$28 vs $300 Burr Set? US vs Imported Burrs. CLE-LINE, Champion, Grobet, Kodiak, Astro Pneumatic

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  • @ProjectFarm
    @ProjectFarm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
    KangTeer: amzn.to/3iPIGNe
    Yufutol: amzn.to/3JVN8G0
    Jestuous: amzn.to/3wWexUJ
    Astro Pneumatic: amzn.to/3iNEdKD
    Osidu: amzn.to/3NzrsSf
    Kodiak: amzn.to/3tSs0uD
    Grobet: amzn.to/3iRpI8F
    Champion: amzn.to/3LrWdH0
    Cle-Line: homedepot.sjv.io/jW6ND6

  • @ManCaverTools
    @ManCaverTools 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2553

    I thank you for doing these tests Project Farm, you don't only talk about tools or even upload click bait titles/videos, you actually do real legit tests and help people decide what brands to buy based on their budget. We all thank you PF and we all are proud to have you apart of the tool community.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +244

      This means a lot to me! Thank you!!

    • @hummyhero1484
      @hummyhero1484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Well said and agreed

    • @CPthetooladdict
      @CPthetooladdict 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @mancaver you are a great channel also very few people on TH-cam like you great honest content you can trust!!

    • @Jtwizzle
      @Jtwizzle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MCT, you the man!

    • @Timothious_Maximus
      @Timothious_Maximus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed

  • @GMAC84
    @GMAC84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1763

    The Champion set is expensive but having the bits magically go back in the case themselves may be worth it.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +225

      lol. Absolutely right!!

    • @davidparker9676
      @davidparker9676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      They will never get lost that way.

    • @jaydupuis4103
      @jaydupuis4103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I thought that was pretty cool! Lol

    • @nasonguy
      @nasonguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Does champion make a case for 10mm sockets? That would be a money maker right there.

    • @rogerstlaurent8704
      @rogerstlaurent8704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      TOTALLY AGREE on the Champion Brand

  • @james1993ify
    @james1993ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    As a heavy diesel tech I need different tools I never knew I needed, I've watched your content as much as I can when I need a real option when I decide to purchase. You're the first guy I think of when I need help deciding. Thank you for all the great things you do, you're a real one for keeping it a 100 percent honest. Us blue collar workers thank you.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Thanks and you are welcome!

    • @weirddog
      @weirddog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So true I'm a DIY homeowner and use this channel before I buy stuff. I now use the wipers from the wiper video and never been happier!

    • @aaronholmes8568
      @aaronholmes8568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not in the tech game anymore, I left for another career but when I was I always had a die grinder with a burr in it. Made installing bushes etc so much quicker, cleaned up lips on drums and discs, cleaning out rust from spring centre bolt holes, so many uses

    • @chadd587
      @chadd587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hear hear. I'm a plant E/I and this is where I begin my search

    • @ronunderwood5771
      @ronunderwood5771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Check out Rescue Bit. They are an Amazon and other places. I've been in HD repair for close to 50 years. I have never seen ANYTHING that cuts like these. They will cut thru the screw extractor and or drill bit you have broken off in the busted exhaust manifold stud/bolt your trying to get out. I run it with a Cornwell die grinder. They run dry. READ the directions. First time I used one it saved me from from removing a cylinder head to get a broken exhaust manifold bolt out.

  • @DanielXStaub
    @DanielXStaub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Has anyone else found themselves standing in a store watching one of these video's before buying anything? I ended up with two people watching over my shoulder before the video was finished. I waked out with what I wanted, and the other two guys bought the same thing even though it wasn't what they came for. Please keep up the amazing work, there is nothing I trust more than your videos when it comes to finding quality tools at a good price.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, will do!

    • @troybrake5686
      @troybrake5686 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have I!😂

    • @WoodworkingforAnyone
      @WoodworkingforAnyone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol. I worked in the two big auto parts stores. Every employee and customer would invoke Todd as if "it was written". He wrecked my Pennsoil Platinum Ultra inventory when that video dropped. His reputation continues to boggle me. Not that he hasn't earned it but apart from Keanu Reeves, and Betty White, he might be the internet's darling. A rare good guy makes good story.

  • @homeboi808
    @homeboi808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +838

    Instead of motor oil brand shootouts, it would be interesting to test the different oils from the same brand to see differences. For instance, Mobil 1 has “advanced fuel economy”, “high mileage”, “extended performance”, etc.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

      Thank you for the video idea!

    • @skie6282
      @skie6282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I second this!

    • @crazydavidsmith
      @crazydavidsmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Wow. 🤯 That's an EXCELLENT idea. Genius. I watch every PF video and it never occured to me to focus on a specific brand's products. Happy to see PF loved this comment.
      Selfishly, Ryobi bits would be my top interest.
      Or PF could choose "top performers" from each existing video if the brand sells horizontally marketed products.

    • @corbinschad1
      @corbinschad1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I like that idea.

    • @seniorxj2931
      @seniorxj2931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is a great idea!!!!

  • @giusepperesponte8077
    @giusepperesponte8077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    We viewers appreciate the thank you but you’re the one who deserves thanks. I recommend your videos to anyone who buys tools, not just because you deserve the subs, but also because I know that anyone who watches these videos will instantly become a far more informed consumer. The importance of having informed consumers can’t be overstated, especially in a country like ours that is built upon capitalism. If the consumer isn’t informed, companies have no monetary incentive to improve their products. The more informed the consumer is, the better products we will get. Better products means less time and money wasted in our jobs and hobbies, which I appreciate to no end. Before project farm, tools would break on me, or they wouldn’t perform well, even if I bought the most expensive one. Now that I’ve found this channel, everything I’ve bought from Todd’s testing has lasted, done the job effectively, and many times, those products aren’t the most expensive ones in the showdown. My tools last longer, work better, and are often cheaper, it’s not hard to imagine how much money that saves altogether. For myself and plenty of others working in the trades, your videos make our lives easier, and give us more money to take home to our families at the end of the day which is something that I can’t begin to thank you enough for.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you!

    • @StaticMusic
      @StaticMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This was a nice message. I agree

    • @michaelsebastian2842
      @michaelsebastian2842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Couldn't agree more

    • @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751
      @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 ปีที่แล้ว

      My brother's and I, (50 , 48 , 42 years old ) love to work with our hands , thus project farm is all our go to on tool choices.

  • @mac24seven
    @mac24seven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Turning down sponsors; that's why this is one of the best channels on TH-cam - you stay unbiased.
    Thank YOU for your work :)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Glad you like them!

  • @aydin2005ozdemir
    @aydin2005ozdemir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Each of your videos that I watched, sound more scientific than most of doctorate degree papers. Abstract, introduction, methodology, trial group, control group, outcome measures, analysis, results presentation, suggestions.. Everything is organized in a such brilliant way. I love watching your videos, with a great respect.

  • @larrycroft470
    @larrycroft470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    How does it feel to be a man who has EARNED respect from MILLIONS of people? You my you tube friend deserve all the gratitude you receive from all of us!!! Great job as usual - I have told you i follow your recommendations almost as closely as i do my Bible!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Thank you very much! The respect is greatly appreciated and I'll work as hard as possible to maintain the best testing possible and without any influence from manufacturers. Thanks again!!

    • @gernhartreinholzen3992
      @gernhartreinholzen3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your religion is like your genitals. Don't show it or talk about it to strangers. Especially when children could be around.

    • @jonathansherwood5841
      @jonathansherwood5841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said!

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    I've used these in the past and didn't have very good results. After watching your outstanding testing video, I think I'm going to have to buy a new set. LOL Thanks for all the time and money you put into making these videos! A++

    • @paulcopeland9035
      @paulcopeland9035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which set did you have fail?

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you very much!!

    • @Jako1987
      @Jako1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@paulcopeland9035 If I had to guess it was a no name brand from a general store

    • @Convolutedtubules
      @Convolutedtubules 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jako1987 Combined with incorrect use.

    • @boomerangfreak
      @boomerangfreak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jako1987 to be honest I bought a set of cheap no brands from amazon. They were like €30 for 10 I think?
      Used rm a couple of times on your average construction steel using my milwaukee M12 die grinder, they work quite a charm!

  • @djosbun
    @djosbun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I love how you're able to think up real-world use tests that show just how good these tools are. You, my friend, are a genius! Project Farm is one of the most influential (and important) channels on TH-cam.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you very much!

  • @thebigquestion
    @thebigquestion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I have binge-watched this channel and I am truly appreciative of the work you put in to legitimize testing and make it fair and impartial.

  • @sage5296
    @sage5296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have to say, I really love (among many other things about this channel) how you show the tooth wear. You don't just say what you think or give a rating, you show it to us under a microscope while you talk about it! Even tho it may be a little bit subjective, you provide the information readily for someone else to make their own subjective rating on it as well, and it's just so seamlessly fit into the video!

  • @markmywordswithmarknelson9232
    @markmywordswithmarknelson9232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    When I'm looking to buy a new tool or piece of equipment, I always come here to see if it's been reviewed. I can't thank you enough for all your effort and unbiased testing. You are the Consumer Reports of tools and equipment.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

    • @JazzbLu
      @JazzbLu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree! I buy based off of your videos for what I need! We all thank you so much!

    • @3Hose
      @3Hose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

  • @galtsgarage5775
    @galtsgarage5775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I just bought the Kodiak set 3 months ago and I've been very happy with them although I primarily use them on mild steel and cast iron. At the time they were the only American made carbide burrs I could find, these are not easy tools to look up even on the interwebs. Thanks again for another great video!

  • @shaneharwood2999
    @shaneharwood2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    Just want to say thank you for never selling out, always doing realistic real world testing, and being overall very fun to watch! Video idea here, cheap vs quality pry bar sets. Tip bending, deflection, snapping point, ability to withstand striking, and chemical and drop test durability would be neat to see for really world use and application. Much love man, you’re awesome!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.

    • @wanders278
      @wanders278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@anumpirzada3312 I just checked and they suck

    • @bigdawg77
      @bigdawg77 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@anumpirzada3312 I have enough worthless Chinese garbage around my house, no thanks.

  • @CMDR_CLASSIFIED
    @CMDR_CLASSIFIED 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love the fact that you don't take any sponsorship's, and you do what I would call "real world testing" on the products you review. Some of you test rigs are absolutely amazing! You have helped me (and I am sure many others) to pick the right product for the right price on many occasions. Thanks for all of the hard work you do, Sir! o7

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This means a lot to me! So thank you very much!

    • @aaronthomas6155
      @aaronthomas6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't necessarily call this one "real world testing".... This particular test, while interesting, is missing an important factor. A die grinder..... Some rotary burr designs perform better at higher RPMs, some perform far worse....

  • @chartier67
    @chartier67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    What I love about your testing is how you test products, like tools, under normal use conditions, then you stress test them. Seeing the breaking point of products is crucial, especially when making a determination if a more expensive product is worth it. I look out for your videos every week and you never disappoint, keep up the great work.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks, will do!

    • @lepompier132
      @lepompier132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No way, the way he's testing these tools is flawed, that's not real life testing. A real proper test, would be using a solid carbide Burr on a solid carbide Endmill. As a machinist I've seen demonstration where you use a solid carbide endmill to mill a slot length wise on an other carbide Endmill and the endmill that did the slot shows no damages on the flutes. The way he's doing his test is abusing these tools to get faulty results. That's why it's a faulty or bias methodology. If I were to do that same style of test, that Project Farm did, to find the best tooling for my job, I would be out of a job.
      Listen I've used cheap set of Burr's even in a high speed CNC Mill setting and the tool held fine on hard to machine Inconel.

    • @MedicSound
      @MedicSound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@lepompier132 Man he tested the burrs in a way ideologically consistent with how regular people would use them in their own home-gamer shops. People aren't in their personal shops cutting carbide usually, nor are they cutting any formulation of Inconel, and they particularly don't normally have a $60k CNC machine to throw into the mix. Of course you would be fired if you did a tooling test like this, they pay you more than was spent on all the tools combined for this test.

    • @lepompier132
      @lepompier132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MedicSound Sorry I don't agree with you, the average person won't abuse de-Burring tool in that fashion. In order to get the same pressure on the tool for an average user in the garage, he would have to put his full weight on it, when in reality he doesn't have a steady hand to force the tools in the metal, let alone something that's hard like a grade A bolt. With common sens, someone in hos garage will use the 4 inch grinder first and once the grinder has done it's job they will use a die grinder with a Burr tool to clean and prep the zone and from experience I've seen the use of Burr tools after the 4 inch grinder to finish cleaning removing the rest of the weld. Or prep the zone to weld with bass. And like I said in my original comment, I've used Burr tools Carbide and High Speed Steel version and I don't destroy them, in fact I have a cheap set and that set gave me the best results. That's why I say his test is flawed because it doesn't reflect reality of use. And since in his video he used Carbide version. When you know how they make carbide tools, you tend to respect them and they have a longer life.

  • @seniorxj2931
    @seniorxj2931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    THANK YOU so much!! I literally have three sets of these in my Amazon cart right now and was trying to figure out which is best. You posted this video right in time helping me yet again in my purchasing power!! Words cannot express how thankful I am for you and your Channel!!

    • @MattTrevett
      @MattTrevett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What did you get?

    • @seniorxj2931
      @seniorxj2931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MattTrevett, bought 1 from champion and 1 from kodiak.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks so much!

    • @DC_DC_DC_DC
      @DC_DC_DC_DC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's so awesome dude. In this world of questionable quality and value these videos help everyone and you are a perfect example of that

    • @seniorxj2931
      @seniorxj2931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DC_DC_DC_DC, I've bought a bunch of tools based on his reviews and none have failed me! One of the most useful channels on TH-cam bar none!

  • @trevorfichtner3539
    @trevorfichtner3539 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have a lot of respect for channels that test products like this. This is great, you basically just gave me a free ticket to skip years of experience buying and trying different burrs to compare. Thanks so much, keep it up!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, will do!

    • @dwhallon21
      @dwhallon21 ปีที่แล้ว

      A great video project farm
      Having experience in burrs helps and you hit the nail on the head for these tests. I am in market for a set and I will look at the made in USA sets again before making a purchase

  • @ghostridergale
    @ghostridergale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You never cease to amaze me with the contraptions you come up with to test these tools or equipment. Just seeing your contraptions you use are just as entertaining as seeing how well the tools perform? I definitely trust your testing and opinions over anyone else anywhere and I often buy items off the results you shown in your testing videos! Your appreciated probably more then you’ll ever know by everyone watching your testing! In the long run your saving people a lot of money and frustration showing which tools are better and which ones aren’t worth buying in the first place! Thanks for everything you do!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! That really means a lot to me!

  • @YourLordMobius
    @YourLordMobius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I would have thought the single direction cut on the cle-line would have made it perform poorly, but I think they're onto something there. Very interesting. Great test as always.

    • @justinmartin8887
      @justinmartin8887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      We use them on aluminum. Extremely aggressive and can chew through a terrifying amount of aluminum in a few seconds. Doesn’t gal quite as quick, either

    • @YourLordMobius
      @YourLordMobius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@justinmartin8887 oh man, you ain't lying. With their performance on steel I bet they chew right through aluminum like it's not even there.

    • @blarfroer8066
      @blarfroer8066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justinmartin8887 I already thought that this tool would be great for aluminium, thanks for confirming.

    • @kenmore01
      @kenmore01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess that design is stronger and has fewer "holes" in the pattern. I'm also guessing it's less expensive to make as well.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks!

  • @gunner6639
    @gunner6639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Perfect! I also use these a lot, so looking forward to this! Thanks again and keep up the EXCELLENT work!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you very much!

  • @SneakerBiscut
    @SneakerBiscut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This channel is critical for “know before you buy”. Thank You so much for your patience and hard work!

  • @jasongray1962
    @jasongray1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was a useful test and review for me as a metal fabricator. Thank you for your effort and time to provide this data. I was hoping my favorite brand of burrs would have been tested, which is Pferd brand. I've been very satisfied with all Pferd tools and accessories.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!

    • @garyp.7501
      @garyp.7501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your recommendation. The other brands are currently sold out!

  • @Goatman31
    @Goatman31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Doesn’t apply to me as a carpenter but damn I love watching your videos and they’re always the highlight of my Sunday

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you very much!

    • @guyh3403
      @guyh3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I work in a office and have two left hands.
      But still love these video's ;)

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Carbide burrs can rip through wood. But you're probably better off using a cheap rotary rasp. Although the rasp finish is rougher than the finish a burr leaves. The rotary rasp is like a rasp and the burr is like a file. You're probably going to have to finish with sandpaper anyways. A straight conical rotary rasp can be just the thing for weird wood shaping. I've never found a use for any of the other profiles.

    • @athhud
      @athhud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Heavy cut Aluminum burrs will chew through wood at a pretty quick pace...

    • @frenchyroastify
      @frenchyroastify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a millwork installer/finishing carpenter and the die grinder is a tool that I never knew I needed to get me out of some pickles.

  • @virtualgaz
    @virtualgaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You never fail to conduct well-thought-out tests, great reviews and unbiased results. Thanks again for a great video PF.

  • @johnbauman4005
    @johnbauman4005 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks!
    I looked but did not see an evaluation of rotary tools by you. Please consider one, or point me to one I missed. Thank you for all you do!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for the suggestion. Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!

  • @Doofinshurmiks
    @Doofinshurmiks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    always giving unbiased testing. love what you do.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you very much!

  • @shadetreewannabe
    @shadetreewannabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm 42 and quite the jack of all trades. But watching this channel makes me realize how stupid I really am, because you sir are a think tank kind of mastermind. I'm in awe of how much knowledge you possess and thank you so much for not only being so thorough and helpful to all of us seeking further education, but keeping it real and not getting bought out like a lot of these other channels. Cheers!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks and you are welcome! Don't underestimate yourself! Being a jack of all trades is a commendable talent!

    • @shadetreewannabe
      @shadetreewannabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ProjectFarm You are too kind sir. My sincere appreciation again.

  • @artillerybuff2000
    @artillerybuff2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great review, and timely too. I'm finally ready to replace my Snap-on set purchased approx. 40 years ago. I always ran them at the proper speed and pressure which is why they lasted so long. Thank you Project Farm!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I could help!

    • @Spike-sk7ql
      @Spike-sk7ql 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've got the 4 piece snap on set myself. 20 years so far, and haven't had one that needed replaced yet. Either from wearing out, or "walking away"

    • @paulcopeland9035
      @paulcopeland9035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be interesting to know what company made those Snap-on cutters 40 years ago. I have a bunch of older Snap-on and the quality is exceptional.

  • @entorum
    @entorum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, wery informative and interesting. I’m amazed by the effort going in to your tests.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! Thanks for your support to the channel!

  • @mrfordman9999
    @mrfordman9999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for staying true to yourself. Thank you for not uploading clickbait titles or falsifying information. Thank you for making every test as Fair as possible within reason but keeping it consumer-friendly and idiot approved LOL! Pretty much anyone can watch your videos and know which product is going to do the best for them! Love it and keep up the good work

    • @flhusa1
      @flhusa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They may also gain some knowledge of what a tool can do and be used for. You learn something every day

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much!

  • @CrippledEagle
    @CrippledEagle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank You again for your testing. So many of the tools, oils and other items in my shed are there simply because I was able to see tests that proved their durability and usefulness.
    Carbide burrs certainly are useful in ones shop. I used to blend ports for performance engines and found my choices for superior burrs. While I no longer offer that service, I still use burrs to fit parts better and might do porting and polishing for my own engines.
    Simply put: Another excellent choice for a subject and excellent testing!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @AggressiveLemur
    @AggressiveLemur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I rely on your testing and processes to help me spend what limited resources I have to get tools I need for tasks that come up. With resources being tight after COVID it has been even more necessary. thank you for all the good you do!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the feedback!

  • @jackallore2796
    @jackallore2796 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am always impressed by the attention to detail you apply to your tests! You take into account ALL the variables that could affect the results. Bravo!

  • @petej.8676
    @petej.8676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I look forward to Sunday with P.F.
    Thanks for the dedication you give to each project. ✌️

  • @mdtransmissionspecialties
    @mdtransmissionspecialties 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve ported a lot of heads and intakes along with cleaning up castings in valve bodies and transmission cases etc. I’ve ALWAYS learned you get what you pay for with burr bits. Great review as always.

  • @boosted2.4_sky
    @boosted2.4_sky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    LET'S GO 🏁
    I have the Astro Pneumatic 1/4" burr set and the 1/8" Yufutol set...honestly I can't complain they're both really good

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great feedback on the Astro Pneumatic brand!

  • @Redrickson1
    @Redrickson1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is only one sponsor I have seen you take: your supporters and subscribers! I applaud you for the honest and thorough testing. Thank you for all that you do!

    • @ExploringCabinsandMines
      @ExploringCabinsandMines 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's 2

    • @Redrickson1
      @Redrickson1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ExploringCabinsandMines They're one group. Dave and Busters isn't two companies.

    • @ExploringCabinsandMines
      @ExploringCabinsandMines 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Redrickson1 supporters AND Subscribers = added to; plus: = and.

    • @Redrickson1
      @Redrickson1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ExploringCabinsandMines 🤣 Sure man. They all support him. Lol.

    • @ExploringCabinsandMines
      @ExploringCabinsandMines 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Redrickson1 👍🏻

  • @A.Mere.Creator
    @A.Mere.Creator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    What rotary tool would you recommend? Or is a die grinder better? A video on rotary tools would be appreciated, then I can finally upgrade :)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Thanks for the video idea.

    • @1985cjjeeper
      @1985cjjeeper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      A die grinder is gonna be the best for power and speed. Air powered has always been king but electric seems to have caught up just fine so either is fine to me. Just remember some tools like drills aren't made for side loads. You can use them but you won't get good results in comparison.

    • @aaronthomas6155
      @aaronthomas6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, if you're using rotary burrs, a die grinder works rather well. The DeWalt rotary tool he used works well too if you need better control than what a die grinder allows. For small projects, dremel and ryobi actually make decent rotary tools.

    • @spevakdesigns
      @spevakdesigns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Most 'rotary tools' are going to be more like a Dremel only chuck small 1/8" shaft tools. For burr bits and most other 1/4" accessories you'll want a die grinder. This will get you the 20k RPM speeds the bits are designed for. Astro has a decent pneumatic set with a straight and right angled one bundled together. The 'chief' brand HF ones are okay too. Many other brands to choose from for pneumatic, those are two I have experience with and would buy again. For battery powered, the M12 is king. For the corded electric the Bosch is nice. I like using 2" sanding discs and wire cups in my right angle and use my straight die grinder for burr bits and cutoff discs.

    • @beinghuman3225
      @beinghuman3225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Any wood router, the trick is to find one with little runout.

  • @reyalPRON
    @reyalPRON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I love this channel! FInally a PROPER test channel. So much time goes into making these videos. THANK YOU GOOD SIR FOR DOING THE LEGWORK. All of us benefit from your hard work. Thank you again for sorting out the bad from the.good.
    You dear sir make our world a better place to live in.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @Lmolina90
    @Lmolina90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I've only ever use mini versions of these that fit in a Dremel type rotary tool. Cool to see what quality bigger versions will do. I was rooting for the Kodiak as I bought an 1/8th inch carbide end mill from them years ago as a better router bit for my Dremel and it performed really well.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!

    • @connorjohnson4402
      @connorjohnson4402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So depending on what material you are working on you can get the rotozip bit that are normally for cutting thru drywall and other stuff and use them in the dremel and they work pretty well as long as its not metal. They also have some tile cutting bits and grout removing bits that are basically carbide burrs anyway and those work great for pretty much anything you need, Just have to make sure its the right size it get the dremek collet chuck attachment. but they work great and can sometimes be cheaper than the dremel bits or other alternatives

    • @hellshade2
      @hellshade2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      dremels have the R.P.M. to make good use of some of these bits probably need them a little smaller though. i have use these in a pneumatic die grinder for cutting through spot welds in ford strut towers to be able to adjust camber and caster in a wheel alignment...

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been using American-made Atrax 1/8" shank carbide bits, purchased over 35 years ago when I was a car stereo installer, in my Dremel tool. They're slightly chipped and beat up after years of use and abuse but they still work! The company was founded by ex Pratt and Whitney tool and die makers, and they still make their products in the USA today. My bits weren't cheap when I bought them, and they're quite expensive nowadays, but I have gotten more than my money's worth out of them. I would love to see Project Farm do a review of various 1/8" shank bits for Dremel tools and other similar miniature rotary die grinders.

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@connorjohnson4402, I did try the Dremel brand ceramic tile cutting bits (diamond) when I needed to trim away some tile from around an electrical box when we redid our kitchen, but they didn't work well at all for me.

  • @thomascaspari82
    @thomascaspari82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Project farm is the first and best address for tests and finding the best. Thanks from Ahrtal in Germany

  • @oddis188
    @oddis188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I would love to see you testing "ceramic coatings" for engines. The ones you put in the oil before and after oil change. RVS and Resurs Total are atleast two companies that I know off. I would love to see if they actually does reduce friction and helps the engine or the gearbox etc. (There is many products for different applications with those oil additives)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the video idea.

    • @MoSportsUSA
      @MoSportsUSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recall he did one on motor anti-friction additives. I believe Motorkote came out on top, it's what I use regularly.

    • @mackk123
      @mackk123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      coating the cylinder walls with say, titanium nitride like on dril bits or even AlTiN

    • @aaronthomas6155
      @aaronthomas6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MoSportsUSA He's done quite a few videos with oil additives. The self-destructing Predator videos were fun to watch. I believe Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer won that series of tests.

  • @xSeRosiSx
    @xSeRosiSx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    One of very few tests that I've seen where the more expensive brands have the edge over competitors.
    Kind of strange to see it when it comes to burr bits though. You'd think price-to-performance would show up in more substantial tooling but here we are.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @oldbridgemaker2094
      @oldbridgemaker2094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah, a lot of times the less expensive tool is just as good, I think the difference here is metallurgy - the specific alloys and precise heat treatment. It's what makes the difference in high-end knives for instance.

    • @1985cjjeeper
      @1985cjjeeper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oldbridgemaker2094
      I agree totally. The cheap burrs could likely benefit from better heat treating but they just aren't made from as good a steel. That would be an interesting thing to test though. Send off some cheap burrs for a proper heat treat. Might even find some other tools it's beneficial on. Maybe cheap impact sockets, files and whatnot.

    • @pa6370
      @pa6370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1985cjjeeper There's no heat treatment with tungsten carbide. It's just grain size, binder/concrete, cutting geometry and coating.

    • @Verticom10
      @Verticom10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was gonna say, i didnt even know what a burr (tool) was before this, though i can see the possible applications now

  • @DorkPhish
    @DorkPhish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don't even need these tools or products 99 percent of the time, but love watching a true professional unbiased review process with pleasant commentary.

  • @stronkde
    @stronkde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a review I didn't know I wanted, but definitely needed

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @Grasshopper.80
    @Grasshopper.80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Big thank you for excellent product testing and reviews.
    As well as holding manufacturers to their claims.
    Love the channel!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @davidschwartz5127
    @davidschwartz5127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have a set of Cle-Line and they cut great and fast, however the chips they produce go right thru my gloves and I spend days digging the chips out of my hands

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow! Thanks for sharing.

    • @PaletoB
      @PaletoB ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont use any of these brands but have the same problem, gest chips in my gloves, shoes, hair and underpants. But at least I'm not breathing the shit like with a angle grinder. XD

  • @richardcaldeira3684
    @richardcaldeira3684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is by far my favourite TH-cam channel, your no nonsense testing always give me piece of mind before buying tools and equipment.
    Many thanks for your efforts, and well done. 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @marcman94
    @marcman94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks for another great unbiased review!
    Something I've often noticed is that the import and Chinese products are often a lot cheaper, and worse than their US made counterparts at higher price.
    This might be difficult to do, but I would like to see a comparison of some products at similar price points with different origin.
    Is a $100 German product better/worse/equal to a Chinese or US made one?

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great point!

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guaranteed that German or Swiss made products are going to be superior to Chinese or US made ones.

  • @jaydupuis4103
    @jaydupuis4103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you Todd for all your amazing tool reviews! I really appreciate your dedication to accurate testing. I just purchased a set of Jestuos carbide burrs after watching your latest video. Please keep up the great work!

  • @The1025RChannel
    @The1025RChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Despite what one manufacturer may say, these are great for DIY dentistry. I have successfully ground down all my teeth and no longer have to deal with the inconvenience of brushing or the excruciating pain of accidentally biting my tongue.

    • @deltalima6703
      @deltalima6703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bit my tongue a couple of times. Hurts. Sounds like a great idea.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol, Thank you!

    • @jonathanyoung8109
      @jonathanyoung8109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve bit my tongue and my cheek before. Might have to pick up a set of these…

  • @nander1988
    @nander1988 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy has helped me make several educated tool choices and when people ask me about my selection I always refer them to this channel. For instance I bought into the Milwaukee M18 line for my battery powered tools because of the impact driver and multitool videos

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I was able to help! Thanks for sharing.

  • @complexenergy240
    @complexenergy240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are relentless with these comparisons, keep it up PF 👌👌

  • @mainelife6432
    @mainelife6432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Todd, I watch every video you put out very intently, although I'll probably only need less that 10% of what you review...that is how enjoyable your reviews are. But I will admit...as much as I pay attention, that magic bit at 5:31 made me jump a bit! You never fail to entertain as well as educate.

  • @williamgray9088
    @williamgray9088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "We're gonna test that" has to be the most innocuous catchphrase that I've ever enjoyed this much... Just goes to show what great content thorough and honest reviews make.

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    My personal opinion is that long term wear is more important than saving a few seconds. These tests put a lot more stress on the tools than I do. A lighter touch keeps tools in excellent shape.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback.!

    • @dabmanian_devil
      @dabmanian_devil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and w these metal cutting burrs, it seems that its almost more productive at removing material with LESS pressure applied from user.... like you cant just turn em on n set them on the metal to bore out, as it will get all choppy n bounce up n around. but juuust enough pressure to ensure the tool won't go bouncing outta ur hands is all that seems to be needed, i feel like too much pressure causes it to dig in too deep the be avle to carve and eject the metal shavings out fast enough to keep up w its rotation.. but lighter touch lets it just glide across the metal and itll sink into it before you realize its even happening!!!

    • @elliotkane4443
      @elliotkane4443 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I use these a lot to cut out steel, sometimes to make 16-50 mm holes in 1 1/2" steel, when you do that you cannot have 'a lighter touch' or you will be there all week.
      It sucks but jobs that call for the die grinder are not ideal, thats where your first options wouldn't fit.

    • @himynameisjeff
      @himynameisjeff ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@elliotkane4443 what's your line of work? There are better tools to do what you've described than a carbide Burr. Oxyfuel, plasma cutter, magdrill. Unless you're just dressing a hole to size, that sounds like a lot of work.

    • @elliotkane4443
      @elliotkane4443 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@himynameisjeff Boilermaker/Ironworker on this 1, We're not allowed to use oxy/plasma and I use my die grinder where the mag drill won't fit.
      I could weld on a plate for the mag drill but it's just not an efficient use of time.

  • @jakec3185
    @jakec3185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Nice to see so many USA made products!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, thank you!

    • @appalachiangunman9589
      @appalachiangunman9589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The difference sure showed in these tests.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to know a machine shop that made carbide tools. Man they were into their ways bellows. Carbide and abrasive grit can tear machine tools up.

    • @razi_man
      @razi_man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@appalachiangunman9589 I think it's just the fact that US manufacrurers has had experience with making alloys, so they know what they are doing.
      It isn't really just China, Japanese burrs are pretty shit too, US really is the best for tools, the quality is unmatched.

    • @Youtubeuser1aa
      @Youtubeuser1aa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@razi_man they just suck at making cars

  • @quisp1492
    @quisp1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    For the bolt cutting and Allen Wrench cutting tests, it looks like the deciding factor is how fast the bit can heat the metal up to the point that it loses temper and becomes soft enough to chew through.

    • @lindafoxwood9091
      @lindafoxwood9091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I only have one bit, the oval shaped one. I can grind into metal till they are smoking red and then put my finger on the bit; it is still room temperature. Titanium Carbide is such an unbelievable material.

    • @GamingKeenBeaner
      @GamingKeenBeaner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its basically abrasive spot annealing. Its definitely not the same as properly cutting, but he also isn't using an industrial mill....

  • @CharleySuede
    @CharleySuede ปีที่แล้ว

    Been watching your channel sporadically throughout the years, mostly just when I’m looking for specific tool showdowns. In my time with this channel, I’ve never experienced clickbait, brand loyalty, or anything outside of plainly, and fairly, testing tools and products. Thank you for having remained consistent with your integrity.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @5xlustrum658
    @5xlustrum658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your videos!! Just introduced your channel to my grandfather lol much love from Kentucky!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Thank you!

  • @BigBear--
    @BigBear-- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for such great and consistent content! Every week this is one of the highlights of my weekend. You've sorta become the Myhtbusters of tools, cant wait for more content. My only suggestion is that you maybe do more revisits of previous videos with additional tool options, or when new tools are released by some manufacturers. Thanks!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the feedback!

  • @leeopolka604
    @leeopolka604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really do appreciate the time/effort/cost/thinking that you devote your time to when creating these videos!

  • @jamesadams2333
    @jamesadams2333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just love these tests! I’m actually considering getting a set of these. I do love a good set of tools. Thanks for all you do and keep up the amazing work.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great review. For me, only having to buy a tool once instead of 5-6 times over my lifetime is much better. Especially when those tools will outlive me and possibly become heirloom tools. I'll be getting a set of either the Cle-Line or Grober thanks to your review.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @bigj231
      @bigj231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd buy a cheaper set (probably the Kodiak), then replace them as they wear out with higher-quality single burs (I like Pferd the best, but I've had good luck with Cle-Line too). You'll find a "favorite" shape for your work, and you'll only grab the other ones when you have a special need. Be careful with the ball burs, they cut a lot faster than you expect them to.

    • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper
      @Skinflaps_Meatslapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The single cut cle-line is really a great choice, it's what I use on hardened steels that a belt grinder can't get to.

    • @1985cjjeeper
      @1985cjjeeper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds great till you spin out and the burr catches hard. Doesn't matter how much you paid then. I like the other posters thinking. Get a cheap set and see what you use, and what you break. Then buy accordingly. Sometimes you buy the one good one. Like my 3 foot long half inch Harbor Freight breaker bar. Broke one so easy at first I thought I'd mounted the socket funny. Got another one and it has turned out to be a beast that has had a 5 foot pipe put on it more than a few times.

    • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper
      @Skinflaps_Meatslapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1985cjjeeper And sometimes using a trash bit is what causes the problem to begin with. When you're talking about craftsmanship and developing a skillset with tools, you're teaching yourself bad habits if you use tools that aren't going to do the job right. Case in point, you buy a set of cheap burrs and end up using way too much pressure to perform a certain task, and you end up overheating the bit or losing control of it...so you go out and buy a good set and destroy them too because you default to using far more pressure than the bit needs. Had you started with a good set, that learned behavior wouldn't exist.

  • @hackaboom
    @hackaboom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don’t think WE say thank you enough, you are providing incredibly valuable information to the hard working public. You and AvE are incredible people and I personally can not put a value on your work. Thank you.

  • @ricoIII
    @ricoIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great channel! Keep up the good work! Found you while confused at the store faced with a wall of penetrating oils to deal with stuck nuts on my rear shock absorbers. While Seafoam did a great job taking the rusty nuts out, the nozzle easily broke when the can took a tumble. Wd40 has a tougher design.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great feedback. Thank you

  • @BinneReitsma
    @BinneReitsma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Did anyone else replayed the part around 5:30 where the bit flew back into the box to see if they hadn't lost their mind?

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol. I had some fun with that one!

  • @ironhornforge
    @ironhornforge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was a fantastic test, definitely one of my favourites.
    I would use them more often but the chips are nasty and I get so many steel splinters

  • @BuzzinVideography
    @BuzzinVideography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I trust project farm more than the manufacturing company

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you very much!

    • @breezyhillproductions349
      @breezyhillproductions349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course. The manufacturers have huge incentive to exaggerate and lie.

  • @jonjudice1155
    @jonjudice1155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't think I'm alone in saying that this is one of the best channels for informative testing and reviewing and it's incredibly important that we can keep this channel independent and free from corporate biased content, which hopefully will have an added benefit of knowing that they can't just lie to us through marketing and they'll have to start making quality products

  • @jordansankey2224
    @jordansankey2224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always awesome videos! Would love to see you test jeans. Could test rip resistance, cut resistance and wear resistance (my idea would be to use a cut out piece like sand paper to see how long it last before wear through)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for the video idea!

  • @TheSidneySmith
    @TheSidneySmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Just remember, sometimes you are carving up aluminum and do not want to eat the material off very quickly....so knowing which set of burrs doesn't cut fast is also helpful.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great point!

    • @LemonySnicket-EUC
      @LemonySnicket-EUC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      tool speed comes into play here as well. The bite can be viscous.

    • @harrywalker5836
      @harrywalker5836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      speed & pressure.. like drilling steel or stainless..

    • @F0XD1E
      @F0XD1E 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Seeing which ones gum up the least on aluminum would also be useful.

    • @LemonySnicket-EUC
      @LemonySnicket-EUC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@F0XD1E as you probably know a slower speed helps.

  • @ericgrzelak4280
    @ericgrzelak4280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great stuff, as always. You could measure wear less subjectively than the Project Farm Scale. What if you weighed the burrs before and after a test? You'd be measuring the amount of burr lost to wear.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Great suggestion!! Thank you

    • @M19pickles
      @M19pickles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I like the idea of a less subjective measurement but I am not sure a scale will be sensitive enough to measure that small of a change.
      My suggestion would be to use a displacement test. Drop the object in a graduated cylinder filled with water or oil and measure the change in height of the liquid. The narrower the cylinder the more dramatic the change will appear. It could also make for a good visual comparison for the video.

    • @jakass
      @jakass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You really think a displacement scale would showcase that small of a change in volume on those bits, really?

    • @deltalima6703
      @deltalima6703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Best test for wear is to do a second run and note the drop in performance. My 2 cents…

    • @Metzger23
      @Metzger23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deltalima6703 Yeah, the difference in time between the first and second pass should give an accurate representation of how much wear it has and an idea of how long it would last.

  • @captainkirk1745
    @captainkirk1745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your tests as they keep folks from expecting too much when working with tight budgets..
    Any chance of buying the used tools after you have tested them? I'm very interested if that is possible. Thanks and let me know.
    Again, thanks for all you do for us#

  • @islandfd3s
    @islandfd3s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It seems to me, at least at my price/performance taste, that the Kodiak and Jestuous are the clear leaders here for bang per buck.
    I'd probably go with the kodiaks if I was using them often, and the Jestuous for cheap ones.

    • @TheRolemodel1337
      @TheRolemodel1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      we need an endurance test for that
      if the champion lasts 5 times as long as the its competition because of the TN coating its clearly the
      ...champion
      sorry 😂

    • @JohnDoe-yq9ml
      @JohnDoe-yq9ml 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cleline is the best hands down and best bang for the buck.

    • @nobullshit9721
      @nobullshit9721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheRolemodel1337 lmao 🤣 for then price over 300$ it has to last over 8 times as long

  • @SlaggyJoe
    @SlaggyJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video as always. If I could make a suggestion: for wear tests on some items you may be able to weigh them after. While it wouldn't give a clear picture on how the tool wears, it could give a subjective idea of how much a tool wears down between tests.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he'd need a crazy accurate scientific style scale. The material loss on a tool like this is miniscule.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @SlaggyJoe
      @SlaggyJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@volvo09 But also non-zero, meaning it can be measured.

    • @SlaggyJoe
      @SlaggyJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Best Western Clean the tool off...?

  • @ch.6688
    @ch.6688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:31 Very impressive feature of tool bit attaching automatically to it's case when not in use! Some kind of strong magnet is used perhaps? lol

    • @tuttebelleke
      @tuttebelleke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what happens if you play the film backwards.

  • @diecastmental
    @diecastmental 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you were genius for doing this channel !! Looks like it's panning out for you with the experience you'll learning and the money coming in AND you really do provide a good service for your viewers :)

  • @ChaoticDetour
    @ChaoticDetour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sometimes the cheap stuff has surprised us, but definitely not this time. I can't decided between the Kodiak and Grobet. 40% premium for Grobet that lost its cutting consistency in the last test. As always thanks for the thorough testing.

  • @thinkfirst6431
    @thinkfirst6431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It looked to me like the Grobet did very well except for the last test which may be better served by using a different tool for that application. I would rather have 3 sets of the Jestuous than 1 set of the Grobet EXCEPT for the fact that the Jestuous is made in China. I will always purchase USA over China no matter what the cost unless I just can't get a USA tool that will do the job.
    Doesn't really matter as both are currently out of stock at the moment.

    • @haphazard1342
      @haphazard1342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, I think that the Grobet's overall performance shouldn't be discounted just because of its last-place showing in the final tip-plunge test. Just looking at performance in the first two, it performs second highest in average. Cle-Line is highest, and if you buy from Global Industrial the price per unit is almost the same as Grobet at ~$18. Kodiak is half the price, performs essentially as well, and only places in 4th for subjective wear (after Grobet and Cle-Line tied second, Champion first).

  • @TwinShards
    @TwinShards 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The company that made the "champion" really did mean it. Usually when you see a brand with a "strong name" like champion, best, ultra. You end up with something that is not great.
    *I'm looking at you Master Lock*

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @sydecarnutz972
    @sydecarnutz972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Single cut takes a bigger bite, but not as smooth running as a double cut. Some years back I ran a tool room in a machine shop. Spent many hours cleaning up freshly milled parts. The TiN coating can be useful, but only if it is done over a really good hard well machined base metal. You'll notice that cheap soft drill bits that have a TiN coating don't do anything for you, but a carbide drill bit with TiN coating will perform great and last a long time in the shop. Love your real world reviews! Thank you! You have helped me many times to buy good replacement tools!

  • @adecree
    @adecree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love tests like this! I'm buying a pack for wood sculpting, based on this I'll try the Yufutol as wood should wear the teeth significantly less

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

    • @lolatmyage
      @lolatmyage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are meant mostly for metal, the ones designed for wood are a bit different looking

  • @F4Wildcat
    @F4Wildcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey project farm, you should do something like a supermarket coffee comparision for april fools next year! Do crazy things like "wich coffee cools the best" and stuff

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for the video idea!

    • @F4Wildcat
      @F4Wildcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ProjectFarm And thank YOU for the amazing videos.

  • @Battle_Beard
    @Battle_Beard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I understand this is a test but you’re essentially trying to mill with a burr bit. This is a light finishing tool! Git you some endmills if you need heavy cuts!
    -A machinist.

  • @JimTheZombieHunter
    @JimTheZombieHunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work. I don't use burrs often enough to go for the top shelf, but also tend to pass up 'too good to be true' lest they leave me dry when I'm in a bind. Videos like this give folk like me the no nonsense to make good decisions. Thanks for your work.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @quixmith
    @quixmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    what I'm getting out of this test is the $40 Jestuous is constantly right beside the leaders, and the price to performance has got to be right up there.
    Edit: perhaps price to performance could be a factor?

  • @lilmike2710
    @lilmike2710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This one was especially useful for me because im about to port a set of 454 heads. 😀 But I'm not so sure that I wanna pay $300+ for a set of burrs 🤑 heck I was worried the die grinder was gonna be what hits me in the wallet!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @c0c0asauce
      @c0c0asauce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did most of the work with flap wheels when I ported my gen 6 454 heads. I just unshrouded the exhaust valves in the chamber and smoothed the exhaust valve guide. I could have gone faster with burs but I didn't plan to take out a ton of material since it's just a mild street setup and I'm not porting heads everyday. Good luck with your build!

    • @mattwarren2816
      @mattwarren2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@c0c0asauce flap wheels are great for cleaning ports

  • @Aleks_Mechanics
    @Aleks_Mechanics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    notification squad, Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You’re first! Hope you enjoy the video!

  • @Diebog
    @Diebog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it’s so awesome that you do these tests! Ive been watch your videos for some time now and wanted to say thanks. It’s helped me out as it has others. I’ve always wanted to do this kind of testing to find out myself and would love to be there right with you doing these experiments. I looks fun but I know you have so much time and work into these let alone the video editing so thank you for your time and keeping the content to the point, unbiased, and helpful to pros and homeowners.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @ShadowtheRotarygod
    @ShadowtheRotarygod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I laughed a little when you mentioned the "not for medical or dental use" I'm sure people are imagining a dentist grinding on your teeth with these. I worked in the dental and orthodontic field for about 13 years and we used Grobet burs exclusively but it was for model prep. Cutting and trimming plaster and dental stone and acrylic. If you ever had a retainer or something like that it was probably cut and shaped with a bur like these.
    When they hit the point of not working well on the dental stone and we were going to trash them I would take them home and use them in the garage on steel and they still cut like a dream.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @user-lh2xn5iy2p
    @user-lh2xn5iy2p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please test lead pellets! Of all these brands and shapes, prices differences, i really wonder what's the actual difference in accuracy, penetration and velocity for the price range!
    Thanks man love your channel so much

  • @pl5624
    @pl5624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lets get this started...

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you and hope you enjoy the video!

  • @williamcharles9480
    @williamcharles9480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Again, a most thorough bit of testing. I can't thank you enough, Project Farm. You are an American jewel that shines brightly.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the positive feedback!

  • @enricofermi3471
    @enricofermi3471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It is always so hilariously funny how most of the chinese tools, with very few exceptions, are so much cheaper than "made in " even with all the shipping they go through.

    • @theboz1419
      @theboz1419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If ________ country paid there workers what China pays there worker, then probably that country could be just as cheap. That also goes for the raw materials. When it comes to precision tools, most are made in other countries other then China.

    • @theboz1419
      @theboz1419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its also cheaper to ship something overseas then it is across land.

  • @ministryofwrongthink6962
    @ministryofwrongthink6962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Not for medical or dental use” *Who is that disclaimer for*

    • @Awesum
      @Awesum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dummies haha. They do make burrs for dental use of course, just not these