First mud tires I had were nitto mud grapplers and they were super loud. Then installed trail grapplers, very quiet. I recommend to anyone to buy trail grapplers. Great tread life and no flats ever. Screws and nails just get stuck in the lugs.
your right I have 35 12.50 20 mud grapps on one truck and same size trail grapps on the other,night and day difference.winner trail grappler from sure.
I would never say Trail Grapplers were 'quiet'. Have ran both 33s and 35s and they're easily one of the loudest tires below the mud grappler. Amazing tire though and would recommend them to anyone simply because of the durability and SLOW tread wear.
I had nitto mud grapplers, then trail grapplers. Mud grapplers were crazy loud, and handled no better in the mud than the trail grappler. Trail grapplers are the way to go. No where near as noisy. The Toyo MT flat out sucks. Yeah its quiet, but clogs up off road. Toyo MT doesn't even compare to the trail grappler off road. Also trail grapplers will last twice as long as the mall crawler toyo MT. You get what you pay for.
I bought a set of Atturo Trailblade MTs 33x12.5 and i absolutely love them. No bulging, no vibrating at any speed and they all balanced perfectly. For wheels i went with 20"x9" -1 (0) offset Fuel Mavericks and they're mounted on a 2008 GMC Sierra on 3.5 inches of lift. I've got roughly 8k miles on them with rotation every 3k and like i mentioned before ZERO issues at all. Couldn't be happier.
I had the tyco bandit as well growing up in the 80s. I believe sants aka my mom got it at toysrus because I remember going there and showing her it in the display. Loved that thing. Was my favorite radio control
Hands down my favorite that has never failed me and got nearly 80k miles out of Firestone Destination MT's. Real world tested against popular name brands on other vehicles in the 4wheel club I was in they out performed both on rock and southern clay mud. To add another tidbit is most MT's are rated at speed rating of Q which means the compound will remain stable up to and slightly above 80 mph. They can overheat and start mushrooming the tread blocks.
I run Mickey Thompson MTZ 35's on my Jeep. It is my DD but also off road a lot also. I love the vibration and probably the only person who can't get enough of the loud sound. Like music to my ears.
I have the mud swampers and I love them . I love the loud sound 🔊 it puts a smile on my face. 33 x 12 x 20 on my 2017 ram 1500'4wheel drive .blacked out
Can't wait to receive my wheels and tires that I've recently ordered .... before I found you guys ....I've been getting quotes from everywhere and NO!!!!! ONE!! can beat your prices and trust me I've searched.... love the videos you guys do keep it going good business👌👌 A1 100%
I put the ToYo on my 2015 f150 and sold it at 80 thousand the tires were on the truck for 63421 and were rotated 35s. They had at least 30 percent when I sold the truck. I'll put the same on my 2018 f250. Had to watch the video. Thanks guys. Love peace and chicken grease...
I have a kenda klever mt and I love it had them over 4 years and over 25,000 miles on them(don’t drive it often) and never had a minutes trouble with them they come out to 33/11.5/16 on stocks and never worn weird or bulged or anything and super cheap definitely recommend to anyone 👍🏼
Awesome video! thanks for taking your valuable personal time to produce a video like this,,i enjoy all your video's and especially the "shit i never knew" series but spending the time you did to produce this half hour version in such great detail on a subject were ALL interested in was a real treat,,i learn something new every time i watch one of your video's..and next time i need tires i'll give you guys my business..
Anyone watching this and leaning towards the more expensive I've had the courages for a little over a year now with no problems at all...I work at a tire and rim shop so I keep up with them but still they are defiantly worth the money and they have worn awesome, no bubbles or separation I would deffinatly buy them again!! Federal courage
HI guy,, this is my first post. I have been the owner of a tire company 32 years have designed some largeer truck tires in my day. The void area in the federal causes alot of wear ration issues. The tire with tightest tread patter and a big thing with the better quality is the bead area is recessed some beads are triangle some oblong some round. A huge thing with some tires is tread compound if you will notice with the two cheaper tires the rubber looks plastic due to less natural rubber . Natural rubber balances well !
I just bought a set of the Toyo's. Love them. Never used the other 3 brands. Previous set were Mastercraft M/T, they were good for the money, terrible in snow, but mud, dirt, and rocks ok.
Love the lettering on the rim. Should send me a set of 4 and I’ll advertise here in Canada for you. Lmao. Hurry before the coronavirus gets us all. Be well and stay healthy.
This is a excellent video. I'm fairly new to the lifted truck scene and was really confused on the tires and what type I should buy. Thanks to this video it has made my decision so much easier. Thank you guys for making this video and allowing to make an better decision. Keep up the great work.
First set of tires was a set of Mickey Thompson Deegan 38s. Absolutely love them, did wear uneven, but thats because of the truck they were on. Only spent a grand on all 5. Been on 2 of my vehicles and work great
bought my setup exactly a year ago from you with 35 12.5 r20 federals and I have put a stupid amount of miles my truck since I put those tires on them and I still get asked if they are new! also pull really good offroad, I had a lot of people try and talk me out the Federals but I recommend them and I have them on a 09 f150 with a 6 inch lift
I bought a rim/tire package several months ago for my 2018 Silverado. I decided to go with the Ironman All Country MT's due to I only drive my truck a couple times a week. I would have went with a more expensive tire if it would've been a daily driver. So far I like the tires.
Mickey Thompson MTZ P3 are my favorite, they have that aggressive mud tire look but have the AT sound and drive feel I’ll never go back to the Toyo that I personally thought was the best before I tried the MTZ
I've been running Firestones M/T for 10,000 miles now and the tread looks brand new still and I do a lot of highway driving during he week. They are also quiet for M/T in my opinion. Side wall has plenty of bite and they have rim protection! Best part they are great in the mud and in other off road terrain. The only one I haven't had to try them in is snow and ice. Other reviews said they were fine though. I go fishing and hunting a lot in GA and NC on the weekends and have had no issues with uneven tread ware or alignment issues. 285-65-R18 height is actually 32.92 inches tall and the width is about 9 1/2 inches ride. They do have bigger though. I also found a set of four for 900 bucks!
We had a set of Toyo open country m/t on an 06 Silverado they were 35" and they lasted for a long long time with proper rotation but the traction in snow, mud, and even rain sucked. Now we have the trail graps on a '12 Silverado and they wear slowly as well and the traction is amazing. The nittios were well worth the money
i personally have the Atturo trail blade boss and i love them! If you are not aware of what the boss is, its a more aggressive version of the MT version. One cool thing i like about them are that the tread pattern has knifes in them!!
Great review guys...I'm from Las Vegas, and we learn pretty quick to pay attention to tires and batteries in our extreme heat and desert environment...You basically just put the last nail in the coffin (expertly I might add) about tires...Along with Discoverer STT Pros, the Nitto and Toyo are THE tires of choice for those who off road routinely...Of those, I continually hear that STT Pros are the quiestest on road...One difference that's worth mentioning, is the Nitto MG in the 37x13.5xR17 are like Pitbulls in that they are actually 37.05 tall, so that's a good gain (.5 inch or more over most 37s).
He said it perfectly. Buy a 5th tire if it's that big of a deal. It's always good to have a spare and then if one goes to shit, you can pop it on while dealing with the warranty fun
I had federal, and I had the bulge or band break while on the freeway and it blew apart like crazy and it was new. Plus they're super loud. I've had my Nitto trail graps, for over 50,000 miles with lots of burnouts, and I still have tons of tread left. NITTO
I had a tire separate on my last set of Toyos, I had about 30k miles on the set when it happened so they weren't new but still happened. Got a set of Aturros this go around and have been happy with them only have about 1k miles on them and like them a lot so far, really good at throwing rocks at my Tahoe.
I've had Nitto Terra and Trail Grapplers. Definitely different rides and Trail Grapples Uber heavy....but they look awesome! Yokohama Geolandar looks great AND great ride.
I have the Toyo Open Country M/T 35x18x12.5 and will get over 50k out of them! They handle offroad amazing and smooth on road! Would never even consider another brand.
Adam Austin I have same exact tires on my truck and have right at 50k miles on them and will probably get another 20k out of them. It's all about how you care for them.
11:55 truck i bought has fedral m/ts on em, previous owner had them over inflated so the middle of the tires have almost no tread while the outter edges look ok.
i own the nitto trail grappelers and i absolutely love it. had it for almost a year and no problem with it. thank you custom offset for giving me such a grat deal. if you buy a cheap tire you will have some problems. like they said you get what ypu paid for. peace
reply I run 35 12.50 20s,nitto trial grappler on one and nitto mud grappler on the other,great tires,going on 3 years and 35000 on the nitto trails and never a problem,just had to rebalnce one time,and 30 thousand on the nitto muds and they are a bit more wore out and I have had only 2 years and I pulled a nail recently.dam good tires,trails are better in my opinion but both are solid tires,
I run Toyo open country C/T on my truck. You should do a review on those. Very similar to the R/T. I couldn't be happier. Very smooth and quiet, yet still very aggressive tread. Also has 3-peak winter rating for snow/ice! Great vids, keep em comin
those federals pull. They were the best mud tires i have ever owned as far as how they performed offload. they held up well on my tacoma. not sure how they would last on a full size truck. I never had any problems with them. i put 30,000 miles on them and had half the tread left when i sold the truck without rotating them. they could have easily gone another 25-30k miles.
I just want to say I love the videos you guys do. They are extremely informative, y’all are always cracking jokes which makes them entertaining to watch and the attention to detail in each one is unsurpassed, keep them coming! Also, could you please tell me the name of the song that’s playing in this video and who sings it? You guys use it a lot in your videos and I love it. It’s the perfect song to rock out to while hitting the weights in the gym. Thanks again.
Nittos got 60000 no rotation. Fyi I never rotate. Never never never. Only reason to rotate radials. Is if you are cornering aggressively, burnouts, or issues with front or rear alignment. Rebalancing is good. Don't believe me it's fine but I normally get more miles than most ppl I know.
Paul Lewis rotating your tires helps prevent cupping, and helps aid in the longevity of your tires. Rotating them will keep an even tread wear. Same with tire pressure.
I have a set of 33/12.50-18 Toyo open country on my 2008 z71. daily driver some off roading. I have 57,000 miles on them and it looks like I can get 10k more miles. smooth ride and no vibration when breaking. I rotate my tires every oil change 5k miles. Toyo is worth the money!
I run BFG MT series 1.... 35k on them and still 3/4 tread... street and trail driving... BFG AT on other two trucks... 20K on both of them... still look new... Rotate and air up according to tire spec not OEM tire spec... keep them balanced (at least once a year re-balance)
I currently have the atturo's. I bought a wheel and tire package online and the tires came out so far out of balance. took it to the local shop they put 9 oz of weight in one tire to get it right.. the wheel looks like it's plastered with wheel weights. they ride decent now and are pretty solid off road but I will definitely be going back to the Cooper stt's when these are worn out.
i have 51k miles on my 35/1250r20 nitto trail grapplers on a 1500 lifted ram -- they are just now at the wear bares and need to be replaced -- but i was very surprised at how long they last with 5k mile rotations -- i also have balancing beads to balance the tire ( same as what semis use) and i think that is key to tire life and a smooth ride on a larger tire .. just my 2 cents -- thanks CO will buy my next set from you as well
I believe that it is the offset of the wheel pulling the truck right or left. This happens more on asphalt roads that have been warped over time and there is kind of a valleyed two-track in the road. I had fat street tires with an aggressive offset and they pulled on warped roads when the truck was not centered in the lane. I don't think it pulls just because of the heavy lugs. A zero offset would pull less to the outside.
I have had the toyo mt, goodyear mt, bfg at, and the federals on my 1 ton chevy and had out of round or broken belts/shaking issues with all of the higher end tires, the only issue I had with the federals was after 30k the started to become very loud on the high way and got a lot of torque cracking on the tread, had since switch to the cooper ats and they are great in all aspects so far with 10k on them.
I am a big fan of the Fuel Gripper M/T. What are your thoughts. They seem to be quiet and handle the snow really well. I live in the midwest not to far from chicago but in corn fields.
I've seen videos of Toyo mud terrains going 50k miles with plenty of tread left for maybe another yr. When what Toyo says is they go for 45k miles and then u have to get new ones. So I think I might go with the toyos
Run Toyo 35 all the time 30,000 tops. Lots of logging roads.. Have a set of Federals studded swapped out 3 seasons far.. Les Schwab always takes care of us
Great offroad and complete trash every where else. I sell Gladiators and they just don't hold up. Very loud, chop really easily, and not a very good ride. But they pull like crazy. Belts aren't as likely to break as a Federal either.
I run the gladiator xcomp on my truck I have a 33x12.5x20 and ive rotated every 3,000 miles and they have gotten louder over time, and absolutely don't wear even I've put 12,000 miles on them and will say I won't purchase them again
TSL Super Swampers...The only true mud tire, all these fill up with one rotation in real mud, Swampers sling it out and dig in...there not cheep and their loud, drive on hard roads and they'll wear out fast, drive in mud and they last and they work.
rotated my old Nitto trail grapplers twice got about 42k on them with about 3k+ more left. I have atturo X/Ts and have about 6k on them and they haven't even worn a bit, no joke
as for the "out of balance" issue, maybe the front ends were not built up enough(replacing worn tie rods, bad joints) for the weigh of the wheel &tire combo?
That and the entire suspension is wrong for these wheels/tires. The wheel bearing center is designed to match the tire center on OEM wheels. The wide wheels with low back spacing moves the center of effort way outside of the center of the wheel bearings. The result is that the steering will never be balanced. The bearings will wear out quickly. Steering parts will wear quickly, etc. The proper way to have a wider stance is to use a long travel kit to move the actual wheel mounting face outward by using longer control arms then use a wheel with appropriate backspacing. This is expensive and most people won't pay to do it the "right" way. If you wanted increase the outside tire width by say 4 inches per side and your new tires/wheels are 4 inches wider than stock, you should be using a "plus 2" long travel kit to move the wheel mounting surface out 2 inches, and then select wheels with the same offset (not back spacing) as the OEM wheels, and split the extra 4 inches of wheel/tire width on each side of the bearing center. Then it would track straight and you wouldn't have a vehicle that wants to dart left or right when it hits a pothole. But as I said - it's expensive to do it right. So most people don't. Heck most shops don't even know how to do it right or why. The problem is not the tires. It's the geometry. Mud tires can track perfectly straight. Just put them on the correct wheels for the vehicle.
I actually had Trailblade XTs on my sequoia (I bought them from Custom Offsets) but I had an out of round issue on 3 tires. I decided to go to the Nitto Ridge Grappler. It is an absolute win. The Nittos are 100% better. I just wish I didn't go cheap the first time. You can check my Sequoia out on their website.
D Car purchased a set from custom offsets and the only complaint I have with them is like Shawn said, they run narrow. I went from Nitro trail grapplers 285/65-18 to the atturo xt 285/65-18 add lost a good 1-1/4" in width. Doesn't sound like much, but you can definitely see it.
I took your advice and I gotta say the federal 33 looks awesome as decoration in my bedroom next to my bunk beds.
Justin Thomison mines a decoration in my garage because I’ve been sent multiple incomplete orders CO....My first impression with CO isn’t very good.
You are the first man with a sole patch I have ever trusted... I hope I'm not disappointed
Lol
First mud tires I had were nitto mud grapplers and they were super loud. Then installed trail grapplers, very quiet. I recommend to anyone to buy trail grapplers. Great tread life and no flats ever. Screws and nails just get stuck in the lugs.
your right I have 35 12.50 20 mud grapps on one truck and same size trail grapps on the other,night and day difference.winner trail grappler from sure.
I would never say Trail Grapplers were 'quiet'. Have ran both 33s and 35s and they're easily one of the loudest tires below the mud grappler. Amazing tire though and would recommend them to anyone simply because of the durability and SLOW tread wear.
I had nitto mud grapplers, then trail grapplers. Mud grapplers were crazy loud, and handled no better in the mud than the trail grappler. Trail grapplers are the way to go. No where near as noisy.
The Toyo MT flat out sucks. Yeah its quiet, but clogs up off road. Toyo MT doesn't even compare to the trail grappler off road. Also trail grapplers will last twice as long as the mall crawler toyo MT. You get what you pay for.
I bought a set of Atturo Trailblade MTs 33x12.5 and i absolutely love them. No bulging, no vibrating at any speed and they all balanced perfectly. For wheels i went with 20"x9" -1 (0) offset Fuel Mavericks and they're mounted on a 2008 GMC Sierra on 3.5 inches of lift. I've got roughly 8k miles on them with rotation every 3k and like i mentioned before ZERO issues at all. Couldn't be happier.
Every word of this is true and real! Yall listen up! Preaching it bud!
Thanks guys!! I appreciate ya'll so much!!👍🏼
I had the tyco bandit as well growing up in the 80s. I believe sants aka my mom got it at toysrus because I remember going there and showing her it in the display. Loved that thing. Was my favorite radio control
"buy an extra one, itl look cool next to ur bunk bed" lol
lol i was dying when i heard that
Kevin Bowman lol for real. savage
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Hands down my favorite that has never failed me and got nearly 80k miles out of Firestone Destination MT's. Real world tested against popular name brands on other vehicles in the 4wheel club I was in they out performed both on rock and southern clay mud. To add another tidbit is most MT's are rated at speed rating of Q which means the compound will remain stable up to and slightly above 80 mph. They can overheat and start mushrooming the tread blocks.
I run Mickey Thompson MTZ 35's on my Jeep. It is my DD but also off road a lot also. I love the vibration and probably the only person who can't get enough of the loud sound. Like music to my ears.
We can definitely relate to loving the sound of the tire "humm"!
I have the mud swampers and I love them . I love the loud sound 🔊 it puts a smile on my face. 33 x 12 x 20 on my 2017 ram 1500'4wheel drive .blacked out
"Fueller, we almost hit that car..." 27:58 XD
Can't wait to receive my wheels and tires that I've recently ordered .... before I found you guys ....I've been getting quotes from everywhere and NO!!!!! ONE!! can beat your prices and trust me I've searched.... love the videos you guys do keep it going good business👌👌 A1 100%
I put the ToYo on my 2015 f150 and sold it at 80 thousand the tires were on the truck for 63421 and were rotated 35s. They had at least 30 percent when I sold the truck. I'll put the same on my 2018 f250. Had to watch the video. Thanks guys. Love peace and chicken grease...
This is One of the Best Video's Ive ever Seen ...............Very Informative and descriptive
I have a kenda klever mt and I love it had them over 4 years and over 25,000 miles on them(don’t drive it often) and never had a minutes trouble with them they come out to 33/11.5/16 on stocks and never worn weird or bulged or anything and super cheap definitely recommend to anyone 👍🏼
Awesome video! thanks for taking your valuable personal time to produce a video like this,,i enjoy all your video's and especially the "shit i never knew" series but spending the time you did to produce this half hour version in such great detail on a subject were ALL interested in was a real treat,,i learn something new every time i watch one of your video's..and next time i need tires i'll give you guys my business..
Had toyo 275 70 17 and loved them, guy at work had federal and had no problems..... im looking at the cooper stt pro for my next set
Anyone watching this and leaning towards the more expensive I've had the courages for a little over a year now with no problems at all...I work at a tire and rim shop so I keep up with them but still they are defiantly worth the money and they have worn awesome, no bubbles or separation I would deffinatly buy them again!! Federal courage
HI guy,, this is my first post. I have been the owner of a tire company 32 years have designed some largeer truck tires in my day. The void area in the federal causes alot of wear ration issues. The tire with tightest tread patter and a big thing with the better quality is the bead area is recessed some beads are triangle some oblong some round. A huge thing with some tires is tread compound if you will notice with the two cheaper tires the rubber looks plastic due to less natural rubber . Natural rubber balances well !
I just bought a set of the Toyo's. Love them. Never used the other 3 brands. Previous set were Mastercraft M/T, they were good for the money, terrible in snow, but mud, dirt, and rocks ok.
Love the lettering on the rim. Should send me a set of 4 and I’ll advertise here in Canada for you. Lmao. Hurry before the coronavirus gets us all. Be well and stay healthy.
"buy another one because it'll look sweet next to your bunk beds" lmao! haha
The trail blade tires have been awesome for me. Run them all 4 seasons for 2 years w/o issue and they've seen it all.
This is a excellent video. I'm fairly new to the lifted truck scene and was really confused on the tires and what type I should buy. Thanks to this video it has made my decision so much easier. Thank you guys for making this video and allowing to make an better decision. Keep up the great work.
I did alot or research before buying my first set of M/T's and u helped with the last 5 of the 95% of what to expect so for that I thank you.
I got my 35 nittos from yall. Never had a problem. Other then the rubbing under load lol. Thanks I'm happy
First set of tires was a set of Mickey Thompson Deegan 38s. Absolutely love them, did wear uneven, but thats because of the truck they were on. Only spent a grand on all 5. Been on 2 of my vehicles and work great
bought my setup exactly a year ago from you with 35 12.5 r20 federals and I have put a stupid amount of miles my truck since I put those tires on them and I still get asked if they are new! also pull really good offroad, I had a lot of people try and talk me out the Federals but I recommend them and I have them on a 09 f150 with a 6 inch lift
Thanks for doing this comparison. It helps a lot in seeing the price difference as well as the differenced of each tire.
I bought a rim/tire package several months ago for my 2018 Silverado. I decided to go with the Ironman All Country MT's due to I only drive my truck a couple times a week. I would have went with a more expensive tire if it would've been a daily driver. So far I like the tires.
Mickey Thompson MTZ P3 are my favorite, they have that aggressive mud tire look but have the AT sound and drive feel I’ll never go back to the Toyo that I personally thought was the best before I tried the MTZ
I've been running Firestones M/T for 10,000 miles now and the tread looks brand new still and I do a lot of highway driving during he week. They are also quiet for M/T in my opinion. Side wall has plenty of bite and they have rim protection! Best part they are great in the mud and in other off road terrain. The only one I haven't had to try them in is snow and ice. Other reviews said they were fine though. I go fishing and hunting a lot in GA and NC on the weekends and have had no issues with uneven tread ware or alignment issues. 285-65-R18 height is actually 32.92 inches tall and the width is about 9 1/2 inches ride. They do have bigger though. I also found a set of four for 900 bucks!
This was an excellent video and answered many questions about purchasing 20 inch truck tires. Thanks for all the help…!!!
Great video as always, thanks for taking the time to put out good, no BS information.
Great Job showcasing the tires comparison. I appreciate you sharing!
We had a set of Toyo open country m/t on an 06 Silverado they were 35" and they lasted for a long long time with proper rotation but the traction in snow, mud, and even rain sucked. Now we have the trail graps on a '12 Silverado and they wear slowly as well and the traction is amazing. The nittios were well worth the money
i personally have the Atturo trail blade boss and i love them! If you are not aware of what the boss is, its a more aggressive version of the MT version. One cool thing i like about them are that the tread pattern has knifes in them!!
Great review guys...I'm from Las Vegas, and we learn pretty quick to pay attention to tires and batteries in our extreme heat and desert environment...You basically just put the last nail in the coffin (expertly I might add) about tires...Along with Discoverer STT Pros, the Nitto and Toyo are THE tires of choice for those who off road routinely...Of those, I continually hear that STT Pros are the quiestest on road...One difference that's worth mentioning, is the Nitto MG in the 37x13.5xR17 are like Pitbulls in that they are actually 37.05 tall, so that's a good gain (.5 inch or more over most 37s).
He said it perfectly. Buy a 5th tire if it's that big of a deal. It's always good to have a spare and then if one goes to shit, you can pop it on while dealing with the warranty fun
what about the cooper stt pros I love those tires
I had federal, and I had the bulge or band break while on the freeway and it blew apart like crazy and it was new. Plus they're super loud. I've had my Nitto trail graps, for over 50,000 miles with lots of burnouts, and I still have tons of tread left. NITTO
I had a tire separate on my last set of Toyos, I had about 30k miles on the set when it happened so they weren't new but still happened. Got a set of Aturros this go around and have been happy with them only have about 1k miles on them and like them a lot so far, really good at throwing rocks at my Tahoe.
That was an awesome video. I know have a little more confidence when I get my truck to pick out the right tires . Love your videos !!
Thanks for the support!
I have nittos trails on my truck..getting a new pair soon..love them
I've ran a lot of different mud tires I like the Cooper stt pros the most
Good Video my friend, it is certainly helping me chose my tires for my truck build
72k on 37/14.50/15 Open County. Fixing to get another set and have an alignment done.
I've had Nitto Terra and Trail Grapplers. Definitely different rides and Trail Grapples Uber heavy....but they look awesome! Yokohama Geolandar looks great AND great ride.
I have the Toyo Open Country M/T 35x18x12.5 and will get over 50k out of them! They handle offroad amazing and smooth on road! Would never even consider another brand.
Adam Austin I have same exact tires on my truck and have right at 50k miles on them and will probably get another 20k out of them. It's all about how you care for them.
Mtullos86 very true..rotate every 5k. Run correct air pressure. Which is 28psi cold and 31psi warm
I got over 70k miles out of my Toyo m/t and thats with a lot of miles towing a 35 foot toy hauler. My favorite tires but so expensive.
Are toyo open countries loud on the highway ?
For a M/T they are very quite. I'd say some A/T tires are louder than these.
11:55 truck i bought has fedral m/ts on em, previous owner had them over inflated so the middle of the tires have almost no tread while the outter edges look ok.
Awesome video, always learn alot of sh*t i never new with you guys. Keep the longer videos coming
i own the nitto trail grappelers and i absolutely love it. had it for almost a year and no problem with it. thank you custom offset for giving me such a grat deal. if you buy a cheap tire you will have some problems. like they said you get what ypu paid for. peace
reply I run 35 12.50 20s,nitto trial grappler on one and nitto mud grappler on the other,great tires,going on 3 years and 35000 on the nitto trails and never a problem,just had to rebalnce one time,and 30 thousand on the nitto muds and they are a bit more wore out and I have had only 2 years and I pulled a nail recently.dam good tires,trails are better in my opinion but both are solid tires,
It's the 20" rim that is killing the wallet.....
If it’s killing your wallet then just save up some more......
I run Toyo open country C/T on my truck. You should do a review on those. Very similar to the R/T. I couldn't be happier. Very smooth and quiet, yet still very aggressive tread. Also has 3-peak winter rating for snow/ice! Great vids, keep em comin
those federals pull. They were the best mud tires i have ever owned as far as how they performed offload. they held up well on my tacoma. not sure how they would last on a full size truck. I never had any problems with them. i put 30,000 miles on them and had half the tread left when i sold the truck without rotating them. they could have easily gone another 25-30k miles.
This video alone. Helped me make my decision. Nitto Trail Grapler. Here I come...
Great choice! Check out the Nitto Trail Grappler here!
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I just want to say I love the videos you guys do. They are extremely informative, y’all are always cracking jokes which makes them entertaining to watch and the attention to detail in each one is unsurpassed, keep them coming! Also, could you please tell me the name of the song that’s playing in this video and who sings it? You guys use it a lot in your videos and I love it. It’s the perfect song to rock out to while hitting the weights in the gym. Thanks again.
Thanks for your support!! Also that video is pretty old and we aren't sure what song that is, Sorry man!
"Keep it in your room because it'll look sick next to your bunk beds" LMAO
Super informative, I ran a set of Courigas on my F150 got about 32k
in a month or so id be getting a f150
i been doing so much research on mods and i found now that i can get what i want for much less
thanks.
I have those Nitto MT 295/70 R 18 on my truck and they're awesome
good summary from across all points of view. That helped alot!
Excellent info, thanks. Just a tip: when you have special guests on your show you should let them talk a little.
love the longer video. worth the time to watch.
Nitto Terra Grappler G2 on a Ford F250 SD. 50k + every time. Love them!
Nittos got 60000 no rotation.
Fyi I never rotate. Never never never. Only reason to rotate radials. Is if you are cornering aggressively, burnouts, or issues with front or rear alignment.
Rebalancing is good. Don't believe me it's fine but I normally get more miles than most ppl I know.
Paul Lewis rotating your tires helps prevent cupping, and helps aid in the longevity of your tires. Rotating them will keep an even tread wear. Same with tire pressure.
I have a set of 33/12.50-18 Toyo open country on my 2008 z71. daily driver some off roading. I have 57,000 miles on them and it looks like I can get 10k more miles. smooth ride and no vibration when breaking. I rotate my tires every oil change 5k miles. Toyo is worth the money!
Always loved Cooper tires
MrBlurberries Yes! 100% agree.
Yep and made in USA!
Better and cheaper than Toyo. I’m running a set of 315/75r16s on my f250 and have put 50,000 miles on them and I still have 30% tread left great tires
I run BFG MT series 1.... 35k on them and still 3/4 tread... street and trail driving... BFG AT on other two trucks... 20K on both of them... still look new...
Rotate and air up according to tire spec not OEM tire spec... keep them balanced (at least once a year re-balance)
Greg Burnside bullshit.
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I currently have the atturo's. I bought a wheel and tire package online and the tires came out so far out of balance. took it to the local shop they put 9 oz of weight in one tire to get it right.. the wheel looks like it's plastered with wheel weights. they ride decent now and are pretty solid off road but I will definitely be going back to the Cooper stt's when these are worn out.
Thank you for all the hard work , helped me decide what i want ,for sure bro,
Looking forward to the hybrid reviews. I been running Nitto Ridge Grapplers on my truck and love them.
i have 51k miles on my 35/1250r20 nitto trail grapplers on a 1500 lifted ram -- they are just now at the wear bares and need to be replaced -- but i was very surprised at how long they last with 5k mile rotations -- i also have balancing beads to balance the tire ( same as what semis use) and i think that is key to tire life and a smooth ride on a larger tire .. just my 2 cents -- thanks CO will buy my next set from you as well
An all terrain video would be awesome too! Like the Toyo AT2, Nitto Terra G2, Arturo XT, and ??? Just whatever people are buying!
I believe that it is the offset of the wheel pulling the truck right or left. This happens more on asphalt roads that have been warped over time and there is kind of a valleyed two-track in the road. I had fat street tires with an aggressive offset and they pulled on warped roads when the truck was not centered in the lane. I don't think it pulls just because of the heavy lugs. A zero offset would pull less to the outside.
I rotate every oil change. I dig the federals. Road noise doesnt bother me. I have exhaust dumped under the cab.
Loved it, keep them coming, I'm learning alot. Thank you!!!!
great video man . All you guys are great . lots of info thank you
Just found you guys on the web. Great video!
I have had the toyo mt, goodyear mt, bfg at, and the federals on my 1 ton chevy and had out of round or broken belts/shaking issues with all of the higher end tires, the only issue I had with the federals was after 30k the started to become very loud on the high way and got a lot of torque cracking on the tread, had since switch to the cooper ats and they are great in all aspects so far with 10k on them.
I am a big fan of the Fuel Gripper M/T. What are your thoughts. They seem to be quiet and handle the snow really well. I live in the midwest not to far from chicago but in corn fields.
toyo's are the best all around. sound traction looks, I love em. even on ice they are good enough.
I've seen videos of Toyo mud terrains going 50k miles with plenty of tread left for maybe another yr. When what Toyo says is they go for 45k miles and then u have to get new ones. So I think I might go with the toyos
Run Toyo 35 all the time 30,000 tops. Lots of logging roads.. Have a set of Federals studded swapped out 3 seasons far.. Les Schwab always takes care of us
Love my trail graps! Yeah they are pricey but if you got the extra bucks to throw then do it and you won't regret it!!!
love the video! tons of good info. keep em coming
Cooper stt pros!!! surprisingly quiet and amazing handling all around!!! running 35's on my Dodge ram 2500.
can you guys do the general grabber at2 and bfg ko2 I got the at2s now and love them mines 33x12.5
Have to review the Gladiator XComp... Best looking mud terrain out right now!
Burt Jenner yessssss
Great offroad and complete trash every where else. I sell Gladiators and they just don't hold up. Very loud, chop really easily, and not a very good ride. But they pull like crazy. Belts aren't as likely to break as a Federal either.
I run the gladiator xcomp on my truck I have a 33x12.5x20 and ive rotated every 3,000 miles and they have gotten louder over time, and absolutely don't wear even I've put 12,000 miles on them and will say I won't purchase them again
Just what I wanted to know. All the details. Thanks! I went with 35” ProComp M/T k2 on my last truck. On my new truck it will be 37” Toyo.
How do you like the Toyo compared to the ProComp?
Thanks for sharing the info. I learned a lot from this video.
TSL Super Swampers...The only true mud tire, all these fill up with one rotation in real mud, Swampers sling it out and dig in...there not cheep and their loud, drive on hard roads and they'll wear out fast, drive in mud and they last and they work.
I had a pair of 38" super swamper tsl radials make it almost 30000 miles I loved them
rotated my old Nitto trail grapplers twice got about 42k on them with about 3k+ more left. I have atturo X/Ts and have about 6k on them and they haven't even worn a bit, no joke
geat review! Thanks, Can you review Coopers Stx versus coopers muddies?
as for the "out of balance" issue, maybe the front ends were not built up enough(replacing worn tie rods, bad joints) for the weigh of the wheel &tire combo?
That and the entire suspension is wrong for these wheels/tires. The wheel bearing center is designed to match the tire center on OEM wheels. The wide wheels with low back spacing moves the center of effort way outside of the center of the wheel bearings. The result is that the steering will never be balanced. The bearings will wear out quickly. Steering parts will wear quickly, etc. The proper way to have a wider stance is to use a long travel kit to move the actual wheel mounting face outward by using longer control arms then use a wheel with appropriate backspacing. This is expensive and most people won't pay to do it the "right" way. If you wanted increase the outside tire width by say 4 inches per side and your new tires/wheels are 4 inches wider than stock, you should be using a "plus 2" long travel kit to move the wheel mounting surface out 2 inches, and then select wheels with the same offset (not back spacing) as the OEM wheels, and split the extra 4 inches of wheel/tire width on each side of the bearing center. Then it would track straight and you wouldn't have a vehicle that wants to dart left or right when it hits a pothole. But as I said - it's expensive to do it right. So most people don't. Heck most shops don't even know how to do it right or why. The problem is not the tires. It's the geometry. Mud tires can track perfectly straight. Just put them on the correct wheels for the vehicle.
Do a video on bfg KO2 vs all the rest. I hear so much about these tires.
Thank you! I learned so much watching this video!
Looking forward to the hybrid review. Leaning towards the Trailblade XT's, but you may steer me in another direction. Thanks for the good info.
D Car me as well 285 40 24
I actually had Trailblade XTs on my sequoia (I bought them from Custom Offsets) but I had an out of round issue on 3 tires. I decided to go to the Nitto Ridge Grappler. It is an absolute win. The Nittos are 100% better. I just wish I didn't go cheap the first time. You can check my Sequoia out on their website.
D Car purchased a set from custom offsets and the only complaint I have with them is like Shawn said, they run narrow. I went from Nitro trail grapplers 285/65-18 to the atturo xt 285/65-18 add lost a good 1-1/4" in width. Doesn't sound like much, but you can definitely see it.