Thanks for the review! I recently bought this bow, being an absolute beginner, so it's nice to hear i've made a reasonably good choice. I've made a habit of practicing both thumb release and Mediterranean combined with holding left and right while holding 3 arrows in the bow hand. It's a good way of giving my fingers some time to relax a few days. I hope to visit Malta some day and come practice at the range. Your videos are a true inspiration. Thanks a lot! With kind regards, Jan-Willem
I bought this bow in 55# and I have to say I recommend to wear a thin glove, or thicken the grip, because my bow hand got a little bit sore after few days of shooting in a row
I have this bow, it's the first and only one I have (for now hehehe ;) for about a year. It's nice to see you review this bow and I must agree; It's a fun shooter. Once I can get back to the range (hopefully soon) I hope it can teach me all about thumb release. The rest of the club shoots longbow or olympic style and compared to those you can see that these bows are little speed monsters.
Thank you for the review! I have this bow at 30# in my collection, and it's a not-expensive, nice, very sturdy and stiff, beginner friendly bow that I could recommend for activities that provide a damage risk (horseback shooting, hiking & 3D shooting, teaching new shooters and children).
Just bought 30# today ( was between 30 and 35 , but despite the trainer warning me it will become lighter faster it is my first ever bow and I just started. So form and enjoinment have precedent ( as with the motorcycles - it will not stay alone for long so plenty of time for stronger bows in the future :) ) thank you for the great reviews for beginner bows - they helped A TON !!!
Good looking bow, the shape reminds me of the AF Archery Tartars. Hmm didn't the Flint look alot like the first iteration of the turkish from AF. I wonder if they sold there original molds. Anyway sweet looking little shooter should be a great beginners bow and for the money through Malta Archery with arrows and a second string! As Armin would say " a no brainer". Thanks for another great review my friend keep em coming!
Awesome video as always Armin ! I will probably buy the Hayk for my girlfriend in 25#, the Tatar design is wonderful. I like the little change you made in your rating system, to mark /10 and not on 5 stars. Much easier to read ! Have fun and keep shooting :D
i ve a longbow from buck trail . there is nothing to complain at this price and i m fine with it . but a delamination problem might be not unusual for these brand . very suprising because bucktrail is made for win & win in china . w & w is a very high quality brand so far i know . a companion at my archeryclub had a delamination with his longbow in the summertime . but there was absolute no problem with a replacement for the bow -- takes only 4 days and he got a new one and it still works 3 years now.
Buck Trail? I still remember how the Flint model snapped in your review. In my (limited) experience, the only "cheap" bows I would buy are from Alibow.
Thank you very much for this review Armin. I have bought one of these bows. I do not have a tiller so I cannot say if mine has the same imbalance as your one, but the finish on the handle does not have those scratchy bits yours did, but I can detect the slight uneven profile of the limb. I presume this is just luck with the mass production. For the price it is a very good bow. I also have a bucktrail antelope traditional recurve which is a very nice bow.
That’s 5ft11 in imperial measurements. Very useful to know . As when watching the draw you have to bear in mind your arm length will be longer or shorter perhaps. So a comfortable position may mean different draw lengths for different people.
Even though I started archery when I was 15, ohhhh so many years ago, until recently the only thing I would associate the word ‘tatar’ with was a mispronunciation of the sauce.😝 get it? Tartar sauce? 🙄. Anyway another great vid. Always a pleasure to watch you shoot. Cheers👍😎🇨🇦🏹
Tartars are people form Tartary/Tartaria. That was a name the Europeans used for Asia. While all Tatars are Tartars, not all Tartars are Tatar. The term and it's use goes back to the 13th century. From Old French Tartaire, from Medieval Latin Tartarus (“Tartar, Mongol”), from Old Turkic Tatar (Tatar), spelling influenced by Latin Tartarus (“Hell (in Greek mythology)”), from Ancient Greek Τάρταρος (Tártaros). Historia Mongalorum quos nos Tartaros appellamus (“History of the Mongols Whom We Call the Tartars”) and Liber Tartarorum (“Book of the Tartars”). Giovanni Da Pian Del Carpini, FRANCISCAN AUTHOR 1247
True. I had a look at both at my local archery shop. I was about to buy the Sada first, but it was not in storage in with 40# and the current version has orange colored string rests, which looks terrible, imho. Got the Hayk now and like it. A lot.
I really like that bow but I'm still curious what to buy for beginning... Buck Trail Hayk, Flint or Oakridge Sada or should I choose something else in that price range?
@@JSmithski Mój miał 35 funtów i ciągnąłem maksymalnie na 30 cali, bardzo gładko szło ale nie wiem jak dalej bo strzały za krótkie. Przy 50 funtach i takiej długości łuku 32 cale mogą być już trudne do osiągnięcia.
Armin., I love your videos. My bow has broken and I am going to buy a 30lb bow and was hesitating between black flash and black shadow from Freddie archery, Hayk from buck trail, or sada from oakridge. Which one would you recommend? Thank you, you're the best.
Hello sir, I have a 33LB horsebow bow with 30 inch draw, I am wondering what arrows will be most suitable for it, im a beginner into archery. Many thanks
@@ArminHirmer oh yes. You mentioned it in one of the previous video (about your life). I thought it was on pause at the moment. Oh well. The pandemic is ruining everything.
This bow was my first bow and it was a good starter bow to get me going, had lots of fun practicing with it and getting used to archery. Unfortunately I managed to crack the nock of the top ( I think this is how it's called), but that was my mistake. The production was good. Problem is - the bone dots from the top of the handle started to fall off, this is the thing that I didn't like with the bow. Other than that, for me it was a good investment, getting my simsek bow soon!
This doesn't look too bad of a deal to begin with Tatar. I bought an Hungarian bow at a medieval fair in Switzerland and it's too powerful for me with my 30" draw length. It stacks at 46#... Could you maybe do a review with your bow and tests of the best
@@ArminHirmer awesome ! Thank you. Looking forward to it. Under 300 give some place for higher quality and made to order bow. Maybe under 200 in the future for mass production ?
I like your reviews because you are always honest about what the bow is really like
thank you, thats the only way which works for me :)
My favorite bow design the Tatar bows. Looks nice and
looks cool for fun in the evenings. In your hands they always shoot super well 🥰🏹
Thanks for the review! I recently bought this bow, being an absolute beginner, so it's nice to hear i've made a reasonably good choice. I've made a habit of practicing both thumb release and Mediterranean combined with holding left and right while holding 3 arrows in the bow hand. It's a good way of giving my fingers some time to relax a few days. I hope to visit Malta some day and come practice at the range. Your videos are a true inspiration. Thanks a lot! With kind regards, Jan-Willem
I bought this bow in 55# and I have to say I recommend to wear a thin glove, or thicken the grip, because my bow hand got a little bit sore after few days of shooting in a row
I have this bow, it's the first and only one I have (for now hehehe ;) for about a year. It's nice to see you review this bow and I must agree; It's a fun shooter. Once I can get back to the range (hopefully soon) I hope it can teach me all about thumb release. The rest of the club shoots longbow or olympic style and compared to those you can see that these bows are little speed monsters.
Thank you for the review! I have this bow at 30# in my collection, and it's a not-expensive, nice, very sturdy and stiff, beginner friendly bow that I could recommend for activities that provide a damage risk (horseback shooting, hiking & 3D shooting, teaching new shooters and children).
Just bought 30# today ( was between 30 and 35 , but despite the trainer warning me it will become lighter faster it is my first ever bow and I just started. So form and enjoinment have precedent ( as with the motorcycles - it will not stay alone for long so plenty of time for stronger bows in the future :) ) thank you for the great reviews for beginner bows - they helped A TON !!!
Welcome enjoy shooting
Thank you Armin. Your reviews are always a welcome part of my day.
Also, it looks very much like the AF bow (which I liked alot), especially the string pad.
I always like the Tatar bows this one looks so nice
Good looking bow, the shape reminds me of the AF Archery Tartars. Hmm didn't the Flint look alot like the first iteration of the turkish from AF. I wonder if they sold there original molds. Anyway sweet looking little shooter should be a great beginners bow and for the money through Malta Archery with arrows and a second string! As Armin would say " a no brainer". Thanks for another great review my friend keep em coming!
I guess they all do private label with the same bow builder :)
Awesome video as always Armin !
I will probably buy the Hayk for my girlfriend in 25#, the Tatar design is wonderful.
I like the little change you made in your rating system, to mark /10 and not on 5 stars. Much easier to read !
Have fun and keep shooting :D
i ve a longbow from buck trail . there is nothing to complain at this price and i m fine with it . but a delamination problem might be not
unusual for these brand . very suprising because bucktrail is made for win & win in china . w & w is a very high quality brand so far i know
. a companion at my archeryclub had a delamination with his longbow in the summertime . but there was absolute
no problem with a replacement for the bow -- takes only 4 days and he got a new one and it still works 3 years now.
Buck Trail? I still remember how the Flint model snapped in your review.
In my (limited) experience, the only "cheap" bows I would buy are from Alibow.
The Flint , Hayk are made by Alibow ( look at the handle) for SSA archery in Belgium .
@@jme104 the bow and the handle look more like AF archery, rather than Alibow.
Hi Armin, thanks for the review, was thinking to get this bow, saw it selling at very affordable price in my place.
Wow that Tatar style bow is fantastic🏹🏹🏹🏹👍👍👍👍👍😃😃😃😃
very tempting bow, performance is excellent and so cheap it's almost worth trying your luck for a good one lol
hello sir, what is the bow you are using at 0:33 (image on the right) thank you.
Thank you very much for this review Armin. I have bought one of these bows. I do not have a tiller so I cannot say if mine has the same imbalance as your one, but the finish on the handle does not have those scratchy bits yours did, but I can detect the slight uneven profile of the limb. I presume this is just luck with the mass production. For the price it is a very good bow. I also have a bucktrail antelope traditional recurve which is a very nice bow.
U dont need a tiller to measure the distance between each bend on both top and bottom. Mine is 8" and 8 1/8.
hi armin..what is recommended arrow spine and weight for this 40# bow..tq
Looks like a pretty nice bow - the tiller issue. Not a bad price with all you get. 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸
Weird question, but how tall are you? It makes it easier to understand relative size in a way that knowing the bow measurements doesn't.
180cm
That’s 5ft11 in imperial measurements.
Very useful to know . As when watching the draw you have to bear in mind your arm length will be longer or shorter perhaps.
So a comfortable position may mean different draw lengths for different people.
@@intotheunknown8386 How much is that in Big Macs?
@@sheepuswoolius Same height as me in big macs
Even though I started archery when I was 15, ohhhh so many years ago, until recently the only thing I would associate the word ‘tatar’ with was a mispronunciation of the sauce.😝 get it? Tartar sauce? 🙄. Anyway another great vid. Always a pleasure to watch you shoot. Cheers👍😎🇨🇦🏹
Tartars are people form Tartary/Tartaria. That was a name the Europeans used for Asia. While all Tatars are Tartars, not all Tartars are Tatar. The term and it's use goes back to the 13th century. From Old French Tartaire, from Medieval Latin Tartarus (“Tartar, Mongol”), from Old Turkic Tatar (Tatar), spelling influenced by Latin Tartarus (“Hell (in Greek mythology)”), from Ancient Greek Τάρταρος (Tártaros). Historia Mongalorum quos nos Tartaros appellamus (“History of the Mongols Whom We Call the Tartars”) and Liber Tartarorum (“Book of the Tartars”). Giovanni Da Pian Del Carpini, FRANCISCAN AUTHOR 1247
@@mikeorick6898 Cool info. I still have a craving for fish though😝. Cheers from Canada😎🇨🇦🏹
Whare is can buy this bow? Thank's
Tatars are awesome
That's very good value for what you get very nice bow
👏🇮🇪
Buck Trail should make an statement regarding the tailoring of this bow.
Its mass production so that's what happens. You could just shoot it upside down no problem.
Thanks always look forward to your reviews
This bow was added to my local archery shop just recently couldn't find much on TH-cam about it. Armin how did you know I was interested?
I felt you :D
It looks very similiar than Oak Ridge Sada...
True. I had a look at both at my local archery shop.
I was about to buy the Sada first, but it was not in storage in with 40# and the current version has orange colored string rests, which looks terrible, imho.
Got the Hayk now and like it. A lot.
I really like that bow but I'm still curious what to buy for beginning... Buck Trail Hayk, Flint or Oakridge Sada or should I choose something else in that price range?
Hello i just by this bow. Can you recomende the arrows and sale?
Looks like a rebranded AF Archery Tartar bow.
Yeah looks like maybe they do private labeling there
Wow that looks very smooth. Enjoy! :)
If one were to choose between this bow and the scythian from flagella dei, which one would you recommend?
My hayk broke after couple trainings, it was sad because it was a really great shooter ;P
Jaki naciąg, lbs i cale? Planuje kupić go w wersji 50# i ciągnąć do 32”.
@@JSmithski Mój miał 35 funtów i ciągnąłem maksymalnie na 30 cali, bardzo gładko szło ale nie wiem jak dalej bo strzały za krótkie. Przy 50 funtach i takiej długości łuku 32 cale mogą być już trudne do osiągnięcia.
Sebastian Maliszewski to jak to się stało że pękł? Strzeliłeś na sucho?
@@JSmithski nieee, w czasie naciągania się rozwarstwił poniżej majdanu, zaznaczę, że strzelam z łuku dłuższy czas i nie z winy mojej obsługi :P
Sebastian Maliszewski czyli lipa i nie warto? Potrzebuję czegoś w tym właśnie stylu Ok 45-50# i naciąg 31-32”
Armin., I love your videos. My bow has broken and I am going to buy a 30lb bow and was hesitating between black flash and black shadow from Freddie archery, Hayk from buck trail, or sada from oakridge. Which one would you recommend? Thank you, you're the best.
Hi Celia. 3 very different bows. I would go with Korean bow :)
@@ArminHirmer thank you so much.
Thanks for the info.. should be getting one soon :)
How is this bow doing? And can you shoot with fingers as my 48” korean is too short for even slavic draw
The hayk is a bit longer so it should be fine
@@ArminHirmer Great thank you
What arrows?
Mr Hirmer, what would you recommend for above 40# Tatar/Ming xiaoshao style bow for a limited budget? The Oakridge Sada maybe?
In higher # I am not so sure with these bows. I would go with a fiberglass bow by Alibow or Grozer
Hello sir, I have a 33LB horsebow bow with 30 inch draw, I am wondering what arrows will be most suitable for it, im a beginner into archery. Many thanks
Hi. Not too heavy but stiff enough. Wood, carbon all will do. Wood spined 35-40# and carbon 600. If you shoot thumb release :)
@@ArminHirmer thank you👌🏽
I am sorry, but correct me if I am wrong, isn't Malta archery = Armin archery?
it was for almost 8 years, I handed it over to one of my assistants. Not my business anymore
@@ArminHirmer oh yes. You mentioned it in one of the previous video (about your life). I thought it was on pause at the moment. Oh well. The pandemic is ruining everything.
Thanks always a good vid😀😀
This bow was my first bow and it was a good starter bow to get me going, had lots of fun practicing with it and getting used to archery. Unfortunately I managed to crack the nock of the top ( I think this is how it's called), but that was my mistake. The production was good. Problem is - the bone dots from the top of the handle started to fall off, this is the thing that I didn't like with the bow. Other than that, for me it was a good investment, getting my simsek bow soon!
This bad boy is a beautiful bow
Great looking bow.
This doesn't look too bad of a deal to begin with Tatar.
I bought an Hungarian bow at a medieval fair in Switzerland and it's too powerful for me with my 30" draw length. It stacks at 46#...
Could you maybe do a review with your bow and tests of the best
the thumb protector is not available at the moment, when it is there will be a new video. and a top 5 of eastern bow for under 300 Euro, great idea!
@@ArminHirmer awesome ! Thank you. Looking forward to it.
Under 300 give some place for higher quality and made to order bow.
Maybe under 200 in the future for mass production ?
Looks nice, fast and very good price , are you back at Malta Archery for a while until your move ?😃😃👍
I still use the range for my videos until I move
Beautifull bow...
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