That comment about being able to step onto the trail with Walmart gear is an understatement. The quality of walmart gear is exceptional for the price, and the weight of it is catching up...... meaning there are more and more lightweight choices each year. Walmart gear six or seven years ago was vastly different.
although I do not suggest a Walmart backpack, unless budget is the only thing stopping someone from going on trail. There are way too many choices that are ultralight. My suggestion is to look for a custom made pack from bonfus. I chose the Altus, as I wanted a pack that would help me straddle between my light and ultralight pack weight due to budget. This being a 38 liter pack for 220 dollars and still weighs under 13 ounces! I almost got the running vest style of straps, but I chose traditional straps since they allow a little more of a weight carry. Sorry to rant, but I am very excited as I have ordered mine and anxiously await it. I have needed a new pack since buying mine around the time that you thru-hiked.
Retired Naval Aviator here, love this approach to mental preperation ahead of stepping off onto the trail. Putting this into action today with 21 days counting down to go time.
Great video! This has been said before, but is worth repeating. Don't quit on a bad day. If you having a bad day, missing family, weather is crap, knees are acting up, etc etc, wait to make the decision to quit on a good day. That way your mind will have stopped blabbing away about all these desperate "reasons" you must quit. Should be much easier to make the correct decision without that noise.
Greetings from the Whites. This is likely the most useful and relevant prep video I've seen. Sadly, those who need this information the most are the ones who will focus on tangibles, like gear, resupply points, daily mileage, etc. They don't know what they don't know. By commenting, I hope to help this video reach more prospective hikers. This is so much more important than gear.
Man oh man I really appreciate your advice on practicing not quitting. I need to hear that in my day to day. You are quite motivational. I am an AT section hiker and we like to het 30 to 40 miles in a 2 night trip, 3 times a year I like to stay in shape in between sections with weight training, high intensity cardio and running here and there. But honestly there is nothing that can prepare you for being on trail like being on trail. Find a state park and get used to walking uphill for miles at a time. The very beginning of the AT eases you in but from mile 30ish to mile 500ish are your highest elevations and greatest change in elevation. Don’t pack your fear. You do not need as much as you think you do. You should definitely get 100 miles at least of backpacking in and dial in your gear. Being on trail is absolutely the best there is nothing like being in places that you can only walk to surrounded by God’s obvious creation. But if you’re not prepared or you’re grossly over prepared (carrying too much weight) you will have a terrible time. Best of luck to all those on trail.
Early Riser, you are freaking awesome! I have less than 30 days and am at the point where I don’t know what I don’t know so it’s time to just pack the bag and get ready to walk. You are 100% right in all you relayed - and it flowed well - it’s walking and camping. I love that! I really appreciate all the advice and will add one more layer of rep to get ready. 🇨🇦🥓
Havent thought about the wet shirt routine, but I have lived more than a year living everyday in my minivan, no heat in the wi ter, no AC in the Southern US Summers. I had to live pretty much 24 hours a day except work in ambient outdoor temps. Ive lived with no regular showers, eating simply, looking for a new place to sleep most nights, dealing with bodily waste with no running water. I slept most nights in my sleeping bag, the same one i will be taking on trail. It wasn't really a choice to get training for the AT Thru hike this year, it was a necessity, but I found I loved the simplicity of life. Doesn't guarantee that I will be successful in my thru hike, im still a 62 yo woman, who isn't exactly peak physical shape, but as long as I don't go too fast too soon and ease into the hiking part, dealing with the suck part shouldn't be too hard.
ER it is so good to see you're videos popping back up! So true it's just walking and camping!! Unfortunately we make it so much more. The mind is by far the biggest obstacle. I try to remember that anxiety comes from within. I would tell anyone to focus on physical preparation and gear of course, but first and foremost on mental preparation. You're 100% right on. Thanks for all your knowledge. I would say the "don't quit" training of sleeping outside and getting used to the noises, darkness, and vulnerability of lying in a tent out in the woods is way up on the list. The homesickness is another one I never expected to be something to take me off trail. Really appreciate you sharing all your thoughts and knowledge over the years. Dueces..
Wise words. Ive sectioned from Springer to Port Clinton and had to get my “reps” the hard way. I thought I was ready but I was not even close. For the first week I was sleep deprived, dehydrated, sore, wet and nearly quit two days into my first section. Ive had people mention going with me and Ive told them your recommendations in this video. They always say Im not doing a very good job of selling the experience lol. I tell them its just how it is. Thanks for the videos. Looking forward to the next one.
This is the best advice I have ever heard about how to prep. for a thru hike. I did the trail 20 years ago with 1/2 of my stuff from Wal-Mart like you mentioned. The advice you give about challenging yourself with things like wet clothes before you go is perfect. You got to have that, "I'm tougher than this (weather, hill, trail, hunger...)."
reps at not quiting.. so true. I have fibromyalgia , most days are not quitting and pushing on. I am attempting the Colorado Trail again this summer. I think I have it dialed in now. Excellent advice!
I day-hike in remote areas w/o amenities, so I've had to learn efficient, leave no trace steps to go to the bathroom, wash my hands, brush my teeth after a meal, etc. It makes a difference if you can accomplish these simple tasks with minimal inconvenience and clumsiness, not accidentally spilling your water or dropping supplies on the ground.
Wow, yep, “get reps at not quitting.” Well said. I hiked 260 miles over the CA Sierra this last summer at 60. Before it was only a few nights. I overstressed on food with my digestive issues and yep, there wasn’t any amount of Imodium out there that could save me, but I trudged on. Freezing mornings, frozen hands packing up, frozen bars that I could not bite into for hours, in one stretch a fuel canister that failed, falling off a rock hop and ending up with wet feet in a rainstorm, pass after pass, etc. That was all hard and I completed. Looking at a long trail now, AT or PCT, knowing I have the perseverance. Thanks you. Subscribed.
Thank you for this video Early Riser! This comes at a perfect time for us with a month to go before we set off at Springer Mountain. That shirt sure was an eye-opener this morning!
Thanks for this -> reps at not quitting. Being familiar and comfortable with being uncomfortable is so important. I’m nearing my nobo date, and it’s looking like a cold wet ride… Appreciate all you continue to do for the community, it makes a difference. 👊👊
ER, I needed this today. I'm two weeks away from thru hiking the Pinhoti Trail. Been hiking every weekend for the past 9 weeks in preparation. Mental training has been my biggest focus on my 11 mile training days ... make sure I'm eating and drinking in the winter and pushing through when my mind starts yapping. Going to start sleep training this week. Thanks again for this!
HI ER, watched all your videos prior to my 2018 thru bike. From Texas and very cold averse. My training for a Feb start was for two months prior I took a 5 minute cold shower first thing every morning. At first could only last 30 seconds. I think it helped. Charlie Horse AT 2018 USMC 1969/1973.
I come back to this video each week because it has given me pause. One of the primary reasons why I want to hike the AT is that it will force me to try really hard at just about everything. How do I work through this: The NO QUIT TRAINING. if I could go back to 2018 I definitely would of prepared physically and mentally much much more, leaning harder though on the mental emotional training. And number 2: don't believe your an expert -- I thought i knew it all and it was so severe That I refused to listen to veteran hikers like ER when he would try to impart pieces and keys of knowledge that he learned from his successful thru hike. So listen too those who can step through the Curse of Knowledge and really teach about the keys of successful thru hiking. I am not trying to massage anyone's ego, it's just that these things resonate truthfully with me.
You said so many things that are absolutely true. The first time you quit, it gets easier to quit the second time. When most of the hikers I talked to stated they did their shakedown hikes when the weather was nice. I did all my shakedown hikes in the rain and on the coldest nights. I learned the limits of my gear. Now every potential AT Thru Hiker’s Goal is to the walk 2200 miles. So, before they begin they must set a standard, an accelerator habit and have the proper self talk language. My suggestion would be for the standard, get up at 0430, put on those damp cold clothes and hike 5 miles before work. Accelerator Habit could be after completing that walk is to always roll out those muscles, stretch and recover. Self Talk Language is changing the phrase man I have got to get up and hike and replace it with man I get the opportunity to hike today and see something new. I hated to see your dogs lose tonight! God Bless America and all that keep her free! Happy Hiking
I think of the days that you have another 10 miles to go and you just don't know if you can. It's cold, it's raining, it's snowing, insert challenge here. I think you have to know you can dig deeper than you thought possible and get it done. I call it the "I don't wanna but I'm gonna" mindset. When you're prepping, walk in the rain, eat your lunch in the rain, make your dinner and do some of the things that you think you just can't face. It's snowing like crazy today and I'll still be out on my walk. I think we humans sell ourselves short so often. We are capable of so much more if we just believe we can.
For women especially, you have to be able to reach the shelter you were aiming for and be ready to hike on if there is some strange dude there giving off weirdo vibes. That's why I beg people to get in shape BEFORE their hike. There may be the need to hike on early in the journey!!!
Wow, so happy to see you ER!! Mama Star and Little Rainbow here. You were our inspiration for our long trail thru hike. Haven’t done a hike since then but I’ve got plans for another in the next couple of years
Oddly, once I started using an umbrella, those days became my favorite. The trail is empty of hikers, and the clouds are usually doing something fantastic when you get to views!! Practicing walking in the rain is a great idea. And setting up camp in the rain as well.
I bought your book Pushing North and just reading a chapter or two of that help get me motivated to get out during these cold damp winter months in the UK.I wont be doing anything as grand as an AT but i have set a few modest hiking goals for 2025 and your book really does help me get my boots on when i´d rather just stay home and warm..
Every time you say the word "mind" I take a deep breath and relax my shoulders!! They are always tensed! Working on it! 🙂 And I'm not even going on a thru hike! Happy new year!
My traps used to be so sore all the time when I was in the throws of my anxiety. I was always tense. How silly that seems now. Understanding that it's all mind noise is very freeing.
In 2018, I saw strong hikers quit for various reasons. I also saw inexperienced hikers make it the whole way. If you want to quit, you will find a reason. If you want to finish, you’ll fight through the dampness and physical discomfort. Another thing you should warn people about is unnecessary drama on the trail. Don’t let others influence your decisions when they exaggerate weather, trail conditions, or lack of resources. Finally, don’t hang around toxic people. A lot of people are there for the wrong reasons. Try enriching your experience by hiking with as many different people as possible as opposed to the same people for long periods of time.
If possible, I'd suggest trying to do some night hiking and solo camping away from other people. The woods can be a spooky place at night. Especially when you're by yourself. It takes getting used to.
@madmartigan8774 couldn't agree more. As a guy who camps alone, 95% of the time, getting comfortable with the night is imperative!! I was in the middle of the Roller Coaster in Northern VA and camped by myself in a stealth spot. I woke up to children's voices somewhere nearby. They kept getting louder and softer but never stopped for hours. Really creepy because I knew there were no campsites near me. Ended up being tree limbs rubbing together in the wind. Wild. I didn't sleep much during those hours!! 😁🤘🕓
It has just started to hit me as to just what an anomaly I really was out there. No experience, no planning at all before I got there, never been in the mountains, never been in prolonged cold (from Florida), never backpacked or hiked before, never really even went camping. Had enough time to order the gear , and other than setting it up in the yard - I used it for the first time at Springer Mountain. I was a terrible hiker, awkward & clumsy, and I had 5 ER visits on my journey (1 for bronchitis, 1 for Limes Prevention, and 3 related to a hand injury 14 stitches and re-injury). Everything I started with I didn’t finish with - and I never watched one Vlog beforehand and still haven’t read one book. I never even heard of Gramma Gatewood or iconic site like McAfee Knob until I got on trail. But, I made it. I ask myself this all the time, why did I make it when so many did not? So many that planned for years, was their life long goal, trained and had long section hikes in the background, athletes in far better shape than I, certainly better hikers. I coughed and wheezed, and stumbled and fell - but I made it and many of them did not. Boggles my mind. I truly believe my naivety helped me. I literally had ZERO expectations - I never cared if I finished, there was no pressure I put on myself. I was intentional about enjoying the new experience - regardless of how long I was to be out there. I never set any goals for myself except maybe - to enjoy however long I am out there; all the way to Katahdin or maybe I only make it 100 miles, or even 10. I had no stake in the outcome. It wasn’t until the very end, in Maine where I had to lean on will power to keep going. My very first moments where I was physically depleted, where I didn’t really have any reason to keep going except pride - and that is something I didn’t want to rekindle. So I struggled with the “idea” of leaning on an ego trait I thought I had killed. Questioned myself and if I Was I continuing for the right reasons? What was I there to learn or unlearn? I wrestled with stopping because it was never about finishing - until that moment. Hope this makes sense. Now, I don’t recommend anyone follow the “Wingit” way of hiking the AT. Is it possible? Sure, I did it. I also have a history of not quitting though, an innate ability to be comfortable with discomfort - and I knew this. That being said, I actually like the don’t quit training - especially the morning wet t-shirt idea. Genius. Another idea is to not look at it as a 2200 mile - 4 to 6 month hike. If it takes 150 days for someone - look at it as thirty 5 day hikes in a row. You don’t have to think all the way to Katahdin, pack your stuff for a 5 day backpacking/camping trip and then readjust, repack, and do another 5 days. Sometimes it is “I just need to get over this one climb” or “can I make it to camp tonight”. So many people, strong people, former military, athletes and people who planned excessively and were so certain they would make it - quit along the way. Not because they were tired of it, not because they couldn’t physically make it, not even because they were uncomfortable. At least not vocally, their minds told them something completely different; maybe even tricked them into believing something. They would say things like “I know I can make it” or “I could keep going if I wanted to” but they said things like “I got what I came for” or “it’s just not fun anymore”. And that fascinated me because it was their DREAM. Yet, it wasn’t my dream - I wasn’t even sure if I would enjoy hiking at all - yet I made it and many of them did not. For me, having no pressure on me, no expectations or attachment to finishing helped tremendously. But, it is safe to assume that most people attempting a thru hike have some pressure on themselves, are attached to finishing, absolutely want to finish the trail. Why would some big dummy attempt it and not desire to finish? 😂 that is a good question. lol The more I think about it, the more special it becomes. Absolute miraculous journey indeed. As you said perfectly, the universe will unfold it for you. Thanks brother. You were a big help along the way of my journey. Means the world to me.
Great comment. So much in there. The ole "I got what I came for" reason to get off trail is a crafty way for the ego to try and save face with itself. I have said in previous videos that you may have found something when your mind feeds you that excuse, but I promise, the magic ahead is worth all the pain and discomfort. It takes all the hard days for the lessons to manifest. 🤘🕓
you mentioned spec ops.. Communications soldier here, and I almost went Ranger when they came to my school and told us that they got the most money, best guns, an best women. I have one thing to mention from special ops standpoint, as this is some odd current events. It is reported that the green beret said responsible for the las vegas tesla boom had google searched if a fifty cal desert eagle would set off tannerite. This is common knowledge, and especially so in that sector of the military. doesn't have relevance to your video, but I am drawn to mention it anyways.
You put it into words! My friends look just as miserable out there as I am, yet they just keep going, when I want to quit. I probably need “don’t quit” training as much or more than physical training! Thanks.
Appreciate this & the comments! Perfect timing as I start the trail mid February and have been wondering the last few days if I’ve done enough to prepare & what can I still do before stepping on trail.
Your video about putting on wet cold clothing was one of the reasons I decided to start in late April in 2021 to avoid having to do that. Jokes on me though, I had to do it plenty of times anyway! Mountain tops are way colder than valleys. You were the first person I heard say "Embrace the Suck" - and once I fully embraced it, the hike became a lot more fun. I would recommend people work on cardio. Cardio, cardio, cardio - and embracing everything - even the un-fun. 🙂☮
Good to have you back and speaking up in the community Riser. I am starting the trail this year and I name dropped you in my equipment video as reminding me to my long-ago goal of hiking the trail. Keep up the good info drops and although I have not heard you say anything yet, I am looking forward to you doing the PCT or the Continental Devid trail.
Perhaps do a mini series much like the Use It or Lose it Series, which by the way was excellent, so a mini series on Categories of Mental PREP. Just like you said, If you are a beginner or novice at anything then how does that person get relevant, pertinent information that will directly affect effect or have any type of influence on, from those who have had that experience but only those that do not suffer from this Curse of Knowledge. Please listen to what Trey is really saying. Again, my failures in thru hiking is directly connected to not having enough no quit training. I will say though, that I am using the AT fully immerse myself in this no quit training philosophy I mean if there is one Flippin thing that I want to complete, it's my thru hike of the AT. I can honestly say that hikers like Trey have been absolutely key to unlocking this life puzzle for me. Other hikers I add to that group would be Spielberg, The Hiking Rev, IBTAT, Cascadia Hikes, Chris Goes Outdoors, Nomad, to name a few that have been a major key to my development of my thru hiking dream and continuing my backpacking life after. Thank you Trey, please think about mini series about mental prep. Great job!
Lots of reps of not quitting: USMC boot camp, active duty one week day shift next week nights, 27 years working in special ed(some days!!!!) radiation treatments. Just keep going. Great advice
@tammieflemal7871 I think a big reason some people can step on trail without experience and not quit is for what you stated here... they have a lifetime of not quiting hard things. I would put myself in that camp as well.
Hey there, old pal, great video! Some 4-5yr after I first discovered your channel, and came to rely on your insights to help me understand the challenges I would face on the AT, I'm now a Triple Crowner, and actively cobbeling together plans for my next great adventure(s), I'm still excited to watch your latest release. This video is great-- Great advice in the specific sense, but even more importantly, great vibe-check. I recall Jan '21, just ~6 weeks before my first thru-embarkation-- nerves were NUTS... Honestly was the same for CDT and PCT and JMT as well... But this advice is gold. Well done! Hope we can link up down trail, if you still have my number, shoot me a text, I'd love to chat through a rendezvous. PS: For the love of GOD people, eat no Ramen to train!!! 8,000mi+ into my hiking career and I can't even think of Ramen/ couscous without feeling crushed. That said, it will be Ramen and couscous again, as it always is, on my next adventures
@travelinbeat hey TB! Great to hear from you! The most color coordinated triple crowner out there. If you are reading this comment and haven't watched his thru hikes, you are missing out. He is dialed in!! 🤘🕓
@loueckert4970 too many IMO but some (not many) find success. I contend they had a lot of organic "don't quit" training in life. That definitely carries over to a thru hike.
I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. I remember in the military setting goals on runs as small as making it to the next light pole, and then the next one , etc. I was never great at anything, but something in me would just not let me quit. Rather than having a reason why to keep going, I always thought about and visualized how I would feel if I didn’t finish what I started. I think if a person has this quality, they will finish a thru hike regardless of anything else. I also think you shouldn’t think about the finish until you are really close because it makes tasks like this seem overwhelming. I heard another ex military guy say, “Don’t try and swallowing the watermelon.” His point was don’t think about the big picture or how much you have left to do., but just think about the next day or to the next resupply. I think another good trait to develop is to see the humor in things when it’s all going wrong. Lastly, I think you are way more likely yo reduce the suck if you start in shape. I noticed this from Energizer, another 60ish year old thru hiker. He could knock out 25-30 mike days. If you can do that, you give yourself options each day. You can carry less food and you can get to hostels on bad weather days or just when you are tired. Energizer is a triple crowner, and on the AT, he spent many days in hostels and ate a lot of days in town or at roadside restaurants. The key was that he could bust out those long days. He probably spent 40 nights in a bed and still finished in 105 days because his ability to do the long miles each day gave him options. Great video and great advice!
Great comment. Couldn't agree more on starting in shape. I was able to enjoy all the days up front because I wasn't overwhelmed physically. Being in shape should be a life goal not a hike goal! 🤘🕓
I’ve tried twice, and both times I’ve become so lonely. I know you were fine with that. But, I fell left out because I am a woman and 62 years old. I don’t want to be a LASHER. I want to compete this goal. How do I overcome the loneliness?
@AT-Bluebird loneliness is tough to discuss without a common foundation of beliefs. I know it is hard on many people, especially on something like a thru hike. I will try to talk about this in some way in the future. I personally believe that loneliness is just a mind story, much like boredom. Follow the link in the description to my Substack page (it's totally free). Read what I wrote about perceptions this week. Loneliness is nothing but a perception our mind feeds us through its nonsense story that never stops in our head. It does it to get it's way. The mind wants comfort and safety so it creates these perception filters to make us see the world the way it wants us to see it. It's not true, but it feels true. We should feel no more lonely awake than we do when we are asleep, yet so many people have fallen victim to the mind story. Let me know what you think after reading the article. Thanks for the comment!! ❤️🕓
Food.... the hardest thing for me to do was eating.... I was overweight and noticed the fast weight loss.... i loved that, but i got into a habit of not eating enough... by mile 800 i began suffering muscle wasting... that was mucho malo... it caused muscle imbalances in my legs that led to patellar tendonitis in both knees... that killed my hike.... So.... my thoughts for people on a thruhike thinking that it will burn off all the excess weight.... yes... yes it will and then go after your muscle.... if you don't eat enough.... Don't worry if you fatty fats don't skinnyize in the first two months... you will by mid trail..... you do have to keep your muscles.... they stay strong .... you get to keep hiking.... I really regret falling prey to using the hike for weight loss.... damn shame I hobbled myself like that.... ah well ... live and learn.
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That comment about being able to step onto the trail with Walmart gear is an understatement. The quality of walmart gear is exceptional for the price, and the weight of it is catching up...... meaning there are more and more lightweight choices each year.
Walmart gear six or seven years ago was vastly different.
although I do not suggest a Walmart backpack, unless budget is the only thing stopping someone from going on trail. There are way too many choices that are ultralight. My suggestion is to look for a custom made pack from bonfus. I chose the Altus, as I wanted a pack that would help me straddle between my light and ultralight pack weight due to budget. This being a 38 liter pack for 220 dollars and still weighs under 13 ounces! I almost got the running vest style of straps, but I chose traditional straps since they allow a little more of a weight carry. Sorry to rant, but I am very excited as I have ordered mine and anxiously await it. I have needed a new pack since buying mine around the time that you thru-hiked.
Retired Naval Aviator here, love this approach to mental preperation ahead of stepping off onto the trail. Putting this into action today with 21 days counting down to go time.
Great video!
This has been said before, but is worth repeating. Don't quit on a bad day. If you having a bad day, missing family, weather is crap, knees are acting up, etc etc, wait to make the decision to quit on a good day. That way your mind will have stopped blabbing away about all these desperate "reasons" you must quit. Should be much easier to make the correct decision without that noise.
Greetings from the Whites. This is likely the most useful and relevant prep video I've seen. Sadly, those who need this information the most are the ones who will focus on tangibles, like gear, resupply points, daily mileage, etc. They don't know what they don't know.
By commenting, I hope to help this video reach more prospective hikers. This is so much more important than gear.
Man oh man I really appreciate your advice on practicing not quitting. I need to hear that in my day to day. You are quite motivational. I am an AT section hiker and we like to het 30 to 40 miles in a 2 night trip, 3 times a year I like to stay in shape in between sections with weight training, high intensity cardio and running here and there. But honestly there is nothing that can prepare you for being on trail like being on trail. Find a state park and get used to walking uphill for miles at a time. The very beginning of the AT eases you in but from mile 30ish to mile 500ish are your highest elevations and greatest change in elevation. Don’t pack your fear. You do not need as much as you think you do. You should definitely get 100 miles at least of backpacking in and dial in your gear. Being on trail is absolutely the best there is nothing like being in places that you can only walk to surrounded by God’s obvious creation. But if you’re not prepared or you’re grossly over prepared (carrying too much weight) you will have a terrible time. Best of luck to all those on trail.
Early Riser, you are freaking awesome! I have less than 30 days and am at the point where I don’t know what I don’t know so it’s time to just pack the bag and get ready to walk. You are 100% right in all you relayed - and it flowed well - it’s walking and camping. I love that! I really appreciate all the advice and will add one more layer of rep to get ready. 🇨🇦🥓
Havent thought about the wet shirt routine, but I have lived more than a year living everyday in my minivan, no heat in the wi ter, no AC in the Southern US Summers. I had to live pretty much 24 hours a day except work in ambient outdoor temps. Ive lived with no regular showers, eating simply, looking for a new place to sleep most nights, dealing with bodily waste with no running water. I slept most nights in my sleeping bag, the same one i will be taking on trail. It wasn't really a choice to get training for the AT Thru hike this year, it was a necessity, but I found I loved the simplicity of life. Doesn't guarantee that I will be successful in my thru hike, im still a 62 yo woman, who isn't exactly peak physical shape, but as long as I don't go too fast too soon and ease into the hiking part, dealing with the suck part shouldn't be too hard.
ER it is so good to see you're videos popping back up! So true it's just walking and camping!! Unfortunately we make it so much more. The mind is by far the biggest obstacle. I try to remember that anxiety comes from within. I would tell anyone to focus on physical preparation and gear of course, but first and foremost on mental preparation. You're 100% right on. Thanks for all your knowledge. I would say the "don't quit" training of sleeping outside and getting used to the noises, darkness, and vulnerability of lying in a tent out in the woods is way up on the list. The homesickness is another one I never expected to be something to take me off trail. Really appreciate you sharing all your thoughts and knowledge over the years. Dueces..
@ricoautori1582 good to hear from you!!!🤘🕓
Wise words. Ive sectioned from Springer to Port Clinton and had to get my “reps” the hard way. I thought I was ready but I was not even close. For the first week I was sleep deprived, dehydrated, sore, wet and nearly quit two days into my first section. Ive had people mention going with me and Ive told them your recommendations in this video. They always say Im not doing a very good job of selling the experience lol. I tell them its just how it is. Thanks for the videos. Looking forward to the next one.
Early Riser is a wise man. Thank you for the solid advice.
Your book is THE very best book I’ve ever listened to concerning preparation for hiking the AT
That means a ton!!! Thanks for the comment.
❤ your perspective and specific advice. I’m starting the AT in a month.
This is the best advice I have ever heard about how to prep. for a thru hike. I did the trail 20 years ago with 1/2 of my stuff from Wal-Mart like you mentioned. The advice you give about challenging yourself with things like wet clothes before you go is perfect. You got to have that, "I'm tougher than this (weather, hill, trail, hunger...)."
reps at not quiting.. so true. I have fibromyalgia , most days are not quitting and pushing on. I am attempting the Colorado Trail again this summer. I think I have it dialed in now. Excellent advice!
@@KathyColorado1 my wife had fibromyalgia. Tough days right there!
I day-hike in remote areas w/o amenities, so I've had to learn efficient, leave no trace steps to go to the bathroom, wash my hands, brush my teeth after a meal, etc. It makes a difference if you can accomplish these simple tasks with minimal inconvenience and clumsiness, not accidentally spilling your water or dropping supplies on the ground.
Wow, yep, “get reps at not quitting.” Well said. I hiked 260 miles over the CA Sierra this last summer at 60. Before it was only a few nights. I overstressed on food with my digestive issues and yep, there wasn’t any amount of Imodium out there that could save me, but I trudged on. Freezing mornings, frozen hands packing up, frozen bars that I could not bite into for hours, in one stretch a fuel canister that failed, falling off a rock hop and ending up with wet feet in a rainstorm, pass after pass, etc. That was all hard and I completed. Looking at a long trail now, AT or PCT, knowing I have the perseverance. Thanks you. Subscribed.
@@kristymoore7052 awesome comment. Thanks! 🤘🕓
Great pep talk! I agree with you.
I am so glad you're back on here, I need to hear these things for life and I already complthe AT
@@ISuckatHiking good to hear from you, brother!! 🕓
Thank you for this video Early Riser! This comes at a perfect time for us with a month to go before we set off at Springer Mountain. That shirt sure was an eye-opener this morning!
@@GenXAdventureTails good luck. It's such an amazing journey.
Thanks for this -> reps at not quitting. Being familiar and comfortable with being uncomfortable is so important. I’m nearing my nobo date, and it’s looking like a cold wet ride… Appreciate all you continue to do for the community, it makes a difference. 👊👊
ER, I needed this today. I'm two weeks away from thru hiking the Pinhoti Trail. Been hiking every weekend for the past 9 weeks in preparation. Mental training has been my biggest focus on my 11 mile training days ... make sure I'm eating and drinking in the winter and pushing through when my mind starts yapping. Going to start sleep training this week. Thanks again for this!
Good luck on the hike. The Pinhoti is a great trail. Not too hard... Just hard enough. You got this. 🤘🕓
Class of 2023 here you are spot on. And evey bit of it is worth it. Much love.
HI ER, watched all your videos prior to my 2018 thru bike. From Texas and very cold averse. My training for a Feb start was for two months prior I took a 5 minute cold shower first thing every morning. At first could only last 30 seconds. I think it helped. Charlie Horse AT 2018 USMC 1969/1973.
@@mmck1853 cold showers SUCK! Perfect reps right there.
Thanks ER - great advice and spot on.
if I was going to start mid February : get comfortable with hiking in cold rain.
hiked in 2019 and had rain the first 8 days, best time of my life lol
Good stuff ER.
I come back to this video each week because it has given me pause. One of the primary reasons why I want to hike the AT is that it will force me to try really hard at just about everything. How do I work through this: The NO QUIT TRAINING. if I could go back to 2018 I definitely would of prepared physically and mentally much much more, leaning harder though on the mental emotional training. And number 2: don't believe your an expert -- I thought i knew it all and it was so severe That I refused to listen to veteran hikers like ER when he would try to impart pieces and keys of knowledge that he learned from his successful thru hike. So listen too those who can step through the Curse of Knowledge and really teach about the keys of successful thru hiking. I am not trying to massage anyone's ego, it's just that these things resonate truthfully with me.
Reps at not quitting is getting comfortable being uncomfortable. Great advice Early Riser! RLTW
You said so many things that are absolutely true. The first time you quit, it gets easier to quit the second time. When most of the hikers I talked to stated they did their shakedown hikes when the weather was nice. I did all my shakedown hikes in the rain and on the coldest nights. I learned the limits of my gear. Now every potential AT Thru Hiker’s Goal is to the walk 2200 miles. So, before they begin they must set a standard, an accelerator habit and have the proper self talk language. My suggestion would be for the standard, get up at 0430, put on those damp cold clothes and hike 5 miles before work. Accelerator Habit could be after completing that walk is to always roll out those muscles, stretch and recover. Self Talk Language is changing the phrase man I have got to get up and hike and replace it with man I get the opportunity to hike today and see something new. I hated to see your dogs lose tonight! God Bless America and all that keep her free! Happy Hiking
@@cottontalesfromthetrail5474 tons of good stuff in this comment!! 🤘🕓
I think of the days that you have another 10 miles to go and you just don't know if you can. It's cold, it's raining, it's snowing, insert challenge here. I think you have to know you can dig deeper than you thought possible and get it done. I call it the "I don't wanna but I'm gonna" mindset. When you're prepping, walk in the rain, eat your lunch in the rain, make your dinner and do some of the things that you think you just can't face. It's snowing like crazy today and I'll still be out on my walk. I think we humans sell ourselves short so often. We are capable of so much more if we just believe we can.
For women especially, you have to be able to reach the shelter you were aiming for and be ready to hike on if there is some strange dude there giving off weirdo vibes. That's why I beg people to get in shape BEFORE their hike. There may be the need to hike on early in the journey!!!
Wow, so happy to see you ER!! Mama Star and Little Rainbow here. You were our inspiration for our long trail thru hike. Haven’t done a hike since then but I’ve got plans for another in the next couple of years
Awesome to hear from you! I hope you two are happy and healthy! I look forward to hearing about your new adventures! 🤘🕓
Walking in the rain…always sucks on trail. Good thing to get used to. Great video.
Oddly, once I started using an umbrella, those days became my favorite. The trail is empty of hikers, and the clouds are usually doing something fantastic when you get to views!! Practicing walking in the rain is a great idea. And setting up camp in the rain as well.
I bought your book Pushing North and just reading a chapter or two of that help get me motivated to get out during these cold damp winter months in the UK.I wont be doing anything as grand as an AT but i have set a few modest hiking goals for 2025 and your book really does help me get my boots on when i´d rather just stay home and warm..
@@daveeardley5386 hell, yeah! Thanks for sharing!!
Every time you say the word "mind" I take a deep breath and relax my shoulders!! They are always tensed! Working on it! 🙂 And I'm not even going on a thru hike! Happy new year!
My traps used to be so sore all the time when I was in the throws of my anxiety. I was always tense. How silly that seems now. Understanding that it's all mind noise is very freeing.
In 2018, I saw strong hikers quit for various reasons. I also saw inexperienced hikers make it the whole way. If you want to quit, you will find a reason. If you want to finish, you’ll fight through the dampness and physical discomfort. Another thing you should warn people about is unnecessary drama on the trail. Don’t let others influence your decisions when they exaggerate weather, trail conditions, or lack of resources. Finally, don’t hang around toxic people. A lot of people are there for the wrong reasons. Try enriching your experience by hiking with as many different people as possible as opposed to the same people for long periods of time.
Hi reboot , Charlie Horse here. Enjoyed our miles together and your videos.
@@mmck1853 Hey Charlie Horse! You were an example of someone who enriched my experience. You also pressed on when others around you quit.
really glad to have er talks again. i saved the link to this for when i can finally go.
If possible, I'd suggest trying to do some night hiking and solo camping away from other people. The woods can be a spooky place at night. Especially when you're by yourself. It takes getting used to.
@madmartigan8774 couldn't agree more. As a guy who camps alone, 95% of the time, getting comfortable with the night is imperative!! I was in the middle of the Roller Coaster in Northern VA and camped by myself in a stealth spot. I woke up to children's voices somewhere nearby. They kept getting louder and softer but never stopped for hours. Really creepy because I knew there were no campsites near me. Ended up being tree limbs rubbing together in the wind. Wild. I didn't sleep much during those hours!! 😁🤘🕓
@EarlyRiser71 Those are the types of things that will have you relieving yourself in a bottle so you don't have to leave your tent 😆
It has just started to hit me as to just what an anomaly I really was out there. No experience, no planning at all before I got there, never been in the mountains, never been in prolonged cold (from Florida), never backpacked or hiked before, never really even went camping. Had enough time to order the gear , and other than setting it up in the yard - I used it for the first time at Springer Mountain. I was a terrible hiker, awkward & clumsy, and I had 5 ER visits on my journey (1 for bronchitis, 1 for Limes Prevention, and 3 related to a hand injury 14 stitches and re-injury). Everything I started with I didn’t finish with - and I never watched one Vlog beforehand and still haven’t read one book. I never even heard of Gramma Gatewood or iconic site like McAfee Knob until I got on trail.
But, I made it. I ask myself this all the time, why did I make it when so many did not? So many that planned for years, was their life long goal, trained and had long section hikes in the background, athletes in far better shape than I, certainly better hikers. I coughed and wheezed, and stumbled and fell - but I made it and many of them did not. Boggles my mind.
I truly believe my naivety helped me. I literally had ZERO expectations - I never cared if I finished, there was no pressure I put on myself. I was intentional about enjoying the new experience - regardless of how long I was to be out there. I never set any goals for myself except maybe - to enjoy however long I am out there; all the way to Katahdin or maybe I only make it 100 miles, or even 10. I had no stake in the outcome. It wasn’t until the very end, in Maine where I had to lean on will power to keep going. My very first moments where I was physically depleted, where I didn’t really have any reason to keep going except pride - and that is something I didn’t want to rekindle. So I struggled with the “idea” of leaning on an ego trait I thought I had killed. Questioned myself and if I Was I continuing for the right reasons? What was I there to learn or unlearn? I wrestled with stopping because it was never about finishing - until that moment. Hope this makes sense.
Now, I don’t recommend anyone follow the “Wingit” way of hiking the AT. Is it possible? Sure, I did it. I also have a history of not quitting though, an innate ability to be comfortable with discomfort - and I knew this.
That being said, I actually like the don’t quit training - especially the morning wet t-shirt idea. Genius. Another idea is to not look at it as a 2200 mile - 4 to 6 month hike. If it takes 150 days for someone - look at it as thirty 5 day hikes in a row. You don’t have to think all the way to Katahdin, pack your stuff for a 5 day backpacking/camping trip and then readjust, repack, and do another 5 days. Sometimes it is “I just need to get over this one climb” or “can I make it to camp tonight”.
So many people, strong people, former military, athletes and people who planned excessively and were so certain they would make it - quit along the way. Not because they were tired of it, not because they couldn’t physically make it, not even because they were uncomfortable. At least not vocally, their minds told them something completely different; maybe even tricked them into believing something. They would say things like “I know I can make it” or “I could keep going if I wanted to” but they said things like “I got what I came for” or “it’s just not fun anymore”. And that fascinated me because it was their DREAM. Yet, it wasn’t my dream - I wasn’t even sure if I would enjoy hiking at all - yet I made it and many of them did not.
For me, having no pressure on me, no expectations or attachment to finishing helped tremendously. But, it is safe to assume that most people attempting a thru hike have some pressure on themselves, are attached to finishing, absolutely want to finish the trail. Why would some big dummy attempt it and not desire to finish? 😂 that is a good question. lol
The more I think about it, the more special it becomes. Absolute miraculous journey indeed. As you said perfectly, the universe will unfold it for you.
Thanks brother. You were a big help along the way of my journey. Means the world to me.
Great comment. So much in there. The ole "I got what I came for" reason to get off trail is a crafty way for the ego to try and save face with itself. I have said in previous videos that you may have found something when your mind feeds you that excuse, but I promise, the magic ahead is worth all the pain and discomfort. It takes all the hard days for the lessons to manifest. 🤘🕓
you mentioned spec ops.. Communications soldier here, and I almost went Ranger when they came to my school and told us that they got the most money, best guns, an best women. I have one thing to mention from special ops standpoint, as this is some odd current events.
It is reported that the green beret said responsible for the las vegas tesla boom had google searched if a fifty cal desert eagle would set off tannerite. This is common knowledge, and especially so in that sector of the military. doesn't have relevance to your video, but I am drawn to mention it anyways.
You put it into words! My friends look just as miserable out there as I am, yet they just keep going, when I want to quit. I probably need “don’t quit” training as much or more than physical training! Thanks.
@@belindaguerette4249 physical training is often the best form of "don't quit" training, and it has the secondary benefit of better health!! 🤘🕓
Thanks ER! Good advice. I will bookmark this video to watch when I prepare to step off.
Appreciate this & the comments! Perfect timing as I start the trail mid February and have been wondering the last few days if I’ve done enough to prepare & what can I still do before stepping on trail.
Your video about putting on wet cold clothing was one of the reasons I decided to start in late April in 2021 to avoid having to do that. Jokes on me though, I had to do it plenty of times anyway! Mountain tops are way colder than valleys. You were the first person I heard say "Embrace the Suck" - and once I fully embraced it, the hike became a lot more fun. I would recommend people work on cardio. Cardio, cardio, cardio - and embracing everything - even the un-fun. 🙂☮
My clothes were wet and cold all the way to Katahdin. 😅 It never stopped! Doing a.low humidity trail sounds like a dream!!
Great advice ER. I hiked the Grand Canyon R2R2R. Going down is optional. Coming up is mandatory. It hurt but there was no quitting. USMC 77-98. SF.
I need to do the AZT soon. Looks amazing. 🤘🎅
Good to have you back and speaking up in the community Riser. I am starting the trail this year and I name dropped you in my equipment video as reminding me to my long-ago goal of hiking the trail. Keep up the good info drops and although I have not heard you say anything yet, I am looking forward to you doing the PCT or the Continental Devid trail.
Good luck on the journey! I'm jealous!
Perhaps do a mini series much like the Use It or Lose it Series, which by the way was excellent, so a mini series on Categories of Mental PREP. Just like you said, If you are a beginner or novice at anything then how does that person get relevant, pertinent information that will directly affect effect or have any type of influence on, from those who have had that experience but only those that do not suffer from this Curse of Knowledge. Please listen to what Trey is really saying. Again, my failures in thru hiking is directly connected to not having enough no quit training. I will say though, that I am using the AT fully immerse myself in this no quit training philosophy I mean if there is one Flippin thing that I want to complete, it's my thru hike of the AT. I can honestly say that hikers like Trey have been absolutely key to unlocking this life puzzle for me. Other hikers I add to that group would be Spielberg, The Hiking Rev, IBTAT, Cascadia Hikes, Chris Goes Outdoors, Nomad, to name a few that have been a major key to my development of my thru hiking dream and continuing my backpacking life after. Thank you Trey, please think about mini series about mental prep. Great job!
Thank you, I needed this message today.
Lots of reps of not quitting: USMC boot camp, active duty one week day shift next week nights, 27 years working in special ed(some days!!!!) radiation treatments. Just keep going. Great advice
@tammieflemal7871 I think a big reason some people can step on trail without experience and not quit is for what you stated here... they have a lifetime of not quiting hard things. I would put myself in that camp as well.
Hey there, old pal, great video! Some 4-5yr after I first discovered your channel, and came to rely on your insights to help me understand the challenges I would face on the AT, I'm now a Triple Crowner, and actively cobbeling together plans for my next great adventure(s), I'm still excited to watch your latest release. This video is great-- Great advice in the specific sense, but even more importantly, great vibe-check. I recall Jan '21, just ~6 weeks before my first thru-embarkation-- nerves were NUTS... Honestly was the same for CDT and PCT and JMT as well... But this advice is gold. Well done! Hope we can link up down trail, if you still have my number, shoot me a text, I'd love to chat through a rendezvous.
PS: For the love of GOD people, eat no Ramen to train!!! 8,000mi+ into my hiking career and I can't even think of Ramen/ couscous without feeling crushed. That said, it will be Ramen and couscous again, as it always is, on my next adventures
@travelinbeat hey TB! Great to hear from you! The most color coordinated triple crowner out there. If you are reading this comment and haven't watched his thru hikes, you are missing out. He is dialed in!! 🤘🕓
How many thru-hikers use their hike to do their preparation?
@loueckert4970 too many IMO but some (not many) find success. I contend they had a lot of organic "don't quit" training in life. That definitely carries over to a thru hike.
I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. I remember in the military setting goals on runs as small as making it to the next light pole, and then the next one , etc. I was never great at anything, but something in me would just not let me quit. Rather than having a reason why to keep going, I always thought about and visualized how I would feel if I didn’t finish what I started. I think if a person has this quality, they will finish a thru hike regardless of anything else. I also think you shouldn’t think about the finish until you are really close because it makes tasks like this seem overwhelming. I heard another ex military guy say, “Don’t try and swallowing the watermelon.” His point was don’t think about the big picture or how much you have left to do., but just think about the next day or to the next resupply. I think another good trait to develop is to see the humor in things when it’s all going wrong. Lastly, I think you are way more likely yo reduce the suck if you start in shape. I noticed this from Energizer, another 60ish year old thru hiker. He could knock out 25-30 mike days. If you can do that, you give yourself options each day. You can carry less food and you can get to hostels on bad weather days or just when you are tired. Energizer is a triple crowner, and on the AT, he spent many days in hostels and ate a lot of days in town or at roadside restaurants. The key was that he could bust out those long days. He probably spent 40 nights in a bed and still finished in 105 days because his ability to do the long miles each day gave him options. Great video and great advice!
Great comment. Couldn't agree more on starting in shape. I was able to enjoy all the days up front because I wasn't overwhelmed physically. Being in shape should be a life goal not a hike goal! 🤘🕓
I’ve tried twice, and both times I’ve become so lonely. I know you were fine with that. But, I fell left out because I am a woman and 62 years old. I don’t want to be a LASHER. I want to compete this goal. How do I overcome the loneliness?
@AT-Bluebird loneliness is tough to discuss without a common foundation of beliefs. I know it is hard on many people, especially on something like a thru hike. I will try to talk about this in some way in the future. I personally believe that loneliness is just a mind story, much like boredom. Follow the link in the description to my Substack page (it's totally free). Read what I wrote about perceptions this week. Loneliness is nothing but a perception our mind feeds us through its nonsense story that never stops in our head. It does it to get it's way. The mind wants comfort and safety so it creates these perception filters to make us see the world the way it wants us to see it. It's not true, but it feels true. We should feel no more lonely awake than we do when we are asleep, yet so many people have fallen victim to the mind story. Let me know what you think after reading the article. Thanks for the comment!! ❤️🕓
@@EarlyRiser71 I will and will let you know.
Read your book twice. Probably going to need to read it again.
Thanks for responding. It means a lot. 💙🐦
Are you in NC?
@twevletopbrewery4835 yes. In the Sandhills.
@@EarlyRiser71 I'm near Charlotte, thru hiked in 2006
Food.... the hardest thing for me to do was eating.... I was overweight and noticed the fast weight loss.... i loved that, but i got into a habit of not eating enough... by mile 800 i began suffering muscle wasting... that was mucho malo... it caused muscle imbalances in my legs that led to patellar tendonitis in both knees... that killed my hike.... So.... my thoughts for people on a thruhike thinking that it will burn off all the excess weight.... yes... yes it will and then go after your muscle.... if you don't eat enough.... Don't worry if you fatty fats don't skinnyize in the first two months... you will by mid trail..... you do have to keep your muscles.... they stay strong .... you get to keep hiking.... I really regret falling prey to using the hike for weight loss.... damn shame I hobbled myself like that.... ah well ... live and learn.
@@kicktree great advice. 🕓
You're not born with Intestinal Fortitude, it's a learned skillset, a work ethic, that diminishes if not cultivated, maintained and jealously guarded.
@dcmsr5141 love this comment. I'm stealing the jealousy guarded piece! Great was to say it!! 🤘🕓
Embrace the suck!
“Honey, what is that wet shirt of yours doing in our fridge? Is it another one of your crazy hiker things?”
Me: “Uhm…yes!”