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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- Hello, Gems! In this video, I will discuss the pros and cons of VSeeFace, 3tene, and VUP. Which one should you use and why? Which one do I think is the best? There are many differences between using full body as a VTuber to movie quality-looking scenes depending on the VTuber Program you use.
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👾 VUP Discord: / discord
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:50 VSeeFace Pros
03:20 VSeeFace Cons
04:32 3tene Pros
07:00 3tene Cons
08:03 VUP Pros
10:20 VUP Cons
10:40 Why VUP is the Best
11:55 Choosing The Program That Best Fits You
12:56 Outro
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This Vtuber this one.. is literally the best, Why you ask? She hearts replies every comment making sure she is looking at all of them and her videos? mwah chef's kiss
You are so sweet thank you
ikr
do you actually blame people with more than 2 million people watching for not hearting or replying :/
I'm seriously starting to love the humor so much in these videos, straight off the bat had me laughing with the casual arm glitch xD Awesome video, once again helping people sort through the ocean of choices they have to make
thank you vox
I really like your vroid model, its cute! I actually recently figured out in VUP, if you use the arrow keys you can walk around, and space to jump, if you hold down the shift key while walking, you can run too (there's a way how to crouch too but I haven't figured that out yet)
Oh my gosh I never knew this :O mind breaking news thanks you so much 💕✨
@@Syafire Your welcome! Glad I could help ^^ XD I noticed not many people noticed this XD I figured this out myself when I seen a slight glimpce of someone moving their model without a body tracker, and I thought I would experiment XD
I can't figure out how to auto blink though without a webcam XD I know its possible to do though
i know you from argama which right your in her streams
@@BUNNYZLIVEZONTHEMOON Yes that's right XD I'm glad you remember me
VSeeFace has settings to improve movement and expression transitions. I watch a vtuber dude that uses VSeeFace moves so smoothly, and rocks on his chair a lot. He also stretches on stream moving his neck and stuff. But you can tell when he moves out of camera range, and that's when the awkward movement happens
For sure, there is always going to be awkward movement haha. He could also be using face tracking on his phone. My mind has changed around while using all these programs. I like them all for different purposes.
thank you for this! Ive been trying to settle on a program to start with and you narrowed it down for me~
Awesome
SCREAMING at 3-tene studio!! This is all so exciting 🎊🔥
I know right ;-;
AAAAAAA THIS JUST ANSWERED SO MANY QUESTIONS I'VE HAD! Thank you, kind lady!
Happy to help!
Thank you! I recently started streaming and I saw one of my fav streamers start using this kind of thing and I want to test it out for myself to see if I want to become a Vtuber or not :D
Rosa,
I am so happy for you! Try things out and see what you like. You got this!
Stay Creative ✨,
Syafire
@@Syafire thank you, I made an avatar with VRoid studio but I'm not sure how to add it to the software
@@rosathefoxgirl You will have to export your model from VRoidStudio onto your desktop and then you can import it in to one of the programs of your choosing
Aww, how lovely of you. ✨ Nice that you like the outfit ☺️✨
I can finally become a Vtuber! Thank you very much for the tips and tutorial! :D
You’re welcome 😊
jeez. holy microwave. your anthusiasm. its brilliant!
son of a biscuit! Thank you!
Lol my friends want me to become an vtuber but I had no idea where to start. I've always wanted to try this sort of thing. Thanks for the video! Now I have options
Happy I can help Silver, let me know if you have any questions :)
Thankyouuuuuu soo muchhhh 💕💕💕 it's really helpfull !!!
You are mega welcome
Thank you for the tips! Great videos! :D Just subscribed!
You are super welcome! Thanks for the support!
Thank you so much! Liked shared and subbed really appreciate all your tips and tricks! I'm new to vtubing (like a day ago new) and I had been envisioning have an avatar act as an ai for my youtube/twitch content an you've save my digital life! thank you
You are so welcome 💕 thank you for such a sweet comment 🙂
You can make a budget friendly stream deck with a number pad thingy for like less than $10 at Walmart and tedious keybinding lol but I think for starting out it’d be worth the time ^w^
Yess you can also get the app for cheap as well I heard. Thanks for sharing this!
Reallusion iClone can use perception neuron. It is what they use in movies. It is sensors all over your body that allows for tracking of movement.
Ooo That is so cool! Thanks for sharing :D
Thank you! This was very helpful. 👍💯
You are so welcome! I’m glad to hear it was helpful and thanks for watching my content 🥰
@@Syafire Your welcome, also your very beautiful.
@@j2terminator Thank you :D
@@Syafire No problem darling.
Great video, specially for beginners and aspiring Vtubers!
Thanks!
VUp, you say? Interesting. You are so awesome, Syafire. Thank you for sharing this stuff. I appreciate that you let us suck your brain like this
My mind is now changed x,D I prefer VSEEFace for sure! I got you :D
You are a lifesaver, thank you
Happy to help 💫
so if im getting this right
vroid - making a model
these programs -Streaming as a vtuber
twitch,youtube etc- streaming platforms.
im confused as to how i go about putting my model onto a twitch stream while playing and streaming from an XBOX
Great conclusion DL! You still will use a streaming program after using one of these like you might use 3tene and then use OBS or another streaming program. For using counsole you will want to look into getting a capture card which projects what’s happening on your counsole to your pc and then you can put that out to streaming 😀
Perception Neuron is what Kizuna Ai uses for tracking so very high end stuff, Heard it's not worth it do if like a single sensor breaks you can't track that specific part anymore.
oh I didnt know that. Good to know
Overall amazing video as usual :D I so want to use VUP but.. yeah toaster deluxe pc over here eheh so I'mma stick to vseeface X'D
Ty
@@Syafire I pray for that time to come XD
thank you so much i love u bro u helped me alot
I got you
I was wondering what is the best program to test a model for 2D? (Including hot keys)
So far, my favorite is prpr live, its free on steam ^_^ store.steampowered.com/app/1279610/PrprLive/
Hey another way to make poses is to use vrm to pmx, download MMD, then load the character and pose!
Big Brain :D
@@Syafire y e s
@@Syafire I actually do use vroid to make models, the only thing that acts up is with some movements the hair clips, but it’s hard to notice
Hello there! I just started looking into models and setting them up to follow my movements. I started with 3tene, but not only did 3tene take forever to recognize my webcam, but it's only registering it at 8 FPS, so the movement is super laggy and stuttery. Is there any way to adjust this?
It depends on ur pc but I would say maybe switch to vmagicmirror or vseeface for better performance at this point
The voice is so cute and cool, shes literally the best
Thank you Peach
Vseeface seems to be the only one not having a problem tracking me with glasses. Maybe i need to touch the settings on others any recommendations?
try Vmagicmirror, I heard it works well for people with glasses.
Yes 😂 I’m on facerig and it doesn’t work with my glasses 🤓
I got a meh PC and am curious what VSF is like when streaming.
🤣 Toaster PC😂
xD
🤣🙌
Ok so ...ummm can you do a tutorial on how to actually do vtube vid from the beginning...I mean for those that's familiar with OBS but haven't a clue about Vtubing...doing anything with avatars....like how to import to OBS or just use window capture...etc ...how to do all this consider that one has their avatar created but wants to do their first vtube vid...ya know?
vseeface + ThreeDPoseTracker 0.5.1 + VRM Poser = Good for sit chair streeming with mid body (VIRTU 0.0.3 another option)
Thank you! Im new to streaming and making models and the model I want to use is very simple, basically just eyes and a mouth. I have a toaster computer for the moment so i cant use live2d yet haha.
"Why VUP is the best: Overall just annoying"
Jep, can relate :D
hahaha xD
I have a question tho it may sound dumb but what program is good to use if you dont use VRM models?
I like your voice!❤
Thank you so much
@@Syafire :)
after testing ... VUP uses only up to 11 percent of the cpu, while prprlive uses average of 22 to 24 percent.. facerig using around 18 percent. and vtube studio also using around 22 percent... i used VUP tonight for a game stream, and i was able to set my video output rate much higher with no lag. tracking was much smoother, just need to upgrade to an iphone now.They are more willing to talk to people than other companies as well. I told them to work the bugs out and they liked my post lol.
Yea each program works better depending on the person too. This is great information thank you! Also yes VUPs developers are super helpful. They are great at listening to and applying feedback.
@@Syafire yea i am still having cpu overload problems using the rest, because of running my DAW software, looks like I am going to have to get a 2nd gaming pc and just run the DAW solo by itself on one pc then output that sound to the other into a mini usb mixer. thats how my drummer friend does it on twitch, he has a massive set up, he is a roland sponsored drummer, and certified by ableton as an instructor. I have some pretty neat musician friends online.
@@Syafire oh I tested out Reaper today another software instead of using Ableton and is only is using 2 percent cpu compared to 25 percent cpu Ableton was using up.. this might do it. Sorry just am excited, my live streams have been a bit glitchy so far. But i'm working on getting better.
Now in 2022, have any of these programs upgraded? Vup sounds like the best one based on this video simply because 3tene might be too expensive for me.
Question: Do all three of these programs use .vrm files for character models?
yes!
Is there a good discord for 3tene? I really enjoy 3tene, but I'm getting some weird distortion with my mic that isn't happening in any other program and I was hoping to ask someone knowledgable for ideas.
Not as far as I know. Maybe see if they have a support email and email them?
hello syafire im new here and i wanted to become am vtuber when im off camera and since i saw this i dont know what program so i downloaded and its cool !
Welcome Kimi! I hope everything goes wonderfully for you :D
Can you add assets to any of these? I watched your Tutorials on Vseeface and VMagicMirror, so far, and of the two you only covered importing assets in VMagicMirror.
🌺
How do you feel about live3d?
New sub~~~ Keep up the good work!
Thanks for subbing! and the kind words :D
@@Syafire I got chu. Imma keep supporting cause im on my way to do youtube as well~
@@KIrikun222 you got this!
@@Syafire Thanks! Imma support u always~ keep up the great vids aight?
why vup doesn`t see my mouth and eyes.... Well, it sees, but my character does not repeat after me... help plz.....
Im not sure sorry
so do you have to buy a stream deck for you to be able to stream w the avatar? this information is really helping so thank you!!
No you do NOT need a stream deck, thats optional :D
can you redo this video again because its been awhile and you said "we'll see in the future" and i want to know what your opinions are now because im not sure what to get
Hi Zipit, I will consider redoing it. Thanks for letting me know :D
@@Syafire thank you so much
and how u set the unity vr interface? thats my question, i just ordered htc vive trackers and i made avatars on blender and unity....is like a plugin or something?
Theres an app you can get called Virtual Motion Capture. Check out Fofamits channel. Shes awesome and explains it all. Good luck!
@@Syafire ty a lot n.n i will check
@@Nekotico Cool :D
Hello love your video tutorials.. May I ask what program do you use for sitting and have that seat and how do you do it?
Hello! I use unity and I use a program called virtual motion capture ^_^
@@Syafire Thank you for replying. Do I need additional hardware for that?
So for very barebones tracking atleast for starting out do I need extra equipment for tracking or can I use a webcam?
For bare-bones, you can use a webcam :D You can check out this video if you are looking for a good webcam www.youtube.com/watch?
What about adobe character animator?
Watching this looking for a replacement for VUP due to them shutting down 😢. I agree they were the best. But 3tene sounds like a good option
Hi Syafire!
Hello
Can you make a video about how to use leap motion for VUP? My leap motion works very strange in VUP, i dont know if my leap motion is broken or what.
I will add it to my list :)
@@Syafire thx very much 😊
the hair seems to have a mind of its own
I love it like that!
Hey, i have had a problem with vseeface. My windows defender cant handle it at ALL. It stops vseeface completely. Is there a reason for this? :-(
Hi Aiki, I wish I knew why, maybe check your firewall and allow VSEEFACE through?
Thank you@@Syafire !!
(I might have "solved" earlier. I just had to wait for a newer version, but you have been really helpful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) :-)
There is a whole supreme entity behind the face you see! Don't look her too long in the eyes!
Oh my goshhhh xD Arceus hahaha
Can this be used when doing video conferencing in ZOOM, Teams, WhatsApp, Skype with your avatar created in VRoid? I think FaceRig had a feature? Is there something else that I would need to do this?
Yes it can but you need OBS to run virtual camera which you can use on other apps like zoom
The Link for Kritzel's channel is broken (for me anyway) just thought to let you know ❤
Thank you so much I will fix it. You rock!
Thank you for mentioning that. That's so kind of you ~
❤
I have a bonus con for VSeeFace:
If you wear glasses, your eyes will twitch like you are completely insane and haven't slept in months (The only solution I've found is turning on auto-blink, that makes you look a bit more sane and less sleep-deprived)
Lololol yes I’ve heard of this with glasses sometimes it can effect tracking
why does my avatar twitch when i blink?
Sometimes models are weird like that
can I active LipSync in VUP ?
How i make a Charakter in Vup ?
You dont use VUP to make a character, only to display an already made character
Cup won't recognize my face even tho my camera is on. The screen only shows black ;-;
Have you tried unplugging and plugging it back in? the camera
@@Syafire I only have my laptop camera
What's your opinion on readyplayer.me
Plus your opinion of vtubing on cloud pc's like shadow
I’m not sure who readyplayer.me is :O also I am not sure what you mean by clouds pc
@@Syafire readyplayer.me (not a affiliate link) is a new avatar creation site. It's a million times easier than vroid IMO. If you want to use a selfie it can create you avatars face for you. Basically it's for someone who isn't proficient in vroid or gets frustrated with it , like me. If you use vrchat it will automatically upload your optimized avatar to vrchat. You don't even have to use unity to adjust your avatar, thank god. For me personally, when I open unity I get confused and frustrated. Might be a good idea for a video, unity for beginners.
Cloud pc's are server computers you can link up to with a smartphone, tablet or computer and you can treat them as if they're you computer you'd have at your house. Once logged on, I have a full windows 10 computer to use how I see fit. If you want to see what it is shadow.tech (not a affiliate link)
I originally started out with vup, it worked so well but, I later wasn't able to control my character. Then switched to vseeface ;-;
I've switched around a lot too! Its totally okay to do that ^_^
@@Syafire thank you. I was really concerned for a moment
Your hair is so bouncy :0
Thank you 😊
vERY SORRY but do you have a V-Up tutorial video? Just answer yes or no in the comments, I'll search myself!
Anyways, thanks A LOT for this video! Now I know about V-Up and can make my choice. As a future...Vtuber? This is very helpful! Huge thanks!
Yes I do :)
can vup be used on mac?
Great question! I am actually not sure if u can use VUP on mac. They do have a discord you can ask there!
can you do a review on VDraw and VMagicMirror? Both are free!
VDraw is great for tracking making digital art, and VMagicMirror is great for just vtubing in general.
Hello! I have done one on VMagicMirror, I haven't heard of vdraw but I will have to check it out!
@@Syafire epiiiiiiiiic!
I using VMagicMirror. İts cool you can use it!😁
cool :D
@@Syafire :)
can you use a streamdeck to do emotes in VUP?
Haven't tried it but it might work!
@@Syafire I guess I'll try it out, thanks for the reply! 😊
What do you use with the hand tracking?
currently, I use index controllers
Hello! Does Vseeface allow multiple avatars at once?
Not as far as I know
Vseeface seems to make frames drop on my stream
So i wanna be vtuber on tik tok but idk how to record myself i try and 3tene and streamlabs it doesnt work when i click record so ppl do tutorial how to make video thank you if you see this
Sure ^_^
VNyan is my choice
Is vmagicmirror good for toast pc
vmagic mirror and vseeface are the best for toast pcs
Syafire okay thank you
Very informative video, however i don't think someone that uses a vertical windows taskbar can complain about UI being bad Lol
LOLLLL haha I’m a designer! But my task bar is vertical because when I use photoshop it gets in the way of my new layer button, but thankfully I switched it back and just moved my layer panel now haha
1:17 uhh what? vseeface sometimes goes to 25% on my i7 9700k lmao
Yes for some reason vtuber programs take mad cpu
@@Syafire well i mean they gotta render on the fly but that doesnt explain why its so cpu heavy and not gpu
@@stealth89 Agreed
Those programs are only for 3D animations right? :'c
Yes
@@Syafire okk thanks 💜 and do you know one for 2D animations?
@@nassiel2838 Not with programmed ones in as far as I know. I think you would have to hand animate from scratch
@@Syafire Ohhh I see, okay thaaanks 💜
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Embrace your dreams!
-(VSeeFace)-
1. there is full body support in VSeeFace -you just have to add a plug-in there's more steps you have to take
2. in general settings you can easily turn that off
3. Bad Ui hmmm (it doesn't matter your viewers won't be able to see it anyways -if you want that you I to look nice all you're asking for is less performance
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Vup biggest con: unable to lock the camera position
Is this still accurate in 2024?
vup is kill
One interportnant question : what 3tene cost? :'D
3tene is free! ✨
@@Syafire sorry for replying months later but how to install it for windows 10? it wont let me install it when i open the file :(
VSeeFace FTW, YUP turned my avatar into an eldritch horror, the UI is awful. 3tene tracking is wonky, otherwise it's ok.
I think most Vtubers no matter what software have terrible movement and especially mouth tracking. I just don't think a mostly software and a webcam is there yet for it to be worth watching
Lol, honestly I understand what you mean, but there is advanced rigging with the apple iphone face tracker thingy x,D Thats def worth watching but not many people have it
syafire i think your avatar's hair is actually allergic to your avatar!
LOL maybe, or im just usin that loreal shampoo
Too bad that the programs dont simulate a VCam to use in programs like Nvidia Broadcast.
maybe some day!
vup is gone no on steam
VSeeFace can run on my potato powered pc, clearly the best option for low end pcs.
hahaha xD
Can you do a video for mobile vtubing
I have to figure it out first but I would love to :D
@@Syafire thx btw I am KitKatCutie on twitch