what I love about that namor positioning example is that namor doesn't have all that much mobility and he really doesn't want to use his bubble just to get up to a vantage spot. If you know the map, this doesn't matter nearly as much as you think. Even on maps without jump pads a lot of sloped walls/cover can get you up to vantage spots and sometimes you can break things to get you up to a spot and very few people will expect you to be there
@horg7203 honestly examples like these really help. I saw a namor do this exact thing in comp (same map) and was confused how he got there, wouldn't mind seeing more positioning examples like this
Hey… everybody… you notice how in higher levels strategists aren’t as focused on healing? Their teammates actually know how to use cover and find health packs WHAT A CONCEPT GUYS
@@hype876 do you play any supports ?? In general, in bronze, if you can play something like Cloak and Dagger well or Mantis, you will solo carry your team !
@horg7203 you know what’s crazy ? I honestly started doing that earlier. But I tend to switch off and try to the balance where we lack. Mantis is my best hero at the moment. I’m pretty good and healing and slaying with her. Thanks for the advice !
From Calcharo gigachad to Magneto gigachad!! Haha. I didn't know you could escape from Jeff ult walling the line of sight from the center (if i understood well). Can't wait to try it. Thank you for your extremely valuable tips.
How do you climb if you get a team that doesn’t know what they’re doing, supports want to dps with their characters and no one has a mic? Because I tend to get grouped up with these ppl a lot and it’s frustrating
You could try making friends woth some Rivals players and queueing with them. I know socializing isn't what a lot want or can do but if you can I'd recommend it. For purely in the match itself try to figure out what is the least worst option. If the dps sucks is it worth going dps and having less tank or healer? Or can you ask people to trade roles?
I always solo queue and never like using a mic personally, I get the benefits but personally it's way too distracting and kinda makes you stress more in situations if it's ranked. So I prefer to mute everything and do my thing
@@braytenhawkinson firstly : this is a tough situation for sure BUT, this is exactly what I did on my main account. I specifically turn off voice chat because I don’t want to subject myself to verbal abuse and constant griefing. I just focus on my game. Over many games, statistically, if you make fewer and fewer mistakes AND you make more and more actively good decisions/plays you will compensate for your team’s incompetence !
@@horg7203 I don't think I am a bad player and I always try to fill up the tank and support role. But bronze and silver is really driving me crazy. I get 3 or 4 duelist every game and they are all really bad. I don't think I am good enough to make a difference. I can get like 7 losing streaks which is so one sided.
i love how Asmon always blame the healer like he entitle to be heal 24-7. Then the dude run into front line like a tank using Punisher cause he need to get a few kills =.= or go off grid and expect healer to know where he is.
@@darshio8307 yes! Go to the practice mode and run down below and set the parameters. I have a Spider-Man guide on this channel that shows you how halfway through the video! Hope this helps!
@@nimrod98 nice! Thank you for the support! And yes : use the bubble! Wolverine won’t do much to you if you bubble either before his grab or even after. Your healers have to be alert though and get on you right away. At that stage you can punish the Wolverine
Asmon isnt that bad, also he's been gold 1 im like 99% sure, could be wrong. But hovers down to gold 3. he gets great overall DPS value, but punisher struggles to execute. Just how it is. The one thing he needs to do actually though, is stop queing once he loses like 3 in a row. Puts you into a wierd losers que, where if you check history of enemy/team you'll notice your WHOLE team has been on a losing streak, and enemy team has been on a winning streak. Essentially, its in a "test" phase, trying to see if you can carry. This is pretty confirmed too. I just wait a hour or so after i lose 2-3 in a row, and que again. Its reset. Alot of people have done it. Punisher, Winter Soldier,wolverine (2 of his most picks i think?) all 3 not very self-carry, since theyre more about sustained damage, and soldier is high value because of 1v1, and peeling. Both things in gold you dont really need to do, he can definetly get some better angles like holding high ground, doing min-flanks. But really he needs to pick a better carry hero, like Hela, Hawk, he could play Wolverine (Since he seems to like him) but until very consistent, he's more of a counter pick. He could hard carry as Thor too if he learned him. he should focus on like 2 DPS characters (if he wants to main dps) But know how to play 1 tank really well. Im only GM3 atm, and i hover down into diamond so im not the best . But thats how i carried out of the lower ranks. fuck learning healer its pussy boy
@@Telarius hahaha absolutely, I am of course just having a bit of a laugh based on his little rant. To be honest we all feel that way some days when our teammates decide they’re spiderman and Wolverine main because they watched a couple of TH-cam videos !!
Can you elaborate more on this mechanic? I get like 6 to 7 losing streaks in a row it is ridiculous. I am not sure what kind of design is this because the matchmaking seem to be broken. I solo queue.
@horg7203 This may seem like a average conspiracy theorist (im mad)rant, but it'd actually the truth. This game has been datamined for having hidden mmr. Which isn't uncommon. But you need to ask what is hidden mmr made for? Mmr is your buffer, if you win, you win more if you lose you lose harder (in terms of streaks and points losts/gained, it also cushions. HMMR only exists for the pseudo placement system, a 3rd match making number to find partners. It's not a feeling, and is verifiable if you just start looking at lose streak teammates, and opponents history. But the game files directly send your listed hidden mmr, this is super common. Nearly all games have hidden mmr. But this game has it tweaked and cranked all the way in terms of quest-ques. When it peudo wants to place you. People have different guesses as to why, but it's most likely because they have no base-placement matches. Placement matches essentially do exactly what these questioning ques do, which allows you to reduce the amount of them after they're completed. But this game has no placements of course. Just raw CR, MMR, HMMR. There's some sources about this if you're interested, it's not too complicated. Definetly it started as a hunch for people though which lead to digging into their mmr system.
@@horg7203 Depending on the map, if it is capturing I would play Peni Parker as I like to set traps at the nearby doorway and she is good at holding down a position. If it is escort, I would use Strange or Luna Snow if we need a healer. I always try my best to fill up the last needed slot but I always end up with at least 3 or 4 duelists who underperforms. It is beyond frustrating. I alway solo queue in MOBA games and climb ranks easily.
Those are surely helpful tips. I learned a lot. I have 77.9% win rate, and I hit Grandmaster in 66 comp matches. Even though I consider myself equal to you in terms of skill, this video still helps!
Great video, for a beginner learning dps what’s a good hero pool for a psylocke main in your opinion, i also play mantis/luna and magneto/strange when I have to flex
@@Jonap2001 psylocke is great in almost any team comp! You can practice the 1 burst combo in conquest mode as well just to become mechanically proficient
You can do all this and more but you don't rank up until you stop getting 5 monkeys in your team. You endup in a team with 5 dps 😂 what you doing to do? Play Tank or support? You need 2 of each 😂 Best is that you don't even get to keep the 5 monkeys... 1 or 2 will dc or rage qute in the middle of the match. There are so many TH-camrs making videos like this to get views. Most if not all of them rank up to GM with friends than makes videos saying how I got GM by soloing all the why to GM like a ret***d.
if just more people watched videos like these..... problem is 90% of players are like asmongold you showed in the beginning.... they dont think, have hoeriboe positioning... never use natural cover just soak dmg, dont know how to manage their cooldowns or understand space control.... they stay in the middle of the open and then blame every else and make tons of posts on reddit how devs should change this or that because this or that is overpowered.... i hope devs never listen to these low rank players because for example players like this demand role queue and we all know what it does to a game.... i am currently diamond slowly going to GM... and every game i lose i think to myself what could i do better myself to help my team win, maybe to take objective, maybe to kill that black panther that harassing the bakcline..... after 150 hours i dont think there is any hero overpowered... game is amazing people just need to learn to adjust... im not gonna take 1v1 against hela on long range as Magik.... but bronze player does and then bitch about the healers and how Hela is OP..... and yeah you see these type of players in Diamond too and you just know they are boosted.... hopefully devs are smarter and not gonna listen to bunch of bronze players complain and then start balancing things..
@@gamingink1252 that’s my alt account, you can look up my main which is also shown in the beggining. That clip is from my alt account which you can also verify because the name is obviously not hoRg. Due to the ranked system, I cannot play with my friends as GM if they are not at least diamond. Alt account is therefore necessary for us to enjoy the game together. Thank you for your very thorough detective work Sherlock Holmes.
All these videos are informative but stupid in the end. Because u r not tackling the only true problem. Which is STOMPING. And my team get stomped in 80 percent of the game I play. Which means no matter what I do the other team is wiping us all. We cant do kills. We cant move. Nothing is happening. So ur advices are good for the few balanced match, but modt of the time it s just a mess. Disgusting.
@@dgeci this is a great point. I’m going to post an example of this playing with my friend on my alt account. It is absolutely addressable!! I’ll post the match this week with explanations
what this game needs if it wants to have any kind of truely comp mode is a roll que -- its the most asked for in any shooter, moba, Role shooter. No clue why they think its okay to release without one..... You cant rank up and be consistent when youre changing characters every game.
its been lotto for me. last night i deranked twice and got it all back in the span of 2 hours. some times it feels like it doesnt matter what i do.
what I love about that namor positioning example is that namor doesn't have all that much mobility and he really doesn't want to use his bubble just to get up to a vantage spot. If you know the map, this doesn't matter nearly as much as you think. Even on maps without jump pads a lot of sloped walls/cover can get you up to vantage spots and sometimes you can break things to get you up to a spot and very few people will expect you to be there
Funny that you say that when most Diamond+ use it to get to positions on higher altitudes.
@@imanevilpairofsocks exactly ! This is why I specifically wanted to show an example on Namor
@horg7203 honestly examples like these really help. I saw a namor do this exact thing in comp (same map) and was confused how he got there, wouldn't mind seeing more positioning examples like this
Hey… everybody… you notice how in higher levels strategists aren’t as focused on healing? Their teammates actually know how to use cover and find health packs WHAT A CONCEPT GUYS
Trying to solo out of bronze and it’s so hard. Feel like I should be high silver. Keep getting matched with bad teammates who are uncooperative
@@hype876 do you play any supports ?? In general, in bronze, if you can play something like Cloak and Dagger well or Mantis, you will solo carry your team !
@horg7203 you know what’s crazy ? I honestly started doing that earlier. But I tend to switch off and try to the balance where we lack. Mantis is my best hero at the moment. I’m pretty good and healing and slaying with her. Thanks for the advice !
this is actually some really good advice thank you
@@AryanDehghani my pleasure and thank you for the support !
From Calcharo gigachad to Magneto gigachad!! Haha. I didn't know you could escape from Jeff ult walling the line of sight from the center (if i understood well). Can't wait to try it. Thank you for your extremely valuable tips.
@@88Xardas hahaha thank you!! And yes you can, very useful to know for sure !
groot, jeff, moon, namor, iron fist. and 6th the suitable tank, support or dps depends on who you need
These are all very good tips. I thoroughly enjoyed this vid, thanks dude.
@@GiliusThunderhead you’re welcome !! Thank you for the comment and support
How do you climb if you get a team that doesn’t know what they’re doing, supports want to dps with their characters and no one has a mic? Because I tend to get grouped up with these ppl a lot and it’s frustrating
You could try making friends woth some Rivals players and queueing with them. I know socializing isn't what a lot want or can do but if you can I'd recommend it.
For purely in the match itself try to figure out what is the least worst option. If the dps sucks is it worth going dps and having less tank or healer? Or can you ask people to trade roles?
I always solo queue and never like using a mic personally, I get the benefits but personally it's way too distracting and kinda makes you stress more in situations if it's ranked. So I prefer to mute everything and do my thing
@@braytenhawkinson firstly : this is a tough situation for sure BUT, this is exactly what I did on my main account.
I specifically turn off voice chat because I don’t want to subject myself to verbal abuse and constant griefing.
I just focus on my game. Over many games, statistically, if you make fewer and fewer mistakes AND you make more and more actively good decisions/plays you will compensate for your team’s incompetence !
@@horg7203 I don't think I am a bad player and I always try to fill up the tank and support role. But bronze and silver is really driving me crazy. I get 3 or 4 duelist every game and they are all really bad. I don't think I am good enough to make a difference. I can get like 7 losing streaks which is so one sided.
Bot game maybe ? How fast did you que ? *mysterious whistle*
The table menu shows your team's ultimate charge level?! I thought it was showing how much you contributed to the objective!!
i love how Asmon always blame the healer like he entitle to be heal 24-7. Then the dude run into front line like a tank using Punisher cause he need to get a few kills =.= or go off grid and expect healer to know where he is.
Imagine getting off angles/flanking that well and confusing the opponent with Namir, the least mobile carry. Thats insane!
Do you have some tips for aiming? Is so weird im this game and i want to get better
@@darshio8307 yes! Go to the practice mode and run down below and set the parameters.
I have a Spider-Man guide on this channel that shows you how halfway through the video! Hope this helps!
Ay bro I gotta know, what is your crosshair code?
Any tips for magneto countering wolverine ? Great guide btw, i followed you since Wuthering waves 😊
@@nimrod98 nice! Thank you for the support!
And yes : use the bubble! Wolverine won’t do much to you if you bubble either before his grab or even after. Your healers have to be alert though and get on you right away. At that stage you can punish the Wolverine
You can also push wolverine off you with the mag cannon
This is probably gonna surprise u but Im not good at dps but I main supports/heals which brought me to grandmaster 3, just focus on helping the team
@@fallenejoski great work! Thanks for the comment !
What does higher or lower e-low mean?
@@KennyJordana elo! It basically means skill rating, or to put it even more simply : high rank or low rank
Asmon isnt that bad, also he's been gold 1 im like 99% sure, could be wrong. But hovers down to gold 3. he gets great overall DPS value, but punisher struggles to execute. Just how it is.
The one thing he needs to do actually though, is stop queing once he loses like 3 in a row. Puts you into a wierd losers que, where if you check history of enemy/team
you'll notice your WHOLE team has been on a losing streak, and enemy team has been on a winning streak.
Essentially, its in a "test" phase, trying to see if you can carry. This is pretty confirmed too. I just wait a hour or so after i lose 2-3 in a row, and que again. Its reset. Alot of
people have done it.
Punisher, Winter Soldier,wolverine (2 of his most picks i think?) all 3 not very self-carry, since theyre more about sustained damage, and
soldier is high value because of 1v1, and peeling. Both things in gold you dont really need to do, he can definetly get some better angles
like holding high ground, doing min-flanks. But really he needs to pick a better carry hero, like Hela, Hawk, he could play Wolverine (Since he seems to like him)
but until very consistent, he's more of a counter pick. He could hard carry as Thor too if he learned him.
he should focus on like 2 DPS characters (if he wants to main dps) But know how to play 1 tank really well.
Im only GM3 atm, and i hover down into diamond so im not the best . But thats how i carried out of the lower ranks.
fuck learning healer its pussy boy
@@Telarius hahaha absolutely, I am of course just having a bit of a laugh based on his little rant.
To be honest we all feel that way some days when our teammates decide they’re spiderman and Wolverine main because they watched a couple of TH-cam videos !!
Can you elaborate more on this mechanic? I get like 6 to 7 losing streaks in a row it is ridiculous. I am not sure what kind of design is this because the matchmaking seem to be broken. I solo queue.
@ what hero do you play? Maybe I can help
@horg7203 This may seem like a average conspiracy theorist (im mad)rant, but it'd actually the truth.
This game has been datamined for having hidden mmr. Which isn't uncommon. But you need to ask what is hidden mmr made for?
Mmr is your buffer, if you win, you win more if you lose you lose harder (in terms of streaks and points losts/gained, it also cushions.
HMMR only exists for the pseudo placement system, a 3rd match making number to find partners. It's not a feeling, and is verifiable if you just start looking at lose streak teammates, and opponents history. But the game files directly send your listed hidden mmr, this is super common. Nearly all games have hidden mmr.
But this game has it tweaked and cranked all the way in terms of quest-ques. When it peudo wants to place you.
People have different guesses as to why, but it's most likely because they have no base-placement matches.
Placement matches essentially do exactly what these questioning ques do, which allows you to reduce the amount of them after they're completed.
But this game has no placements of course. Just raw CR, MMR, HMMR.
There's some sources about this if you're interested, it's not too complicated. Definetly it started as a hunch for people though which lead to digging into their mmr system.
@@horg7203 Depending on the map, if it is capturing I would play Peni Parker as I like to set traps at the nearby doorway and she is good at holding down a position.
If it is escort, I would use Strange or Luna Snow if we need a healer. I always try my best to fill up the last needed slot but I always end up with at least 3 or 4 duelists who underperforms. It is beyond frustrating. I alway solo queue in MOBA games and climb ranks easily.
Those are surely helpful tips. I learned a lot.
I have 77.9% win rate, and I hit Grandmaster in 66 comp matches.
Even though I consider myself equal to you in terms of skill, this video still helps!
@@maozedowner5915 that’s awesome !!! Thank you for the comment and support !!
Great video, for a beginner learning dps what’s a good hero pool for a psylocke main in your opinion, i also play mantis/luna and magneto/strange when I have to flex
@@Jonap2001 psylocke is great in almost any team comp!
You can practice the 1 burst combo in conquest mode as well just to become mechanically proficient
I'm gold 3 and I still learn from this video. Very informative thank you
@@lobsterboy64 nice!! I’m glad it helped !!
Really??? I thought gold where the top of the world and not just one of the lowest rank in the in ranked….
@@dgeci i played rank for 2 days
You can do all this and more but you don't rank up until you stop getting 5 monkeys in your team. You endup in a team with 5 dps 😂 what you doing to do? Play Tank or support? You need 2 of each 😂 Best is that you don't even get to keep the 5 monkeys... 1 or 2 will dc or rage qute in the middle of the match. There are so many TH-camrs making videos like this to get views. Most if not all of them rank up to GM with friends than makes videos saying how I got GM by soloing all the why to GM like a ret***d.
@@Viron-po3bw I did not do that though. You can view my match history
More wins for me, and not for thee
@@Moistdr let’s goooo
@@horg7203 Nice guide :)
Subbed, keep up the Marvel Rivals content. :)
@@zortex9575 thank you so much!! I will keep it coming!!
if just more people watched videos like these..... problem is 90% of players are like asmongold you showed in the beginning.... they dont think, have hoeriboe positioning... never use natural cover just soak dmg, dont know how to manage their cooldowns or understand space control.... they stay in the middle of the open and then blame every else and make tons of posts on reddit how devs should change this or that because this or that is overpowered.... i hope devs never listen to these low rank players because for example players like this demand role queue and we all know what it does to a game.... i am currently diamond slowly going to GM... and every game i lose i think to myself what could i do better myself to help my team win, maybe to take objective, maybe to kill that black panther that harassing the bakcline..... after 150 hours i dont think there is any hero overpowered... game is amazing people just need to learn to adjust... im not gonna take 1v1 against hela on long range as Magik.... but bronze player does and then bitch about the healers and how Hela is OP..... and yeah you see these type of players in Diamond too and you just know they are boosted.... hopefully devs are smarter and not gonna listen to bunch of bronze players complain and then start balancing things..
I main Magneto too :D
I will never get out of high gold low plat though cause I need to get good at the game first :)
Wasn't he in Gold the other day?
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 he made it out ?! He must have seen this video then!!!
@@horg7203 He was in Gold days before your video came out.
5:48 lol
@@ironsentinel6047 I was about to alt+f4 there LOL
You tell your friend in solo Q? Make sense.
@@gamingink1252 that’s my alt account, you can look up my main which is also shown in the beggining.
That clip is from my alt account which you can also verify because the name is obviously not hoRg.
Due to the ranked system, I cannot play with my friends as GM if they are not at least diamond. Alt account is therefore necessary for us to enjoy the game together.
Thank you for your very thorough detective work Sherlock Holmes.
He done with the game lol
All these videos are informative but stupid in the end. Because u r not tackling the only true problem. Which is STOMPING. And my team get stomped in 80 percent of the game I play. Which means no matter what I do the other team is wiping us all. We cant do kills. We cant move. Nothing is happening.
So ur advices are good for the few balanced match, but modt of the time it s just a mess. Disgusting.
@@dgeci this is a great point. I’m going to post an example of this playing with my friend on my alt account.
It is absolutely addressable!! I’ll post the match this week with explanations
Hes in gold off the rip in this video though lol
Yeah just trolling of course
good but in the end you'll still lose if you suck at them or poor aim. lol
what this game needs if it wants to have any kind of truely comp mode is a roll que -- its the most asked for in any shooter, moba, Role shooter. No clue why they think its okay to release without one..... You cant rank up and be consistent when youre changing characters every game.
role que is the worst kind of oral sex
@@UndeadPoli I think it’s great without role queue !
No role queue. Keep it funky, keep it fresh.
ha ha ha
lol
good video too bad he won't understand a lick of it