I absolutely love the fact that Jimmy took the 5 grand that Chuck left him and spent it all on burner phones for his side business. Doing exactly what Chuck would’ve hated.
the sadest thing is that $5k is literally just the minimum $ someone needs to be given in a will to prevent them from contesting it. Jimmy def knows this too.
That “fuck you, Jimmy” got a massive unexpected laugh from me, They have a weird ass relationship, but in a way they care about each other. It’s hilarious
@Tuscan417 Ya I think it's more that both Howard and Jimmy have seen the ugly side of Chuck and both are betrayed by a man they both considered as a mentor and role model. Remember much of Jimmy's dislike towards Howard was rooted in the assumption that it was Howard that tried to keep Jimmy out of HHM, which we later learn was Chuck's doing
Howard´s character development throughout the show is so interesting. At first you hate him, then you don´t care about him, then you sort of like him. He´s like a robot, a man from a magazine and yet there´s something so human about him. Both dick and a good guy. It´s just interesting to me.
He's a really interesting character because he's the only top billed actor on the cast whose character's home life we don't see. We see scenes of Jimmy, Kim, Mike, Gus, Nacho etc, but Howard is always a feature of other people's stories. Makes it harder to judge what he's been up to
Christopher Marlowe The first season it's set up to look like he's holding Jimmy back from his full potential, when really it's his brother. This current season he's not necessarily an antagonist, but he does act like a sort of 'enemy' from Jimmy's perspective.
He's mad at Howard because of his "real" reaction to Chuck's death. Chuck was Howard's very dear friend and his death, as well as the fallout of Jimmy's insurance meddling, tore him apart. In contrast Jimmy's last interaction with Chuck was Chuck saying he never cared about Jimmy which hurt Jimmy more than the actual death. So he sees all these people who Chuck actually respected and cared for upset by his death and Jimmy doesn't "get to do" that because of his relationship with Chuck when he really has more "right" than anyone. He's once again been left as the outsider and he hates that. Howard is an easy target for him. This carries into S5 where Howard has confronted his grief and grown as a person while Jimmy has hardly acknowledged he's in pain at all. Jimmy resents this.
I think it's another example of Jimmy not thinking through the consequences of his actions. He set out to get revenge on Chuck, but now he realizes he's also endangered the firm, and he's trying to undo it. Like when he undid the hatred for that woman in the retirement home.
"There you go! Use that." Love that line. It shows that Jimmy was in fact trying to get Howard mad as a way to help him. Sadness accomplishes nothing. Anger really gets shit done.
That was Jimmy’s intention, and yes anger does get stuff done, as Jimmy proves… But sadness and diving in through ones pain can make a person come out the other side better for it, which Howard understands, but Jimmy never understood it until the end
@@OwnYourBaldSpot I'd say he still doesn't understand between the beggining of bb and ending of better call saul, maybe he understands after breaking bad
I really hope these guys end up friends, having a beer. Not gonna happen. But I hope. I started of hating Howard. Now I just adore him. Terrific writing.
@@obiwon76 Why is it any worse to say it on the internet as opposed to real life? What you said is precisely the thing that bothers me about your mentality: I don't need to have a need to spell it out. It's just a word. Words are nothing to be afraid of. Grow a pair for fuck's fake.
generic username first of all, I didn’t say it. It’s from the show. Second, my point was it was clearly said in the show so what’s the point of repeating it here. U clearly understand what F bomb means don’t you? Your issue is so much bigger than this. You debating this is just the tip of it, I’m sure there are 200 other things you unnecessarily try to argue without any meaning at all.
umm no he always hated howard since the start. this is the first time he wants howard to better himself. IF he didnt give a shit about him he would of just left after getting his check
@@nanoviolence7681 I don't think he hated Howard by this point. Jimmy's a bit borderline in how he feels about people, so his feelings toward Howard are never stable. One thing that is hinted at very early on, and very clear as the series goes forward is that Howard's seemingly negative feelings toward Jimmy are all an act resulting from a mix of his own professionalism and loyalty to Chuck.
@@SandeepSingh-sy6nx Nope. This was in season 1, before Jimmy realised it was Chuck who was actually acting against him in HHM all this time. In the last episode of the season Jimmy apologised to Howard for the insults. Later Howard didn't discourage Davis & Main from hiring Jimmy, you can even see him complimenting Jimmy while talking to Clifford Main. It was quite clear that Howard's actions against Jimmy up to this point were only out of loyalty to Chuck. In season 2 they didn't really care about one another. It was only in season 3 when Howard heard Chuck's tape that they really became hostile again.
Jimmy and Howard have the weirdest and most underrated dynamic in this show imo. Both manipulated and hurt by the same man they looked up to, they're never able to be friends and yet both kinda have eachother's back in moments of need, they act like perfect foils for one another too. These dudes are in their early fifties and yet their petty feud resembles something you'd expect from immature teenagers. Never a dull moment when they share a scene together Edit: F 😭
Yeah I really enjoyed their interactions as well, a shame we won't be getting more now, I really wanted some big lawyer showdown but I guess that already happened with Chuck and they don't wanna do anything repetitive Hope we get some flashbacks at least
Jimmy is in his early fifties ? I know that Bob Odenkirk was about 55 when the show started but it still kinda makes sense that he would play a man in his mid thirties due to the BB universe timeline.
I like how after this scene, we see Howard later on talking about how the firm is doing better than ever, and even offers Jimmy a job working there. I like to think that Jimmy's tough love was the push Howard needed to get him back on track to becoming a success.
That’s what I was thinking also cuz jimmy has been knocked down by far worse with so few resources and help but he keeps on fighting. And he has been motivated by proving people wrong and that is what he does Howard here
I don’t see it that way at all. I see jimmy negating his feelings by belittling Howard’s. And when Howard does pull the firm back together jimmy is secretly resentful. This is basically why jimmy goes on a campaign of terror against Howard. Howard was nice enough to offer jimmy a job but it only made jimmy angrier because jimmy wanted to distance himself from his brother in every way at this point. It’s self sabotage to an art form.
The real magic is what Howard didn’t say. Following “Fuck you, Jimmy” is the implicit “I’m an amazing lawyer.” It’s like the feeling of “no one shit talks my country but me.” Howard was surrounded by yes men. He needed someone to reignite him. He was probably thinking to himself over and over again that he was a shitty lawyer. When Jimmy says it, it reminded him that he was just in a bad situation. The confident Howard we see in 607 saying he’ll overcome anything and land on his feet is the direct result of this scene.
I like how Jimmy was still emotionally attached enough to HHM here that he wanted to rouse Howard out of his depression by getting him angry and awake. Maybe deep down Jimmy didn't want to see his brother's firm go down the tubes.
I laughed so hard at this scene, Jimmy was actually lighting that fire inside of howard ... exactly what he needed to hear ... that last bit where Howard looks at him with complete shock as he tells him he's a shitty lawyer but a good sales man and the follow up "Fuck you Jimmy" ... Perfect
It's funny because early in the series Howard is kind of tailored to be perceived as a villain and an antagonistic character. There is a line in the 1st or 2nd series where Howard says something to Jimmy like "It's not always about the money, it's about what's in your heart" and the impression one gets at the time given how Howard carries himself and how he is portrayed is that he is being smarmy and mocking Jimmy. As we learn more about Howard and his character is fleshed out as a decent, if pompous individual, I think back to that line and believe that he probably meant every word. I haven't seen season 5 yet though so who knows.
It’s not “implied” it was outright stated that chuck told Howard not to bring jimmy onto the team cuz Chuck hates the idea of slippin jimmy becoming a lawyer at his firm
Season 4 might very well go down as my personal favorite season. The show took a breather after season 3 and before season 5. It's solid and came out during a hard time I was going through. This show is what people would refer to as "MY SHIT!"
Season 4 is my favorite as well. I think it's the best balance between the levity of the earlier seasons and the darkness of the later ones. Also the most perfect distillation of Better Call Saul's "hangout" vibe, what with Jimmy's year off and Mike's lab construction project. I also think the characters were at their juciest and most complex here. I love the subversive way the writers had Jimmy reacting to Chuck's death, compartmentalizing, off-loading his guilt, doing all sorts of weird, contradictory things, like the character was operating on emotions that not even he understood, all building up to that brilliant, brilliant final episode where he decides to go full time with Saul Goodman.
From my opinion, if Chuck was not there to orchestrate Howard from behind to down play Jimmy, these two would be a very good friend, Howard would totally support Jimmy and see Jimmy’s potential, and Jimmy wouldn’t spent years hating Howard.
I really love how this show has the confidence to leave things unsaid. At this point in the show, it's not really clear what Jimmy thinks of Chuck but you can tell what he says to Howard is parroting his brother. Does Jimmy say this to genuinely help Howard? Does he feel guilty Chuck isn't around and tries to replicate what he would say to make up for it? Or is it just another opportunity for Jimmy to be a performer and impersonate someone he's not? This whole season had so much uncertainty. Really love what the show has become.
I strongly disagree. Chuck would never say something like this to Howard and definitely not in that manner. He never cared about how people feel, all he cared about were impressions. He never said the things people needed to hear at the moment. If Chuck was around and healthy (both mentally and physically) at this point, he´d take full cotrol over the firm and sideline Howard. Jimmy is different. Deep down, he´s a good guy who feels guilt and has conscience. That´s why when he sees Howard so low, he remember the good Howard did for him and tries to get him back on his feet.
@@ArthurAugustyn lmao projecting much? You are obviously the one who understands nothing about the show as all you do in your comment as ask a bunch of dumb questions while saying nothing of substance. There’s no way in hell Jimmy would parrot Chuck at this point in the show, he very clearly wants to rid himself of everything the name McGill stands for. He simply tells Howard exactly what he thinks and also exactly what Howard needed to hear (something Chuck never would do and was never even able to do). As his choice of words shows, he definitely doesn’t see Howard as a friend but he has at least enough respect for him to bring him to salvage what’s left of the firm. As the guy above said, he took a quick moment to remember what good Howard did for him. The only thing that’s truly left unanswered is whether he only does it solely out of good will for Howard or whether he also wants to save something that Chuck helped build. Again, you’re the dumbass.
while jimmy does come across as insensitive in this scene since he didnt allow chuck's passing to affect him as greatly, I do like how it actually really did help Howard here lol
Howard never really did anything to merit Jimmy's ire. Jimmy displaced all of his anger for Chuck into Howard, he's the physical embodiment of what Jimmy thought he was entitled to, but was never built to be like.
You're conveniently forgetting the scene where Jimmy wanted to settle and get his money from the sandpiper case, and Howard called him gollum for it along with other things No, it still doesn't justify what Jimmy did to Howard, but don't even think for a second that Howard is in any way fully innocent here
Howard was a straight up dick to Jimmy during Season 1, and in Season 2 he treated Kim badly due to Jimmy messing up at Davis and Maine. I realize Howard was actually being a dick to Jimmy on behalf of Chuck in Season 1, but he was still complicit, and honestly Howard had more control of HHM at that point (although due to Howard’s reverence for Chuck he sided with him). None of that justifies how Jimmy treated Howard in seasons 5 and especially 6, but I’m not surprised that Jimmy doesn’t think all that fondly of him. By the time Howard started trying to make amends with Jimmy, a lot of the decency that Jimmy had in him had eroded.
I really hope Howard plays a pivotal role in Season 6 to bring the series to a close. Howard is Jimmy’s link back to Chuck and would be a great way to tie the entire series together now considering Chuck has been dead for two seasons. Howard is a lot like Chuck’s ghost that still haunts Jimmy, and he needs to deal with that.
Jimmy was being a good friend to Howard here. It's what he needed to hear, it's too bad at his core Jimmy is an insecure, spiteful human being and Howard's honest leaps towards progression made him feel inferior
This scene also suggests how delusional Jimmy can be. He's beginning to project his own self-loathing and shame about his his brother's death onto Howard, and he's overly crediting himself with the referral of a client to HHM - which is only to service the will of a deceased woman.
Season 6 spoilers below: I really feel like this is the moment that helped turn Howard around. He is the lowest he has ever been and it's quite ironic that Jimmy was the push for Howard to turn his life around. Which makes events of season 6 all the more painful, because Howard got put down by the same guy that lifted him up.
SPOILERS Probably the nicest thing Jimmy ever did for Howard, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it played a large part in Howard offering Jimmy a job in Season 5. Too bad Jimmy was too bitter to accept it.
There's something outside all the components. More than the sum of its parts kinda thing. More than the writing, acting, pacing, camera work, lighting, production design. More than all of it. I just keep watching scenes from this show even though in so many ways a scene like this would be mundane, possibly even boring in any other context.
Not necessarily historical stuff (although that wouldn't fail to get eyes glued to the show) but more of him outside the office...his home life etc.They could definitely do something there...
@@rampageclover9788 would be cool to have a flashback scene with him and Slippin Jimmy, maybe when Chuck was tutoring him for the bar and they met or something like that. Just to see how a Howard at the bottom and Slippin Jimmy would interact
@@zekeiwa5837 Howard is still a professional, as a socially capable person and as a lawyer surrounded by witnesses he knows an argument wouldn't help anything - this is that yes or no answer he's been waiting around for. He's come out the other end of his crisis with this "namaste" thing going which tries to avoid confrontation, and he's smart enough (and a professional arguer) to know Jimmy isn't arguing *for* anything he's just ranting.
Such a great scene between such talented men. And it always raised an interesting question for me. Who is tougher? Jimmy who seemingly has no remorse even though he played a key part in his brother's demise OR Howard who takes all the blame and pulls through. Insane series.
Howard without a doubt, Jimmy has remorse, it's there all the time, he just projects it into everything else, like the time the bar almost didn't accept him where he projected onto Kim, or the whole lightning bolts speech. Howard got hit hard, but he didn't bottle up all those emotions and he didnt have any more baggage after some seasons
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I absolutely love the fact that Jimmy took the 5 grand that Chuck left him and spent it all on burner phones for his side business. Doing exactly what Chuck would’ve hated.
the sadest thing is that $5k is literally just the minimum $ someone needs to be given in a will to prevent them from contesting it. Jimmy def knows this too.
So he didn't pay off his Master Card?
He actually spent it on the pinatas and stuff didn't he? Like I'm sure he bought phones too, but wasn't the 'pressing need' the pinatas
If you listen carefully when he buys the phones he only gets 4Ks worth of phones a small detail that doesn’t really matter but eh
@@mrminkman952 oh damn, I don't remember that but if that's the case a nice touch :) thanks
That "fuck you Jimmy" was the first time ever that Howard delivered a line that was not utterly robotic.
Actually this is the 2nd, he did say “bullshit” to Chuck
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That “fuck you, Jimmy” got a massive unexpected laugh from me,
They have a weird ass relationship, but in a way they care about each other. It’s hilarious
@Tuscan417 Ya I think it's more that both Howard and Jimmy have seen the ugly side of Chuck and both are betrayed by a man they both considered as a mentor and role model. Remember much of Jimmy's dislike towards Howard was rooted in the assumption that it was Howard that tried to keep Jimmy out of HHM, which we later learn was Chuck's doing
I come from the future and i bear bad news....
@@Doofus1237 ah man that scene😭😭
@@Doofus1237 insane bruh
I’ve always thought of their relationship like the one between perry the platypus and dr dufenshmirtz…
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Funny thing is jimmy told him exactly what he needed to hear. Thats a true friend.
lmao
Ok Dr Deutschland Demon you edgy shluckluder.
He just told him some more of that this episode (S05E07
Jimmy is NOT Howard's friend. That is why he has no trouble telling him harsh truths.
@easy eevee there's only so much you can blame on mental illness, and chuck can't blame most of them on it
"Fuck you, Jimmy."
After 607, I'm feeling this more than anything.
Well, he doesnt feel anything anymore.
and 506
@@leecloth8460 There’s really no need to…
@@rainehernandez8345 He was, in fact, in the middle of something
@@leecloth8460 there is no need to…
Howard´s character development throughout the show is so interesting. At first you hate him, then you don´t care about him, then you sort of like him. He´s like a robot, a man from a magazine and yet there´s something so human about him. Both dick and a good guy. It´s just interesting to me.
He's a really interesting character because he's the only top billed actor on the cast whose character's home life we don't see. We see scenes of Jimmy, Kim, Mike, Gus, Nacho etc, but Howard is always a feature of other people's stories. Makes it harder to judge what he's been up to
Igor in Season 5 Howard is a good dude, he’s nice and understands why Jimmy is sad
Christopher Marlowe The first season it's set up to look like he's holding Jimmy back from his full potential, when really it's his brother.
This current season he's not necessarily an antagonist, but he does act like a sort of 'enemy' from Jimmy's perspective.
@Sasi Arsivi Must be thinking of a helluva plank of wood
You're just jealous of his hair
Here trying to understand why this lost to Game of Thrones for best drama
trueeeeee
@DoogieBowser shame. It was such a great show. Those 2 morons D and D have been ruining this series since season 4.
DoogieBowser haha hahah I agree a hundred percent brotha
Because game of thrones is the npc show flavor of the month lol
@DoogieBowser strong independent woman who burned 1000's of innocents lmao
I think Jimmy was irritated with Howard falling apart after “one little setback” as Jimmy put it. Jimmy’s whole life has been nothing but setbacks
He's mad at Howard because of his "real" reaction to Chuck's death. Chuck was Howard's very dear friend and his death, as well as the fallout of Jimmy's insurance meddling, tore him apart.
In contrast Jimmy's last interaction with Chuck was Chuck saying he never cared about Jimmy which hurt Jimmy more than the actual death. So he sees all these people who Chuck actually respected and cared for upset by his death and Jimmy doesn't "get to do" that because of his relationship with Chuck when he really has more "right" than anyone. He's once again been left as the outsider and he hates that. Howard is an easy target for him.
This carries into S5 where Howard has confronted his grief and grown as a person while Jimmy has hardly acknowledged he's in pain at all. Jimmy resents this.
@@toamatau8785 Amazing analysis
@@toamatau8785 He hates howard for being a teddy dog for chuck, never standing up to give justice to the oppressed
I think it's another example of Jimmy not thinking through the consequences of his actions.
He set out to get revenge on Chuck, but now he realizes he's also endangered the firm, and he's trying to undo it. Like when he undid the hatred for that woman in the retirement home.
"There you go! Use that." Love that line. It shows that Jimmy was in fact trying to get Howard mad as a way to help him. Sadness accomplishes nothing. Anger really gets shit done.
Said Hitler.
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@@ryantogo8359 In his bid for white genocide.
That was Jimmy’s intention, and yes anger does get stuff done, as Jimmy proves… But sadness and diving in through ones pain can make a person come out the other side better for it, which Howard understands, but Jimmy never understood it until the end
@@OwnYourBaldSpot I'd say he still doesn't understand between the beggining of bb and ending of better call saul, maybe he understands after breaking bad
I really hope these guys end up friends, having a beer. Not gonna happen. But I hope. I started of hating Howard. Now I just adore him. Terrific writing.
Wow.......you.hayed. Howard.of..the.bat
Learn grammar and stop using periods after every word
you never know now judging from 50 % off
TRIPPLE SIGHT333 lol, you mad.
In S5 howard asked jimmy to get a lunch with him, I hope he accepts :D
Jimmy just threw bowling balls at Howard's car!
"That and your hair, which let's face it, clock's tickin there too, so..."
Absolute savage lmao
unowen7591 It’s also projection as we can see that this season Jimmy is noticing and troubled by his hair loss.
did you notice what kim said in season 5 last episode about howard's hair 🤔🤔
@@Abdullah-xi8kz whatd she say? forgot
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive ah the classic 14 year old "hes projecting" interpretation
@@BeAsTMoDE528 Between the two men, who has the better hair?
The best part of this scene is the big F bomb by Howard.
obiwon76 well nah shit!
The mere existence of the term "F bomb" is pretty disappointing. Grown-ups who are afraid of words. What a concept.
generic username if you feel the need to spell it out on this platform you might have other issues.
@@obiwon76 Why is it any worse to say it on the internet as opposed to real life? What you said is precisely the thing that bothers me about your mentality: I don't need to have a need to spell it out. It's just a word. Words are nothing to be afraid of. Grow a pair for fuck's fake.
generic username first of all, I didn’t say it. It’s from the show. Second, my point was it was clearly said in the show so what’s the point of repeating it here. U clearly understand what F bomb means don’t you? Your issue is so much bigger than this. You debating this is just the tip of it, I’m sure there are 200 other things you unnecessarily try to argue without any meaning at all.
I can't imagine Jimmy being like this to Howard in season 1, he's changed a lot, he's more confident and willing to speak his mind.
umm no he always hated howard since the start. this is the first time he wants howard to better himself. IF he didnt give a shit about him he would of just left after getting his check
@@nanoviolence7681 I don't think he hated Howard by this point. Jimmy's a bit borderline in how he feels about people, so his feelings toward Howard are never stable.
One thing that is hinted at very early on, and very clear as the series goes forward is that Howard's seemingly negative feelings toward Jimmy are all an act resulting from a mix of his own professionalism and loyalty to Chuck.
I mean, he did call him a pigfucker.
He called Howard a pig fucker in like season 2, so I'd say he was always like this with Howard lol
@@SandeepSingh-sy6nx Nope. This was in season 1, before Jimmy realised it was Chuck who was actually acting against him in HHM all this time. In the last episode of the season Jimmy apologised to Howard for the insults.
Later Howard didn't discourage Davis & Main from hiring Jimmy, you can even see him complimenting Jimmy while talking to Clifford Main. It was quite clear that Howard's actions against Jimmy up to this point were only out of loyalty to Chuck.
In season 2 they didn't really care about one another. It was only in season 3 when Howard heard Chuck's tape that they really became hostile again.
Jimmy and Howard have the weirdest and most underrated dynamic in this show imo. Both manipulated and hurt by the same man they looked up to, they're never able to be friends and yet both kinda have eachother's back in moments of need, they act like perfect foils for one another too. These dudes are in their early fifties and yet their petty feud resembles something you'd expect from immature teenagers. Never a dull moment when they share a scene together
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Uhh
Never a dull moment indeed
Yeah I really enjoyed their interactions as well, a shame we won't be getting more now, I really wanted some big lawyer showdown but I guess that already happened with Chuck and they don't wanna do anything repetitive
Hope we get some flashbacks at least
''There's really no need...''
Jimmy is in his early fifties ? I know that Bob Odenkirk was about 55 when the show started but it still kinda makes sense that he would play a man in his mid thirties due to the BB universe timeline.
I like how after this scene, we see Howard later on talking about how the firm is doing better than ever, and even offers Jimmy a job working there. I like to think that Jimmy's tough love was the push Howard needed to get him back on track to becoming a success.
He even says he admired Jimmy because he is scrappy, makes things happen and speaks his mind.
That’s what I was thinking also cuz jimmy has been knocked down by far worse with so few resources and help but he keeps on fighting. And he has been motivated by proving people wrong and that is what he does Howard here
Making him land on his feet again then later on getting shot in the head
I don’t see it that way at all. I see jimmy negating his feelings by belittling Howard’s. And when Howard does pull the firm back together jimmy is secretly resentful. This is basically why jimmy goes on a campaign of terror against Howard.
Howard was nice enough to offer jimmy a job but it only made jimmy angrier because jimmy wanted to distance himself from his brother in every way at this point.
It’s self sabotage to an art form.
And so Howard went on to re-establish HHMs reputation by going on the streets and saying "Fuck you Jimmy" to everyone he met called Jimmy.
Ahahahahaaaa yeah he really used that
AND to everyone he met that wasn’t even called Jimmy
😂😂
This is the exact moment Gus became Marie
Cool Guy Love these types of comments
after Kuby lost it in the crawlspace, only Huell came out of it..
You're talking bollocks, this scene was the catalyst for mike's daughter-in-law becoming Brock
This is the moment Don Eladio became Hank's mineral collection.
absolutely chilling
“This place is all you got. That and your hair - and the clock is tickling there too”
That’s gotta hurt bad.
Especially since the man who helped build it who was a father figure/Mentor turned into a Monster who tried to destroy your entire life over Nothing.
Im tired of being tickled by clocks too man
Ironic since Gene is pretty much bald.
2:12 The face Howard makes when Jimmy calls him a shitty lawyer lmaoo
_"thefuckyousaytomeyoulittleshit?"_
He almost turned into an old woman!
Howard: and I took that personally
That slow turn tho
it's the same face Howard made when Jimmy said "That's your cross to bear"
I love the line at the end, because it about 40% sounds like “Thank you, Jimmy!”
Basically is "Thank you, Jimmy!" translated from rival into friend.
bravo vince?
The real magic is what Howard didn’t say.
Following “Fuck you, Jimmy” is the implicit “I’m an amazing lawyer.”
It’s like the feeling of “no one shit talks my country but me.” Howard was surrounded by yes men. He needed someone to reignite him. He was probably thinking to himself over and over again that he was a shitty lawyer. When Jimmy says it, it reminded him that he was just in a bad situation.
The confident Howard we see in 607 saying he’ll overcome anything and land on his feet is the direct result of this scene.
2:18 just perfect delivery 😂
I like how Jimmy was still emotionally attached enough to HHM here that he wanted to rouse Howard out of his depression by getting him angry and awake. Maybe deep down Jimmy didn't want to see his brother's firm go down the tubes.
Jimmy has lots of sympathy for little guy friends in the office that were in danger of losing their jobs
This felt a lot like my brother and I when we argue.
Who plays Jimmy and Howard?
Did he say fuck you to you
@@jasondyrkacz8270 Jimmy is played by Bob Odinkirk and Howard is played by Patrick Fabian.
@@abramsullivan7764 HAHAHAHHAHAH
@@abramsullivan7764 LOL
The best gift Jimmy ever gave to Howard...
"F*ck you Jimmy!"- one of the most genuine statements Howard has ever made.
Rest in peace, our prince in Hamlindigo blue 😭❤️
I'd imagine if his body was recovered, he'd be dressed in a hamlindigo blue suit and buried in a hamlindigo blue coffin
Hahaha I love this. It's Howard actually being human for once and not masking his emotions. You can feel the venom behind that 'fuck you' at 2:18.
I laughed so hard at this scene, Jimmy was actually lighting that fire inside of howard ... exactly what he needed to hear ... that last bit where Howard looks at him with complete shock as he tells him he's a shitty lawyer but a good sales man and the follow up "Fuck you Jimmy" ... Perfect
It's funny because early in the series Howard is kind of tailored to be perceived as a villain and an antagonistic character. There is a line in the 1st or 2nd series where Howard says something to Jimmy like "It's not always about the money, it's about what's in your heart" and the impression one gets at the time given how Howard carries himself and how he is portrayed is that he is being smarmy and mocking Jimmy.
As we learn more about Howard and his character is fleshed out as a decent, if pompous individual, I think back to that line and believe that he probably meant every word.
I haven't seen season 5 yet though so who knows.
Have fun with the Bowling Balls. You'll see...
“There ya go! Use that!” 😂
I still sincerely believe this was the nicest, friendliest interaction Jimmy and Howard had throughout the entire show
That "Fuck you Jimmy" is perfectly delivered I laughed so hard every time I hear it
Is this moment the reason why Howard now wants Jimmy on his team?
The only thing that stopped Howard before was Chuck
Not really, it's implied that Howard's had months of therapy and self reflection/spiritual awakenings between here and season 5
Its implied Howard always liked Jimmy and would have hired him had it not been for Chuck
It’s not “implied” it was outright stated that chuck told Howard not to bring jimmy onto the team cuz Chuck hates the idea of slippin jimmy becoming a lawyer at his firm
@@george5954 Namaste
Rip Howard :( You didn’t deserve that man
I forget how funny this scene is.
This hits different now
2:18
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Fuck you Jimmy
@@ecco8 thanks
FattyMcButterPants
Fuck you Jimmy
Thanks man
Well, at least we know Howard never lost his hair.
He lost his life though and his shoes
Well. A bit, yes.
@@l.pietrobon3925 That was certainly not the last thing to go through his mind
He probably lost his hair when it decomposed after he was buried...
2:17 is the most perfect f you I ever heard.
Season 4 might very well go down as my personal favorite season. The show took a breather after season 3 and before season 5. It's solid and came out during a hard time I was going through. This show is what people would refer to as "MY SHIT!"
Asked me during the pandemic
@@timothyha2854 say what say what!?!?!?!
Season 4 is my favorite as well. I think it's the best balance between the levity of the earlier seasons and the darkness of the later ones. Also the most perfect distillation of Better Call Saul's "hangout" vibe, what with Jimmy's year off and Mike's lab construction project. I also think the characters were at their juciest and most complex here. I love the subversive way the writers had Jimmy reacting to Chuck's death, compartmentalizing, off-loading his guilt, doing all sorts of weird, contradictory things, like the character was operating on emotions that not even he understood, all building up to that brilliant, brilliant final episode where he decides to go full time with Saul Goodman.
@@jeromychavez6121 saved me during 2020 lockdowns. Was a fantastic watch
@@baaaldur damn I never thought about season 4 that way. Thanks fam
“One little set back” that hits different now….
I always liked how Hamlin intentionally matched his (predominantly) purple neckties with the decor of his office.
From my opinion, if Chuck was not there to orchestrate Howard from behind to down play Jimmy, these two would be a very good friend, Howard would totally support Jimmy and see Jimmy’s potential, and Jimmy wouldn’t spent years hating Howard.
I've waited so long to hear Howard say the f word.
I really love how this show has the confidence to leave things unsaid. At this point in the show, it's not really clear what Jimmy thinks of Chuck but you can tell what he says to Howard is parroting his brother. Does Jimmy say this to genuinely help Howard? Does he feel guilty Chuck isn't around and tries to replicate what he would say to make up for it? Or is it just another opportunity for Jimmy to be a performer and impersonate someone he's not? This whole season had so much uncertainty. Really love what the show has become.
I strongly disagree. Chuck would never say something like this to Howard and definitely not in that manner. He never cared about how people feel, all he cared about were impressions. He never said the things people needed to hear at the moment. If Chuck was around and healthy (both mentally and physically) at this point, he´d take full cotrol over the firm and sideline Howard.
Jimmy is different. Deep down, he´s a good guy who feels guilt and has conscience. That´s why when he sees Howard so low, he remember the good Howard did for him and tries to get him back on his feet.
This was Jimmy trying to light a fire under Howard's ass because Jimmy knows Howard is above giving up.
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@@nomongosinthaworld no you're just a dumb ass. Lmao owned "idkman" yeah no shit silly.
@@ArthurAugustyn lmao projecting much? You are obviously the one who understands nothing about the show as all you do in your comment as ask a bunch of dumb questions while saying nothing of substance. There’s no way in hell Jimmy would parrot Chuck at this point in the show, he very clearly wants to rid himself of everything the name McGill stands for. He simply tells Howard exactly what he thinks and also exactly what Howard needed to hear (something Chuck never would do and was never even able to do). As his choice of words shows, he definitely doesn’t see Howard as a friend but he has at least enough respect for him to bring him to salvage what’s left of the firm. As the guy above said, he took a quick moment to remember what good Howard did for him. The only thing that’s truly left unanswered is whether he only does it solely out of good will for Howard or whether he also wants to save something that Chuck helped build. Again, you’re the dumbass.
Howard was actually a really good guy
2:16 His "Fuck You" kills me everytime XD
This truly makes me sad how they took season 6 and treating Howard
One of my favorite scenes. Such powerful drama and raw emotion.
Unironically a great motivational speech, Jimmy re-lit the fire in Howard here
while jimmy does come across as insensitive in this scene since he didnt allow chuck's passing to affect him as greatly, I do like how it actually really did help Howard here lol
The short pause is what ties it together. It like Howard can't believe what Jimmy just said and needs a moment to process before saying fuck you
One of my favorite scenes
Howard looks like he hasn't slept in a week. He's up against the ropes, which is a very unusual place for him. His smooth facade is slipping.
Howard never really did anything to merit Jimmy's ire. Jimmy displaced all of his anger for Chuck into Howard, he's the physical embodiment of what Jimmy thought he was entitled to, but was never built to be like.
You're conveniently forgetting the scene where Jimmy wanted to settle and get his money from the sandpiper case, and Howard called him gollum for it along with other things
No, it still doesn't justify what Jimmy did to Howard, but don't even think for a second that Howard is in any way fully innocent here
Howard was a straight up dick to Jimmy during Season 1, and in Season 2 he treated Kim badly due to Jimmy messing up at Davis and Maine.
I realize Howard was actually being a dick to Jimmy on behalf of Chuck in Season 1, but he was still complicit, and honestly Howard had more control of HHM at that point (although due to Howard’s reverence for Chuck he sided with him).
None of that justifies how Jimmy treated Howard in seasons 5 and especially 6, but I’m not surprised that Jimmy doesn’t think all that fondly of him. By the time Howard started trying to make amends with Jimmy, a lot of the decency that Jimmy had in him had eroded.
A brilliantly observed assessment.
@@peacefanatic3590 lol and Howard even threw money at him and told him to come back to HHM with the beggar's cup🤣
I am sure after this Howard will get his shit together and brings HHM to it's former glory. Sure, nothing bad is going to happen to him.
Probably the last half-decent thing Jimmy did to Howard.
Yeah, Jimmy was a tremendous ass to Howard.
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I really hope Howard plays a pivotal role in Season 6 to bring the series to a close. Howard is Jimmy’s link back to Chuck and would be a great way to tie the entire series together now considering Chuck has been dead for two seasons. Howard is a lot like Chuck’s ghost that still haunts Jimmy, and he needs to deal with that.
boy do i have a news for you
Howard and Chuck are both ghosts now.
Well you weren't wrong!
I can't explain how well I love this scene.
It always amazed me how patient and forgiving Howard was to Jimmy for decades. He is definitely the better man
THE DEFINITION OF TOUGH LOVE
Jimmy’s most kind interaction with Howard is also the one where he calls him a shitty lawyer
Hearing Howard say fuck you, you can definitely tell he's motivated now. XD
At least he still had his hair in the end
Here in 2022 and that setback line hit different now
This is the moment Huel became reasonably happy
This scene was so funny, I loved it
Immediately After Saul said "There you go, Use that!" both Saul and Howard knew Saul was right.
I love how Howard lays into that f bomb! Such inflection out the gate.
"Your a shitty lawyer howard" then just walks off without the compliment xD
That good ol F you caught me by surprise lol
Wow. Heartbreaking.
Nothing beats a good f-bomb out of nowhere
Jimmy was being a good friend to Howard here. It's what he needed to hear, it's too bad at his core Jimmy is an insecure, spiteful human being and Howard's honest leaps towards progression made him feel inferior
This scene also suggests how delusional Jimmy can be. He's beginning to project his own self-loathing and shame about his his brother's death onto Howard, and he's overly crediting himself with the referral of a client to HHM - which is only to service the will of a deceased woman.
This is the definition of tough love
2:18 “fuck you Jimmy.”
You welcome guys 😂
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I really feel like this is the moment that helped turn Howard around. He is the lowest he has ever been and it's quite ironic that Jimmy was the push for Howard to turn his life around. Which makes events of season 6 all the more painful, because Howard got put down by the same guy that lifted him up.
This is the exact moment that walter jr did not receive breakfast
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Probably the nicest thing Jimmy ever did for Howard, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it played a large part in Howard offering Jimmy a job in Season 5. Too bad Jimmy was too bitter to accept it.
There's something outside all the components. More than the sum of its parts kinda thing. More than the writing, acting, pacing, camera work, lighting, production design. More than all of it. I just keep watching scenes from this show even though in so many ways a scene like this would be mundane, possibly even boring in any other context.
They need to give Howard more backstory...
Not necessarily historical stuff (although that wouldn't fail to get eyes glued to the show) but more of him outside the office...his home life etc.They could definitely do something there...
@@rampageclover9788 would be cool to have a flashback scene with him and Slippin Jimmy, maybe when Chuck was tutoring him for the bar and they met or something like that. Just to see how a Howard at the bottom and Slippin Jimmy would interact
And Jimmy supported and encouraged Howard every day forward.
I lost it when Hamlin said "Fuck you, Jimmy" 😂
My favorite frenemies duo
One of my favorite scenes from the show!
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This is one of my favorite little TV scenes ever. Brilliant.
Funny how he just ripped him another new one this episode with the screaming in the court this recent episode. (S05E07)
"I AM A GOD DRESSING LIKE AN HUMAN"
"ripped him another new one"
Howard was far too decent with Jimmy
@@zekeiwa5837 Howard is still a professional, as a socially capable person and as a lawyer surrounded by witnesses he knows an argument wouldn't help anything - this is that yes or no answer he's been waiting around for. He's come out the other end of his crisis with this "namaste" thing going which tries to avoid confrontation, and he's smart enough (and a professional arguer) to know Jimmy isn't arguing *for* anything he's just ranting.
This is the moment walter became funky kong
HHM? More like DK crew
Fuck you
“You’re a shitty lawyer Howard, but you’re a great businessman, so go out and sell”
The perfect summarization of Howard Hamlin
I find it fascinating that Jimmy was actually gauging Howard in his own metrics.
Haha Howard's "fuck you" was damn out of his heart. Well uttered
Probably the last time Jimmy was ever genuinely nice to Howard.
We all need a friend like Jimmy who's willing to be hated for saying what they need to hear the most
This is the moment Don Eladio became Zafiro Anejo
Fuck you
@@felipeacostamunoz1249 There you go... Use that!
"Fuck you Jimmy"
Laughed so hard
That F-bomb is unprecedented
Such a great scene between such talented men. And it always raised an interesting question for me. Who is tougher? Jimmy who seemingly has no remorse even though he played a key part in his brother's demise OR Howard who takes all the blame and pulls through. Insane series.
Howard without a doubt, Jimmy has remorse, it's there all the time, he just projects it into everything else, like the time the bar almost didn't accept him where he projected onto Kim, or the whole lightning bolts speech. Howard got hit hard, but he didn't bottle up all those emotions and he didnt have any more baggage after some seasons