Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! KangTeer: amzn.to/3iPIGNe Yufutol: amzn.to/3JVN8G0 Jestuous: amzn.to/3wWexUJ Astro Pneumatic: amzn.to/3iNEdKD Osidu: amzn.to/3NzrsSf Kodiak: amzn.to/3tSs0uD Grobet: amzn.to/3iRpI8F Champion: amzn.to/3LrWdH0 Cle-Line: homedepot.sjv.io/jW6ND6
I thank you for doing these tests Project Farm, you don't only talk about tools or even upload click bait titles/videos, you actually do real legit tests and help people decide what brands to buy based on their budget. We all thank you PF and we all are proud to have you apart of the tool community.
As a heavy diesel tech I need different tools I never knew I needed, I've watched your content as much as I can when I need a real option when I decide to purchase. You're the first guy I think of when I need help deciding. Thank you for all the great things you do, you're a real one for keeping it a 100 percent honest. Us blue collar workers thank you.
I'm not in the tech game anymore, I left for another career but when I was I always had a die grinder with a burr in it. Made installing bushes etc so much quicker, cleaned up lips on drums and discs, cleaning out rust from spring centre bolt holes, so many uses
Check out Rescue Bit. They are an Amazon and other places. I've been in HD repair for close to 50 years. I have never seen ANYTHING that cuts like these. They will cut thru the screw extractor and or drill bit you have broken off in the busted exhaust manifold stud/bolt your trying to get out. I run it with a Cornwell die grinder. They run dry. READ the directions. First time I used one it saved me from from removing a cylinder head to get a broken exhaust manifold bolt out.
Has anyone else found themselves standing in a store watching one of these video's before buying anything? I ended up with two people watching over my shoulder before the video was finished. I waked out with what I wanted, and the other two guys bought the same thing even though it wasn't what they came for. Please keep up the amazing work, there is nothing I trust more than your videos when it comes to finding quality tools at a good price.
Lol. I worked in the two big auto parts stores. Every employee and customer would invoke Todd as if "it was written". He wrecked my Pennsoil Platinum Ultra inventory when that video dropped. His reputation continues to boggle me. Not that he hasn't earned it but apart from Keanu Reeves, and Betty White, he might be the internet's darling. A rare good guy makes good story.
Instead of motor oil brand shootouts, it would be interesting to test the different oils from the same brand to see differences. For instance, Mobil 1 has “advanced fuel economy”, “high mileage”, “extended performance”, etc.
Wow. 🤯 That's an EXCELLENT idea. Genius. I watch every PF video and it never occured to me to focus on a specific brand's products. Happy to see PF loved this comment. Selfishly, Ryobi bits would be my top interest. Or PF could choose "top performers" from each existing video if the brand sells horizontally marketed products.
We viewers appreciate the thank you but you’re the one who deserves thanks. I recommend your videos to anyone who buys tools, not just because you deserve the subs, but also because I know that anyone who watches these videos will instantly become a far more informed consumer. The importance of having informed consumers can’t be overstated, especially in a country like ours that is built upon capitalism. If the consumer isn’t informed, companies have no monetary incentive to improve their products. The more informed the consumer is, the better products we will get. Better products means less time and money wasted in our jobs and hobbies, which I appreciate to no end. Before project farm, tools would break on me, or they wouldn’t perform well, even if I bought the most expensive one. Now that I’ve found this channel, everything I’ve bought from Todd’s testing has lasted, done the job effectively, and many times, those products aren’t the most expensive ones in the showdown. My tools last longer, work better, and are often cheaper, it’s not hard to imagine how much money that saves altogether. For myself and plenty of others working in the trades, your videos make our lives easier, and give us more money to take home to our families at the end of the day which is something that I can’t begin to thank you enough for.
Each of your videos that I watched, sound more scientific than most of doctorate degree papers. Abstract, introduction, methodology, trial group, control group, outcome measures, analysis, results presentation, suggestions.. Everything is organized in a such brilliant way. I love watching your videos, with a great respect.
How does it feel to be a man who has EARNED respect from MILLIONS of people? You my you tube friend deserve all the gratitude you receive from all of us!!! Great job as usual - I have told you i follow your recommendations almost as closely as i do my Bible!!!
Thank you very much! The respect is greatly appreciated and I'll work as hard as possible to maintain the best testing possible and without any influence from manufacturers. Thanks again!!
I've used these in the past and didn't have very good results. After watching your outstanding testing video, I think I'm going to have to buy a new set. LOL Thanks for all the time and money you put into making these videos! A++
@@Jako1987 to be honest I bought a set of cheap no brands from amazon. They were like €30 for 10 I think? Used rm a couple of times on your average construction steel using my milwaukee M12 die grinder, they work quite a charm!
I love how you're able to think up real-world use tests that show just how good these tools are. You, my friend, are a genius! Project Farm is one of the most influential (and important) channels on TH-cam.
I have to say, I really love (among many other things about this channel) how you show the tooth wear. You don't just say what you think or give a rating, you show it to us under a microscope while you talk about it! Even tho it may be a little bit subjective, you provide the information readily for someone else to make their own subjective rating on it as well, and it's just so seamlessly fit into the video!
When I'm looking to buy a new tool or piece of equipment, I always come here to see if it's been reviewed. I can't thank you enough for all your effort and unbiased testing. You are the Consumer Reports of tools and equipment.
I just bought the Kodiak set 3 months ago and I've been very happy with them although I primarily use them on mild steel and cast iron. At the time they were the only American made carbide burrs I could find, these are not easy tools to look up even on the interwebs. Thanks again for another great video!
Just want to say thank you for never selling out, always doing realistic real world testing, and being overall very fun to watch! Video idea here, cheap vs quality pry bar sets. Tip bending, deflection, snapping point, ability to withstand striking, and chemical and drop test durability would be neat to see for really world use and application. Much love man, you’re awesome!
I love the fact that you don't take any sponsorship's, and you do what I would call "real world testing" on the products you review. Some of you test rigs are absolutely amazing! You have helped me (and I am sure many others) to pick the right product for the right price on many occasions. Thanks for all of the hard work you do, Sir! o7
I wouldn't necessarily call this one "real world testing".... This particular test, while interesting, is missing an important factor. A die grinder..... Some rotary burr designs perform better at higher RPMs, some perform far worse....
What I love about your testing is how you test products, like tools, under normal use conditions, then you stress test them. Seeing the breaking point of products is crucial, especially when making a determination if a more expensive product is worth it. I look out for your videos every week and you never disappoint, keep up the great work.
No way, the way he's testing these tools is flawed, that's not real life testing. A real proper test, would be using a solid carbide Burr on a solid carbide Endmill. As a machinist I've seen demonstration where you use a solid carbide endmill to mill a slot length wise on an other carbide Endmill and the endmill that did the slot shows no damages on the flutes. The way he's doing his test is abusing these tools to get faulty results. That's why it's a faulty or bias methodology. If I were to do that same style of test, that Project Farm did, to find the best tooling for my job, I would be out of a job. Listen I've used cheap set of Burr's even in a high speed CNC Mill setting and the tool held fine on hard to machine Inconel.
@@lepompier132 Man he tested the burrs in a way ideologically consistent with how regular people would use them in their own home-gamer shops. People aren't in their personal shops cutting carbide usually, nor are they cutting any formulation of Inconel, and they particularly don't normally have a $60k CNC machine to throw into the mix. Of course you would be fired if you did a tooling test like this, they pay you more than was spent on all the tools combined for this test.
@@MedicSound Sorry I don't agree with you, the average person won't abuse de-Burring tool in that fashion. In order to get the same pressure on the tool for an average user in the garage, he would have to put his full weight on it, when in reality he doesn't have a steady hand to force the tools in the metal, let alone something that's hard like a grade A bolt. With common sens, someone in hos garage will use the 4 inch grinder first and once the grinder has done it's job they will use a die grinder with a Burr tool to clean and prep the zone and from experience I've seen the use of Burr tools after the 4 inch grinder to finish cleaning removing the rest of the weld. Or prep the zone to weld with bass. And like I said in my original comment, I've used Burr tools Carbide and High Speed Steel version and I don't destroy them, in fact I have a cheap set and that set gave me the best results. That's why I say his test is flawed because it doesn't reflect reality of use. And since in his video he used Carbide version. When you know how they make carbide tools, you tend to respect them and they have a longer life.
THANK YOU so much!! I literally have three sets of these in my Amazon cart right now and was trying to figure out which is best. You posted this video right in time helping me yet again in my purchasing power!! Words cannot express how thankful I am for you and your Channel!!
I have a lot of respect for channels that test products like this. This is great, you basically just gave me a free ticket to skip years of experience buying and trying different burrs to compare. Thanks so much, keep it up!
A great video project farm Having experience in burrs helps and you hit the nail on the head for these tests. I am in market for a set and I will look at the made in USA sets again before making a purchase
You never cease to amaze me with the contraptions you come up with to test these tools or equipment. Just seeing your contraptions you use are just as entertaining as seeing how well the tools perform? I definitely trust your testing and opinions over anyone else anywhere and I often buy items off the results you shown in your testing videos! Your appreciated probably more then you’ll ever know by everyone watching your testing! In the long run your saving people a lot of money and frustration showing which tools are better and which ones aren’t worth buying in the first place! Thanks for everything you do!
I would have thought the single direction cut on the cle-line would have made it perform poorly, but I think they're onto something there. Very interesting. Great test as always.
We use them on aluminum. Extremely aggressive and can chew through a terrifying amount of aluminum in a few seconds. Doesn’t gal quite as quick, either
This was a useful test and review for me as a metal fabricator. Thank you for your effort and time to provide this data. I was hoping my favorite brand of burrs would have been tested, which is Pferd brand. I've been very satisfied with all Pferd tools and accessories.
Carbide burrs can rip through wood. But you're probably better off using a cheap rotary rasp. Although the rasp finish is rougher than the finish a burr leaves. The rotary rasp is like a rasp and the burr is like a file. You're probably going to have to finish with sandpaper anyways. A straight conical rotary rasp can be just the thing for weird wood shaping. I've never found a use for any of the other profiles.
I'm 42 and quite the jack of all trades. But watching this channel makes me realize how stupid I really am, because you sir are a think tank kind of mastermind. I'm in awe of how much knowledge you possess and thank you so much for not only being so thorough and helpful to all of us seeking further education, but keeping it real and not getting bought out like a lot of these other channels. Cheers!
Great review, and timely too. I'm finally ready to replace my Snap-on set purchased approx. 40 years ago. I always ran them at the proper speed and pressure which is why they lasted so long. Thank you Project Farm!
Thank you for staying true to yourself. Thank you for not uploading clickbait titles or falsifying information. Thank you for making every test as Fair as possible within reason but keeping it consumer-friendly and idiot approved LOL! Pretty much anyone can watch your videos and know which product is going to do the best for them! Love it and keep up the good work
Thank You again for your testing. So many of the tools, oils and other items in my shed are there simply because I was able to see tests that proved their durability and usefulness. Carbide burrs certainly are useful in ones shop. I used to blend ports for performance engines and found my choices for superior burrs. While I no longer offer that service, I still use burrs to fit parts better and might do porting and polishing for my own engines. Simply put: Another excellent choice for a subject and excellent testing!
I rely on your testing and processes to help me spend what limited resources I have to get tools I need for tasks that come up. With resources being tight after COVID it has been even more necessary. thank you for all the good you do!
I am always impressed by the attention to detail you apply to your tests! You take into account ALL the variables that could affect the results. Bravo!
I’ve ported a lot of heads and intakes along with cleaning up castings in valve bodies and transmission cases etc. I’ve ALWAYS learned you get what you pay for with burr bits. Great review as always.
There is only one sponsor I have seen you take: your supporters and subscribers! I applaud you for the honest and thorough testing. Thank you for all that you do!
A die grinder is gonna be the best for power and speed. Air powered has always been king but electric seems to have caught up just fine so either is fine to me. Just remember some tools like drills aren't made for side loads. You can use them but you won't get good results in comparison.
Well, if you're using rotary burrs, a die grinder works rather well. The DeWalt rotary tool he used works well too if you need better control than what a die grinder allows. For small projects, dremel and ryobi actually make decent rotary tools.
Most 'rotary tools' are going to be more like a Dremel only chuck small 1/8" shaft tools. For burr bits and most other 1/4" accessories you'll want a die grinder. This will get you the 20k RPM speeds the bits are designed for. Astro has a decent pneumatic set with a straight and right angled one bundled together. The 'chief' brand HF ones are okay too. Many other brands to choose from for pneumatic, those are two I have experience with and would buy again. For battery powered, the M12 is king. For the corded electric the Bosch is nice. I like using 2" sanding discs and wire cups in my right angle and use my straight die grinder for burr bits and cutoff discs.
I love this channel! FInally a PROPER test channel. So much time goes into making these videos. THANK YOU GOOD SIR FOR DOING THE LEGWORK. All of us benefit from your hard work. Thank you again for sorting out the bad from the.good. You dear sir make our world a better place to live in.
I've only ever use mini versions of these that fit in a Dremel type rotary tool. Cool to see what quality bigger versions will do. I was rooting for the Kodiak as I bought an 1/8th inch carbide end mill from them years ago as a better router bit for my Dremel and it performed really well.
So depending on what material you are working on you can get the rotozip bit that are normally for cutting thru drywall and other stuff and use them in the dremel and they work pretty well as long as its not metal. They also have some tile cutting bits and grout removing bits that are basically carbide burrs anyway and those work great for pretty much anything you need, Just have to make sure its the right size it get the dremek collet chuck attachment. but they work great and can sometimes be cheaper than the dremel bits or other alternatives
dremels have the R.P.M. to make good use of some of these bits probably need them a little smaller though. i have use these in a pneumatic die grinder for cutting through spot welds in ford strut towers to be able to adjust camber and caster in a wheel alignment...
I have been using American-made Atrax 1/8" shank carbide bits, purchased over 35 years ago when I was a car stereo installer, in my Dremel tool. They're slightly chipped and beat up after years of use and abuse but they still work! The company was founded by ex Pratt and Whitney tool and die makers, and they still make their products in the USA today. My bits weren't cheap when I bought them, and they're quite expensive nowadays, but I have gotten more than my money's worth out of them. I would love to see Project Farm do a review of various 1/8" shank bits for Dremel tools and other similar miniature rotary die grinders.
@@connorjohnson4402, I did try the Dremel brand ceramic tile cutting bits (diamond) when I needed to trim away some tile from around an electrical box when we redid our kitchen, but they didn't work well at all for me.
I would love to see you testing "ceramic coatings" for engines. The ones you put in the oil before and after oil change. RVS and Resurs Total are atleast two companies that I know off. I would love to see if they actually does reduce friction and helps the engine or the gearbox etc. (There is many products for different applications with those oil additives)
@@MoSportsUSA He's done quite a few videos with oil additives. The self-destructing Predator videos were fun to watch. I believe Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer won that series of tests.
One of very few tests that I've seen where the more expensive brands have the edge over competitors. Kind of strange to see it when it comes to burr bits though. You'd think price-to-performance would show up in more substantial tooling but here we are.
Yeah, a lot of times the less expensive tool is just as good, I think the difference here is metallurgy - the specific alloys and precise heat treatment. It's what makes the difference in high-end knives for instance.
@@oldbridgemaker2094 I agree totally. The cheap burrs could likely benefit from better heat treating but they just aren't made from as good a steel. That would be an interesting thing to test though. Send off some cheap burrs for a proper heat treat. Might even find some other tools it's beneficial on. Maybe cheap impact sockets, files and whatnot.
i don't even need these tools or products 99 percent of the time, but love watching a true professional unbiased review process with pleasant commentary.
I have a set of Cle-Line and they cut great and fast, however the chips they produce go right thru my gloves and I spend days digging the chips out of my hands
Dont use any of these brands but have the same problem, gest chips in my gloves, shoes, hair and underpants. But at least I'm not breathing the shit like with a angle grinder. XD
This is by far my favourite TH-cam channel, your no nonsense testing always give me piece of mind before buying tools and equipment. Many thanks for your efforts, and well done. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for another great unbiased review! Something I've often noticed is that the import and Chinese products are often a lot cheaper, and worse than their US made counterparts at higher price. This might be difficult to do, but I would like to see a comparison of some products at similar price points with different origin. Is a $100 German product better/worse/equal to a Chinese or US made one?
Thank you Todd for all your amazing tool reviews! I really appreciate your dedication to accurate testing. I just purchased a set of Jestuos carbide burrs after watching your latest video. Please keep up the great work!
Despite what one manufacturer may say, these are great for DIY dentistry. I have successfully ground down all my teeth and no longer have to deal with the inconvenience of brushing or the excruciating pain of accidentally biting my tongue.
This guy has helped me make several educated tool choices and when people ask me about my selection I always refer them to this channel. For instance I bought into the Milwaukee M18 line for my battery powered tools because of the impact driver and multitool videos
Todd, I watch every video you put out very intently, although I'll probably only need less that 10% of what you review...that is how enjoyable your reviews are. But I will admit...as much as I pay attention, that magic bit at 5:31 made me jump a bit! You never fail to entertain as well as educate.
"We're gonna test that" has to be the most innocuous catchphrase that I've ever enjoyed this much... Just goes to show what great content thorough and honest reviews make.
My personal opinion is that long term wear is more important than saving a few seconds. These tests put a lot more stress on the tools than I do. A lighter touch keeps tools in excellent shape.
and w these metal cutting burrs, it seems that its almost more productive at removing material with LESS pressure applied from user.... like you cant just turn em on n set them on the metal to bore out, as it will get all choppy n bounce up n around. but juuust enough pressure to ensure the tool won't go bouncing outta ur hands is all that seems to be needed, i feel like too much pressure causes it to dig in too deep the be avle to carve and eject the metal shavings out fast enough to keep up w its rotation.. but lighter touch lets it just glide across the metal and itll sink into it before you realize its even happening!!!
I use these a lot to cut out steel, sometimes to make 16-50 mm holes in 1 1/2" steel, when you do that you cannot have 'a lighter touch' or you will be there all week. It sucks but jobs that call for the die grinder are not ideal, thats where your first options wouldn't fit.
@@elliotkane4443 what's your line of work? There are better tools to do what you've described than a carbide Burr. Oxyfuel, plasma cutter, magdrill. Unless you're just dressing a hole to size, that sounds like a lot of work.
@@himynameisjeff Boilermaker/Ironworker on this 1, We're not allowed to use oxy/plasma and I use my die grinder where the mag drill won't fit. I could weld on a plate for the mag drill but it's just not an efficient use of time.
@@appalachiangunman9589 I think it's just the fact that US manufacrurers has had experience with making alloys, so they know what they are doing. It isn't really just China, Japanese burrs are pretty shit too, US really is the best for tools, the quality is unmatched.
For the bolt cutting and Allen Wrench cutting tests, it looks like the deciding factor is how fast the bit can heat the metal up to the point that it loses temper and becomes soft enough to chew through.
I only have one bit, the oval shaped one. I can grind into metal till they are smoking red and then put my finger on the bit; it is still room temperature. Titanium Carbide is such an unbelievable material.
Been watching your channel sporadically throughout the years, mostly just when I’m looking for specific tool showdowns. In my time with this channel, I’ve never experienced clickbait, brand loyalty, or anything outside of plainly, and fairly, testing tools and products. Thank you for having remained consistent with your integrity.
Thank you for such great and consistent content! Every week this is one of the highlights of my weekend. You've sorta become the Myhtbusters of tools, cant wait for more content. My only suggestion is that you maybe do more revisits of previous videos with additional tool options, or when new tools are released by some manufacturers. Thanks!
I just love these tests! I’m actually considering getting a set of these. I do love a good set of tools. Thanks for all you do and keep up the amazing work.
Great review. For me, only having to buy a tool once instead of 5-6 times over my lifetime is much better. Especially when those tools will outlive me and possibly become heirloom tools. I'll be getting a set of either the Cle-Line or Grober thanks to your review.
I'd buy a cheaper set (probably the Kodiak), then replace them as they wear out with higher-quality single burs (I like Pferd the best, but I've had good luck with Cle-Line too). You'll find a "favorite" shape for your work, and you'll only grab the other ones when you have a special need. Be careful with the ball burs, they cut a lot faster than you expect them to.
Sounds great till you spin out and the burr catches hard. Doesn't matter how much you paid then. I like the other posters thinking. Get a cheap set and see what you use, and what you break. Then buy accordingly. Sometimes you buy the one good one. Like my 3 foot long half inch Harbor Freight breaker bar. Broke one so easy at first I thought I'd mounted the socket funny. Got another one and it has turned out to be a beast that has had a 5 foot pipe put on it more than a few times.
@@1985cjjeeper And sometimes using a trash bit is what causes the problem to begin with. When you're talking about craftsmanship and developing a skillset with tools, you're teaching yourself bad habits if you use tools that aren't going to do the job right. Case in point, you buy a set of cheap burrs and end up using way too much pressure to perform a certain task, and you end up overheating the bit or losing control of it...so you go out and buy a good set and destroy them too because you default to using far more pressure than the bit needs. Had you started with a good set, that learned behavior wouldn't exist.
I don’t think WE say thank you enough, you are providing incredibly valuable information to the hard working public. You and AvE are incredible people and I personally can not put a value on your work. Thank you.
Great channel! Keep up the good work! Found you while confused at the store faced with a wall of penetrating oils to deal with stuck nuts on my rear shock absorbers. While Seafoam did a great job taking the rusty nuts out, the nozzle easily broke when the can took a tumble. Wd40 has a tougher design.
I don't think I'm alone in saying that this is one of the best channels for informative testing and reviewing and it's incredibly important that we can keep this channel independent and free from corporate biased content, which hopefully will have an added benefit of knowing that they can't just lie to us through marketing and they'll have to start making quality products
Always awesome videos! Would love to see you test jeans. Could test rip resistance, cut resistance and wear resistance (my idea would be to use a cut out piece like sand paper to see how long it last before wear through)
Just remember, sometimes you are carving up aluminum and do not want to eat the material off very quickly....so knowing which set of burrs doesn't cut fast is also helpful.
Great stuff, as always. You could measure wear less subjectively than the Project Farm Scale. What if you weighed the burrs before and after a test? You'd be measuring the amount of burr lost to wear.
I like the idea of a less subjective measurement but I am not sure a scale will be sensitive enough to measure that small of a change. My suggestion would be to use a displacement test. Drop the object in a graduated cylinder filled with water or oil and measure the change in height of the liquid. The narrower the cylinder the more dramatic the change will appear. It could also make for a good visual comparison for the video.
@@deltalima6703 Yeah, the difference in time between the first and second pass should give an accurate representation of how much wear it has and an idea of how long it would last.
I love your tests as they keep folks from expecting too much when working with tight budgets.. Any chance of buying the used tools after you have tested them? I'm very interested if that is possible. Thanks and let me know. Again, thanks for all you do for us#
It seems to me, at least at my price/performance taste, that the Kodiak and Jestuous are the clear leaders here for bang per buck. I'd probably go with the kodiaks if I was using them often, and the Jestuous for cheap ones.
we need an endurance test for that if the champion lasts 5 times as long as the its competition because of the TN coating its clearly the ...champion sorry 😂
Awesome video as always. If I could make a suggestion: for wear tests on some items you may be able to weigh them after. While it wouldn't give a clear picture on how the tool wears, it could give a subjective idea of how much a tool wears down between tests.
you were genius for doing this channel !! Looks like it's panning out for you with the experience you'll learning and the money coming in AND you really do provide a good service for your viewers :)
Sometimes the cheap stuff has surprised us, but definitely not this time. I can't decided between the Kodiak and Grobet. 40% premium for Grobet that lost its cutting consistency in the last test. As always thanks for the thorough testing.
It looked to me like the Grobet did very well except for the last test which may be better served by using a different tool for that application. I would rather have 3 sets of the Jestuous than 1 set of the Grobet EXCEPT for the fact that the Jestuous is made in China. I will always purchase USA over China no matter what the cost unless I just can't get a USA tool that will do the job. Doesn't really matter as both are currently out of stock at the moment.
I agree, I think that the Grobet's overall performance shouldn't be discounted just because of its last-place showing in the final tip-plunge test. Just looking at performance in the first two, it performs second highest in average. Cle-Line is highest, and if you buy from Global Industrial the price per unit is almost the same as Grobet at ~$18. Kodiak is half the price, performs essentially as well, and only places in 4th for subjective wear (after Grobet and Cle-Line tied second, Champion first).
The company that made the "champion" really did mean it. Usually when you see a brand with a "strong name" like champion, best, ultra. You end up with something that is not great. *I'm looking at you Master Lock*
Single cut takes a bigger bite, but not as smooth running as a double cut. Some years back I ran a tool room in a machine shop. Spent many hours cleaning up freshly milled parts. The TiN coating can be useful, but only if it is done over a really good hard well machined base metal. You'll notice that cheap soft drill bits that have a TiN coating don't do anything for you, but a carbide drill bit with TiN coating will perform great and last a long time in the shop. Love your real world reviews! Thank you! You have helped me many times to buy good replacement tools!
Hey project farm, you should do something like a supermarket coffee comparision for april fools next year! Do crazy things like "wich coffee cools the best" and stuff
I understand this is a test but you’re essentially trying to mill with a burr bit. This is a light finishing tool! Git you some endmills if you need heavy cuts! -A machinist.
Nice work. I don't use burrs often enough to go for the top shelf, but also tend to pass up 'too good to be true' lest they leave me dry when I'm in a bind. Videos like this give folk like me the no nonsense to make good decisions. Thanks for your work.
what I'm getting out of this test is the $40 Jestuous is constantly right beside the leaders, and the price to performance has got to be right up there. Edit: perhaps price to performance could be a factor?
This one was especially useful for me because im about to port a set of 454 heads. 😀 But I'm not so sure that I wanna pay $300+ for a set of burrs 🤑 heck I was worried the die grinder was gonna be what hits me in the wallet!
I did most of the work with flap wheels when I ported my gen 6 454 heads. I just unshrouded the exhaust valves in the chamber and smoothed the exhaust valve guide. I could have gone faster with burs but I didn't plan to take out a ton of material since it's just a mild street setup and I'm not porting heads everyday. Good luck with your build!
I think it’s so awesome that you do these tests! Ive been watch your videos for some time now and wanted to say thanks. It’s helped me out as it has others. I’ve always wanted to do this kind of testing to find out myself and would love to be there right with you doing these experiments. I looks fun but I know you have so much time and work into these let alone the video editing so thank you for your time and keeping the content to the point, unbiased, and helpful to pros and homeowners.
I laughed a little when you mentioned the "not for medical or dental use" I'm sure people are imagining a dentist grinding on your teeth with these. I worked in the dental and orthodontic field for about 13 years and we used Grobet burs exclusively but it was for model prep. Cutting and trimming plaster and dental stone and acrylic. If you ever had a retainer or something like that it was probably cut and shaped with a bur like these. When they hit the point of not working well on the dental stone and we were going to trash them I would take them home and use them in the garage on steel and they still cut like a dream.
Please test lead pellets! Of all these brands and shapes, prices differences, i really wonder what's the actual difference in accuracy, penetration and velocity for the price range! Thanks man love your channel so much
It is always so hilariously funny how most of the chinese tools, with very few exceptions, are so much cheaper than "made in " even with all the shipping they go through.
If ________ country paid there workers what China pays there worker, then probably that country could be just as cheap. That also goes for the raw materials. When it comes to precision tools, most are made in other countries other then China.
Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
KangTeer: amzn.to/3iPIGNe
Yufutol: amzn.to/3JVN8G0
Jestuous: amzn.to/3wWexUJ
Astro Pneumatic: amzn.to/3iNEdKD
Osidu: amzn.to/3NzrsSf
Kodiak: amzn.to/3tSs0uD
Grobet: amzn.to/3iRpI8F
Champion: amzn.to/3LrWdH0
Cle-Line: homedepot.sjv.io/jW6ND6
I thank you for doing these tests Project Farm, you don't only talk about tools or even upload click bait titles/videos, you actually do real legit tests and help people decide what brands to buy based on their budget. We all thank you PF and we all are proud to have you apart of the tool community.
This means a lot to me! Thank you!!
Well said and agreed
@mancaver you are a great channel also very few people on TH-cam like you great honest content you can trust!!
MCT, you the man!
Agreed
The Champion set is expensive but having the bits magically go back in the case themselves may be worth it.
lol. Absolutely right!!
They will never get lost that way.
I thought that was pretty cool! Lol
Does champion make a case for 10mm sockets? That would be a money maker right there.
TOTALLY AGREE on the Champion Brand
As a heavy diesel tech I need different tools I never knew I needed, I've watched your content as much as I can when I need a real option when I decide to purchase. You're the first guy I think of when I need help deciding. Thank you for all the great things you do, you're a real one for keeping it a 100 percent honest. Us blue collar workers thank you.
Thanks and you are welcome!
So true I'm a DIY homeowner and use this channel before I buy stuff. I now use the wipers from the wiper video and never been happier!
I'm not in the tech game anymore, I left for another career but when I was I always had a die grinder with a burr in it. Made installing bushes etc so much quicker, cleaned up lips on drums and discs, cleaning out rust from spring centre bolt holes, so many uses
Hear hear. I'm a plant E/I and this is where I begin my search
Check out Rescue Bit. They are an Amazon and other places. I've been in HD repair for close to 50 years. I have never seen ANYTHING that cuts like these. They will cut thru the screw extractor and or drill bit you have broken off in the busted exhaust manifold stud/bolt your trying to get out. I run it with a Cornwell die grinder. They run dry. READ the directions. First time I used one it saved me from from removing a cylinder head to get a broken exhaust manifold bolt out.
Has anyone else found themselves standing in a store watching one of these video's before buying anything? I ended up with two people watching over my shoulder before the video was finished. I waked out with what I wanted, and the other two guys bought the same thing even though it wasn't what they came for. Please keep up the amazing work, there is nothing I trust more than your videos when it comes to finding quality tools at a good price.
Thanks, will do!
Have I!😂
Lol. I worked in the two big auto parts stores. Every employee and customer would invoke Todd as if "it was written". He wrecked my Pennsoil Platinum Ultra inventory when that video dropped. His reputation continues to boggle me. Not that he hasn't earned it but apart from Keanu Reeves, and Betty White, he might be the internet's darling. A rare good guy makes good story.
Instead of motor oil brand shootouts, it would be interesting to test the different oils from the same brand to see differences. For instance, Mobil 1 has “advanced fuel economy”, “high mileage”, “extended performance”, etc.
Thank you for the video idea!
I second this!
Wow. 🤯 That's an EXCELLENT idea. Genius. I watch every PF video and it never occured to me to focus on a specific brand's products. Happy to see PF loved this comment.
Selfishly, Ryobi bits would be my top interest.
Or PF could choose "top performers" from each existing video if the brand sells horizontally marketed products.
I like that idea.
This is a great idea!!!!
We viewers appreciate the thank you but you’re the one who deserves thanks. I recommend your videos to anyone who buys tools, not just because you deserve the subs, but also because I know that anyone who watches these videos will instantly become a far more informed consumer. The importance of having informed consumers can’t be overstated, especially in a country like ours that is built upon capitalism. If the consumer isn’t informed, companies have no monetary incentive to improve their products. The more informed the consumer is, the better products we will get. Better products means less time and money wasted in our jobs and hobbies, which I appreciate to no end. Before project farm, tools would break on me, or they wouldn’t perform well, even if I bought the most expensive one. Now that I’ve found this channel, everything I’ve bought from Todd’s testing has lasted, done the job effectively, and many times, those products aren’t the most expensive ones in the showdown. My tools last longer, work better, and are often cheaper, it’s not hard to imagine how much money that saves altogether. For myself and plenty of others working in the trades, your videos make our lives easier, and give us more money to take home to our families at the end of the day which is something that I can’t begin to thank you enough for.
Thank you!
This was a nice message. I agree
Couldn't agree more
My brother's and I, (50 , 48 , 42 years old ) love to work with our hands , thus project farm is all our go to on tool choices.
Turning down sponsors; that's why this is one of the best channels on TH-cam - you stay unbiased.
Thank YOU for your work :)
Glad you like them!
Each of your videos that I watched, sound more scientific than most of doctorate degree papers. Abstract, introduction, methodology, trial group, control group, outcome measures, analysis, results presentation, suggestions.. Everything is organized in a such brilliant way. I love watching your videos, with a great respect.
Thanks!
How does it feel to be a man who has EARNED respect from MILLIONS of people? You my you tube friend deserve all the gratitude you receive from all of us!!! Great job as usual - I have told you i follow your recommendations almost as closely as i do my Bible!!!
Thank you very much! The respect is greatly appreciated and I'll work as hard as possible to maintain the best testing possible and without any influence from manufacturers. Thanks again!!
Your religion is like your genitals. Don't show it or talk about it to strangers. Especially when children could be around.
Well said!
I've used these in the past and didn't have very good results. After watching your outstanding testing video, I think I'm going to have to buy a new set. LOL Thanks for all the time and money you put into making these videos! A++
Which set did you have fail?
Thank you very much!!
@@paulcopeland9035 If I had to guess it was a no name brand from a general store
@@Jako1987 Combined with incorrect use.
@@Jako1987 to be honest I bought a set of cheap no brands from amazon. They were like €30 for 10 I think?
Used rm a couple of times on your average construction steel using my milwaukee M12 die grinder, they work quite a charm!
I love how you're able to think up real-world use tests that show just how good these tools are. You, my friend, are a genius! Project Farm is one of the most influential (and important) channels on TH-cam.
Thank you very much!
I have binge-watched this channel and I am truly appreciative of the work you put in to legitimize testing and make it fair and impartial.
Thanks so much!
I have to say, I really love (among many other things about this channel) how you show the tooth wear. You don't just say what you think or give a rating, you show it to us under a microscope while you talk about it! Even tho it may be a little bit subjective, you provide the information readily for someone else to make their own subjective rating on it as well, and it's just so seamlessly fit into the video!
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When I'm looking to buy a new tool or piece of equipment, I always come here to see if it's been reviewed. I can't thank you enough for all your effort and unbiased testing. You are the Consumer Reports of tools and equipment.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
I agree! I buy based off of your videos for what I need! We all thank you so much!
Me too
I just bought the Kodiak set 3 months ago and I've been very happy with them although I primarily use them on mild steel and cast iron. At the time they were the only American made carbide burrs I could find, these are not easy tools to look up even on the interwebs. Thanks again for another great video!
Just want to say thank you for never selling out, always doing realistic real world testing, and being overall very fun to watch! Video idea here, cheap vs quality pry bar sets. Tip bending, deflection, snapping point, ability to withstand striking, and chemical and drop test durability would be neat to see for really world use and application. Much love man, you’re awesome!
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.
@@anumpirzada3312 I just checked and they suck
@@anumpirzada3312 I have enough worthless Chinese garbage around my house, no thanks.
I love the fact that you don't take any sponsorship's, and you do what I would call "real world testing" on the products you review. Some of you test rigs are absolutely amazing! You have helped me (and I am sure many others) to pick the right product for the right price on many occasions. Thanks for all of the hard work you do, Sir! o7
This means a lot to me! So thank you very much!
I wouldn't necessarily call this one "real world testing".... This particular test, while interesting, is missing an important factor. A die grinder..... Some rotary burr designs perform better at higher RPMs, some perform far worse....
What I love about your testing is how you test products, like tools, under normal use conditions, then you stress test them. Seeing the breaking point of products is crucial, especially when making a determination if a more expensive product is worth it. I look out for your videos every week and you never disappoint, keep up the great work.
Thanks, will do!
No way, the way he's testing these tools is flawed, that's not real life testing. A real proper test, would be using a solid carbide Burr on a solid carbide Endmill. As a machinist I've seen demonstration where you use a solid carbide endmill to mill a slot length wise on an other carbide Endmill and the endmill that did the slot shows no damages on the flutes. The way he's doing his test is abusing these tools to get faulty results. That's why it's a faulty or bias methodology. If I were to do that same style of test, that Project Farm did, to find the best tooling for my job, I would be out of a job.
Listen I've used cheap set of Burr's even in a high speed CNC Mill setting and the tool held fine on hard to machine Inconel.
@@lepompier132 Man he tested the burrs in a way ideologically consistent with how regular people would use them in their own home-gamer shops. People aren't in their personal shops cutting carbide usually, nor are they cutting any formulation of Inconel, and they particularly don't normally have a $60k CNC machine to throw into the mix. Of course you would be fired if you did a tooling test like this, they pay you more than was spent on all the tools combined for this test.
@@MedicSound Sorry I don't agree with you, the average person won't abuse de-Burring tool in that fashion. In order to get the same pressure on the tool for an average user in the garage, he would have to put his full weight on it, when in reality he doesn't have a steady hand to force the tools in the metal, let alone something that's hard like a grade A bolt. With common sens, someone in hos garage will use the 4 inch grinder first and once the grinder has done it's job they will use a die grinder with a Burr tool to clean and prep the zone and from experience I've seen the use of Burr tools after the 4 inch grinder to finish cleaning removing the rest of the weld. Or prep the zone to weld with bass. And like I said in my original comment, I've used Burr tools Carbide and High Speed Steel version and I don't destroy them, in fact I have a cheap set and that set gave me the best results. That's why I say his test is flawed because it doesn't reflect reality of use. And since in his video he used Carbide version. When you know how they make carbide tools, you tend to respect them and they have a longer life.
THANK YOU so much!! I literally have three sets of these in my Amazon cart right now and was trying to figure out which is best. You posted this video right in time helping me yet again in my purchasing power!! Words cannot express how thankful I am for you and your Channel!!
What did you get?
@@MattTrevett, bought 1 from champion and 1 from kodiak.
Thanks so much!
That's so awesome dude. In this world of questionable quality and value these videos help everyone and you are a perfect example of that
@@DC_DC_DC_DC, I've bought a bunch of tools based on his reviews and none have failed me! One of the most useful channels on TH-cam bar none!
I have a lot of respect for channels that test products like this. This is great, you basically just gave me a free ticket to skip years of experience buying and trying different burrs to compare. Thanks so much, keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
A great video project farm
Having experience in burrs helps and you hit the nail on the head for these tests. I am in market for a set and I will look at the made in USA sets again before making a purchase
You never cease to amaze me with the contraptions you come up with to test these tools or equipment. Just seeing your contraptions you use are just as entertaining as seeing how well the tools perform? I definitely trust your testing and opinions over anyone else anywhere and I often buy items off the results you shown in your testing videos! Your appreciated probably more then you’ll ever know by everyone watching your testing! In the long run your saving people a lot of money and frustration showing which tools are better and which ones aren’t worth buying in the first place! Thanks for everything you do!
Thanks so much! That really means a lot to me!
I would have thought the single direction cut on the cle-line would have made it perform poorly, but I think they're onto something there. Very interesting. Great test as always.
We use them on aluminum. Extremely aggressive and can chew through a terrifying amount of aluminum in a few seconds. Doesn’t gal quite as quick, either
@@justinmartin8887 oh man, you ain't lying. With their performance on steel I bet they chew right through aluminum like it's not even there.
@@justinmartin8887 I already thought that this tool would be great for aluminium, thanks for confirming.
I guess that design is stronger and has fewer "holes" in the pattern. I'm also guessing it's less expensive to make as well.
Thanks!
Perfect! I also use these a lot, so looking forward to this! Thanks again and keep up the EXCELLENT work!
Thank you very much!
This channel is critical for “know before you buy”. Thank You so much for your patience and hard work!
I appreciate that!
This was a useful test and review for me as a metal fabricator. Thank you for your effort and time to provide this data. I was hoping my favorite brand of burrs would have been tested, which is Pferd brand. I've been very satisfied with all Pferd tools and accessories.
Thank you!
Thanks for your recommendation. The other brands are currently sold out!
Doesn’t apply to me as a carpenter but damn I love watching your videos and they’re always the highlight of my Sunday
Thank you very much!
I work in a office and have two left hands.
But still love these video's ;)
Carbide burrs can rip through wood. But you're probably better off using a cheap rotary rasp. Although the rasp finish is rougher than the finish a burr leaves. The rotary rasp is like a rasp and the burr is like a file. You're probably going to have to finish with sandpaper anyways. A straight conical rotary rasp can be just the thing for weird wood shaping. I've never found a use for any of the other profiles.
Heavy cut Aluminum burrs will chew through wood at a pretty quick pace...
I'm a millwork installer/finishing carpenter and the die grinder is a tool that I never knew I needed to get me out of some pickles.
You never fail to conduct well-thought-out tests, great reviews and unbiased results. Thanks again for a great video PF.
Thank you!
Thanks!
I looked but did not see an evaluation of rotary tools by you. Please consider one, or point me to one I missed. Thank you for all you do!
Thanks for the suggestion. Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!
always giving unbiased testing. love what you do.
Thank you very much!
I'm 42 and quite the jack of all trades. But watching this channel makes me realize how stupid I really am, because you sir are a think tank kind of mastermind. I'm in awe of how much knowledge you possess and thank you so much for not only being so thorough and helpful to all of us seeking further education, but keeping it real and not getting bought out like a lot of these other channels. Cheers!
Thanks and you are welcome! Don't underestimate yourself! Being a jack of all trades is a commendable talent!
@@ProjectFarm You are too kind sir. My sincere appreciation again.
Great review, and timely too. I'm finally ready to replace my Snap-on set purchased approx. 40 years ago. I always ran them at the proper speed and pressure which is why they lasted so long. Thank you Project Farm!
Glad I could help!
I've got the 4 piece snap on set myself. 20 years so far, and haven't had one that needed replaced yet. Either from wearing out, or "walking away"
It would be interesting to know what company made those Snap-on cutters 40 years ago. I have a bunch of older Snap-on and the quality is exceptional.
Thanks, wery informative and interesting. I’m amazed by the effort going in to your tests.
Thanks so much! Thanks for your support to the channel!
Thank you for staying true to yourself. Thank you for not uploading clickbait titles or falsifying information. Thank you for making every test as Fair as possible within reason but keeping it consumer-friendly and idiot approved LOL! Pretty much anyone can watch your videos and know which product is going to do the best for them! Love it and keep up the good work
They may also gain some knowledge of what a tool can do and be used for. You learn something every day
Thanks so much!
Thank You again for your testing. So many of the tools, oils and other items in my shed are there simply because I was able to see tests that proved their durability and usefulness.
Carbide burrs certainly are useful in ones shop. I used to blend ports for performance engines and found my choices for superior burrs. While I no longer offer that service, I still use burrs to fit parts better and might do porting and polishing for my own engines.
Simply put: Another excellent choice for a subject and excellent testing!
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I rely on your testing and processes to help me spend what limited resources I have to get tools I need for tasks that come up. With resources being tight after COVID it has been even more necessary. thank you for all the good you do!
Thank you for the feedback!
I am always impressed by the attention to detail you apply to your tests! You take into account ALL the variables that could affect the results. Bravo!
Thanks!
I look forward to Sunday with P.F.
Thanks for the dedication you give to each project. ✌️
I’ve ported a lot of heads and intakes along with cleaning up castings in valve bodies and transmission cases etc. I’ve ALWAYS learned you get what you pay for with burr bits. Great review as always.
Thanks!
LET'S GO 🏁
I have the Astro Pneumatic 1/4" burr set and the 1/8" Yufutol set...honestly I can't complain they're both really good
Great feedback on the Astro Pneumatic brand!
There is only one sponsor I have seen you take: your supporters and subscribers! I applaud you for the honest and thorough testing. Thank you for all that you do!
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@@ExploringCabinsandMines They're one group. Dave and Busters isn't two companies.
@@Redrickson1 supporters AND Subscribers = added to; plus: = and.
@@ExploringCabinsandMines 🤣 Sure man. They all support him. Lol.
@@Redrickson1 👍🏻
What rotary tool would you recommend? Or is a die grinder better? A video on rotary tools would be appreciated, then I can finally upgrade :)
Thanks for the video idea.
A die grinder is gonna be the best for power and speed. Air powered has always been king but electric seems to have caught up just fine so either is fine to me. Just remember some tools like drills aren't made for side loads. You can use them but you won't get good results in comparison.
Well, if you're using rotary burrs, a die grinder works rather well. The DeWalt rotary tool he used works well too if you need better control than what a die grinder allows. For small projects, dremel and ryobi actually make decent rotary tools.
Most 'rotary tools' are going to be more like a Dremel only chuck small 1/8" shaft tools. For burr bits and most other 1/4" accessories you'll want a die grinder. This will get you the 20k RPM speeds the bits are designed for. Astro has a decent pneumatic set with a straight and right angled one bundled together. The 'chief' brand HF ones are okay too. Many other brands to choose from for pneumatic, those are two I have experience with and would buy again. For battery powered, the M12 is king. For the corded electric the Bosch is nice. I like using 2" sanding discs and wire cups in my right angle and use my straight die grinder for burr bits and cutoff discs.
Any wood router, the trick is to find one with little runout.
I love this channel! FInally a PROPER test channel. So much time goes into making these videos. THANK YOU GOOD SIR FOR DOING THE LEGWORK. All of us benefit from your hard work. Thank you again for sorting out the bad from the.good.
You dear sir make our world a better place to live in.
Thanks and you are welcome!
I've only ever use mini versions of these that fit in a Dremel type rotary tool. Cool to see what quality bigger versions will do. I was rooting for the Kodiak as I bought an 1/8th inch carbide end mill from them years ago as a better router bit for my Dremel and it performed really well.
Thank you!
So depending on what material you are working on you can get the rotozip bit that are normally for cutting thru drywall and other stuff and use them in the dremel and they work pretty well as long as its not metal. They also have some tile cutting bits and grout removing bits that are basically carbide burrs anyway and those work great for pretty much anything you need, Just have to make sure its the right size it get the dremek collet chuck attachment. but they work great and can sometimes be cheaper than the dremel bits or other alternatives
dremels have the R.P.M. to make good use of some of these bits probably need them a little smaller though. i have use these in a pneumatic die grinder for cutting through spot welds in ford strut towers to be able to adjust camber and caster in a wheel alignment...
I have been using American-made Atrax 1/8" shank carbide bits, purchased over 35 years ago when I was a car stereo installer, in my Dremel tool. They're slightly chipped and beat up after years of use and abuse but they still work! The company was founded by ex Pratt and Whitney tool and die makers, and they still make their products in the USA today. My bits weren't cheap when I bought them, and they're quite expensive nowadays, but I have gotten more than my money's worth out of them. I would love to see Project Farm do a review of various 1/8" shank bits for Dremel tools and other similar miniature rotary die grinders.
@@connorjohnson4402, I did try the Dremel brand ceramic tile cutting bits (diamond) when I needed to trim away some tile from around an electrical box when we redid our kitchen, but they didn't work well at all for me.
Project farm is the first and best address for tests and finding the best. Thanks from Ahrtal in Germany
I would love to see you testing "ceramic coatings" for engines. The ones you put in the oil before and after oil change. RVS and Resurs Total are atleast two companies that I know off. I would love to see if they actually does reduce friction and helps the engine or the gearbox etc. (There is many products for different applications with those oil additives)
Thanks for the video idea.
I recall he did one on motor anti-friction additives. I believe Motorkote came out on top, it's what I use regularly.
coating the cylinder walls with say, titanium nitride like on dril bits or even AlTiN
@@MoSportsUSA He's done quite a few videos with oil additives. The self-destructing Predator videos were fun to watch. I believe Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer won that series of tests.
One of very few tests that I've seen where the more expensive brands have the edge over competitors.
Kind of strange to see it when it comes to burr bits though. You'd think price-to-performance would show up in more substantial tooling but here we are.
Thanks for sharing.
Yeah, a lot of times the less expensive tool is just as good, I think the difference here is metallurgy - the specific alloys and precise heat treatment. It's what makes the difference in high-end knives for instance.
@@oldbridgemaker2094
I agree totally. The cheap burrs could likely benefit from better heat treating but they just aren't made from as good a steel. That would be an interesting thing to test though. Send off some cheap burrs for a proper heat treat. Might even find some other tools it's beneficial on. Maybe cheap impact sockets, files and whatnot.
@@1985cjjeeper There's no heat treatment with tungsten carbide. It's just grain size, binder/concrete, cutting geometry and coating.
Was gonna say, i didnt even know what a burr (tool) was before this, though i can see the possible applications now
i don't even need these tools or products 99 percent of the time, but love watching a true professional unbiased review process with pleasant commentary.
Thanks!
This is a review I didn't know I wanted, but definitely needed
Thank you very much!
Big thank you for excellent product testing and reviews.
As well as holding manufacturers to their claims.
Love the channel!
Thanks and you are welcome!
I have a set of Cle-Line and they cut great and fast, however the chips they produce go right thru my gloves and I spend days digging the chips out of my hands
Wow! Thanks for sharing.
Dont use any of these brands but have the same problem, gest chips in my gloves, shoes, hair and underpants. But at least I'm not breathing the shit like with a angle grinder. XD
This is by far my favourite TH-cam channel, your no nonsense testing always give me piece of mind before buying tools and equipment.
Many thanks for your efforts, and well done. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks and you are welcome!
Thanks for another great unbiased review!
Something I've often noticed is that the import and Chinese products are often a lot cheaper, and worse than their US made counterparts at higher price.
This might be difficult to do, but I would like to see a comparison of some products at similar price points with different origin.
Is a $100 German product better/worse/equal to a Chinese or US made one?
Great point!
Guaranteed that German or Swiss made products are going to be superior to Chinese or US made ones.
Thank you Todd for all your amazing tool reviews! I really appreciate your dedication to accurate testing. I just purchased a set of Jestuos carbide burrs after watching your latest video. Please keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
Despite what one manufacturer may say, these are great for DIY dentistry. I have successfully ground down all my teeth and no longer have to deal with the inconvenience of brushing or the excruciating pain of accidentally biting my tongue.
I bit my tongue a couple of times. Hurts. Sounds like a great idea.
Lol, Thank you!
I’ve bit my tongue and my cheek before. Might have to pick up a set of these…
This guy has helped me make several educated tool choices and when people ask me about my selection I always refer them to this channel. For instance I bought into the Milwaukee M18 line for my battery powered tools because of the impact driver and multitool videos
Glad I was able to help! Thanks for sharing.
You are relentless with these comparisons, keep it up PF 👌👌
Thanks, will do!
Todd, I watch every video you put out very intently, although I'll probably only need less that 10% of what you review...that is how enjoyable your reviews are. But I will admit...as much as I pay attention, that magic bit at 5:31 made me jump a bit! You never fail to entertain as well as educate.
Thanks so much!
"We're gonna test that" has to be the most innocuous catchphrase that I've ever enjoyed this much... Just goes to show what great content thorough and honest reviews make.
Thanks!
My personal opinion is that long term wear is more important than saving a few seconds. These tests put a lot more stress on the tools than I do. A lighter touch keeps tools in excellent shape.
Thanks for the feedback.!
and w these metal cutting burrs, it seems that its almost more productive at removing material with LESS pressure applied from user.... like you cant just turn em on n set them on the metal to bore out, as it will get all choppy n bounce up n around. but juuust enough pressure to ensure the tool won't go bouncing outta ur hands is all that seems to be needed, i feel like too much pressure causes it to dig in too deep the be avle to carve and eject the metal shavings out fast enough to keep up w its rotation.. but lighter touch lets it just glide across the metal and itll sink into it before you realize its even happening!!!
I use these a lot to cut out steel, sometimes to make 16-50 mm holes in 1 1/2" steel, when you do that you cannot have 'a lighter touch' or you will be there all week.
It sucks but jobs that call for the die grinder are not ideal, thats where your first options wouldn't fit.
@@elliotkane4443 what's your line of work? There are better tools to do what you've described than a carbide Burr. Oxyfuel, plasma cutter, magdrill. Unless you're just dressing a hole to size, that sounds like a lot of work.
@@himynameisjeff Boilermaker/Ironworker on this 1, We're not allowed to use oxy/plasma and I use my die grinder where the mag drill won't fit.
I could weld on a plate for the mag drill but it's just not an efficient use of time.
Nice to see so many USA made products!
Yes, thank you!
The difference sure showed in these tests.
I used to know a machine shop that made carbide tools. Man they were into their ways bellows. Carbide and abrasive grit can tear machine tools up.
@@appalachiangunman9589 I think it's just the fact that US manufacrurers has had experience with making alloys, so they know what they are doing.
It isn't really just China, Japanese burrs are pretty shit too, US really is the best for tools, the quality is unmatched.
@@razi_man they just suck at making cars
For the bolt cutting and Allen Wrench cutting tests, it looks like the deciding factor is how fast the bit can heat the metal up to the point that it loses temper and becomes soft enough to chew through.
I only have one bit, the oval shaped one. I can grind into metal till they are smoking red and then put my finger on the bit; it is still room temperature. Titanium Carbide is such an unbelievable material.
Its basically abrasive spot annealing. Its definitely not the same as properly cutting, but he also isn't using an industrial mill....
Been watching your channel sporadically throughout the years, mostly just when I’m looking for specific tool showdowns. In my time with this channel, I’ve never experienced clickbait, brand loyalty, or anything outside of plainly, and fairly, testing tools and products. Thank you for having remained consistent with your integrity.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Love your videos!! Just introduced your channel to my grandfather lol much love from Kentucky!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you for such great and consistent content! Every week this is one of the highlights of my weekend. You've sorta become the Myhtbusters of tools, cant wait for more content. My only suggestion is that you maybe do more revisits of previous videos with additional tool options, or when new tools are released by some manufacturers. Thanks!
Thank you for the feedback!
I really do appreciate the time/effort/cost/thinking that you devote your time to when creating these videos!
Thanks!
I just love these tests! I’m actually considering getting a set of these. I do love a good set of tools. Thanks for all you do and keep up the amazing work.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Great review. For me, only having to buy a tool once instead of 5-6 times over my lifetime is much better. Especially when those tools will outlive me and possibly become heirloom tools. I'll be getting a set of either the Cle-Line or Grober thanks to your review.
Thank you!
I'd buy a cheaper set (probably the Kodiak), then replace them as they wear out with higher-quality single burs (I like Pferd the best, but I've had good luck with Cle-Line too). You'll find a "favorite" shape for your work, and you'll only grab the other ones when you have a special need. Be careful with the ball burs, they cut a lot faster than you expect them to.
The single cut cle-line is really a great choice, it's what I use on hardened steels that a belt grinder can't get to.
Sounds great till you spin out and the burr catches hard. Doesn't matter how much you paid then. I like the other posters thinking. Get a cheap set and see what you use, and what you break. Then buy accordingly. Sometimes you buy the one good one. Like my 3 foot long half inch Harbor Freight breaker bar. Broke one so easy at first I thought I'd mounted the socket funny. Got another one and it has turned out to be a beast that has had a 5 foot pipe put on it more than a few times.
@@1985cjjeeper And sometimes using a trash bit is what causes the problem to begin with. When you're talking about craftsmanship and developing a skillset with tools, you're teaching yourself bad habits if you use tools that aren't going to do the job right. Case in point, you buy a set of cheap burrs and end up using way too much pressure to perform a certain task, and you end up overheating the bit or losing control of it...so you go out and buy a good set and destroy them too because you default to using far more pressure than the bit needs. Had you started with a good set, that learned behavior wouldn't exist.
I don’t think WE say thank you enough, you are providing incredibly valuable information to the hard working public. You and AvE are incredible people and I personally can not put a value on your work. Thank you.
You are so welcome!
Great channel! Keep up the good work! Found you while confused at the store faced with a wall of penetrating oils to deal with stuck nuts on my rear shock absorbers. While Seafoam did a great job taking the rusty nuts out, the nozzle easily broke when the can took a tumble. Wd40 has a tougher design.
Great feedback. Thank you
Did anyone else replayed the part around 5:30 where the bit flew back into the box to see if they hadn't lost their mind?
lol. I had some fun with that one!
This was a fantastic test, definitely one of my favourites.
I would use them more often but the chips are nasty and I get so many steel splinters
Thanks for sharing.
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Cut n puncture rated gloves
I trust project farm more than the manufacturing company
Thank you very much!
Of course. The manufacturers have huge incentive to exaggerate and lie.
I don't think I'm alone in saying that this is one of the best channels for informative testing and reviewing and it's incredibly important that we can keep this channel independent and free from corporate biased content, which hopefully will have an added benefit of knowing that they can't just lie to us through marketing and they'll have to start making quality products
Thanks!
Always awesome videos! Would love to see you test jeans. Could test rip resistance, cut resistance and wear resistance (my idea would be to use a cut out piece like sand paper to see how long it last before wear through)
Thank you for the video idea!
Just remember, sometimes you are carving up aluminum and do not want to eat the material off very quickly....so knowing which set of burrs doesn't cut fast is also helpful.
Great point!
tool speed comes into play here as well. The bite can be viscous.
speed & pressure.. like drilling steel or stainless..
Seeing which ones gum up the least on aluminum would also be useful.
@@F0XD1E as you probably know a slower speed helps.
Great stuff, as always. You could measure wear less subjectively than the Project Farm Scale. What if you weighed the burrs before and after a test? You'd be measuring the amount of burr lost to wear.
Great suggestion!! Thank you
I like the idea of a less subjective measurement but I am not sure a scale will be sensitive enough to measure that small of a change.
My suggestion would be to use a displacement test. Drop the object in a graduated cylinder filled with water or oil and measure the change in height of the liquid. The narrower the cylinder the more dramatic the change will appear. It could also make for a good visual comparison for the video.
You really think a displacement scale would showcase that small of a change in volume on those bits, really?
Best test for wear is to do a second run and note the drop in performance. My 2 cents…
@@deltalima6703 Yeah, the difference in time between the first and second pass should give an accurate representation of how much wear it has and an idea of how long it would last.
I love your tests as they keep folks from expecting too much when working with tight budgets..
Any chance of buying the used tools after you have tested them? I'm very interested if that is possible. Thanks and let me know.
Again, thanks for all you do for us#
It seems to me, at least at my price/performance taste, that the Kodiak and Jestuous are the clear leaders here for bang per buck.
I'd probably go with the kodiaks if I was using them often, and the Jestuous for cheap ones.
we need an endurance test for that
if the champion lasts 5 times as long as the its competition because of the TN coating its clearly the
...champion
sorry 😂
Cleline is the best hands down and best bang for the buck.
@@TheRolemodel1337 lmao 🤣 for then price over 300$ it has to last over 8 times as long
Awesome video as always. If I could make a suggestion: for wear tests on some items you may be able to weigh them after. While it wouldn't give a clear picture on how the tool wears, it could give a subjective idea of how much a tool wears down between tests.
I think he'd need a crazy accurate scientific style scale. The material loss on a tool like this is miniscule.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@@volvo09 But also non-zero, meaning it can be measured.
@The Best Western Clean the tool off...?
5:31 Very impressive feature of tool bit attaching automatically to it's case when not in use! Some kind of strong magnet is used perhaps? lol
That's what happens if you play the film backwards.
you were genius for doing this channel !! Looks like it's panning out for you with the experience you'll learning and the money coming in AND you really do provide a good service for your viewers :)
Thanks!
Sometimes the cheap stuff has surprised us, but definitely not this time. I can't decided between the Kodiak and Grobet. 40% premium for Grobet that lost its cutting consistency in the last test. As always thanks for the thorough testing.
You are welcome!
It looked to me like the Grobet did very well except for the last test which may be better served by using a different tool for that application. I would rather have 3 sets of the Jestuous than 1 set of the Grobet EXCEPT for the fact that the Jestuous is made in China. I will always purchase USA over China no matter what the cost unless I just can't get a USA tool that will do the job.
Doesn't really matter as both are currently out of stock at the moment.
I agree, I think that the Grobet's overall performance shouldn't be discounted just because of its last-place showing in the final tip-plunge test. Just looking at performance in the first two, it performs second highest in average. Cle-Line is highest, and if you buy from Global Industrial the price per unit is almost the same as Grobet at ~$18. Kodiak is half the price, performs essentially as well, and only places in 4th for subjective wear (after Grobet and Cle-Line tied second, Champion first).
The company that made the "champion" really did mean it. Usually when you see a brand with a "strong name" like champion, best, ultra. You end up with something that is not great.
*I'm looking at you Master Lock*
Thanks for the feedback.
Single cut takes a bigger bite, but not as smooth running as a double cut. Some years back I ran a tool room in a machine shop. Spent many hours cleaning up freshly milled parts. The TiN coating can be useful, but only if it is done over a really good hard well machined base metal. You'll notice that cheap soft drill bits that have a TiN coating don't do anything for you, but a carbide drill bit with TiN coating will perform great and last a long time in the shop. Love your real world reviews! Thank you! You have helped me many times to buy good replacement tools!
I love tests like this! I'm buying a pack for wood sculpting, based on this I'll try the Yufutol as wood should wear the teeth significantly less
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
These are meant mostly for metal, the ones designed for wood are a bit different looking
Hey project farm, you should do something like a supermarket coffee comparision for april fools next year! Do crazy things like "wich coffee cools the best" and stuff
Thank you for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm And thank YOU for the amazing videos.
I understand this is a test but you’re essentially trying to mill with a burr bit. This is a light finishing tool! Git you some endmills if you need heavy cuts!
-A machinist.
Nice work. I don't use burrs often enough to go for the top shelf, but also tend to pass up 'too good to be true' lest they leave me dry when I'm in a bind. Videos like this give folk like me the no nonsense to make good decisions. Thanks for your work.
Thanks and you are welcome!
what I'm getting out of this test is the $40 Jestuous is constantly right beside the leaders, and the price to performance has got to be right up there.
Edit: perhaps price to performance could be a factor?
This one was especially useful for me because im about to port a set of 454 heads. 😀 But I'm not so sure that I wanna pay $300+ for a set of burrs 🤑 heck I was worried the die grinder was gonna be what hits me in the wallet!
Thanks for the feedback.
I did most of the work with flap wheels when I ported my gen 6 454 heads. I just unshrouded the exhaust valves in the chamber and smoothed the exhaust valve guide. I could have gone faster with burs but I didn't plan to take out a ton of material since it's just a mild street setup and I'm not porting heads everyday. Good luck with your build!
@@c0c0asauce flap wheels are great for cleaning ports
notification squad, Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥
You’re first! Hope you enjoy the video!
I think it’s so awesome that you do these tests! Ive been watch your videos for some time now and wanted to say thanks. It’s helped me out as it has others. I’ve always wanted to do this kind of testing to find out myself and would love to be there right with you doing these experiments. I looks fun but I know you have so much time and work into these let alone the video editing so thank you for your time and keeping the content to the point, unbiased, and helpful to pros and homeowners.
Thanks and you are welcome!
I laughed a little when you mentioned the "not for medical or dental use" I'm sure people are imagining a dentist grinding on your teeth with these. I worked in the dental and orthodontic field for about 13 years and we used Grobet burs exclusively but it was for model prep. Cutting and trimming plaster and dental stone and acrylic. If you ever had a retainer or something like that it was probably cut and shaped with a bur like these.
When they hit the point of not working well on the dental stone and we were going to trash them I would take them home and use them in the garage on steel and they still cut like a dream.
Thanks for the feedback.
Please test lead pellets! Of all these brands and shapes, prices differences, i really wonder what's the actual difference in accuracy, penetration and velocity for the price range!
Thanks man love your channel so much
lets get this started...
Thank you and hope you enjoy the video!
Again, a most thorough bit of testing. I can't thank you enough, Project Farm. You are an American jewel that shines brightly.
Thank you for the positive feedback!
It is always so hilariously funny how most of the chinese tools, with very few exceptions, are so much cheaper than "made in " even with all the shipping they go through.
If ________ country paid there workers what China pays there worker, then probably that country could be just as cheap. That also goes for the raw materials. When it comes to precision tools, most are made in other countries other then China.
Its also cheaper to ship something overseas then it is across land.
“Not for medical or dental use” *Who is that disclaimer for*
Dummies haha. They do make burrs for dental use of course, just not these