Thank you for watching! This was a long time coming, and a very fun video to make. Clarifying one thing: It's a generally agreed upon rule to skip the first Deku Cycle in this challenge since the first Deku cycle runs at increased speed compared to the first Hylian Link cycle. I had this in the video at some point, but it made the intro drag on too long, so I recorded a shorter explanation after cutting the first but... forgot to actually insert it? Wouldn't be an EonAegis video if there wasn't some massive glaring oversight, I guess! I'm sorry if that confused anyone. Also, I know Smiffic made a video recently-ish. That video is really good! But I want to clarify - no, he did not do it first on TH-cam either. As far as I can tell, that was @Seahawk0027, 10 years ago. I deliberately did not watch Smiffic's video when it came out as I wanted to route this out myself. Please understand that multiple creators can make the same thing, completely seperate from one another. This happens all the time!
This sounds like an interesting challenge; I like the idea that Link is like "ffs we must get rid of that moon like RIGHT NOW!", and speedruns the whole game. It feels more elegant to beat everything without warping back to the First Day when you technically don't need to do it.
@knifegaming997 The 3ds version ain't that bad, most of the changes are welcome. It sucks not to be able to freely swim as a zora, but at least the temple and pirate fortress sections are much more easily maneuverable (and it's not like they removed quick swimming, you can still do it, but sadly it uses magic) The only real bad change I can think of is the ice arrows, and even then they affect a really small portion of the game. For all intents and purposes, the remake is better imo and severely overhated
11:55 the wizrobe shows up 5 times throughout the game. twice in snowhead, once in castle ikana, once in stone tower temple, and one last time in the secret shrine
Interesting twist would be to see how much prep you can do in the deku cycle by taking advantage of sneaking past the guards to get termina field early
in general, majora goes down like a bitch to zora link, especially majora’s wrath because of the barrier basically making you immune to getting grabbed
As soon as this thing posted, I was playing the 3DS version. I got to the final boss when I noticed the video clicked on it and immediately watched it and as soon as you beat the final boss, so did I lol
Great run, my only thought on potential improvement would be to swing by the laundry pool night 1 and get the Bremen mask and then once youve gotten eponas song (or right before, your call lol) go age up somenchickens and get the bunny hood for much more speed as human link. Im pretty sure overall goron roll might be faster but you need magic refills fairly often.
Someone else did it first, actually ;) MM in one cycle with completed Anju & Kafei isn't actually too much of a hassle. Pick up Kafei's Mask before going into Woodfall Temple or right after it depending on how your clock is looking when you're there, and stop by the inn with it before you head out to Epona. You can then meet with Anju at nighttime, at 12:30. From there, you just need to make pitstops at the correct timings, but time isn't as tight anymore by that point as you can see from the video(s) :)
You actually don't need to watch Darmani go to the cave. once you get the lens, just warp to mountain village and go to the grave, Darmani will be there without needing to wait. You still need to talk to him before the song of healing will work, so the lens is still needed.
You can't if you've never had beans before! In an earlier attempt, he just told me I didn't know how to use them. You have to get the freebean from the bean seller at least once!
I first attempted this challenge with the 3DS version, but I'm not sure if its possible. The main reason being that the Inverted Song of Time doesn't triple how much time you have in a cycle anymore, making the beeline from Woodfall to Snowhead back to Milk Road seemingly impossible. It could be possible, but I definitely don't have the skills to pull it off
I don't think I could EVER have the knowledge, patience, or skill to do this challenge. Incredible job Eon! Would a one cycle run be possible for MM3D? It's okay if not I just thought it would be cool to see how different the run for the 3D version would be. You're amazing bro! #Justice4Monkey
That's the Doyalist explanation. The Watsonian explanation is that Malon is a Gerudo. Wearing the Gerudo mask to talk to Talon has him comment that you look like his wife. Fun fact: If we then follow the theory that TP Link is a descendant of OoT Link and Malon, and recognise that all Gerudo women have Hylian fathers, but are seen as full Gerudo in a form of One-Drop Rule: Twilight Princess Link is the next once in a century male Gerudo. Meaning he would be their king.
Majora's Mask is my favorite game & good video. The song If the World Should End by Bruno Mars & Lady Gaga reminds me a lot of Anju & Kafei as the world is ending & they're trying to be together for their last few hours
Thank you! :D Technically, @Seahawk0027 did it first. Smiffic and I just had the same idea in the recent years, and while my attempts graduated from single segment practices to full runs around the time he released his video, I can promise you I've done the work myself. Thank you for understanding :)
@@EonAegis Woah, TH-cam really did not want to show me Seahawk's channel. I searched fairly thoroughly and never found them, but sure enough they did it a whole decade ago.
@@skimmilk2774 great question! it would've been easier, but I couldn't budget in a red potion for Shiro before then since I had to save my money for a while to get the wallet upgrade for the sword. If you don't go for gilded sword, or route in the silver Rupee from the inn room, you definitely should just grab the stone mask beforehand. In all honesty, since I effectively cleared in a practice attempt, the route is still a little off. I might improve it one day... For now though, I'm actually looking into the 3DS version!
@EonAegis I'm wondering if it's possible to do all masks in one cycle. That's what had me searching for a video like yours in the first place. But that would probably be like TAS level optimization, especially if you wanted to do it without glitches. This is an awesome video though. Great work!
@@skimmilk2774 Thank you! Due to how certain masks are mutually exclusive, it takes 3 cycles at minimum without glitches. However, in that 3 cycles, it's possible to 100% complete the game as well.
Congrats on the run, very entertaining to watch! One thing this makes me wonder is if it would be possible to 100% Majora's Mask (that is, get all the masks, bottles, heart pieces, and great fairy rewards) in 3 days, since that would be the theoretical minimum for the Kafei/Anju sidequest splits - one cycle for Blast Mask and All-Night Mask, one for giving the express mail to the mailman, and one for delivering it straight to Mama. With glitches, you could bring the theoretical minimum to two cycles, since you can use a glitch to keep the express mail on a C-Button after giving it to the mailman, but I don't know if you could do everything else in those two cycles. EDIT: I meant three cycles, not days. Game can't be 100%ed in three days, obviously. :P
Thank you! I have been looking into a theoretical minimum. I think three cycles (glitchless) should be more than possible - the hardest thing really will be making enough space on the first run's first 12 hours. On the other hand, you won't have to fit all four dungeon clears into one cycle, so it might actually turn out easier than that. I'll be looking into that, and maybe 2 cycles :o Edit: I'm 100% certain 2 cycles isn't possible even with the express mail glitch. It's not because of the Express Mail itself but the circumstances around the Kafei quest to begin with. The All-Night's Mask and Couple's Mask are at odds with one another; You get the couples mask at the final day, final hours, and it must be used in the morning of any of the three days. This would be fine, except the All Night Mask can't be used during the final day as well. These two masks are mutually exclusive to one another, as they are dependent on Sakon, the thief. If Sakon is stopped on night 1, the Kafei quest does not conclude, so no couple's mask. However, if Sakon isn't stopped, the All Night Mask isn't put on sale on the final night. Since both of these require the next cycle, the theoretical minimum stays at 3 (4 if Deku Cycle is counted) even if you were to allow the express mail glitch.
No, saving the Bomb Shop lady which also allows the purchase of the All Night Mask stops the progress of the Kafei and Anju Side Quest on night 2. You also have to go through the Kafei and Anju Sidequest through day 3 twice to get both a bottle and the Postman's Hat. 100% is at least 4 cycle including Deku.
@@EonAegis damn ive been brainstorming and just realized that if you save the old lady for the bomb mask, then you can't do the anju kafei quest. actually impossible :(
I lost a lot of time, so I'm thinking it *could* be possible... but you only get 66% of the time you get in the N64 version since reverse time only slows you down to 50% speed instead of 33% speed. This mostly makes getting Epona a hassle among other adjustments that'll need to be made. I'm going to try, though.
@@EonAegis I tried to get to the ranch before 6pm on the first day, but when I had entered the first temple and was on my way to get the bow it was already after noon, the nerf to the inverted song of time makes it impossible
It'd be a harder challenge to find someone interested in a challenge video for this game that *doesn't* already understand that's implied since there's no way around it and it's identical every time
No, I hail from a place just a little further west! Also, although I'm from the same country as that great district, I don't currently reside in it. Thank you for the compliment on the video
I did a 3 day perfect run another day. For my rules, basically you need to save all 4 temples, complete (almost) the bomber notebook, get all the fairies, fight the bosses of the waterfall in Ikana and do some side quests to help some of the people (like Kafey and Anju, the postman, help write a music for the zoras, get the bottles and others). All of these exactly after getting the ocarina. It is massive work, especially in the first part of day 1, but it is fun. It's a "master quest" mode.
Doing all that is quite literally impossible, several entries in the bomber notebook alone are mutually exclusive and can't be done in the same cycle But you seem to know what you're talking about, please, post your own video proving all that is legit kek
@@Pappingy There is no need to be upset. I fix it my post. It's almost all of the bomber notebook, happy now? Well, it is still a difficult and challenging run
The MM community considers the one cycle run from the second cycle's start for that reason, although it is also theoretically possible to one cycle with more extensive glitch usage. Zelda 64 is utterly broken by this point though, so I prefer to avoid using things like that in my challenges if it can be avoided.
@@EonAegis i have a challenge for you can you beat mojaras mask without ever using your sword this sounds easy but idk maybe it's difficult but the goal is to 100% the game without ever using the sword just to make the video longer
A true first cycle without glitches is impossible. There is too much travel time required, and the first cycle actually runs on much faster time than subsequent cycles. Just compare the speed of the day to night/night to day clock and you can very easily notice this! Even if an exploit existed to allow you to get out of deku form immediately at 6AM Day 1 and also get the deku mask at the same time since it'd be required to get through deku palace, it'd be impossible to finish Day 1 fast enough on the sped up first cycle.
@@NoSpoilers-wb5ww typical average comment commenter, acting like they made some kind of gotcha when they have made little to no valid point or made any sense what so ever.😂😂
Thank you for watching! This was a long time coming, and a very fun video to make.
Clarifying one thing: It's a generally agreed upon rule to skip the first Deku Cycle in this challenge since the first Deku cycle runs at increased speed compared to the first Hylian Link cycle.
I had this in the video at some point, but it made the intro drag on too long, so I recorded a shorter explanation after cutting the first but... forgot to actually insert it? Wouldn't be an EonAegis video if there wasn't some massive glaring oversight, I guess! I'm sorry if that confused anyone.
Also, I know Smiffic made a video recently-ish. That video is really good! But I want to clarify - no, he did not do it first on TH-cam either. As far as I can tell, that was @Seahawk0027, 10 years ago. I deliberately did not watch Smiffic's video when it came out as I wanted to route this out myself. Please understand that multiple creators can make the same thing, completely seperate from one another. This happens all the time!
the monkey is burning.
This sounds like an interesting challenge;
I like the idea that Link is like "ffs we must get rid of that moon like RIGHT NOW!", and speedruns the whole game. It feels more elegant to beat everything without warping back to the First Day when you technically don't need to do it.
Legends say the monkey is still being deep fried to this day ;o;
On the day I beat the 3ds version. What are the chances
i'm sorry you had to play the 3DS version (unless you used project restoration)
@knifegaming997I played the 3ds version first and it really wasn't bad if you don't know what you're missing out on. But the original is still better
@knifegaming997 nope. Original hardware with nothing done to it. And I did 100%. It was actually pretty fun.
@knifegaming997 That version isn't that bad.
@knifegaming997 The 3ds version ain't that bad, most of the changes are welcome. It sucks not to be able to freely swim as a zora, but at least the temple and pirate fortress sections are much more easily maneuverable (and it's not like they removed quick swimming, you can still do it, but sadly it uses magic)
The only real bad change I can think of is the ice arrows, and even then they affect a really small portion of the game. For all intents and purposes, the remake is better imo and severely overhated
11:55 the wizrobe shows up 5 times throughout the game. twice in snowhead, once in castle ikana, once in stone tower temple, and one last time in the secret shrine
Interesting twist would be to see how much prep you can do in the deku cycle by taking advantage of sneaking past the guards to get termina field early
The final boss doesn't need arrows, just need the Zora guided blades lol. Impressive as tho mate
in general, majora goes down like a bitch to zora link, especially majora’s wrath because of the barrier basically making you immune to getting grabbed
As soon as this thing posted, I was playing the 3DS version. I got to the final boss when I noticed the video clicked on it and immediately watched it and as soon as you beat the final boss, so did I lol
Great run, my only thought on potential improvement would be to swing by the laundry pool night 1 and get the Bremen mask and then once youve gotten eponas song (or right before, your call lol) go age up somenchickens and get the bunny hood for much more speed as human link. Im pretty sure overall goron roll might be faster but you need magic refills fairly often.
Smiffic did it first sadly.
Here's a challenge: Beat MM in one cycle but you MUST complete the Anju & Kafei sidequest in the same cycle.
Someone else did it first, actually ;)
MM in one cycle with completed Anju & Kafei isn't actually too much of a hassle. Pick up Kafei's Mask before going into Woodfall Temple or right after it depending on how your clock is looking when you're there, and stop by the inn with it before you head out to Epona. You can then meet with Anju at nighttime, at 12:30. From there, you just need to make pitstops at the correct timings, but time isn't as tight anymore by that point as you can see from the video(s) :)
Funny thing, you don't necessarily need the garo mask for entering ikana canyon.
The Gibdo mask also works
I do mention that! But it's kind of a catch-22 since you need the garo mask to get the gibdo mask anyway
You actually don't need to watch Darmani go to the cave. once you get the lens, just warp to mountain village and go to the grave, Darmani will be there without needing to wait. You still need to talk to him before the song of healing will work, so the lens is still needed.
Btw you can buy magic beans from the swamp deku if you don't want to go through the maze
You can't if you've never had beans before! In an earlier attempt, he just told me I didn't know how to use them. You have to get the freebean from the bean seller at least once!
@EonAegis oh dang that sucks lol
@@BruskusChungus it does, but since you have Goron and the Stone Mask (I didn't need to use stealth... >w>) it's over in a flash, really
I first attempted this challenge with the 3DS version, but I'm not sure if its possible. The main reason being that the Inverted Song of Time doesn't triple how much time you have in a cycle anymore, making the beeline from Woodfall to Snowhead back to Milk Road seemingly impossible. It could be possible, but I definitely don't have the skills to pull it off
I don't think I could EVER have the knowledge, patience, or skill to do this challenge. Incredible job Eon! Would a one cycle run be possible for MM3D? It's okay if not I just thought it would be cool to see how different the run for the 3D version would be. You're amazing bro! #Justice4Monkey
I... think it's possible, actually. It's incredibly tight and very different, but I think it might actually work.
@EonAegis if you do decide to try it, I wish you the best of luck ❤️
It was today I realized Maron and Romani have red hair because bowser has red hair
That's the Doyalist explanation.
The Watsonian explanation is that Malon is a Gerudo. Wearing the Gerudo mask to talk to Talon has him comment that you look like his wife.
Fun fact: If we then follow the theory that TP Link is a descendant of OoT Link and Malon, and recognise that all Gerudo women have Hylian fathers, but are seen as full Gerudo in a form of One-Drop Rule: Twilight Princess Link is the next once in a century male Gerudo. Meaning he would be their king.
Majora's Mask is my favorite game & good video. The song If the World Should End by Bruno Mars & Lady Gaga reminds me a lot of Anju & Kafei as the world is ending & they're trying to be together for their last few hours
Great video Eon.
Poor monkey though...
16:20,all the streams before:you wish
Also congrats,it took so long
Obligatory "Smiffic did it first"
It's still an impressive accomplisment though!
Eon has been working on this since way before that guy uploaded lmao
Thank you! :D
Technically, @Seahawk0027 did it first. Smiffic and I just had the same idea in the recent years, and while my attempts graduated from single segment practices to full runs around the time he released his video, I can promise you I've done the work myself. Thank you for understanding :)
@@EonAegis Woah, TH-cam really did not want to show me Seahawk's channel. I searched fairly thoroughly and never found them, but sure enough they did it a whole decade ago.
smiffic has already done it, so it is very much possible, just very difficult
Answer: Yes, but it doesn't make this video any less entertaining and it requires a *lot* of skill.
don't think i didn't notice the dragalia lost music on the outro
Impressive. Most impressive.
It takes one cycle to get the ocarina. Can't be done. What you're attempting is a two cycle win.
Great video. Why not get the stone mask before the pirates fortress though? Wouldn't that make it a lot easier?
@@skimmilk2774 great question! it would've been easier, but I couldn't budget in a red potion for Shiro before then since I had to save my money for a while to get the wallet upgrade for the sword. If you don't go for gilded sword, or route in the silver Rupee from the inn room, you definitely should just grab the stone mask beforehand.
In all honesty, since I effectively cleared in a practice attempt, the route is still a little off. I might improve it one day... For now though, I'm actually looking into the 3DS version!
@EonAegis I'm wondering if it's possible to do all masks in one cycle. That's what had me searching for a video like yours in the first place. But that would probably be like TAS level optimization, especially if you wanted to do it without glitches. This is an awesome video though. Great work!
@@skimmilk2774 Thank you! Due to how certain masks are mutually exclusive, it takes 3 cycles at minimum without glitches. However, in that 3 cycles, it's possible to 100% complete the game as well.
Congrats on the run, very entertaining to watch!
One thing this makes me wonder is if it would be possible to 100% Majora's Mask (that is, get all the masks, bottles, heart pieces, and great fairy rewards) in 3 days, since that would be the theoretical minimum for the Kafei/Anju sidequest splits - one cycle for Blast Mask and All-Night Mask, one for giving the express mail to the mailman, and one for delivering it straight to Mama.
With glitches, you could bring the theoretical minimum to two cycles, since you can use a glitch to keep the express mail on a C-Button after giving it to the mailman, but I don't know if you could do everything else in those two cycles.
EDIT: I meant three cycles, not days. Game can't be 100%ed in three days, obviously. :P
Thank you!
I have been looking into a theoretical minimum. I think three cycles (glitchless) should be more than possible - the hardest thing really will be making enough space on the first run's first 12 hours. On the other hand, you won't have to fit all four dungeon clears into one cycle, so it might actually turn out easier than that. I'll be looking into that, and maybe 2 cycles :o
Edit: I'm 100% certain 2 cycles isn't possible even with the express mail glitch. It's not because of the Express Mail itself but the circumstances around the Kafei quest to begin with. The All-Night's Mask and Couple's Mask are at odds with one another;
You get the couples mask at the final day, final hours, and it must be used in the morning of any of the three days. This would be fine, except the All Night Mask can't be used during the final day as well. These two masks are mutually exclusive to one another, as they are dependent on Sakon, the thief. If Sakon is stopped on night 1, the Kafei quest does not conclude, so no couple's mask. However, if Sakon isn't stopped, the All Night Mask isn't put on sale on the final night. Since both of these require the next cycle, the theoretical minimum stays at 3 (4 if Deku Cycle is counted) even if you were to allow the express mail glitch.
Depends on if you allow for doing things on the Deku cycle.
No, saving the Bomb Shop lady which also allows the purchase of the All Night Mask stops the progress of the Kafei and Anju Side Quest on night 2. You also have to go through the Kafei and Anju Sidequest through day 3 twice to get both a bottle and the Postman's Hat. 100% is at least 4 cycle including Deku.
@@mrsplays9817 Without glitches you can at least get the adults wallet, and with simple glitches you might be able to get two heart pieces.
@@costby1105 They said 'day' but I think they meant 'cycle'
And that they weren't counting the deku cycle
ALL masks, one cycle?
Impossible 😔
@@EonAegis damn ive been brainstorming and just realized that if you save the old lady for the bomb mask, then you can't do the anju kafei quest. actually impossible :(
Have beaten this challenge hardest part is first day by far some skips is jumping up in the swamp skipping the flowers
Short answer no, you can't
long answer if you skip the first cycle you can.
Most runs ignore the Deku Curse cycle
You actually can, there was a february 21st LOTAD where they did that
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What's a LOTAD?
I think it's possible todo the same Thing in 3D, only that the Twinmold Fight would take longer.
I lost a lot of time, so I'm thinking it *could* be possible... but you only get 66% of the time you get in the N64 version since reverse time only slows you down to 50% speed instead of 33% speed.
This mostly makes getting Epona a hassle among other adjustments that'll need to be made. I'm going to try, though.
@@EonAegis not to mention the Change to the Gyjorg Fight. That and the Twinmold Fight always eat up the most Time everytime i played the 3ds Version.
@@EonAegis also i'm wondering if it would give more time playing on the PAL Version?
@@EonAegis I tried to get to the ranch before 6pm on the first day, but when I had entered the first temple and was on my way to get the bow it was already after noon, the nerf to the inverted song of time makes it impossible
You probably should have at least addressed the Deku cycle.
It'd be a harder challenge to find someone interested in a challenge video for this game that *doesn't* already understand that's implied since there's no way around it and it's identical every time
I apologize - I've added a pinned comment to hopefully compensate for this shortcoming.
this is canon
I think Smiffic did this too. But he also did 100% Minimum Cycles. Maybe you should try that?
I've been trying to do this run
idunno ask smific... but im watching this topic again anyways lol
Great video, do you perhaps hail from the great district of Bunschoten-Spakenburg?
No, I hail from a place just a little further west! Also, although I'm from the same country as that great district, I don't currently reside in it.
Thank you for the compliment on the video
I thought I recognized the accent, but I guess my linguistics skillz are somewhat rusty, lol
Has anyone done "how many masks can you get in a single cycle" yet?
Or alternately, what's the least cycles needed to achieve the fierce deity mask?
Nice work
This is two cycles. How else did you get the first mask off?
First! I've known about this hustle of yours for a WHILE, on this particular challenge. So glad to see you finally do it
I did a 3 day perfect run another day. For my rules, basically you need to save all 4 temples, complete (almost) the bomber notebook, get all the fairies, fight the bosses of the waterfall in Ikana and do some side quests to help some of the people (like Kafey and Anju, the postman, help write a music for the zoras, get the bottles and others). All of these exactly after getting the ocarina.
It is massive work, especially in the first part of day 1, but it is fun. It's a "master quest" mode.
Doing all that is quite literally impossible, several entries in the bomber notebook alone are mutually exclusive and can't be done in the same cycle
But you seem to know what you're talking about, please, post your own video proving all that is legit kek
@@Pappingy There is no need to be upset. I fix it my post. It's almost all of the bomber notebook, happy now?
Well, it is still a difficult and challenging run
I tryed doing this but i lost the run sad😢
I DID IT LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
You started in the 2nd cycle...
Most runs ignore the Deku Curse cycle
It isn't possible to beat the game in only one cycle because you start as deku and reset to be human
The MM community considers the one cycle run from the second cycle's start for that reason, although it is also theoretically possible to one cycle with more extensive glitch usage. Zelda 64 is utterly broken by this point though, so I prefer to avoid using things like that in my challenges if it can be avoided.
@EonAegis I think I saw you could do an srm to get goron and transform but im not sure
@@EonAegis i have a challenge for you can you beat mojaras mask without ever using your sword this sounds easy but idk maybe it's difficult but the goal is to 100% the game without ever using the sword just to make the video longer
Hmm
so, its impossible? cause you skipped the day where you are stuck as a Deku.
there is an exploit that lets you skip the first cycle, combined with this route maybe it's possible for a true single cycle
A true first cycle without glitches is impossible. There is too much travel time required, and the first cycle actually runs on much faster time than subsequent cycles. Just compare the speed of the day to night/night to day clock and you can very easily notice this!
Even if an exploit existed to allow you to get out of deku form immediately at 6AM Day 1 and also get the deku mask at the same time since it'd be required to get through deku palace, it'd be impossible to finish Day 1 fast enough on the sped up first cycle.
True 1 cycle is possible by a TAS, but I'm pretty sure it's practically impossible to do as a human.
Typical average TH-cam commenter acting smug when they couldn’t be more confidently incorrect 😂😂
@@NoSpoilers-wb5ww typical average comment commenter, acting like they made some kind of gotcha when they have made little to no valid point or made any sense what so ever.😂😂