Mike Garafolo on Why the Giants Are Sticking with Daniel Jones… For Now | The Rich Eisen Show
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- NFL Insider Mike Garafolo discusses why the Giants didn’t take a QB in the first round in the NFL Draft and are sticking with Daniel Jones for now
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Oh wow, a totally even keeled take on the Giants' draft and QB situation. Those are rare
Facts!!!
wow somebody who takes all factors into account 😂
Yeah, I don’t remember the last time I saw one.
Media heated they didn’t get JJ McCarthy 😂. Tells me they did the right thing.
But it will look like a bad move because jj will thrive on that stacked Vikings offense
The media wants NY to suck so bad
@@BigBlueBen”Stacked Vikings offense” Our offense isn’t stacked & their OL is much better. Situations matter for rookie QB’s
@@brandonmoyd2942 yes that’s what I was saying?
@@BigBlueBen “It will look like a bad move” What you’re saying is wrong that’s what I’m telling you. Nabers was the right move every offense needs an elite weapons which NYG didn’t have before. Now they do for their future QB
Their guy was Maye, they couldn’t get the trade done so the pivoted to the BPA. Why is that so hard to comprehend ? Smartest move they could of done and now the team is better off for it. Continue to build the team and eventually the right QB will fall in place.
Facts!
Facts! 2nd 💯
Absolutely…well said
If it was really our guy we would have made it happen.
@@ceezy585 it’s a little different when the team your trying to trade with wants the same QB lol I doubt any trade would of made it happen honestly, and if there was a price it would of set this team back. It’s not like they’re a QB away from competing, the entire roster needs retooling. Can’t build around your rookie QB if you gave up 3-4 years of 1st round picks etc lol
The 2 teams that desperately needed qbs were picking 2nd and 3rd and somehow we are shocked they didn’t trade their pick. I just don’t understand how anyone could believe this would have happened
Exactly and if the Patriots DID trade the pick for a modest return, everyone should have been questioning their grade on Maye. I think he’s a potential bust candidate but what do I know.
All the Giants had to do was lose a couple of meaningless games last year and they would have gotten the QB they wanted. This team shoots themselves in the foot all the time.
Long term this might be the smart move. Most of those QBs were reaches.
DJ was a super reach!
Daniel Jones was the biggest reach at #6!!!
40 mil a yr????
Taking Nabers is getting elite talent while picking that high. That has nothing to do with Jones, but just getting more talent for whoever is QB.
With Nabers out there, all Jones has to do is throw it, anywhere! Nabers will find it.
Let’s Go boys!!
Give Danny a good/healthy line this year & he’s gonna eat!!
He’ll probably win ComeBack POTY
He sucks.
Don't reach like we did for Daniel Jones, obj helped Eli in his final years, sabers will help DJ. The new TE ,Tracy from Purdue, Bellinger, Hyatt, Slayton and Robinson, alot more speed on the team, o line holds
A consistent O-Line combined with Malik Nabers is what will unlock the offense.
Did Waller retire??? Heard so but then someone said he didn't???
Media needs to get over. It would of been a reach at 6 to get JJ.
I'll simplify for any misunderstanding... If you listen to "experts" in the media you'll be picking first in the draft, picking a quarterback they fall in love with yearly...
They say a quarterback is a hall of famer before he completes one pass and after he throws an int he's a bust...
Going into year 6 and we’re still talking about a comeback win in his rookie season 😂😂😂😂
big problem last year...o line...the Giants gave up 80 sacks against...the fact they won 6 games...
Giants fans also need to realize that the team can get out of Daniel Jones’s contract after this season. This is very much a prove it year and if we’re picking in the T10 again, we are 100% moving on and drafting a QB.
5 comeback wins two years ago. It all comes down to blocking. Can't block, can't win
Yeah 85 sacks given up is an embarrassment to the game. Where DJ took 30 something sacks in the first 5 games with 11 of them coming against a mid Seahawks defense at best.
Facts!!!
Jones is trash
and where did that get you guys? he’s not a top 40 QB in the league.
@@prestigeshogun1534 No quarterback alive would succeed with the receivers & o lines he's played with. the owner said as much
I respect that the new regime didn’t reach for a QB, once the top 3 were gone, they stuck to there grades on the other QBs and decided to build elsewhere. Reaching for a QB is how we got DJ in the first place.
Speaking for me, as a Giants fan, we are stuck with the dude for another year. I wanted a playmaker like Nabers. He's young and hopefully will have a immediate impact for this dreadful offense now and into the future. DJ will not be here after this year. We know what he is.... were just kicking the QB can down the road.
Who knows, next year maybe a veteran QB will become available.
How about losing Andrew Thomas in the GIANTS first series on a blocked field goal attempt for 7 games due to a hamstring injury.From that point the offensive line was a complete disaster without protection to pass.YES the offensive line improved with Thomas back but DJ was already finished at that point.
One man doesn't make a line.
Hi Mike!
It's simple. Those QBs would've been ruined by the Giants current roster. Bottom 3rd O-line. Worst receiving group in the league. Arguably the least talented RB group in the league. How many times have we seen a QB's career been destroyed by not having any help. They need to build some sort of foundation for them to walk in to.
Pretty much. DJs career has been ruined by the Joe Judge and DG regime.
I remember Earl Morrell back in the 60's. He was the starter for the Giants and they were in the cellar. Traded Earl to the Colts and he took them to the championship the next year.
Trouble is the teams that had the numbers 2 and 3 in the draft needed QBs too.
Where’s Rich?
Just look over the years where a first round can’t miss quarterback. Turned out to be a dud look at all the first round picks the jets. Used on franchise quarterbacks the last few years who r not even on the team anymore
Giants would be better off if they just let Nabers throw the fuckin ball. lol
They did take a QB Liam Thompson who even won the Manning player to watch award.
He's an UDFA. Didn't spend a draft pick on a QB.
I don't understand the hate for Daniel Jones. The guy was injured last year: plenty of other qbs were also injured. He played behind a terrible line and still did his best to lift his team. He had limited options to distribute the ball to. Justin Herbert, in my opinion, is in the same position with the same problems, yet nothing is said about him? Give Jones another season to show what he can bring to the NFL. The issue is that fans and owners expect immediate success. Aka The Stroud Effect. The game is wicked fast, highly pressured. Players need time to adapt and build. Fans and 'experts' need to stop complaining and back their players. Show some support
Herbert has Allen, Williams what you mean
It’s year 6, and he hasn’t gotten any better. Let it go.
Great point👍
There is nowhere to go but up.
What about Bo Nix ?.
I think Jones is about to ball out with Nabers. People dont understand the giants still have Wandale Robinson whose also a rac machine not to mention Hyatt with that speed on the verts its really on the Offensive Line TBH Jones will be fine
Giants fans didn't think they had a chance at a top 3 qb, so they were resigned to the fact that, like it or not, hes our qb, but don't confuse that resignation with excitement.
They did not choose to draft JJ McCarthy probably because they did not think his upside was any more than Daniel Jones's upside. Back in 2018, the Giants were criticized for not drafting Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen with the number two selection in the draft and ultimately they were proven right not to draft any of those two quarterbacks! I will give them the benefit of the doubt on this one!
Smart in not drafting Darnold or Rosen; yet they weren’t smart by drafting a RB with that number two pick and passing up Josh Allen who went number six. Even passed up Quinton Nelson, picked at number four who could’ve been a strong building block for that offensive line.
This is finally his make or break year. If he succeeds with the team he has around him there will no longer be any question about his ability. Nabers needs to be the guy to elevate him to that level just as every QB has had that receiver for them to truly ascend and DJ hasn't had anything even close to resembling that kind of player so Nabers HAS to work out to that level. That and they have to somehow finally fix their offensive line. The reality is DJ has been no where near as bad as the media would have you believe but he has certainly never been great... the real question is how much of that has been out of his control. Mara is not lying when he says the Giants have truly done everything it possibly can to make Jones fail. Even so he has been basically the exact same player as Trevor Lawrence, a guy who was supposed to be the 2nd coming of Payton Manning... look up their stats and you'll see how virtually identical they are.
I thought they were done with him? Media, ALL media needs to lay off my boy DJ.
It actually sucks that the media continues to crap on him.
@@adonijahdelancy6722 They can't think or watch the games where he was getting wrecked for themselves. He always gets up.
Even if we got drake maye thats a way bigger question then malik nabers nabers is a slam dunk hes going to be good and hes going to make us better now a new qb would never thrive with the weapons and line we have now the line secondary and wr have adressed i beleive were going to be alot better than people think
This show is SOOO much better with other hosts lol
Kinda like how McAfee is better when AJ hosts
The Daniel Jones Giants era will be known as the Titanic. They picked wrong high in the draft with Saquon then stuck with a poor performing QB in Daniel. As an eagles fan they have made the rivalry irrelevant sadly.
The Patriots coach says Maye is gonna need a lot of work! I think we dodged a bullet! LMFAO and SMH all at the same time!
Regards,
Andy, Annmarie's husband
Never once mentioned the offensive line being as bad as humanly possible. Edit: ALright Mike finally said it.
Using the 6th pick on a project backup LB while passing on Milton was the last straw. Deliberately keeping the disgusting streak of 👎🏾QB going. SMH. I’ve removed all Giants representation, hats, jerseys, golf club covers, deleted app, and unsubscribe from all reporters and pages. All after they picked the WR I wanted 1st. It’s still going to take something special to happen to get me back.
Whining over a sixth round pick that was used mainly for special teams; a player the new special teams coach wanted. And crying crocodile tears because they didn’t draft the strong armed QB you wanted who’s very inaccurate, badly inconsistent and has a much lesser chance at development. Some of you casual fantasy football fans are very delusional, overemotional and bipolar. You’re no longer a Giants fan? Cool. You were never a true fan to begin with because a real fan sticks with their team through the good times and the bad. You will not be missed, go root for the Jets. Fairweather casual.
Naburs didnt look like he wanted to be drafted to the Giants and definitely did not look happy meeting Daddy Daboll and Daniel Deer-in-the-headlights Jones. This has drama written all over it in the rookie season. Hope the best for him though
Nabers wants to play for a Super Bowl contender. The Giants are not that team.
This is the last year of guaranteed money for Daniel jones ,so this is the make or break yr for him,smart to pick a receiver
Why not take the QB; because the Giants don’t have short memories. Taking a QB just to take one at No. 6 is LITERALLY how they ended up with Daniel Jones
The G-men kept their cool and didn't extend themselves. It's too bad they reached so far for Daniel Jones in the first place.
It's going to take a few years to correct that horrible choice.
They could have had Nick Bosa instead of Jones. The impact of that would have been better.
The reason the Giants offense has been terrible is simply because their offensive line has been terrible. Its really that simple. They have had one of the worst offensive lines in football since 2012 and it still has yet to be fixed. Its really unbelievable.
Giants fans wanted Nabers because they like Nabers, not because they have faith in Jones. One has nothing to do with the other.
If they really tried to move up for Maye and then passed on Milton falling to them then I have no faith in their decision making and talent evaluation. Big failure.
Daniel Jones' eyes are too close together.
He can't see the field properly.
lol cyclops
Sticking with Jones shows the Giants are committed to a losing season again. They are improving, but so are all the other teams. Remember, if you lose the first 4 or 5 games, like always, do not start winning games. The following year, you'll have a new top rated QB. You need the #1 or #2 pick.
One more losing season and pick up a QB next year. Keep Jones on the bench as a back up after that.
G.Grennell I'm not sure why you nat'l sports gurus?, are railing on DJ and NY so much. NY had no chance to get one of the top three QB's this year, and after last year horrible O-line (for the tenth straight year), they needed to fix that line, and improve wherever possible. So they have improved the O-line in free agency with veterans, hired a new line coach, and now thrown in 4 or 5 UDFA's to insure they get the best five available. In addition, they improved their pass rush w/burns, added a #1 wr1, #1 safety, three more RB's to replace Saquon, and strenthened their CB, TE, and LB positions. It would have been stupid to mortgage their season trying to reach any new QB, when DJ has not had a reasonable opportunity to succed in four years. He has come back to win in a couple games, won a playoff game, an suffered through the worst o-lines in NY history, while adapting to three coach/ coordinator changes, and several injuries, because of his lack of protection. He will finally get a decent chance this year to perform, yet many guru's? I hear have already written him off, and are scheming next year's draft. It is time for you-all to shut up, give him the real chance he deserves...then pass your judgment. I expect, without key injuries, NY will win 9, or 10 games this year. They could have won three more than the 6 wins they had last year, if DJ could have been protected. Get a clue!! NUF SAID!!!
I have been saying this since the obj trade the giants are not trying to win they paid danny pennies & told quads goodbye how do tell your best player bye bye thats dumb
not picking a QB in the first round i get it…maye was the guy you wanted you couldnt get him so you got the best available football player, i even understand picking taylor nubin in the 2nd round……..but to go rounds 3-7 and not get a QB AT ALL!!! lol knowing our QB room is below average i dont understand.. GOGIANTS!
😯 Oh.. 🤨 But the NYG have a great franchise QB now. The question is will they give him a chance. NATHAN ROURKE! He went undrafted do to playing in Canada in the CFL. Check out his highlight reel playing for Ohio, BC Lions (CFL) Preseason Jaguars highlights. 😉👍
Tired of hearing on the daniel jones talk....they end up sticking with him...drew lock for 3 million in incentives is not paying for a #1 QB.
..move on people
This is dumb. Nabers has nothing to do with Jones. They cant keep him on that contract, hes gone after this year even if hes miraculously competent. This is about the 4 years after jones leaves the team that you have an elite WR1 on a rookie contract to pair with your next QB
No Excuses For Jones These Facts We Gave Up 85 Sacks Most In NFL HISTORY .. 11 In One Game .. We Got 3 QBs Injured .. Tom Brady Would’ve Looked Terrible In Blue Nobody Would’ve Survived That I’m Honestly Shocked DJ Isn’t How Eli Was At The End .. SCARED
I absolutely have zero confidence in Daniel Jones, and QB Drew Lock will be the starting by WK 1. Daniel Jones has had 5 years already, with multiple injuries. Brian Daboll is going to get fired because of sticking with Daniel Jones.
As a Giants fan, at best they go 7-10. At worst it's 3-14 again. That's the window. I live in Atlanta, so I already know Carson Beck isn't the guy. I don't know. I guess in 2025 they draft tons of OLs and then stink again so they have a shot at Arch Manning.
you need a franchise changing qb to make a playoff dent. they felt all of those were taken at their draft position. so they took a game breaking WR. Great pick. If i was GM i would have traded back for more picks to boost the O and D lines. it's not the sexiest way to make your team better. a better line gives your qb slightly more time and their qb slightly less time meaning your 3rd round receiver will get open and make the catch and run for more yards.
The giants simply dont want to win 10 years of foolish draft picks justin pugh etc they paid danny pennies & let Quads walk sorry they dont want to win penix right now is an upgrade danny is buttcheeks
None of the QBs in the NFC are franchise changing. The only one who’s franchise changing is Mahomes and many QBs in the AFC
They already invested a lot of draft picks on the OL and spent a lot of money on the OL in free agency. They weren’t spending more draft picks on linemen.
wowee..can u imagine mccarthy behind that giants oline..he would not survive the yr....
Because the patriots didn’t take the trade.
They were conservative because they couldn't block.
The excuses they make for Daniel Jones is nuts. He's a Meh QB. Period
You still need to find someone that you believe in to replace him. They obviously didn’t like any of them where they were at
Why is Jones bad, though? The dude was running for his life behind a rubbish line and no options
We dont have confidence in DJ. Nabers was too good to pass up and the only other move that might have made sense would have been to trade down. DJ is nothing more than a bridge to whatever comes next unless a miracle happens. I hope with changes to the offensive line we might see him at least show he can manage a game to a win and the improved defense can get us turnovers and wins.
I guess on the bright side go giants fans they will have another top 5 pick next year
That QB is Lozy trips on his own 2 feet & can't read plays fast enough
The owners "love" their players and keep em for instance DJ bad ownership& bad decisions too bad for love of players
The Tampa Bay game was 5 years ago. Are you really gonna talk about something that happened 5 years ago in your support of him. Thats effing foolish.
forget about a rich. the reason is staying is March Mars boy.
The speculation on this is so lame because you guys were all wrong. Just let it go.
Next year we will hear malik is overrated he doesn't know the playbook dj doesn't trust him.
Has Daniel Jones answered any of your questions. Y’all know the answers
Because they a joke of a organization
Because they were too dumb to sign Russell Wilson and Justin Fields.
Dj cant process the field or step up in the pocket. Evan Neal gave up 2 sacks last year and he gets the blame. Djs best year was average at best. Its year 6, the blue print is out on how to stop him. Take away his first read, put the blizt right in his face and he folds like a lawn chair.
Nothing wrong with drafting Nabers but I would have followed that up with someone like Milton. Or drafted Penix and draft back up for Keon Coleman.
I cant believe we are going on a 6th year wuth Daniel jones.....
If he doesn't have a good season i want them fired
That won't happen. Not at all. Schoen and Daboll's leash are MUCH longer than most casual fans think. Steve Tisch is running this operation at this moment, as he threatened John Mara at the end of Joe Judge's reign. Mara wanted to keep Judge and Gettleman for stability, but Tisch said to let them go and to look outside the organization, or Mara would lose Tisch's 50% stake in the Giants. Schoen and Daboll are under contract with Daniel Jones for one more year, then they will get their guy. THAT is when the clock starts on their regime pressure.
So more of the same bullshit that the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions went through, eh? Zero consistency, zero structure, constant turnover, no production, dead last in all stats, over, and over, and over, again, and again, and again. Rinse, recycle, repeat. That's precisely what you are suggesting. Short term results, long term failure. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it. Rethink your strategy, and go root for another team if you can't handle patience and payoff of building a contender for the long haul.
Didn't like that comment, huh? I'll reword it then. Obviously, you don't watch football, or the Giants for that matter. So when someone comments back and gets under your skin... oh baby... can't handle that heat, can you? Take your Russian bot poop and laughing emojis elsewhere. To an Eagles fan page, perhaps? Or just elsewhere in general.
So you do exist... shocking.
Alright then, to answer your first question. Either a QB in the 2025 draft, or Drew Lock, if he fits the Daboll/Kafka mold. Most likely the former, Quinn Ewers, Carson Beck, Cam Ward, or that kid from Texas A&M.
As for your second question, Shurmur, Judge, and Gettleman... Dave Gettleman was hired as a familiar face to the franchise, as he worked in the Giants front office before. He hired Pat Shurmur, who was a little soft as a head coach. Good coordinator, don't get me wrong, but bad track record as a head coach. (Those Browns I had mentioned in my comment that was taken down) He was the coach that SHOULD have been Daniel Jones' teacher, but a 4 win season derailed that idea. So out Shurmur went. Joe Judge... HA!!! He had ZERO business being a head coach. But, Gettleman and Giants' ownership saw the Harbaugh/Ravens thing and tried to mimic that. A 6 win, 4 win, and lost lockeroom later, out the door he went, along with Gettleman. However, there was a report that Mara wanted to keep Judge for consistency sake. (Back around when Joe Judge got fired. You can look that report up if you'd like) My speculation, as you put it, was the abrupt turn that Mara took to firing Judge and Gettleman and hiring outside of the franchise. Just reading between the lines, that's all.
One more example for you, go rewatch the Giants' war room in this year's draft. Look at how much Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll interact with Steve Tisch versus John Mara. It leans Tisch's way more, which kinda validates my original point, just a hair.
That should answer a few of your concerns about my original post. Anything else you'd like to add to that, my good Ukrainian sir?
No problem, glad I could help. Come back again if you'd like to talk some more football.
RUBBER HITS the ROAD
Giants fans fired they can’t get the best qb on hey wanted so they went with nabors. They figure we will suck and can draft a qb next year
The giants offense was "conservative" last year because the OL was bad/injured and couldnt block anyone. We couldn't run a play some games, it was horrible.
If we can stay relatively healthy, along with the 5? guys we got on OL in free agency, we should be much improved.
Guaranteed by week 3 half those guys are injured
DJs has glimpses. Rookie year and the playoff game vs Minnesota and the comeback vs Arizona. Hes never had a good oline. Never had a good te or a true #1 wr. Combine that with awful offensive coordinators.
DANNY DIMES! 😎
Someone s got to lose!
Darren wallet was just that. Filling his wallet.
He’s going through a divorce rn
@@KumaManiaRunninWild I might feel sorry about that but in all honesty, I can care less because if I was going through a divorce, I would still have to show up to work and be productive
This is all coffee house smoke. He really don’t know what he is talking about.
I would rather pay Kirk 100 million guaranteed and draft Penix over D. Jones with a cap hit of 47 million.
How about signing Dak next year?
Seahawks fan here I don’t think jones is a bad Qb he just needs protection and receivers
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Stop drinking the Daniel Jones koolaide. Jones is a total bust.
Tanking
Nope, just riding with the guy they are still under contract with for the next year.
@@20Unknown Let's see how they do this year 😆
@@BlueBarrier782 That's the idea. Wait and see... unfortunately.
Giants are horrible look at the depth chart
All the media said the Giants were done with Jones. Yet, Penix was available and the Giants passed.
jones is a loser teir 3 QB, and it will be another loooosing season
Giants are trash the gm sucks as well as the owners. This team will have ok Defense and the worst offense.
Next season, Daniel Jones will set single-season passing records for passer rating (123.6), completions (491), passing yards (5,484), touchdown passes (56), set single-season rushing records by a quarterback for rushing attempts (177), rushing yards (1,214), and rushing touchdowns (16), and win NFL MVP and Comeback Player of the Year honors as well as his 1st Super Bowl ring with the Giants.
Garofalo has no clue what he is talking about. Pathological liars him and Eisen.
The truth is that people who love to dog on Daniel Jones are the most likely people to never have been part of a team that doesn't work, and have probably not accomplished much in life. Dude has never had a consistent system, consistent health, consistent teammates, or any kind of consistent support outside of the coaches believing in him. They obviously see something we don't, and i do remember some game tape of DJ trucking dudes like Josh Allen and making the playoffs, so.
yeah and where did that get you?! he’s not a top 40 QB.
As Eagles fan, I love this news LOL
Jalen Looked great last year down the stretch. Thank God they keep adding elite talent around him just to look mid as a passer.
@@rjdav15 lol Agreed 😂
Dude went to a SB and is a winner period. I hate the eagles but that dude is better than jones. What has anyone seen in him???? It’s year 6 and it’s the same excuses! And stop with the line gave up all these sacks. Jones is responsible as well. For example… look at week 1 against the cowboys. This dude was chased to his left and instead of THROWING THE BALL AWAY he ran out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage equaling a sack!
@@terrencethomas4787 he's a winner on a great roster period. Couldn't imagine his OL giving up the most sacks in NFL history and throwing to scrubs that won't bail him out like smith and brown do. Hurts is mid. Put him on the Giants the last 5 years and he'd be reciting extra sappy instagram quotes and bible verses lol.
@@rjdav15yeah but he’s not and he’s a top 3 QB in the league. Not even an Eagles fan.
The giants are giving up on this season. Get the other needed parts and get the qb next year.
Giants will be looking for a coach in 8 games.
Yeah let’s just keep puking our guts out and turning over coaching staffs that’s the answer never give anyone anymore than 2 years🙄
That won't happen. Not at all. Schoen and Daboll's leash are MUCH longer than most casual fans think. Steve Tisch is running this operation at this moment, as he threatened John Mara at the end of Joe Judge's reign. Mara wanted to keep Judge and Gettleman for stability, but Tisch said to let them go and to look outside the organization, or Mara would lose Tisch's 50% stake in the Giants. Schoen and Daboll are under contract with Daniel Jones for one more year, then they will get their guy. THAT is when the clock starts on their regime pressure.
Unfortunately I think Daboll wants survive a disaster 2024 with jones. I think Daboll will get another job though.
@@scruffd0g193Daboll will survive for sure.
But just protect the QB. Y’all forget y’all gave up the most sacks in nfl history in the modern era right? 85 sacks is an embarrassment, no wonder why he got injured, Tyrod got injured, and a 3rd stringer got playing time.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924For real it is crazy how so many people crap on Jones for being bad but then they just don't mention thr fact that the Oline was basically parted like the red sea most of the year.
The number of plays where I saw one of the line men just watch the defender as they ran by was crazy to me.
Jones may not be the best qb out there but the guy can play I mean just look at what he managed to do 2022 season with limited weapons. Everyone just needs to chill and give him a chance when he should have some better protection and potential weapons this season and then we can go from there.
The Patriots and Giants ARE NOT in the same division.
That is true. Washington and the giants are though. That's why he said it would be unprecedented if the giants would have traded up to the 2nd pick with a division opponent.