So perfect, though in its way... I absolutely loved how you calmly went after her, brought her back and continued the session. She was still looking for any way out possible. I was waiting for when she would finally turn inward instead of out. My days of training are behind me now, but it's such a magical dance of communication and I loved every minute. It was a gift.
Same for me, I'm long past the "magical dance". But how wonderful and worthwhile the work was in helping horses find themselves and become even more awesome. It really was the great love of my life.
@@348Tobico that happened to me too. Life took me in a different direction and then sucked me back into this beautiful and rewarding world. Never say never.
I’m a new subscriber. I watch several different horse trainers due to the fact would have loved that as my life work. I actually “apprenticed” (worked for free😂) for three different horse women trainers. How one handles horses tells you a lot about a person and you sir seem like a good man. Enjoying your videos!
What a great observation! Yes, horses teach you to be productive in every moment, always aware of what you are doing, always checking your intentions, so when things go off plan, you think to yourself, how can I turn this lemon into lemonade.
Beautiful, loving, respectful and smart job of letting the mare settle a bit before allowing her to refocus her mind and look for leadership. Just proves how smart horses can practically scare themselves to death sometimes. And thank heaven you didn't "punish" her for taking advantage of the open gate! I think most bad horse handling is because the horses either take advantage, like this time, or embarass the handler. And some humans are just cruel. You are a gem, though! You encouraged her to get over her self administered fright and to "meditate" with you. So terrific to watch! Thanks for the master class.
Sometimes it's in those moments of chaos we learn our greatest lessons. She may have been telling you she's bored with that lesson, let's find something else. I like how you kept her moving after she joined up,not letting her refocus on the situation.Well done.
I loved those words... to find peace by herself. That to me says it all and you have the insight to give to this horse. Hope she finds whatever she needs. Rotorua, New Zealand 🇳🇿
Thanks Melody! I wish there were more of you in this world. The people that think much deeper than the superficial appearance of things. Love to New Zealand
She had the zoomies and she definitely knew where all the gates are.She is a lovely mover and she is having fun showing off! ❤❤ Watching you working with her when she finally came back to you was so interesting. Everything you said and did was done with so much calmness.
@@elitehorsemanship8765 I trained an appendix qh that looked just like that girl… she would rather run than look at a human… took over half an hr to stop running in a panic and I found I had to remove myself a few times and then finally she stopped… the previous owner said she was hard to catch and after that she never ran from anyone… she was one of the fastest mares I ever rode and they dumped her because she ran off and broke the ankle of the last rider … I feel bad that I sold her … she was wonderful to ride and she had an ulcer that was fixed with plain alfalfa hay…I tried to find her and found out they couldn’t ride her at the auction… never found her … God bless her
I felt like she might look for me herself and calm herself down. I wanted to give her that opportunity. Watching her reminded me of how many of us are fighting battles within ourselves, not realising that we are in a safe place.
@@elitehorsemanship8765she is not in a safe place, as she sees it. You are encouraging her to run so that she is frightened by the increaed saddle noises, as you pointed out. The horse is winded and dripping sweat. If the trainer is deliberately increasing the horse's fear, I don't see that as the horse "working herself" into a panic; I see it as the trainer setting up the situation so the frightened horse exhausts herself, again as you point out with a laugh. Running a horse to exhaustion does not appeal to me as a training method nor do I find it amusing.
@@donnakline4212 interesting point of view. So here is the sequence of events. I take her into an arena. I remove the lead rope. She takes off trotting. She does not realize that she is in a safe place. She canters. Gains speed, she panics. If I go in straight away and stop her, always keeping her in her comfort zone, the she will never go through a seemingly scary experience and realize that she is safe, that there was nothing to worry about. As I assess the situation, she struggles. So I decide, a period of time, to step in. She could have continued to canter, literally, for at least 100km, but it was only a few minutes. The exhaustion comment was on the sarcastic side. She was very far from exhaustion. I go in, with ever restricting her movement, and help her to calm down. She does. The next day, she walks off in the same arena, head down low, finds a nice place, rolls, stands up, and walks back over to me, and stands next to me. Training was a success
@@elitehorsemanship8765 you do not address your own opening comments that she is afraid of the pressure of the saddle and its noises. And you repeatedly make her go faster so it would be scarier. Your description of her working herself into a panic is simply false - you are creating an anxiety provoking situation. Think of it this way - if someone tied a backpack to you that made scary sounds - like a ticking bomb, for example, or a rattling snake - and made you run so that it would make even more scary noises, would you describe yourself as making yourself panic or the joker who put the backpack on you?
@@donnakline4212 using your logic I should just release into the desert and throw her some feed whenever I see her? I should not attempt to work with her or to train her or heaven forbid…..even ride her? Or ima different way, never send your kids to school, because they get scared of leaving their mother for the first time. Who is creating that fear? The child with its own thoughts, or the joker that gave birth to them?
Punishment never makes sense to a horse. They pick up on the bad intentions and don’t understand the pressure that follows. People that beat horses out of frustration and anger are ignorantly treating their horses. Thanks for your comment Dawn.
When she finally "calms down" ... is this what is called "learned helplessness" ? Resigning herself to the situation as she can neither get rid of the saddle nor can she get out and back to her stall ?
Not really. Allow me to give an example of learned helplessness. a child regularly performs poorly on exams even after studying, they may start to believe that preparing for tests is ineffective and won't have any impact on their grade. With sapphire, she learns that she has ultimate control over a situation as she has the ability to remove any stress from her situation, by simply calming down and looking for the alpha in her herd for direction. Hope that helps. And great question. 👍
the horse is quite underweight with zero muscles on her hindquarters...she likely has a severe ulcer that causes her alot of pain when saddled....get her some ulcer medicine and in a few days with plenty of alfalfa hay to eat this horse will be dramatically different...
but a horse like that will never show symptoms of pain… she just runs when she can and tries to escape… my mare did the same thing and when I fixed her ulcer she changed into a different horse.. gained weight and looked me in the eyes… a horse can develop an ulcer in 12 hrs or less and the solution is alfalfa hay or meds … the hay is the best tho… any horse that runs when the saddle tightens is in pain except for the youngsters saddled for the first time of course
Due to her extreme fear and distrust of humans, she was difficult to get close to. Put a couple of people in hospital when they got too close. Kicked them. So she was just afraid. I am looking forward to releasing the next videos.
Just panicked. Had to see if she could calm herself down... Pleased to say that the next day was something amazing to witness. She just walked off into the arena with her head down and had a nice roll before she came back to me
So perfect, though in its way... I absolutely loved how you calmly went after her, brought her back and continued the session. She was still looking for any way out possible. I was waiting for when she would finally turn inward instead of out. My days of training are behind me now, but it's such a magical dance of communication and I loved every minute. It was a gift.
That means the world to me Karen. Thank you for making this worthwhile.
Same for me, I'm long past the "magical dance". But how wonderful and worthwhile the work was in helping horses find themselves and become even more awesome. It really was the great love of my life.
@@348Tobico that happened to me too. Life took me in a different direction and then sucked me back into this beautiful and rewarding world. Never say never.
I’m a new subscriber. I watch several different horse trainers due to the fact would have loved that as my life work. I actually “apprenticed” (worked for free😂) for three different horse women trainers. How one handles horses tells you a lot about a person and you sir seem like a good man. Enjoying your videos!
@@JuanitaThompson-cm5tq thank you for the generous compliments Juanita!
Amazing how a mistake - became a learning moment. The bond of trust forming was incredible to watch. Thank you for sharing. Tabor City, NC USA
What a great observation! Yes, horses teach you to be productive in every moment, always aware of what you are doing, always checking your intentions, so when things go off plan, you think to yourself, how can I turn this lemon into lemonade.
Wow, that was so beautiful to watch her figure out how to calm down, which is to run to you.
Part of the reward you get when you take on the responsibility. I am sure you can relate!
I love watching "join up" beautiful!
Beautiful, loving, respectful and smart job of letting the mare settle a bit before allowing her to refocus her mind and look for leadership. Just proves how smart horses can practically scare themselves to death sometimes. And thank heaven you didn't "punish" her for taking advantage of the open gate! I think most bad horse handling is because the horses either take advantage, like this time, or embarass the handler. And some humans are just cruel. You are a gem, though! You encouraged her to get over her self administered fright and to "meditate" with you. So terrific to watch! Thanks for the master class.
Thank you for fully understanding the lesson that she had learned on this day ❤️❤️❤️
She is like I'm free!!!! Peace out! She is like, dang they found me!! Let me try that again!! Denied!
😂
This horse is stunningly beautiful.
I agree
I like their calm nature and that they are so loving towards the horses. THANK YOU
And thank you for tuning in
Sometimes it's in those moments of chaos we learn our greatest lessons.
She may have been telling you she's bored with that lesson, let's find something else.
I like how you kept her moving after she joined up,not letting her refocus on the situation.Well done.
Wise words Sandra. I agree. Most of the lessons that have stuck with me were after going through chaos.
This was so beautiful…you left me in tears at your gentleness and sensitivity to what she needed and was feeling. Thank you. 🙏😢
It takes a kind soul to feel this Marion!!!
The same way to work with children. Be consistent. Firm. Yet loving.
This was incredible to watch. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and skills!
Thanks for watching Jessica.
I loved those words... to find peace by herself.
That to me says it all and you have the insight to give to this horse.
Hope she finds whatever she needs.
Rotorua, New Zealand 🇳🇿
Thanks Melody! I wish there were more of you in this world. The people that think much deeper than the superficial appearance of things. Love to New Zealand
She had the zoomies and she definitely knew where all the gates are.She is a lovely mover and she is having fun showing off! ❤❤
Watching you working with her when she finally came back to you was so interesting. Everything you said and did was done with so much calmness.
Many thanks for watching the journey! She has really pushed every limit of my knowledge.
@@elitehorsemanship8765 ❤️❤️
The zoomies , I love that
@@elitehorsemanship8765 I trained an appendix qh that looked just like that girl… she would rather run than look at a human… took over half an hr to stop running in a panic and I found I had to remove myself a few times and then finally she stopped… the previous owner said she was hard to catch and after that she never ran from anyone… she was one of the fastest mares I ever rode and they dumped her because she ran off and broke the ankle of the last rider … I feel bad that I sold her … she was wonderful to ride and she had an ulcer that was fixed with plain alfalfa hay…I tried to find her and found out they couldn’t ride her at the auction… never found her … God bless her
I was hit by a drunk driver a few yrs later and couldn’t ride anymore… just in case u r wondering why I sold all my horses… lost my job too:(
I love that you are not stopping this process. You are allowing her to face her fear. Thankyou for your kindness.
Wow. That little exercise you did with Saphire ??? was beautiful. Show us more, please!
She is just so gorgeous, stunning.
Thank you.
Well, she had rollback, flying lead change, counter canter, side pass, transitions, and hookup figured out in the first lesson!😂❤
Right on!
The reason we can 'train' them to do those, is because they are natural to the horse. We are only training to do them when WE ask.
Love your calm demeanor
Thank you
I’ve had this happen to me. I did the same thing. It’s interesting to actually watch a horse want to connect.
And incredibly rewarding
@@elitehorsemanship8765 Indeed!
Great to see the patience of the trainer. It is what more parents should do whith their children... Patience and giving safety and security!
I agree!!
Fantastic join up, with a sweet horse.
She’s a great companion
She has light step,frisky.Valueable horse once trained.
I agree!
This was so beautiful to watch! Thank you!❤❤❤❤
You’re welcome Shannon.
Why did you leave her in panic mode for so long? It feels like it would have been better to help her calm down a lot sooner?
I felt like she might look for me herself and calm herself down. I wanted to give her that opportunity. Watching her reminded me of how many of us are fighting battles within ourselves, not realising that we are in a safe place.
@@elitehorsemanship8765she is not in a safe place, as she sees it. You are encouraging her to run so that she is frightened by the increaed saddle noises, as you pointed out. The horse is winded and dripping sweat. If the trainer is deliberately increasing the horse's fear, I don't see that as the horse "working herself" into a panic; I see it as the trainer setting up the situation so the frightened horse exhausts herself, again as you point out with a laugh. Running a horse to exhaustion does not appeal to me as a training method nor do I find it amusing.
@@donnakline4212 interesting point of view. So here is the sequence of events. I take her into an arena. I remove the lead rope. She takes off trotting. She does not realize that she is in a safe place. She canters. Gains speed, she panics. If I go in straight away and stop her, always keeping her in her comfort zone, the she will never go through a seemingly scary experience and realize that she is safe, that there was nothing to worry about. As I assess the situation, she struggles. So I decide, a period of time, to step in. She could have continued to canter, literally, for at least 100km, but it was only a few minutes. The exhaustion comment was on the sarcastic side. She was very far from exhaustion. I go in, with ever restricting her movement, and help her to calm down. She does. The next day, she walks off in the same arena, head down low, finds a nice place, rolls, stands up, and walks back over to me, and stands next to me. Training was a success
@@elitehorsemanship8765 you do not address your own opening comments that she is afraid of the pressure of the saddle and its noises. And you repeatedly make her go faster so it would be scarier. Your description of her working herself into a panic is simply false - you are creating an anxiety provoking situation. Think of it this way - if someone tied a backpack to you that made scary sounds - like a ticking bomb, for example, or a rattling snake - and made you run so that it would make even more scary noises, would you describe yourself as making yourself panic or the joker who put the backpack on you?
@@donnakline4212 using your logic I should just release into the desert and throw her some feed whenever I see her? I should not attempt to work with her or to train her or heaven forbid…..even ride her? Or ima different way, never send your kids to school, because they get scared of leaving their mother for the first time. Who is creating that fear? The child with its own thoughts, or the joker that gave birth to them?
excellent work. I am seeing a bad case of love sickness. Looks like she is ready to spend a day in the trees.
Its becoming a two way love affair.
Interesting way to handle her. She seems much better with you . Thank you for sharing.🐴
You are so kind
They are always looking for a leader. ❤ Good job.
Thank you!
Beautiful!❤❤❤❤❤she loves you! So sweet!
You are so kind
oh my goodness she is sleek and beautiful!
She is a piece of living art
Beautiful outcome!
Thank you!
I agree not my way of training but everyone has there own ways i guess. At least he didn't beat when he caught her I've seen stupid people do it.
Punishment never makes sense to a horse. They pick up on the bad intentions and don’t understand the pressure that follows. People that beat horses out of frustration and anger are ignorantly treating their horses. Thanks for your comment Dawn.
Very nice facility; well laid out and has great 'fencing'.
It sure is!
She figured it out. Good video.
Thanks 👍
When she finally "calms down" ... is this what is called "learned helplessness" ? Resigning herself to the situation as she can neither get rid of the saddle nor can she get out and back to her stall ?
Not really. Allow me to give an example of learned helplessness. a child regularly performs poorly on exams even after studying, they may start to believe that preparing for tests is ineffective and won't have any impact on their grade. With sapphire, she learns that she has ultimate control over a situation as she has the ability to remove any stress from her situation, by simply calming down and looking for the alpha in her herd for direction. Hope that helps. And great question. 👍
How special is that time if partners and together calm you ket her go her way crazy but she has learned you are her safe place
Thanks Terri
A simple case of horse being smarter than humans
If we only knew…..
What caused the panic?
Where are you located?
I live in Abu Dhabi, the United Arab Emirates.
She is on heat
Don't think so, but never thought of that!
Very nice
Thanks
Very nice! She's definitely a pretty girl.
I think so too!
the horse is quite underweight with zero muscles on her hindquarters...she likely has a severe ulcer that causes her alot of pain when saddled....get her some ulcer medicine and in a few days with plenty of alfalfa hay to eat this horse will be dramatically different...
No pain or any symptoms that seem to indicate this
but a horse like that will never show symptoms of pain… she just runs when she can and tries to escape… my mare did the same thing and when I fixed her ulcer she changed into a different horse.. gained weight and looked me in the eyes… a horse can develop an ulcer in 12 hrs or less and the solution is alfalfa hay or meds … the hay is the best tho… any horse that runs when the saddle tightens is in pain except for the youngsters saddled for the first time of course
Karens
Seems awfully thin. She's very sweaty, needs a break. Too much. Surprised she doesn't jump the fence.
See previous replies.
Is this the backside of a track ?
No it’s just a normal humble farm.
She just learned a new trick. Teach her another one.
Horses serve without servility. No tricks here.
Interesting that you use a western(cowboy) saddle
I just love them. They are also the best saddles to use when starting horses. They can take any saddle after that.
Why was she so stressed?
Due to her extreme fear and distrust of humans, she was difficult to get close to. Put a couple of people in hospital when they got too close. Kicked them. So she was just afraid. I am looking forward to releasing the next videos.
Barn sour or buddy sour?
Just panicked. Had to see if she could calm herself down... Pleased to say that the next day was something amazing to witness. She just walked off into the arena with her head down and had a nice roll before she came back to me
she was going to corners looking for an open gate after finding her way out the first time.
Probabky
Did she run into her own stall?
No a different one!
I feel bad, she knows she escaped before and now the escape is gone
Oh well.
I think she's a bit tired
You got lucky that she didn't injure herself I am very disappointed in this video
Why did you leave the gate open?!🤪
To make this video obviously 👍🤦♂️
@@elitehorsemanship8765 😂Best answer!!😂
That was unnecessary stress I hope you checked her feet for hot and inappropriate first aid
Nice Gates! Waste of $$$, apparently. 🤣
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She was begging for direction from you at the get go!
You are right. But I wanted to see if she could get through it on her own.
Its cruel to get the horse in such a panic modus🙈🙈🙈absolutly senseless😢😢😢poor horse...bad trainer...
Not sure how you came to that conclusion…. I think you’ll find that my job was to calm her down!
OTTB
Why put her saddle on, wierd
What's weird about putting a saddle on a horse that I am meant to train?
@@elitehorsemanship8765 I hope she replies , because her comment is puzzling. And to use her word…weird!
@@songbirds3712 😂
Spellbinding …
😊
Das arme Pferd!!!
She is turning into a great horse.
He should never of left her! She is now so worked up and scared! I’m not impressed with the way you train !
I prefer Ryan Rose's training methods. He doesn't use exhaustion to train a horse!
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It would take close to 100km of constant cantering to get anywhere near exhausting a horse!!
I would never ask this guy to train my horse
How come?
Why?
Her hind left leg appears to be limping somewhat.
You Sir, are no trainer🤢
I think you mean “trainer”
Why? He was actually doing exactly what a herd of horses do.
You have no clue what you are doing.
😂