Fantastic video. Great to hear from someone directly involved in its development, but who can also articulate the needs of lesser mortals /riders than Rallye experts like yourself.
Thanks a lot Steve!! Happy you liked the video, I hope to bring this summer a video on the proto race bike to show what main modifications we made to make it race ready
Thanks a lot, really appreciate the support!!! Been a long road from working on the floor in my grandparents garage but believe that having to grind has been the biggest luck in my life. Your comment really fills me with joy
Love your work Manuel. You are giving me the inspiration and confidence to get back on my bike having had some major health concerns and not being able to ride for over 6 months . Okay so I do own a ktm 790 adventure R rally. Don’t hold that against me. But our biking spirit is connected . Thank you again for your brilliant channel. Chow Daz
Thanks a lot Darren!! I wish you a speedy recovery and that you get back healthy. I own also a KTM 890R, I am lucky to be working for several manufacturers on development of accessories and I can say each bike has its own character just like us adventure riders so its always important to find the bike that suits your needs and wills best
i could imagine how comfortable it is to ride this bike. it is stable. could reach long distances without having to worry about fuel availability. thank you Manuel for sharing the experience.
Thanks a lot Mark! For now I have no info on USA availability, I think that some will order theirs in Europe and have it shipped to the US. I have no clue how then they can get it homologated in the US
Helluh' Mr. Yamaha speaking, I am currently owning a KTM 1190 R. Once a year at my vacation i take my bike along with some positive thinking and start for a big ride. Coming from the Netherlands i always have to go through Germany. Heading to Sweden/Norway or somewhere to the Balkan. Once i get there i am trying to do a lot offroad. Doing this for almost 30 years. Once in the 4 or 5 years i also am doing a larger trip. Sometimes i am wishing that Germany would not exist.🙈 Not because back in the days my father had a bit of a quarral with them but of the distance you have to ride for passing it. Free time you have to do labour for. So i need a bike that can handle those Autobahn highway as speedy as possible. And also as comfortable as possible. Never have owned cruisecontroll on any of my bikes but it really is on my wishlist. Once the T7 came out i did a demoride as quick as possible. Not long. Maybe for a hour or so. Like new shoes you sometimes you can't be sure about the fitting and how they will grow on you. It is a small bike compaired to the T7. The whole bike did feel so completely different. But this is going to expected for sure. Besides that it was that you could almost feel that the bike was incredible reliable. Maintaining large engines on ships gives you somewhat of a "fingerspitzengefühl" when feeling the engine. And also the vibe and sound that this T7 engine is humming out is incredible. I think with certainty that this engine is one of the most reliable engines ever made for a motorcycle. Apart from the BMW K75. The downside that the T7 had for me was that it is incredible topheavy. And knowing that this becomes even more higher with 40 kg of luggage i decided not to buy the T7. Also a few other minor things like the springs. Back and front. But i knew that in time this was fixable. But to be honest i was so dissapointed with this. It made me almost cry. Cause i instantly knew that this motorcycle is really really reliable. Compairing it with a 1190 R is not really a honest thing to do. But the main reason why i wanted to go to a bike that is more easier to controll while not on the tarmac was not completely satisfied. It would not give me that big advantage. Riding all day offroad is very exhausting. And the bike you are using for this is besides your phisical strenght the biggest factor in this. So i let this T7 pass and simply waited. I am lucky because only at a distance of approximately 35 km'ters there is a very good Yamaha dealer called Gebben Motoren. Bought 3 brandnew bikes at that place. And one of them was the Tenere 660Z. So as soon as it is possible i can do a demoride on your latest model. And i really hope that this World Raid Edition will tick the right boxes better for me. But still there is something that has to go of my chest. And i think that a lot of other (potential) customers feel the same way. Why in heavens-name did you guys not fitted out this World Edition with cruise-controll ? I can understand why Yamaha did not do this with the standard and the Rally model. You want a price for the bike as low as possible. But i really think Yamaha should have integrated cruise-control with their World Edition motorcycle. You really should have done this. I am certain that a lot of potential customers still not are not going to buy it because of the lack of it. For certain people having cruise control is simply a must. Will this be possible as an option delivered by Yamaha in the near future. Or is Yamaha so sure about the future ? That there will be a real shortness for certain electronics ? And that this is the sole reason why Yamaha has taken this root with the T7 ? I would not find it even unwise cause if this would be the case most other brands are in real trouble. And also their customers. Having a bike in their garage with electronic problems that can't be resolved. KTM would have a big problem for instance. I hope that doing a demoride will surprice me completely in a positive way. So positive that it weights the balance for lacking cruice control. With this price it should have had it. Thanks for helping build the T7 World Edition. No thanks if you are the one that did hold back on having cruise control on the T7.🙈 Greetings from the Netherlands,👍👍 (That small country besides Germany and filled with Dutch people who want to pass Germany as quick as possible with the help of cruise control)
Best video of the WR yet. I have a normal T7 with closed cartridges and also the Tractive rear shock. I'm wondering if I should sell my bike and get a WR. Main problem is my height, 170cm. I barely reach the ground on the standard T7 and I travel off-road in tracks like the TET with arround 25kg of luggage on the rear. I find myself having to pass through hard sections with technique and inertia without the possibility of paddling with the legs, cause I would fall down do to not reaching with both legs. It is exhausting.
Thanks so much!!! Personally I believe that riding wise you would feel better agility on the technical section because the weight is better distributed. Height wise more or less its the same as the tanks shape and seat shape lets you move much more on the bike
You can get wider footpegs, rally seat, big bash plate, engine radiator guard, and a lighter agropovic exhaust on the Tenere Rally edition. You can also adjust the Fork rebound, fork compression, and shock compression as well. So the difference with the world raid is even lesser than what people may think.
Fantastic video! I bet that you,Tarrés and Adam Riemann could outsell the combined force of Yamaha dealers in the world, from a shed without Wi-Fi in the middle of the Gobi dessert.
I think the only way to understand it is to test the bike and to do it for at least 300km to be able to adapt the riding. Its always hard to leave something we have been used to be riding for so long but I believe if you try the WR you will really enjoy the riding
What about default rider mass estimates, usual T7 was configured for rider about 75kg weight, lots of users went for aftermarket springs. I am 110kg and would likt to have some luggage too:), should i look for suspension modifications for this model too?
Thanks!!! The reason I believe is that for heavy off-road use the tubeless wheels are bit dangerous because if you get a dent in the rim then the tubeless won't hold the pressure so its more related to the concept Yamaha has of the Tenere for off-road use
Excellent video and honest explanations! One question: is the braket that holds in place the Akra still welded to the frame? All other brands usually have that held in place with a couple screws in case you damage it.
Like you i also want your question being answered. I also hated this on my xt660z. In the Netherlands we have regulations and we are simply told that when your frame breaks (how minor it is) your totall bike is wrecked. And is not allowed to ride anymore. So going offroad is you taking an enormous risc.
@@keesverhagen9227 wow! Ain't that a stupid and immoral law! It reminds me of the era when the Dutch were taxed on the basis of their window size and number (so most houses ended up having small/less or boarded up windows). I guess, Dutch citizens make quite gullible victims for statists/professional politicians (aka parasites). Now they are confiscating your land because of the "climate crisis". There's something very wrong about the Netherlands these days.
If I want to build a RebelX TENERE, like the one you ran in Sardinia, what is the best base for someone to start? The simple one, or the World Raid. Also the Racing bike has a 48 fork. It will be aveliable for the World Raid bike?
I would start for the World Raid for the twin tanks with lower center of gravity and yes a front 48mm fork/triple clamp kit will be available hopefully before end of the year
You talk about replacing the tank/seat of the original T7 with the WR version, but I am actually curious about the display (and I suppose switch gear). Is it possible to swap the two?
Ciao Manuel! As a WR owner who does rallies with it, I have played with suspension settings a lot to tune it to my likings, and i’d be really interested to know how professionals like you set their suspensions! Sei un grande 🤟🏼
great video!! im strugling to choose between used world raid and a new tenere 700... i want to ask you something about the springs from forks. The springs inside the forks of world raid are the same like the standard ones from tenere 700 ???
The World Raid suspensions are different from the standard Ténéré. To choose between one or the other depends a lot on the riding you do, for high speed the World Raid is better as it’s more stable instead for technical enduro style riding probably the standard is better as it’s slimmer between the legs
Perfect video Manuel. This model is pure love. It' s so close to Dakar bike design even more than Tenere Rally version. Btw what is true on news that Yamaha is withrdrawing from Dakar 2023?
Thanks!!!! Yes now Yamaha is going to Africa Race with the Ténéré World Raid new rally team. We raced in Tunisia in April and managed to conquer the win!
Great vid what one ?say it I want to adventure but would also like to do Greenland and light ensure as I'm worried about size and weight of tank for ensure on the world raid
great review! I'm almost ready to get the last 2023 Raid here in southern portugal at a discount! I'm wondering if you have experience with the Tenere World RALLY bike that's come out. I see very little about it. Seems cool but the Raid gets a lot more exposure.
@@Gwiedert buy a set of Acerbis swingarm plastic protectors and make some sort of a spacer to fit the swingarm (between the swingarm and exhaust). Otherwise go for a rally high exhaust and be done with it.
Fantastic, thank you a great video, my Raid is due in June, Bristol (UK) the information you provided was great thank you, my only concern at the moment, because my plan will be to do as much as i can off-road, and i feel the urgency for crash bars and a system like the T7 wrap around protection, is this possible for the raid, or do you feel it is protected enough, my only concern, (on the main Yamaha web they are out of stock) Thank you for all your efforts team well done.
For the WR in the video there are some b-roll shots of a bike with the crashbars installed. Yamaha has it as an official accessory so you can get them from the dealer. But personally at Tunisia Rally we had several crashes and all we damaged was one of the lower external plastics as the lower tank protection is really good
@@ManuelLucchese1 Thank you your very kind reply, i will give some thought about the crash bars, Manuel, one question which concerns me, and this could be for any Adventure bike, fuel filters, i am watching an adventure video of two lads London-Sydney, fantastis journey, ok on KTM, however, it has raised a thought about fuel filters and fuel pumps, its a great chance to be given contaminated fuel, do you know of a fuel filter system??, and how good do you think the WR fuel pump is, on really long months and months constantly on the road, i am now thinking a fuel pump should be taken as a spare, its ok on the WR having bigger tanks 23ltr, but if the fuel is shit, we are fk
Great review a lot to think about as I have a highly modified 2019 T7 is the centre of gravity much lower on the world Raid an my T7 has always felt a bit top heavy? mick
Many thanks for review :-) I do own 1250GSA, but because I would love to develop new off road skills and evolve currently own one, I wish to jump on a smaller machine. T7 World Raid seems to be an interesting option. My question is where I can find yamaha dealer, which allows to take World Raid off road. Greetings from 🇨🇭
Nice review again. Well done! How would you judge on the long-distance capabilities of the new seat? Is it comfortable enough to go on long trips day by day? Or would you recommend any other seat for long distance travel?
The reason is for quicker filling but not only, if it had been a 1 unique big tank with that empty volume what happens is the fuel shakes a lot and the tanks would not breathe enough ending up with vapour lock. So the decision of twin tanks is also for the riding where you don't want a big mass of fuel shaking from one side to the other making riding difficult
@@DB-me3jt the 990/950s had fuel cutoff petcocks below the radiator in order to be able to use 1 tank if the other was damaged. I don't see those in the T7.
i have got a raid its well worth it for the up grades. i have got a high speck T7 as well. the raid feels so much lighter and the stock suspension on the raid is very good. i am keeping both bikes. i think the raid will be a better road bike because the wind protection on your knees and head is so much better. yout knees are sticking out 1inch wider than tanks so every were you can take stock T7 you will take the raid off road. raid is a great bike.
Super interesting to read your feedback, I have the opposite feeling I prefer the WR off-road and the T7 on road. I'm always interested in reading about different point of views, for me the game changer off-road is the fact I feel more stable on the WR.
@@ManuelLucchese1i have not tried raid off road yet only bit of a jump on grass i can tell already its going to be great off road. much more balanced than the stock T7 used that almost three years off road now. but that is set up good. you and pol have done a good job on the raid. we will be just filling tanks half full for our off roading.
Manuel- im looking at adapting my 2023 US T7 to fit the GYTR tanks. Ive looked over the parts diagrams, and so far, I haven't seen anything to make me believe that it isn't possible to do so. Were you stating that the expense isnt worth the hassle or is there something preventing the WR tanks from being installed on a normal T7?
I confirm that the WR frame is different than the normal T7 so the tanks won't fit unfortunately as I have both bikes in the workshop and can confirm it 100% they Don't fit
I was really wanting you to custom build a T7 for myself…now I’m thinking a T7WR for sure! How and when could we make that happen? I’ve been following you for a long time now, I’ve watched every build and every video you’ve put out. It would be super cool to make a one off T7WR with you!
hi great video thanks, I've seen a few but yours was great 👍. I own a t7 '19 and I am planning on to get a high fender, Is the high fender kit from oem raid capable with a standard model? cheers
How much is the difference in seat height of both standard and world raid (forget about numbers - just to have a practical idea) . I can only reach one leg on standard tenere , will I be able to do the same on world raid
Great video, good job on explaining the changes on the tenere world raid. People are saying that you can fill the tank fully just by using one cap filler?
Awesome work on the new T7WR, sick looking bike! Video is straight to the point…now that you have someone that can save it for replay:) Someone lost their job. Anyways, I’m in Canada…any idea when and if we’ll get the new edition?
Tested the world raid a week ago ❤❤❤❤❤❤ i now riding a bmw1200 gs adventure. If i would have the budget i would have switched. But i have to input to much in the change 😢😢😢
Would you guys race enduro with the Rally Raid version? (Filling half tank only) I'm considering to buy it for my enduro trails and long trips. Maybe for some enduro races, I'm no Pol Tarres but im willing to train hard. It looks way too wide for sliding it sideways on a hill climb if I break traction. I like the Idea of not being top heavy anymore.
I really need to know if it's coming to the US. As soon as I get the word, I'll find a nearby dealership to put a deposit on one. I don't know if it's a good idea, but this will be my first Adventure bike. I was just shopping around for a used bike, but after researching what's available in the market for adventure types of bikes and wow, I immediately fell in love with the Yamaha Tenere T7. On my wish/ dream list is to do, go on adventures with some friends of mine from here Texas to Canada, camp along, And experience a long journey on the road sightseeing, etc. This is coming from someone who had no idea about adventure bikes I was looking at some Honda, KTM, BMW, and Suzuki I wasn't even thinking Yamaha, after a few weeks of researching the T7, they announced "Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid" but no news on the US release. After finding out the world rate is coming out, I'm holding off, because I prefer the Yamaha looks and that long-distance tank and the price really set the bar high on my list of purchases, otherwise if there's no news on the release date soon then I'll go with the Honda..
At the moment no info on the release in the US unfortunately. But you could consider to start a standard T7 as I don't think the WR will come to the US this year
So the world raid technically speaking seems to be almost on par with KTM 690 / Husqvarna 701 Enduro (LR). Having done special projects on both platforms which brought you more smiles per gallon off-road?
Somehow i don't buy this, longer suspension travel and steering stabilizer on Raid version were needed to support heavier tank. Still prefer lighter, slimmer standard version for heavy off-road. World Raid is for long distance touring with some gravel road not for racing or enduro. BTW looking what Pol Tarres could do with standard version proves to me I'm right.
@@andrewsoldan6050 what do you mean? Sag should be set up to manufacturer requirements based on suspension travel. The springs in the wr will be heavier to accommodate the additional weight. It’s not an insanely heavy bike, it’s still much lighter than a 990, the benchmark for adventure bikes.
It seems Yamaha is now caught in a Catch-22 by not bringing the World Raid edition here to the USA. Their reason is that the regular Tenere 700 isn't selling well enough - but now it's because guys like me are waiting for the World Raid.
I think we can say for certain that ktm and husq haved showed and proved to us the benefits of low COG via their low slung tanks. What I don't get is why you don't copy that. I think bike would be even better then as it stands today. EDITED: Sorry sorry sorry. I didn't catch that on the video at first, by then you did the side by side with sight line and I saw it. The tank IS lower.
Tanks ok the new KTMs are to low. Haven’t ridden the World Raid yet but they look to be a good middle ground. Only thing that I hope they change on future models is get ride of the double gas caps. That is dumb.
The advantage of having the tanks in a center height position is that when you stick out your leg in turns you don't have too wide out. On the WR they have significantly lowered the fuel height compared to the T7
ABS. Why can't you switch it off with one button and on the move? There's a button but only for switching on. Makes no sense in off-road especially when the ABS is automatically switched on every time you start the engine.
Please ! Please ! Tell to anybody that you know at the YAMAHA corporation marketing team to send it to the CANADIAN market as fast as possible, like : NOW 😉! We are desperate to get the WR up here….! 😩. My Yamaha dealer has a bunch of us hopelessly waiting in line to put our feet on the WORLD RAID pegs. Thanks for your great job on the superb bike 👍. Now Yamaha : please build and ship them like there is no tomorrow… Cheers
@@robsonenduro3316 actually you can win it, with the team we partnered with a charity organization Riders for Health where we plan on giving the official race bike away for charity. Just need to make a 10 euro donation to have the chance to win the bike, all the money then will go to this charity to help doctors in africa
@@michsky46 You cannot imagine the complexity in adapting whatever you have in mind on a specific bike. That's why I urge you to try making one yourself. I once made a carbon/kevlar copy bashplate for my 990 Adventure R and it took me 2 months to get it right. That's for a mere bashplate with a few mounting screw holes and an opening for the cooling of the regulator. The tank has to deal with the frame, engine, electronics, wiring looms, weight distribution, proper ventilation, ergonomics for the rider, expansion, cost and myriads of other parameters which you seem to think they are "easy" to deal with. They are anything BUT easy! In fact every little detail I mention will get you about a year to design properly! They have teams of designers and engineers to deal with these issues and still end up with a compromised end product. Hence, don't be ignorant and arrogant in your demands. Be thankful for wat these people offer or work to make something better and the market will reward you. But complaining from the comfort of your couch is not something admirable and will be met with comments like mine.
@@C_R_O_M________ ktm managed to do one opening. B: u did at home the bashplate but in heavy industry they have laser scamner, and than program to designe this!!!!!
Are the tanks plastic or metal? My T7, riding it when there is less than half of tank of fuel if great. When the fuel tank if full, you feel that weight up top. I never understood why Yamaha would only put a steel 16 litre tank on an adventure bike. It's a poor and lazy design. If someone makes a twin tank design for the standard T7 I feel the tanks will sell. No way in the world would I put on the current after market larger tanks, even more weight up top.
I'm very excited to havve one next year, buuuuuut: -whyyyyyy two caps on the tanks 🤨 they are connected no, so one it's enough. The last version was with a stupide old sryle cap and now with two, Yamaha what is your problem with that 😮💨😮💨😮💨 -Scorpion tiers are not good for off road and send, aaaaaall riders know that, whyyyy still put them, why I do have to spend more mony on changing tiers 😤 - Tuuuuuubless, my god I hate tubes changing them is a night mare 😤😤😤😤😤, ok you will say for off raod is beter and other staff, fine make the rimes tubless then for hard off raod you can put HD tube or bibmosse, but for most of as as normale riders we will never need them d the punctire is easy to repare on a tubless. - Hand gard, my god it's so obvius a bike that gose off raod will hit the ground and fist thing is the handel bare, plaqtic handl bare where is you mind Yamaha 🧐 For profecional riders thay can do anything and sponsors are there, we not every singel cent count to us 😮💨. Not easy to find good parts in Algeria 😢 so I need a bike with all options and easy fix once at all.
Hi all. I will speak to you in all sincerity. I don't get a point of view on a motorcycle by looking at Paul Tarres or you or any other rider on the T 700 Teneré. If you want to confirm the choice of the new T 700 Teneré entrust me with this bike on a long test loaded in solo off-road travel mode. (luggage, tent, tools, etc.) I have had the T 700 Teneré since July 31, 2019. I have a very average driving level. but I mainly use it off road. and often alone. (so no one to help me) Yamaha should have released a new lighter model and there we see "a new" higher heavier motorcycle and off road it is anything but good overweight. the original quality of the shock absorbers is really poor in off road. Yamaha should have thought a little longer about the orientation it wants to give to this bike. I'm not sure what the success of the 1st model is... higher... heavier... more expensive... more more equals fewer customers. See you soon
We actually have been developing the bike for over a year, I think there is no one other than us that has made all the km testing we made. Trust me test it first you will realize suspension has improved and even if it’s heavier it feels lighter as the center of gravity has been lowered. We just won the Tunisia Rally on it I think results speak for themselves
it's not a matter of trust. I don't question your talents as preparers, mechanics and drivers. Are you talking about the future Word raid T 700 Teneré model? Is this motorcycle intended for the general public? yes so once again Yamaha got the wrong voice. It is necessary to seek to lighten the motorcycle and to gain in quality of damping. We must not confuse rally use, which is also prepared according to the terrain and the driver, and general public use. I can assure you that a fallen 220 kg motorcycle like the Word T 700 is more difficult to raise than a 204 kg T 700. it is an indisputable fact. You can do rallies as many times as you want, it won't matter. the motorcycle is rewarding more beautiful but ultimately less effective for general public off-road adventure travel use. It's my point of view.
@@atprodT700 "I can assure you that a fallen 220 kg motorcycle like the Word T 700 is more difficult to raise than a 204 kg T 700." >>No, it isn't! It's a matter of leverage (or lack there off). With the right leverage you can easily lift 300kgs, much easier than 100kgs with no leverage! That's why a lower center of gravity makes a huge difference (if true!).
@@ManuelLucchese1 Yamaha couldn't find better salespeople like you and Pol!)....but honestly, this is iPhone 12 and 13 upgradings....say hello to Pol - you are legends already
@@marekhlina74 I'm looking to have more fuel capacity and I love the 07 engine. Why would I choose a different brand now? I think world raid makes a big difference for buyers who want to travel long distance with a bit more comfort. + if it gives more confidence off road then there is a ton of people who are going to go towards the new one. Nothing to do with I phone 12 13 imo
Fantastic video. Great to hear from someone directly involved in its development, but who can also articulate the needs of lesser mortals /riders than Rallye experts like yourself.
Thanks a lot Steve!! Happy you liked the video, I hope to bring this summer a video on the proto race bike to show what main modifications we made to make it race ready
All I can say is I’ve had the bike for three days the world raid and I am in love with this bike handles amazingly😊😊😊
Super happy to read this, I hope you like as I like it the front end stability of this new bike and comfort
Been a long time subscriber! So happy to see where you are now! Keep grinding hard mate!
Thanks a lot, really appreciate the support!!! Been a long road from working on the floor in my grandparents garage but believe that having to grind has been the biggest luck in my life. Your comment really fills me with joy
Welcome back guy!!!
Thanks!!!!
Love your work Manuel. You are giving me the inspiration and confidence to get back on my bike having had some major health concerns and not being able to ride for over 6 months . Okay so I do own a ktm 790 adventure R rally. Don’t hold that against me. But our biking spirit is connected .
Thank you again for your brilliant channel. Chow Daz
Thanks a lot Darren!! I wish you a speedy recovery and that you get back healthy. I own also a KTM 890R, I am lucky to be working for several manufacturers on development of accessories and I can say each bike has its own character just like us adventure riders so its always important to find the bike that suits your needs and wills best
i could imagine how comfortable it is to ride this bike. it is stable. could reach long distances without having to worry about fuel availability. thank you Manuel for sharing the experience.
That is a MASSIVE amount of Tenere's!!! Thanks for rocking the T7.
Yeah was pretty cool to see them all together, wish I could take one home heheheh
Thank you, amazing video. Answered all the questions I had, and some I didn't realize I had.
Congratulations on your success. Amazing work
Another professional, amazing video! I wonder if/when this new version of the Tenere will come to the USA.
Thanks a lot Mark! For now I have no info on USA availability, I think that some will order theirs in Europe and have it shipped to the US. I have no clue how then they can get it homologated in the US
Helluh' Mr. Yamaha speaking,
I am currently owning a KTM 1190 R. Once a year at my vacation i take my bike along with some positive thinking and start for a big ride. Coming from the Netherlands i always have to go through Germany. Heading to Sweden/Norway or somewhere to the Balkan. Once i get there i am trying to do a lot offroad. Doing this for almost 30 years. Once in the 4 or 5 years i also am doing a larger trip.
Sometimes i am wishing that Germany would not exist.🙈 Not because back in the days my father had a bit of a quarral with them but of the distance you have to ride for passing it. Free time you have to do labour for. So i need a bike that can handle those Autobahn highway as speedy as possible. And also as comfortable as possible. Never have owned cruisecontroll on any of my bikes but it really is on my wishlist.
Once the T7 came out i did a demoride as quick as possible. Not long. Maybe for a hour or so. Like new shoes you sometimes you can't be sure about the fitting and how they will grow on you. It is a small bike compaired to the T7. The whole bike did feel so completely different. But this is going to expected for sure. Besides that it was that you could almost feel that the bike was incredible reliable. Maintaining large engines on ships gives you somewhat of a "fingerspitzengefühl" when feeling the engine.
And also the vibe and sound that this T7 engine is humming out is incredible. I think with certainty that this engine is one of the most reliable engines ever made for a motorcycle. Apart from the BMW K75.
The downside that the T7 had for me was that it is incredible topheavy. And knowing that this becomes even more higher with 40 kg of luggage i decided not to buy the T7. Also a few other minor things like the springs. Back and front. But i knew that in time this was fixable. But to be honest i was so dissapointed with this. It made me almost cry. Cause i instantly knew that this motorcycle is really really reliable. Compairing it with a 1190 R is not really a honest thing to do. But the main reason why i wanted to go to a bike that is more easier to controll while not on the tarmac was not completely satisfied. It would not give me that big advantage.
Riding all day offroad is very exhausting. And the bike you are using for this is besides your phisical strenght the biggest factor in this.
So i let this T7 pass and simply waited. I am lucky because only at a distance of approximately 35 km'ters there is a very good Yamaha dealer called Gebben Motoren. Bought 3 brandnew bikes at that place. And one of them was the Tenere 660Z.
So as soon as it is possible i can do a demoride on your latest model. And i really hope that this World Raid Edition will tick the right boxes better for me.
But still there is something that has to go of my chest. And i think that a lot of other (potential) customers feel the same way.
Why in heavens-name did you guys not fitted out this World Edition with cruise-controll ? I can understand why Yamaha did not do this with the standard and the Rally model. You want a price for the bike as low as possible. But i really think Yamaha should have integrated cruise-control with their World Edition motorcycle. You really should have done this.
I am certain that a lot of potential customers still not are not going to buy it because of the lack of it. For certain people having cruise control is simply a must. Will this be possible as an option delivered by Yamaha in the near future.
Or is Yamaha so sure about the future ? That there will be a real shortness for certain electronics ? And that this is the sole reason why Yamaha has taken this root with the T7 ?
I would not find it even unwise cause if this would be the case most other brands are in real trouble. And also their customers. Having a bike in their garage with electronic problems that can't be resolved. KTM would have a big problem for instance.
I hope that doing a demoride will surprice me completely in a positive way. So positive that it weights the balance for lacking cruice control. With this price it should have had it.
Thanks for helping build the T7 World Edition. No thanks if you are the one that did hold back on having cruise control on the T7.🙈
Greetings from the Netherlands,👍👍
(That small country besides Germany and filled with Dutch people who want to pass Germany as quick as possible with the help of cruise control)
Best video of the WR yet. I have a normal T7 with closed cartridges and also the Tractive rear shock. I'm wondering if I should sell my bike and get a WR.
Main problem is my height, 170cm. I barely reach the ground on the standard T7 and I travel off-road in tracks like the TET with arround 25kg of luggage on the rear. I find myself having to pass through hard sections with technique and inertia without the possibility of paddling with the legs, cause I would fall down do to not reaching with both legs. It is exhausting.
Same here… I’m 1.72 and wonder if I could touch the ground.
Thanks so much!!! Personally I believe that riding wise you would feel better agility on the technical section because the weight is better distributed. Height wise more or less its the same as the tanks shape and seat shape lets you move much more on the bike
Greetings from Texas, USA ! Just bought a T700, we can’t get the Raid here, yet . Enjoyed your thoughts comparing the two bikes.
Great job guys, well done. Just love it. Own Tenere 700 , will buy next one Raid Edition, love these bikes.
You can get wider footpegs, rally seat, big bash plate, engine radiator guard, and a lighter agropovic exhaust on the Tenere Rally edition. You can also adjust the Fork rebound, fork compression, and shock compression as well. So the difference with the world raid is even lesser than what people may think.
Right,
Where can one find the full rear tank you are using? I'm not talking about the regular left side camel tank. I have googled it in vain.
@@DakarBlues Don't ask below my comment . I dont have the answer. Make a new question under the video if you're asking the owner of the video
Great honest explanation, Manuel. Well done 👏👏👏
Fantastic video! I bet that you,Tarrés and Adam Riemann could outsell the combined force of Yamaha dealers in the world, from a shed without Wi-Fi in the middle of the Gobi dessert.
A worthy replacement of a ktm 990s with 265mm suspension? I ride fast flowy gravel roads quite a bit with enduro front tire and desert rear.
I think the only way to understand it is to test the bike and to do it for at least 300km to be able to adapt the riding. Its always hard to leave something we have been used to be riding for so long but I believe if you try the WR you will really enjoy the riding
@@ManuelLucchese1 Thx, for the response 💪
It should be a bit lighter than the 990. I'd also love to have the 295mm Boano 48mm forks to test it with.
Thanks, man. Really appreciate your review!!
Thanks!!!
My only question is.... when will this model be available to the US market?
I was wondering the same thing, please let me know if you find out.
What about default rider mass estimates, usual T7 was configured for rider about 75kg weight, lots of users went for aftermarket springs. I am 110kg and would likt to have some luggage too:), should i look for suspension modifications for this model too?
Of course! That's actually a silly question as all bikes have the average human in mind. I'm 120kg, 2.06m btw.
When will the Tenere world raid be available in the USA?
Tough question I really have no clue
Love my World Raid, it handles a lot better than my standard T7 which I’ve now now sold.
Great video! Much ❤ from 🇨🇦
Great Video. Only one thing that I still don't get. Why haven't you gone with Tubeless wheels and tyres?
Thanks!!! The reason I believe is that for heavy off-road use the tubeless wheels are bit dangerous because if you get a dent in the rim then the tubeless won't hold the pressure so its more related to the concept Yamaha has of the Tenere for off-road use
Excellent video and honest explanations! One question: is the braket that holds in place the Akra still welded to the frame? All other brands usually have that held in place with a couple screws in case you damage it.
Like you i also want your question being answered. I also hated this on my xt660z. In the Netherlands we have regulations and we are simply told that when your frame breaks (how minor it is) your totall bike is wrecked. And is not allowed to ride anymore.
So going offroad is you taking an enormous risc.
@@keesverhagen9227 wow! Ain't that a stupid and immoral law! It reminds me of the era when the Dutch were taxed on the basis of their window size and number (so most houses ended up having small/less or boarded up windows). I guess, Dutch citizens make quite gullible victims for statists/professional politicians (aka parasites). Now they are confiscating your land because of the "climate crisis". There's something very wrong about the Netherlands these days.
Great video. Just a couple of question. Why wasn’t easy pull clutch installed and better rear break as standard?
If I want to build a RebelX TENERE, like the one you ran in Sardinia, what is the best base for someone to start?
The simple one, or the World Raid.
Also the Racing bike has a 48 fork. It will be aveliable for the World Raid bike?
I would start for the World Raid for the twin tanks with lower center of gravity and yes a front 48mm fork/triple clamp kit will be available hopefully before end of the year
You talk about replacing the tank/seat of the original T7 with the WR version, but I am actually curious about the display (and I suppose switch gear). Is it possible to swap the two?
Everything is possible but you would need to get the whole wiring harness of the WR together with the display and handlebar commands.
Geat news. When will it come to USA?
Unfortunately I have no clue
Ciao Manuel!
As a WR owner who does rallies with it, I have played with suspension settings a lot to tune it to my likings, and i’d be really interested to know how professionals like you set their suspensions! Sei un grande 🤟🏼
Excellent review!
great video!! im strugling to choose between used world raid and a new tenere 700...
i want to ask you something about the springs from forks.
The springs inside the forks of world raid are the same like the standard ones from tenere 700 ???
The World Raid suspensions are different from the standard Ténéré. To choose between one or the other depends a lot on the riding you do, for high speed the World Raid is better as it’s more stable instead for technical enduro style riding probably the standard is better as it’s slimmer between the legs
Perfect video Manuel. This model is pure love. It' s so close to Dakar bike design even more than Tenere Rally version. Btw what is true on news that Yamaha is withrdrawing from Dakar 2023?
Thanks!!!! Yes now Yamaha is going to Africa Race with the Ténéré World Raid new rally team. We raced in Tunisia in April and managed to conquer the win!
Great vid what one ?say it I want to adventure but would also like to do Greenland and light ensure as I'm worried about size and weight of tank for ensure on the world raid
great review! I'm almost ready to get the last 2023 Raid here in southern portugal at a discount! I'm wondering if you have experience with the Tenere World RALLY bike that's come out. I see very little about it. Seems cool but the Raid gets a lot more exposure.
Awesome build. Where can one find the full rear tank you are using? I'm not talking about the regular left side camel tank. I have googled it in vain.
When are your radiator flexible hoses available on the website?
Next month being released in Red, Blue or Yellow!
Did you try Transalp 750 with better suspension?
You think is good as tenere world raid?
looking forward to your version of world raid....
Thanks!!! I can't wait to start building custom World Raid bikes other than the official team ones we made
It's too bad they didn't fix the exhaust mount...
Many wished for it, personally I never had issues on my standard T7
@@ManuelLucchese1 I had to bent it back away from the swingarm for a number of times...
@@Gwiedert buy a set of Acerbis swingarm plastic protectors and make some sort of a spacer to fit the swingarm (between the swingarm and exhaust). Otherwise go for a rally high exhaust and be done with it.
Mind boggling isn't it 😢
Fantastic, thank you a great video, my Raid is due in June, Bristol (UK) the information you provided was great thank you, my only concern at the moment, because my plan will be to do as much as i can off-road, and i feel the urgency for crash bars and a system like the T7 wrap around protection, is this possible for the raid, or do you feel it is protected enough, my only concern, (on the main Yamaha web they are out of stock) Thank you for all your efforts team well done.
For the WR in the video there are some b-roll shots of a bike with the crashbars installed. Yamaha has it as an official accessory so you can get them from the dealer. But personally at Tunisia Rally we had several crashes and all we damaged was one of the lower external plastics as the lower tank protection is really good
@@ManuelLucchese1 Thank you your very kind reply, i will give some thought about the crash bars, Manuel, one question which concerns me, and this could be for any Adventure bike, fuel filters, i am watching an adventure video of two lads London-Sydney, fantastis journey, ok on KTM, however, it has raised a thought about fuel filters and fuel pumps, its a great chance to be given contaminated fuel, do you know of a fuel filter system??, and how good do you think the WR fuel pump is, on really long months and months constantly on the road, i am now thinking a fuel pump should be taken as a spare, its ok on the WR having bigger tanks 23ltr, but if the fuel is shit, we are fk
Great review a lot to think about as I have a highly modified 2019 T7 is the centre of gravity much lower on the world Raid an my T7 has always felt a bit top heavy?
mick
Thanks for all infos and review about this new monster. I end up bying one. I went to try one,and that end up with me buying the same.
Many thanks for review :-)
I do own 1250GSA, but because I would love to develop new off road skills and evolve currently own one, I wish to jump on a smaller machine. T7 World Raid seems to be an interesting option. My question is where I can find yamaha dealer, which allows to take World Raid off road. Greetings from 🇨🇭
Great video and recap... Will someone please tell me when this bike will be in North America?
Thanks!!!! I wish I knew, so many people wanting it in the US, for now only solution (expensive) is to buy one in Europe and ship it to the US
el depósito molesta en las rodillas al ir sentado?
Nice review again. Well done!
How would you judge on the long-distance capabilities of the new seat? Is it comfortable enough to go on long trips day by day? Or would you recommend any other seat for long distance travel?
If the two fuel tanks are linked via one fuel-pump, then why bother with having two fuel filler caps? Looks Cool? Costs more!? Any good reason?
It’s probably just a small link that would not communicate fast enough while fueling up with one filler cap. Same as the KTM 950/990
The reason is for quicker filling but not only, if it had been a 1 unique big tank with that empty volume what happens is the fuel shakes a lot and the tanks would not breathe enough ending up with vapour lock. So the decision of twin tanks is also for the riding where you don't want a big mass of fuel shaking from one side to the other making riding difficult
@@DB-me3jt the 990/950s had fuel cutoff petcocks below the radiator in order to be able to use 1 tank if the other was damaged. I don't see those in the T7.
i have got a raid its well worth it for the up grades. i have got a high speck T7 as well. the raid feels so much lighter and the stock suspension on the raid is very good. i am keeping both bikes. i think the raid will be a better road bike because the wind protection on your knees and head is so much better. yout knees are sticking out 1inch wider than tanks so every were you can take stock T7 you will take the raid off road. raid is a great bike.
Super interesting to read your feedback, I have the opposite feeling I prefer the WR off-road and the T7 on road. I'm always interested in reading about different point of views, for me the game changer off-road is the fact I feel more stable on the WR.
@@ManuelLucchese1i have not tried raid off road yet only bit of a jump on grass i can tell already its going to be great off road. much more balanced than the stock T7 used that almost three years off road now. but that is set up good. you and pol have done a good job on the raid. we will be just filling tanks half full for our off roading.
Nice video thanks. I bought T7 world raid.I had T7 rally edition before.WR is diffirent bike than T7 rally. The suspension amazing. I'm happy 😊
Manuel- im looking at adapting my 2023 US T7 to fit the GYTR tanks. Ive looked over the parts diagrams, and so far, I haven't seen anything to make me believe that it isn't possible to do so.
Were you stating that the expense isnt worth the hassle or is there something preventing the WR tanks from being installed on a normal T7?
I confirm that the WR frame is different than the normal T7 so the tanks won't fit unfortunately as I have both bikes in the workshop and can confirm it 100% they Don't fit
@@ManuelLucchese1 That's a bummer on me end, wonder what is different about the frames.
@@longbow0728 safari tanks makes a very interesting option of 2 rally gas tanks. better thank gytr.
@ GYTR tanks won’t work on the USDM or regular T7s. I wish someone would make a 5-6 gallon tank similar to the 890.
When will you sell the seat of the world raid !? Best wishes from 🇦🇹
Any changes planned to infamous exaust and muffler?
No for the moment the exhaust is identical to the T7, on my personal T7 I run an Akrapovic
Doesn't the Africa twin have touch functionality on the display?
Hi Manuel, what do you think is the best between std or raid for daily commute and some adventure rally event (hat, swank rally ect..) ? Great review!
Looks much more like my XT660Z in styling. Pick mine up next week.🏴🏴
I was really wanting you to custom build a T7 for myself…now I’m thinking a T7WR for sure! How and when could we make that happen? I’ve been following you for a long time now, I’ve watched every build and every video you’ve put out. It would be super cool to make a one off T7WR with you!
hi great video thanks, I've seen a few but yours was great 👍.
I own a t7 '19 and I am planning on to get a high fender, Is the high fender kit from oem raid capable with a standard model?
cheers
YThanks!!! es I confirm you that you will be able to mount the Yamaha high fender accessory on the standard T7
@@ManuelLucchese1 thanks
keep on making great videos, I really like your work and what you build 👍.
cheers and keep on building 🤘
How do we get those LED turn signals in the States?
How much is the difference in seat height of both standard and world raid (forget about numbers - just to have a practical idea) . I can only reach one leg on standard tenere , will I be able to do the same on world raid
More or less the height is the same due to the shape of the tank, I am sure you won't feel much difference
@@ManuelLucchese1 thank you 😊
Great video, good job on explaining the changes on the tenere world raid.
People are saying that you can fill the tank fully just by using one cap filler?
Has the bike changed in the ability to lift it after a fall? Still top heavy etc?
Should be easier because of the lower center of gravity, even with the extended capacity imo
It feel a bit easier as the fuel is lower down. Still if you have full tanks it will take a bit of power lifting skills :P
I want to when when and if we can get the world raid in the US
Unfortunately I don't have an idea of when and if it will come to the US :(
@@ManuelLucchese1 I think those of us thar are lucky enough just to get a standard tenere 700 should have first Crack at the world raid 😀 😉
quando farai i componenti speciali per la Tenerezza World Raid?
cool video - more please
Awesome work on the new T7WR, sick looking bike! Video is straight to the point…now that you have someone that can save it for replay:) Someone lost their job. Anyways, I’m in Canada…any idea when and if we’ll get the new edition?
Tested the world raid a week ago ❤❤❤❤❤❤ i now riding a bmw1200 gs adventure. If i would have the budget i would have switched. But i have to input to much in the change 😢😢😢
Are you planning to produce an "adventure lite kit" like you did for the normal T7?
Yes, obviously already designed many parts and accessories for this bike that will see the light hopefully soon
Would you guys race enduro with the Rally Raid version? (Filling half tank only) I'm considering to buy it for my enduro trails and long trips. Maybe for some enduro races, I'm no Pol Tarres but im willing to train hard. It looks way too wide for sliding it sideways on a hill climb if I break traction. I like the Idea of not being top heavy anymore.
Does this model have tubeless tires ?
Would be great to do a light build with a road book or eroadbook
It would be super cool to get the WR in the USA, Yamaha...
I really need to know if it's coming to the US.
As soon as I get the word, I'll find a nearby dealership to put a deposit on one.
I don't know if it's a good idea, but this will be my first Adventure bike.
I was just shopping around for a used bike, but after researching what's available in the market for adventure types of bikes and wow, I immediately fell in love with the Yamaha Tenere T7.
On my wish/ dream list is to do, go on adventures with some friends of mine from here Texas to Canada, camp along, And experience a long journey on the road sightseeing, etc.
This is coming from someone who had no idea about adventure bikes I was looking at some Honda, KTM, BMW, and Suzuki I wasn't even thinking Yamaha, after a few weeks of researching the T7, they announced "Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid" but no news on the US release.
After finding out the world rate is coming out, I'm holding off, because I prefer the Yamaha looks and that long-distance tank and the price really set the bar high on my list of purchases, otherwise if there's no news on the release date soon then I'll go with the Honda..
At the moment no info on the release in the US unfortunately. But you could consider to start a standard T7 as I don't think the WR will come to the US this year
So the world raid technically speaking seems to be almost on par with KTM 690 / Husqvarna 701 Enduro (LR).
Having done special projects on both platforms which brought you more smiles per gallon off-road?
please do a one-on-one comparison with Honda ADV750
I hope the world raid is coming to America for 2025 🙏 i need this bike !
Do you feel that this bike can be a tourer?
I hope the World Raid comes to Asia... I'm waiting for some good news though...
I cross fingers it gets shipped worldwide as its a great bike to ride
I use my Husqvarna 701 as an adventure bike, I was thinking I need a rally kit for it but maybe I need the T7 WR instead.
Somehow i don't buy this, longer suspension travel and steering stabilizer on Raid version were needed to support heavier tank. Still prefer lighter, slimmer standard version for heavy off-road. World Raid is for long distance touring with some gravel road not for racing or enduro. BTW looking what Pol Tarres could do with standard version proves to me I'm right.
Pol Tarres is a professional riding around a handicap. More suspension travel and a stabiliser will vastly improve handling for most riders.
@@khakimzhanmiras nope, longer suspension will be eaten by heavier bike.
@@andrewsoldan6050 what do you mean? Sag should be set up to manufacturer requirements based on suspension travel. The springs in the wr will be heavier to accommodate the additional weight.
It’s not an insanely heavy bike, it’s still much lighter than a 990, the benchmark for adventure bikes.
It seems Yamaha is now caught in a Catch-22 by not bringing the World Raid edition here to the USA. Their reason is that the regular Tenere 700 isn't selling well enough - but now it's because guys like me are waiting for the World Raid.
I want one too, but I was told limits out of where they are built keeps WR out of US.
Who sells WR footpegs?
I'll be honest, not sure if I want to trade my Tenere for a WR... So far it's handling everything I throw at it and eating it with gusto
Make it send to canada 🇨🇦 People need this here
tks for the vídeo...bug hug
I have the World Raid and I love it! The stock exhaust is way too heavy and needs to be replaced. Everything else is awesome.
...amd still in the wrong place. I would also expect a small hp increase just to be a little more competitive in the 700cc niche.
I think we can say for certain that ktm and husq haved showed and proved to us the benefits of low COG via their low slung tanks. What I don't get is why you don't copy that. I think bike would be even better then as it stands today. EDITED: Sorry sorry sorry. I didn't catch that on the video at first, by then you did the side by side with sight line and I saw it. The tank IS lower.
Tanks ok the new KTMs are to low. Haven’t ridden the World Raid yet but they look to be a good middle ground. Only thing that I hope they change on future models is get ride of the double gas caps. That is dumb.
The advantage of having the tanks in a center height position is that when you stick out your leg in turns you don't have too wide out. On the WR they have significantly lowered the fuel height compared to the T7
@@ManuelLucchese1 and that is exactly my issue with the new KTM adventure bikes. They just don’t have the “dirtbike” feel that the T7 has.
ABS. Why can't you switch it off with one button and on the move?
There's a button but only for switching on.
Makes no sense in off-road especially when the ABS is automatically switched on every time you start the engine.
Please ! Please ! Tell to anybody that you know at the YAMAHA corporation marketing team to send it to the CANADIAN market as fast as possible, like : NOW 😉! We are desperate to get the WR up here….! 😩. My Yamaha dealer has a bunch of us hopelessly waiting in line to put our feet on the WORLD RAID pegs. Thanks for your great job on the superb bike 👍. Now Yamaha : please build and ship them like there is no tomorrow… Cheers
Is it weird if I’m uncomfortable with how close he’s standing next to the other dude?
I hope the World Raid comes to the USA.
💯🔝💯 👏😎
We need a tenere weighing 180kg wet not 220 kg...
Our Ténéré World Raid race bike infact has a weight of 180kg :)
@@ManuelLucchese1 can I have it? ;)
@@robsonenduro3316 actually you can win it, with the team we partnered with a charity organization Riders for Health where we plan on giving the official race bike away for charity. Just need to make a 10 euro donation to have the chance to win the bike, all the money then will go to this charity to help doctors in africa
180kg wet? Can you make the video how to make the bike lighter?
@@digitalkovik it would be a video too long hehehe can’t reveal all the secrets :p
just ridiculous is the double cap fuealing! why not one?
Make one yourself! See how easy it is to do so! (laughing already).
@@C_R_O_M________ ktm sorted out
@@michsky46 You cannot imagine the complexity in adapting whatever you have in mind on a specific bike.
That's why I urge you to try making one yourself.
I once made a carbon/kevlar copy bashplate for my 990 Adventure R and it took me 2 months to get it right.
That's for a mere bashplate with a few mounting screw holes and an opening for the cooling of the regulator.
The tank has to deal with the frame, engine, electronics, wiring looms, weight distribution, proper ventilation, ergonomics for the rider, expansion, cost and myriads of other parameters which you seem to think they are "easy" to deal with.
They are anything BUT easy!
In fact every little detail I mention will get you about a year to design properly!
They have teams of designers and engineers to deal with these issues and still end up with a compromised end product. Hence, don't be ignorant and arrogant in your demands. Be thankful for wat these people offer or work to make something better and the market will reward you.
But complaining from the comfort of your couch is not something admirable and will be met with comments like mine.
@@C_R_O_M________ ktm managed to do one opening. B: u did at home the bashplate but in heavy industry they have laser scamner, and than program to designe this!!!!!
Well, we can’t get in America still two years later so just give me the bill sheet and I guess I’ll drop another $3000 into it
Are the tanks plastic or metal? My T7, riding it when there is less than half of tank of fuel if great. When the fuel tank if full, you feel that weight up top. I never understood why Yamaha would only put a steel 16 litre tank on an adventure bike. It's a poor and lazy design. If someone makes a twin tank design for the standard T7 I feel the tanks will sell. No way in the world would I put on the current after market larger tanks, even more weight up top.
The tanks are in a sort of nylon plastic
I'm very excited to havve one next year, buuuuuut:
-whyyyyyy two caps on the tanks 🤨 they are connected no, so one it's enough. The last version was with a stupide old sryle cap and now with two, Yamaha what is your problem with that 😮💨😮💨😮💨
-Scorpion tiers are not good for off road and send, aaaaaall riders know that, whyyyy still put them, why I do have to spend more mony on changing tiers 😤
- Tuuuuuubless, my god I hate tubes changing them is a night mare 😤😤😤😤😤, ok you will say for off raod is beter and other staff, fine make the rimes tubless then for hard off raod you can put HD tube or bibmosse, but for most of as as normale riders we will never need them d the punctire is easy to repare on a tubless.
- Hand gard, my god it's so obvius a bike that gose off raod will hit the ground and fist thing is the handel bare, plaqtic handl bare where is you mind Yamaha 🧐
For profecional riders thay can do anything and sponsors are there, we not every singel cent count to us 😮💨. Not easy to find good parts in Algeria 😢 so I need a bike with all options and easy fix once at all.
Hi all. I will speak to you in all sincerity.
I don't get a point of view on a motorcycle by looking at Paul Tarres or you or any other rider on the T 700 Teneré.
If you want to confirm the choice of the new T 700 Teneré entrust me with this bike on a long test loaded in solo off-road travel mode. (luggage, tent, tools, etc.)
I have had the T 700 Teneré since July 31, 2019. I have a very average driving level. but I mainly use it off road. and often alone. (so no one to help me)
Yamaha should have released a new lighter model and there we see "a new" higher heavier motorcycle and off road it is anything but good overweight. the original quality of the shock absorbers is really poor in off road. Yamaha should have thought a little longer about the orientation it wants to give to this bike.
I'm not sure what the success of the 1st model is... higher... heavier... more expensive... more more equals fewer customers.
See you soon
We actually have been developing the bike for over a year, I think there is no one other than us that has made all the km testing we made. Trust me test it first you will realize suspension has improved and even if it’s heavier it feels lighter as the center of gravity has been lowered. We just won the Tunisia Rally on it I think results speak for themselves
it's not a matter of trust. I don't question your talents as preparers, mechanics and drivers. Are you talking about the future Word raid T 700 Teneré model?
Is this motorcycle intended for the general public? yes
so once again Yamaha got the wrong voice. It is necessary to seek to lighten the motorcycle and to gain in quality of damping.
We must not confuse rally use, which is also prepared according to the terrain and the driver, and general public use.
I can assure you that a fallen 220 kg motorcycle like the Word T 700 is more difficult to raise than a 204 kg T 700. it is an indisputable fact. You can do rallies as many times as you want, it won't matter. the motorcycle is rewarding more beautiful but ultimately less effective for general public off-road adventure travel use.
It's my point of view.
@@atprodT700 "I can assure you that a fallen 220 kg motorcycle like the Word T 700 is more difficult to raise than a 204 kg T 700."
>>No, it isn't! It's a matter of leverage (or lack there off). With the right leverage you can easily lift 300kgs, much easier than 100kgs with no leverage! That's why a lower center of gravity makes a huge difference (if true!).
hype....for 99,2% of riders is a standard one as good as the raid model and saving 3k is BIG DEAL
The difference on the front end feeling when offroad is really big, my advise is to test one because I’m sure you would change your mind
@@ManuelLucchese1 Yamaha couldn't find better salespeople like you and Pol!)....but honestly, this is iPhone 12 and 13 upgradings....say hello to Pol - you are legends already
@@marekhlina74 I'm looking to have more fuel capacity and I love the 07 engine. Why would I choose a different brand now? I think world raid makes a big difference for buyers who want to travel long distance with a bit more comfort. + if it gives more confidence off road then there is a ton of people who are going to go towards the new one. Nothing to do with I phone 12 13 imo