The Refiner's Fire
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The refiner’s fire is not a comfortable place to be. It involves intense heat and repeated hammering. But it is in the refiner’s fire that we are purified and prepared to meet God.
Kim experienced the refiner’s fire in a way she never expected. She had always wanted a large family. Her first son wasn’t even two when he was diagnosed with a brain tumor that claimed his life. Her daughter was diagnosed with bone cancer. She lost her husband and another son to cancer.
In her refiner’s fire, she “began to think maybe I couldn’t do this. Maybe I wasn’t strong enough. Maybe I might fail. But the Lord wasn’t going to allow me to fail. I know that’s not unique to me. He does that for everybody.” She learned that the Savior does provide what you need to face tragedies with faith and confidence.
She emerged from her fire with a great deal of joy and a desire to use what she has learned to help others. “The greater our sorrow is, the greater our capacity to feel joy.”
Losing loved ones is never easy, but she was surprised. “I feel a great deal of tenderness towards my Savior because He really is so sweet. He really does provide what you need.”
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There has been so many times in my life where I thought that nothing I did mattered. I have had thoughts of suicide but their was always that voice in my head saying "Keep going". I have been through a mountain of stuff. I have been bullied, I had a brain tumor and people have called me stupid from that, I had to relearn how to walk, I felt like my mission was a failure because I was always put with the missionaries that didn't want to work, I came home and had no money for college, I got married and changed everything in my life to make her happy but it ended in a miscarage and a divorce and finally it took me 6 years to get through school, I am still not there but one semester away. Through out it all I have felt so lonely but looking back God always put people in my life to help me move forward. I don't want to share all of this just to say that I am better because I really hope people never feel alone. There are people who care and love you. You never have to feel alone. Reaching out is really hard but try and do it. There are going to be people who don't care. I have family that I love that wont talk to me about my past so I don't feel so lonely. Keep going you will find happiness. It is hard to find these days but you will find it. I just met a girl and hopefully something good comes from it. Start looking for the good in your life and chase it. I Love each and everyone of you!
Thank you for your enduring example! God is good all the time and all the time God is good! He never forgets us and never leaves us.
Thank you so much.
I too feel alone and isolated.
This is so relatable but for different reasons. I appreciate you sharing your experiences. I hope more than anything you will find someone to love who will love you back and help you complete the rest of this journey on earth. But even if you don't find that person, just know that you have a ward family to turn to as well. Just like in typical families, there may be ward family members who aren't always kind like they should be. But it seems like there are others in that same ward family who are twice as kind and make up for the ones who aren't. Those are the ones to surround yourself with. 🙂♥️
Thank you for sharing!
@@solomonstelloI'll pray for you, hope you feel better!
I have absolutely nothing to complain about after watching this message.
I don't know if the woman in this video will ever see this, but if she does, then I want her to know how thankful I am that she shared her story. My own trials are nothing like hers, but the message she shares helps me understand and face my own trails better.
May I thank you also. Your comment lifts me and I'm struggling, but I'm glad to know you are in there with me too and pushing forward.
"The greater our sorrow, the greater our capacity to feel joy." Just love that quote, and an image of a steel rose is extremely powerful. Brings me back to my time in the fire (assuming I'm in a cooling phase at the moment).
Boi how many trophies you have
That was my biggest take away from what she said as we learn about Job in this weeks CFM 📚
My wife knew this family growing up. They are an amazingly strong family of faith.
Richard Low,
They are amazing! I teach Lee, he's in my Sunday school class. Kim & I just had lunch today. She is such a beautiful soul!! ❤❤❤
@@happylatter-daysaint3503 They were in our Seattle ward for a few months while Drew received treatments at Children's Hospital. They are indeed a really remarkable family.
God bless them all
@@toevlugsoord They sure are! Lee has a TH-cam channel! He just got home from his mission!
@@optimusprime3688 Amen to that!🙏
I love that "the Lord was not going to allow me to fail."
I come to this video repeatedly for strength.
Me too...
This is a heartbreaking story. This woman is stronger than I will ever be.
Olivia enjoy your 1st subb
I had this exact thought, but then it dawned on me, the Lord is the one who strengthened her. The light we see in her is a reflection of God's light. Then I started to think that I need to prepare spiritually and draw close to the lord so he could help me in the same way if the same circumstances happened to me. I believe Jesus can help each of us the way he helped her. The question is, will we prepare and build that relationship with Jesus now. That will (i think) determine if we have enough water in our spiritual well to hold on and wait for the lord's hand to be revealed.
Even if your not religious I don't understand how someone could dislike a video where a poor women looses her family and is talking about how it has made her a better person!
Don’t worry most people dislike videos in order to tell TH-cam they want different videos in their feed not because they watched it or because they disliked it.
They just see a title, click and then dislike.
The dislikes are just a distraction. I felt the spirit. It's all that matters. This helps me remember my Savior that went through all so he could succor her and her family, as He does me. 👊
Some people are so miserable they get the elision of being happy if they tear others down, but that’s all it is… an illusion. The best we can do is lead by positive example.
Therein lies the problem with most Mormons; they're too sheltered to understand the dark pits of bitterness that afflict most human beings. You're not inoculated against lonesome suffering.
@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.That's not true. I was born into a family that was members of the Church but inactive. Off and on throughout my childhood and teen years. I have been homeless all my life. Up until my parents talked to our bishop at the time and made the decision to move. My life has always been a struggle. I was poor on poverty and will probably die in poverty. What changes God has blessed with me with. I have seen miracles all throughout my life. I have been in the refinery, the crucible of life. God is real. Christ is real. This gospel is real. It saves lives. My life. I will always be grateful for it.
I NEEDED to see this, to hear it, today. I am in that place in my life. And some days, it is like torture. But each day, I pick myself up again and keep going. Heavenly Father's grace and mercy astound me. He knows exactly what I need to keep moving forward, and he provides that sustenance. I'm so thankful for every trial, no matter how hard, because each time I face the pain, I grow in my testimony of enduring to the end. In all things, give thanks.
Jennifer, I needed this video also. I am going through the most difficult time of my life (mostly my own fault, I don't learn things the easy way). Some days I don't understand why I'm even alive, what good am I to anyone? And then I see someone who has gone through much more, and has stayed (or become) strong. The Mormon Messages always bring me hope, His love always brings me hope, when I least expect it, and don't deserve it.
Inspirational good words! Thanks for posting! You rock! :)
Amen 💖
@Kaylee Reynolds I wish, pray that God can pull me out of The h... that is depression. I need to feel His hope and love and assurance.
I needed to see this. My 18 month old was diagnosed with a terminal disease at 8 months. I've watched her fade every day. It is torture. As we've been in the hospital, and hospice care I've become very sad and very bitter that the church doesn't often shed light on such heartbreaking trials and focuses more on the "worldly" trials. Glad I got to see this. Gives me hope that one day I will see a light at the end of the very lonely and dark tunnel.
God is incredibly mindful of you!
I am very sorry for your heartbreaking news. A very sick and dying child is not something anyone should have to face. Prayers for strength for your whole family. I wish life were not so painful..especially for children :(
I’ve been friends with this family for just over a decade. They’re truly amazing.
I love how Christ refines us through His Holy Atonement! I wish I could remember this more often. My trials are so heavy at this time. Please pray for me.
I hope things are going better these years later!
The greater the opposition--the greater God's love is manifest.
I always love the comment section for Mormon Channel. The rest of the world is so different and often cruel. Growing up in the church is hard. You're different, and people don't always accept that. Just feeling separate hurts so much, but seeing this video and these uplifting comments helps me feel more happy.
You know, my Sunday school teacher told us once, that we are clay on a potter's weel, and sometimes, it takes rough, sharp, tools to make us eventually become a beautiful work of art. Sometimes we do get to feel the soothing feeling of the potter's hands massaging the clay, but then come the sharp tools, making beautiful designs in the long run.
I was wondering if I could quote this on my facebook page?
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I think a lot of people need to hear this message.
I know the refiner fire is real, and my faith is stronger for it. I and my wife got into a car wreck and I am glad when the spirit of God comes to you and tells you to be patient in your affliction
I can't stop watching this video. It's so good. The analogy of the blacksmith working and pounding to make his items, compared with Heavenly Father and the Savior allowing us to go through trials so that we can learn and grow and become formed into the best version of our selves, is just absolutely amazing.
Such a powerful message. I have not always been grateful during the times I am in my refiner's fire, but I know my heart usually gets to that place where I know how much my Heavenly Father and Savior love me and won't let me fail.
"The greater our sorrow, the greater our capacity to feel joy."
I have a testimony this quote is very true, but only if we are humble enough to allow that change to happen.
"The greater our sorrow the greater our capacity to feel joy " these words touched me
I know this family and they are amazingly strong - her daughter passed away since this video.
I shared this with a cousin who just lost his wife to Bile duct cancer at the age of 29. She left behind her husband and two children ages 6 and 2. He is lonely and having a hard time. I cried myself. I am grateful to a Heavenly Father who shapes us into who he knows we can become.
I've heard it said that "we will not have to endure more than we have the strength to". I'm grateful that my life is relatively easy and pain free.
True
This Makes me renewed, I often wonder what I am supposed to learn, then I think others need me to help show that the road to exaltation and eternal life is not just strength to endure to the end, but to know that the lord is the one to give us that strength If we but ask. I know that I'm here today and have survived each illness because the Lord is in charge and he has a plan for me even when I feel I can't survive The next time. He lets me know I will be OK. What a comfort to know The Lord loves me and cares for me in time of trial. And that he lives.
I love this message. Very powerful lesson to be learned here.
I love that "i know how to help because I went through it" just beautiful
I feel that this is one reason why the Savior suffered. It gave Him the capacity to love us and support us through our trials. I know that He suffered and died for us, and that we can use His love to make it through our Earthly life and make it back to Him.
I heard about this video by a seminary teacher, absolutely love it! Such a good story that tells how we go through hard times. I love the blacksmithing scenes as well, so vivid and so comparitive to this lady's story.
True strength i pray for this strength. God bless this amazing woman. I needed this video
This video is so well done. I've watched it multiple times. I'd like to think when the blacksmith hits the metal it represents the Lord chastening us and shaping us into the people that he wants us to be. I love symbolism.
this was beautiful. I can feel the spirit right now. Thank You
Kim, thank you so much for this!! sharing, expressing, and blessing others as you go!!
Well done, Mormon Channel!
I love that shugr sent me here. I haven’t watched the video in a long time and I needed to hear it.
Thank you for sharing your story. It has touched me deeply.
This Video, was very touching to me...... My heart went out to this woman in the deepest way. I have Cancer and I have helped members of my family get through their treatments.
Wow what a incredible story 😭the refiner fire is extremely painful I'm learning the hard way of overcoming ,I cried out the Heavenly Father sent Missionaries to my door teaching me the truth about God's plan of Happiness best decision of my life was to learn the truth, Heavenly Fathers plan I know he loves me and I'm a new member getting ready for my endowment ,the truth about Jesus Christ and the Restored Gospel his Atonement has brought major healing to me this is my testimony in the name of Jesus Christ amen. A great thank you to all the Missionaries out there love you all.
Wow, I can't imagine going through this. Such a strong woman. Very inspiring.
Well done to the makers of the video. I hope we are all able to keep the eternal perspective when enduring our individual refinement as this woman has.
Such an amazing and powerful message.
PEACE BE WITH YOU SISTER!! GOD LOVES YOU AND I LOVE YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILY IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, HALLELUJAH AMEN!!
Very powerful testimony.
God Lives! He will have a humble people. Humility is Strength.
We are blessed to have a religion that states that death is only temporal. Imagine what it might be like for people without that knowledge. I am thankful beyond words that I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Well, (I don't hold your beliefs, but I'll humor them,) it's not any different from not knowing that influenza is a virus. Not useful until you know it, so "imagining what it might be like" to not know it is a bit assuming. It's the same knowing from not knowing -- except that when you know, you lead a slightly different life and get vaccinated.
God always loves us and forgiving
Thank You for everything Lord Jesus Christ Amen 😇🙏❤
This is second time I have watched this!!! You need to keep this video on here for people to see & help them grow!!! Very moving & love it intertwined with sister’s story & the blacksmith making the rose!!! Thank you very much!!!
So right now, my family is going through a rough time with everything. School, work, financially, and I think maybe spiritually. This showed me there is a time when this is going to get better, I don't know when but in time. Right now for me, my whole testimony is shaken, I don't know what to do. But these videos show we can go to God and Jesus for help, to comfort us.
God bless this dear sister as she taps on her own experience to be a blessing to others. God always has a purpose for the suffering He allows us to go through. The comfort is that we never have to suffer a minute longer than needed, and we can trust that God knows exactly when that will be. And when we have endured it and kept the faith, He can multiply our joy. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Wow, that was beautiful. Thank you.
I need to hear this ,my selfish flesh is never happy , joy to help ,,, thank you I will change ,,,
Life is full of challenges and when we trust in the Lord and have faith in Him, everything will work out, no matter how bad things seem to get. I am so grateful for messages like these that help us to keep things in perspective and to realize that the Lord is making something better out of our lives than we could ever imagine. God bless this sweet woman!
Thank you for always uploading videos. There are always on time for someone out there that needs to hear it with what they may be going through.
It's time more people heard this message. Mormon channel is a great start.
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Amazing and very potent this one.
God bless us all be good pray and live with the Father and i will pray for everyone Amen🙏
Such a fine motivational speech though I'm not from the same religion but this is a great message . these words made me tear up because after her loss she survived and went on helping others through her guidance and to that I applaud you !
Thank You.
SO HEARTBREAKING AND POWERFUL
thank you for sharing your story. . . it's gives me hope as I go through refining of my own.
all the videos make me feel wonderful inside
This makes me thankful for my hard things.
i really needed this message today.
Very Uplifting!
Absolutely beautiful!
i needed this
Thank u so much for This message
Seeing this makes me believe that you can always be strong no matter what, like me I wasn’t always strong I couldn’t even defend myself when I was in junior high from a bunch of Mormon hating teens, saying it’s a fake church but now I’m in Highschool, I’m gonna graduate, I’m not gonna go on a mission just yet but I know that when the time is right the lord will let me know first, until then I need to stay strong and find peace within myself like this woman had, now not all peoples lives are perfect, some are hard, some are good, some are just downright miserable. But if you stay strong and do something you’ll be able to feel happy in life, help the homeless, find someone who needs food the most, save a life, adopt a kid, start a family, have a son or daughter, and then live to a peaceful age where you can finally meet your family in heaven.
Your spirit is illuminating!
This video really helped me out today, thank you
great message,just what i needed to hear today
Strangely beautiful. Thank You.
Absolutely amazing
Beautiful video. God bless
This is a powerful message.
We had came to earth to have these mortal experiences, to learn to become like our Savior. She has growth spiritialy. She has the capacity to love and comfort the sick. Especially those who suffer of cancer. My mother passed away with cancer. I learned to accept the will of the Lord. Because of this experience my heart was filled with genuine compassion for the sick and afflicted. I had choose to become a caregiver for the sick. Taking care of the sick and the affected is the work of the Lord. It was a journey of faith, compassion and miracles. The Lord is with the sick and afflicted.
This is one of the best videos I have seen in a long time. Like Job in the Old Testament this Sister had lost so much I could only imagine the pain she went through. Loss seems so permanent yet I find peace in knowing there is more ahead of us after this life. In the eternal perspective she will be with her family again. I ponder to think what does the Lord have in store for her?
Having an eternal perspective probably helps, but we wouldn’t know what it’s really like unless we’d gone through the experience ourselves
This is so beautiful.
So powerful!
I really appreciate this video a lot! I feel like I definitely have a better understanding of the "Refiner's Fire" the longer I live. Thank you for this video, and a special thanks to the person who shared her difficult circumstances. I know that you will definitely be a great source of hope for others who may be in similar situations. :)
Man.. we can never be victims In life, humans and Jesus share the pains we share. We’re not a lone, we can get through this... God Bless this Woman.
Thank you for the reminder. I've definitely been experiencing my Balm of Gilead moments lately too
My trials have begun and very heavy so I've asked heavenly to help me to be humble. And that is a struggle for me. Oh please help me be humble.
I hope things are looking up since this comment 🙏
i cried and I'm 8
god will protect you , Jesus say to you " you will be the next leader for this generation , for I am your head so I will make you a head as me , for I am your lord your god who directs you , Don't be afraid I have plans to prosper you not let you down ,trust me , believe I can " Amen
Never let that compassion go sweet heart. It is love and that IS JESUS THATS WHAT MAKES US GOOD!
From the refiner's fire comes
A more perfected form
Shaped to what we're to become:
Favored before the Lord
(His people)
Very powerful!
Powerful!
Often times i feel that we, on this earth, are dealt trials and challenges because that we haven't been good enough or that we deserve to be punished. This simply is not the case. The fire heats the steel up to almost its breaking point. Why? Because that is the only why for the steel to be shaped into the tool that The Master needs it to be. Trials are not put in our lives to punish us, rather to make us better than we ever thought was possible. Trials are designed to bring us nearer to God, not drive us away. Everything that the Almighty does has a purpose who's impact we cannot even imagine. I testify to all those who read these words that God would not have a man run faster than he is able, nor would He have him carry more than he has strength. God gives us these challenges so that we may help our fellow man, be compassionate, and to grow more Christ-like. I leave these things in the sacred name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Straight 6 - Thank you for your testimony. It is needed as much as a video like this one.
Thank you for your words
I would rather believe in a God (Jesus) who is a Savior, a deliverer, a healer, who sets me free, and gives me life. Put your faith 100% is Jesus the One true God is the flesh. The One who lives in you.
We have no problems, only opportunities for growth. Now, I must say that over and over and . . . . and believe it, and live it!
Similar to that sister, I too have felt that maybe I couldn’t do this. But God will not allow me to fail.
How could anyone dislike this?
Great piece
It's beautiful
How is this only viewed by 6,000 people?! Everyone should see this.
It has 750,000 views - and I agree, everyone should see it!
Wow
My newborn child passed away yesterday. This message gives me so much hope and strength. Thank you for sharing it
Hi @iankelly646, we're so sorry for your loss. We know comfort and healing can come through prayer and by relying on Jesus Christ at this difficult time. He loves you and can mend your heart and give you peace. Here is a video about accessing his grace to find healing after the death of a child: th-cam.com/video/vg8ofUBEQcg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zJ9uY6x3Ib3zUtCG and other resources to help you through this tough time: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/comeuntochrist/believe/life-has-purpose/grief?cid=42001274
My little brother died just before hed turned 30, that was 12 years ago, and I am still not at the point of being OK, so I have no idea how she must be feeling! I know we will see our loved ones again, but in the interim it's hard 😢😢😢
We're sorry for the pain you feel from the loss of your little brother. We hope you feel comfort and peace from your faith in God and our Savior, Jesus Christ. www.mormon.org/site/purpose-of-life/what-happens-when-we-die
Awsome!
yes He does
Amen
Saying sorry ain't going to change the problems your mistakes create problems