*The ironic part is, Jimmy was being honest in his first interview. But they didn't accept him because they said he seemed "insincere." So the next time Jimmy faked it all, told them what they wanted to hear, and they accepted him. In short, the system made him become a liar.*
I'd say that he wasn't completely honest on the first interview, because is obvious that he didn't acknowledged Chuck because he just wasn't ready to do it, so he gets pushed into this situations between his feelings/grief and his goals as a lawyer and the kind of person he wants to be, and the kind of life he will live from now on. In the end he gets cornered, and maybe some of the words he spoke really could've expressed really well how he was feeling, but these words didn't hold the weight that they should after Jimmy ended up coming to terms with the fact that the complicated relationship with his brother ended on such a tragic note, in the end basically he was pushed/forced to skip steps from the process and now it's on a constant fase of negation or lack of acknowledgment to the suffering that the loss of his brother has caused him to have.
Bob interprets Jimmy, Jimmy in the court acted to fool the commission. We didn't even see Saul in bcs and even if we did the personality of Saul is not some alter-ego, instead is the true Jimmy without masks on his face.
I could honestly see BCS ending in Season 5. I dont ever want it to end but 10 Episodes should be enough to finish his transition. He has given into being Saul Goodman and already has all connections from BB so Season 5 could be it
@@subscribeofficial7134 Chill, it was obvious he was manipulating everyone. If you watched Breaking Bad you know. Plus there is the whole denial which fuels the character development. You're not a psychopath for predicting something predictable. And psychopaths aren't prophets.
Kim Wexlers facial expressions throughout that last scene say so much, she knows she’s helped create a monster, whereas she dabbles in moral ambiguity for like a guilty pleasure thrill, it’s like she’s finally realizing Jimmy is not the same. It’s one thing to occasionally indulge in a guilty pleasure, it’s another to watch an addict give up trying to resist and just say screw it and plough full speed into it.
I read the scene differently, especially in hindsight from later seasons. What sets her off is "one guy was actually crying". Meanwhile, she was crying in there. Saul played everyone, and she wasn't in on the game, he manipulated her this time. Jimmy not keeping her in the loop is consistently a sticking point in their relationship.
Those BAR lawyers were even more disgusting than Saul, IMO. They only gave his license back because they heard what they wanted to hear, that Chuck was a supreme, unbeatable and moral man that could never be surpassed by his imoral brother.
Preach. People love to see others grovel. Chuck is one of them so when he praises Chuck they take it as their own compliments and feel good to throw charity to Jimmy who is appealing to their gracious benevolence.
Jimmy got totally screwed up by Chuck's final words to him. His entire life had a purpose - to make Chuck proud of him. And for Chuck to die with the words "Truthfully, you never mattered all that much to me" put a hole in Jimmy's life and purpose where now he is only out for himself. He has realized, I can't live my life to please anyone else. I never will be what they want. It's all about me now. And the writers have done a brilliant job [in my estimation] at depicting how a sweet guy can transform into a *Saul Goodman.*
literally i was thinking about that too, the show creators did a brilliant job, they literally used the silence perfectly, its like they are communicating using the peoples expression, behaviour and all, and its not just Jimmy that we see develop, we also see Mike And Nacho (not alot really) idk I personally have watched a hell lot of shows on netflix and i can say without a doubt Better call saul is the best. And Kims Face at the End, says everything that needs to be said
@@moezart187 I agree, all the actors on the show and especially Kim are excellent at silent expression. Watching Kim transform from excited to appalled in that last scene is an awesome example. But it all starts with the killer writing. Such a well crafted show.
Jimmy keeps mentioning people being saved from fires in his concs, as the ultimate show of a good person and a hero. Whatever he says, it's obvious he's not over Chuck, and the flashback just showed that Chuck and Jimmy loved each other, it was just toxic, because Chuck loved him, but in a "you're beneath me" way, in a "I'll always have to take care of you" way. It's just sad because if both of them had been better to each other, things may have gone another way. If Jimmy had cleaned up his act sooner, if Chuck's parents may have listenedto him or loved him (it'sobvious that Chuck feels his parents never loved him as much as Jimmy, no matter how good he was), if Chuck had being able to give Jimmy more of a chance, things may have gone better. Jimmy breaks because the world doesn't allow him to change to a good person, no matter how much he tries. Chuck breaks because he will never be liked or loved, no matter how much he tries to be "good". It's a tragedy.
Well... that scene only showed that Jimmy and Chuck had one drunk night where they were tolerant and cool with each other. But their relationship as a whole wasn't loving. Especially when you have an older and younger brother with no parents around... the older brother has quite an influence on the esteem of the younger. And as Dr. Phil would say... "It takes 1000 at-a-boys to erase one you're-not-good-enough". And Chuck gave Jimmy tons of you're-not-good-enoughs to bury Jimmy in a bitter grave marked as *Saul Goodman.*
Chuck died in that fire but his envy and hate lived on and haunted Jimmy from his grave. For Jimmy the only way to finally get rid of Chuck is to become Saul.
I read on the internet that Jimmy really died in the scene where he starts crying in his car. I think that's accurate. I think that it was Jimmy McGill the whole time or the most of the time in those first three seasons of BCS. He was a problematic maybe, but he had a good heart. It wasn't Saul Goodman at all. And this last season it was like fight between Jimmy and Saul, like who takes control over him. What we saw when he breaks down in his car after he talked with the girl, was final, or one of final glimps of Jimmy McGill. And than, the whole next scene with him and Kim, was Saul already, the fake, amoral and egocentric guy from Breaking Bad. Or maybe it's not exactly the same version of Saul from Breaking Bad right at the end of the 4th season of BCS but he's on the way there.
Yeah of course. Jimmy's "death" could be rather symbolic, or something like that. I would say that the crying scene in the car had it's deeper meaning. He was "Jimmy" at the moment because he was sincere, he felt sorry for himself. It was no time for his cons, or his acting, nobody was there and he could be without his mask at the moment. "Saul" persona was embodiment of his self that always could persuade people, the person which was full of himself. The part of his character in which he was making fake or exaggerative emotions to manipulate with people was him in his element. And he always did this, but this time, it was too amoral and only for his goals. I would think of the show that it has a main character with two characters inside him. Breaking Bad had Walt/Heisenberg, and Better Call Saul has Jimmy/Saul. Of course it's more complex than that. It's rather symbolic meaning.
I tough it would be interesanting see this scene with out the explination of the "Saul Goodman" name. How many people would get that he was saying to her his new name?
@@claudiarey699 That would actually be interesting. Still, some people have forgotten its origins even now already, and they're quite confused, so I don't think it would add to the story overall.
I don't think he's completely lying here. It seems like he's speaking for his past self, who actually wanted to make Chuck proud and admire him and cared for him. So I think he's pretending to have those feelings in the present when he's not, but that doesn't mean those feelings weren't real at some point of his life.
I think both his initial bar hearing and his appeal share very interesting contrasts. His initial bar hearing, he shows sincerity- with the exception of his feelings to Chuck, because he suppressed all of his emotions related to Chuck. However, he still (likely) thinks he doesn’t care, so it’s at least accurate to what he believes now. His appeal, on the other hand, is not accurate to what he believes, but is true to what he did believe prior. He once saw Chuck exactly like this, and would describe him as so. These were his real feelings at some point, as you said.
Still reeling from the Mike/Werner scene, they serve up this scene before the show goes dark for another year. The finale was a one-two punch that knocked us all out cold. This is some of the best drama ever committed to film.
This is the moment along with Mike's killing or Werner Ziegler when the Breaking Bad versions of Jimmy and Mike are finalized. Both have fully crossed over into the dark side. Jimmy through manipulation and Mike through murder.
The best con of all. A 9 month year old con. A con so convincing that at one point I thought his emotions for Chuck were real and he would break down crying. However the only time he cried was when it was all about him. About how realizing how he would never be good enough to be respected by the lawyering world. So he finally chose to embrace his alter ego identity, Saul Goodman and do it all for himself. He played Kim and us. Genius writing. Never seen a show like it. Bring on season 5. Can't wait to see it develop further even though we know how it truly ends. Again, genius writing.
rdokoye Not to make it personal but one of my family members are a serious arsehole but I still love him. Family is all at the end of the day and you love family by default unless it's so so so bad. Jimmy and Chuck's relationship was far from the worst it can be. Jimmy just used his brothers death as a tool with no remorse, who's the real monster?
Chuck was right about him though. everything he said will happen really did in the end. the interesting thing is that in trying to prevent it he actually caused it to happen
Call me an old softy, but that part of Jimmy breaking down in his car (which also breaks down) hit me emotionally. Goes to show how good an actor Bob Odenkirk is.
I see everyone in the comments lauding Bob Odenkirk's performance and I agree it was good but Rhea Seehorn is excellent. She takes us through everything Kim is feeling and thinking with very minimal dialogue here. She's quietly been the MVP this season and I'll be disappointed if she doesn't get a ton of awards for it.
The irony here is that during his initial reinstatement hearing, Jimmy was being 100% genuine and sincere. Unfortunately, Jimmy being himself wasn't good enough for the committee. They called him 'insincere'. The second time around, he put on a show of sincerity by playing everyone in that room.
@@BravoDox Jimmy could have said Chuck was my inspiration but he isn't anymore due to us having a public feud. That's why I broke into his house and destroyed his property. It was wrong and I won't resolve any conflicts in such a violent manner ever again. However I don't want to go into any more detail about Chuck because that's a personal issue. My reasons for being a lawyer have changed due to my girlfriend Kim Wexler. She has been a huge support in my life and her professionalism and excellence as an attorney has motivated me to continue my legal career." That's not hard to say and that would be sincere. In fact Kim even argues that Jimmy only had to mention Chuck briefly. He didn't need to say an entire speech about Chuck. Jimmy tends to make himself the victim as a way to avoid consequences for his actions. Kim knows how much of a bully Chuck was but Jimmy treats Kim like dirt for making a reasonable point about mentioning Chuck briefly. Which is why they had such a big argument and Jimmy was scared that it would lead to a breakup. Kim was the one who said let's try again not Jimmy.
3:50-4:00 This 10 seconds kills me. How Kim goes from thrilled that Jimmy got reinstated by finally addressing his feelings towards Chuck to realizing that it was a con. Her smile fades, her shoulders stiffen, she starts taking deep breaths and tensing her fingers. Awesome acting.
"I'll do everything in my power to be worthy of the name McGill." Two minutes later... "I'm not going to be practicing under the name McGill." It 'Saul Goodman
a surface level mischaracterization of the slightly deeper context. he's still a 'McGill' even if he rebrands as Goodman just like Facebook is still a plague on humanity even if it rebrands as Meta
So next season, we will see Saul Goodman playing a part in the relationships of Lalo, Nacho, Gus, and Mike. It's pretty obvious that Jimmy and Kim will break up but I hope she won't die.
It's funny how we all thought Kim would end up breaking up with Jimmy at S5, and then the complete opposite happens. Kim is so hopelessly devoted to Jimmy that she broke bad herself.
so what? because your brother doenst love you u are going to turn yourself into a crminal? Jimmy was always a crook and Chuck saw it from the very begining
The Left Panel Kudos to you sir and your perception. Mike Ehrmantraut would be proud. Correct on both counts. That's the lightning fast Iceman in the lightning fast MP4-20 - a match made in heaven. Alas reliability wasn't the forte of the last of the V10 monsters so it ironically became the fastest loser in history. I wonder how a meeting between Jimmy and Kimi would go. He'd pitch an idea and either get a light smile or a "leave me alone, I know what I'm doing!". Somebody like Max Mosley probably needed a lawyer from the Slippin' Jimmy school of law bending though.
they got me. i was basically in tears at jimmy's speech. incredible acting. ive never felt a show dupe me that much. one of a kind television show right here.
I just realized that not only did jimmy fool Kim and the Judges, but he also fooled us; when he says he'll "do everything to be worthy of the name McGill" (I did actually believe that part), only to reveal that he's not gonna practice under this name once he's been allowed to. that's such an amazing work from the writers.
Y'know sometimes i feel kinda bad when i read stuff like this because i can relate to Jimmy on the "being sleazy and lying/manipulating and being really proud of it afterwards" thing. I'm not trying to be edgy or anything, i genuinely just have those tendencies. I guess i don't really realize how much it affects people emotionally and often i catch myself not really caring anyway.
why are you surprised tho if you watched carefully enough Jimmy's already dead since the moment Chuck said he meant nothing to him. After that all his behaviors were already changed
This hurt. I knew it was fake, I suspected it, but a little part of me was hoping that it was real, that Jimmy actually meant what he said. And I think in part he did, I think he meant what he said about Chuck, the things he said, but used that to manipulate people. Some people are saying Jimmy was ALWAYS Saul, always a bad person, but I doubt it. I think Jimmy has a big heart, and actually cared about helping others, he makes it clear he is passionate about lawyering when he is trying to get his license back. But he always had this crook inside of him, though it's not who he is, just a part of him that he always tried to keep in check, and who nobody believed could actually do it. That's when he decided "I'm gonna be who you think I am, why try anyways if you will never believe I can change?" and then he turned into Saul Goodman.
Athrun Zala I mean you could say that, but Jimmy transformed more into a loud-mouthed funny scumbag. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed him in BB as Saul Goodman, but to see how different he is in BCS just surprises me.
That's basically the advice Chuck gave him too. Stop being sorry when you know you're gonna do it again, just embrace who you really are and I'd have more respect for you -- something along those lines.
He really did try and change though like when he first became a lawyer he wanted to do good things and help the firm but chuck never even gave him a chance
Loved this episode.. Zieglers story end was chilling but expected, the sacrifice he made for his wife by yelling at her, fully knowing this was the last time he would ever speak to her was heartbreaking. And then this: "There are so much stars visible in New Mexico, I'll walk that way to see them better" ... The camera work and acting are pure gold... Truly an amazing scene. About Jimmy: This is the start of the actual Saul Goodman .. And that reveal at the end: pure goosebumps *Its'all Goodman*
@DoogieBowser Five-O has to be my least favorite in the series. It is so needlessly slow. That's not a problem during your first watch. But by the third or fourth viewing, I started screaming at the TV to move faster.
The cinematography of when he says “it’s all good man” is perfect. It’s obviously the moment we’ve all been waiting for so the framing and movement of the camera at the same speed he is moving is just exactly what it needs.
I felt he was manipulative enough at a "Saul Goodman" level at this point. I love how much I see Jimmy and Saul as such distinct yet similar characters.
He even convinced me for a second even though I knew he was bound to become Saul Goodman sooner or later but this.... I did not expect this. What a finale.
He does this so many times throughout the series.. I think of the part in Nippy where he starts bawling over missing his brother to "distract" the security guard. That was a real breakdown
This is scene is when I was fully sure Jimmy lost his soul. It was inevitable but I think he took Chuck's advice to heart and stopped feeling bad for being who he is. Chuck helped create Saul Goodman.
The moment when Jimmy exits the room and mocks the judges for buying his acting is one of the most horrifying scenes I’ve ever seen in a fiction ever. No violence, no scary monsters, no jump scares just the feeling of being betrayed by Jimmy, damn I think we can all agree that we were moved by his speech and some of us were even convinced by it. And then you just see him laughing in the hallway. Damn that was devastating, that was precisely the moment I started hating Jimmy/Saul.
Ik I'm a year late but wdym you started hating him here? At this point of the show he had no choice but to make this speech or he would never be a lawyer again because of his jealous hating brother. And he tried to make a honest speech but they called it "insincere". I haven't finished the show but I have a feeling saul does become evil. But this scene to me is not an evil one
Ik I'm a year late but wdym you started hating him here? At this point of the show he had no choice but to make this speech or he would never be a lawyer again because of his jealous hating brother. And he tried to make a honest speech but they called it "insincere". I haven't finished the show but I have a feeling saul does become evil. But this scene to me is not an evil one
Brian Bernstein I think he was just in a mental state of extreme happiness to the point where he was so invested into how he delivered his story and how good it was etc that he didnt process Kim’s facial reaction in that moment
@@rchamp247 I think Jimmy thought that Kim already knew he was way past his brother and that she would accept his Saul Goodman persona... Both of which are false assumptions. This is definitely the end for them. I just hope nothing bad happens to Kim because of Jimmy, because I know that from now on Jimmy is only getting into more and more troubles with the wrong people.
@@rchamp247 It's not that Jimmy simply didn't notice. He wasn't even in the room. Saul's eyes were always on the on prize. Upstanding people like those on the appeals board and Kim were just a means to accomplish his goal of taking a piece the law for himself and people like him. It can be debated about exactly when and how it occurred, but make no mistake. Jimmy is dead.
This series made me love Saul more than Walter.Think about it,without Saul Walter wouldn’t have been able to do half of the things he did.Saul is the reason why heisemberg exists,he covered his friend in every situation and never disappointed.IT’S ALL GOODMAN
Very clever use of lighting in this scene. One half of Jimmy’s face is shrouded in a shadow while he’s speaking while the other half is illuminated. This use of lighting was used a lot in Breaking Bad also especially when it was unclear whether the actual character was speaking or whether it was the alter-ego. Brilliant writing and filming.
I think this was the straw that broke the camel's back for Kim. You could see how proud she was that Jimmy was finally admitting his emotions for Chuck and accepting what happened, and in a heartbeat he makes clear that it was all an act, that any trace of the goodhearted friend she had was gone.
I feel like Jimmy really IS being, in part, sincere in this moment. It's true that all he ever wanted was to make Chuck proud, to have his approval and be able to truly stand eye-to-eye with his brother. And in his own way, Jimmy does believe that he's never going to be 'enough', that he cannot be good and everyone will hold him back if he tries--it's the root of his apathy. I think Saul Goodman/Slippin' Jimmy is his route of coping. He doesn't have to go through the complicated process of mourning a loved one if it's all an act, if he is truly in control of his emotions and using that fact to game the situation. He does not need to grapple with the fact that Chuck wanted nothing more than to hurt Jimmy with his parting words. He doesn't even need to process his own guilt in the situation. If he can stomp out those emotions, take all that hurt and bury it down and use it to feel like he's in control of them, as opposed to staring into them head-on like a mirror, then it's all good, man.
I'm not going to lie, I shed a tear or 2... and then at Kim "Oof" moment, I was like "Wait wha.. wha.... what?!?" I started laughing and cursing, "No f*cking way!! 😱🤣😱🤣" Jimm.... Saul Goodman, "The Ultimate Conman" Gotta love this show!!
On a surface level he's wrapping lies and truth together, but on a deeper level he's mixing general feelings with personal feelings, and in that context nothing feels like false. The only lie in this scene is his vocal inflection and demeanor. All the words are correct, but there's so much buried under there.
This scene really did move me. For a moment I really thought he meant it all and when he subverts my expectations it was a powerful and memorable moment for sure. The way he says "Saul Goodman" at the end really puts the final nail in the coffin of the name "McGill"
What a incredible finale, seeing Mike have to kill Werner was heartbreaking but it showed that this was the world mike was in and that he can’t take half measures and to see jimmy give such a moving speech about chuck to only be absolutely bullshitting it and for Kim to finally realize that Jimmy is no longer Jimmy he is Saul.
Love how this parallels with the finale. First he salvages his career by damning his soul to insincerity, later he damns his life by salvaging his soul to sincerity.
Its really sad because the scene where chuck tells jimmy “i never cared about you” chuck was lying. He couldnt live with the lie his whole “electricity-allergy” came back that night because he couldnt live with himself. he went nuts. But jimmy believed him because he wouldnt expect chuck to lie about that or to lie in general. So jimmys whole hate towards his brother is built on a lie that no one knows of, only us.
In the first hearing Jimmy lied because of his denialism and suppression of his feelings regarding Chuck but he considered himself being honest for the same reason, as he was very disconnected from himself at least regarding Chuck. In the second hearing Jimmy was honest because Kim had shown him the right way but he considered himself doing the mother of all scams. He chose to become Saul to finally get rid of Chuck and his kind, who he has come to believe will never accept him as one of them. So actually when he talks about how he admired Chuck and wanted to be like him he was telling the truth and lying both at the same time. Because when he told that, he already had given up any ambitions to become "moral and respected" to finally get rid of Chuck whose envy and hate haunted Jimmy throughout the season.
Rational PoC he wasn’t fully honest, they wanted him to talk about chuck in the first one, when they asked him who influenced him to go Into law. He started law to impress chuck and Kim, he goes into that law library after seeing Kim all impressed with chuck’s law acumen. And he was always trying to gain chuck’s approval. But all he could say was “university of American Samoa, go land crabs!” So part of the 2nd hearing was true but that whole “but I can try to be like chuck” and everything after was just a bunch of theatrics
Rational PoC it shows in the scene that he went to the law library after Kim was impressed with chuck’s law acumen, but he also wanted chuck’s approval. They showed a flashback, I think the first season, when jimmy told chuck about passing the bar and asking him “are you proud of me?” and chuck says yes, obviously insincere. And then later when they were arguing, jimmy said “I thought you were proud of me (for passing the bar)”, and chuck tells him “I was proud of you when you were in the mail room”. Because chuck just has to be in such a higher position than jimmy to feel good about himself. Jimmy obviously wasn’t influenced to go into law by the university of American Samoa. When he gave that answer, you can see the board’s reaction shift, mainly on that one woman.
I like to imagine this was all genuine and true from his heart. Jimmy didn't die with Chuck in the fire, he died in this very court room. Jimmy has never been the best with being honest with himself, and this is the one moment he let's part of that slip. In the end, his pride won't let his true feelings come to fruition, if anything this moment allowed him to clear his conscience and leave it behind him, possibly for good.
It's a gorgeous show, i love the slow burn pace and the character development is the best of anything out there. Michael is my favourite character but all the characters are complex and intriguing.
Chuck and the people he is talking to, don't care about Jimmy. Never did. To them he's slipping Jimmy - he only got his bar back because he talked about Chuck. That's why I like Saul. He knew that. Now he's him, to himself. The 'good people' never gave a shit about Jimmy, never were honest with him, barely gave him a chance. So why should he be honest and give a shit about them? Better call Saul!!
also I love there's always a moment halfway or near the end one of Jimmy's speeches when you can realize if it's a performance or a genuine moment. I think Bob Odenkirk is very good at this bit because often Jimmy's act starts with something that looks like genuine emotions he's working with, and then when he hooks people he jams it up a notch to fully deliver the blow of what he wants others to do. so you can feel the switch in Jimmy as he builds the improv or the performance depending on the audience he's working for.
i feel like this scene sorta mirrors the season finale in the season 4 finale it shows jimmy acting during the testimony it is the moment jimmy becomes saul. However, in the season 6 finale we see saul is about to act his way through the testiomony however he tells the truth and it is the moment he becomes jimmy again.
I relize now that Saul is exactly like Heisenberg. He always wanted to be a good guy but he was just good at cheating and finding easier way to get what he want and later he relize that he enjoy it. Same characters but different stories :)
Saul was bad from start and walter white was breaking bad because of a cancer, walter white was a good person but jimmy never was, jimmy was always bad.
No he wasn't that bad from start. I see you didn't watch carefully. He tried to be a good guy but people didnt want to give him a chance, even his own brother so he did what he was good at. Same Walter, with that brain he had he knew he deserved something better then teaching chemistry in school. All he need was a little push. @@robertorpg2132
Jimmy a bad guy ?? I actually think he's a good guy doing some mistakes , and if I'm being honest I never cared for Walter , but with Jimmy I expected every episode for things to go better for Jimmy
@@robertorpg2132 Jimmy had his downside as do all of us when we were young.. but he wanted to do good and to make his brother proud. That's all he ever wanted. After chuck saying he never cared since the beginning and how saul saw how the world treated "fuck-ups" like him that's when he decided to give no fucks and just "win" in life to shove it up to those peoples face.
I believe Jimmy might have somewhat meant this speech because every time Jimmy mentions Chuck, he immediately hides within the saul goodman persona. The speech emotional affected him that's why he went back into being Saul Goodman.
You know whats funny?jimmy os so smart and good at manipulating people..but theres one thing he cant do,and that is reading peoples mind or understand whats going on inside of her..its not the first time that kim is shocked by his actions and is questioning their relationship but he just doesnt see it even though its written on her face..this the moment she realises once and for all that jimmy is not the man she wishes him to be
So this is how it ends for Kim. This scene makes it clear that she just gives up on him because he's not the man she thought he was but it's all good, man. Saul Goodman is here and that's what I've been waiting from as I sat through all these seasons. Totally worth it. Now I hope the show continues for atleast 2 more seasons.
Kimmy's slow realization that the man she loves is lawful evil and not chaotic good. This is her first actual glimpse at what he's capable of doing when not on the IN of the lie.
But she loves him regardless because she knew him long enough to know that deep down he's one of the sweetest people alive. There will always be part of her believing that he can turn out a better man. He may have chosen to live in insincire act as Saul Goodman, he may have chosen to be a criminal for his own selfish good, but he's not a murderer, he is not a psychopath or sociopath. He's a broken man who's ideals were broken when he was backstabbed by his own role model - Chuck. He lost all hope for redemption of himself, so he chose to be his own twisted persona rather than try to live up to Chuck's ideals when he knows he would never really appreciate him the way Jimmy deserved.
he's emulating the version of himself that existed in season 1 episode 1. At that point everything he says here is some version of what he felt during that time and in that sense he's being sincere because he's saying things that he felt not too long ago. But when he's say those things here he doesn't feel anything about what he is saying.
Kim’s face expressions go from proudness to deception and then disbelief. Little she knew the Jimmy she loved was gone, she wanted to help him to become a better person and instead Jimmy had already created this alter ego who was not afraid of manipulating the law. Rhea Seahorn’s acting is just awesome, I really hope she can finally win the Emmy she deserves.
This was such a shock to me when I saw it. I genuinely convinced that Jimmy was actually finally talking about Chuck and his feeling. To see him switch it off right after the hearing, I had the same reaction as Kim.
I love how he says “I will hopefully be worthy of the name McGill,” and then immediately changes his name
Right!?! Brutal...
I love Saul ♥️
Yeah that's the point
It's all good, man
It’s weird to me how that other lawyer was just like, “alright, cool.” rather than being shocked like Kim
tis the point
*The ironic part is, Jimmy was being honest in his first interview. But they didn't accept him because they said he seemed "insincere." So the next time Jimmy faked it all, told them what they wanted to hear, and they accepted him. In short, the system made him become a liar.*
Welcome to America.
"... In short, the system made him become a 'lawyer'."
it's the point no matter how much jimmy do honest thing people don't accept him and then when he tricks the system he always succed
The shows writers were good at inserting ambiguity in Jimmy's motives. Made the viewers more sympathetic towards him.
I'd say that he wasn't completely honest on the first interview, because is obvious that he didn't acknowledged Chuck because he just wasn't ready to do it, so he gets pushed into this situations between his feelings/grief and his goals as a lawyer and the kind of person he wants to be, and the kind of life he will live from now on.
In the end he gets cornered, and maybe some of the words he spoke really could've expressed really well how he was feeling, but these words didn't hold the weight that they should after Jimmy ended up coming to terms with the fact that the complicated relationship with his brother ended on such a tragic note, in the end basically he was pushed/forced to skip steps from the process and now it's on a constant fase of negation or lack of acknowledgment to the suffering that the loss of his brother has caused him to have.
I love how Kim’s face just… immediately changes the moment she realizes he was acting
"Did you see those suckers? That one a**hole was crying, he had actual tears"
obersturmfuhrer
@@alainportant6412 herr obersturmfuhrer
Jimmy: “Hahahaha, I was acting.”
*VINE BOOM*
Gus: “Or were you?”
@@SaberRexZealot seek mental help god damnit. You can't put vine boom in text. Edit a video lmao your brain is rotting 💀
Both Bob Odenkirk and Jimmy McGill are great actors.
Saul Goodman is the best
@@4L3B4F how?
@@4L3B4F I think you need to get the r/woosh
Bob interprets Jimmy, Jimmy in the court acted to fool the commission. We didn't even see Saul in bcs and even if we did the personality of Saul is not some alter-ego, instead is the true Jimmy without masks on his face.
Sig. Burundomane ("Buru" per gli amici) dude this is TH-cam, not reddit. Gtfo
“It’s Saul Good, man” was the “I won.” of BCS.
It's all good, man****
Making reference of Saul Goodman
Lince no, it’s sual good, man.
I could honestly see BCS ending in Season 5. I dont ever want it to end but 10 Episodes should be enough to finish his transition. He has given into being Saul Goodman and already has all connections from BB so Season 5 could be it
Finally, after all these years, I have become the Better Call Saul™
Winner takes it all is the baby blue of BCS
He so good that he even had all of us fooled
Dude I was Kim right there. I'm sure I had the same expression.
@@Carlos-ln8fd yep. I was crying on that speech and this had me like :O
I am so annoyed with Jimmy for playing me like a fool
Not me I knew he is master of Bullshiting.
@@subscribeofficial7134 Chill, it was obvious he was manipulating everyone. If you watched Breaking Bad you know. Plus there is the whole denial which fuels the character development. You're not a psychopath for predicting something predictable. And psychopaths aren't prophets.
4:37 The way he says 'sweetheart' is classic sleazy Saul Goodman. Such a clever and subtle way to show his transition.
And his hand movement
Even his posture and his hand and body movements show it.
Yes, it sounded like Saul Goodman, but it doesn't seem sleazy to me. It's definitely an indicator, though.
@@spencerfrankclayton4348 calling a woman you don't know "sweetheart" is definitely sleazy
@@Loj84 I've seen men use it like saying, "Miss" or "Dear."
Bob Odenkirk is a master of his craft.
He's come a long way from Mr. Show!
My favorite relaxation music uploader commenting here? I'm actually not surprised.
@@dutty1549 lol why is that?
Great taste branches out to many different areas, I'd say. :)
Yeah, trully an excellent actor.
Kim Wexlers facial expressions throughout that last scene say so much, she knows she’s helped create a monster, whereas she dabbles in moral ambiguity for like a guilty pleasure thrill, it’s like she’s finally realizing Jimmy is not the same. It’s one thing to occasionally indulge in a guilty pleasure, it’s another to watch an addict give up trying to resist and just say screw it and plough full speed into it.
just like jesse and jane
I read the scene differently, especially in hindsight from later seasons. What sets her off is "one guy was actually crying". Meanwhile, she was crying in there. Saul played everyone, and she wasn't in on the game, he manipulated her this time. Jimmy not keeping her in the loop is consistently a sticking point in their relationship.
@@cookiebandit18 excellent point
"guilty pleasure"
you just nailed it. That's exactly how it is, been confirmed in the last season episode 9
@@Secretcodrin I haven’t seen the new episode yet, but from what they had shown of Kim to that point in the show 2yrs ago, yes.
Actually the part where he gives that speech to the young girl about 'sticking it to the man' was foreshadowing what he ended up doing
Not so shadowy id say.
They've spent four seasons foreshadowing ...
ahhh wire
I thought that was about how Chuck treated him, like "they may put a happy face, but they dont care about you"
he literally says "you don't matter all that much to them" it's him saying what he couldn't say to chuck
One of the best scene of Kevin Costner
Lol
Kevin Costner is a real sleazeball
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As long as you believe in it!
A great scene from Leonard Rossiter if you ask me
Those BAR lawyers were even more disgusting than Saul, IMO. They only gave his license back because they heard what they wanted to hear, that Chuck was a supreme, unbeatable and moral man that could never be surpassed by his imoral brother.
Bruh
Bruh
Bruh Raspberry Slurpee
Brother
Preach. People love to see others grovel. Chuck is one of them so when he praises Chuck they take it as their own compliments and feel good to throw charity to Jimmy who is appealing to their gracious benevolence.
Jimmy got totally screwed up by Chuck's final words to him. His entire life had a purpose - to make Chuck proud of him. And for Chuck to die with the words "Truthfully, you never mattered all that much to me" put a hole in Jimmy's life and purpose where now he is only out for himself. He has realized, I can't live my life to please anyone else. I never will be what they want. It's all about me now. And the writers have done a brilliant job [in my estimation] at depicting how a sweet guy can transform into a *Saul Goodman.*
literally i was thinking about that too, the show creators did a brilliant job, they literally used the silence perfectly, its like they are communicating using the peoples expression, behaviour and all, and its not just Jimmy that we see develop, we also see Mike And Nacho (not alot really) idk I personally have watched a hell lot of shows on netflix and i can say without a doubt Better call saul is the best. And Kims Face at the End, says everything that needs to be said
@@moezart187 I agree, all the actors on the show and especially Kim are excellent at silent expression. Watching Kim transform from excited to appalled in that last scene is an awesome example. But it all starts with the killer writing. Such a well crafted show.
Jimmy keeps mentioning people being saved from fires in his concs, as the ultimate show of a good person and a hero. Whatever he says, it's obvious he's not over Chuck, and the flashback just showed that Chuck and Jimmy loved each other, it was just toxic, because Chuck loved him, but in a "you're beneath me" way, in a "I'll always have to take care of you" way. It's just sad because if both of them had been better to each other, things may have gone another way. If Jimmy had cleaned up his act sooner, if Chuck's parents may have listenedto him or loved him (it'sobvious that Chuck feels his parents never loved him as much as Jimmy, no matter how good he was), if Chuck had being able to give Jimmy more of a chance, things may have gone better. Jimmy breaks because the world doesn't allow him to change to a good person, no matter how much he tries. Chuck breaks because he will never be liked or loved, no matter how much he tries to be "good". It's a tragedy.
Well... that scene only showed that Jimmy and Chuck had one drunk night where they were tolerant and cool with each other. But their relationship as a whole wasn't loving. Especially when you have an older and younger brother with no parents around... the older brother has quite an influence on the esteem of the younger. And as Dr. Phil would say... "It takes 1000 at-a-boys to erase one you're-not-good-enough". And Chuck gave Jimmy tons of you're-not-good-enoughs to bury Jimmy in a bitter grave marked as *Saul Goodman.*
Jimmy broke bad and later he paid the consequences
Jimmy died with Chuck in that fire.
Chuck died in that fire but his envy and hate lived on and haunted Jimmy from his grave. For Jimmy the only way to finally get rid of Chuck is to become Saul.
Chuck is an asshole, all he did was push Jimmy to the path of Saul goodman.
I read on the internet that Jimmy really died in the scene where he starts crying in his car. I think that's accurate. I think that it was Jimmy McGill the whole time or the most of the time in those first three seasons of BCS. He was a problematic maybe, but he had a good heart. It wasn't Saul Goodman at all. And this last season it was like fight between Jimmy and Saul, like who takes control over him. What we saw when he breaks down in his car after he talked with the girl, was final, or one of final glimps of Jimmy McGill. And than, the whole next scene with him and Kim, was Saul already, the fake, amoral and egocentric guy from Breaking Bad. Or maybe it's not exactly the same version of Saul from Breaking Bad right at the end of the 4th season of BCS but he's on the way there.
Deepskies that's some deep shit
Yeah of course. Jimmy's "death" could be rather symbolic, or something like that. I would say that the crying scene in the car had it's deeper meaning. He was "Jimmy" at the moment because he was sincere, he felt sorry for himself. It was no time for his cons, or his acting, nobody was there and he could be without his mask at the moment. "Saul" persona was embodiment of his self that always could persuade people, the person which was full of himself. The part of his character in which he was making fake or exaggerative emotions to manipulate with people was him in his element. And he always did this, but this time, it was too amoral and only for his goals. I would think of the show that it has a main character with two characters inside him. Breaking Bad had Walt/Heisenberg, and Better Call Saul has Jimmy/Saul. Of course it's more complex than that. It's rather symbolic meaning.
No music building under the scene - or accenting the scene - just dialogue and execution - awesome storytelling.
I tough it would be interesanting see this scene with out the explination of the "Saul Goodman" name. How many people would get that he was saying to her his new name?
@@claudiarey699 That would actually be interesting. Still, some people have forgotten its origins even now already, and they're quite confused, so I don't think it would add to the story overall.
which makes the youtube shorts of people putting interstellar music over scenes like this all the more infuriating
Plan and execution
I don't think he's completely lying here. It seems like he's speaking for his past self, who actually wanted to make Chuck proud and admire him and cared for him. So I think he's pretending to have those feelings in the present when he's not, but that doesn't mean those feelings weren't real at some point of his life.
good point
I think both his initial bar hearing and his appeal share very interesting contrasts. His initial bar hearing, he shows sincerity- with the exception of his feelings to Chuck, because he suppressed all of his emotions related to Chuck. However, he still (likely) thinks he doesn’t care, so it’s at least accurate to what he believes now. His appeal, on the other hand, is not accurate to what he believes, but is true to what he did believe prior. He once saw Chuck exactly like this, and would describe him as so. These were his real feelings at some point, as you said.
Here he doesnt care , therefore he doesnt stand behind what he is saying ! The first time he was sincere tho
A smart man once said
“Lies are more believable when they’re closer to the truth”
@@mrtruthseeker7358that’s a pretty basic way of seeing it
Still reeling from the Mike/Werner scene, they serve up this scene before the show goes dark for another year. The finale was a one-two punch that knocked us all out cold. This is some of the best drama ever committed to film.
Cant believe we gotta wait till 2020 for s5 smh
This is the moment along with Mike's killing or Werner Ziegler when the Breaking Bad versions of Jimmy and Mike are finalized. Both have fully crossed over into the dark side. Jimmy through manipulation and Mike through murder.
@@patrickoliver9133 haha, yeaahh
@@patrickoliver9133 2020 is not that far away, buddy.
i'm here very late but even after the show is done i think winner is its masterpiece. best episode of television i've seen in my entire life
The best con of all. A 9 month year old con. A con so convincing that at one point I thought his emotions for Chuck were real and he would break down crying. However the only time he cried was when it was all about him. About how realizing how he would never be good enough to be respected by the lawyering world. So he finally chose to embrace his alter ego identity, Saul Goodman and do it all for himself. He played Kim and us.
Genius writing. Never seen a show like it. Bring on season 5. Can't wait to see it develop further even though we know how it truly ends. Again, genius writing.
rdokoye
Not to make it personal but one of my family members are a serious arsehole but I still love him. Family is all at the end of the day and you love family by default unless it's so so so bad. Jimmy and Chuck's relationship was far from the worst it can be. Jimmy just used his brothers death as a tool with no remorse, who's the real monster?
Chuck was right about him though. everything he said will happen really did in the end. the interesting thing is that in trying to prevent it he actually caused it to happen
absolutely spot on. That scene completely put in perspective the breakdown in the car scene.
Call me an old softy, but that part of Jimmy breaking down in his car (which also breaks down) hit me emotionally. Goes to show how good an actor Bob Odenkirk is.
Eventually loses Kim
He got me, I legit cried. Thought maybe for a second this was his feelings finally coming out.
Only to get reminded it’s Saul. Perfect Acting
Yes me too i was crying a little
hard to admit but i had a tear coming out as well
Just watched that episode. ''It's all good, man!'' Beginning of a legend. Next season will be 🔥 This show is just getting better then better.
at first i heard "It's Saul Goodman"
@@MegaMapper yeah that's the origin of the name. He created "Saul Goodman" from the sentence "It's all good man".
didn't know that.
I think it's over
@@brkscat92no lol inform yourself
I see everyone in the comments lauding Bob Odenkirk's performance and I agree it was good but Rhea Seehorn is excellent. She takes us through everything Kim is feeling and thinking with very minimal dialogue here. She's quietly been the MVP this season and I'll be disappointed if she doesn't get a ton of awards for it.
tmage23 she's been amazing from the get go. Incredible actress
I was thinking the same, you feel everything through Kim face
@nerdtronis141 ok "nerd"
We need a Kim the early years mini series
🍷Agreed.. She's great. Made the scene more believable.
*_... and the winner takes it all_*
... the loser standing small
*... the loser better call Saul*
Stfu
@@Jonas-xl4wg good one
... *the game is on again*
The irony here is that during his initial reinstatement hearing, Jimmy was being 100% genuine and sincere. Unfortunately, Jimmy being himself wasn't good enough for the committee. They called him 'insincere'. The second time around, he put on a show of sincerity by playing everyone in that room.
in the first interview he was asked his inspiration and said the name of a football team. he was insincere in both
@@milosmittens1391 according to the official records and the narrative of the story , it would seem youre wrong
@@smileyent.3055 how so?
@@BravoDox Jimmy could have said Chuck was my inspiration but he isn't anymore due to us having a public feud. That's why I broke into his house and destroyed his property. It was wrong and I won't resolve any conflicts in such a violent manner ever again.
However I don't want to go into any more detail about Chuck because that's a personal issue. My reasons for being a lawyer have changed due to my girlfriend Kim Wexler. She has been a huge support in my life and her professionalism and excellence as an attorney has motivated me to continue my legal career."
That's not hard to say and that would be sincere. In fact Kim even argues that Jimmy only had to mention Chuck briefly. He didn't need to say an entire speech about Chuck.
Jimmy tends to make himself the victim as a way to avoid consequences for his actions. Kim knows how much of a bully Chuck was but Jimmy treats Kim like dirt for making a reasonable point about mentioning Chuck briefly. Which is why they had such a big argument and Jimmy was scared that it would lead to a breakup. Kim was the one who said let's try again not Jimmy.
@@BravoDox they didn't expect him to say that all
3:50-4:00 This 10 seconds kills me. How Kim goes from thrilled that Jimmy got reinstated by finally addressing his feelings towards Chuck to realizing that it was a con. Her smile fades, her shoulders stiffen, she starts taking deep breaths and tensing her fingers. Awesome acting.
"I'll do everything in my power to be worthy of the name McGill."
Two minutes later...
"I'm not going to be practicing under the name McGill."
It 'Saul Goodman
Its good man
a surface level mischaracterization of the slightly deeper context.
he's still a 'McGill' even if he rebrands as Goodman
just like Facebook is still a plague on humanity even if it rebrands as Meta
@@FractalPrism. no you are wrong
@@borris3768 don't worry, it's All Good Man 😊
Masterful writing.
So next season, we will see Saul Goodman playing a part in the relationships of Lalo, Nacho, Gus, and Mike. It's pretty obvious that Jimmy and Kim will break up but I hope she won't die.
Sound Termine this comment has not aged well (the second half anyway)... good old Vince. Maybe next season though
No guys, he corrupts her, Kim turns-up friend of the cartel
It's funny how we all thought Kim would end up breaking up with Jimmy at S5, and then the complete opposite happens. Kim is so hopelessly devoted to Jimmy that she broke bad herself.
@@davidci not necessarily
bruh
3:55 Kim realizes she may not know Jimmy after all...
she didnt hear it when chuck said "you dont mean that much to me"
so what? because your brother doenst love you u are going to turn yourself into a crminal? Jimmy was always a crook and Chuck saw it from the very begining
Or she just realised that she knows exactly who Jimmy is.
The Left Panel Kudos to you sir and your perception. Mike Ehrmantraut would be proud. Correct on both counts. That's the lightning fast Iceman in the lightning fast MP4-20 - a match made in heaven. Alas reliability wasn't the forte of the last of the V10 monsters so it ironically became the fastest loser in history. I wonder how a meeting between Jimmy and Kimi would go. He'd pitch an idea and either get a light smile or a "leave me alone, I know what I'm doing!". Somebody like Max Mosley probably needed a lawyer from the Slippin' Jimmy school of law bending though.
She knew Jimmy, she don’t know Saul Goodman
That was the best episode of better call Saul!
Comes at least close to the episode where Jimmy put a phone in Chuck's coat to prove a point in court.
Henkjan Steringa . CHICANERY. This was the best episode
Jimmy can be one of the best clever lawyer and con-man.
My favorite was "Something Stupid". That opening was amazing
I don't know... I think the Werner Ziegler part of the plot had a lot of holes in that episode.
they got me. i was basically in tears at jimmy's speech. incredible acting. ive never felt a show dupe me that much. one of a kind television show right here.
How can you be so naive seriously ? It was so obvious, I mean, did you watch the show ?
@@parkerluciani7048 nice bait
@@kev2403 Nice baited*
@@parkerluciani7048 masterly baited
I just realized that not only did jimmy fool Kim and the Judges, but he also fooled us; when he says he'll "do everything to be worthy of the name McGill" (I did actually believe that part), only to reveal that he's not gonna practice under this name once he's been allowed to. that's such an amazing work from the writers.
I mean, the show is called Better Call Saul so even if he was sincere we would have known that he failed due to Breaking Bad.
@@Sevenerem he and Jessie got the best end of the stick, compared to everyone else.
Bob should get the emmy for this episode.
He was also spectacular in Episode 9
And Jonathan too
Read it Wrong and thought "Bob should get the Jimmy"
:(
Unfortunately he was snubbed again.
RIP Jimmy McGill
This scene actually tapped straight into my soul but somewhere midway through I realized he's playing them and I literally felt a little sick.
He is also playing us the audience as well, great writing
Y'know sometimes i feel kinda bad when i read stuff like this because i can relate to Jimmy on the "being sleazy and lying/manipulating and being really proud of it afterwards" thing. I'm not trying to be edgy or anything, i genuinely just have those tendencies. I guess i don't really realize how much it affects people emotionally and often i catch myself not really caring anyway.
@@stanpines9011 just aslong as you dont become saul goodman haha
why are you surprised tho if you watched carefully enough Jimmy's already dead since the moment Chuck said he meant nothing to him. After that all his behaviors were already changed
This hurt. I knew it was fake, I suspected it, but a little part of me was hoping that it was real, that Jimmy actually meant what he said. And I think in part he did, I think he meant what he said about Chuck, the things he said, but used that to manipulate people. Some people are saying Jimmy was ALWAYS Saul, always a bad person, but I doubt it. I think Jimmy has a big heart, and actually cared about helping others, he makes it clear he is passionate about lawyering when he is trying to get his license back. But he always had this crook inside of him, though it's not who he is, just a part of him that he always tried to keep in check, and who nobody believed could actually do it. That's when he decided "I'm gonna be who you think I am, why try anyways if you will never believe I can change?" and then he turned into Saul Goodman.
Renée Lucero so he became full on heisenberg transformation
Athrun Zala
I mean you could say that, but Jimmy transformed more into a loud-mouthed funny scumbag. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed him in BB as Saul Goodman, but to see how different he is in BCS just surprises me.
Incredibly well put. Thank you.
That's basically the advice Chuck gave him too. Stop being sorry when you know you're gonna do it again, just embrace who you really are and I'd have more respect for you -- something along those lines.
He really did try and change though like when he first became a lawyer he wanted to do good things and help the firm but chuck never even gave him a chance
"S'all Good man"
iRated Gaming SHUT UP
Albert Goddard What’s wrong with you?
The Silly Spook YOUR MOM
Let him calm down unless he's a troll
Great Finale, incredible acting. I was always wondering why and how it would end between Saul and Kim - now i understand, pretty tough to take.
Dan Die it’s not fanalie
@@kylegordon6141 pretty sure that was the season finale
Till next season
Really good. Can tell you have good taste Draper.
Dan Die next season is coming in 2019
Loved this episode.. Zieglers story end was chilling but expected, the sacrifice he made for his wife by yelling at her, fully knowing this was the last time he would ever speak to her was heartbreaking.
And then this:
"There are so much stars visible in New Mexico, I'll walk that way to see them better" ... The camera work and acting are pure gold... Truly an amazing scene.
About Jimmy:
This is the start of the actual Saul Goodman .. And that reveal at the end: pure goosebumps
*Its'all Goodman*
Best episode of the series imo
The largest episode on the entire BB universe (61 minutes lenght) and the best of BCS, now Chicanary is my second favorite episode
Same.
@DoogieBowser No love for Pimento? That's still my favorite.
Mine is Five-O
@DoogieBowser What about Coushatta?
@DoogieBowser Five-O has to be my least favorite in the series. It is so needlessly slow. That's not a problem during your first watch. But by the third or fourth viewing, I started screaming at the TV to move faster.
The cinematography of when he says “it’s all good man” is perfect. It’s obviously the moment we’ve all been waiting for so the framing and movement of the camera at the same speed he is moving is just exactly what it needs.
It's come to a point where you know never to believe Jimmy's emotions when people are around. He's only ever sincere when he's alone or with Kim
Slipping Jimmy develops to Saul Goodman..and this was the beginning.
The entire 4 seasons were the beginning. This episode was the final part of the transformation I believe.
I felt he was manipulative enough at a "Saul Goodman" level at this point. I love how much I see Jimmy and Saul as such distinct yet similar characters.
Finally, we get the saul goodman, we waited for 4 years, and next year, we finally will see Saul Goodman.
I see that final line of the episode as the "period" at the end of Jimmy McGill.
He even convinced me for a second even though I knew he was bound to become Saul Goodman sooner or later but this.... I did not expect this. What a finale.
If Rhea Seehorn doesn't win an emmy for when this season is eligible, it will be a tragedy
Unfortunately she got robbed again. Wasn't even nominated.
Brendan Sousa she got snubbed. If she was robbed, she would’ve been nominated and lost when she was the clear best in her category.
She's isn't even a good actress
@@sauldownbadman876 what are you talking about?
@@joshi66 she isn't a good actress
what I love most about this scene is that the only lie here was him telling himself he was lying
Exactly. I see a lot of comments that argue he was lying through the whole scene, but it’s a lot more complex than that
He does this so many times throughout the series.. I think of the part in Nippy where he starts bawling over missing his brother to "distract" the security guard. That was a real breakdown
This is scene is when I was fully sure Jimmy lost his soul. It was inevitable but I think he took Chuck's advice to heart and stopped feeling bad for being who he is. Chuck helped create Saul Goodman.
The moment when Jimmy exits the room and mocks the judges for buying his acting is one of the most horrifying scenes I’ve ever seen in a fiction ever. No violence, no scary monsters, no jump scares just the feeling of being betrayed by Jimmy, damn I think we can all agree that we were moved by his speech and some of us were even convinced by it. And then you just see him laughing in the hallway. Damn that was devastating, that was precisely the moment I started hating Jimmy/Saul.
I was already pissed when he changed the address numbers 61 to 16 and what he did to Chuck's insurance
Ik I'm a year late but wdym you started hating him here? At this point of the show he had no choice but to make this speech or he would never be a lawyer again because of his jealous hating brother. And he tried to make a honest speech but they called it "insincere". I haven't finished the show but I have a feeling saul does become evil. But this scene to me is not an evil one
Ik I'm a year late but wdym you started hating him here? At this point of the show he had no choice but to make this speech or he would never be a lawyer again because of his jealous hating brother. And he tried to make a honest speech but they called it "insincere". I haven't finished the show but I have a feeling saul does become evil. But this scene to me is not an evil one
4:03 could Saul be ANY worse at reading Kim's face?
Brian Bernstein
I think he was just in a mental state of extreme happiness to the point where he was so invested into how he delivered his story and how good it was etc that he didnt process Kim’s facial reaction in that moment
@@rchamp247 I think Jimmy thought that Kim already knew he was way past his brother and that she would accept his Saul Goodman persona... Both of which are false assumptions. This is definitely the end for them. I just hope nothing bad happens to Kim because of Jimmy, because I know that from now on Jimmy is only getting into more and more troubles with the wrong people.
right?
@@rchamp247 It's not that Jimmy simply didn't notice. He wasn't even in the room. Saul's eyes were always on the on prize. Upstanding people like those on the appeals board and Kim were just a means to accomplish his goal of taking a piece the law for himself and people like him.
It can be debated about exactly when and how it occurred, but make no mistake. Jimmy is dead.
Hmm I think he just didn't care anymore. His mental transformation was complete by that point: he only cares about himself.
This series made me love Saul more than Walter.Think about it,without Saul Walter wouldn’t have been able to do half of the things he did.Saul is the reason why heisemberg exists,he covered his friend in every situation and never disappointed.IT’S ALL GOODMAN
Smellisher 023 yeah saul is tom hagen to walt as michael. that was saul’s biggest mistake, he thought walt is vito.
heisenberg wasn’t his friend, he was his client
Damn. Interesting to think about!
Saul made Krazy-8 into a Snitch for law enforcement. Think of the butterfly effect with that.
Well this aged perfectly.
Very clever use of lighting in this scene. One half of Jimmy’s face is shrouded in a shadow while he’s speaking while the other half is illuminated. This use of lighting was used a lot in Breaking Bad also especially when it was unclear whether the actual character was speaking or whether it was the alter-ego. Brilliant writing and filming.
I think this was the straw that broke the camel's back for Kim. You could see how proud she was that Jimmy was finally admitting his emotions for Chuck and accepting what happened, and in a heartbeat he makes clear that it was all an act, that any trace of the goodhearted friend she had was gone.
I feel like Jimmy really IS being, in part, sincere in this moment. It's true that all he ever wanted was to make Chuck proud, to have his approval and be able to truly stand eye-to-eye with his brother. And in his own way, Jimmy does believe that he's never going to be 'enough', that he cannot be good and everyone will hold him back if he tries--it's the root of his apathy. I think Saul Goodman/Slippin' Jimmy is his route of coping. He doesn't have to go through the complicated process of mourning a loved one if it's all an act, if he is truly in control of his emotions and using that fact to game the situation. He does not need to grapple with the fact that Chuck wanted nothing more than to hurt Jimmy with his parting words. He doesn't even need to process his own guilt in the situation. If he can stomp out those emotions, take all that hurt and bury it down and use it to feel like he's in control of them, as opposed to staring into them head-on like a mirror, then it's all good, man.
Bob Odenkirk deserves an Emmy for this!
Thousands of times in life I had seen how people call you liar when you are being honest but they feel moved when you are actually liying
Shame, you guys cut the scene way too early. The zoom out with Kim is needed for it to settle in
0:08 "You know, pulling your heartstrings... But it's not right"- proceeds to do exactly that lol
3:51 Kim: "Oof!"
So many feelings in 5 seconds, amazing
I'm not going to lie, I shed a tear or 2... and then at Kim "Oof" moment, I was like "Wait wha.. wha.... what?!?" I started laughing and cursing, "No f*cking way!! 😱🤣😱🤣"
Jimm.... Saul Goodman, "The Ultimate Conman" Gotta love this show!!
this gave me chills
Emmy reel. Emmy win. A Saul is Born.
On a surface level he's wrapping lies and truth together, but on a deeper level he's mixing general feelings with personal feelings, and in that context nothing feels like false. The only lie in this scene is his vocal inflection and demeanor. All the words are correct, but there's so much buried under there.
This scene really did move me. For a moment I really thought he meant it all and when he subverts my expectations it was a powerful and memorable moment for sure. The way he says "Saul Goodman" at the end really puts the final nail in the coffin of the name "McGill"
What a incredible finale, seeing Mike have to kill Werner was heartbreaking but it showed that this was the world mike was in and that he can’t take half measures and to see jimmy give such a moving speech about chuck to only be absolutely bullshitting it and for Kim to finally realize that Jimmy is no longer Jimmy he is Saul.
I shed a tear watching this scene. Then I was shattered to pieces afterwards. 😂 Bob/Jimmy is such a good actor!
"I'll do everything in my power to be worthy of the name McGill."
(probably an hour later)
"It's all good, man." - Saul Goodman
Love how this parallels with the finale. First he salvages his career by damning his soul to insincerity, later he damns his life by salvaging his soul to sincerity.
4:17 "I could see the matrix" ahhahahah
Dudee i laught like an idiot in that part... hilarious 😂
Its really sad because the scene where chuck tells jimmy “i never cared about you” chuck was lying. He couldnt live with the lie his whole “electricity-allergy” came back that night because he couldnt live with himself. he went nuts. But jimmy believed him because he wouldnt expect chuck to lie about that or to lie in general. So jimmys whole hate towards his brother is built on a lie that no one knows of, only us.
In the first hearing Jimmy lied because of his denialism and suppression of his feelings regarding Chuck but he considered himself being honest for the same reason, as he was very disconnected from himself at least regarding Chuck. In the second hearing Jimmy was honest because Kim had shown him the right way but he considered himself doing the mother of all scams. He chose to become Saul to finally get rid of Chuck and his kind, who he has come to believe will never accept him as one of them. So actually when he talks about how he admired Chuck and wanted to be like him he was telling the truth and lying both at the same time. Because when he told that, he already had given up any ambitions to become "moral and respected" to finally get rid of Chuck whose envy and hate haunted Jimmy throughout the season.
Totally agree!
Chuck pushed Jimmy to the path of Jimmy's transformation to Saul Goodman.
Chuck was actually a first class asshole.
Rational PoC he wasn’t fully honest, they wanted him to talk about chuck in the first one, when they asked him who influenced him to go Into law. He started law to impress chuck and Kim, he goes into that law library after seeing Kim all impressed with chuck’s law acumen. And he was always trying to gain chuck’s approval. But all he could say was “university of American Samoa, go land crabs!”
So part of the 2nd hearing was true but that whole “but I can try to be like chuck” and everything after was just a bunch of theatrics
Rational PoC it shows in the scene that he went to the law library after Kim was impressed with chuck’s law acumen, but he also wanted chuck’s approval. They showed a flashback, I think the first season, when jimmy told chuck about passing the bar and asking him “are you proud of me?” and chuck says yes, obviously insincere.
And then later when they were arguing, jimmy said “I thought you were proud of me (for passing the bar)”, and chuck tells him “I was proud of you when you were in the mail room”.
Because chuck just has to be in such a higher position than jimmy to feel good about himself.
Jimmy obviously wasn’t influenced to go into law by the university of American Samoa. When he gave that answer, you can see the board’s reaction shift, mainly on that one woman.
he looks like two-face because of that lighting
It's nice to know i'm not the one who notice that Harvey Dent things.
Aster Ginete it might symbolize how he’s faking
This is the scene where James McGill dies. I was really surprised, and it gave me goosebumps.
I like to imagine this was all genuine and true from his heart. Jimmy didn't die with Chuck in the fire, he died in this very court room.
Jimmy has never been the best with being honest with himself, and this is the one moment he let's part of that slip. In the end, his pride won't let his true feelings come to fruition, if anything this moment allowed him to clear his conscience and leave it behind him, possibly for good.
-Wait, jimmy jimmy what
-Saul Goodman
Flawless 💖💖
It's all good, man
It's a gorgeous show, i love the slow burn pace and the character development is the best of anything out there. Michael is my favourite character but all the characters are complex and intriguing.
Imagine the guilt these guys had giving a second chance when they learned he was Heisenbergs Lawyer.
Chuck and the people he is talking to, don't care about Jimmy. Never did. To them he's slipping Jimmy - he only got his bar back because he talked about Chuck. That's why I like Saul. He knew that. Now he's him, to himself. The 'good people' never gave a shit about Jimmy, never were honest with him, barely gave him a chance. So why should he be honest and give a shit about them?
Better call Saul!!
Well, Kim cared about him. But I guess that's out of the way now!
@@Vibind Isn't it funny how we spend all our energy on those who despise us, rather than those who love us?
GET BETTER SOON BOB 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
4:38 onwards in this clip Jimmy literally talks and does Saul mannerisms 💀 damn I am fiending for my Breaking Bad rewatch
That’s such a good catch I didn’t even notice the subtle pitch down of his voice
also I love there's always a moment halfway or near the end one of Jimmy's speeches when you can realize if it's a performance or a genuine moment. I think Bob Odenkirk is very good at this bit because often Jimmy's act starts with something that looks like genuine emotions he's working with, and then when he hooks people he jams it up a notch to fully deliver the blow of what he wants others to do. so you can feel the switch in Jimmy as he builds the improv or the performance depending on the audience he's working for.
i feel like this scene sorta mirrors the season finale in the season 4 finale it shows jimmy acting during the testimony it is the moment jimmy becomes saul. However, in the season 6 finale we see saul is about to act his way through the testiomony however he tells the truth and it is the moment he becomes jimmy again.
I love the way Kim's expression cuts completely as he refers to them as "suckers". Really great acting.
I relize now that Saul is exactly like Heisenberg. He always wanted to be a good guy but he was just good at cheating and finding easier way to get what he want and later he relize that he enjoy it. Same characters but different stories :)
Saul was bad from start and walter white was breaking bad because of a cancer, walter white was a good person but jimmy never was, jimmy was always bad.
No he wasn't that bad from start. I see you didn't watch carefully. He tried to be a good guy but people didnt want to give him a chance, even his own brother so he did what he was good at. Same Walter, with that brain he had he knew he deserved something better then teaching chemistry in school. All he need was a little push. @@robertorpg2132
Jimmy a bad guy ?? I actually think he's a good guy doing some mistakes , and if I'm being honest I never cared for Walter , but with Jimmy I expected every episode for things to go better for Jimmy
@@robertorpg2132 Jimmy had his downside as do all of us when we were young.. but he wanted to do good and to make his brother proud. That's all he ever wanted.
After chuck saying he never cared since the beginning and how saul saw how the world treated "fuck-ups" like him that's when he decided to give no fucks and just "win" in life to shove it up to those peoples face.
@@robertorpg2132 jimmy wasnt really bad, he just grew up in a community that kept scamming his dad so he learned the kill or be killed way of survival
can't believe i almost cried hearing jimmy's testimony
I believe Jimmy might have somewhat meant this speech because every time Jimmy mentions Chuck, he immediately hides within the saul goodman persona. The speech emotional affected him that's why he went back into being Saul Goodman.
This was amazing. I was actually tearing up, he got me.
You know whats funny?jimmy os so smart and good at manipulating people..but theres one thing he cant do,and that is reading peoples mind or understand whats going on inside of her..its not the first time that kim is shocked by his actions and is questioning their relationship but he just doesnt see it even though its written on her face..this the moment she realises once and for all that jimmy is not the man she wishes him to be
Yeah, he's too good for her. He's a genius!
Some of the best acting I've ever seen. Brilliant.
So this is how it ends for Kim. This scene makes it clear that she just gives up on him because he's not the man she thought he was but it's all good, man. Saul Goodman is here and that's what I've been waiting from as I sat through all these seasons. Totally worth it. Now I hope the show continues for atleast 2 more seasons.
that ending was awesome
When you want something from someone, say what they want to hear. Sad how true this is.
the actors of kim and jimmy are just so freakin great.
Kimmy's slow realization that the man she loves is lawful evil and not chaotic good. This is her first actual glimpse at what he's capable of doing when not on the IN of the lie.
But she loves him regardless because she knew him long enough to know that deep down he's one of the sweetest people alive. There will always be part of her believing that he can turn out a better man. He may have chosen to live in insincire act as Saul Goodman, he may have chosen to be a criminal for his own selfish good, but he's not a murderer, he is not a psychopath or sociopath. He's a broken man who's ideals were broken when he was backstabbed by his own role model - Chuck. He lost all hope for redemption of himself, so he chose to be his own twisted persona rather than try to live up to Chuck's ideals when he knows he would never really appreciate him the way Jimmy deserved.
I genuinely believe jimmy was sincere in the speech. He is coping so hard but deep down this is exactly how he feels
He wasn't sincere here but he was in the finale
he's emulating the version of himself that existed in season 1 episode 1. At that point everything he says here is some version of what he felt during that time and in that sense he's being sincere because he's saying things that he felt not too long ago. But when he's say those things here he doesn't feel anything about what he is saying.
Goodbye, Jimmy McGill.
4:51 Welcome, Saul Goodman.
Best way to end the season. Vince, you are the master.
Kim’s face expressions go from proudness to deception and then disbelief. Little she knew the Jimmy she loved was gone, she wanted to help him to become a better person and instead Jimmy had already created this alter ego who was not afraid of manipulating the law. Rhea Seahorn’s acting is just awesome, I really hope she can finally win the Emmy she deserves.
Kim's reaction was priceless. She's an amazing actress.
The more I watch it the more I appreciate how great of an ending of a season this is.
This was such a shock to me when I saw it. I genuinely convinced that Jimmy was actually finally talking about Chuck and his feeling. To see him switch it off right after the hearing, I had the same reaction as Kim.
I never watched this or BB but I caught this scene one day and I was blown away by the acting
So annoying that the perfect final shot is cut off
That speech was... it's sooo good man
That speech was....S'All Good, Man!