pavlin, keep up the good work and traveling the world!
Happy to help!
Sterring wobl..yes...tyre ..i also did a balamce job and it was the same
Thanks for sharing!
An other thopic agree with you thats only a marketing move how to get more money from people
Very true!
Safari tanks is coming out next week with a 12 gal dakar style tank for the tenere
Okay!
...flashers or flushers? (...) or indicators, turn signals..
Whatever is good to you.
Great video Pavlin. Your insight , knowledge and advice is much appreciated
Glad it was helpful!
Whise words regarding it doesnt Matter which bike you travel
Thanks, man!
Not enough power. No where near enough. Yamaha needs a T9
It is enough to me!
great video
Thanks for the visit!
With a kind of a sentimental value 😂🤙🤙🔥
Well...
Another honest and insightful video. Thank you, Pavlin. I had the exact same issue with my front tire for the first 2 years of riding. I even had it re-balanced several times at my dealership. The only solution was to replace its with a different brand. Problem solved.
I love the idea of the new Tenere. 23L vs 16L… its been 3 years and I have never run out of fuel.
I agree 100% with your philosophy, the bike does not make the adventure…it takes you to where the adventure happens.
@bcbikeracer
Thanks for sharing, Ryan!
Hmmmmm .. so the journey on the bike is not the adventure ? First time I’ve heard that one ☝️
You sound like you secretly envied your neighbors better bike. 😆
If you say so!
If you bought a Tenere today, which one would you buy? Tenere, Tenere Extreme (normal with WR suspension) or World Raid?
Probably Extreme, but definitely not World Raid
@@motorcycleadventures Just ordered Extreme 3 hours ago… Thnx Pavlin!
Good, enjoy it!
Ha! I wondered about that wobble, she’s due her 1st major service and that was on the list. Thank you. Love my bike BTW
Yamaha T 700 off rod bike .25l tank normal!!!
Okay
There is a recall on some tkc 80 for cracking between the knobs from January 19 to 4/22 with a code from the factory it's made in but cannot remember it
Cool review thank you
Two filler cap’s real smart one for 95 octane and one for 98 octane ❓to be earnest the OEM skip plate looks rather ugly and the muffler looks awkward hanging out in the air looking like they forgot it and mounted it in the last moment before release i think your black version are beautiful. so forgett about it and ride safe 👍
Thanks for taking the time!
Excelent video, always opinion based on real life experience... great job Pavlin! 👍🏼👍🏼
You said the T7 weight increased by 16kg (35.27lbs.). That’s a good amount of weight increase for off road riding. I like some of the upgrades but at what cost? Then you add the usual modifications that we do to protect our bikes and that number goes higher. I thought the purpose of the mid-weight adventure bikes was to lighten them up.
Yes, it would be 220kg before the necessary weight like center stand, engine and crash guards, hand guards, and a few more, about 10kg. So it would be 230 before the luggage.
Jesus that's heavy! My 690 smcr weighs 80kg less than that!
It has a different purpose.
The smcr is the same weight as the enduro R, and that has a very similar purpose as the Tenere, 220kg is a ridiculous weight for a 700cc "middle weight" bike. I've come across one of these stuck in a lane in Wales, it was like manoeuvring a beached wale. I'll have a test ride though as I'm often wrong about these things!
Good video, thanks for your educated point of view.
I fully share the idea that a bike is just a tool. I may add that almost any bike may do, if one is willing. There are many around the world travellers using my father's old Vespa. I'm currently having a blast around Italy on Kawa J300 scooter with my wife along. Just enjoy the scenery.
I had a KTM 950 back in 2004, used it for >50,000 kms across Greece and Turkey and never had any issue. The water overflows from the compensation tank if filled above the mark line, my mistake. Otherwise a near perfect bike with AMAZING suspension, even to date.
While I understand your comments on the new World Raid model, there is a fundamental point missing. Real time experience with it. Your opinion is valuable, but it's just based on a "spec sheet" without actually using the bike. Let's just say the jury is still out until you tried the new model and confirm your ideas.
Finally, your comparison/pov on the suspension is based exclusively on the travel. While important it misses a more important element. Quality! Suspension performance have many factors, and while travel excursion is one of them, it misses many others. And for that, one needs to test it and see if it fits.
Again, thanks for your insights.
You can't see what the bike looks like when you are riding so once again Pavlin is correct. It's destination and the ride that matters!!
Always! I hope that many will listen!
I have a similar saying about the cars. All what matters is an instrument cluster, as that's the only thing you see when driving :) The same applies to bikes.
Good video like always! Enjoy the ride 👍🏻
Thanks! Will do!
The changes that they did are good, the bike is more pretty. Some of the changes are simple, like the seat, but make the bike look better.
The price, well, is geting closer to the africa twin everyday!!
So it is wise if you buy a AT instead, i rode one AT and i loved.
For 3 k more you get a faster bike with almost the same weight.
Anyway the bike is more appealing to me, still have the same reliability, and more pretty, i find that amazing.
In the near future i think they gonna change the muffler, and put i high front guard, and maybe a little changes on the design.
At this momment, i have the money to buy one, or an africa twin, but i bought a used KLR 650 from 2002 😅 because i already got a big bike since 2005, a yamaha XJR 1300 to feel the power, with only 22 000 km's.
So instead of paying 12 k or 15 k plus for an africa twin i spent 1800 euros 😅 i love the KLR.
I think the bikes are to expensive on a general level.
But if you don't have nothin, i would buy the T7 or the AT.
I would like the old design of the suzuki DR-Z 400 with an engine of 650cc or the tenere engine.
I like the old look of the 650 cc japanese bikes.
In some countries people are very lucky because they still sell new DR-Z's, DR's, XR's good bikes good quality and more affordable.
For me the DR-Z 650 would be the perfect bike, with 62 hp, electric start, no electronics at all, maybe a good seat.
Well, a yellow XR 650 with electric start.
Buy whatever is good for you man!
well, I have some things to do but I'm still going to watch while I take longer finish my coffee :)
Just a tool? So why do you care so much about what bike you buy?
Because I am spending hard earned money, that's why. It is the same with every tool I buying. It must be affordable, trouble free and practical.
Very nice video with true everywhere....Better than spend money to equip is spend money to ride... btw I had the same problem with tube and tyre wobbling (I changed new front tyre, balanced etc. and still wobbling....)I solved it - it was rear rim - untightened spokes, but looks like its front wheel problem :-)...good job Pavlin as usual, I like your videos at all...cya on the way..
Thanks for sharing!
That thumbnail photo of his contemplation is hilarious
has anyone ever done that in the back of beyond.
I truly enjoy your videos.
I appreciate that!
It is complicated and that is a backward step.
Agree!
owning both models the world raid is a fantastic upgrade, if i could onlykeep one its the raid all the way ,the suspension alone totaly makes it worth it , the extra fuel i hardly feel, i one hundred percent recomend the raid over standerd ,but the standerd bike is still a awsome bike .
Thanks for sharing!
Great bike, but the 220kg with 74hp bothers me a bit. Double tanks are great! One has to look at the fuel lining to see if that is a potential lifesaver. On my DR750Big(29Ltank and 200kg full) I broke one fuel line and could continue the ride by simply cutting it, plugging it, and only using the other half. It needs to be accessible tho, which is easy with that thumper. Now, without crash bars, there was a possibility of losing a tank if you crashed or at least throwing it out of whack. Not a big deal because it was so simple to fix, but scary. I hope Yamaha made a solid design here.
The time will show us!
Excellent video and a fair review..
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sound points. True. But (!), not sure I'd equate Yamaha with KTM engineering! The fact that there were problems with the 950/990's tanks does not mean Yamaha will have made the same errors. I owned both 950S and 990R (both had problems); I've owned 3 KTM enduros (all had problems). I've owned 6 Yamahas (MX and road), none have had problems. I think the Raid looks to be moving in a positive direction and will provide good, cost effective competition for Ducati. But I agree, not much wrong with the standard bike.
Yes, I hope the same but only the time will show us do they have done it right.
Yamaha engine is not a hot KTM one ;) First ride it in order to have better elements of judgement
I am sure that the engineers of Yamaha did a better job.
@@motorcycleadventures And I appreciate you take the time to reply to your channel subscribers and fans 👍
I always do it!
@Pavlin, what about the wind protection? Isnt it alittle better, because for instance of the fat tank?
They say 1.5 cm higher windscreen...
Unless I don't understand how is the suspension travel considered, 230mm (travel) = 23cm for the front and 220mm=22cm for the back. This being said, a A4 paper format has 210 x 297mm which look "a lot". This is the total travel so the "equilibrium" position is the one to consider => after the weight of the bike + rider (+luggage if it's the case) is the one of interest.
Good saying, Pavlin, yes "the bike is just a tool"!
Thanks for taking the time!