Which Sig Grip Module
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- 0:00 Which Sig P320 Grip Module?
4:00 Weight
5:39 Hand Fit
6:03 Magazine Release
8:12 Fitment Features
8:36 Beaver Tail
9:42 Trigger Guard Undercut
10:38 Index Points
12:55 Magwell
14:13 Backstrap Shape
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Excellent!! PLEASE repeat for the P365. This is the exact information I’ve been trying to decide on. Great job!
Very timely. I'm sure that there's a lot of people, who will really appreciate this evaluation. Thank you.
The range portion was tough to do fairly, and might be a bit boring, but we did our best to show the benefits and drawbacks of each for two hand sizes.
My 320 came with the X-Compact Sig module. I replaced it with the Wilson Combat. I have medium hand with longer fingers and the Wilson fits me great. I'm totally happy with the way my P320 fits me now.
Phenomenal! Very well done sir!
I have the Wilson and I changed the takedown lever to a gas pedal fits my hands very nice. I like the metal ones they just aren’t in my budget. Thanks for the video
You did a wonderful job on the content and detail! Really appreciate the time you took to show all the fine little details on each one. I just bought the VTAC and ordered the Wilson for comparison.
Thank you
Recently installed the wilson combat carry 2 for my xcompact rxp, full size grip but dust cover is meant for the sub compact 3.6 in slide, big change for the better. That grip module is a mash up of the walther pdp, 1st gen p320 grip, 1911. I love it!
It is a fantastic video presentation with the requested variety of grips.
Thank you
The WC module mimics a 1911 grip with mostly straight front and back straps, thin and rounded at the front and back, with a gently contour on the sides that is similar to what side panels do. Seeing how 1911's are what most people find comfortable and natural, this makes a lot of sense. Their p365xl grip module makes an even bigger difference for that gun.
Fantastic job showing us the difference. Thank you!
I hope this helps folks find what's right for them
The Wilson Combat grip works great for me. I love it!!! I also included an Align Tactical thumb rest which works also great to control recoil.
Thank you for the review!!!
Thanks for the info! I just got a P250 and need to upgrade my module due to my small hands.
I originally got my P320 with the original factory (not X series) grips, and from there moved onto the WC320 grip module. In my personal experience carrying daily, the more exposed mag release has been a non-issue. I experimented with an extended mag release and that was a bit too much for reliable hand placement, but with the standard mag release length it's fine. One thing I did have to modify about my grip is placing my thumbs so that I didn't interfere with the slide catch, but that was easy enough to address. The Icarus grips look great, a little out of my budget right now but definitely on the board for when I can justify splurging on gun parts again.
I have that same IP frame with a compact slide and I love it. The small amount of added weight feels good in hand and is barely noticeable when carrying. And I’m 5’6”, 130 lbs. polymer grips make my hands sweat like crazy regardless of texturing and I live in FL lol so the IP frame works well and the grip stays solid even when my hands are sweaty. Well worth the price tag imo. Also, my P320 is chambered in .40 so the aluminum frame combined with the thumb rest/gas pedal, it feels so comfortable. It may not be the “best” gun, but it’s the best feeling to me currently. And idc if the finish wears, I’ll just respray it with a matted clear coat. It’s only gonna happen again so I’m not worried about sending it back to get fixed. It’s my carry gun, it’s gonna happen eventually. Oh, and imo, especially with the longer slide, the IP frame helps to offset the top/front heavy nature of the P320.
I have Titanium AXG with my M17, it is nice, and look nice. I would like to try the tungsten infused DH3 module, which suppose to be heavy. but I can not justify getting more grip module for one gun. Great video, thanks
Yep. Preference & modular or not,if something isn’t terrible or causes pain ect. I m leaving it stock I’ve thought plenty about flipping the mag release to the other side for index finger release and will try it eventually. If it’s good, it will be every one most likely. It’s personal & on certain guns the right mag release Extention can be a great inexpensive fix. I did it on a Glock 33 once & was much better,no downsides. Varies gun to gun. A lot of this stuff is putting stuff under a microscope that doesn’t need to be there. All good if ppl are buying,…sell sell sell. Then on to the new & improved. Thx G.
I have tried all of these grip modules except the Icarus Precision ($400 to try one out? nope!). But one you didn't try is the Sig AXG module. It, too, is aluminum and costs about $400, but I was able to try one out at my local range before buying it and found it to be by far the best fitting, in my hand at least. More like the X-series or the Icarus in shape, but the weight just makes it drop perfectly into my grip, especially with the brass LOK grips on it. Give it a try! I think you and your big hands would like it!
I run a rapid force level 3 holster from alien gear for on duty use. I found that drawing with the x grip I had to adjust my grip as I came up to the target. With the Wilson since it’s smaller and contoured I don’t have to adjust. Overall a cleaner draw.
What’s the difference between the Wilson combat compact & x-compact? Any ideas?
I love the X-Compact in general, but went with the Wilson Combat X-Compact and Carry II. I love the Carry 2 as I use full-size mags (17 & 21 round Capacity on my 9mm). Now what to do with the factory SIG & Wilson Combat X-Compact are collecting dust along with my 15-round mags. 🤦♂.
I'll be checking out a 40 S&W X-Change kit sooner than later.
I dont have a p320, but i have tried out my friend's xcarry and it feels good havent tried out any other grip for it tho.
I have tried out the wilson combat grip of the p365x and i do like it better than the regular blockish grip, those corner being rounded off a bit more really helps fit the hand. I am waiting for the Mischief Machine omega grips to try out though.
I have the XFull size grip and I love how it feels in my hand. However, with the high broad walls, it makes it difficult to hit the slide release sometimes. I'd welcome a grip that's a little slimmer towards the top
Grey guns has a awesome grip module
But it abasically is just an X-series with some extra stippling.
So many options... I've got the laser-stippled xcompact grip from Sig. Feels nice, but I'd bet this Wilson grip will be a slight improvement. Thanks for the review! Would have never even considered comparing the icarus grip!
It really does come down to personal preference, fortunately there are some good options out there.
I'll be honest I love the Wilson grip module but the fact that I couldn't use an aluminum magwell makes me use the x-series grip but if Wilson would redesign to have the option of the magwell I would use the Wilson grip hands down
I had a very hard time putting the Wilson Mod on my new Sig p320 compact. When I got the fire control unit out and went to install it in the frame, a large pin fell out of the FCU. I saw where it fell out, so I put it back. But when I went it put the FCU in, the take down lever would not go in all the way.
I bought the sig small to start with then bought the Wilson and never looked back. It felt best but also has the weight set in it. Custom shop fcu/Norsso reptile slide/L2D 3.9 barrel/dps spring kit/509t. In my opinion it’s as flat shooting and same recoil as my shadow system mr920 elite with the ramjet. Was hoping for ramjet for it but they haven’t released any I’m aware of.
Good call...
I bought the P365 Wilson Combat grip(s) black & tan-It just made sense due to shipping etc at the time. I like it much nore than the stock P365. I "Heard" there are Talon" grips for the Wilson Combat Grip modules. They fell good as they are. I might buy one for my extra. I do like the Sig Sauer P365x grip module that I bought seperatly. Maybe I should have waited for Wilson to release a X grip??
Great info video! 👏🏼
I choose the Wilson Combat modular frame over the original factory Sig Sauer P320 M17.
I am pleased with it. It made an improvement in the ergonomics and my grip hold. The original Sig M17 frame is a shortcoming cheap cutting cost mass production decision to sustain an attractive price for the DoD. It worked.
The right frame for the M17 should be the one designed for the X series, but it costs more to get a better grip texture and a slimmer design 😉 So, the military got the low-cost end product.
I went the same route for my M18. I did think the WC grip needed some additional work though. I ended up deepening the trigger undercut, added a second undercut on the trigger guard, as well as serrations to the front of the trigger guard. I also raised the beaver tail as much as could without filing a hole through the plastic. With all of that, the WC grip absolutely makes the M18 a joy to hold and shoot. I also modified the takedown lever to work as a memory pad for my trigger finger and a gas pedal for my support thumb (it’s amazing what you can do with epoxy and silicon carbide).
Well put...
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The Sig factory upgrade module and the LXG can use the same weights as the wilson model.
I just purchased the 320 Compact. After shooting my bosses at the range during training the other day I really noticed a night and day difference between the 320 C and my APXA1. And the Sig just shot so much better for me. His pistol has the standard factory medium grips as well as the one I am purchasing. I may order the medium X Series grip just to try it when I get the pistol, hey its only $69. Overall I just love all of the various grip options. Thank you for the video.
If you do go grip shopping check the pinned comment. We've found some for less than 69
@@GBGuns Thank you I will check into that!
Just ordered it off of PA. Price with shipping was $69. 🤣 Still thank you. I would have paid $69 plus the shipping had I gone the other route. So you still saved me some money and I appreciate that. BTW you now have a new subscribe. I watch your videos all the time and never have punched the button. Sorry. Guess I was just busy watching the videos. Love the info you and your wife put out.
@@thespankdmonkey Thank you, and don't worry, you're not alone in the "often watched, but never subscribed" category. That's the majority of our viewership, but at the same time we see a lot of "why don't you have more subscribers?" comments, lol.
Tried all except the Icarus, and the Wilson combat is my favorite. Waiting on P320 xTEN grip modules.... sig told me they are or will be compatible with the .45 acp models (which I have).
Which feels better x combat or the wilson. I do like how the x combat feels. I would like a bigger size. Any input?
Between the Sig factory and the Wilson Combat I wanted to like the Wilson Combat but I found it too slim for me. It caused me to fight to present the sights on target whereas the factory medium size module allowed me to align the sights upon presentation naturally and has a better overall feel in my opinion. Additionally, the sides of the Wilson's grip appear to be textured but are quite slick with sweaty hands.
It's crazy that you said that because I had the exact same experience with the Wilson combat grip. I could not get a good grip on it between having big hands and them getting sweaty over time
I’m glad I found this… I currently getting things together to build my first sig and gun in general
I had this same problem, and ended up with the WC grip frame, and put the Hogue overmold grip to it. I have wide hands and long fingers, and this combo works well for me...trust me, for like 12$ added on to the WC, you get a much larger grip.
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@@Mgidynastyget the AXG grip frame from Armory Craft; they have brass grips and a steel back-strap that can be added to make a hefty, soft shooting pistol.
Same. I wanted to like the Wilson but the factory module just fit better. Bummer I wasted $60.
to me, WC makes most sense for CCW choice as it has the minimal width across others and high grip too. I have a m17 and took a long way to convert it a compact WC CCW.
I only own and shoot FS P320 ‘s in IPSC and IDPA competition but I’ve tried different modules just to them check out. I primarily compete with a P320 Max , which is the top of the P320 line. I did high speed drills testing rapid fire group size with the TXG , AXG, P80 and Wlison Combat , all mounted with a FS Pro cut slide, Xseries FCU and a R1Pro. The TXG came out on top as expected , next was the P80, the WC and then the AXG . I’m guessing that the Icarus would have a similar recoil impulse to the AXG which is a sharp push to your strong hand palm . The AXG performed much better with Lok brass grip panels The ability to change the grip panels would put the AXG over the Icarus for me .The texture on the WC is pretty good but for pure performance, I don’t run any polymer grips without Talon Granulate tape as none of them , including the TXG have acceptable traction . The stippled grips on the P320 Spectre Comp module are an improvement on the standard TXG ( But I’d still tape them lol )
I can’t carry where I live so I realize that my experience is only relevant to my shooting purposes , grip style and hand size .
The modularity of the P320 platform really allows shooters the most options to easily find the best set up for their requirements.
Nice! The AXG with LOK brass grips came out on top of my testing as well.
@@WaynoJ333 Agee - The brass grips really transform the characteristics of the AXG , specifically when shooting at full speed. Reduces the sharp palm punch of the stock grip to a dull thud and you can hammer away with confidence !
I have the m18 and I was wondering if this grip would make it more concealable? thanks
Hey have you tried the Brouwer M1811 grip module?
I have large size hands but not sausage fingers. Which one do you think would be best?
which one has the smallest "diameter" for small hands? also is there other slim options?
Does the Icarus Precision fit with the p250?
Does the 320 Xcompact come with the medium size grip?
Wilson Combat I use only, I shoot Sig but I automatically change over to the Wilson Combat Grip Module. I can’t get a Grip Module for the Macro yet.
Does the icarus one fit the m18 stuff?
Very interesting. Great demo & perspective. I believe the older P250 will work with these. I have a dear friend that has a 250 and I encouraged to consider the X-Carry or Wilson. You mentioned newer generation magazines. Is it possible his P250 mags will not work properly in these options. Appreciate the great content.
You have to do some minor sanding on the base trim of the p250 mags and they will work in a p320
@@trekfortruth2841 Appreciate the heads up. Didn't know that.
Will the sig x combat fit compact p250 slide
The P320 has been a curious case, in my personal experience. I've always admired the P226 but the way it feels in my hand is atrocious, especially the trigger reach. I feel as if I have to dislocate my index finger and wrap it over my middle finger in order to reach the trigger, also the feel of my distal pad rubbing along the trigger guard as I pull the trigger makes the P226 a total deal breaker, (same is true for the P220, P225, P228, P229, etc).
But, with the P320 the grip feel is beautiful and the trigger reach is excellent. So much better than the P226 ! However, if you compare the two, side-by-side, they share a very similar outline. (SIG definitely went through the effort to make the P320 look like a SIG). The difference in feel cant be overstated, the P320 is very much its own gun.
You didn't show the Wilson in the beaver tail comparison.
I have Icarus, AXG, X, OEM for My P320. I love the Wilson Combat the best and run it without the tungsten weights. Also have Icarus, oem and Wilson Combat for the P365xl and I run with smaller smaller slide and barrel like P365x and again prefer Wilson Combat. And without the weights. I prefer the carry size for the P320 Wilson Combat though. Fits the pinky better and more capacity mags. I don’t like the dropped piece on the magwell with the Wilson Combat compact grip for P320
You left out the best one. Mirzon.
What about it is better than these for you?
@GBGuns The rubberized grip is better than the standard hard plastic stipling and absorbs recoil. The functional beavertail reduces muzzle flip.The high cut of the beavertail and the trigger guard undercut let you get your hand higher on the gun and give you more control. The grip handle is less boxy and fits my hand perfectly. It literally feels like my old SigPro 2340 is going to leave my hand compared to the Mirzon grip. I have two P320s with Mirzon grips, and I can't imagine shooting anything else. I don't know if it is just my hand, particularly, but it feels like the grip was molded to my hand. I absolutely love it. Everyone that I let hold it or shoot love it to. I let one guy hold it, and he bought one that same day.
@@mugsyfields that's why I asked the way I did. We all have different hands and different preferences.
Now to find a store that has them all in one location...... 😜
Could I put my Bill Wilson full size slide on this compact pistol and use 15 round mags? Smaller grip for carry.
Or ICARUS ETC?
Yes, you can swap just about any grip and slide, the only thing to consider is how long the dust cover is.
thanks....For the. Video. Will any of these grips work with my first gen p320 subcompact...? Can I use the sub compact slide? New longer mags are needed... Correct?
You will definitely need longer magazines, I'm not sure about the slide fitting, check witht he manufacturers of the module you're interested in, they may have subcompact-specific grips.
Sub compact slide is 3.6 inches (same length as X Compact ones) so any grip module that is for 3.6 inch barrels/slides should work for your FCU. Maybe not if u have it chambered in .45 tho not sure about that.
I think that people hear "Wilson Combat" and instantly jump on it for the name alone. I've heard that a lot with 1911 parts, frames, and even the model itself. Not everybody, but I do know THOSE guys! I'm not sure about the P320 models, but I've been window shopping for new duds on my P365, and the amount of choices (between the P365 and the P320) is slowly rising to a level of aftermarket support that Glock has held the crown for for a long time.
I have an X-Carry frame and I bought a Wilson frame. My hands are big and I went back to the X-Carry because of the size difference. Not sue I want to spend the $ on a Icarus.
Wilson Combat is great as I have 2 of them. I feel some are very over priced.
Do you know if the sig small grip is similar to the Wilson grip size?
I do not know
Now just need to add MIRZON & BROUWER for Polymer grips and KMTACTICAL & SIG AXG for metal grips!
The Brouwer grips seem a lot like the Wilson grips except $20 more expensive, doesn't come with mag release installed, costs extra for a magwell, and charges $100 extra for some skateboard grip texture.
The Wilson Combat module has a bigger Hand Grip then all of them.
Can you review the Brouwer M1811 grip module?
I had never heard of them.
1911 grip module.. Damn nice too@@GBGuns
I just got the California M18 P320 and I wanted to change out the grip for the WC. I went to the website and saw the carry and combat version and now I'm not sure which one to get. Someone told me that I would have to get the carry being that the clips that come with the California will stick out of the combat grip. I'm not sure if that's true but if someone can confirm I'd appreciate it.
Currently using the WC with tungsten rods and a Hogue overmold grip. Contemplating spending the money on the Armory Craft AXG aluminum grip frame with brass grips and steel back-strap. I've shot the Scorpion, but not the set up described above, and believe it would be ideal.
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What size modules are those?
The two Sig branded grips are Mediums. The Wilson grip only comes in one size, and it's somewhere between a Medium and a Small. No idea on the Icarus because it's $400.
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So why didn't you weigh the original ? They are on the street as well...
The "original" model we have is for a subcompact and so not a fair comparison against those made for a compact.
@@GBGuns okay I guess that is a fair reply.
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Icarus
I like the thinness and magwell of the Wilson. All the others are too fat.
None of the above. Brouwers M1811 grip.
Not sure where this guy shops but there are zero frames out there for $9 or even $40. Most are $67 and up
How are you not sure where you shop?
@@GBGuns No I’m sure where I shop. And the multiple places I looked for frames for the 320 platform, still haven’t seen a $9 frame. So if you come across one of those unicorns without a safety let me know
We can't link to such places here on TH-cam (that's why we have GBGunsDepot.com), but check the clearing houses, that's where I found mine. Dirt cheap places where manufacturers off load items they're fazing out or that didn't sell well.
Great tip! Appreciate it greatly
The size of your hand is proportional to your p-------istol
The Icarus precision is way overpriced
Machining a block of aluminum is a lot more expensive to do than squirting plastic into a mold.
So this gun has to be "tamed"?... I think a better title would be.. "how to spend twice or more the money", to tame a pistol that doesn't need it.
Give me a break. 🤣🤣
No it certainly doesn't, and you don't "need" a steak knife to cut steak, but if something can be easier and more comfortable why not?
Anybody that wants the Icarus precision style gas pedal go to tactical development and they make gas pedals for all of the p365 models for all of the frames that you're looking at