Ancient Temple of Hephaestus and the Agora 🇬🇷 🏛️
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- The Agora is the birthplace of Democracy and is overlooked by a beautiful Doric temple to the smith god Hephaestus built in the 5th century BC. My mission is to climb up and show it to you!
My next travel video will have better audio as I use a different microphone
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I'm literally standing in the Agora of Athens right now typing this comment after my phone gets a notification of this video, Huh
weird!
Hell I can give photo evidence , tho I doubt it matters beyond being an interesting crossing of leylines
Amazing! What a coincidence. Would love to go. Will be my next trip defo.
Seems like a couple of us were
I like this format, do more of these.
Got two more from Greece to upload
@@Survivethejive this is good content. Just curious, is somebody filming you, or are you holding what's called a "selfie-stick" to point the camera at your self?
@@elgatofelix8917 still doing the just two more weeks posting bro?
@@elgatofelix8917 Clearly he's filming himself
"My man So-crates!" caught me SO off-guard
Welcome to Athens Tom! I hope you had fun exploring the ruins. May the Gods bless you.
Thanks. I love Greece. Not so much the pickpockets
@Survivethejive a big problem in the high tourist areas, really sorry to see that
@Survivethejive Lol, I've been pickpocketed three times in my life, in London, Lisbon and Rome. It sucks.
Sokrates and Confuzius did actually meet after the Finno-Korean Hyperwar
We would be exploring other galaxies right now if it wasn't for the disastrous Finno-Korean Hyperwar.
Yes, after the battle of Hogwarts when Gandalf got knighted by Michael Jordan.
@@ario2264 we'd be felatiating aliens right now if it wasn't for that damned war 😡
Maybe it's just me, but I can tell you are being more open with your opinions on subjects and it's great. The destruction of our heritage through false rewritten history and modern democracy being garbage are both very important opinions/subjects I agree with. Please keep it up. There is no one else I can come to for TRUE pagan values and beliefs. I really hope to see you grow and replace these false teachers of modernized "paganism".
I appreciate your sense of humor :) Thank you for your videos, regards from a fellow pagan from Slovakia :)
Democracy was an idea and a term defined by ancient greeks. They thought the term's definition was closed to reinterpretation. Modern europeans redefined it thousands of years later, and said that greeks (the original creators of the idea and the term) were not democratic enough.
Democrats have taken ancient Civic values that were right wing in nature and have claimed them as their own "social/socialist" traits when they're not at all. Even religious ancient Rome which was right wing and would be considered it today had public bath houses, public Coliseums, public libraries and toiletry, fed the poor and were very pro military and protecting its borders. They were heavily religious and pro family values too. Greece was similar in a lot of ways..
Democracy in western nations, at least Anglosphere, was originally quite close the the Greek model. Only married men with land were allowed to vote. In the US, the vote was only opened to all men under broader qualifications after WWI, Britain may have been the same but I do not recall. Either way, Democracy as originally implemented in the West was very different to how it is now.
Not hard to imagine why they didnt allow everyone to vote, one can see the increasingly detrimental results of allowing that in the modern western world today.
Democracy (as I understand it) is a noble idea, but one that could only truly work on a small scale. It could never work in a society in which the levels of hierarchy are so entrenched as they are in the great nations of the world today (and by "great" I mean large in scale), simply because those in power prefer to stay in power.
@@MudHut67 American democracy was redefined as early as the presidency of Andrew Jackson. Even illiterate, single men could vote. What do you mean "after WW1"?
I managed to see the Temple of Hephaestus at night all floodlit. Missed the Stoa museum - thanks for such an interesting tour of it.The Americans rebuilt it - it's a replica of what was there originally. Hephaestus and Athena are related religiously and mythologically and the Parthenon and Hephaesteion are sited deliberately so they are within sight of each other across the city.. Both gods ruled various crafts, and they both (somehow) were implicated in the birth of Athens's first king.
I am American Indian and an anthropologist. The banned "Geometric Shape" as you put it is also found in ancient American culture and in such it is known to be a representation of the four phases of the big dipper, and by association the four seasons. Four is also a sacred number in American Indian culture. American Indians have their ultimate origin in Eurasia, so I think this symbol has existed in Eurasia for a very long time.
Yes but it doesn’t have the same meaning everywhere
@@Survivethejive Source?
Studying history 4 isn't that busy as the number 3. That does mean the same thing everywhere
"people are still wearing masks over here. So they are very respectfull of chinese culture" 😂
Last year I went from Athens to Delphi in the North. One the best trips I did.
4:40 _«Most people are still wearing masks so they are very respectful of_
_Chinese _*_CULTURE 🤧🧫🧫🧫😷_*_ …… here in Greece!»_
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Enjoying the historical walkthrough accompanied by rants, diatribes against certain cults, and witty comedic relief.
I get such a strange feeling of connection when viewing ancient ruins like an old memory. I Imagine the glory of the completed temples and lives people must have lived so long ago.
I wonder how they would view us now.
ps I love the sleight at the 2021 philosopher statue
You have a very spontaneous and often hesitant, peculiar way about you, Tom. It is very appealing and screen-charismatic. Loved this video.
This was excellent. Only tning id change is maybe a few more longer duration shots of the statues and architecture.
I definitely heard the loathing in your voice when mentioning the Muslim takeover of Greece. 😂
But after 400 years the Ottomans got expelled by 1821. After 792 years they were expelled from Spain.
Unfortunately there is a very similar parallel with what is happening in Europe today.
Europe just like in ancient Greece is being plagued by demagoguery!
My favorite Greek myth is the one about Cadmus found the city of Thebes, it seems to share a very similar theme with other Indo-European myths about slaying dragons, whether it be the _Shahnameh_ and the legend if Rostam or Beowulf.
The difference between Ottoman rule and what's happening now is the demographics of the situation. Being ruled by a minority but still remaining largely homogenous with a foreign minority of bureaucrats, officers, tax collectors and their families is very different from having your own ruling class import 100,000s of foreigners to demographically outnumber and replace you. Even in the darkest depths of foreign occupation in Europe, demographics were on our side.
Once a European country reaches a certain demographic tipping point it's essentially irreversible barring extreme unforeseen events. The USA is lost, UK and Sweden not far behind.
@@MudHut67Also worth noting that the Ottomans often used Greeks and other Europeans as bureaucrats, soldiers and functionaries. Nowadays religion isn't the salient factor. The goal is replacement.
@@legatus7919 fair enough, so even more homogenous
@@MudHut67 For centuries, Ottomans/Turks engaged in mass-enslavement of occupied lands, kidnapping European children who were forcibly taken captive as slaves all over their empire, along with genocides, ethnic cleansing, forced population transfers. Constantinople was the giant capital city of the Hellenic world until the Ottoman invasion and occupation; Athens was just a small town under Ottoman rule, only reborn as a capital under the modern Greek state.
And just in the course of 1914-1923 as the Ottoman Empire was collapsing the Young Turks exterminated remaining Anatolian and Pontic Greek communities that had been settled in Asia Minor since at the least the 1st millennium BC with Ionic Greek colonies in eastern Anatolia and even earlier legendary Troy, along with Armenians, Assyrians, Maronite Christians (Mount Lebanon Great Famine 1915-1918), etc., to create a homogeneous Islamic Turkish state. Literally the definition of demographic replacement.
@@yalinahewage1941 No, Muslims definitely play a key part of the programme. It was their Semitic cousins who opened the gates of Toledo to Muslim Moor invaders in 711 that enabled Mohammedans to conquer and subjugate Spain under al-Andalus for 700 years.
As the Abrahamic prophecies foresay, the sons of Ishmael are the broom 🧹 by which the sons of Jacob will sweep away the sons of Edom. Appealing to servile lower-IQ populations (Islam literally means “submission”, after all), Islam is much more acceptable to global rulers than Christianity since Islam is already Noahide-compliant (no polytheistic Trinity), keeps kosher/halal in slaughtering animals, practices child genital mutilation, etc.
We just got back from Greece. Wonderful, magical place! Apollo's temple in Delphi was my favourite!
I enjoyed this video a lot. Please consider uploading more videos like this. Cheers from America!
Thank you! Will do!
This part is very interesting: 22:50 - 26:00. I never thought about ancient Greeks purposefully depicting gods in such a way to contrast physical and metaphysical realm. It's a very interesting hypothesis
Love your work! Fellow Indo-european from Russia.
I am reading the Iliad for the first time currently and am obsessed with Alexander the Great :DDDD
I’ve never been here- thank you for the wonderful tour!
Such an incredible place. I was just there in Athens back in August to see all the ancient sites, the Acropolis, Parthenon, Temple of Zeus and of Poseidon, but didn’t manage to see the almost completely intact Temple of Hephaestus. Thank you Tom for another great video!
I love this format Tom as well as the podcasts you have been in recently. I recently went to Rhodes and I was gobsmacked to stand at the Lindos Acropolis. We should never underestimate the people that came before us
Well said.
Turning those old temples into churches, mosques or halls for other purposes led to their preservation in many cases. I’m so grateful to have any intact Greek or Roman temples and I want to see them all! Thanks🙂
Whites are very good at preserving ancient things. Even in India, the Hindus didn't start the archeological survey of India, but the British did. Thanks to the British, many Indian things were preserved.
Love this kind of vlogging content!
More to come!
Wow ,you're openly speaking up ,hope to see you at the Persepolis ruins one day.
Love Beautiful Hellas from Persia🇮🇷❤🇬🇷
Thoroughly enjoyable to listen to and to see these places from your point of view.
Superb, Tom. Enjoying this.
Thanks for making this. Really good stuff! ⚡️
Wonderful video Tom! Greetings.
Travel vlogs are back!! I'm happy to see this.
I enjoyed this very much, the relaxed style works really well and some amazing views.
Cool, I’m currently in Rhodes visited some temple ruins and a museum, the famous colossus of Rhodes was a 33m high statue of Apollo I believe one of the 7 wonders of the world back in the day. The island also has some Knights Hospitaller and ottoman history. The place is also not full of numidians if you catch my drift,
Very comfy video, loved the cheeky banter. Looking forward to more
Glad to see the return of the travel videos!
Survive the heat chief along with the Jive! Great vid again.
loving this format
Enjoyed this new travel format.
Thank you for your service.
If we don’t have more-or-less intact ancient buildings, don’t mind reconstructions, like the Agora, so long as the materials and construction is historically accurate in every detail. They give a god idea of what it was like to really live with these buildings everyday. I hope they restore the Parthenon to its pre-explosion condition someday.
Great format!
Wearing a STJ shirt watching this with a cup of coffee this fine morning. Looks like you had an amazing trip.
Great banter
I think it's pretty definite that had they met, Socrates and Confucius would've discussed the right to rule and would've agreed on most things. They were both in favour of government by a class of Rightly Guided Law Givers that were maintained in power by Fialty, Loyalty and a conservative view of society.
Good job man. Thank you.
7:45 "Wife and children among the ruins" sounds somewhat like a familiar booktitle
Thanks, that was enjoyable and educational.
That Hotep So-crates moment was hilarious
Thanks for taking us on a mini historical holiday. I didn't have the opportunity this year, so it was lovely to see.
I like this format, it’s just like taking a walk with you and enjoying an interesting conversation. Lots of bing bongs too 🔔
Wouldn't it be nice if more classical buildings were restored and used again? The Greeks would certainly not have wanted their descendants to venerate their ruins. Ruins and museums are no more signs of a living culture than zoos are expressions of nature.
I look forward to going there next summer.
Great video!
Looks great 😊
enjoyed the vid, was fun and very interesting to view and listen to, I have much interest in that region
Glad you enjoyed it
keep em coming, appreciate your efforts@@Survivethejive
That straw hat makes you look like Van Gogh 🤣
Great video as always.
Love the format. very relaxed and conversational. All good. If you get the time, take a look at Prof. Andrew Stewart's book, "Art, Desire, and the Body in Ancient Greece" from 1997, in respect to the female form Stewart gets it, the Greeks developed at least three primary 'poses' for Aphrodite in which the Viewer (5thc bc) could openly enjoy the goddess in all her perfection without penalty (and it was a severe one if a mere mortal man gazed upon her!) Those devices have been used since antiquity to this very day!
(as for democracy, not to split hairs, but the US, on paper, is a republic, not a democracy and currently our entitled overlords in Congress and various branches of government neither recognize nor observe either mode. To borrow yet another Greek term, we are in an oligarchy, and at gunpoint).
You were full of jokes and wit while filming this. The spirit of Pan must have been upon you.
first video i saw of yours you were sauntering in the woods sharing thoughts on nietzsche. I subscribed then.
Very much enjoy these more off-the-cuff videos as they are more natural to follow for their conversational style. Easier to watch while working. Also allows for your humor to come across. Good to see a come-back of the style.
Greetings from brotherly fenno-ugria 🇪🇪
that modern cult of apollo i would not be surprised if sourced at least partly from nietzsche's apollonian-dionysian distinction.
I’m in Athens now & LUV/APPRECIATE THIS!
Respect for the raw stream of thought filmmaking while maintaining a finesse and High degree of composure
This is so great
Glad I went there in the winter!
A circle and cross can be used for levelling and finding the vertical if used with a plumb line
Very cool
It's crazy to see you in Athens, I was just there a few weeks ago !
super interesting
Recently, I've been reading Aristotle (Nicomachean Ethics), so this presentation is a welcome reminder to continue my study. Aristotle was, of course, a student of Plato.
I was here not even a week ago. Unfortunately we didnt run into each other, but it was really cool to see you in the places I had only just finished seeing
The last time I went to the Aegean area (Kos) it was just way too hot for me. I'm a naturally warm person so even 18C causes me to overheat a bit. Even though it was late September I had to spend every day hopping from water to deep shade with a spray bottle in hand to not feel like I was dying.
It made it quite difficult to enjoy exploring the ruins around the island so these sorts of videos are great.
Sounds like November or March might be better for you then. Even the winters around the Mediterranian are quite temperate.
Glory To Hephaestus - Armourer of The Great Achilles !
gatulaki mou - those cats are nevertheless performing a significant greeting function in a secular setting
Awesome
Great! Are you going to Gobekli Tepe too?
Sweet video! Your travel video to Ceylon was epic. Have you read the book “The Immortality Key” by Brian Muraresku? I feel it’s def Survive the Jive Territory. I’d be very interested to hear your perspective on that
Great video! Hail
Offtopic - 1:15 and force worldwide at gun point really got me 😂 they don't acknowledge that diffrent societies evolve differently. You can't stage coup and expect a Thomas Jefferson to come out of it.
Or they just expect what they get, two or three parties all controlled by global interests.
@@smoath yeah, Americans tend to live in America even in their minds ex - George Bush said you're with me or against me shows the same binary mindset. The US wants a bipolar world where they can be good guys(they've made China as bad guys). Remember the US came into power due to the crisis in Europe so it's important it stays that way to enjoy the status of the world power. Conflicts creates a sense of insecurity and hostility among other regional powers and that's where the US leverages itself as the good guys. The immediate effect of Coup is chaos, it only aggravates the situation creating strong dissent for the US we should be mindful that the immediate outcome of the French revolution was Napoleon.
It's just typical American naiveté. "Why won't our 120+ IQ Anglo-liberal state work in ~70 IQ Liberia? I just don't get it, oh well we'll keep trying."
The thumbnail of this video looks like STJ is about to beat the shit out of someone for saying ancient Britain was black lmfao
Have a nice holidays....
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In my study i have a giant map. As i sit here somewhere in Chicagoland and hear him say "Greece is a hot country..." i cant help but notice how bizarre it is that im sitting at about the same latitude as greece...
Having recently visited the Ancient city of Salamis in Cyprus this made me feel right at home, more of the same please mate!
I’m here too!
English exile in Cyprus here , I would be fascinated to know what you think about the neolithic settlement of Choirokoitia here , and the likely inhabitants
I like your style, nice shirt. Where do you shop for clothes? Know any decent made in Europe brands?
Legio Gloria
Legio Gloria!
Thanks for the great tour! I'm curious to know if the museum noted that the damage done to so many sculptures was done by Semitic cult you mentioned.
Thank you! That was wonderful! And now I do not have to venture down into hot hostile sticky southern climes me myself in person. You have served as emissary.
STJ travel vlogs, let's go!
More to come!
Went to Greece with my parents aged 15 0r 16? Athens and the temple got a chicken sacred one I bought there on my altar - toy/statuette one.
Ireland is notoriously expensive and rainy...
I was in Greece about 2yrs before the Coof hit. Such a cool experience.
That being said, speaking of Democracy and the Americas did you know that the first people who use true democracy in the Americas were the pirates of the early/mid 18th century?
I remember your Qatar video fondly.
2007!
Lol this is so based, good stuff mr. Survive the jive
Anyone have any good recommendations for a collection on Greek Mythology? Particularly, one that is a good/faithful translation of original texts.
Great stuff! No one who has read Thucydides would consider the Athenians effeminate.
You should visit Italy´s megalithic polygonal walls, it´s worth it, especially because noone knows who built them and they are older than the roman or etruscan stuff on top of it.
Greece has some of them as well! Same style, origins unknown. They are all around the globe.
Their origin isn't unknown, megalithic nuts just say it is.
@@ario2264 It is unknown, archaeologists just claim to know. they claim they did it with copper chisels which is impossible.
but who did it according to you?
@@weisthor0815 ah yes they must have had electric power tools from atlantis, right?
I visited one of these remains of polygonal walls near wher I live in Central Italy. It's pre-Roman ad it's called "the Devil's wall" or "the Fairies wall".
@@candylandi5351 Interesting! Where is this wall? I was in Italy a week ago exactly for that matter and if you not have visited yet, the walls of Norma were by far the most impressive if have seen there.
I read that Apollo sired both a son and grandson, which is an interesting achievement.
Lol norse magic and beliefs was there too recently!
The real question Tom, did you go for a gyro or a souvlaki?
Yes. Bloody good feed