Why I Left Freemasonry
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- Why I left Freemasonry
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Question… why do the teachings stay inside and not given to the masses I’ve always wondered but after doing my own studying I have learned so much more that most masons that I run into do not know or understand . But that’s besides the fact . My biggest concern is why aren’t masons telling the truth about who exactly the story of hyram is truly about and the meaning behind him being hit on the head and knocked unconscious here in the north gate . Because we all are masons . As you should know it simply means mother and son . So why keep the knowledge secluded when it’s the birthright of the people to know the sciences and pass down the knowledge which in my opinion could help society in so many different ways . Even down to the history of the fez and where it truly comes from as well as why the tassel is tied down . (Mine shall forever move freely 360 ) for knowledge is infinite and so is the mind . Karma is very real and the universe has its way of working things out . Seeing as how we are in the age of the Aquarius many things hidden in darkness will soon come to light. For everything that is in secret is sacred . Peace and love to you my brother . I do not come from a place of hate but I do feel that as masons and leaders we should also do our part in uplifting humanity. Not just with charity but with knowledge and love as well
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You made the right decision to leave. Ametica is completely screwed up and destroyed because of this organisation and their sick and twisted views of life including their views of children
@@erikjackson8120if you and the American public knew the truth about them every single one of temples would be burnt down. Think of the movie Sound of Freedom. And it's much worst than that
You really didn't say anything except how bored you were
What were you looking for? The Illuminati? The Ballonasquatty wit de badoomadotty because some gangsta done taid to?
That is a problem though. If you want people to show up, there has to be something at least semi interesting to show up for, or else it feels like a waste of time....which it very well may be.
@@TomPark1986 Exactly.. why do all the rituals and all that just for nothing in return . Just do good in the community and donate w out having to do all these rituals and memorizations for no reason
these guys that complain about things being "boring" , first bring something to the table yourself, whether you are new in an organization or an old timer, if you think that things are "boring" step up, plan something, form a committee, maybe the guys that aren't bored are the few that do EVERYTHING, especially listening to the bored cry-babies who want and expect everything done for them.
He’s not alone
Great commentary I have been attending a masonic revival lodge. That has increased its membership in attendance for the past 10 years. By raising its dress code to a white glove standard. And having a member give a 10 to 15 minute talk about the sock education of some variety. This talk is first written 3 to 4 pages and presented to the Master for approval before it’s presented in the rain so in essence like going to a lecture or symposium everything. The meeting location is a 250-year-old building with all the accoutrements of such.
I personally believe that this is the way forward. Masonic lodges were always a special place, they still are, but we need to revive the finer elements.
in a setting like this, I would love to listen
This is fantastic!
You should go to the lodge on Martha's vineyard older than our nation be it.
Sock education? Wat?
Saying a whole bunch of nothing
Well, I gathered that, humans in free masonry also got the reality nerf applied to em.
Just like the last seasons class in W.O.W.
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MUST. BE. a mason.
There are quite a few of you lurking around on people's videos. Is this just a really old cult? You guys seem to search for these videos just to make stupid comments. You really should re-evaluate what you are doing.
I understood or heard nothing he said just sounded like mumble humble
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Do you guys lurk around online to look for men who speak out and then gaslight them. It's really intriguing why you would spend your time doing that. Is it your job or are you just really really bored?
Great video, brother. It should be grand and marvelous. We have several younger brothers, including myself, in the line at my lodge and we are working very hard to bring the excitement and wonder back to life. I want to see a return to the more esoteric roots of Masonry.
I'm an Ex-freemason if you value your soul run from wickedness they are all Masters of deception
@@koolkass5883 What is wicked about them? What sort of deception occurs?
By esoteric roots ...you mean Satanic roots ...right?
Thanks for kindness through your reply. I wish you all the best and hope you will find what you are seeking. God made you and I, so I love you brother. But remember, there can be smoke without fire...🤗
I agree with many of your comments on the fraternity brother. I come from a small town lodge in Maine and many of our meetings are like that. My younger brother and I are the youngest members their besides a high school friend of mine, I’m 29 so there’s a huge age gap. We’re implementing a lodge education program where we talk about different Masonic related topics every lodge meeting. Luckily the older members are all for it and we have a few that have vast knowledge on esoteric subjects. One thing that helped me when I first became a Mason was jumping into the officers line. I learned A LOT about our ritual, also talking to older brethren and reading books about our fraternity. Joining Scottish Rite really opened my eyes up though, that’s what I really was looking for in Masonry, luckily I found a notch. Keep doing good work brother, I’m glad too see there’s many of us out their that want more from this magnificent fraternity and will do things to help propel it to the prestige of our past.
Sam Wilson, SW Parian Lodge #160 Corinna, ME
That's awesome you joined the Scottish rite. I wonder if many lodges are named that way or what cuz I live near the Scottish rite temple
Taking over the world, one pancake breakfast at a time! 😂
Yah he's not going to say what they really do he's all cap
Taking over the world parts done. Their
Just tryna figure out how to tell us without being purged
@@Sunkenballs12 yep, should be illegal to have allegiance to anyone but our republic when you are a government employee ( and employee of the people) it's going to be the death of America
Now I KNOW that you're a real Brother once you said that!!
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I'm sorry you had this experience. Yes it's sort of the same in my Lodge but we try to do things with the wives and families away from the Lodge. Just friendly outings and family fun. That's critical for a good Lodge. It has to be about Family and trying to be better men not just fundraising/money. Masonry should be a benefit to a Brother and his family not a burden.
Bruh y’all are satanist pedophiles. Stop the bullshit
I read Manly P. Hall books a lot and many other books written by 33rd Degree Freemasons and I have been attaining insight and powers but I am lonely with no fellowship and I wonder if Freemasonry would help me to find people like myself or just result in me being disappointed. I wish there was something like a parapsychology research group in my area too that would be even better. Also vows of secrecy I do not believe in unless it is the password to someones bank account or phone or it is about their medical records.
@@FringeWizard2 okay satanist lmfao 🫵🤡
Thank you for letting us know this is a nice piece of information because in Long Beach so used to have a Freemason Temple and they also do so do they have the Scottish Rite Cathedral.
Yup 💓
I left for this same exact reason. I thought I was the only one who felt this way about the lodge activities.
There are many who feel the same way.
I'm convinced that the best days of our fraternity are ahead of us though, which is partially why I returned.
The lodge is only as potent as the people in it.
Try becoming involved in more than your blue lodge. If your experience doesn't change, what you're looking for is either 1) not accessible to you or 2) not available in your jurisdiction. Note number 1 because that's the most difficult to overcome.
The Law of One could offer you all the answers you are seeking
fuck ALL satanist pedophile filth! Free masonry should be abolished and outlawed!
I thought I was going to have to correct you but I loved the way you delivered this reopening and everything I’ve been thinking I am in total agreement with you thank you my brother
It's important to keep an open mind and to get to know people. Spiritual rewards are there waiting. Just because the stepping stones of ritual can seem mundane and without meaning because the majority can't see that meaning, doesn't mean the meaning doesn't exist. It's up to each of us to get past this fear of the unknown and keep pressing forward.
What about the satanic abuse and rituals
Stumbled across your video and clicked because of the intriguing title. I’m currently studying my FC degree in my home state of Alabama and have thus far been fascinated with it.
What stood out to me what advice given to me the night of my EA, “you only get out of it what you put in to it.” It’s up to us to strive and work for better and I’ll do all I can to help better my lodge.
Good video man, enjoyed it.
All I can say is you need to have the drive to learn, absorb, and practice what you were presented. Alot of IT is open for you but it is YOU to seek it out.
A friend offered me to join but I declined... I wanted to find my own way outside of the lodge (it's a sigma thing), and he's my reference as to how far I'm getting without the traversing the degrees.
lol "iT's A sIgMa ThInG, wHiCh Is WhY i FeEl ThE nEeD tO tElL tHe InTeRnEt HoW sIgMa I aM." Having a community of spiritual folks to talk to about rituals, practice, ethics, esotericism, occultism, etc is not an impediment or a crutch; its another avenue to continue to hone, practice, and expand on one's own journey. It doesn't make you "better" or "more sigma" for not being a part of the order. The fact that you feel compelled to compare your metaphysical phallus to this other individual shows a lack of maturity, and highlights a deficient understanding of spiritual matters. You would get chewed up and spit out if you joined any serious spiritual organization, which sounds like the exact thing you need to put your ego in check. This doesn't negate the progress that you have make individually, but it does underpin the potential handicap that you have unnecessarily placed upon yourself because you are afraid of losing yourself, your identity, drive, passion, and understanding if you were confronted with other peoples ideologies, practices, knowledge, and understandings, which shows how frail your actual understandings are to begin with.
Yeah I’m not gonna lie if youre using terms like alpha sigma and beta still then You haven’t gotten very far at all that’s about as brain rot as one can get.
Thank you for this information. I'm glad I came across you. Great day Sr.
Sadly, this isn't just a Texas problem. You hit so many items right on the head!
Brother, I can appreciate your words. From what I have gathered myself, many lodges are heading down that same road. There are a few of us that do try to carry the torch though, in these dark times.
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It's a good thing
My home lodge (one I joined when I moved back to my home town in Mississippi, I became a Mason in Oklahoma in 2019) don't do much fundraising, it's a small town with like 100 people so it's understandable. But as a guy who's about to be 25 I learned that IMPROVING MYSELF THROUGH MASONRY (the thing that every Mason hears since joining) is what makes it worthwhile. Meetings are usually fun/saying who didn't show but what you learn from the craft work is what makes it worthwhile. My life has been changed and I myself have seen a huge improvement in how I treat/approach/talk to people and its really helped me be a better person
That's great! Thanks for sharing your story! :)
“Improving myself through satanism” look at yourself you NPC.
Awesome video, we run into the same issue at our PHA lodges. Make Masonry Cool Again!
The question is, why you joined?
Mark Alan not everyone has the same religious beliefs some people dont think of the bible as a historical truth either
But they still respect the religious beliefs of others (some people)
Well in all serious the Lodge can use any religious book.. In my lodge we have the Bible and the Quran.
Tnx, for sharing.
Green Fox - You are 100% wrong on all three counts. Maybe do some research before making stupid, ignorant and ill informed comments next time idiot...
This is so me lol "guys when is Chapter gonna finally get scary?"
I am MM... I consider that it is not for all Men’s, sometimes they also get intense, many enter and want to find everything quickly and easily. Everything its in time, there is no rush.I entered the order at a young age 23 I am 32 years old and I have learned a lot and I have applied that knowledge in my life..
Good video brother, there are a lot of things we don't understand at the start of everything. Most lodges don't have the talent or skill to Brand us correctly.
You are absolutely correct!
Thank you for your insight Brother. Know that there are some things we need to help the Fraternity grow and to come back to its roots. This is the hard first step to admit we need to change and grow amongst some of the Elders, but each younger generation we bring in changes can happen. Thank you for your words of insight again Brother.
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Lol
Very inspirational. Keep up the good work brother. I have been in your shoes multiple times!
Thanks for the kind words!
I hope you change your mind and return. Doing service for the community is good.make yourself better. Good luck.
“The Lord Jesus is my Shepherd, I shall not want.” former freemason.
Praise God! You're a strong man!
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And a free man. Congratulations bro 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Woah praise God...Jesus is the only way Amen!
And this has absolutely nothing to do with Freemasonry or how wonderful it is. And and not everyone can be a mason nor are they cut out to be a Mason if they finally do get in
My Lodge is alive and on fire, we have members of all ages. We show up hours before opening and leave hours after. I love my Brothers and we normally see each other through the month. The work is necessary and charity is beyond important and we must never forget that. Remember your obligations 👍🏼
David Contreras and what do you do at the meetings?
am interested to join
Glad to hear it's on fire! Let me know if I can help or watch!🔥
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took the words right out of my mouth
Lol Quits the craft and starts out the video by Greeting us as “brothers” lol once a Mason always a Mason
Great work, you caught me!
Or maybe you didn't watch the full video, so you don't understand anything?
Lol
Wrong. Once a mason not always a mason. Learn that.
@Honcho AndOdd A Man who has joined a Lodge and after a while no longer wishes to attend and leaves that Lodge is called an "unattached" Mason.
Even Christians refer to others as Brother, your comment makes 0 Sence, what do you want him to call us? Ex- Brother ? Step-Bro? ?what makes Sence to you?
Greetings and thank you for your perspective in this video.
I have always had the opinion as Pike and Manly P. Hall that the best Freemasons were already practicing Freemasonry in its esoteric form before they were ever initiated into a Lodge.
Which means that a Lodge could be a place where people who already have been practicing to selfless acts of Freemasonry and seeking spiritual fulfillment could find more truths through going through the degrees and studying the likes of Pike, Hall and Wilmhurst among others.
When I joined my Lodge I was quickly dismayed by the eagerness to grow numbers and the expectations placed on me while I fought bladder cancer and was caring for a sick wife, the expectations that I should never miss a meeting and the “what have you done for us lately?” Attitudes I encountered.
I knew there was something more pure about Freemasonry than this, something that changes a person to be better, so I started reading Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike and then I began a blog where I would post a few paragraphs from a chapter starting with chapter one and add my opinion as to what I believed Pike was teaching and how we could apply his words to our own lives today. That blog lead to a monthly article in The Working Tools Magazine and then lead me to form this non-profit which was formed to teach Masonic philosophy as a means to improve society.
I have posted videos regarding Masonic symbolism on my channel and continue to write the Morals and Dogma blog (now on chapter 31).
I do not attend Lodge any longer but I will always promote the virtues of Freemasonry as Freemasonry has indeed changed my
Life and my way of thinking.
Godspeed on your own continued journey. S&F Johnny
@Universal Freemason I was shocked and dismayed to read of the way that you were treated. In most Lodges, those with problems like yours are offered emotional and practical support, kindness and understanding. Your Lodge was being run very badly, by the sound of it and those in positions of influence therein, should be removed. We'd much rather you stayed away from the Lodge while you were sorting your problems out.. the last thing we want is for Masonry to disturb the harmony of the home.
In English Freemasonry (I'm an English Mason) and I'm sure in 99% of constitutions the order of priority for members is
1. Family
2. Work
3. Freemasonry.
If your Freemasonry disturbs any of the first two, we'd encourage the Mason not to come to meetings.
You seem like a good man and an excellent Mason. My advice to you is to take your time.. but join another Lodge. When you find a Lodge you think may be worthwhile, attend socials.. get togethers.. barbecues etc. Get to know the guys and their families. Then, if you think they would be good for you and vice versa, apply to join. You would be an asset to any Lodge you joined and the fact you are not enlightening someone with your knowledge and attitude is a real shame.
The realist thank you for the exceptionally kind words.
There will be a day when I will seek to be a member of a lodge again if I can find a lodge with the intentions of education of esoteric ideals and growth is secondary.
In the meantime I am finding much fulfillment with operating Universal Freemason Research Society and I do see people change their viewpoints towards Masonic ideals and change their lives as a result.
I will heed your advice, Brother. And your encouragement was much needed. S&F
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As a newer Mason (Just received my Fellowcraft last evening). I am wondering why you did not go over to the York or Scottish Rite. Everything I've been told of the Scottish Rite is that the degrees are a series of what I would assume is a theatre production in a way. As I do understand it can take years to get all of the degrees quickly. Thank you for this video, however.
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Congrats, I had 2 Templars drive 3 hours to spend an hour and gave me my petition, I’ve talked to them everyday since and best decision I ever made. Met the masons in my town brought my petition in. Awesome people. They’re also Scottish rite and Shriners. Best decision I’ve ever made. I’m new to the area I live in and keep to myself, they have been great, very welcoming to me the wife and our daughter. I have no complaints. It’s not the days of the crusaders but it’s a brotherhood and your treated like family, the wives and kids get to meet. I have no complaints where I came from and type of people I hung out with in the past, were the same way but different walk of life. I was never judged and I was never involved in any bs I watched people and learned from their mistakes. I’m on my spiritual journey now, I found the rosacrutian order is perfect for me. One run in with a cop years ago changed my whole life. To this day we are tight and I owe him my life. No it wasn’t from an arrest. Army vet and old neighbor.
My husband is in the Scottish rite. How does this differ from masons? (Which he’s also in). There is a Templar something or other too he has Been invited to. I don’t ask because I know he can’t say. I just try to be supportive.
@Amy Knox Scottish Rite and York Rite are called appendent bodies. They are just sub-groups within Freemasonry. You cannot join any of those groups without first being a Mason.
They all run by Zionist …. Druid the den the Viking all son of Dan … Saxson all son of Issac … Pilates in masons … is same pillar of king soloamen ….. they teach the kahabblah … closely link to masons teaching …. They needed there hands in system so no one know it them waging wars in Middle East … Scottish right do a play of king soloamen … u also can never get rid of a Jew in any lodge they have prime vip cos massed but Zionist …. Not all Jews r bad don’t get me wrong … ba mason to much go back to king Solomon
Maybe the reason why you looked, is the reason why you didn't find what you were looking for.
Zero lol sell you soul to who?
There’s nothing to find. And what most people are looking for they can find without the lodge
Because you have a personal agenda! You havea mercenary motive!
I know how he feels and what he is saying, after my 3rd, the meetings were uneventful to say the lease. We literally talked about the bills,fundraising, next meeting, and last meeting notes.
Exactly!
Yeeeeep... Just expected to pass on the torch and rope in more members.
This is the Same reason I became in active. also as young Man trying to get my life on a track of financially security, which becomes more difficult because you have an obligation to your brothers and your lodge so you end up doing more charity which is not bad but leaves little time for anything else. if that makes sense.
That's the bottom rungs. Meanwhile the higher ups are all wealthy from inheritance money and go into manipulating society as their actual jobs.
Sure, "charity".
@@deceiver123mall you idiots who have never even been close to a lodge always think you know what the higher ups do the shit is so ironic considering you believe you know more about a secret society than it’s actual members just goes to show how fucking daft you people are. Funny but sad
You do bring up some great points but I also feel blue lodge get very monotonous if there is no degree work going on, I’ve seen many meetings killed by the secretaries desk, some lodges are more active than others... I almost walked away for the same reasons you stated, But once I got involved in concordant bodies it re-ignites my passion for freemasonry again
Very true brother, that is basically what we most of the time.
I appreciate the share and I am a part of a few fraternal organizations. I believe you have to have a vision for what you are looking to bring to wherever you serve. If you don't have a vision you will always end up serving someone else's vision. Yes, I appreciate what I get from my lodge, but in my interview process they asked me what I was looking to contribute to the lodge. I believe that was key. My vision is to assist in building the lodge and go deeper in my personal knowledge. I would again say that you must have a vision for where you see yourself within the mission of the brotherhood and you can add or you will always be disappointed. The scriptures say, "People perish for a lack of vision". I have no tone to my share, but I pray it makes us think about our personal vision or lack thereof and being clear about that instead of possibly expecting something or someone else to give you a vision. Blessings.
I agree that it's important for the lodge to offer what the petitioner is looking for. Each lodge has its own culture.
I agree. I visited a few lodges before I decided to join one to make sure it fit what I was looking for.
Hit the nail right on the head. I'm glad you came back.
Thanks, it was one of the best decisions I could have made at the time.
Masonic Improvement I wish that more brothers had the same reaction. I'm in the process of starting a new lodge here in Utah that will hopefully provide the experience you and a lot of others have been looking for. Any advice?
Have you read Laudable Pursuit? www.knightsofthenorth.com/documents/laudablepursuit.pdf
Challenger2060 Hi I would like to join a lodge but I have to know a mason to be one, I live in Utah as well
Google local lodges and find out when they meet. Go visit them before they have their meeting and introduce yourself. Many lodges tend to eat before or after a meeting and most would be glad to get to know someone that's interested in joining.
As an EA degree holder, I get both sides of this. the mundane parts combined with the endless fund raising without much else is off putting but it gives some of the older members a purpose and makes them feel useful in a world that has seemingly passed them by. But to ask for pageantry for all meetings would also be exhausting. One thing that may help excite and retain new and younger members is to try and capitalize on the resurgence of debate. Hold lectures and debates in with the public is invited. Show engagement with the topics of the day while hearkening back to the wisdom that brought us to this day. This is just an idea that may entice more intellectual and savy youth to be excited by Freemasonry.
We’re you expecting more of a “spiritual” experience or something? I’m confused as to why the fund raising and meetings are “mundane” in an organization that supposed to be this way...
Shows me thru the discernment of God that these videos are an attempt to “re define” what free masonry is to the public.
When you have the light of Christ Jesus it will SHOW YOU these people without a shred of covering.
Anybody who makes this type of video is attempting to re define the nature of what has already been exposed.
I appreciate your service 🤣
I do respect that you got into freemason for good reasons, but that doesn't mean you should speak about them because of your bad experience. People do the same thing about Jehovah's Witnesses. This is wrong because when people listen to this JW bashing, they think they are right, but their not. These bashers should understand that having man's way is not the right thing to do because when you listen to the next person you then find out he has a different opinion. Don't you think that you should study the bible with someone who has faith? What some people don't know about the truth might hurt them. Satan owns this world so why would anybody listen to this devil? I'm not saying that JW have more members than any other religion, but what I can tell you for sure, is that in 1981 they had about 3 million members.
Today, they have over 9 million members. Because of this large increase do you think they are crazy? People should not listen to everything on the TH-cam videos due to false information. People are so naive. It's much better to hear it from the horse's mouth.Go to meetings and find out. Donations are not done under the nose; it's only volunteer.
EA myself, and being young (below 30) I think debates would be an extraordinary way to bring in new members. Even charge a small fee for tickets as a way to fundraise. It would allow people of diff viewpoints to come together for a night and if interested petition the lodge. Don’t see why that’s inherently bad, I think more young men are hungering for purpose and attainment, why wouldn’t the fraternity show itself to be a place where they can do that?
Don't know if you guys are still an EA or master Mason yet or not but I get what you guys are talking about. But once you start learning about what happens during degrees and actually listen and understand the stories, it starts to make sense. Don't give up on the craft just yet because you will miss put on so much value and reward through yourself.
Thanks for telling my story, I hope to go back as well!
Please do not go back. The oaths and curses are spiritually dangerous and can bring serious problems to you and your family.
3:49 the elite knocked and came to get him back in line
Am I a 4th degree mason yet?
“Stick to the script bitch”
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Yeah
I would never join a club that would have me as a member.
Underrated comment lmao
What about Sam's Club/Costco.... I bet you are a member card holder. 🤣
Dark Humour!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeremy Kirkpatrick Groucho Marks
Hahaha!
I've experienced a lot of the same issues. I keep my dues paid up because it means (or feels like it does) a lot and I know there is some good personal growth to be had. But, I likely need another lodge, hoping it's a little more than ice cream socials.
There has to be more.
Yeah they save the destruction of America for the higher degrees.
Please rather receive Jesus. Free masonry has satan at its root!
Hit the 4th degree and the fun starts 😏
I'm a little confused, are you still paying your dues? Or did you take a demit? Are you still a member? Your lodge seems to function differently from mine here in Maine.
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It’s not just your lodge I had the same problem at my lodge in Florida. I dropped out at senior warden. But as I was moving thru the chairs I was heavily involved with York and Scottish rite. Learned a lot more than blue lodge for sure. Being a 5th gen mason I was truly disappointed as well nobody cares about ritual for them it’s all about title. So I left as well.
Nice job bro it's the same in the UK
This exemplifies what is seen in many craft lodges today. It has become lodge business and kudos to brethren . Many toil to attain titles for self worth. This is not the craft, the old men when I joined were a different breed. The focus was on fraternity, family and self betterment . Without this focus you may as well join the elks or rotary. Education, introspection and guidance is elemental. The “G” is not just a letter but central to the tools provided. The craft is not only within the confines of each lodge but what each member exhibits in their daily walk. The tools are provided, we must hold each other accountable how we use them. Otherwise we are therefore only groups of men meeting for the sake of such; without daily labor the exercise is futile.
G is for Gematria, which is where geometry came from. The Bible talks about the Antichrist, and how CRAFT will prosper in his hand. Psalms 118:22 says,"The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner." Do you really kid yourself and think that King David and Jesus was only talking about the pharisees? HE WAS REFERING TO YOU GUYS TOO! Where do you think all this secret knowledge came from? There is nothing new under the Sun. You trust in Egypt. Remember what the Lord did to Egypt at the hand of Moses and Aaron? These little clubs are adultry against the Lord. When you see a G and compass on a grave stone, you might consider where their soul is. Repent before it's too late because Jesus is coming back.
@@meganpurcell8781 what translation do you refer to?
When an individual is Entered, Pasted & Raised you almost have to know what you’re looking for before you get involved otherwise a person can be turned off & disillusioned. I joined at 23yrs old & was put off at first & became inactive. Now after studying deeper & gaining more insight I definitely am glad I joined. It is extremely enriching & can definitely add to one’s spiritual & intellectual growth & be a benefit to a young man’s life I’m 50 now. Again YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING FOR BEFORE YOU JOIN. PLUS DEFINITELY KNOW IT WHEN YOU FIND IT.
The "stated meetings" are basically a board meeting; business, bills, mail, respond to invitations, coordinate calendars and make plans. Did you expect the meetings to have jesters and jugglers?
Wot you say is so true..I'm a mark master mason here in the uk and I've noticed there seems to be a old boys club within the lodge. So many brothers seem to be stuck in there old ways and don't care about new members and they don't care about them ..they don't even realise that new members carry on the traditional ways off freemasonry but they don't care as they will have left or retired..the biggest problem I have found is at the meal after certain people put cards down on the tables so they can all sit together and I've even had my card moved numerous times without been asked.i thought it was about meeting others but how can you wen you always seem to be outcast from others..no body seems to want to rock the boat with these groups...as a Mark master mason haven't I earned the right to sit were I want ..things need to change in so many ways in freemasonry (not the traditional ways) But I know 1people have left while I've been in and I'm now thinking off going down that rd.im not putting the time in if all I get is moved around to suit others .it's a shame as there is some great brothers but also there is some ignorant brothers who don't care (old school as we have named them) ..shame I think I'm going to leave but I suppose some things will never change..thanks for listening I've had my moan now lol
Some of your points are very valid. When I joined the lodge, I was looking for something with deeper and more esoteric meaning. I thought degree work and even stated meetings would carry more formality than they did. What I quickly learned was that stated meetings were mostly "old men bitching about a nickel", and degree work was mostly performed by unprepared individuals who had about as much appreciation for ceremony as they did the hot-dog and chili dinner that came before it.
That said, like you, I did some reading and some learning on my own, and also talked to others. Unfortunately, our fraternity has been changed and shaped by the world. In the younger days of our fathers and grandfathers, they did not have the societal distractions we do. There was no evening TV, kids in travel ball, restaurants for entertainment, etc. Even church was largely a place you went on Sundays -- not someplace that demanded your involvement 3-5 days a week. They had the TIME to invest in the fraternity, and likely derived a lot more from it. Also, the fraternity bonded many of those men together as they went off to fight in various wars and conflicts.
This is not to say that is entirely lost. There are still places I'm aware of that still conduct degree work in tuxedos with white gloves and candles, or hold meetings or degree work in wooded areas. Many lodges now are indeed largely 'service organizations' that are about involving the whole family -- because they think that's what people want. However, I tend to desire higher standards, more selectivity (enough with the one-day classes!), and more formality. I would much more prefer a pre-work dinner of chicken Parmesan and wine than old hot dogs and black coffee. And I'd prefer the lodge to be a place where people spoke of art and recited poetry -- not just sitting around talking about glory days.
Maybe someday I'll find this lodge, but for now I'm content to study on my own.
I dont think people want to join cause of formalities and ceremonies. They want to join like minded people, people with vision, curiosity and a desire to learn and apply knowledge in their day to day life, to get both guidance and support for the ideas of progress.
I agree. But took off chicken parmigiana, it cause strokes
The lodge I attend wears white gloves, Full suits, Steak and potatoes, high quality roast beef, beautiful lodge. However I did have an experience with a lodge in TX while I lived there with lower quality things. I was hoping for more formality because it makes the ritual and allegories more "real" if that makes sense. And your ears pick up more if you have respect for your environment.
Read Julius Evola Ride The Tiger. I am a hermit that lives a very different and perilous life. But modernity is ruining any chance of most people awakening to higher powers.
@@FringeWizard2 hitler esotericism
Study "sacred geometry"
The Creator became the Creation.
The Creation is the Creator.
Know thyself. We are all One.
I had the same experience. Watching members bicker and fight told me that there's nothing enlightened about what they had to teach.
These guys would rip off a non Mason without a second thought in any business dealings too.
I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. 😕
Bickering, fighting, and whining about attendance being low. The problem of many lodges.
Sounds like the issues aren't with the craft but the opinions that others have concerning the craft. 🤔....Sounds personal.
I personally saw what you said in the last sentence. This person had no morals what so ever, would steal, lie, cheat on his wife...etc. One of the most despicable people I have ever met.
Nice talk, thank you for sharing that. I completely relate to your perspective, and can tell you that when I joined, it was during a time when I'd decided I'd needed to start a new path in life. My family had been involved and all of that so I decided to try and take part in some of my family's heritage. Right form the beginning I was met with intimidation and I'll never forget the Master of the lodge standing there next to the table as I has handing in my application with a directed intense look that said "get out." He lightened up later, but it served as a challenge to me. After my first degree I moved states and was brought back in after meeting someone form a local lodge in the new town who helped arrange a conferral to finish my degree work. Same story. Master at the new lodge was just outright nasty, taking it as a further challenge to try and prove that I was "good enough" The lodge, unfortunately was in dire straits with barely enough officers to fill the line, and so I ended up stepping in as JD. As you mention, ongoing meetings about fundraisers... on and on about the same stuff, BUT I've developed a rapport with the other guys at the lodge and think it a wonderful opportunity to socialize whereas otherwise I would have nothing else to do. I've since decided to step away due to the prospect of it consuming so much time, and now as a JW approaching Master I see that there are going to be obligations over and above that which I'll be able to dedicate myself to. So, being there ultimately does not serve me, but the lodge is at least served by having my butt in an office but really by no other means, and the only thing keeping me from stepping away is that I would leave the lodge in a predicament by doing so, especially due to a gap in the current officer's line. If I left, there would be no installed Senior officers, so I can't simply leave everyone hanging like that. The gap will be closed after next year and so I expect there to be no problem. It's been interesting.
Can you put me in, please 🙏🙏🙏
It's the same in my lodge, brother. No sooner do we raise a younger guy, and he attends a few meetings, and then disappears. We do nothing but have our regular meetings and three other events a year. There's no incentive, there's nothing to keep interest except camaraderie. I'll be WM next year, and am struggling to find a way to generate / keep interest. Your video was helpful, thank you!
You're very welcome! I'm sorry to hear you're having the same problems at your lodge, brother.
Becomes wonderful when you spark your own interest
I don’t know anything which is why I read and watch a lot to gain information but I think you had the experience you did because you probably were not important enough in the outside world to learn the importance and secrets quote unquote of the inside world. Thanks for this video.
@christopher solo It is of course good to read and watch in order to learn. The trick is to activate the "bollocks" filter in these comments section. Because there are an awful lot of bollocks going around!
That is my experience at this very moment in time. I am bored to tears and I don’t understand what I signed up for. I haven’t attended in a year. It was always the same thing. I do a lot of charity through my church and I like that stuff but where is the knowledge, mystery, wonder, anything? I haven’t gone to other lodges yet but I plan to.
The good stuff begins at 34th to 360th degrees and not every lodge has it also 99% of masons only think there are 3 degrees or 33 degrees
@Shane Collins have you even studies the First Three Degrees? Have you applied the esoteric thinking of what they represent to you? It has been said many times, yet it does not lessen the importance of the phrase "you only ever get out of Freemasonry what you put in". Return to your Lodge. Speak to the longest serving, wisest Mason you know and tell him your concerns. you cannot expect anyone to be a mindreader. Ask him how you should proceed to rekindle the interest you once had. Good luck.
@@cazimim3375 360 Degrees? Not in any regular order I've ever heard of.
Bravo. I'm a Past Master in Pennsylvania and, as other's have mentioned, I can identify with everything you've said. No one in my family had been a Mason. I was very active going through the chairs and couldn't wait to arrive at practice and meetings. Once my year was finished, I tried moving on to both the Scottish Rite and the York Rite, but I didn't find the same camaraderie I'd experienced in Blue Lodge. I'd also watched as my friends, who were involved like me, but older, passed away. Eventually, I felt burned out, and while I maintain membership, I no longer participate. Still, the time I spent there made me a better person, and it was the greatest time of my life.
Really? Best time of your life? Was it a power trip? Just asking honestly, don't you think they are subversive to our republic?
@@fucku3460 Your level of ignorance is on display for everyone to see. Each meeting begins with a prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance.
Six million members worldwide... over 2 million Masons in North America... 98,000 in my state... over 780 members in my Lodge alone. If Freemasons were doing anything "subversive to our republic," do you THINK there might be two men with recordings and hidden camera footage who would come forward and appear on the front page of every newspaper and TV news program in the world? Where are they?
And by the way, like so many of our members, I'm a Marine Corps Veteran.
@David Smith thank you for sharing brother. I’m a Master Mason on 8/18 in Blue Lodge down in Reading, Pa.
I’m so looking forward to what’s ahead brother.
I’m a Junior Deacon for the new Worshipful Master coming in for 2022.
I don’t go by what some say, I decide for myself and I’m so happy I became a Mason.
It even lifted my faith in God as well. Thanks again for sharing brother.
@Justin Haffner Several points of your description don't sound like what I'm familiar with. You can't be forced to do anything in Freemasonry. There are no "plays" in Blue Lodge -- that's more of what takes place in the Scottish Rite degrees. The only people in a tux are the officers, although in most jurisdictions, you're expected to dress in a respectable manner, ie a coat and tie much as you would in church.
@@DavidSmith-qo1se AGREED...here in my Lodge, we are required to wear a suit and tie, unless an officer as you said in a Tux they must be in.
Call them plays Justin, or whichever you wish brother, but remember one thing NO ONE forces you to become a Mason, not even your Dad, that is the golden rule of being a Mason, is believing in a higher power, and never recruiting someone, by forcing it on someone unless they ask YOU about it.
Just sharing my thoughts brother, I hope you will also if you sit in the chairs or wherever you sit, YOU take it in, cause what and how you look at being a Mason makes the difference, you get what you put into it.
Best to you brother.
Womelsdorf, Pa Lodge 307
I can understand what you are saying.However as for my experience in Jamaica 🇯🇲 the comradery of being apart of a support system for the betterment of society and force for good. That is what is satisfying and makes me value the fraternity./G\
Great perspective!
You'll only run into this problem if you only attend stated meetings. They're boring and necessary. The real fun is the comradery you share with the brothers during degree work and discussion outside of lodge. Table lodges, Scottish rite, York rite, etc. Being an officer will change your perspective
I completely agree! Stated meetings are business meetings. It's what we do before and after the stated meetings that create the most value.
Very well said brother. I'm in Louisiana and have been pushing for esoteric study classes and other educational/historical lessons and/or debate sessions within the lodge meeting for three years, and every time I mention it, everybody in there over sixty looks at me like I'm crazy. The few younger members we have are interested, the older gents just want to have coffee, read the minutes, and go home. And you're right, it's like that in every lodge I visit over here. A little better in the York and Council lodges and in the Templars, but even then, most of our best conversations and discussions occur before or after the actual meetings. Be well!
Bro, I'm here in Australia and this is exactly the same story. All the oldies do F all freemasonry, unless its degree work to get one more on the books... and treat it like a social event.
Brother, I'm in this boat with you. I struggle with going to meetings b/c of EXACTLY what you're talking about in this video. A problem i've noticed as i've traveled to other lodges, including mine, is that the older brothers don't like change and won't allow us younger (in the Craft) brothers progress us forward. The Craft as a whole needs a make over. Great video.
Fuck all you satanist filth
I'm a Master Mason from the netherlands,loge nr:63. And ouer organisation is about self improvement and mental growth. Iff the loges in america in ure region are only fixsated on making money and act like big shot's because of that, then they have lost the true purpose of why it's founded by hiram abiff. Its all in the mental growth and to see ure self in a humble and perspective light. We have a saying in ouer loge and in the loges i visited and i think all loges in the netherlands say this, And that is, u always stay a first degree mason. Because u always see something new and u always learn more about ureself and the people around u. I think some loges in different country's lose theyre way in the true insight of freemasonery. Good to hear u reflected and try to do something about it. Greet's to u brother.
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😂This actually makes waaaay more sens than this whole video
I left for awhile myself. My current Lodge is awesome and I miss being able to attend because of my work schedule. We have a wide mix of ages and if we aren't having a study night, many are at Lodge just visiting. EAs and up are invited to all meals before meetings, and everything they can attend to keep them interested. In 2017 my Lodge did a total of 37 degrees and most of those guys are still active in the Lodge.
The reason is camaraderie and brotherly bonds of friendship.
Money Montana and how to you now that freemasons sell theirs souls to devil? Did you ever join?
37 degree theirs 360 degrees to life
Whats a study session like?
I quit Freemasonry because the lodge in Delaware is still segregated. I joined and had no idea. I often wondered why it was only white guys in the lodge, but I assumed it was just a matter of interest. Then one night at a meeting two brothers from out of state, one white and one black came to visit our lodge. I was told the black man was not going to be allowed to sit in lodge with us. I was absolutely floored. These men who preached about being good men and good brothers were immediately black balled in my mind. I wanted nothing to do with an organization that could let that happen. I never went back. I never looked back. Good riddance.
Sadly theres racism masonry I'm glad my state is diverse with brothers we have a Haitian lodge the does the state standard but they also do it in french how they do it in Haiti it was intense and wonderful experience also we have a great relationship with our pha brothers.
BECAUSE THE MASONS ARE THE KLAN.
I have had a completely different experience with Freemasonry here in Germany. But good that you were true to yourself.
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Many US lodges are like this. I had the great pleasure of sitting in Lodge in the Phillipines and seeing FC degree, and let me tell you, they take Masonry VERY seriously there. The candidate gave a flawless EA proficiency (2x as long as the long form US proficiency) and when I asked him how long it took him to learn it, he said it took him 2 weeks. The degree event was a full day event with two meals and a break between the sections. No one was in a hurry to leave and we all hung out and talked for hours after. It was very refreshing and I would love to bring some of these practices to my Lodge.
Hello am a Nigerian and would love to be a mason
I had my own expectations of clicking on this video from the Reddit Freemasonry section, and I am pleased that it did NOT meet them. :) Very good video! I am a newish Master Mason myself, and wanted to join when I was somewhat settled in life. Joining the Fraternity can be a daunting experience, whether young or old and Freemasonry, like anything else, is what you make of it. Whether it is joining for service, or fellowship, or serving your community, or for the esoteric meanings, or learning/developing leadership skills, or even all of the above, one can have as a fulfilling experience as one wants to make it in the Craft. It is my personal hope to make my experience in the Craft as meaningful as possible. Keep inspiring, Brother.
Money Montana The best way to combat ignorance is to simply ignore it. Only thing I will state is that I do not worship Satan, have no plans to worship Satan, do not know anyone, Freemasons or otherwise, who worships Satan and, not that it is any of your business, but I do accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
Can you be the first member within your family to join a lodge?
Dennis Shaw Yes you can be the first member in your family. If your interested go on google and type in your city/state(or in my case province) & the term “Freemason” find a local lodge to you and call or email them
MGTOWInBetweener as Freemasonry is not a church or religion (so it does not need to discriminate) but merely requires that its members have a dedicated belief in a supreme god; all monotheistic religions provide a moral fabric that contain virtues and obligations to do the good and right thing. By setting a pre-requisite to characters with an upright moral code, deeper bonds of trust may ensure because you are all coming from a similar moral constitution.
And your comment “look at what they do” haha we meet with people that share our interests some of us attend allot of dinners together and sometimes have drinks over conversations of what we are doing to better ourselves in character or helping each other learn a speech. My lodge currently is planning a bowling night and the following week a potluck dinner --Ooooooohhhh spooky stuff right? What are we going to take over the world one buffet diner and bowling league at a time?
How about if we went to restaurants that haven’t been getting much business lately and our eating there made a difference to the owner and if us bowling is too much competition for you we would be happy to chance or venue to accommodate your selfish needs.... say how does shuffle board sound?
cgracia read morals and dogma. You're being deceived and Albert pike doesn't even hide it
I don’t know how things are in Texas, but I’m Georgia my lodge and the lodges around me are very different. They are much more that what your lodge sounds like. There is much more of a brotherhood, helping the local community, fellowship, and knowledge to be learned. My lodge was chartered in 1853, and we have been learning about the history of our lodge this year. And there’s nothing more satisfying as a Mason to work hard to raise funds then see those funds get paid out by the lodge to: people in need, children’s scholarships, Masonic home of Georgia, and other things we support. I’m fortunate to have such a good lodge with great people. Salt of the earth people that will give you their last dollar and the shirt off their back!
Daniel K, I couldn’t agree more. As a fellow Georgia mason, my lodge is very active in lots of different things. I’m currently serving as Master and even with Covid happening, there are ways to give back and stay active within the community.
Have you considered teaching grifting or scam artistry in addition to the fund raising.
@@deceiver123m Exactly. They are being entry-level enticed and sold a dream of 'helping people'. Naive and desperate for status and commradery. Move up higher and see if they are still devoted.
I joined at 19 (4th generation mason), still a member just inactive. I'm turning 29 this year and have not been to lodge in ten years. I just want to get my finances straight before I dive back into it; most of the guys were 64+ and retired to the point where they don't have to worry about money. The fees and traveling add up quick and take its toll. I'm coming back in the future but I just want to finish building a successful business first. Masonry is really fun at heart but not when it starts to look like a burden.
@Keith Good for you, Keith. Good luck and I hope you are welcomed back in to the fold very soon.
You obviously joined a bad Lodge & I’m really sorry that happened. That’s why we have to raise like minded Brothers & improve it. Easier said than done I know. But my Lodge was similar, took a few years but we’re doing great now, and are doing & learning meaningful stuff.
I’m in the same boat as you. But what I found after taking a break is that my lodge excepted me with open arms like the brotherhood that it is. Made me feel welcomed and it brought back memories of when I joined that they were there for me when I was at my lowest. It was that brotherhood and acceptance that makes me stay.
I’m in the same boat myself. I’m hoping my lodge will accept me back… I should never have left.
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Awe how cute, you satanist filth got eachother’s backs.
@@josephmwangi9122 you’re a clown
I'm glad to know that I am not the only one who feels like this
The real question is do you know who yahweh is ?
Why does one need to know?
No. The real question is, why did you stop taking your meds?
Its also quite easy to just move on when you read something you don't like. If you had REAL Masonry in you, you would have comprehended that. However, you're a representation of why I left. And thus MY "it" is as easy as that. You may run along now and pay with your country club rolodex. Pleas do make a snappy comeback, as I have no moral obligation to hold back from your kind.
that is the queston
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I suggest reading Karamazov brothers and particularly the Great inquisitor story. It speaks substantially about masonry as well. Dostoevsky is genius, you know, and stuff.
Nice to see Dostoevsky mentioned. Not one of my former lodge members knew who he was.
The real sketchy organization is Scientology
People love to hate what they don't understand
@Dan Hanlon then why don't people hate God?
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Exactly! My lodge hated me because they didn’t understand what they taught or why their lodge was shrinking.
And clearly you understand freemasonry? Please take a few minutes and if you can try and explain that in a few sentences as an outreach for new prospective members? Your clarity of mind would be a breath of fresh air. Are you a lower echelon member of your pyramid or a higher degree mason? Please elucidate your understanding. I doubt most of your members have a real clue. Let’s see if you are more enlightened. Maybe your “Angel of Light” has you pegged for something more.
A really honest story.
I’m a former member of the Grand Lodge of Maryland (mainstream). One of the reasons I left because it was pretty boring. Just dinner before the meetings and reading of the minutes and bills during the meetings. I demitted and healed over to Prince Hall. We have nothing but fundraisers (which is good, but we have too many in my opinion. Almost every meeting we talk about a different one). Hardly any education or anything I’ve learned going through the degrees. I normally step up and present and recommend educational topics, but it’s becoming a burn out for me. I’m not active as I was in the beginning and rarely attend meetings. When I’m there, it’s like I’m physically there, but my mind is not. After experiencing both jurisdictions, sometimes I feel like I want to demit all together, but I’m trying to hand in there.
Im sorry to hear that Brother. I am finding overseas is full of education and learning.
Its all bs
👍Finally Some Truth. That is entirely true the meetings are insufferable boring and soul destroyingly banal. Open and closing with a ritual only for the in-between to be talking about whose wife is going to make the sandwiches for the next communication; hardly the stuff of gaining esoteric knowledge. I'm glad I'm out: waste of a decade in that club.
Hey brother in my state theres one lodge in our district that does esoteric night also I recommend brothers getting the standard monitor from macoy
@@SuppressioHibernicis I'm newly raised every meeting seems so boring no knowledge
Yo....this was tight. Nice job bro. Seriously.
Thanks! I'm a big fan of your podcast so that means a lot to me!
ok lol
you might have left f/m, but you never leave,...
Masonic Improvement what degree you make it
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I recently joined back in November and was raised to master mason a few weeks ago. I've wanted to join since I was 13. Didn't really have the mental fortitude or the time to join the last 20 years until now. I still don't have much time, but my fortitude has changed and feel more equipped to be apart of the fraternity. I enjoy the charity portion and esoteric part of Masonry. It's something I've wanted to learn about for many years, things I couldn't learn while on the outside.
Welcome and congratulations on being recently raised!
Very interesting video. Your perspective is something that crosses my mind also as OES.
I quit also due to the same thing u said and here in Illinois in my lodge after I worked so hard for my main degrees. They allowed abt 25 guys on 1 week go from EA straight to Master Masons through what they call a Blue Lightning. They did not have to memorize anything just got raised.. Then if people could not catch on to the long memory work they were given a short version which I felt was unfair.. So after 4 yrs I left and my dad and grandpa all the way back to 4th great grandpa belonged to the same lodge. Freeport Illinois Evergreen #170... If u want to learn the work listen to Manly Hall or study the books for yourself.
I started to wonder if it went from some Miraculous teaching tool in the early times before Modern technology destroyed man. Meaning 100 yrs ago people belonged to many lodges bcus either then u worked or stayed home so u were more apt to join a lodge. And today it seems Masonry has become all abt the DUEs.. that is why the Blue lightning and the short version work etc
Well Now I never thought that I would see a Homie in these messages. I was born in Freeport ,graduated from FHS/Pretzels.I am a Past Grand Historian, Past Grand Publicist, and at the time elected The youngest Worshipful Master, in the jurisdiction of The Most Worshipful Grand Lodge of Minnesota and it's Jurisdictions PHA. some of my High School classmates live here in AZ, I am also a 33rd degree AASR mason. My grandfather was the DDGM for years. Meridian Sun Lodge #89, I have had some Freeport brothers, come by my ranch to visit me.I guess they seen an article of the ranch, anyway I don't know if Meridian Sun is active.
Assalamualaukum wa rahmatuallah wa barakatu akhi.. Here Local Meridian Sun is not active.. And the Blue lodge Evergreen had to Merge with the Other Blue Lodge do to falling Numbers... My 3rd great Grandfather Samuel Daughenbaugh was WM of the Evergreen lodge in the 1870s. Before helping to establish the Gowrie Iowa lodge. Many of the younger guys come in and get their Degrees and u never see them again bcus people lose hope.. I was taught masonry even before joining the lodge by my grandfather and father.. So it is alittle upsetting when u see the lodge ran like a Religious institution. Last mos they even opened the lodge for non Masons to go into and tour.. When we start to worry abt recruitment for the sake of numbers and generating funds is when we lose the foundation of what Masonry is.. Travel light my brother...
I despise rushed °s. I always tell my brethren to make them wait.. Make it worth it for them, and don't rush us working. Mind you I love the work. The bigger the crowd, the more enthusiasm I get.
Blue lodge isn't supposed to have rushed degrees. It has been official since the begining that your supposed to wait at least a month between each.
yeah-you're an illuminaut now-"we don' need no steenkeen lotches, mang..."
3:45 He stopped the video for the Masonic knock. SECRET!!! SECRET!!! SECRET!!! I KNEW IT! lol
Crap, he's on to me!
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This is why it’s very important for every meeting to have at least some bit of education. Even if it’s just a 10 min lecture to spark discourse.
I am in a similar boat, Brother. Our Grand Lodge flirted with a School of Instruction that would delve more into depths of the symbolism, the mysteries, and allegorical lessons, but too many of the old-timers bucked against a change to the ststus-quo. I haven't been to a meeting in over 18 years, and I'm a Past Master... there was too much monotony and the romance fizzled out.
I never had that problem.. I always enjoyed the fellowship and the mystery too it.. I was lucky I had a instructor who told me "learn a lecture by voice and mind.. then learn it by the heart.. and you'll be a steady mason till the day you die" and he was right.. I love masonry.. but I'll agree a lot of our generation won't love it.. but how can you not make masonry a meeting? It's the events where the fun happens
And beyond death.:.far beyond
Ah yes you enjoy satanism and pedophilia. Fuck all satanist filth
So basically you like to sit around and BS
@@_VISION. no, they create astral rooms shared by the more advanced initiated participants, sort of like how a 'SCIF' is used for secure meetings
Key point to make clear is this is American masonry which has taken its own path if you compare it to masonry in the UK, or Singapore etc. Masonry in the rest of the world has kept its meaning, it’s not about fund raising, that’s only one tiny part of it.
I haven’t visited jurisdictions outside of the US however I hear the same things you are saying very often.
there are good lodges and not so good ones and as a whole groups are losing it's members, times are a changing; I think in part to television, computers, give me instant gratification view of life
Awesome video! I myself am about to be raised to the 3rd degree this May and you hit a lot of really good points that I've discussed with a lot of current and recent Lodge Officers. I was also a little disappointed at first and I have seen some things which I feel should be improved upon. I'm glad that our current WM has asked my opinion and included me in many conversations about Lodge improvement and changes. But initially I was a little doubtful if it was worth all the memory work and effort to stay in an organization that seemed to be dying.
Since then I've realized that I can't be expected to be spoon fed esoteric knowledge and teachings. I do have to search for it myself. Not everyone is in it for the same reasons and I know of a Lodge in our city that when seeking dispensation from Grand Lodge was called "elitist" for saying that tuxedos were a must and that they would be leaning towards a very traditional style Lodge. I love their ideas and we need lodges of all sorts to make Masonry appeal to all types of people.
I completely agree! I'm not suggesting a 'one size fits all' approach to Freemasonry but the fact that all the lodges I visited at that point behaved the same was very discouraging. Best of luck in the rest of your Masonic journey, the 3rd degree is wonderful!
I have to say I am avoiding going to Lodge for the same reasons. I had a grand vision of learning and one Brother helping another through the chairs. The reality was that you are expected to learn on your own with a cypher and know the floor work like it comes from some innate or inherent knowledge. Meetings are business meetings and little else. There is little to no passing of knowledge from senior Brothers to juniors. I was appointed a mentor when I joined and thought he would help me, but he is seldom available and lives too far away for a spontaneous meeting.
I believe once a Mason always a Mason and will continue to pay my dues, but l I will continue to be an inactive member unless something drastic changes. Grand Lodge has also come up with changes that have exasperated many Brothers so attendance is dwindling. I hate to see this once great Brotherhood crumble but things in my Lodge and Grand Lodge need to change before I come back to regular meetings.
ksgilbert may I ask what’s your GL, Brother?
ksgilbert our district had a similar experience. We actually had a big meeting about it. The old baby boomer way has to change. Heck. They even wanyed ban the widows sons in our district. They settled on childish agreements. Remove the s. And cs. From their LB.. Childish. Control driven. Anyways. It will get better!
Pedophile talk about that
I been a Freemason for years since I was about 21 I never had an experience like that and I'm 58 years old Your lodge needs to be checked out
What part of the world are you from, brother?
What I described is the norm in most lodges I've visited around here.
Horse Man , MANY needs to be checked out!!! P.H.A. ALSO GOTDAMN SOCIAL CLUBS!!
This guy is right on the money most lodges are like that that's why I quit going to my Lodge you had your little circle that ran the lodge no matter what the laws were
Frank Lyons Attention seeking a man with no honor can not be trusted by his friends by his family or his country
Horse Man thank you for the warning you must not be a man then
My best friends dad left Freemason and he was becoming a pastor and what he told me was a Man can NOT serve 2 masters. So that always kept me away because he was as upright as a man can be.
It is involvement in the occult! It looks all civilized and like a boys club on the outside but it actually invokes serious curses and idol worship. My great grandfather was a grand mason and I’m a born again Christian and God has shown me how I’m having to deal with curses due to his involvement at this high level. It’s not from God
May the Lord bless you 🙏
@@dachater1 Exactly, same here Sister ✝️ May the Most High God bless you 🙏
@@PaperclipProphets and you too ☺
@@dachater1I hope more people see your comment.
It's what is happening in most of the fraternal orders
Hard to get new member to join the VFW and its hard to get the current members to meeting or fundraisers.