I agree with Adam so much on getting an education in Music. I work with a lot of other professional musicians and almost none of them don't have a degree. It's great to see somebody going against the "just take private lessons" advice!
But that might give people the wrong impression that, in order to be a good musician, you have to have a piece of paper that tells you that, which is certainly not the case. Jaco Pastorius learned how to compose and do harmony with a private teacher in tour buses and hotel rooms, for example. Was he a bad musician because he didn't have a degree in a music school? In practice, your academic degree is just a piece of paper and nothing more. What you do with the knowledge you acquired in school is more important, since your regular joe couldn't care less about your pieces of paper, but wheter your music is good or not.
CrimSun thats invalid for the average person considering a music career. How many jaco pastorius are there in the world? Just because the biggest musicians in the world did not get a music degree, it doesnt mean someone who wants to have musical career should follow the same thinking. Like Jens said, from his experiences, most gigging musicians have a degree, and thats a clear correlation that WILL help you.
It’s mostly due to two reasons why most people you work with have degrees. First is that those guys are session musicians and not rock stars or musicians that are “making it” by solely writing and performing their music. Second is that people you work with are I assume mostly jazz musicians which makes sense for having a degree due to its musical complexity. There is no need for a degree to solely write music other than classical or jazz/fusion. However when you’re a session musician that must have the necessary skills to be able to perform reharmonization and read sheet music on the spot as fast as possible then yes having a degree will probably be close to being necessary and certainly be very helpful. Bottom line is that it depends on what type of Musician you want to be. If you want to be a session musician or classical/Jazz musician then totally yes. If you just want to write music in a band or by yourself? Then no totally not.
@@crimsun7186 (5 years later. I hope everything is OK. And I'm not from a country where people speak fluent English or American English). OK, first; let's not talk about 'good or bad musicians'. Let's keep it simple. It is simple in daily life: if you have a degree or 'a piece of paper' with some evidence (like being approved by teachers or schools which are known), you don't have to prove every time again that you can actually do what you are trying to prove. OK? Take Jaco for instance. Can he play bass? Yes. He can prove it, with records or just simply by playing. OK. Can he be a good teacher? Maybe, but there are many musicians with terrible educational skills. Schools are schools. Not every musician wants to be a 'famous' musician, most musicians play for fun and have also other goals, like being happy married, have a predictable easy going job, healthy children and so on. Take me for example; I play music for 40 years. I have payed gigs almost every 2 weekends. I don't have the right papers (or skills) to be a professional. But people know me. I put a lot of efforts in playing music, day after day. For most bands and schools that's sufficient. There are a lot of great musicians with great skills, but are not enough predictable. My bands or pupils are not interested in the fact if I have XXX likes on TH-cam, they want me to be a predictable musician. They want someone who they can rely on. And yes; I am. And they know that because of witnesses of real people, not because of likes on TH-cam. And if I want the right papers, then I have to try to get them, like everybody. But that's OK. Besides that, I have the right papers and degrees for jobs, most teachers don't have. So the day they want to do my profession, they will have to go through all the steps I had to go. In real life, you have to earn every paper or degree. Or to prove that you can do it, day in, day out. Fair enough.
Rick, thank you so much for this interview! Out of all musical channels on TH-cam (this is another saturated field) I watch yours and Adam's the most. So, it was a very fun watch :-) Cheers to both of you (and your incredibly talented children!) from Russia!
The two best music educators in yt today imo. Can't thank enough both of these guys for sharing their knowledge and experience with other people. It really makes my musical life change and expand. Cheers from Brazil.
A couple thoughts. Classical often abandons pulse in favor of emotion. It has been done in rock as well -Stairway to Heaven is obviously the gold standard here. 18:25 There is a shortcut to achieve a variant of this, temporarily. 36:01 The first Chill composer. Rick Beato is one of the finest interviewers I have seen. He could easily interject w/ authority at many points and yet he rarely does. A maestro on many levels.
My idea to improve audio quality: The interviewed person records his audio while talking to you and gives it afterwards to you. Therefore the noise and cracking stops.
I listen to these interviews on my commutes to school every weekday, and cannot wait for tomorrow to listen to this one; you two are my favorite theory channels! As a side note, have you heard of Adam's peer/friend Ben Levin? He also runs a YT channel (albeit a less active one than you two), and plays in a multitude of bands. I think it would be very interesting to see him on Sounding Off. Also I adore his personality :)
Haven't even watched this, but I'm SO excited to see what you two chat about. I'll write something more meaningful when I'm done. You're my two absolute favourite music TH-camrs and I can't wait to see what you have to say! Wonderful chat, guys. Loved listening to every minute of this! Thank you for sharing. PS. Thanks for teaching me how to use the word "ambivalent" correctly, Adam; I always swoon over your wonderful use of language :)
Ok Rick, i know i wrote a comment on the Dennis Chambers Sounding off episode but holy fuck... I didn't even started watching the video yet(had to pause and write this) and immediately liked it and wrote this to tell you that you just made my day! I discovered Adam a couple of weeks ago on my suggestions and the guy has a really uncanny ability to explain advanced musical theory stuff in an entertaining, straight to the point manner on top of making things really complicated sound easier than they actually are I'm pretty sure this sounding off will be epic Keep doing those series man! I really love them!
On a second note, it would probably be a weird request to you and will probably go dismissed but i'd really love to have you discuss musical theory concepts with Ron Jarzombek Dude's not a jazz or fusion player but has a really unique approach to his instrumental songwriting I know it might account for nothing but there's a picture of him on his website besides Allan Holdsworth reading an alien looking chord chart
What separates you guys from normal people, like me, is talent. You have an on-stage presence that brings both useful information, but entertaining video instruction. So not only are you discussing a universal art form that many wish they could master, but your delivery is personal, deep, and engaging. You have succeeded at something that most people can't succeed at (and your videos on the "Fortune of Hard Work" highlights that). I'm not sure that literally "anyone" can succeed on TH-cam. As someone who has tried (and failed) I think it takes a great talent and I really appreciate your work. Cheers.
I'm following Adam now on his channel. Thanks for keeping an open mind guys and pursing music in an innovated, modern way. I'm wishing you guys the greatest success in your endeavors. Keep up the good work!
i wish i could have put these pieces together before.... ive been watching you guys over the past 7 months... you guys really are the best.... i cant thank you guys enough...... wow... thanks... thank you
Audiation... when you get a song stuck in your head and you can't stop playing it back all day. I would imagine Beethoven experienced it while awake and asleep.
I was attached to someone that played orchestral classical. In conversations, it became readily apparent how not only her performance, but her performance as a member of a section was a consideration at all times along with establishing a mood for an upcoming passage in the piece being done. Quite a contrast when held against a song that takes three minutes!
The only complaint I have about your channel Rick is that you put out so much quality information and videos in so little time that I get overwhelmed by the information. Stay awesome
Loved the conversation on Synesthesia! I did my BA dissertation on the subject and how it can be used to inspire visuals for music videos, really interesting stuff!
I too went to music college, and also believe the music "higher education bubble" will burst. Mainly because of technology development I.e. You tube education and being able to build your own home studio with really good pieces of equipment. I also found out that if you don't stay in the music city that you studied in after your degree or whatever, it is really hard to get into another music network. Excellent video chaps!
It would be tremendously great if you could get Jacob Collier for an interview! Another musician that is just out there for me, mingling with constellations. He is a beautiful soul, too ))) It's so much pleasure just watching him.
I was subscribed to both of you before finding out you knew each other. I get a lot from both channels. And now I get to see the two of you on the same video! So cool
Good Lord. How serendipitous. I feel so comfortable hearing these discussions, but I don't know anyone in real life tha'ts interested. I think about this stuff all the time.
Wow I stumbled on your channel .....Great stuff.....The fella you were talking to, the reason why he probably has a great channel also because he doesn't stop talking....He is wonderful
Hey Rick. I've got a suggestion for What Makes This Song Great-- How about "Possum Kingdom" by Todies? It has the makings of a great episode: odd time signitures; _changing_ time signitures; weird guitar chords; odd vocal melodies; etc. One of the last bastions of complicated music on pop radio back in the day.
If you guys could meet in person for a video it would be education overload. Team up with Ben Levin and you could start a School of Advanced and Abstract Music Theory. That’d be a dream come true!
I associate colours for the modes. Aeolian is red Locrian is dark blue Ionian is green Dorian is brown Phrygian is yellow Lydian is bright blue Mixolydian is dark green
RightfulFallen For me Aeolian is red, locrian is white, Ionian is light brown, Dorian is yellow, Phrygian is orange, Lydian is green, and Mixolydian is blue.
For me, the colors of the modes are the same as the note they start on to make the mode out of the white keys on the piano: Lydian/F is yellow-orange, Ionian/C is yellow, Mixolydian/G is magenta/dark pink, Dorian/D is green, Aeolian/A is red, Phrygian/E is blue, and Locrian/B is dark orange/dark blue (Maybe I associate B and F closely?)
Realy cool channel Rick ..Would you do an episode on self-taught musicians in general or for an exemple a guy like French jazz guitarist Bireli Lagrene or someone of your choice ..
Yeah, I have yet to encounter a classical pianist that can hold a steady beat. There is definitely something to different musicians feeling time differently.
It's interesting he mentions sound and color relations. Color is after all a wave... Curious if the ratios equate or divide between sound waves and light waves to a point that we could actually pick up on. Apparently he does. Not completely convinced it's a life experience that made the corolation???
first
Adam Neely But we're you first to like the video tho?
Man you are fast! Haha!!
Adam Neely more like Adam Speedy
funny, i just subbed to Rick because of your suggestion!
Adam Neely Your bass lessons are awesome and I don't even play bass! I'm play keyboard!
I agree with Adam so much on getting an education in Music. I work with a lot of other professional musicians and almost none of them don't have a degree. It's great to see somebody going against the "just take private lessons" advice!
But that might give people the wrong impression that, in order to be a good musician, you have to have a piece of paper that tells you that, which is certainly not the case. Jaco Pastorius learned how to compose and do harmony with a private teacher in tour buses and hotel rooms, for example. Was he a bad musician because he didn't have a degree in a music school? In practice, your academic degree is just a piece of paper and nothing more. What you do with the knowledge you acquired in school is more important, since your regular joe couldn't care less about your pieces of paper, but wheter your music is good or not.
Sure, I don't say that. I am just making the observation that most musicians with a job in music have a degree :)
CrimSun thats invalid for the average person considering a music career. How many jaco pastorius are there in the world? Just because the biggest musicians in the world did not get a music degree, it doesnt mean someone who wants to have musical career should follow the same thinking. Like Jens said, from his experiences, most gigging musicians have a degree, and thats a clear correlation that WILL help you.
It’s mostly due to two reasons why most people you work with have degrees. First is that those guys are session musicians and not rock stars or musicians that are “making it” by solely writing and performing their music. Second is that people you work with are I assume mostly jazz musicians which makes sense for having a degree due to its musical complexity. There is no need for a degree to solely write music other than classical or jazz/fusion. However when you’re a session musician that must have the necessary skills to be able to perform reharmonization and read sheet music on the spot as fast as possible then yes having a degree will probably be close to being necessary and certainly be very helpful. Bottom line is that it depends on what type of Musician you want to be. If you want to be a session musician or classical/Jazz musician then totally yes. If you just want to write music in a band or by yourself? Then no totally not.
@@crimsun7186 (5 years later. I hope everything is OK. And I'm not from a country where people speak fluent English or American English). OK, first; let's not talk about 'good or bad musicians'. Let's keep it simple. It is simple in daily life: if you have a degree or 'a piece of paper' with some evidence (like being approved by teachers or schools which are known), you don't have to prove every time again that you can actually do what you are trying to prove. OK? Take Jaco for instance. Can he play bass? Yes. He can prove it, with records or just simply by playing. OK. Can he be a good teacher? Maybe, but there are many musicians with terrible educational skills. Schools are schools. Not every musician wants to be a 'famous' musician, most musicians play for fun and have also other goals, like being happy married, have a predictable easy going job, healthy children and so on. Take me for example; I play music for 40 years. I have payed gigs almost every 2 weekends. I don't have the right papers (or skills) to be a professional. But people know me. I put a lot of efforts in playing music, day after day. For most bands and schools that's sufficient. There are a lot of great musicians with great skills, but are not enough predictable. My bands or pupils are not interested in the fact if I have XXX likes on TH-cam, they want me to be a predictable musician. They want someone who they can rely on. And yes; I am. And they know that because of witnesses of real people, not because of likes on TH-cam. And if I want the right papers, then I have to try to get them, like everybody. But that's OK. Besides that, I have the right papers and degrees for jobs, most teachers don't have. So the day they want to do my profession, they will have to go through all the steps I had to go. In real life, you have to earn every paper or degree. Or to prove that you can do it, day in, day out. Fair enough.
Woohoo! My two fave TH-camrs together! Btw, the deaf percussionist you mentioned is Evelyn Glennie.
Others have mentioned this before, but I love how Rick listens. Too may interviewers can't help constantly inserting themselves in the conversation.
You know how Rick is great? He lets Adam talk. You know how Adam is great? He has so much to say. Thank you, dudes!
2 of my favourite TH-camrs!! Keep up the amazing content you mad cats
two of the best music theory channels on youtube, sounding off! thanks!
You are my two most beloved youtube music channels. I really thank you for doing this!
Love you two, both of you are featured on my channel
Rick, thank you so much for this interview! Out of all musical channels on TH-cam (this is another saturated field) I watch yours and Adam's the most. So, it was a very fun watch :-) Cheers to both of you (and your incredibly talented children!) from Russia!
The two best music educators in yt today imo. Can't thank enough both of these guys for sharing their knowledge and experience with other people. It really makes my musical life change and expand. Cheers from Brazil.
A couple thoughts. Classical often abandons pulse in favor of emotion. It has been done in rock as well -Stairway to Heaven is obviously the gold standard here. 18:25 There is a shortcut to achieve a variant of this, temporarily. 36:01 The first Chill composer. Rick Beato is one of the finest interviewers I have seen. He could easily interject w/ authority at many points and yet he rarely does. A maestro on many levels.
Thumbs up if you'd like to see Rick & Adam jam together. Wouldn't that be great?
Stefano Papaleo that would be fantastic
They like jamming on theory more than music though
I'd like to see more musicians jamming online
2 amazing inspiring musicians/educators in a single video. How cool is that?!
This is the most exciting moment in my one and a half years of studying music on TH-cam as I have learned the most from the both of you.
My idea to improve audio quality: The interviewed person records his audio while talking to you and gives it afterwards to you. Therefore the noise and cracking stops.
this is good, this is how pro's do it and it sounds a million times more legit
💯 💯 💯
I listen to these interviews on my commutes to school every weekday, and cannot wait for tomorrow to listen to this one; you two are my favorite theory channels!
As a side note, have you heard of Adam's peer/friend Ben Levin? He also runs a YT channel (albeit a less active one than you two), and plays in a multitude of bands. I think it would be very interesting to see him on Sounding Off. Also I adore his personality :)
You're the best, Rick. Thank you
Awesome collaboration.
instalike for Beato + Neely
Wow two of my fav TH-cam informative music channels in one place! This was indeed insightful, cheers Rick and Adam!
Top 10 Anime Crossovers
I have seven faces, thought I knew which one to wear
I'm a big Adam Neely fan. His videos are just brilliant!
So pleased you two guys got together...makes me think this Sounding Off is gonna really take off...just imagine getting Squarepusher on here!
Haven't even watched this, but I'm SO excited to see what you two chat about. I'll write something more meaningful when I'm done. You're my two absolute favourite music TH-camrs and I can't wait to see what you have to say!
Wonderful chat, guys. Loved listening to every minute of this! Thank you for sharing.
PS. Thanks for teaching me how to use the word "ambivalent" correctly, Adam; I always swoon over your wonderful use of language :)
Ok Rick, i know i wrote a comment on the Dennis Chambers Sounding off episode but holy fuck... I didn't even started watching the video yet(had to pause and write this) and immediately liked it and wrote this to tell you that you just made my day!
I discovered Adam a couple of weeks ago on my suggestions and the guy has a really uncanny ability to explain advanced musical theory stuff in an entertaining, straight to the point manner on top of making things really complicated sound easier than they actually are
I'm pretty sure this sounding off will be epic
Keep doing those series man! I really love them!
On a second note, it would probably be a weird request to you and will probably go dismissed but i'd really love to have you discuss musical theory concepts with Ron Jarzombek
Dude's not a jazz or fusion player but has a really unique approach to his instrumental songwriting
I know it might account for nothing but there's a picture of him on his website besides Allan Holdsworth reading an alien looking chord chart
Rick Beato's face when he's listening to something he likes is just the best.
I think I'm addicted to these video series... I may or may not have binged them all in just one day. I need help Rick...
What separates you guys from normal people, like me, is talent. You have an on-stage presence that brings both useful information, but entertaining video instruction. So not only are you discussing a universal art form that many wish they could master, but your delivery is personal, deep, and engaging. You have succeeded at something that most people can't succeed at (and your videos on the "Fortune of Hard Work" highlights that). I'm not sure that literally "anyone" can succeed on TH-cam. As someone who has tried (and failed) I think it takes a great talent and I really appreciate your work. Cheers.
Wow Rick and Adam together ... I am sure Orpheus would be watching if he were around ... what a combo ... You guys rock ...!!!
The name of the the deaf percussionist is Evelyn Glennie
Two of the best musical mentors on TH-cam.
I think you should jam sometime.
I'm following Adam now on his channel. Thanks for keeping an open mind guys and pursing music in an innovated, modern way. I'm wishing you guys the greatest success in your endeavors. Keep up the good work!
Two of my favorite youtubers together!
Damn I was gonna sleep but I gotta watch this
i wish i could have put these pieces together before.... ive been watching you guys over the past 7 months... you guys really are the best.... i cant thank you guys enough...... wow... thanks... thank you
Audiation... when you get a song stuck in your head and you can't stop playing it back all day. I would imagine Beethoven experienced it while awake and asleep.
Two of my favorite people!!!🎉🎊 I m so exciting for this!!
Two of my favourite TH-cam musos in one video, fantastic
I'm a violist and I loved the video on "why classical musicians feel music differently." Adam wasn't offensive, but informative!
Brooke Mickelson yeah, neither way of feeling rhythm is better. They both just work well in their genres.
Cool...I have incredible respect for classical musicians
I was attached to someone that played orchestral classical. In conversations, it became readily apparent how not only her performance, but her performance as a member of a section was a consideration at all times along with establishing a mood for an upcoming passage in the piece being done. Quite a contrast when held against a song that takes three minutes!
Well I am subscribed with this both masters.! thank you to you both! =D
Good stuff :)
Two of my favourite music TH-camrs in a talk show!
The only complaint I have about your channel Rick is that you put out so much quality information and videos in so little time that I get overwhelmed by the information. Stay awesome
That's sooo nice to watch this and see that these 2 are really big TH-camrs now! Very inspiring
OMG best video ever (I just entered but the fact Adam is here with Rick is enough)
just commenting everyone first thought when reading the title: fuck yessss
Yep!
You can tell Rick's really enjoying this!
What's not to enjoy? Adam is the best :)
Wow Rick you shot past him haha!....but both 1Mill + well done guys!
Wow: my two favorite musical guides on one video - Thank You!!
Great! I got to Rick's channel through Adam's suggestion
ldahui, me too.
I love this kind of talk guys... I'm totally with you. Glenn Gould would love your video if he were alive :)
Great interview. Evelyn Glennie is the percussionist Adam was trying to think of.
Loved the conversation on Synesthesia! I did my BA dissertation on the subject and how it can be used to inspire visuals for music videos, really interesting stuff!
I actually enjoyed this interview more than Adam's videos. I feel that this medium allowed me to relate to Adam much more, thanks for the upload!
i love this series! thank you very much!!!!
Woo hoo! You got my subscription because of Adam Neely's video. You guys rock!
Reminds me of my childhood epic moment when watching Superman's TV series and Batman appears in it.
Mr. Beato you're the man!
Adam neely!! Yeah! 2 of my greatest youtube mentors awesome!!
Rick Beato X Adam Neely.
PERFECTION EXISTS !
Now you guys have roughly 4 times as many subscribers. Well earned!
This has gotten me more excited than the Steve Vai episode, wtf is going on
The Vsauce effect
Two of my favourite music youtubers.
Suggestions for future guests:
- Jacob Collier
- Brandon Ridenour
- That Viola Kid
Hi Adam, I remember you!! Congratulations on your success!!
Loved this episode!
I too went to music college, and also believe the music "higher education bubble" will burst. Mainly because of technology development I.e. You tube education and being able to build your own home studio with really good pieces of equipment. I also found out that if you don't stay in the music city that you studied in after your degree or whatever, it is really hard to get into another music network. Excellent video chaps!
So cool! Do you think you could get Jacob Collier on Sounding Off?
Yes, I will get Jacob Collier
Rick you are my hero
That would be unreal!
just thought about that
This, please.
It would be tremendously great if you could get Jacob Collier for an interview! Another musician that is just out there for me, mingling with constellations. He is a beautiful soul, too ))) It's so much pleasure just watching him.
Could you get Rick Graham or Mateus Asato on sounding off?
Zac Flasch yes yes yes!!!
too bad some of the audio cuts out, but love it. Good questions good answers and good incites.
I was subscribed to both of you before finding out you knew each other. I get a lot from both channels. And now I get to see the two of you on the same video! So cool
Perfect combo!
Good Lord. How serendipitous. I feel so comfortable hearing these discussions, but I don't know anyone in real life tha'ts interested. I think about this stuff all the time.
that's. DOH!
keep it up guys, hearing & seeing both of you conversing topics like this is awesome. Thanks for sharing your knowledge to everyone.
Wow I stumbled on your channel .....Great stuff.....The fella you were talking to, the reason why he probably has a great channel also because he
doesn't stop talking....He is wonderful
Just said "REALLY?" loud and started laughing as soon as I saw the video title
This is amazing! I'd like to ask you Rick, do you know Troy Grady? I'd love to see you two talk about guitar playing and music in general.
Hey Rick. I've got a suggestion for What Makes This Song Great-- How about "Possum Kingdom" by Todies? It has the makings of a great episode: odd time signitures; _changing_ time signitures; weird guitar chords; odd vocal melodies; etc.
One of the last bastions of complicated music on pop radio back in the day.
so cool you invited him to this! I came here because of him
Ben Levin! Get Ben Levin on here!
8:40 Gave this a like just because I adore Charles Mingus's music as well!
You guys IN THE SAME VIDEO! ...for the win!
And now I have "Friday, I'm in love" in my head... I don't care if Sunday's blue...
If you guys could meet in person for a video it would be education overload. Team up with Ben Levin and you could start a School of Advanced and Abstract Music Theory.
That’d be a dream come true!
I associate colours for the modes.
Aeolian is red
Locrian is dark blue
Ionian is green
Dorian is brown
Phrygian is yellow
Lydian is bright blue
Mixolydian is dark green
RightfulFallen For me Aeolian is red, locrian is white, Ionian is light brown, Dorian is yellow, Phrygian is orange, Lydian is green, and Mixolydian is blue.
For me, the colors of the modes are the same as the note they start on to make the mode out of the white keys on the piano:
Lydian/F is yellow-orange,
Ionian/C is yellow,
Mixolydian/G is magenta/dark pink,
Dorian/D is green,
Aeolian/A is red,
Phrygian/E is blue, and
Locrian/B is dark orange/dark blue (Maybe I associate B and F closely?)
Both myself and my synthesia agree!
Two of my faves!!!😍😍😍
Realy cool channel Rick ..Would you do an episode on self-taught musicians in general or for an exemple a guy like French jazz guitarist Bireli Lagrene or someone of your choice ..
Daaaamn! Two of my most favourite youtubers team up! :D
Yeah, I have yet to encounter a classical pianist that can hold a steady beat. There is definitely something to different musicians feeling time differently.
AmaZing!!!
Name a more iconic duo, I'll wait
It's interesting he mentions sound and color relations. Color is after all a wave... Curious if the ratios equate or divide between sound waves and light waves to a point that we could actually pick up on. Apparently he does.
Not completely convinced it's a life experience that made the corolation???
Nice!
When the two smart kids in class have a discussion
Nice work, as usual!
wow, both of you grow some much in a year.
my two favourite youtubers (other than glenn fricker) in one video! this is great!
Tim Worley Wait until later today :)
:O
The deaf percussionist is Evelyn Glennie! Absolute genious.
my reaction to this video was literally "oh shit!"