I had to do it 5-6x on my 2010 Toyota. But the fluid was original and had 180,000 miles. Lol I’m def gonna be doing this service much more often now. What a diff!
Many thanks for this. Went through a couple of litres and now the fluid on my MY05 V70 2.5T is a lovely green colour. And I much prefer the taste of the new stuff to what came out the first few times :)
yeh, this is my preferred method, not as thorough but you don't run the risk of breaking rubber hoses or clamps(on an old car)...quick & easy, effective too
I read somewhere that steering fluid should be in the same color as seal under the cap. but it doesnt work like that as I got green seal and red fluid :) thank you for sharing sirobb
boskigrzegorz Get that checked buddy. If it's using standard red ATF, then it can be wrecked if it's meant to be using CHF. You can use CHF in an older system that uses ATF, but not the other way around. The price of a new rack can sadly make a lot of older cars uneconomical to repair.
@@sirobb My understanding is some of the Volvo manuals incorrectly say to use transmission fluid. Others say to use the seal color. So opinions do vary.
be advised that at least in the U.S. that there has been a lot of debate about what fluid to use. my 02 manual simply says ATF however when i double checked it with various dealers around me i got conflicting answers. just tread lightly
TheTodd2close check some volvo forums online they have said that in pre 2000 volvo s atf is recommended. After 2000 synthetic power steering fluid ( green) is recommended. Volvo made a mistake on this matter in the owners manual on the p2 cars.
Sad, many American dealers simply do not know, far to many are afraid to say "I do not know" ! Volvo, and others do not help with their specs that only benefit themselves .. "Volvo power steering oil" indeed !!
I changed mine just recently. I sucked out the old fluid and replaced it with new fluid 4 or so times over a period of 1-2 weeks. I used 1 liter all in all. After 100+K miles it was time for it.
Very old video now, and I haven't checked any manual or maintenance stuff.. But is it necessary to do this, or are you just doing it for your own peace of mind? No complaining at all, I'm just curious as I really don't know. I know we haven't changed it in our 2004 - ever.
Having just tried the AC clutch plate free fix - that worked like a charm and cools down hot children and adults - hoping I’ve not asked too much of something else. Whining noise coming from steering when in use, reservoir low and a sort of grey/brown. Second hand rack recently fitted - wonder what fluid they used 🙈 great video as usual 🥇
You used a lot of good oils while mixing with old oil in the system. I did differently. I removed the return flow pipe and poured everything into a bottle and poured a new one into the cistern. All the old was pushed out and the system filled up with 100% fresh oil
Did you run the engine for some seconds or did you remove the plugs and turn over the engine by hand ? Me ? I'd start and run the engine for 5 seconds and determine if that was sufficient .
There is a more effective method and it’s done by disconnecting the return flow hose from the reservoir, you raise the car’s front side and turn the steering wheel side-to-side. As you turn the wheel the old fluid drains in a bucket and some other person fills the reservoir with new fluid. The process continues until the whole system is clean. Thoughts on that, Simon?
My thoughts are that I like my staged method with the engine running and weight on the wheels. The system is then at *significantly higher* pressure, bypass valves are being exercised at each lock and there is no hose removal required. Those years old hoses and clamps don't want to be disturbed unless absolutely necessary and changing the fluid isn't a good enough reason in my opinion.
Tube in the reservoir. Suck on the tube then cap the end with my thumb well before fluid is near my mouth. Put the end of the tube below the level of the fluid in the reservoir and put in a bottle.
This is not flushing. It is a partial (very partial) drain and refill. Quite adequate if you do this procedure annually but I bet that less than 1% of owners would service the power steering system that frequently. Thanks for posting.
Just checked my fluid. It’s clean but it’s red. Users manual says it’s mean to be green. I’m going to Volvo to get the correct stuff. Will this method with 4 flushes be enough to do the job properly?
Ignore the owner's manual, it's sometimes wrong. Replace with whatever is in the system. If it's red, its Dexron III ATF (use a synthetic, such as Valvoline European Vehicle ATF). If it's green/brown use CHF.
Hi Rob, Nice video and I just heard some whining noise when you steer left at 4:48-54. Is that normal? Because I can produce the same noise when I fully steer left or right and keep on it with some force (I know it's not nice). While I am cruising, at some turns I can hear the same whining quietly. I guess I need to renew the fluid at first. Maybe this whining is normal because I don't have any problem with the steering, oil level, there is no message from the computer and the idling does not change when I steer at one place like you did. (secretly tipping that the alternator flywheel is dying) Thanks!
terdrecsirkek make sure your fluid is clean and check your power steering belt for wear. If worn that can cause noise. The strain on the belt could make it slip and that could be the noise you hear.
thanks, the belt and pulleys were replaced before. But I had a dmf replacement and thanks for this the mechanic guy could replace the ps oil with the bottom release. Now it's smoother and quieter, however the whining is still on if I force the tire to the inner bumber. Actually it's normal, in a normal way you don't need to tension the steering wheel in any direction. In this "tensioned" position the pump is under high pressure and the pressure regulator starts to work.
terdrecsirkek always make sue your tires are rolling a bit when backing in and out. When people turn there steering wheel with no movement of the tires they dig in the pavement and it puts tremendous strain on the power steering pump and belts. Good Luck
Hi i have an problem with my power stering on volvo d5 xc90 euro 4 if fill some pulsing to left and wright what can I do I checked the fluid is like cherry red collour
By changing this way you loose a lot of fluid the best way is open the feeding hose and empty the reservoir and filled up with new fluid open the return hose and put it in a clear bottle second person start the car for a few seconds same time should add fluid to do not let the power stream run empty when you saw the new fluid came out of return hose shut the engine down put back the return hose and check the fluid level start car again turn the stream wheel if there is any air in get out
It's not the best way, it's just another way and you need another person and you have to disconnect hoses which often need new hose clamps. My method doesn't lose any fluid but it may use 1 litre more which is £10. Not really a problem.
I've heard of some CHF being an amber colour but to be on the safe side, just run a couple of litres through and get a uniform clean green colour and eliminate that concern.
@@Peppermint1 The Pentosin has a really high viscosity index. Somewhere around 302 for CHF 202. Just look at the viscosity index of transmission fluids and you might realize why some newer cars do not call for ATF any more. That is if they don't have electric power steering instead, in that case they might not have a reservoir any more. I mention that because some Nissans do take a fluid for the electric power steering.
The Volvo owner's manual is actually incorrect for the 2001 S60s and probably more years. It says ATF but it actually comes with CHF from the factory and requires CHF for flushing and topping off.
The 2002 manual says to use Volvo power steering fluid. If you buy it from a main dealer, it's CHF. You're right though and as I say in the video, don't mix.
@@sirobb It's normal for the fluid to smell burnt? I think only thing that can burn the fluid is the pump? 🤔I recently did flush on my 04 s60 and the fluid was just dark green but it didn't smell burnt lol
@@jaskajokunen3716 Yes it can burn when the fluid gets old but is still having to do the same stressful job. Friction within the rack is dealt with less effectively and produces excess heat. This can take years and can depend on factors like the amount of low speed high turn ratio manoeuvres. Steering rack longevity can be very varied depending on use and maintenance conditions.
Hi. Just checked my 2002 d5 and it does look almost red. The cap is green . To be fair its pretty brown looking too so im worried as to what colour to put in
Philip Sleddenhouston you flush through green CHF repeatedly until the system contains only that and the reservoir dipstick shows bright, clean and green fluid. 2 litres could do it, 3 litres maximum.
I siphoned in the traditional way. Use a clear hose if you've never done it before so you get some warning. PAS fluid is pretty disgusting. There are many safe, if a little slower, alternatives.
IMO, the use of your wife's turkey baster is better from removing the old fluid in the reservoir , BUT do not let the woman find out what her baster was use for....
+SiRobb the steering fluid one, I seen other videos where they take out the fluid like you just did, and then removed the steering hose to drain/remove the remaining fluid, do you need to do that or just do it like you just did it?
+cathlic Vier I suppose it depends on your particular system. My PAS system is around 1 litre and my reservoir holds roughly half the total system capacity so doing my drain fill method will dilute and remove old fluid quickly. If your system capacity is the same but you can only drain say 200ml each time from the reservoir, it may be quicker to also disconnect the return hose or you can just drain and fill the reservoir only a few more times. It's up to you really. Hope it goes well and thanks for the comment.
You do realize that you only changed less than half the fluid in the rack and res. ?You can do this all day long and not get it all. IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME you can jack it up and remove the return line and drain it, fill it and have an actual flush~
SiRobb Thanks. I haven't changed my power steering fluid in 25 years. I bought the car from new. Every garage I go to tell me there is no need to do it. Yes I kid you not. I drive a daihatsu charade 16 Valve. I am scared shitless in case I damage the pump. What about an air lock forming.
Geraldine Geraldine If the level is correct before you begin and you replace *exactly* what you have removed before starting the engine, it's not possible for this method to introduce air. You must use the correct fluid for your system which will be in the owner's handbook.
SiRobb Dextron II. So just to be clear. Suck out what's in the power steering chamber, than fill it with fresh stuff and repeat the procedure until the fluid runs clear. Should I turn the wheels left to right to push up more fluid into the chamber to speed up the process. Thx so much for helping.
brilliant idea about plastic bag under wheel
Best one on the subject I've seen thank you
I had to do it 5-6x on my 2010 Toyota. But the fluid was original and had 180,000 miles. Lol I’m def gonna be doing this service much more often now. What a diff!
Actually very nice and simple.Thank you Sir for the video!
I see that you used the COMMA power steering fluid. How's that fluid getting on as opposed to the genuine Volvo fluid?
Many thanks for this.
Went through a couple of litres and now the fluid on my MY05 V70 2.5T is a lovely green colour. And I much prefer the taste of the new stuff to what came out the first few times :)
yeh, this is my preferred method, not as thorough but you don't run the risk of breaking rubber hoses or clamps(on an old car)...quick & easy, effective too
I read somewhere that steering fluid should be in the same color as seal under the cap. but it doesnt work like that as I got green seal and red fluid :)
thank you for sharing sirobb
Don't ever trust the seal colour.
Always check the owner's manual or check with your main dealer.
boskigrzegorz Get that checked buddy. If it's using standard red ATF, then it can be wrecked if it's meant to be using CHF. You can use CHF in an older system that uses ATF, but not the other way around.
The price of a new rack can sadly make a lot of older cars uneconomical to repair.
@@sirobb My understanding is some of the Volvo manuals incorrectly say to use transmission fluid. Others say to use the seal color. So opinions do vary.
The required fluid is either correct or it isn't so opinions outside of that don't really matter.
be advised that at least in the U.S. that there has been a lot of debate about what fluid to use. my 02 manual simply says ATF however when i double checked it with various dealers around me i got conflicting answers. just tread lightly
TheTodd2close check some volvo forums online they have said that in pre 2000 volvo s atf is recommended. After 2000 synthetic power steering fluid ( green) is recommended. Volvo made a mistake on this matter in the owners manual on the p2 cars.
Sad, many American dealers simply do not know, far to many are afraid to say "I do not know" ! Volvo, and others do not help with their specs that only benefit themselves .. "Volvo power steering oil" indeed !!
Clear and concise as usual. Good job.
Thank you!
I changed mine just recently. I sucked out the old fluid and replaced it with new fluid 4 or so times over a period of 1-2 weeks. I used 1 liter all in all. After 100+K miles it was time for it.
Very old video now, and I haven't checked any manual or maintenance stuff.. But is it necessary to do this, or are you just doing it for your own peace of mind? No complaining at all, I'm just curious as I really don't know. I know we haven't changed it in our 2004 - ever.
Having just tried the AC clutch plate free fix - that worked like a charm and cools down hot children and adults - hoping I’ve not asked too much of something else. Whining noise coming from steering when in use, reservoir low and a sort of grey/brown. Second hand rack recently fitted - wonder what fluid they used 🙈 great video as usual 🥇
Make sure the fluid is the correct type, the level is correct and the fluid is clean and clear.
sirobb is the man!
Haha, thanks. 👍
Hi do you know how to repair a Volvo xc70 boot cover that’s lost its spring
You used a lot of good oils while mixing with old oil in the system. I did differently. I removed the return flow pipe and poured everything into a bottle and poured a new one into the cistern. All the old was pushed out and the system filled up with 100% fresh oil
Did you run the engine for some seconds or did you remove the plugs and turn over the engine by hand ? Me ? I'd start and run the engine for 5 seconds and determine if that was sufficient .
Thanks for video. How many times to turn lock to lock?
15-20
One question for this is, do you feel softness at the wheel when you load the new one.
Do not write this % 30% 20% ???
Thank you
There is a more effective method and it’s done by disconnecting the return flow hose from the reservoir, you raise the car’s front side and turn the steering wheel side-to-side. As you turn the wheel the old fluid drains in a bucket and some other person fills the reservoir with new fluid. The process continues until the whole system is clean. Thoughts on that, Simon?
Do you need to have the engine running mate?
@@barrygray8356
No
My thoughts are that I like my staged method with the engine running and weight on the wheels.
The system is then at *significantly higher* pressure, bypass valves are being exercised at each lock and there is no hose removal required.
Those years old hoses and clamps don't want to be disturbed unless absolutely necessary and changing the fluid isn't a good enough reason in my opinion.
Ok Si, so how did you start the syphon off 🤨
Tube in the reservoir. Suck on the tube then cap the end with my thumb well before fluid is near my mouth.
Put the end of the tube below the level of the fluid in the reservoir and put in a bottle.
This is not flushing. It is a partial (very partial) drain and refill. Quite adequate if you do this procedure annually but I bet that less than 1% of owners would service the power steering system that frequently. Thanks for posting.
Some people never change the brake fluid. Imagine how nasty that stuff gets.
Great Video. How are you siphoning out the old fluid?
Just using a length of hose the old fashioned way.
Just checked my fluid. It’s clean but it’s red. Users manual says it’s mean to be green. I’m going to Volvo to get the correct stuff. Will this method with 4 flushes be enough to do the job properly?
Ignore the owner's manual, it's sometimes wrong. Replace with whatever is in the system.
If it's red, its Dexron III ATF (use a synthetic, such as Valvoline European Vehicle ATF).
If it's green/brown use CHF.
Three times is enough.
What you didn't mention was that my drivers spring was gonna snap.....🤣 Other than that worked a dam treat, tha k you sir
Does anyone know if there is a gauze filter built into the reservoir? and if so can it be removed for cleaning?
Hi Rob,
Nice video and I just heard some whining noise when you steer left at 4:48-54. Is that normal? Because I can produce the same noise when I fully steer left or right and keep on it with some force (I know it's not nice). While I am cruising, at some turns I can hear the same whining quietly. I guess I need to renew the fluid at first. Maybe this whining is normal because I don't have any problem with the steering, oil level, there is no message from the computer and the idling does not change when I steer at one place like you did.
(secretly tipping that the alternator flywheel is dying)
Thanks!
terdrecsirkek make sure your fluid is clean and check your power steering belt for wear. If worn that can cause noise. The strain on the belt could make it slip and that could be the noise you hear.
thanks, the belt and pulleys were replaced before. But I had a dmf replacement and thanks for this the mechanic guy could replace the ps oil with the bottom release. Now it's smoother and quieter, however the whining is still on if I force the tire to the inner bumber. Actually it's normal, in a normal way you don't need to tension the steering wheel in any direction. In this "tensioned" position the pump is under high pressure and the pressure regulator starts to work.
terdrecsirkek always make sue your tires are rolling a bit when backing in and out. When people turn there steering wheel with no movement of the tires they dig in the pavement and it puts tremendous strain on the power steering pump and belts. Good Luck
Hi i have an problem with my power stering on volvo d5 xc90 euro 4 if fill some pulsing to left and wright what can I do I checked the fluid is like cherry red collour
By changing this way you loose a lot of fluid the best way is open the feeding hose and empty the reservoir and filled up with new fluid open the return hose and put it in a clear bottle second person start the car for a few seconds same time should add fluid to do not let the power stream run empty when you saw the new fluid came out of return hose shut the engine down put back the return hose and check the fluid level start car again turn the stream wheel if there is any air in get out
It's not the best way, it's just another way and you need another person and you have to disconnect hoses which often need new hose clamps.
My method doesn't lose any fluid but it may use 1 litre more which is £10. Not really a problem.
Will doing lock to lock steering be the same as if I took it for a 5/10 Min drive and repeat to flush?
Yes, it just saves time but both methods will produce results.
My fluid is Amber colour I'm about to buy chf. Green. Just fingers crossed what's in there is chf and not atf as both will mix. Not good
I've heard of some CHF being an amber colour but to be on the safe side, just run a couple of litres through and get a uniform clean green colour and eliminate that concern.
@@sirobb thank you sir. Top man
@@sirobb 4 litres ordered 👍👍 check my channel to see my golf 👍😉 13:5:1 compression. Forged 1900cc 16v. Jenvey throttle bodies 😉😉
Another great video, thanks 👍
Why would you want to change the fluid every six month .
Agree, that is not needed. Perhaps changing the fluid every 5 years is a better approach. Pentosin is a fully synthetic fluid.
@@Peppermint1 The Pentosin has a really high viscosity index. Somewhere around 302 for CHF 202. Just look at the viscosity index of transmission fluids and you might realize why some newer cars do not call for ATF any more. That is if they don't have electric power steering instead, in that case they might not have a reservoir any more. I mention that because some Nissans do take a fluid for the electric power steering.
How many times do you need to lock to lock the wheels?
A good 15 times or so or you can go for a short drive doing lots turns.
The Volvo owner's manual is actually incorrect for the 2001 S60s and probably more years. It says ATF but it actually comes with CHF from the factory and requires CHF for flushing and topping off.
The 2002 manual says to use Volvo power steering fluid.
If you buy it from a main dealer, it's CHF.
You're right though and as I say in the video, don't mix.
Why do you need to change the fluid?
It gets old and burnt which could damage the pump and steering rack. It therefore needs changing the same as any lubricant.
@@sirobbthanks
@@sirobb It's normal for the fluid to smell burnt? I think only thing that can burn the fluid is the pump? 🤔I recently did flush on my 04 s60 and the fluid was just dark green but it didn't smell burnt lol
@@jaskajokunen3716 Yes it can burn when the fluid gets old but is still having to do the same stressful job. Friction within the rack is dealt with less effectively and produces excess heat.
This can take years and can depend on factors like the amount of low speed high turn ratio manoeuvres. Steering rack longevity can be very varied depending on use and maintenance conditions.
Hi.
Just checked my 2002 d5 and it does look almost red.
The cap is green .
To be fair its pretty brown looking too so im worried as to what colour to put in
Philip Sleddenhouston you flush through green CHF repeatedly until the system contains only that and the reservoir dipstick shows bright, clean and green fluid.
2 litres could do it, 3 litres maximum.
How did you start your siphon? I am way overdue for my power steering fluid change.
I siphoned in the traditional way.
Use a clear hose if you've never done it before so you get some warning.
PAS fluid is pretty disgusting.
There are many safe, if a little slower, alternatives.
IMO, the use of your wife's turkey baster is better from removing the old fluid in the reservoir , BUT do not let the woman find out what her baster was use for....
Do you need to remove the hose also? Or is it optional?
Which hose do you mean?
+SiRobb the steering fluid one, I seen other videos where they take out the fluid like you just did, and then removed the steering hose to drain/remove the remaining fluid, do you need to do that or just do it like you just did it?
+SiRobb I don't know much about cars but I'm just wondering, great video by the way I'll be doing this when I get out of work!! +1
+cathlic Vier I suppose it depends on your particular system.
My PAS system is around 1 litre and my reservoir holds roughly half the total system capacity so doing my drain fill method will dilute and remove old fluid quickly.
If your system capacity is the same but you can only drain say 200ml each time from the reservoir, it may be quicker to also disconnect the return hose or you can just drain and fill the reservoir only a few more times.
It's up to you really.
Hope it goes well and thanks for the comment.
My 01 Volvo S60's owner's manual said to use ATF. Well, it was wrong...
My power steering isn't working properly and when I turn left while driving it won't self center.
Upper strut mount nut being too loose (or the mount being worn) will cause that, but it's not the only thing. It's not a power steering issue, though.
You do realize that you only changed less than half the fluid in the rack and res. ?You can do this all day long and not get it all. IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME you can jack it up and remove the return line and drain it, fill it and have an actual flush~
Sonny You've either not listened properly or understood the video but thanks anyway for the comment.
It isn't necessary to get it all. Math says if you do what he did three times, you will get 70% of the old stuff out. That is more than sufficient.
Off the topic a bit. What car with what engine do you have? When it started up and idled, it sounded and purred like a London Bus.
Lisa b If you can't work out my engine from this video, I'm not sure what difference it would make telling you. 👍
OK so at first glance I did not see the make. But, your arrogant reply makes you the DIP STICK here! Thanks for the prompt reply anyway.
Lisa b If you'd ditched the London bus jibe, I might have taken your question more seriously. 👍
I like both of you guys. Real proper pricks lol very funny conversation
It sounds to me like Volvo's inline 5 cylinder engine. I've got the gasoline variant of the i5 and I can't complain.
Hang on how the hell did you get it out. All I saw was a pipe going into the power steering chamber.
Geraldine Geraldine I siphoned it.
If you don't know how to siphon, just tip it out or use a turkey baster.
SiRobb Thanks. I haven't changed my power steering fluid in 25 years. I bought the car from new. Every garage I go to tell me there is no need to do it. Yes I kid you not. I drive a daihatsu charade 16 Valve. I am scared shitless in case I damage the pump. What about an air lock forming.
Geraldine Geraldine If the level is correct before you begin and you replace *exactly* what you have removed before starting the engine, it's not possible for this method to introduce air.
You must use the correct fluid for your system which will be in the owner's handbook.
SiRobb Dextron II. So just to be clear. Suck out what's in the power steering chamber, than fill it with fresh stuff and repeat the procedure until the fluid runs clear. Should I turn the wheels left to right to push up more fluid into the chamber to speed up the process. Thx so much for helping.
Geraldine Geraldine You basically follow this video.
I guess you blew with your mouth on that hose to get it running out of the reservoir?
the fluid looks a lot like hydraulic fluid , hydraulic fluid is cheap
It looks like hydraulic fluid because it is hydraulic fluid. 😊
CHF means Central Hydraulic Fluid.
ok
Don't do that - you have been warned. Do you really want to risk ruining the rack and/or pump?
Don't do what?
Iv'e been using Dextron 111 ( 3 ) for years in my Holden rodeo power steering system for years and all good
Funny
What's funny?