Always like your videos. TYVM. The nose angle is relative to the throwing plane AND the relative wind. An exaggerated explanation: you are on a level throwing pad at the top of a steep slope with an uphill wind. If you throw the disk level to your body the disk will soon be flying in an upwind or nose up condition relative to the wind and will balloon as expected. So two factors are primarily at play: the plane on which you release but more so, the relative wind in which the disk is flying. Putting is a great example of this. You release dead straight and level. A gust of head wind changes the lift and you sail over the basket. This is true for any accelerated shape creating pressure differences in a fluid. For disk golf that fluid is usually air. We accelerate the disk by throwing but we release in to movement through the fluid. It is the interaction of an additional factor that effects flight. That being disk design. So a release angle relative to the body or terrain, plus the design of the disk (overstable etc.), plus the movement of the air (fluid) substantially contribute to the dream of the shapes we want and the reality of the shapes we get.
I've heard the drill you're referring to called a "worm burner" drill. I don't think it's good for practicing how to throw, but I found it useful for overcorrecting high throws. I was launching all my distance drives waaay to high, and nothing I did was correcting the muscle memory until I ran through that drill a few times. It hasn't been the most helpful throwing drill, but it did end up being useful to me in that situation.
After thinking about it, I found this pretty useful Danny. An annoying issue that seems to sneak back in all to frequently. Thanks again keep the help 'a comin.
As a new player, less than two months, I find these slow motion demonstrations super helpful. Yeah, the camera quality leaves a little to be desired, but the demo and the talk are very helpful. Keep it up!
I'm a total newbie, having played only for about a month seriously, and your videos have been an immense help. Up until now, I've been solely training my backhand motion, thinking that it is the most important one between it and the forehand. However, after watching your video on how to throw a forehand and taking it to the field I soon discovered that I have been a fool for only relying on my backhand until now. Using your grip I immediately started flicking midranges like the Compass about 270 feet, and with accuracy that quite honestly surprised me. Granted, I can throw a backhand farther already, and I realize that the potential it has over the forehand regarding distance is a lot bigger. But I still have a long way to go with my accuracy using my backhand, and I still struggle to keep my backhands straight and low, something which has made my home course (which consists mostly of very narrow wooded holes) painstakingly difficult to enjoy. It actually started to put me off disc golf a little, but now that I unlocked the power of the forehand (thanks to you!) I will be able to make shots on these holes that were difficult, if not impossible earlier. It will surely help me grow my confidence in my abilities and my discs, which I'm sure will translate into a reliable backhand sooner rather than later. It also almost doubled my repertoire of shots, which instantly made Disc Golf even more fun! Thanks again, and keep on being awesome! P.S : Being a quite competent golfer I absolutely love the technical challenges of disc golf, which in my mind is an equally challenging sport, having to deal with so many different factors like plastics, wind, different types of discs, different types of shots and holes etc. I'm so happy to have found this pastime :).
I watched this yesterday before playing after a 2 week break of not playing. It helped a lot. A consistent challenge I’m having is throwing up over about a 6 foot incline that levels out. I have either been over rotating my release or throwing nose up. I nailed it on that difficult hole yesterday thanks.
This is a question I've had within my own mind for months now and never got a chance to ask it.. thanks so much Danny, your videos are always spot on and a great help!
You always have some good information... thanks for sharing this perspective...I am learning a lot from your videos keep spreading the love of disc golf
As usual, a nice vid that gives me something to think about. Getting nose down for me seems to be automatic when I think about putting pressure under my thumb, kind of getting that thumb angle slightly down. When I do that, nose down isn't a problem, and as a bonus, I get more rotation speed on the disc.
another way to think about it, is if you can see the stamp on the top of the disc after you throw it... it is nose up. If you throw it correctly at any height or angle you should see the smallest possible profile, and you will not see the top of the disc.
Intersting analysis. I find when I'm throwing downhill shots, I often throw nose up, and it may be in part because I'm trying to reach back high and finish low, but I don't practice it very much. I also find that I tend to yank the shot right on uphill shots even if the teepad is level.
Bell notifications on! keep the content like this coming. hard to find videos that i feel can help me take my DG game to the next level. this was an interesting thing to learn
REALLY shifting to the front leg puts you in the position to release with the "correct" nose angle. It puts your body in a position that allows your arm to release the disc with good nose angle with a lot less thinking and effort in the height of your backswing. Don't worry about anything else. SHIFT TO THE FRONT LEG FULLY BEFORE YOU MOVE YOUR ARM.
Another good one. I used to throw nose up (relative to the trajectory), on high shots and low shots until I started cocking my wrist down (like pushing down on a handshake) in my grip and through the pull. Cool to see you are doing the same through you're shots as well (I think I got that from a past video of yours?)
I really enjoyed the video. Maybe you already made a video talking about flight dynamics but I would love to understand the science behind why a rhbh disc fades left and a rhfh disc fades right.
Aw man, yer got rid of the mustachio!! I was just beginning to think you were wicked stylish. (Shouldn't take you 2 guesses why) one of my bestmates struggles with nose-up, only thing keeps him going is that he can putt circles around me. Gonna share this see if he improves with some practice drills.
Great video, i am struggling with thus atm, and thanks for all the stuff you put out there, its a great help for understanding what to work with. Something i notice you are doing while throwing is lagging behind with the head rotation. is this something that is generally good to incorporate in a good power throw?
Nose down, got it.... But , can you talk more about line of drive when trying to throw a high speed driver max distance? How much of an angle should there be between max reach back and your release point on the line of drive. Low to high with nose down but can you demonstrate and discuss in more detail?
Love the videos. Hurt my lower back from bad form recently (learning how not to throw moving forward). Becoming more proficient with forehand. Any suggestions for nose down with forehand?
Flex your wrist down like you're pouring coffee and make sure the disc isn't tilted backwards in your hand. I've got a video on grip and nose down on here!
I can throw ~325 right now with a flat release. Every time I try to throw higher, the disc seems to stall out at ~270, no matter how much I try to get the nose down relative to trajectory. Any tips?
Good stuff. I've been trying to level out my nose angle, but have trouble even gripping the disc with nose down. Power grip and no pinky power grip still leave the disc pointing a bit up in my hand. Can't seem to bend my wrist down that much... Is it a horrible idea to grip with middle, ring, and pinky, and put the index on top to help push the nose down?
Yeah getting the disc nose down in the grip isn't as important as you'd think. The three finger power grip is probably fine even if it's tilted up a little bit.
today i played and just happend to try to practise nose down, just arrived home and saw your video, had to laugh a little at the coincidence. anyway, my question would be, if i need to change the grip or just on my wrist in order to get the nose angle right? or does the problem automatically fix itself once i reach back correctly as you describe in the video (could very well be as my reachback is definately too high)
@Dave Munsie bro I didn't ask how to throw a hyzer flip S shot that's some newbie crap lol I want to throw high with my nose down that's how pros get distance. How long you been playing?
Same way when you throw flat, on higher throw you just aim higher or downhill aim lower meaning reach back low to release high or down hill reach back high to release low.
Everytime I try to correct my form, by trying to fix my high reachback, every Shot I reach back lower goes on a hyzer angle and I get 0% of Speed on the disc...
Have you tried standing up straighter as you throw? It sounds like you might have a balance issue that's causing your reachback to offset your swing. That's usually from moving too fast and leaning back as you reach back.
@@DannyLindahl Moving too fast sound 100% like me... I've also tried slowing down, but this effectively kills my timing and my distance gets even worse. It's an endless cycle of bad habits
Always like your videos. TYVM.
The nose angle is relative to the throwing plane AND the relative wind. An exaggerated explanation: you are on a level throwing pad at the top of a steep slope with an uphill wind. If you throw the disk level to your body the disk will soon be flying in an upwind or nose up condition relative to the wind and will balloon as expected. So two factors are primarily at play: the plane on which you release but more so, the relative wind in which the disk is flying. Putting is a great example of this. You release dead straight and level. A gust of head wind changes the lift and you sail over the basket. This is true for any accelerated shape creating pressure differences in a fluid. For disk golf that fluid is usually air. We accelerate the disk by throwing but we release in to movement through the fluid. It is the interaction of an additional factor that effects flight. That being disk design. So a release angle relative to the body or terrain, plus the design of the disk (overstable etc.), plus the movement of the air (fluid) substantially contribute to the dream of the shapes we want and the reality of the shapes we get.
Never stop making videos, you’re the man.
I've heard the drill you're referring to called a "worm burner" drill. I don't think it's good for practicing how to throw, but I found it useful for overcorrecting high throws. I was launching all my distance drives waaay to high, and nothing I did was correcting the muscle memory until I ran through that drill a few times. It hasn't been the most helpful throwing drill, but it did end up being useful to me in that situation.
Thank you for the advice, can't wait for next season as i had a shoulder surgery today
After thinking about it, I found this pretty useful Danny. An annoying issue that seems to sneak back in all to frequently. Thanks again keep the help 'a comin.
Just got started last month and you’ve made learning the game SO much easier and less frustrating than it would have been. Thanks so much Danny!
As a new player, less than two months, I find these slow motion demonstrations super helpful. Yeah, the camera quality leaves a little to be desired, but the demo and the talk are very helpful. Keep it up!
I love that you found a new way of thinking about an old problem. Thank you for your insight.
I'm a total newbie, having played only for about a month seriously, and your videos have been an immense help.
Up until now, I've been solely training my backhand motion, thinking that it is the most important one between it and the forehand. However, after watching your video on how to throw a forehand and taking it to the field I soon discovered that I have been a fool for only relying on my backhand until now. Using your grip I immediately started flicking midranges like the Compass about 270 feet, and with accuracy that quite honestly surprised me.
Granted, I can throw a backhand farther already, and I realize that the potential it has over the forehand regarding distance is a lot bigger. But I still have a long way to go with my accuracy using my backhand, and I still struggle to keep my backhands straight and low, something which has made my home course (which consists mostly of very narrow wooded holes) painstakingly difficult to enjoy. It actually started to put me off disc golf a little, but now that I unlocked the power of the forehand (thanks to you!) I will be able to make shots on these holes that were difficult, if not impossible earlier. It will surely help me grow my confidence in my abilities and my discs, which I'm sure will translate into a reliable backhand sooner rather than later. It also almost doubled my repertoire of shots, which instantly made Disc Golf even more fun!
Thanks again, and keep on being awesome!
P.S : Being a quite competent golfer I absolutely love the technical challenges of disc golf, which in my mind is an equally challenging sport, having to deal with so many different factors like plastics, wind, different types of discs, different types of shots and holes etc. I'm so happy to have found this pastime :).
The nose angle is much better without the stache.
^^ gold
This is fantastic to learn. I can't wait to get back out to the course and test this myself. Thanks Danny you give great advice
I watched this yesterday before playing after a 2 week break of not playing. It helped a lot. A consistent challenge I’m having is throwing up over about a 6 foot incline that levels out. I have either been over rotating my release or throwing nose up. I nailed it on that difficult hole yesterday thanks.
This is a question I've had within my own mind for months now and never got a chance to ask it.. thanks so much Danny, your videos are always spot on and a great help!
You always have some good information... thanks for sharing this perspective...I am learning a lot from your videos keep spreading the love of disc golf
I love some of the more heavily-produced content you create, but I think the conversational style works well for you here.
Thanks for the tip, as I thought it was all in the grip.
As usual, a nice vid that gives me something to think about. Getting nose down for me seems to be automatic when I think about putting pressure under my thumb, kind of getting that thumb angle slightly down. When I do that, nose down isn't a problem, and as a bonus, I get more rotation speed on the disc.
Thank you so much. I was so confused before and did not understand how pros threw it that high when nose up is bad😂 keep up the good work
another way to think about it, is if you can see the stamp on the top of the disc after you throw it... it is nose up. If you throw it correctly at any height or angle you should see the smallest possible profile, and you will not see the top of the disc.
I am awful with nose up! Thanks for all the help Danny!
Thanks, Danny! That certainly clears up my confusion on the terms.
Thank you for the video
Had no issue with video or audio quality.
If that’s off the cuff video I’m impressed!
Take care have a great day.
Always appreciate your videos and the timing on this for me is perfect. Keep up the great work!
3:09 is the face I make when the teacher says there is extra credit. Great vid though Danny!
Think of the nose as the leading edge of the disc...
Thank you Danny. Much appreciation for the advise as always.
Its finalllly gone!!!!!! Now i can watch your videos again lmfaoo
Intersting analysis. I find when I'm throwing downhill shots, I often throw nose up, and it may be in part because I'm trying to reach back high and finish low, but I don't practice it very much.
I also find that I tend to yank the shot right on uphill shots even if the teepad is level.
Great video Danny, gave me some awesome tips for field day. Been struggling with these exact same issues
Bell notifications on! keep the content like this coming. hard to find videos that i feel can help me take my DG game to the next level. this was an interesting thing to learn
REALLY shifting to the front leg puts you in the position to release with the "correct" nose angle. It puts your body in a position that allows your arm to release the disc with good nose angle with a lot less thinking and effort in the height of your backswing. Don't worry about anything else. SHIFT TO THE FRONT LEG FULLY BEFORE YOU MOVE YOUR ARM.
Love it. Thanks! Ugh, nose up. My biggest issue throwing.
The ah ha moment for me for throwing nose up was the grip. Placing the disc between the first two fingers and then wrapping them round. Works wonders.
Another good one. I used to throw nose up (relative to the trajectory), on high shots and low shots until I started cocking my wrist down (like pushing down on a handshake) in my grip and through the pull. Cool to see you are doing the same through you're shots as well (I think I got that from a past video of yours?)
I really enjoyed the video. Maybe you already made a video talking about flight dynamics but I would love to understand the science behind why a rhbh disc fades left and a rhfh disc fades right.
The maharajah of disc golf. XLNT video.
Great advice
Very helpful, thanks
Aw man, yer got rid of the mustachio!! I was just beginning to think you were wicked stylish. (Shouldn't take you 2 guesses why) one of my bestmates struggles with nose-up, only thing keeps him going is that he can putt circles around me. Gonna share this see if he improves with some practice drills.
I've learned more from your vids than any other. I bet it'd be fun as hell to shoot a round with you.
Its confusing because logically if you reach back farther down you would think it makes the disc nose up because you are following through upwards.
I'm gonna try this out next time I play.
Good video, Danny. I miss the 'stache days tho.
A video on how to throw backhand with actual footage would be awesome @Danny Lindahl
Great video, i am struggling with thus atm, and thanks for all the stuff you put out there, its a great help for understanding what to work with. Something i notice you are doing while throwing is lagging behind with the head rotation. is this something that is generally good to incorporate in a good power throw?
Nose down, got it.... But , can you talk more about line of drive when trying to throw a high speed driver max distance? How much of an angle should there be between max reach back and your release point on the line of drive. Low to high with nose down but can you demonstrate and discuss in more detail?
That was a really unfortunate spot to stop the video
Alway great! What brand of totes are you using in the background for discs?
dope danny, keep it up
Love the videos. Hurt my lower back from bad form recently (learning how not to throw moving forward). Becoming more proficient with forehand. Any suggestions for nose down with forehand?
Always awesome. 😎
What do I need to do with my disc hand/wrist to help keep the nose down? Or is nose up only caused be reach back and release point?
Flex your wrist down like you're pouring coffee and make sure the disc isn't tilted backwards in your hand. I've got a video on grip and nose down on here!
I am/was a shot putter and discus thrower does blocking play a role in power generation at the end of the throw?
I can throw ~325 right now with a flat release. Every time I try to throw higher, the disc seems to stall out at ~270, no matter how much I try to get the nose down relative to trajectory. Any tips?
Practice repeat ⚡
So Danny, is not not really possible or just insanely difficult to reach back straight pull straight and release straight?
Good stuff. I've been trying to level out my nose angle, but have trouble even gripping the disc with nose down. Power grip and no pinky power grip still leave the disc pointing a bit up in my hand. Can't seem to bend my wrist down that much... Is it a horrible idea to grip with middle, ring, and pinky, and put the index on top to help push the nose down?
Yeah getting the disc nose down in the grip isn't as important as you'd think. The three finger power grip is probably fine even if it's tilted up a little bit.
@@DannyLindahl Thanks for the feedback. :)
today i played and just happend to try to practise nose down, just arrived home and saw your video, had to laugh a little at the coincidence. anyway, my question would be, if i need to change the grip or just on my wrist in order to get the nose angle right? or does the problem automatically fix itself once i reach back correctly as you describe in the video (could very well be as my reachback is definately too high)
I would say you have to maintain 3 things to reduce or get off from nose up.
1. Grip
2. Wrist angle
3. Correct reach back and release
How far do you throw Danny?
The question is really, how do you throw high af with a nose down angle.
@Dave Munsie bro I didn't ask how to throw a hyzer flip S shot that's some newbie crap lol I want to throw high with my nose down that's how pros get distance. How long you been playing?
Same way when you throw flat, on higher throw you just aim higher or downhill aim lower meaning reach back low to release high or down hill reach back high to release low.
angle of attack
What is danny's discord server
Everytime I try to correct my form, by trying to fix my high reachback, every Shot I reach back lower goes on a hyzer angle and I get 0% of Speed on the disc...
Have you tried standing up straighter as you throw? It sounds like you might have a balance issue that's causing your reachback to offset your swing. That's usually from moving too fast and leaning back as you reach back.
@@DannyLindahl Moving too fast sound 100% like me... I've also tried slowing down, but this effectively kills my timing and my distance gets even worse. It's an endless cycle of bad habits
Danny do you have a disc gold discord?
Man I'd love to get in that discord
Glad the stache is gone 😂
FamBattles lol
Sorry Danny. My wife saw you and immediately asked "no, but seriously, how old is he?" #ripthestach