START THE BIDDING! Legacy Pain's Reward Black Stompy. Exsanguinator Cavalry Bowmaster Sheoldred MTG

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  • @DarkX64
    @DarkX64 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    It warms my heart to have seen Pain's Reward actually go off in a Legacy game

  • @Fandwicksvhs
    @Fandwicksvhs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man, I'm on semi-bed rest due to a minor foot injury right now. Had a bit of a rough day today, and my spouse said not to play magic as sometimes it's stressful for me when I lose. My mother told me to watch or listen to something calming, so I'm here listening to the most soothing and calming media I know. Thank you for your videos, they really provide an hour of Zen for me in this crazy world.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Happy to be of service 🫡

  • @music00soba
    @music00soba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    god that 2 damage missed against lands was so brutal i was so sad

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Hey me too

    • @Darkstar-se6wc
      @Darkstar-se6wc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bosh pack?

    • @85mcarnold
      @85mcarnold 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@BoshNRoll You live, you learn
      You love, you learn
      You cry, you learn
      You lose, you learn
      You bleed, you learn
      You scream, you learn

    • @music00soba
      @music00soba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Darkstar-se6wc we be smoking

  • @emerson685
    @emerson685 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This was one of my favorite decks you’ve played in a while! It made for really interactive games, despite having a bit off that ancient tomb/dark ritual/full send appearance on first glance! The lifegain really adds an typically unappreciated component to the deck, and the late game potential of agadeem’s awakening is really cool.
    It felt like all the games were competitive, and in another day could have easily pulled a positive record.
    Awesome deck! I’d be pumped to see it again!

  • @ERGOPROXY.
    @ERGOPROXY. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Word soup stompy? I’m in!

    • @demiurge2501
      @demiurge2501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Word soup would be such a good deck name

  • @thebfunk5228
    @thebfunk5228 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    That third game of the second match against lands when 1 missed bowmasters trigger costed you the game was a heartbreaker, great games

  • @GamiHQ
    @GamiHQ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I love that the game on the video is listed as "Bowmasters" lmao

  • @Shuvinile
    @Shuvinile 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    og Kamigawa holds a special place in my heart.

  • @nicomillhouse
    @nicomillhouse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    used to play pain's reward in modern burn before the canopy land cycle. love sub game cards

  • @MarkLaytonFoster
    @MarkLaytonFoster 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That death and taxes game was hilarious

  • @iyaoyascarson700
    @iyaoyascarson700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for all the vids, keeping me sane during the work week!

  • @misty6348
    @misty6348 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm confused on why you're running 6 fetchs, is it just for the 1 of fatal push in the board? If it's really only for that I would think an alternative would be better over push and just keeping the fetchs as swamps.

  • @daltonmekis
    @daltonmekis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    58:40 a spell will fizzle if it is a spell that requires targets and zero of those targets are legal upon resolution. Baleful Mastery is worded slightly weirdly since it says “an opponent draws a card” but that is a weird way to say “pick a player as this is resolving without actually targeting any players”.
    Example 1: Player 1 casts Kolaghan’s Command on modes “Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand” and “Target player discards a card” targeting Player 2. Player 2 responds with Veil of Summer. The discard mode will become illegal due to hexproof from black, but the return a creature mode is still legal so that part of the spell will resolve.
    Example 2: Player 1 casts Cryptic Command choosing modes “Return target permanent to its owner’s hand” targeting Player 2’s Storm Crow and “Draw a card”. Player 2 responds with Veil of Summer. The bounce mode is the ONLY targeting mode of Cryptic Command in this scenario and it will fizzle due to hexproof from blue, so the whole spell will fizzle and Player 1 will NOT draw a card

  • @lui2322
    @lui2322 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Steam vents is 0.8 TIX while volcanic island is +20 TIX

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh good the world works.

  • @lava2istrue
    @lava2istrue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Heeeeeyyy! Dark Deal! I’ve been waiting for someone to shove that into a sheoldred black shell.

  • @ulavala3798
    @ulavala3798 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Duel Commander us Sheoldred players have been playing Pain's Reward in addition to Infernal Contract and Cruel Bargain for years :p it is some hot tech

  • @gafdl6365
    @gafdl6365 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow! I used to play Pains Reward in Deaths Shadow shell! Never thought I’d see this! Thank you

  • @TheBoatis
    @TheBoatis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I love Fate Unraveler, but Sheoldred has to be the worst thing to stand next to for comparison.

    • @jodimatteo4501
      @jodimatteo4501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Karakas do be a thing tho

  • @Crimmando
    @Crimmando 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, Brian this was seriously a riot. Thank you for embracing the challenge. I get that it’s jank, but man this feels a few tweaks away from being crazy fun with potential to actually win. All the best, always a pleasure.

  • @VivBrodock
    @VivBrodock 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was not expecting the curtains when I clicked on a Legacy video. Almost makes me want to build a discard tribal around Turoch

  • @DeSaxofoonVanPeter
    @DeSaxofoonVanPeter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A good demonstration of the significance of _Ancient Tomb Mana_ ™

  • @ecpracticesquad4674
    @ecpracticesquad4674 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The way round 2 ends... You had the miss on Sheoldred and the extra bow ping that would have won it...

  • @user-lh5fp7bf2c
    @user-lh5fp7bf2c 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love dark deal in legacy. So many mono black builds now for this amazing uncommon.

  • @mindlessfool42
    @mindlessfool42 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even though they go negative, I always love these janky black decks. Pain’s Reward!!!

  • @spikescafe3940
    @spikescafe3940 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This deck was really sick, nice build.

  • @lancergt1000
    @lancergt1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wait a minute, this feels like black Death & Taxes in spirit
    A deck composed almost entirely of small annoying hatebears, but instead of taxing mana they tax life

  • @lanychabot-laroche135
    @lanychabot-laroche135 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You got lot of fair matchups where all the mana acceleration was fairly bad.

  • @MaeseEidos
    @MaeseEidos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well no, I was not expecting to see a legacy deck with a HAG today but I'm damn glad I was wrong.

  • @SanchoNil
    @SanchoNil 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was truly entertaining

  • @nealcrabtree3647
    @nealcrabtree3647 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thx for the content 🙏

  • @fernandobanda5734
    @fernandobanda5734 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Delver losing to lifelink is actually hilarious.

  • @gewinner5379
    @gewinner5379 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is youtube telling me the game played in the video is "Bowmasters" from 2016? I guess because that word is in the title :)

  • @dashvash5440
    @dashvash5440 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Deck seems fairly promising, a couple tweaks, and some practice is imagine it goes even better.
    It'd be cool to revisit decks with a bit of promise.

  • @Syaska
    @Syaska 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Throw in Kaerveks spite to just dome them out

  • @calebmartin1054
    @calebmartin1054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Round 2 was such a heartbreaker ;-;

  • @Reeyo711
    @Reeyo711 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like Bump in the Night would fit well in here

  • @michaeldyrud7077
    @michaeldyrud7077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Game two of 8 mulch, I think you did miss a potential look at Baleful Mastery. Cavalry has menace, so you’d get to hit and get one more look off the blood token to still dig to mastery.

    • @Hyonam
      @Hyonam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      was thinking the same he'd still had a draw step!

    • @AaronRotenberg
      @AaronRotenberg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bosh wouldn't get to hit to get the Blood token, the opponent would just Maze the Cavalry before damage.

    • @michaeldyrud7077
      @michaeldyrud7077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AaronRotenbergthanks! That’s what I was missing

  • @LadyMapi
    @LadyMapi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Exsanguinator Cavalry is so dang sweet that it makes me wonder if you could slip in another knight or two. There has to be to be some other Knight that'd fit into a stompy shell, right?

    • @lugvantrug5967
      @lugvantrug5967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I kinda wanna see it with Inti, Seneschal of the sun.
      He is a Knight, Turns the Blood into Card advantage and makes Cavalry more likely to hit

  • @Rafael-qk9jv
    @Rafael-qk9jv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All those blood tokens had me thinking of Urza's saga.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was in an early build but the black requirement is already tough with Ancient Tomb.

    • @Rafael-qk9jv
      @Rafael-qk9jv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BoshNRoll Makes sense. Someone smart once told me it’s not a free inclusion

  • @jeffbriem
    @jeffbriem 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The deck seemed fine. The pilot seemed fine. Luck seemed suspect.

  • @andrewcvety
    @andrewcvety 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    last card karakas🤣🤣🤣 yup

  • @callumvlex7059
    @callumvlex7059 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always wonder why decks like this don't play Sign in Blood, it can be 6 damage with a Sheoldred, or draw you towards gas when you need it.

  • @Th3R3dM4g3
    @Th3R3dM4g3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how legacy creatures are either gigantic monsters or kinda dinky so if you throw kind of a medium size chonker in there delver's like 4/5 lifelink?! What am I supposed to do about that?!?!

  • @42sporks5
    @42sporks5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This deck has phil written all over it lol

  • @juanchetumare
    @juanchetumare 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe I missed it, but did you comment about cracking Dauthi for yorion in last game of round 4? What else was in the void?

  • @Waltinator72
    @Waltinator72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You had the lands game win. You could have played a Sheoldred. He draws a card at beginning of the turn and takes 2 damage before he could attack. You had it.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s your plan for the Karakas that had been bouncing Sheoldred in the upkeep to avoid taking damage for the entire game up to that point?

    • @Waltinator72
      @Waltinator72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, thanks I knew I missed something there.Thanks for the quick response, huge fan. I mean, hopefully he misses it on upkeep?@@BoshNRoll

  • @jacebeleren9290
    @jacebeleren9290 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:29 You mean, "As they say, THREE-ball"?

  • @elijahlyons8164
    @elijahlyons8164 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    spicy 2B brew

  • @dalemackenzie4320
    @dalemackenzie4320 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    31:30 did i miss something or do you not just kill with sheoldred draw trigger if you cast him?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have Karakas, they’ve been bouncing Sheoldred in their upkeep all game.

  • @reves432
    @reves432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah I don't think playing all those fetches for just one fatal push in the board is really worth it. They are probably there from some previous build of the deck that splashed a color but have been forgotten?

  • @Fandwicksvhs
    @Fandwicksvhs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, if we want to purchase modo premium, like the death and taxes opponent, where do we inquire?

  • @Dracomandriuthus
    @Dracomandriuthus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No lie, if you had the option to play 5x pains reward, 5x pains reward would be really good here

  • @alasanof
    @alasanof 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trinisphere always hurts you no matter which side it's on.

  • @rob3681
    @rob3681 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the lack of chains in this deck is depressing.

  • @user-fk3du7pb3n
    @user-fk3du7pb3n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Storm fetched in the second game cause of potential Opposition Agent

  • @Tyrisalthan
    @Tyrisalthan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why this deck uses fetches? All they could get is swamps but they cost you life, in a deck where you having more life means you win bets. Wouldn't just swamps be stricktly better in this? Or there should be something besides swamps that those fetches could get to give them a reason to be in the deck.
    I think there was at least couple of games where it was up to a life point or two who wins that game. So the fetches literally lost those games for you.

  • @TheForbiddenDance
    @TheForbiddenDance 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you explain why tauroch is a bad sideboard choice vs lands please?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They’re not a white deck, they don’t usually hold cards in their hand for a long game, they have life from the loam to get back things I would discard, and they have karakas and maze of ith to blank it in combat. Just doesn’t do anything useful.

    • @TheForbiddenDance
      @TheForbiddenDance 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BoshNRoll thank you. I was curious if the random discard was useful to disrupt their play patterns. I've never played legacy, just watch your stuff so I wasn't sure

  • @music00soba
    @music00soba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    bosh pack smoke em if you got em

  • @XboxTheBeatboxer
    @XboxTheBeatboxer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    re: the deck tech - This is also how you make cards like Browbeat or Vexing Devil "good". If you play Vexing Devil, then your opponent gets the choice, and your four-of unique card can be played around. But Vexing Devil + 4x Noxious Revival in an aggressive shell pressures the opponent. From experience, the opponent takes the first two Vexing Devil hits. But once they get to 12 life there's a psychology shift. They let it live and try to remove it on board. So if you Vines of Vastwood or Noxious Revival it back over and over in addition to Lightning Bolt, etc. there are not more "good for the opponent" decisions to be made. In other words, put it in a RUG tempo shell.

  • @MadAboutVideoGames
    @MadAboutVideoGames 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm confused by game one.
    After the will the opponent can petal petal ritual but if they beseech they don't have an artifact to sacrifice. Did I miss something?

    • @fastestdraw
      @fastestdraw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They haven't played a land, so they can fetch.

    • @MadAboutVideoGames
      @MadAboutVideoGames 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you that is what I missed.

  • @mrhjorgensen
    @mrhjorgensen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why Powder Keg over Racket Bomb?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Powder Keg hits artifact lands

  • @LibertyMonk
    @LibertyMonk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You cast Pain's Reward a lot of times, and only once did you pay more than a trivial amount of life.

  • @IeuroI
    @IeuroI 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is there any disadvantage to have 7 swamp 1 urborg instead of the 8 swamp?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wasteland, Blood Moon, Back to Basics etc. Might still be worth 1 to take the pain out of ancient tomb sometimes.

    • @IeuroI
      @IeuroI 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BoshNRoll, i was thinkin that too. plus, the land effects while debilitating, would hit your other lands anyway & urborg becoming a mountain or untapable is a mild inconvenience comparee to the convenience it would provide freeing up your mana for black sources.
      i still agree with you that fate unraveller is still better underworld due to the 3 coloursless one black, but an urborg makes things a little more convenient.
      also, if the opponent is willing to blow their own lands up to get your urborg, the set back sets them bqck more than you - urborg almost feels like a decoy land for them to attack

  • @bradleytinney6969
    @bradleytinney6969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brian, are you going to Magic Fest Chicago?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup! I have a creator booth Friday morning and a meet and greet with 3 for 1 Saturday morning.

    • @bradleytinney6969
      @bradleytinney6969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @BoshNRoll Are you playing in the legacy event Saturday?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup! @@bradleytinney6969

  • @aronshimada7327
    @aronshimada7327 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No Urborg?

  • @googleplusisterrible4837
    @googleplusisterrible4837 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3 ball half the deck costs 2. Legacy.

  • @Mirrim9999
    @Mirrim9999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Round 2, last game, Couldn't you cast Sheoldred then Pain's Reward and lose the bidding to win?

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You start the bid and your opponent has to top it first. They can always choose to never draw.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I don't think you can lose the bidding. I start at 0, opp realizes they're dead to Sheoldred and just doesn't bid 1.

    • @Mirrim9999
      @Mirrim9999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BoshNRoll makes sense

  • @adamm4942
    @adamm4942 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hey brian I know legacy is bowmaster and bowmaster is legacy to some degree, but I believe the game you are playing is not bowmasters.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah TH-cam has decided otherwise I guess

  • @Ulubai
    @Ulubai 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not sure ive ever heard you that salty. But that d&t guy thrives on salt so its warrented.

  • @robertbrinker1769
    @robertbrinker1769 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not posting a copypasta in someone else's chat but you can all post it here

  • @edde2429
    @edde2429 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How dare you insult Kamigawa 😭

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fun flavor, good draft format, Saviors is still one of the worst sets of all time. Is what it is.

  • @joeaquilino19
    @joeaquilino19 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This deck is just silly

  • @joeaquilino19
    @joeaquilino19 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk why mono black decks have just given up on controlling the opps mana and just get owned by kraxk , hash tag bring back stripping