Ok, just to warn you, do not get single layer version of this tent. You are going to be miserable. We had one of driest weeks during summer and me and my father tried to sleep in this tent. My father run away home, I slept in bivy outside of this tent, because condensation was so bad that water was dripping on my face, but there was no rain for three weeks. In the morning I had to dry out the tent, it was absolutely worse tent experience I ever had.
Hi Paul I can concur with your review. I have used the lanshan 2 for nearly 100 nights, including 30 days on the Scottish national trail and 30 days on the Colorado trail. It has stood up to 60 mph winds, fierce thunderstorms and heavy prolonged rain. The materials it is made from are excellent and have lasted superbly, including the groundsheet. It is also very flexible, can be pitched outer first and opened up in warm weather. Easily the best value tent I have had.
Used a Lanshan 1 (2021 version) on my South West Coastal Path walk in March/April this year. Wild camped for 42 nights. Stood up to everything thrown at it. It works. Under a Kg Great tent
@@mouldyteeth yeah. For the little amount of weight I found it easier to test potential spots and gave me confidence when I was chucking it down on less than perfect areas. Bracken, tough weeds 😃😎
Step 1: Research the one you want Step 2: Crippling doubt Step 3: Look at alternatives Step 4: Repeat step 2 Step 5: Buy the one you want and cross everything you were right Jokes aside, I think the issue with tents (and other gear) you can't really test them for yourself first and its quite pricey so hunting for a bargain takes extra time on top of everything else
@@_NickB_ I can recommend the Scarp 1. Imported mine from Henry Shires in US. I thought Paul had one earlier this year but have not seen him use it in months.
@@johnmcguire6939 that's what worries me, he was saying it's his dream tent but then doesn't seem to have been out in it too much! Stripey Hat Guy and Scotland's Mountains seem to enjoy it though so it's what I'm leaning towards, cheers for the tip!
My friends in NZ are in love with the Durston x-mid. It is currently sold out... 🙆🏻♀️ I have a cheaper tent which I'm very happy with, but I am looking also at the Tarptent Notch Li in the future, for the significantly reduced weight. 😊
I live in the states and have both the lanshan 2 and the lanshan 2 pro. They are both absolutely amazing tents. Not much more weight for the lanshan 2 which is double walled. (Inner and outer seperate) I originally had the lanshan 2 and bought it based on many reviews on TH-cam. The pro version came out and I checked reviews again. My wife and I backpack quite often and our dog goes with us. The dog sleeps with her in the lanshan and I use the lanshan 2 pro. She was using a cheap tent that did ok buy we never fully trusted it. When I bought the pro, she immediately asked if she could have the regular lanshan 2. I obviously said yes because it has been such a great tent. You can't go wrong with either one. Only reason I looked into the pro version was because I am a taller person and as I would sit up, my head would rub the mesh inner. Was never a real problem but with the pro version, that non problem is solved. We live in an area that had high humidity. We are about 3 hours away from the Appalachian trail. I can honestly say that condensation hasn't been as big of an issue with the pro as I thought it might. I've had it out in many rain storms. Fairly high winds and even some lighter snowstorms. Once I set mine up, I leave it alone until I'm ready to go to bed. I walk around and tighten everything slightly because, like you said, it will stretch and sag a little. I've had it set up next to some of the most expensive tents out there and people were amazed that the lanshan 2 pro and regular versions held up as good or better than their very expensive dyneema tents. Some complain about the doors being on opposite ends and for 2 people it really doesn't make sense. (Unless, you like to smell someone's feet) but for me alone with all my gear it's not a problem. It's also not a problem for my wife and our dog. We cook in the vestibules which are very large considering the size and weight of the tent. It's twice the weight of the tent it was designed after. But much much cheaper. Sure, a large door would be great but, that is where I believe this tent shines over the zpacks duplex. The duplex has that large mesh door on each side. When you unzip it, it falls inwards and you have to climb over it to get in your tent. These doors are smaller but they aren't falling in on your stuff. You can pitch the lanshan 2 pro pretty low to the ground. I've had the doors flush with the ground many times. The trade of there is a little more condensation. Overall, I don't think anyone could go wrong in buying thos tent if they want to save space and weight in their pack. The price is fantastic for what it is. Quality is good and seam sealing is easy. 45 minutes to an hour depending on how neat a person wants to be. I liked your approach to this video with this tent. Definitely, an aspect others haven't covered. Enjoy the tent. I know you will love it as much as I do. And, I'm sure it will amaze you with how well it holds up! For those that don't use trekking poles. They sell poles for the tent. Or, you can use 2 sticks cut at just the right height. Also, the pro can be attached with cordage to 2 trees without using any poles. I'm not a big fan of products made in China. But, 3F UL gear makes some.very good products! Our lanshan 2 is now 5 years old and still going strong. It's been out on trail hundreds of times for multi night trips. I got the pro early last year and it's been out on trail at least 100 nights and in all kinds of weather. These are amazing tents!
Thank you! your comments help alot. I usually camping in humid area, would you recommend the lanshan 2 or the pro version may I ask, for the condensation, as you have mentioned your head touch the mesh anyways
I bought the 3F UL Gear Lanshan 2 Two-person Double-skin 4 season. Condensation is not an issue with two skins, plus still extremely light. Fits me and my fiancée and two Trekology UL80 Camping Mats. Love this tent.
Don't think I ever buy backpacking gear without watching reviews on TH-cam, but the reason I love your videos so much is you really focus on windy UK weather and expose me to new gear and your advice is always super sound
I’ve got the non-Pro, two layer version. It’s not perfect & like you mentioned I’m wary of getting caught in really windy conditions in it, but for the weight it’s an ideal summer tent… I think of it as a tarp with bug mesh!
I bought one of these (in green) when the price dropped to ~£100 on AliExpress about a year ago. I've seam sealed it, apart from that it's never been used. I've not managed to get away hiking for more than 2 days, with 1 overnight camp, so not needed to be so strict with pack weight. The reason I've not been more enthusiastic about using it is I've seen UK wild campers using it in damp, windy conditions, and the wind knocks the condensation off the inside of the tent, making it shower inside. Fair enough, those incidences are few and far between, but if you need to pack a bivvy to compensate, then you may as well go for the non pro Lanshan.
Another good video Paul. I considered the Lanshan when going for a new tent recently but decided against the single skin and the fact that i rarely take walking poles. For ages I'd used a bargain £25 Eurohike Tamar 2 and still love that tent. never let me down, but watching tons of You Tubers and dozens of reviews i opted for The Nature Hike Cloud Peak 2. I'm so glad i did. I've used it half a dozen times now and and absolutely love it. Even looking at it when it's up sends a tingle down my spine. I'd never heard of it 12 months ago, but I was hugely influenced by You Tube. Any piece of kit i want to upgrade i now watch you guys, and find it amazingly helpful, and more than that. The videos are great fun to watch. Many thanks for what you and the other wild campers do for the rest of us.
Thanks Paul. I looked for a lightweight tent for the West Highland Way (which I did in May.. great experience) and was comparing this Pro version with the 2021 new version 230cm two-layered edition. The weight difference was minimal vs total pack weight and as others have said the seams come sealed from factory on the non-pro version which I ended up getting. On the trail it performed brilliantly, no problem with sleeping bag touching condensation, I attached additional guy cords to the loops over the poles, stayed up the wind, was ok to put up and really easy and quick to pack down small and loads of space. Only thing that annoyed me was the plastic hooks so I looped some elastic cord on one side and hooked it round the peg/stake (much easier to hook/unhook from inside the tent). Others have used the Zpacks metal hooks to do a mod but they're not cheap. Overall, the non-pro 2 person version was brilliant and great value.
I have the 2 skinned version and I seem sealed mine the same day it arrived with a mix of 50%aqaurium silicon and 50% mineral spirits mixed well in a jar and applied with a small paintbrush you dont need much , I then sat it in my garden for a month to rain test it and it never leaked once.
Got the non pro version double skin. Great tent been using it for 2 years hiking and motorcycle camping. I don't use trekking poles but have 2 light weight 125cm Alloy poles. Packs small, stands up to high winds, winter Inner is very warm, summer inner is very cool. I always watch youtubers. Its where I first seen this tent. You almost have me convinced on a jet boil!
I’ve just used this on the Fjällräven Classic Sweden, 3 season version was used , this tent is very very good and stood up to torrential rain and high wind. I had one minor leak, but I hadn’t seam sealed the tent. I will now seam seal and I am certain it will be even better. Lots of room and also I have used it in winter at around -10. I recommend it 100%
Paul if you don’t use trekking poles you can get lightweight poles to replace them. I do love the colour. It works well for a lot of different terrains. As to gear, I do research and check TH-cam for reviews. Unfortunately I was rather addicted to buying gear, but I’ve trimmed down and got rid of a lot of unnecessary gadgets, except for my beloved tiny pump!👍🏼
Yeah, I felt like I'd given in to glamping or some sort pf 'softie hiker' idea when I bought my little pump. I brought and used it it once and thought 'I don't care what people say, this is the best purchase I've ever made' haha. There's no way I'm getting rid of that now.
I have this tent but is doubled walled and love it, used it on dartmoor in freezing conditions and it was amazing .Have the one man version which I love even more. Very quick to put up and very light weight
Great vid Paul. I totally agree with what you said. The problem with that tent, especially for 3-4 seasons, is that the outer is about a foot off the ground. That's great for ventilation when it's summer, but crap for winter. There's no point them having a 4 season inner if the outer is a foot off the ground. They should have a 4 season tent as a whole where the outer reaches the floor. Lowering the pole height helps, but just doesn't cut it.
Yeah. It's not a 4 season tent. 3FUL certainly used to show these things in deep snow on high mountains which they are absolutely not suited for. For the UK it should go lower down and probably have a semi-solid inner. Nicer materials too. But for the money and considering these are not meant for the UK specifically they're excellent.
Watch the video. Here it's 6 inch max off the floor but obviously that can be adjusted with peg placing. With your limited camping knowledge it might be better avoiding winter anyway.
One of the advantages to a trekking pole tent (and what may make them so popular besides the price) is that if one of your trekking poles breaks, you can always use a sturdy stick. And it's far easier to replace a trekking pole than a tent pole, especially when you're on a 2000+ mile trek. Although the seems to be more of an advantage here in the States than in the UK. Most of the towns near to one of our long trails (like the AT or PCT) have either a Walmart, Target, or outdoor store where you can grab a trekking pole. As for buying tents, I'm more of a hammock guy, though there are trails and camping areas where a hammock just won't work. So, I look at the tents I'm considering, and then do a search on YT for reviews of it. And base my decision on those, plus other online reviews.
Thats a very good point. Also, with telescopic poles, should be easier to adjust the fabric tension after pegging. If it saggs overnight, should be possible to extend the poles a little in the morning from inside ?
Looks a useful tent Paul - nice and light. I put up with my Eurohike Backpacking tent, which is rather large and heavy. My bike takes the weight, but it gets me out camping. Thank you. You and Jo - Stay Safe.
I picked up a stratosphere Li after falling in love with the design, after using it for several trips I still think it's a great design. It's got plenty of room for all my cycling bags and is big enough to live in if the weather turns. I've used it for 14 nights in Scotland and it's had wind and rain thrown at it with no issue. Earlier this year I wanted a lighter weight tent for hiking, I went with a Zpacks Plex solo. I was very dubious about buying it, wind resistance, condensation etc. But as you said, if enough people say it's ok then it must be ok (and lots of the Americans are using them). After 10 nights of use in wind, rain, fog/cloud and sun I've yet to see any condensation in the tent. It was a bit of a shot in the dark for me but it's become my favourite tent.
Paul I watch you and a couple of other TH-camrs and search for buyers reviews. But your reviews are so user friendly. You’ve said something here that I didn’t think of. I’ve been looking at this tent for about 8 months been on the cusp but unsure - flag 1 - but then you said just one thing about if you’re not a walking pole person you wouldn’t bother and that’s it I’m not a walking pole person yet I was still considering this tent and thinking about learning to use poles, which I also were fond of. Cheers Paul you’ve helped me there.
"Dripping like a knackered fridge" - Totally stealing this 🤣 Thanks for the look at this. Have the one and two person versions (both non-pro, and I have the 3 season and 4 season inners for both) don't think the UK climate suits a single skin tent to be honest. I love these tents through and through, although they've kinda been killed in my eyes by my X-Mids. I don't think anything is going to take those tents from my favour. As for how I shop; with deep research. I trawl through forums and facebook groups looking for as many manufacturers as I can for that specific thing (e.g. trekking pole tents / tarps), then I look at their offerings and reviews. (Single skin kinda sucks in the UK). Then I compare pricing and features/extras (things that don't come seam sealed or guyed, things that come with ground sheets), at each step either removing options I don't like, or ranking the ones I do against each other. Generally I'm then left with 1-3 options which I then look for specific comparisons. Most of the time it comes down to personal preference between the top few (tarps and tent stoves for example), but in some cases there's one clear winner that seems to fit my criteria exactly (the X-Mids).
I have the double wall lanshan,2 with both inners and some carbon fibre poles for when I'm not carrying trekking poles. A little less space and s little extra weight , but having swappable inners depending on the weather I'm heading out in is nice. Still loads of space for me when I'm out. Weight is somewhere between 1100-1200g depending on which inner I take. Carbon fibre poles add 140g on top of that if I bring them.
No es muy cara, es ligera (no ultraligera), los materiales y acabados son buenos, ocupa poco volumen, apenas condensa, es fácil de plantar... Pese a no tener las costuras selladas es una excelente relación calidad-precio. Gracias por el vídeo, Paul!
Videos like this really do help me decide if I want to buy something. Getting a good look at everything. I get the youtubers opinion and thoughts that I may not have considered but also being able to see every inch of the product from all angles I'm able to spot things that maybe they haven't mentioned or considered. I'd generally watch a few, compare to similar products and then decide if I'm into it.
I personally can't stand soaking wet fly with condensation flapping wet droplets all over sleeping bag n kit... So having tried the lanshan pro s ... I sold em both 1 n 2... I don't wanna wake up wet in my tent ... And yes I tried sponges etc ... The trouble is.. the whole inside feels wet. I much prefer the Sierra designs high route
I do a combo - Quick look a price range on general retailer websites; then read general blogs/reviews of tents for my needs; then also look at reviews of specific items on retailer websites and try and determine which are appropriate (understanding that sometimes people just have a bad experience or unreasonable expectations, or actually not that familiar/practical with camping/specific types of tents). Then look for offers and discounts.
I've got the double-layer Lanshan 2 and I chose that because I'm a bit of a steam train when I sleep. Regrettably I've only had occasion to use it once as I haven't had any good chances to go camping for a while. The one time I've used it though, I was very happy with it. Loads of room and 1.2kg is really hard to beat at the price. When it comes to research before buying, I can get almost obsessive. TH-cam videos, google searches for reviews, comments sections. And then for multiple products, too. For a long time I was saying 'never a trekking pole tent' because I didn't want to rely on having to bring them. But I found I always bring them anyway even if I don't expect to need them - sometimes my knees just benefit from that bit of support. So if I'm always carrying them, may as well give them more to do. And as a sort of aside; it's a tent where you can grab a large stick from the forest and use that if you need to and it'll be as good anyway.
I watch a few videos before buying a product. Once I've found enough 'evidence' that it would suit my use case, I make the purchase. But there are times when I get a little too excited by a product and buy it anyway, only to later discover that I didn't really need it :-). I certainly trust your reviews though, Paul. Keep em coming - love the channel.
The zipper arrangement has long been a source of angst with us Lanshan 2 fans....however they stuck to the j type door probably to keep the weight down. The four season inner really does work.... i have one on my standard Lanshan 2 and i measured a 20F degree difference between inside and out one night (frigid 26 F to a sleep-able 46 F (-3 C --> 8 C )) Im surprised you not a fan of trekking poles.... they really do work if you learn to use them properly .... especially good on down hill sections where it really starts telling on the knees.... great review as always Paul 👍👍
Actually I've bought a lot of kit after seeing your videos. Obviously know your stuff and if you say it's good enough..... that's good enough for me. Keep up the good work/great videos
I made a choice between the Lanshan and the DD Pyramid XL tent. In the end I went for the DD tent. After over 30 days in it (not all together, but did do 10 in a row recently) I don’t regret my choice. However if I bought the Lanshan instead, I’m sure I’d be happy with that as well. Great review as ever, I watch TH-camrs and talk to others who are hiking with similar tents. Then I talk to my bank manager to see what the budget is.
The only tent I've ever bought - happy with my purchase - a well designed and hardy tent - had it stand up to 50mph winds on Kinder Scout. Probably not great in really cold or snowy conditions but I'm no expert.
Hi Paul, I live in Ireland and the weather here is similar to the UK. I agree with you regarding a two skin tent being more appropriate for UK weather. I think your review was fair and appeared unbiased. Thanks for the review.
I have been happy with my Paria Bryce 1p. I have not made the leap to a trekking pole tent, but I may have to give this tent a try. Thanks for the honest walkthrough.
Good video Paul. Thanks for your time spent researching all of this stuff. I used to spend a lot of time doing the same but hardly have time like I used to. First, I typically trust and support my local outdoor gear shop. If I’m looking for something cheaper & they only carry items that are too “high-end” for what I’m looking for (rain tarp, air mattress, titanium mug, etc.) then I’ll also dig into the manufacturer, quality, reviews, forums, talk with friends, and compare specs, etc. This sometimes leads me back to the local store to get the item that costs more than I wanted to spend to begin with, because of the quality (or weight, mfg rep, etc.) because they are after all, an outfitter for a reason.
In answer to your question about buying blind...I personally rely heavily on you tube and videos such as yours. I'm not in a position to waste money so value honest reviews. Thanks for another great video, I'm very tempted by this Lanshan tent however I don't like the amount of ground clearance and also the fact after spending £150+ buying it you still need to silicon all the seams, this is something I feel the manufacturer should of done. For roughly the same money the Vango Banshee for me is much better. Thanks for the insight Regards Rob 👍
I researched nearly two years before buying my tent. I like the look of this company's tent and have seen vids on this Pro model and the standard one (fly and body). I doubt I'll get one since I paid a high price for my current 3-man 4 season tent. If I get the funds I might sometime. It is always nice to see new reviews and I trust your advice as much or more than others. Thanks. Take Care and Stay Safe.
Well personally I spend a lot of time reading reviews on products and watching as many videos on TH-cam about the product as possible....especially your channel Paul its straight talking honest stuff and that's what I want. I love my pro 2 but only for summer, just took the plunge after many video watching and reviews to buy the fjallraven abisko lite 2 for winter, again I particularly looked at bushman and blue for this as Al uses fjallraven a lot. You're a good guy Paul keep doing g what you are doing pal.
Hiya Paul...Pick up a lanshan 2 pro just to save a little weight on our multiday hikes so will be using it on the cotswold way next week..Done a couple of mods to it mainly removing the plastic ram head clips just for easier access...Have got concerns about condensation but hopefully won't be too bad ...All the best👍🏻
I recently bought this one, but in green. I haven't seam-sealed it yet but I'm itching to take it out sometime in the fall. I've had the Lanshan 1 Pro for about a year and a half now and used it in just about every kind of environment and season. I've camped in it in pine forests, on an island after a day of fishing, out near the Swedish mountains Sylarna (alpine environment, windy as heck), in the snow and most recently in Norway on a hike to Glittertinden at 2452 meters above sea level. And so on. It's held up extremely well, even when subjected to some serious gusts up in the mountains. (I wouldn't recommend using it in such environments unless you know what you're doing) It punches way above it's price. The stitching on mine is perfect, the materials feel really sturdy and you know you can trust the YKK zippers. Overall, superb tents! Only thing I would replace is the plastic hook at the doors, as that is a weak point. I took mine off and put a small carabiner here instead so I can easily unhook one or both sides. After that I no longer have to worry about this plastic hook failing.
Did you hike the full Jämtland triangle, or only Sylarna? I'm going on my first solo hike there at the end of the month, the triangle and the Sylen peak.
@@TheAngieStoned We only did the 16km hike to the mountain station STF Sylarna and then set up shop for the night once we'd arrived. Then we went for a day-hike to the top, then spent the evening at the station having drinks, food etc. And then 16km back to the car the next day, back home via Åre. I went to Sylarna twice in 2021 and the weather was very unpredictable both times, with near constant winds near the station which meant you had to find something that would block some of the wind. It seems like the shape of the valley the station sits in acts as a funnel for wind and rain. Anyways. It's an easy area to hike in and the day hike to the top is fairly easy, but does give you some splendid views. You shouldn't have any problems.
@@FuttFel Nice, cheers for that! I'm well excited, just hoping for some decent weather. I've got a house a few hours south, so it's about bloody time I made it up there.
@@TheAngieStoned We had to drive 7 hours to get there, so that's nice! Just make sure to bring good rain gear. The first time, we got rained on so hard we all got soaked and had to dry ourselves and our clothes for 2 hours at the station before resuming our hike home. Lesson learned, brought a good set of rain gear on the second trip. And got no rain, of course. I brought a Sea to Summit Nano Poncho the first time, but the winds made it nearly impossible to use properly.
I have the 2-layer non-pro version, 3 years old now. Seam-sealed it myself (badly). Just got back from a week-long hike in the lake district where every stop was a night-long torrential downpour of rain. Damn thing didn't let a drip through. So impressed. When it finally wears out I will deffo but another.
I do a lot of research on youtube and talk to people who has the product I want get there opinion on it first I do completely agree with your review on this tent yes you are it’s not for everyone great review Paul
I did the coast to coast last year with the 2 layer version and it performed really well in some challenging wet and windy conditions I looked at your channel and others and was pleased with my choices on the back of those recommendations , my friend is now about to do the c2c with the Durston x so be good to see how the tents compare, great job you are doing
Cheers Paul. When looking to buy something new, I look to see which of the wild campers/bushcrafters I follow use it too. Then I'll go off and do some extra resaeach myself as well. Looking at ratings and comments from places like youtube and amzon and ebay etc.
It is a popular tent. I don’t know why many TH-camrs say they can not stand up in high wind. I have a Naturehike CloudUp and people say the same thing. Recently took it up a mountain (3000m) and camped in gale force winds. It was pretty exposed for 2 nights. Tent handled it no problem, including the night I set it up wrong. The tent poles were flexing and smacking me in the head, yet bounced back and were not bent or broken.
for my appalachian trail thru hike attempt, i did months of research using youtube, blogs, and facebook groups. my pick was the Zpacks duplex and loved the tent and had no issues with over 1300 miles. switched to a hammock system now and have not looked back. now getting ready for the Arizona Trail and will be using a Durston Xmid 1 trekking pole tent until i can get to an area with trees lol
Very nice review Paul, many thanks for sharing. In answer to your question at the end of your video, most of my kit is bought after you have reviewed it. You always give an impartial view of the kit you review and that’s what I look for. Champion buddy, we’ll done.
This is why we watch you m8, always in new/different tents and always explain thing well, you do a cracking review on products m8 hope to see you back out camping soon and if your fancying a local hike I'd be up for it m8 👍
Good informative vid . I use the trekking pole tents and don't find condensation a problem , the trouble with sil nylon it stretches and soaks up the water , but this style of tent can hold up to windy conditions. I own a zpacks duplex and it's one or even the best tent I've owned same style ten set up and it held up easy in 40 mph winds as long its pitched correctly to the wind . Only trouble with the lanshan is the bath tub walls are not very high and seem to sag, but bang on for the money But I always say you get what you pay for 98% of the time , in do agree always research, and everyone is different,
Written reviews on manufacturer's websites, outdoor gear stores or amazon are less and less trustworthy. Some people who purchase gear have very little idea how to use it correctly depending on their experience or requirements. I tend to scrutinized both overly positive or negative reviews and look for some sort of consistent remarks. They may purchase a single wall tent or trekking pole tent and fail to understand causes of condensation or how to choose a proper site for the gear they've acquired. I love to follow youtubers and keep up with the latest technology in backpacking (wild camping) gear. If I see something that I'd be willing to purchase, I like to see side by side comparisons, for example how two similar 4 season tents may hold up in terrain and weather that really puts them to the test. Those comparisons often reveal practical tips and advice on how to best use the gear and avoid user error or make brilliant modifications. When all is said and done, nothing beats actual experience with the gear. Taking it out and putting it through its paces will reveal personal pros and cons depending upon the trip and stress put on such gear. Everyone has a different threshold for acceptable performance, temperatures, weight, etc. There is never a one size fits all. I may have a piece of gear that I think is brilliant, but it will never suit others I hike with. Their needs and comforts differ wildly from my own. We can only thank folks like you who offer honest opinions and show actual experience with different brands. We need to realistically set our expectations for performance and know our skill sets. As for the Lanshan products, I've never been attracted to them after gaining experience with DCF tents and products. I just don't like how they tend to stretch and perform. I am willing to make a few trade offs in order to go lighter weight with DCF. It's definitely not for everyone though as it is a bit noisy and expensive. As I search for my ideal winter set up, I'll most likely go with something other than DCF, like the Scarp 1 with poles. Another recent example is my decision to purchase an origami type folding kayak from ORU. Some of my kayaking friends look at it and say they'd never have such a thing. I take it out and enjoy it much more than my hard shell kayak because of convenience and fun. It never fails to draw attention and plenty of curious people with questions. As soon as I let friends take it out for a test paddle, they fall in love. Still, its not going to tackle any wild white water rapids or the such, but that's not why I like it.
Another thorough and honest review, thanks Paul. Love you channel mate. I had a Six Moons Designs Lunar Duo a few years ago, which is the tent the Lanshan is modeled on. It was a condensation nightmare, and I sold it on after a three night trip where it never stopped raining and as a result, never dried out. I've given up on single skin tents since then - nothing quite so fun as getting into a tent in the rain and finding the ground sheet still full of puddles.
For me TH-cam camping scene is divided into two camps: adventure and gear. I usually get an idea for what gear I want to get from adventure videos, and then zero in on the perfect piece of equipment by looking up reviews on channels such as yours, TOGR, etc. But sometimes I'm limited by what I can get in Poland 😅
We've got the doubled walled version and used for for our 'through-hike' of the West Highland Way in April. We were lucky with the weather, but were very pleased with how the Lanshan worked for the two of us. I've made a couple of mods to the guy lines, as we didn't get on with the door hook, and bought a couple of longer groundhog stakes for the main guylines as I wasn't confident in the little stakes it came with. Very pleased with what we have now, can't wait to get out with it again.
Darwin and Dixie are definitely two of the most influential hiking TH-camrs here in the U.S., but I picked one of these tents up (got the 3 season non-pro version) after my hiking partner has used one for 3 years and loves hers. I have a 1p trekking pole tent, but it is not very spacious and doesn't have a decent vestibule. I've only set this tent up once. It takes up much more space than my 1P, but it weighs the same and it is really a well-made tent. Will be getting it on some adventures soon. I section hike the Appalachian Trail and the New England Trail, and many people have this tent.
I only use 1 trekking pole - I tried 2 but can't get used to it. So I'm thinking about the Lanshan 1 with the 4-season inner. I'd never use a single-skin tent in the UK, just too humid. But for weight, pack-size and price the Lanshans are stunning value. As for choosing, I prefer to find a stockist and get a good look and feel. But nowadays there are few stockists with erected tents to look at and even fewer stocking things like the Lanshans or Naturehikes so TH-cam is the only option. Just be sure to watch more than a couple of videos, especially if they are sponsored!
It's a bit of both for me. I do research on TH-cam and elsewhere online to read other people's experiences and reviews. I also trust my gut feeling when it comes to purchases that I feel I need to commit on. I've had the dual layer version of this one for about a year now, with both inners (3 + 4 season), and I've used it year-round switching between both. My intention was to purchase an "all-round" tent. Very happy with it! One thing I dislike about this tent though is that you need a proper spot with decent soil to pitch it.
Thanks for the video! 3F UL Gear has updated their Lanshan Pro starting with their 2023 models, they are now using a T-Door fly instead of the L-Door fly that only enables you to open up the fly on the left. To me, this is a huge deal and it was one of the few drawbacks I have with my current Lanshan. Can you do a review on the new model T-Door Lanshan Pro, Paul? There are really no reviews out there for it and I think it’s a huge improvement.
Drippin' like a nackered fridge 😆 🤣 . Cheers Paul, another excellent video. You have convinced me to research this tent. To answer your question - i do an awful lot of research before buying gear - it's half the fun for me. Videos, reviews, articles with lists of 'top 10 X' etc. Occasionally I'll find something everyone agrees on (thermarest x-therm for example). All the best 👍
Using the normal 2p Version for multiple years and hikes. On the GR20 we had several nights with hard storm on high altitude. Loud but always good protected nights. There was a Guy with your pro model. Also worked perfectly fine for him. All the material and manufactoring of the seams is high qualitiy. Today, because of the price increase i would try get an x-mid 2. I think that comes with the higher popolarity. 4 years ago i payed 95 Euro for my lanshan 2 and in the end i never (!) had any issues. So good value. Just one thing: don't go for the white color. It took much longer to dry 😉
I do a lot of ‘TH-cam research’ before I buy camping gear because I usually buy it online. But you have to be careful. Like your channel, there are people who use the gear. But there some channels here in the US with high subscriber counts that don’t even use a tent but gives ‘reviews’ I saw a TH-camr set up a tent in the rain, and come out of his house once in awhile to look inside to see if it’s leaking. In the whole video I never saw him actually get inside the tent! Yeah, his reviews have zero credibility with me. So be careful what you see on social media. Keep up the good work, I enjoy going along on your travels!
I'm excited for this upload. Not sure but I haven't seen any notifications for your channel in a long while. Either way ! I hope to see more again soon! Cheers Mate!
I got a North Face Stormbreak 3 for about $165 on sale. It’s durable and heavy at about 5 1/2 pounds. Much heavier fabric. I hike with my boys and each carry a part. I have used it for five years so far.
Really informative Paul. Glad to hear you say rucksack and long walk, these American words do my head in (super) big time! 😀 I used to sell outdoor clothing so have a decent knowledge but still watch loads of videos on here before buying anything.
I on a whim ish started the penne way last year and did it with a lot of stuff I had acquired over the years including a vango f10 ultralight with was great if seeming a little flimsy it performed well tho and cost me only £150. However while out there ALL the pros seemed to have the lanshan pro. So in typical style on my return I kitted myself out with all the gear I wish I had bought before going including the lanshan pro, Ive only used it once and you need to take a small towel flannel for the condensation but its huge easy to put up feels utilitarian robust and is as light as the f10. So far I'm not disappointed though I've not yet found out how good a job at seam sealing I made. bloody hard to get hold of tho I ended up ordering from a South African reseller.
This was on my hit list but I actually managed to get a X-mid p2 solid, (which arrived 4 days ago). It's expensive, especially when you add £106 import duty but boy what a tent. It's not hard to see why the latest batch sold out in just over 2 minutes. That said, if I hasn't managed to get the x-mid, I would have bought one of these tents. For price & weight, this is one hell of a tent. Great video Paul 😊
If you get the OneTigris Tangram, the mesh doors have a T-zipper and opens fully on both sides. I got the Tangram because of that feature. It’s about a pound heavier, but seems more durable than the Lanshan.
Same here, I went for the OneTigris Tangram for similar reasons. Bit more weight but twin-skin, a bit thicker material and the fully opening inner door. Only thing that worries me a bit is the lack of guy points on the main sides like the Lanshan but haven’t fully tested it yet.
@@paulcrankshaw2712 I’m testing my tent for the first time today. I just saw a video with Outdoor Vitals and they’re including clip-on guylines with their new tents. I’m going to see if they sell them separately to add guy out points if needed.
You should always look at reviews and research to know what your getting for your money and if it will meet your criteria. I always thoroughly look for information on products before buying. Although most shopping is done online it’s always nice to see things in person, which why TH-cam videos can be such a huge help toward making a decision on buying a product.
Bit late on this one, but I just bought a Luxe* Hexpeak V4A for up here in Scotland. My big worry was tents that would handle the wind we can get (especially since I want to bag some monro's while I'm at it). I went through lots of reviews and that or the Vango Banshee seemed like the two best ones. In the end I went with the hexpeak due to the lager vestibule, lighter weight, ability to change the inner with a 3rd party inner (asta xinxue) if I ever felt the need. And probably most importantly, I couldn't find the Banshee in stock anywhere. For me it was important to get it right first time. I don't have the cash to be buying more than one. So youtubers where important, for their reviews and getting to see what it was like being taken out in similar conditions to what I would expect. *NB: Problems with Luxe supply, delivery and customer support are only from the US supplier. UK and EU distributors are not connected with the US one. I say this as I had a panic when I found out, but I can personally attest to the UK distributor being quick with great customer support, and I have heard good things about the EU one. Just a shame that the US supplier is a bit of a ... well... a very bad word.
wicked piece of kit, i love mine, had my lanshan 2 pro 12 months but not had it out in the rain yet so im not sure my seam sealing has worked, i did a great job to look at it
Same as you Paul : YT, opinions/experience on FB & Reddit groups, Internet reviews and specs. That led me from the MSR HH NX2 (until it passed on from old age) to the Lanshan 2 (not the Pro!), the NH Taga 2 when I needed a tent quickly but not as my main tent, and then the Durston X-Mid 2 next up. I also concoct a spreadsheet to compare specs and rate them. It's been a proven process so far.
When it's windy or going to snow, you would lower the poles to get rid of that gap between the door and the floor. Still end up with a good amount of head room.
Yeah, you can: I do this with my Lanshan 1. However, the way the fly is cut at the vestibule means you can have all the other fly edges on the floor, but there's still a gap where the rams head clip is on the door. It's how they designed it, gives good airflow.
Currently sleeping in my Lanshan 1 Pro. Shave off another 250g. It's my summer / fair weather tent. In these conditions, I spend most of the time outside and only go in for sleeping. The single-wall otherwise is just not great in the UK and I resort to other tents.
I watch loads of videos before buying a tent and read lots of reviews. Was out this week with my Vango Nevis 200 and had a great time. Decent size, decent price and not too heavy, although the Lanshan does tempt me from the size and weight perspective.
Good to hear I have went for the cairngorm 200. Yet to break it out and use it yet though. I went for the cairngorm over the nevis due to a slightly better waterproof rating but they seem essentially the same.
Why is it sold a four season tent with large gaps for wind and bad weather to come under and it not even water tight 🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️ is this not miss selling? Another great video Paul and good to see you out doing videos
Hi, I like the 3*3 meter dd hamrock celta file, otherwise you have to clean everything carefully loops, lined things on this tent so that you don't get wet there after a while.Another thing, spray everything you have (clothes, equipment, tent) with a suitable agent against various crawling small parasites from the forest...But paint the seams first!!!
Hi Paul - thanks for the video. I have a Lanshan 2 which I bought earlier this year. It is dual skinned so I have less of a condensation problem. Videos such as yours definitely were a big source of info in my selection process. I was buying the tent to do some wild camping walks up in the hills. The big pros for the Lanshan were weight and price (equating to lower risk too, if it didn't work out). I have since used the tent in the Lakes and was a bit frustrated with it. I failed to sleep through a few windy nights where the poles often slipped from their ridge positions collapsing the tent. I used Fizan Compact trekking poles which have a sloping top to the handle which may have been a factor as I hadn't seen this raised as an issue with the tent anywhere else. I'm hoping to fix this in future with a couple of self adhesive velcro patches in each corner - the spiky bit on the tent and the woolly bit on the top of the trekking pole. It works nicely in the garden, I just hope the adhesive is good enough. The tent is also quite flappy in the wind, there is an excellent video demonstrating this by Outlawed Landscapes here th-cam.com/video/HRbkuhdUlP4/w-d-xo.html. As you suggested, you can make the tent more windproof by dropping it down closer to the ground, but for taller folk with the inner tent version, you then have the inner tent a lot closer to your head when sleeping. It only takes a little bit of wind to have the inner flapping on your head. So, not great for wind, but in calm conditions it works well. Also, I did pre-seal mine and it kept me dry through some rainy nights.
Me and my wife got the lanshan after watching haze outdoors in Scotland but brought a cloudup3 because it looked nice, both are great do like the cloudup3 a little bit more though
I bought a 3F UL backpack this week and I was really amazed by it's price/quality ratio. I'd probably go for this tent if I hadn't just bought a Robens Starlight 2 while waiting for the Durston Xmid 1. How many tents would you need anyway lol.
Got howling wind and rain on one of the Brecon Beacons in my Lanshan, shat myself in bed but the Lanshan did hold, I think the simplicity of its shape helps a lot in handling bad weather. I will say the double skin version does make the difference keeping me dry, bun single skin tents they are not worth the hassle
this is a good tent. ive had it in use this summer starting from lapland in the early june. the temperature was around about -1c at mornings but i stayed warm in the tent. the 3 season tents mesh is so tight it keeps some wind out too. id recommend to use some kind of ground cloth just in case if youre camping on rocky terrain
I've used mine in the rain a couple of time and it didn't leak even though I did not seem seal it. I will get around to doing it eventually though for peace of mind.
Paul, another good video. The buying process - reviews from decent UK magazines and TH-camrs, then reviews from abroad (as products may differ despite having the same name), then double check manufacturers website, then see it for real if you can. Then buy it....
Hi Paul, thanks for reviewing. Looks great for long treks, but my wild camping will involve packing everything onto my KTM mortorcycle and heading for the hills/woods etc., so weight isn't such an issue. When it comes to selecting gear, I always turn to my favourite TH-camrs to see what they're using or recommending.
Please check out The FEAR of solo CAMPING th-cam.com/video/dVgeCYO0H0Q/w-d-xo.html
Ok, just to warn you, do not get single layer version of this tent. You are going to be miserable. We had one of driest weeks during summer and me and my father tried to sleep in this tent. My father run away home, I slept in bivy outside of this tent, because condensation was so bad that water was dripping on my face, but there was no rain for three weeks.
In the morning I had to dry out the tent, it was absolutely worse tent experience I ever had.
Hi Paul I can concur with your review. I have used the lanshan 2 for nearly 100 nights, including 30 days on the Scottish national trail and 30 days on the Colorado trail. It has stood up to 60 mph winds, fierce thunderstorms and heavy prolonged rain. The materials it is made from are excellent and have lasted superbly, including the groundsheet. It is also very flexible, can be pitched outer first and opened up in warm weather. Easily the best value tent I have had.
Used a Lanshan 1 (2021 version) on my South West Coastal Path walk in March/April this year. Wild camped for 42 nights. Stood up to everything thrown at it. It works. Under a Kg
Great tent
Doing that walk next year! If you could give one tip, what would it be? :)
When it gets tough, be kind to yourself 😃😎
For any information look me up 👍
Amazing
Did you bother with the footprint?
@@mouldyteeth yeah. For the little amount of weight I found it easier to test potential spots and gave me confidence when I was chucking it down on less than perfect areas. Bracken, tough weeds 😃😎
Step 1: Research the one you want
Step 2: Crippling doubt
Step 3: Look at alternatives
Step 4: Repeat step 2
Step 5: Buy the one you want and cross everything you were right
Jokes aside, I think the issue with tents (and other gear) you can't really test them for yourself first and its quite pricey so hunting for a bargain takes extra time on top of everything else
This rings very true, I'm in decision paralysis between a Scarp 1 and XMid 1p, I'm just really hoping I get to see one lurking on a campsite soon
stuck at steps 2-3-4 🙂
@@_NickB_ I can recommend the Scarp 1. Imported mine from Henry Shires in US. I thought Paul had one earlier this year but have not seen him use it in months.
@@johnmcguire6939 that's what worries me, he was saying it's his dream tent but then doesn't seem to have been out in it too much! Stripey Hat Guy and Scotland's Mountains seem to enjoy it though so it's what I'm leaning towards, cheers for the tip!
My friends in NZ are in love with the Durston x-mid. It is currently sold out... 🙆🏻♀️
I have a cheaper tent which I'm very happy with, but I am looking also at the Tarptent Notch Li in the future, for the significantly reduced weight. 😊
I live in the states and have both the lanshan 2 and the lanshan 2 pro. They are both absolutely amazing tents. Not much more weight for the lanshan 2 which is double walled. (Inner and outer seperate) I originally had the lanshan 2 and bought it based on many reviews on TH-cam. The pro version came out and I checked reviews again. My wife and I backpack quite often and our dog goes with us. The dog sleeps with her in the lanshan and I use the lanshan 2 pro. She was using a cheap tent that did ok buy we never fully trusted it. When I bought the pro, she immediately asked if she could have the regular lanshan 2. I obviously said yes because it has been such a great tent. You can't go wrong with either one. Only reason I looked into the pro version was because I am a taller person and as I would sit up, my head would rub the mesh inner. Was never a real problem but with the pro version, that non problem is solved. We live in an area that had high humidity. We are about 3 hours away from the Appalachian trail. I can honestly say that condensation hasn't been as big of an issue with the pro as I thought it might. I've had it out in many rain storms. Fairly high winds and even some lighter snowstorms. Once I set mine up, I leave it alone until I'm ready to go to bed. I walk around and tighten everything slightly because, like you said, it will stretch and sag a little. I've had it set up next to some of the most expensive tents out there and people were amazed that the lanshan 2 pro and regular versions held up as good or better than their very expensive dyneema tents. Some complain about the doors being on opposite ends and for 2 people it really doesn't make sense. (Unless, you like to smell someone's feet) but for me alone with all my gear it's not a problem. It's also not a problem for my wife and our dog. We cook in the vestibules which are very large considering the size and weight of the tent. It's twice the weight of the tent it was designed after. But much much cheaper. Sure, a large door would be great but, that is where I believe this tent shines over the zpacks duplex. The duplex has that large mesh door on each side. When you unzip it, it falls inwards and you have to climb over it to get in your tent. These doors are smaller but they aren't falling in on your stuff. You can pitch the lanshan 2 pro pretty low to the ground. I've had the doors flush with the ground many times. The trade of there is a little more condensation. Overall, I don't think anyone could go wrong in buying thos tent if they want to save space and weight in their pack. The price is fantastic for what it is. Quality is good and seam sealing is easy. 45 minutes to an hour depending on how neat a person wants to be. I liked your approach to this video with this tent. Definitely, an aspect others haven't covered. Enjoy the tent. I know you will love it as much as I do. And, I'm sure it will amaze you with how well it holds up!
For those that don't use trekking poles. They sell poles for the tent. Or, you can use 2 sticks cut at just the right height. Also, the pro can be attached with cordage to 2 trees without using any poles. I'm not a big fan of products made in China. But, 3F UL gear makes some.very good products! Our lanshan 2 is now 5 years old and still going strong. It's been out on trail hundreds of times for multi night trips. I got the pro early last year and it's been out on trail at least 100 nights and in all kinds of weather. These are amazing tents!
Thank you! your comments help alot. I usually camping in humid area, would you recommend the lanshan 2 or the pro version may I ask, for the condensation, as you have mentioned your head touch the mesh anyways
I bought the 3F UL Gear Lanshan 2 Two-person Double-skin 4 season. Condensation is not an issue with two skins, plus still extremely light.
Fits me and my fiancée and two Trekology UL80 Camping Mats.
Love this tent.
Don't think I ever buy backpacking gear without watching reviews on TH-cam, but the reason I love your videos so much is you really focus on windy UK weather and expose me to new gear and your advice is always super sound
I’ve got the non-Pro, two layer version. It’s not perfect & like you mentioned I’m wary of getting caught in really windy conditions in it, but for the weight it’s an ideal summer tent… I think of it as a tarp with bug mesh!
I bought one of these (in green) when the price dropped to ~£100 on AliExpress about a year ago. I've seam sealed it, apart from that it's never been used. I've not managed to get away hiking for more than 2 days, with 1 overnight camp, so not needed to be so strict with pack weight. The reason I've not been more enthusiastic about using it is I've seen UK wild campers using it in damp, windy conditions, and the wind knocks the condensation off the inside of the tent, making it shower inside. Fair enough, those incidences are few and far between, but if you need to pack a bivvy to compensate, then you may as well go for the non pro Lanshan.
I totally agree
Another good video Paul. I considered the Lanshan when going for a new tent recently but decided against the single skin and the fact that i rarely take walking poles. For ages I'd used a bargain £25 Eurohike Tamar 2 and still love that tent. never let me down, but watching tons of You Tubers and dozens of reviews i opted for The Nature Hike Cloud Peak 2. I'm so glad i did. I've used it half a dozen times now and and absolutely love it. Even looking at it when it's up sends a tingle down my spine. I'd never heard of it 12 months ago, but I was hugely influenced by You Tube. Any piece of kit i want to upgrade i now watch you guys, and find it amazingly helpful, and more than that. The videos are great fun to watch. Many thanks for what you and the other wild campers do for the rest of us.
For your experience, naturehike cloud up 2 better than lanshan pro?
Thanks Paul. I looked for a lightweight tent for the West Highland Way (which I did in May.. great experience) and was comparing this Pro version with the 2021 new version 230cm two-layered edition. The weight difference was minimal vs total pack weight and as others have said the seams come sealed from factory on the non-pro version which I ended up getting. On the trail it performed brilliantly, no problem with sleeping bag touching condensation, I attached additional guy cords to the loops over the poles, stayed up the wind, was ok to put up and really easy and quick to pack down small and loads of space. Only thing that annoyed me was the plastic hooks so I looped some elastic cord on one side and hooked it round the peg/stake (much easier to hook/unhook from inside the tent). Others have used the Zpacks metal hooks to do a mod but they're not cheap. Overall, the non-pro 2 person version was brilliant and great value.
I have the 2 skinned version and I seem sealed mine the same day it arrived with a mix of 50%aqaurium silicon and 50% mineral spirits mixed well in a jar and applied with a small paintbrush you dont need much , I then sat it in my garden for a month to rain test it and it never leaked once.
Got the non pro version double skin. Great tent been using it for 2 years hiking and motorcycle camping. I don't use trekking poles but have 2 light weight 125cm Alloy poles. Packs small, stands up to high winds, winter Inner is very warm, summer inner is very cool. I always watch youtubers. Its where I first seen this tent. You almost have me convinced on a jet boil!
I’ve just used this on the Fjällräven Classic Sweden, 3 season version was used , this tent is very very good and stood up to torrential rain and high wind. I had one minor leak, but I hadn’t seam sealed the tent. I will now seam seal and I am certain it will be even better. Lots of room and also I have used it in winter at around -10. I recommend it 100%
Paul if you don’t use trekking poles you can get lightweight poles to replace them.
I do love the colour. It works well for a lot of different terrains.
As to gear, I do research and check TH-cam for reviews.
Unfortunately I was rather addicted to buying gear, but I’ve trimmed down and got rid of a lot of unnecessary gadgets, except for my beloved tiny pump!👍🏼
Yeah, I felt like I'd given in to glamping or some sort pf 'softie hiker' idea when I bought my little pump. I brought and used it it once and thought 'I don't care what people say, this is the best purchase I've ever made' haha. There's no way I'm getting rid of that now.
@@jens-kristiantofthansen9376 makes camping so effortless 👍🏼
I have this tent but is doubled walled and love it, used it on dartmoor in freezing conditions and it was amazing .Have the one man version which I love even more. Very quick to put up and very light weight
Great vid Paul. I totally agree with what you said. The problem with that tent, especially for 3-4 seasons, is that the outer is about a foot off the ground. That's great for ventilation when it's summer, but crap for winter. There's no point them having a 4 season inner if the outer is a foot off the ground. They should have a 4 season tent as a whole where the outer reaches the floor. Lowering the pole height helps, but just doesn't cut it.
Yeah. It's not a 4 season tent. 3FUL certainly used to show these things in deep snow on high mountains which they are absolutely not suited for. For the UK it should go lower down and probably have a semi-solid inner. Nicer materials too. But for the money and considering these are not meant for the UK specifically they're excellent.
Watch the video. Here it's 6 inch max off the floor but obviously that can be adjusted with peg placing. With your limited camping knowledge it might be better avoiding winter anyway.
I love mine.
I got the lanshan 2 , the double wall.
Even got a winter liner for it .
One of the advantages to a trekking pole tent (and what may make them so popular besides the price) is that if one of your trekking poles breaks, you can always use a sturdy stick. And it's far easier to replace a trekking pole than a tent pole, especially when you're on a 2000+ mile trek. Although the seems to be more of an advantage here in the States than in the UK. Most of the towns near to one of our long trails (like the AT or PCT) have either a Walmart, Target, or outdoor store where you can grab a trekking pole.
As for buying tents, I'm more of a hammock guy, though there are trails and camping areas where a hammock just won't work. So, I look at the tents I'm considering, and then do a search on YT for reviews of it. And base my decision on those, plus other online reviews.
Thats a very good point. Also, with telescopic poles, should be easier to adjust the fabric tension after pegging. If it saggs overnight, should be possible to extend the poles a little in the morning from inside ?
@@TheScotsalan Absolutely. Although it'll affect the peak height the most, it will help ret-ension the sides a bit.
Looks a useful tent Paul - nice and light. I put up with my Eurohike Backpacking tent, which is rather large and heavy. My bike takes the weight, but it gets me out camping. Thank you. You and Jo - Stay Safe.
I picked up a stratosphere Li after falling in love with the design, after using it for several trips I still think it's a great design. It's got plenty of room for all my cycling bags and is big enough to live in if the weather turns. I've used it for 14 nights in Scotland and it's had wind and rain thrown at it with no issue.
Earlier this year I wanted a lighter weight tent for hiking, I went with a Zpacks Plex solo. I was very dubious about buying it, wind resistance, condensation etc. But as you said, if enough people say it's ok then it must be ok (and lots of the Americans are using them). After 10 nights of use in wind, rain, fog/cloud and sun I've yet to see any condensation in the tent. It was a bit of a shot in the dark for me but it's become my favourite tent.
Paul I watch you and a couple of other TH-camrs and search for buyers reviews. But your reviews are so user friendly. You’ve said something here that I didn’t think of. I’ve been looking at this tent for about 8 months been on the cusp but unsure - flag 1 - but then you said just one thing about if you’re not a walking pole person you wouldn’t bother and that’s it I’m not a walking pole person yet I was still considering this tent and thinking about learning to use poles, which I also were fond of.
Cheers Paul you’ve helped me there.
"Dripping like a knackered fridge" - Totally stealing this 🤣
Thanks for the look at this. Have the one and two person versions (both non-pro, and I have the 3 season and 4 season inners for both) don't think the UK climate suits a single skin tent to be honest. I love these tents through and through, although they've kinda been killed in my eyes by my X-Mids. I don't think anything is going to take those tents from my favour.
As for how I shop; with deep research. I trawl through forums and facebook groups looking for as many manufacturers as I can for that specific thing (e.g. trekking pole tents / tarps), then I look at their offerings and reviews. (Single skin kinda sucks in the UK). Then I compare pricing and features/extras (things that don't come seam sealed or guyed, things that come with ground sheets), at each step either removing options I don't like, or ranking the ones I do against each other. Generally I'm then left with 1-3 options which I then look for specific comparisons. Most of the time it comes down to personal preference between the top few (tarps and tent stoves for example), but in some cases there's one clear winner that seems to fit my criteria exactly (the X-Mids).
Went around Poland last month on a 1-week trip with this thing together with my wife and even have the video up, nice tent.
I have the double wall lanshan,2 with both inners and some carbon fibre poles for when I'm not carrying trekking poles. A little less space and s little extra weight , but having swappable inners depending on the weather I'm heading out in is nice. Still loads of space for me when I'm out. Weight is somewhere between 1100-1200g depending on which inner I take. Carbon fibre poles add 140g on top of that if I bring them.
No es muy cara, es ligera (no ultraligera), los materiales y acabados son buenos, ocupa poco volumen, apenas condensa, es fácil de plantar...
Pese a no tener las costuras selladas es una excelente relación calidad-precio.
Gracias por el vídeo, Paul!
Videos like this really do help me decide if I want to buy something. Getting a good look at everything. I get the youtubers opinion and thoughts that I may not have considered but also being able to see every inch of the product from all angles I'm able to spot things that maybe they haven't mentioned or considered.
I'd generally watch a few, compare to similar products and then decide if I'm into it.
I personally can't stand soaking wet fly with condensation flapping wet droplets all over sleeping bag n kit... So having tried the lanshan pro s ... I sold em both 1 n 2... I don't wanna wake up wet in my tent ... And yes I tried sponges etc ... The trouble is.. the whole inside feels wet. I much prefer the Sierra designs high route
I do a combo - Quick look a price range on general retailer websites; then read general blogs/reviews of tents for my needs; then also look at reviews of specific items on retailer websites and try and determine which are appropriate (understanding that sometimes people just have a bad experience or unreasonable expectations, or actually not that familiar/practical with camping/specific types of tents). Then look for offers and discounts.
Reviews for tents or anything else for that matter are always the best way to go for me that way you can weed out the bs from the genuine one's
I've got the double-layer Lanshan 2 and I chose that because I'm a bit of a steam train when I sleep. Regrettably I've only had occasion to use it once as I haven't had any good chances to go camping for a while. The one time I've used it though, I was very happy with it. Loads of room and 1.2kg is really hard to beat at the price.
When it comes to research before buying, I can get almost obsessive. TH-cam videos, google searches for reviews, comments sections. And then for multiple products, too.
For a long time I was saying 'never a trekking pole tent' because I didn't want to rely on having to bring them. But I found I always bring them anyway even if I don't expect to need them - sometimes my knees just benefit from that bit of support. So if I'm always carrying them, may as well give them more to do. And as a sort of aside; it's a tent where you can grab a large stick from the forest and use that if you need to and it'll be as good anyway.
I watch a few videos before buying a product. Once I've found enough 'evidence' that it would suit my use case, I make the purchase. But there are times when I get a little too excited by a product and buy it anyway, only to later discover that I didn't really need it :-).
I certainly trust your reviews though, Paul. Keep em coming - love the channel.
The zipper arrangement has long been a source of angst with us Lanshan 2 fans....however they stuck to the j type door probably to keep the weight down. The four season inner really does work.... i have one on my standard Lanshan 2 and i measured a 20F degree difference between inside and out one night (frigid 26 F to a sleep-able 46 F (-3 C --> 8 C )) Im surprised you not a fan of trekking poles.... they really do work if you learn to use them properly .... especially good on down hill sections where it really starts telling on the knees.... great review as always Paul 👍👍
Actually I've bought a lot of kit after seeing your videos. Obviously know your stuff and if you say it's good enough..... that's good enough for me. Keep up the good work/great videos
I made a choice between the Lanshan and the DD Pyramid XL tent. In the end I went for the DD tent. After over 30 days in it (not all together, but did do 10 in a row recently) I don’t regret my choice. However if I bought the Lanshan instead, I’m sure I’d be happy with that as well. Great review as ever, I watch TH-camrs and talk to others who are hiking with similar tents. Then I talk to my bank manager to see what the budget is.
The only tent I've ever bought - happy with my purchase - a well designed and hardy tent - had it stand up to 50mph winds on Kinder Scout. Probably not great in really cold or snowy conditions but I'm no expert.
Hi Paul,
I live in Ireland and the weather here is similar to the UK. I agree with you regarding a two skin tent being more appropriate for UK weather. I think your review was fair and appeared unbiased.
Thanks for the review.
All I can say Paul is research, research, research. another great video, keep up the great work.
I have been happy with my Paria Bryce 1p. I have not made the leap to a trekking pole tent, but I may have to give this tent a try. Thanks for the honest walkthrough.
Good video Paul. Thanks for your time spent researching all of this stuff. I used to spend a lot of time doing the same but hardly have time like I used to.
First, I typically trust and support my local outdoor gear shop.
If I’m looking for something cheaper & they only carry items that are too “high-end” for what I’m looking for (rain tarp, air mattress, titanium mug, etc.) then I’ll also dig into the manufacturer, quality, reviews, forums, talk with friends, and compare specs, etc.
This sometimes leads me back to the local store to get the item that costs more than I wanted to spend to begin with, because of the quality (or weight, mfg rep, etc.) because they are after all, an outfitter for a reason.
In answer to your question about buying blind...I personally rely heavily on you tube and videos such as yours.
I'm not in a position to waste money so value honest reviews.
Thanks for another great video, I'm very tempted by this Lanshan tent however I don't like the amount of ground clearance and also the fact after spending £150+ buying it you still need to silicon all the seams, this is something I feel the manufacturer should of done.
For roughly the same money the Vango Banshee for me is much better.
Thanks for the insight
Regards Rob 👍
I researched nearly two years before buying my tent. I like the look of this company's tent and have seen vids on this Pro model and the standard one (fly and body). I doubt I'll get one since I paid a high price for my current 3-man 4 season tent. If I get the funds I might sometime. It is always nice to see new reviews and I trust your advice as much or more than others. Thanks. Take Care and Stay Safe.
Well personally I spend a lot of time reading reviews on products and watching as many videos on TH-cam about the product as possible....especially your channel Paul its straight talking honest stuff and that's what I want. I love my pro 2 but only for summer, just took the plunge after many video watching and reviews to buy the fjallraven abisko lite 2 for winter, again I particularly looked at bushman and blue for this as Al uses fjallraven a lot. You're a good guy Paul keep doing g what you are doing pal.
I have the non pro, better inner if a tad smaller. i was skeptical at first but now i have one i love it but for 3 seasons only
Hiya Paul...Pick up a lanshan 2 pro just to save a little weight on our multiday hikes so will be using it on the cotswold way next week..Done a couple of mods to it mainly removing the plastic ram head clips just for easier access...Have got concerns about condensation but hopefully won't be too bad ...All the best👍🏻
I recently bought this one, but in green. I haven't seam-sealed it yet but I'm itching to take it out sometime in the fall. I've had the Lanshan 1 Pro for about a year and a half now and used it in just about every kind of environment and season. I've camped in it in pine forests, on an island after a day of fishing, out near the Swedish mountains Sylarna (alpine environment, windy as heck), in the snow and most recently in Norway on a hike to Glittertinden at 2452 meters above sea level. And so on. It's held up extremely well, even when subjected to some serious gusts up in the mountains. (I wouldn't recommend using it in such environments unless you know what you're doing) It punches way above it's price. The stitching on mine is perfect, the materials feel really sturdy and you know you can trust the YKK zippers. Overall, superb tents! Only thing I would replace is the plastic hook at the doors, as that is a weak point. I took mine off and put a small carabiner here instead so I can easily unhook one or both sides. After that I no longer have to worry about this plastic hook failing.
Did you hike the full Jämtland triangle, or only Sylarna? I'm going on my first solo hike there at the end of the month, the triangle and the Sylen peak.
@@TheAngieStoned We only did the 16km hike to the mountain station STF Sylarna and then set up shop for the night once we'd arrived. Then we went for a day-hike to the top, then spent the evening at the station having drinks, food etc. And then 16km back to the car the next day, back home via Åre. I went to Sylarna twice in 2021 and the weather was very unpredictable both times, with near constant winds near the station which meant you had to find something that would block some of the wind. It seems like the shape of the valley the station sits in acts as a funnel for wind and rain.
Anyways. It's an easy area to hike in and the day hike to the top is fairly easy, but does give you some splendid views. You shouldn't have any problems.
@@FuttFel Nice, cheers for that! I'm well excited, just hoping for some decent weather. I've got a house a few hours south, so it's about bloody time I made it up there.
@@TheAngieStoned We had to drive 7 hours to get there, so that's nice! Just make sure to bring good rain gear. The first time, we got rained on so hard we all got soaked and had to dry ourselves and our clothes for 2 hours at the station before resuming our hike home. Lesson learned, brought a good set of rain gear on the second trip. And got no rain, of course. I brought a Sea to Summit Nano Poncho the first time, but the winds made it nearly impossible to use properly.
@@FuttFel I've got a good jacket, trousers are so so, but there's still time for a last delivery.
I have the 2-layer non-pro version, 3 years old now. Seam-sealed it myself (badly). Just got back from a week-long hike in the lake district where every stop was a night-long torrential downpour of rain. Damn thing didn't let a drip through. So impressed. When it finally wears out I will deffo but another.
I do a lot of research on youtube and talk to people who has the product I want get there opinion on it first I do completely agree with your review on this tent yes you are it’s not for everyone great review Paul
I did the coast to coast last year with the 2 layer version and it performed really well in some challenging wet and windy conditions
I looked at your channel and others and was pleased with my choices on the back of those recommendations , my friend is now about to do the c2c with the Durston x so be good to see how the tents compare, great job you are doing
Cheers Paul. When looking to buy something new, I look to see which of the wild campers/bushcrafters I follow use it too. Then I'll go off and do some extra resaeach myself as well. Looking at ratings and comments from places like youtube and amzon and ebay etc.
It is a popular tent. I don’t know why many TH-camrs say they can not stand up in high wind. I have a Naturehike CloudUp and people say the same thing. Recently took it up a mountain (3000m) and camped in gale force winds. It was pretty exposed for 2 nights. Tent handled it no problem, including the night I set it up wrong. The tent poles were flexing and smacking me in the head, yet bounced back and were not bent or broken.
for my appalachian trail thru hike attempt, i did months of research using youtube, blogs, and facebook groups. my pick was the Zpacks duplex and loved the tent and had no issues with over 1300 miles. switched to a hammock system now and have not looked back. now getting ready for the Arizona Trail and will be using a Durston Xmid 1 trekking pole tent until i can get to an area with trees lol
My hennessy arrives on Monday 😃
Very nice review Paul, many thanks for sharing. In answer to your question at the end of your video, most of my kit is bought after you have reviewed it. You always give an impartial view of the kit you review and that’s what I look for. Champion buddy, we’ll done.
I love my lanshan mate ..had no issues with condensation whatsoever👍
This is why we watch you m8, always in new/different tents and always explain thing well, you do a cracking review on products m8 hope to see you back out camping soon and if your fancying a local hike I'd be up for it m8 👍
Good informative vid .
I use the trekking pole tents and don't find condensation a problem , the trouble with sil nylon it stretches and soaks up the water , but this style of tent can hold up to windy conditions.
I own a zpacks duplex and it's one or even the best tent I've owned same style ten set up and it held up easy in 40 mph winds as long its pitched correctly to the wind . Only trouble with the lanshan is the bath tub walls are not very high and seem to sag, but bang on for the money
But I always say you get what you pay for 98% of the time , in do agree always research, and everyone is different,
Written reviews on manufacturer's websites, outdoor gear stores or amazon are less and less trustworthy. Some people who purchase gear have very little idea how to use it correctly depending on their experience or requirements. I tend to scrutinized both overly positive or negative reviews and look for some sort of consistent remarks. They may purchase a single wall tent or trekking pole tent and fail to understand causes of condensation or how to choose a proper site for the gear they've acquired. I love to follow youtubers and keep up with the latest technology in backpacking (wild camping) gear. If I see something that I'd be willing to purchase, I like to see side by side comparisons, for example how two similar 4 season tents may hold up in terrain and weather that really puts them to the test. Those comparisons often reveal practical tips and advice on how to best use the gear and avoid user error or make brilliant modifications. When all is said and done, nothing beats actual experience with the gear. Taking it out and putting it through its paces will reveal personal pros and cons depending upon the trip and stress put on such gear. Everyone has a different threshold for acceptable performance, temperatures, weight, etc. There is never a one size fits all. I may have a piece of gear that I think is brilliant, but it will never suit others I hike with. Their needs and comforts differ wildly from my own. We can only thank folks like you who offer honest opinions and show actual experience with different brands. We need to realistically set our expectations for performance and know our skill sets. As for the Lanshan products, I've never been attracted to them after gaining experience with DCF tents and products. I just don't like how they tend to stretch and perform. I am willing to make a few trade offs in order to go lighter weight with DCF. It's definitely not for everyone though as it is a bit noisy and expensive. As I search for my ideal winter set up, I'll most likely go with something other than DCF, like the Scarp 1 with poles. Another recent example is my decision to purchase an origami type folding kayak from ORU. Some of my kayaking friends look at it and say they'd never have such a thing. I take it out and enjoy it much more than my hard shell kayak because of convenience and fun. It never fails to draw attention and plenty of curious people with questions. As soon as I let friends take it out for a test paddle, they fall in love. Still, its not going to tackle any wild white water rapids or the such, but that's not why I like it.
Dripping like a knackered fridge, pure poetry. Nice one Paul. Good vid.
Another thorough and honest review, thanks Paul. Love you channel mate. I had a Six Moons Designs Lunar Duo a few years ago, which is the tent the Lanshan is modeled on. It was a condensation nightmare, and I sold it on after a three night trip where it never stopped raining and as a result, never dried out. I've given up on single skin tents since then - nothing quite so fun as getting into a tent in the rain and finding the ground sheet still full of puddles.
Could you not have just dried the groundsheet up with a towel?
Great tent! Saved my life few nights ago. I do have option with two layers, but still amazing and great comfort. You are doing great job, Paul.
For me TH-cam camping scene is divided into two camps: adventure and gear. I usually get an idea for what gear I want to get from adventure videos, and then zero in on the perfect piece of equipment by looking up reviews on channels such as yours, TOGR, etc. But sometimes I'm limited by what I can get in Poland 😅
We've got the doubled walled version and used for for our 'through-hike' of the West Highland Way in April. We were lucky with the weather, but were very pleased with how the Lanshan worked for the two of us. I've made a couple of mods to the guy lines, as we didn't get on with the door hook, and bought a couple of longer groundhog stakes for the main guylines as I wasn't confident in the little stakes it came with. Very pleased with what we have now, can't wait to get out with it again.
Darwin and Dixie are definitely two of the most influential hiking TH-camrs here in the U.S., but I picked one of these tents up (got the 3 season non-pro version) after my hiking partner has used one for 3 years and loves hers. I have a 1p trekking pole tent, but it is not very spacious and doesn't have a decent vestibule. I've only set this tent up once. It takes up much more space than my 1P, but it weighs the same and it is really a well-made tent. Will be getting it on some adventures soon. I section hike the Appalachian Trail and the New England Trail, and many people have this tent.
I may well be in love with Dixie 😋
I only use 1 trekking pole - I tried 2 but can't get used to it. So I'm thinking about the Lanshan 1 with the 4-season inner. I'd never use a single-skin tent in the UK, just too humid. But for weight, pack-size and price the Lanshans are stunning value. As for choosing, I prefer to find a stockist and get a good look and feel. But nowadays there are few stockists with erected tents to look at and even fewer stocking things like the Lanshans or Naturehikes so TH-cam is the only option. Just be sure to watch more than a couple of videos, especially if they are sponsored!
It's a bit of both for me. I do research on TH-cam and elsewhere online to read other people's experiences and reviews. I also trust my gut feeling when it comes to purchases that I feel I need to commit on. I've had the dual layer version of this one for about a year now, with both inners (3 + 4 season), and I've used it year-round switching between both. My intention was to purchase an "all-round" tent. Very happy with it! One thing I dislike about this tent though is that you need a proper spot with decent soil to pitch it.
I did the C2C using this tent.. its brilliant
Thanks for the video! 3F UL Gear has updated their Lanshan Pro starting with their 2023 models, they are now using a T-Door fly instead of the L-Door fly that only enables you to open up the fly on the left. To me, this is a huge deal and it was one of the few drawbacks I have with my current Lanshan. Can you do a review on the new model T-Door Lanshan Pro, Paul? There are really no reviews out there for it and I think it’s a huge improvement.
Pitching that on a Cornish cliff when the wind picked up might be a good test! Nice demonstration, thanks.
Drippin' like a nackered fridge 😆 🤣 .
Cheers Paul, another excellent video. You have convinced me to research this tent. To answer your question - i do an awful lot of research before buying gear - it's half the fun for me. Videos, reviews, articles with lists of 'top 10 X' etc. Occasionally I'll find something everyone agrees on (thermarest x-therm for example). All the best 👍
Using the normal 2p Version for multiple years and hikes. On the GR20 we had several nights with hard storm on high altitude. Loud but always good protected nights. There was a Guy with your pro model. Also worked perfectly fine for him. All the material and manufactoring of the seams is high qualitiy.
Today, because of the price increase i would try get an x-mid 2. I think that comes with the higher popolarity. 4 years ago i payed 95 Euro for my lanshan 2 and in the end i never (!) had any issues. So good value.
Just one thing: don't go for the white color. It took much longer to dry 😉
I do a lot of ‘TH-cam research’ before I buy camping gear because I usually buy it online. But you have to be careful. Like your channel, there are people who use the gear. But there some channels here in the US with high subscriber counts that don’t even use a tent but gives ‘reviews’ I saw a TH-camr set up a tent in the rain, and come out of his house once in awhile to look inside to see if it’s leaking. In the whole video I never saw him actually get inside the tent! Yeah, his reviews have zero credibility with me. So be careful what you see on social media. Keep up the good work, I enjoy going along on your travels!
I'm excited for this upload. Not sure but I haven't seen any notifications for your channel in a long while. Either way ! I hope to see more again soon! Cheers Mate!
I got a North Face Stormbreak 3 for about $165 on sale. It’s durable and heavy at about 5 1/2 pounds. Much heavier fabric. I hike with my boys and each carry a part. I have used it for five years so far.
Really informative Paul. Glad to hear you say rucksack and long walk, these American words do my head in (super) big time! 😀
I used to sell outdoor clothing so have a decent knowledge but still watch loads of videos on here before buying anything.
This looks perfect for my ride & hike motorcycle trips. Fantastic! Thanks for the review!
SAY IT AGAIN USED THIS, LOVE IT ,ITS HOME BOUGHT UPGRADE DYNEMA ULIMID 2 HALF INSERT PREFER MY OLD LANSHAN
I on a whim ish started the penne way last year and did it with a lot of stuff I had acquired over the years including a vango f10 ultralight with was great if seeming a little flimsy it performed well tho and cost me only £150. However while out there ALL the pros seemed to have the lanshan pro. So in typical style on my return I kitted myself out with all the gear I wish I had bought before going including the lanshan pro, Ive only used it once and you need to take a small towel flannel for the condensation but its huge easy to put up feels utilitarian robust and is as light as the f10. So far I'm not disappointed though I've not yet found out how good a job at seam sealing I made. bloody hard to get hold of tho I ended up ordering from a South African reseller.
This was on my hit list but I actually managed to get a X-mid p2 solid, (which arrived 4 days ago). It's expensive, especially when you add £106 import duty but boy what a tent. It's not hard to see why the latest batch sold out in just over 2 minutes. That said, if I hasn't managed to get the x-mid, I would have bought one of these tents. For price & weight, this is one hell of a tent. Great video Paul 😊
If you get the OneTigris Tangram, the mesh doors have a T-zipper and opens fully on both sides. I got the Tangram because of that feature. It’s about a pound heavier, but seems more durable than the Lanshan.
Same here, I went for the OneTigris Tangram for similar reasons. Bit more weight but twin-skin, a bit thicker material and the fully opening inner door. Only thing that worries me a bit is the lack of guy points on the main sides like the Lanshan but haven’t fully tested it yet.
@@paulcrankshaw2712 I’m testing my tent for the first time today. I just saw a video with Outdoor Vitals and they’re including clip-on guylines with their new tents. I’m going to see if they sell them separately to add guy out points if needed.
You should always look at reviews and research to know what your getting for your money and if it will meet your criteria. I always thoroughly look for information on products before buying. Although most shopping is done online it’s always nice to see things in person, which why TH-cam videos can be such a huge help toward making a decision on buying a product.
Bit late on this one, but I just bought a Luxe* Hexpeak V4A for up here in Scotland. My big worry was tents that would handle the wind we can get (especially since I want to bag some monro's while I'm at it). I went through lots of reviews and that or the Vango Banshee seemed like the two best ones. In the end I went with the hexpeak due to the lager vestibule, lighter weight, ability to change the inner with a 3rd party inner (asta xinxue) if I ever felt the need. And probably most importantly, I couldn't find the Banshee in stock anywhere.
For me it was important to get it right first time. I don't have the cash to be buying more than one. So youtubers where important, for their reviews and getting to see what it was like being taken out in similar conditions to what I would expect.
*NB: Problems with Luxe supply, delivery and customer support are only from the US supplier. UK and EU distributors are not connected with the US one. I say this as I had a panic when I found out, but I can personally attest to the UK distributor being quick with great customer support, and I have heard good things about the EU one. Just a shame that the US supplier is a bit of a ... well... a very bad word.
wicked piece of kit, i love mine, had my lanshan 2 pro 12 months but not had it out in the rain yet so im not sure my seam sealing has worked, i did a great job to look at it
Same as you Paul : YT, opinions/experience on FB & Reddit groups, Internet reviews and specs. That led me from the MSR HH NX2 (until it passed on from old age) to the Lanshan 2 (not the Pro!), the NH Taga 2 when I needed a tent quickly but not as my main tent, and then the Durston X-Mid 2 next up. I also concoct a spreadsheet to compare specs and rate them. It's been a proven process so far.
When it's windy or going to snow, you would lower the poles to get rid of that gap between the door and the floor. Still end up with a good amount of head room.
Yeah, you can: I do this with my Lanshan 1.
However, the way the fly is cut at the vestibule means you can have all the other fly edges on the floor, but there's still a gap where the rams head clip is on the door. It's how they designed it, gives good airflow.
We need a messner branded budget tent I’d buy definitely
When ever I want to know about a camping product I always listen to your advice
Currently sleeping in my Lanshan 1 Pro. Shave off another 250g. It's my summer / fair weather tent. In these conditions, I spend most of the time outside and only go in for sleeping. The single-wall otherwise is just not great in the UK and I resort to other tents.
I watch loads of videos before buying a tent and read lots of reviews. Was out this week with my Vango Nevis 200 and had a great time. Decent size, decent price and not too heavy, although the Lanshan does tempt me from the size and weight perspective.
Good to hear I have went for the cairngorm 200. Yet to break it out and use it yet though. I went for the cairngorm over the nevis due to a slightly better waterproof rating but they seem essentially the same.
Why is it sold a four season tent with large gaps for wind and bad weather to come under and it not even water tight 🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️ is this not miss selling?
Another great video Paul and good to see you out doing videos
Hi, I like the 3*3 meter dd hamrock celta file, otherwise you have to clean everything carefully loops, lined things on this tent so that you don't get wet there after a while.Another thing, spray everything you have (clothes, equipment, tent) with a suitable agent against various crawling small parasites from the forest...But paint the seams first!!!
Held up in storms during my hike in swedish lappland (arctic circle) exceptionaly well.
Hi Paul - thanks for the video. I have a Lanshan 2 which I bought earlier this year. It is dual skinned so I have less of a condensation problem. Videos such as yours definitely were a big source of info in my selection process. I was buying the tent to do some wild camping walks up in the hills. The big pros for the Lanshan were weight and price (equating to lower risk too, if it didn't work out). I have since used the tent in the Lakes and was a bit frustrated with it. I failed to sleep through a few windy nights where the poles often slipped from their ridge positions collapsing the tent. I used Fizan Compact trekking poles which have a sloping top to the handle which may have been a factor as I hadn't seen this raised as an issue with the tent anywhere else. I'm hoping to fix this in future with a couple of self adhesive velcro patches in each corner - the spiky bit on the tent and the woolly bit on the top of the trekking pole. It works nicely in the garden, I just hope the adhesive is good enough. The tent is also quite flappy in the wind, there is an excellent video demonstrating this by Outlawed Landscapes here th-cam.com/video/HRbkuhdUlP4/w-d-xo.html. As you suggested, you can make the tent more windproof by dropping it down closer to the ground, but for taller folk with the inner tent version, you then have the inner tent a lot closer to your head when sleeping. It only takes a little bit of wind to have the inner flapping on your head. So, not great for wind, but in calm conditions it works well. Also, I did pre-seal mine and it kept me dry through some rainy nights.
Me and my wife got the lanshan after watching haze outdoors in Scotland but brought a cloudup3 because it looked nice, both are great do like the cloudup3 a little bit more though
I bought a 3F UL backpack this week and I was really amazed by it's price/quality ratio. I'd probably go for this tent if I hadn't just bought a Robens Starlight 2 while waiting for the Durston Xmid 1. How many tents would you need anyway lol.
Got howling wind and rain on one of the Brecon Beacons in my Lanshan, shat myself in bed but the Lanshan did hold, I think the simplicity of its shape helps a lot in handling bad weather.
I will say the double skin version does make the difference keeping me dry, bun single skin tents they are not worth the hassle
this is a good tent. ive had it in use this summer starting from lapland in the early june. the temperature was around about -1c at mornings but i stayed warm in the tent. the 3 season tents mesh is so tight it keeps some wind out too. id recommend to use some kind of ground cloth just in case if youre camping on rocky terrain
I've used mine in the rain a couple of time and it didn't leak even though I did not seem seal it. I will get around to doing it eventually though for peace of mind.
Great video Paul. Informative as always and appreciate that you get right to it!
Paul, another good video. The buying process - reviews from decent UK magazines and TH-camrs, then reviews from abroad (as products may differ despite having the same name), then double check manufacturers website, then see it for real if you can. Then buy it....
Hi Paul, thanks for reviewing. Looks great for long treks, but my wild camping will involve packing everything onto my KTM mortorcycle and heading for the hills/woods etc., so weight isn't such an issue. When it comes to selecting gear, I always turn to my favourite TH-camrs to see what they're using or recommending.