Ejection 048 - David Ross Ejected After Joey Votto BB, Patrick Wisdom Hit by Pitch in Cincinnati
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ค. 2022
- HP Umpire Dan Merzel ejected Cubs manager David Ross for arguing a lack of umpire conference, warnings, or ejections following Reds pitcher Hunter Strickland's 9th inning HBP of Chicago's Wisdom. Report: www.closecallsports.com/2022/...
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Hunter Strickland on the mound after Joey Votto takes offense to nearly getting hit? Yeah, that's not a potential problem.
Hunter strickland still beaning people?
I think Votto flips the bat like that every time he walks
Yea there’s a video of “that’s ball four to votto” and he flips the bat on at least the majority of them in a similar manner
I am not a Votto fan, but to say he "put on a show"? That's insane.
From a cubs fan you're correct
How could you not like Votto though
Yeah it’s customary to moonwalk your ass to first while exchanging Canadian smack with the pitcher.
That bat flip wasn’t odd, that is quite typical after a walk to send the bat to the dugout. I don’t think Vatto was causing an issue until the pitcher started yelling at him
Completely agree!!! He does that on most of his walks at home since that is were his dugout is…he has done it for years like that
@@grantg610 He caused a issue by saying something before the pitcher said he did
@@63076topher except the video shows that isn’t true. The pitcher yelled at him to “walk mother f*****, then votto responded
boog sciambi is terrible I almost feel bad for cubs fans
@@63076topher Once again, Votto put his head down and trotted to 1st base. Quit making shit up.
Votto flips the bat like that when he walks. Have they not played against him for 15 years now? Lmao
No reason to swear at people when you walk
@@63076topher No reason to swear at people when you walk THEM. There, fixed it for you, since the pitcher is the only one who said anything.
@@bazoballislife The PITCHER said that is a bad word why would he say THAT IS A BAD WORD if he was the one that swore.
@@63076topher The pitcher called Votto a motherfucker. Guess it's hard to see that when you're blind.
Can we just acknowledge the comedic genius of the Reds’ audio room playing “Let It Go” while Ross was out arguing?
Meh, pretty minor league and unoriginal imo
you must be a very simple person
I'm gonna have to add "Let It Go" to my baseball music lineup...
Def Leppard. 🎸
Patrick Wisdom...much respect. A 98 mph off of the forearm is, to be subtle, miserable!
No doubt! Took it like a champ. That had to sting! 💪
usually 98 mph pitches hurt so much it felt like taking a big chunk of a rock into your arm
Let's be honest, that crew was 3s and 4s because it's the Cubs and Reds. If teams with a contending shot were playing I'm sure some changes would have been made.
3s and 4s worked the Toronto/NYY game too, and the Yanks are one of the hottest teams in the league. And it’s only late May; how do you know both the Cubs and Reds aren’t contending teams? (Before you answer, note that I said “both”.)
Knowing MLB, if the teams were contenders Angel Hernandez would have been placed on the crew.
This is the same situation in the Toronto/NYY game where the crew ran 3 Jays except the complete opposite actions of the Umpire crew.
It's almost as if they learned from the mistakes of that TOR/NYY game... ;)
@@fnstyle That'd require umpires being aware of mistakes. I realize I can't say that in this channel, but thumbsdown me all you want...
@@sfan2767 Jeez you guys just aren't ever satisfied huh?
@@sfan2767 It's really unfair of you to ignore the fact that these guys are supervised constantly, get feedback all the time from their bosses and see what's happening in other games. I get that people don't like referees, but let's be real!
Joey votto walked.
Votto just tossed the bat... If you're gunna be pissed at that after a 4 pitch walk, go have a seat. That's on you. The fact that the Cubs, and their broadcast, both don't see the situational awareness of the game, and also bring in complete bias about Votto when he did nothing wrong, is laughable.
Jomboy had it right - first pitch comes up at the head, that's gonna get a person pissed. And Votto (whether you agree or disagree) said Wick isn't on Votto's level AND pointed out he didn't say anything on the bat flip. I have no problem with Votto's reaction.
What type of show?
Strickland has a long history of a short fuse
I saw a few bits and pieces of this ejection 😂
I like when Cubs Reds hauling ass each other 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
did you say "votto was the first player hit in the game"? was he hit?
It's the Reds. Don't think they are not stupid enough to bring the tying run to the plate in the 9th.
What a joke comment by the cubs announcer about votto…idk if Strickland decided to do it on purpose but votto did what he does on almost every home walk (the “bat flip”) and then Ross after the game to say votto walked towards wick when he walked to first and that clearly didn’t happen is a bad look as well
the term "Bad Look" seems to follow Joey Votto everywhere he goes
I'm going to assume the walking towards the pitcher comment is talking about how he takes the walk then starts leading off the bag towards the pitcher while play is still stopped, but we don't get a good look of that here
@@RaVexTacozz He did that AFTER the pitcher mouthed off. All Votto says back to him is "I didn't say anything".
Does the vid title say Votto got hit? ** edit - the guys and gals at CCS added the BB. Atta kids! **
Sure reads that way.
It’s unclear, but he only got buzzed; he’d walk later in the AB and flipped his bat while barking at Wick the whole time walking to first.
@@odarquehunnett200 only because Wick said something first but i guess you missed that part.
@@cinci4life116 Noap, didn’t miss that; came after the bat flip.
Very well put!!!👉💯👈💜💜💜
Classic hunter strickland
Someone messed up here, @CloseCallSports
Not a Reds fan - but it looked to me like Votto just put his head down and was jogging to 1st base after taking ball 4. He only looked up when the Cubs' pitcher started talking to him.
That's strange indeed... I remember I also saw Manny Gonzales with this crew. And Dan Merzel is a call-up, right?
I think my favorite part of this whole thing, is the DJ playing "Let It Go", knowing full well that if it was the other way around and David Bell came out to argue what Ross did and got ejected, the DJ and fans wouldn't be telling Bell to "Let It Go".
Can't wait to see Jomboy do this!
Dang votto owned rowan wick when they were fighting Votto definitely owned wick in trash talking
It’s pretty cool how you explain some of the intricacies of the officiating. Thanks
Votto wasn’t hit by anything what are you talking about?
Where does it say anything about Votto and a HBP chief? It clearly says in the description Votto BB, not “Votto HBP.” Says Wisdom HBP.
@@gregthegroove Lindsey said that Votto was hit at the beginning of the game
@@gregthegroove it was corrected by the time you saw this. Wasn’t initially
Well David Ross learned from the best Bobby Cox…. lol
I would’ve liked to see the plate umpire be the one to argue with Ross since he was the one who threw him out. It is a bad look when other umpire comes charging in full speed and starts going at the manager when he wasn’t even involved. Only time you need to intervene is if ejecting umpire is being surrounded outnumbered with multiple team members yelling (which rarely happens anymore) or if the umpire is being physically attacked. Other than that, let the ejecting umpire handle it on his own.
Home plate umpire isn't the crew chief. The chief comes in because they are the chief and the situation can go from nothing to barn-burner is an instant.
Well it doesn’t matter if he isn’t the crew chief. It was his call. When I started umpiring we were trained to defend our calls and handle the managers on our own. The ejecting umpire doesn’t need to be bailed out regardless if he isn’t crew chief. If he is brave enough to quick hook manager he can handle the argument. Besides, it’s not like this umpire doesn’t have experience. He spent years in minors where players and managers are even crazier than this. Btw this situation got crazier when the other umpire intervened so your barn burner theory doesn’t apply. Only time other umpire needs to intervene is when ejecting umpire is being outnumbered with team members arguing or if he is physically attacked.
@@DJTexan Good point. How "you were trained when you started umpiring" in little league is super relevant to professional baseball. Perhaps MLB should hire you to set them straight .
@@bobloblaw1180 Yeah perhaps they should Mr. Charles in Charge. Obviously you have better experience right? I’ve worked in professional baseball and have gone to pro school multiple times. The mechanics they teach now for ejections are terrible compared to what they used to be. It makes umpires look incompetent and sensitive when they can’t handle their own arguments.
@@DJTexan Thanks for noticing my silly profile picture. I'm glad you like it. If you've ever sniffed professional baseball you know in the big leagues, the manager doesn't get to "have his money's worth" with the AAA guy. It's been that way for 100 years. And if you've really been to pro school you know that pro school is verrrry different from how umpiring in professional baseball actually works, much less MLB.
There should of been warnings after the Cubs batter was hit. That way the umps are covered in the way they acknowledge in seeing a potential problem
that's not the umpire's fault its MLB fault for the stupid idea getting umpire together for hit by pitch
Love the geek speak at the end that translates to this crew is garbage
Y'all are over thinking it. Period.
What’s even the big the deal here? Votto took his base and the cubs pitcher cried about, and then a cub got hit. Whatever let’s go Bucs
He swore at the pitcher THAT IS a big deal
Clearly you’ve been hit a few times in the forearm with a baseball moving 98mph. It was escalatory and intentional. Crew didn’t even have the balls to issue warnings.
@@63076topher It was the other way around.
Votto put on a show? RIP baseball. its 2022, grow up
These managers need to stop trying to be Billy Martin. The only thing they should say is, “Can you please give me a rule interpretation in that?” Or if he wanted to ask why they didn’t confer, he could have used the same tone as he did after the game. They just look like fools and are an embarrassment to the game.
Situation be damned, Strickland probably is considering hitting a batter whenever he's in the game, since he's just that kind of guy.
Facts.
Hunter Strickland is a hothead. He deliberately hit Bryce Harper because he was holding a grudge. Harper hit a bomb off of him and he never forgot it. He should concentrate on improving his pitching instead of seeking revenge. Ross needs to chill before he ends up on a gurney heading to the emergency room.
You pointed out how the house dj was playing Let It Go and Hit The Road Jack. I'm curious, can't that be a factor in cases of adding fuel to the fire? Players can get ejected for being confrontational, or even passive-aggeressive sometimes, is that not the same thing?
This happens at every park in every sport .
Yeah, I heard that as well; that’s his job to get the crowd into the game. The Cub fan and former DJ in me ain’t mad about that at all.
Ross is just mad that his team is terrible 🤣
And then how about the reds? You should be mad.
Votto didn't even need to take his bat up to the plate as Wisdom was afraid to pitch to him.
Hate to break it to you but... Wisdom ISN'T a pitcher. He was the one Strickland hit.
Votto flipped his bat because he was upset over the first pitch that nearly beaned him in the shoulder. He never said anything bad to the pitcher also. He was just unhappy with the first pitch that nearly beaned him.
So votto flips his bat like that on most of his walks at home for years now…maybe he put a little extra on it but it looked very similar to most of his walks at home…after I read it I thought it would be a real bat flip not that
He must have said something or they would not have gotten upset
Chris Humble. Who knows. All I can say is never mess with Joey Votto. Later on, Votto, who wasn’t in a baseball mood according to himself, paid condolences to families who lost their loved ones from the school shooting that occurred this past Tuesday.
so the umps had no real crew chief so there was no ump discussion what to do..and players ran their..I read where the plate ump told them enough just play..
Umps blew it.
Wait a minute how TF did votto hit a triple???? Hes slow as hell
Their Umps It is their jobs to know the rules. It's not like their truck drivers or house painters where you have to have some skill.
Baseball has become a me, myself, and I game. A player can't even throw his bat down now a days without someone taking offence. Seems like every player has a chip on his shoulder. Wants his fifteen minutes of fame one way or another.
Oh come on. The one Cubs game that I accidentally fall asleep and sleep through is the one with all the action.
as a reds fan I said same thing
Don't worry, I'm sure there's going to be tons of fireworks today.
hmm Joey Votto got hit by a pitch huh....
The provinces are only 4,000 km apart. 😊
It’s like the umps where scared to get involved. Maybe the front office is finally sending them a message get it together however don’t do nothing dude.
Nah it's just situational awareness, that HBP brought the tying run to the plate.
@@KWally ya after seeing Jomboy’s video on it your bang on.
that pitch had a bunch of tailing movement. Mix that with the fact you are bringing the tying run to the plate... Highly doubtful it's intentional... could it be? People do crazy things so it always could be. But I highly doubt it... Hell Ross, he did you a favor.. he gave your guy a free base when he could least afford it and when it's advantageous to you... smile and hope your next hitters make use of it...
Look at the catchers reaction, that was intentional lol.
It looked like a two seamer that ran a little to much inside. Can’t say if it was intentional or not but I, personally, wouldn’t bring the tying run up to the plate in todays feast or famine league. It’s playing with fire.
@@certifiedfnhater4038 lol…it’s the Reds who literally have NO SHOT. It’s not like they are highly concerned about falling out of contention because they hit a batter to make a point in late May. That was as intentional as it gets.
@@mistervines1520 can you prove it was intentional?
@@certifiedfnhater4038 No and I don’t care to “prove” anything to you. I fully believe it was intentional but I’m not taking anyone to court over it. Your point about “playing with fire” by putting the tying run on was silly to me because the Reds are in dead last in the division and have the worst record in all of baseball. I really don’t think putting the tying run on is much of a deterrent from the Reds’ point of view and especially for someone like Strickland. Due to these factors, I decided to respond to your comment, with my own comment, in the comments section…on TH-cam. It’s pretty simple bro, no need to go into a heavy legal discourse.
Tonight’s game is going to be a good one. If you like retaliation and bad judgement. The umps should just warn both benches before the game even starts.
The game is actually a morning/early afternoon one.
Add in that both pitchers are hard throwers, and either could get hit hard if they leave the ball up around the waist, and it could get ugly fast.
The reds are winning 11 -5 going into the 6th inning. Luckily it’s in a rain delay.
Jim Ross should be happy he has another runner on.
Jim Ross 😂
Why was Wick so upset about Votto, I don't get it.
Idina Menzel makes a cameo appearance. XD
One of the reds is going to get drilled tonight and unfortunately it’s going to be bc of the lack of action by the umpires in this one
…ya THINK? Hunter Greene is a VERY hard thrower; Justin Steele can run it up there too. They’re also both youngsters with control issues. If someone DOESN’T get hit, I’ll be insanely (and pleasantly) surprised.
@@odarquehunnett200 maybe they’ll both accidentally throw strikes 🤣
The game is actually a morning/early afternoon one.
@Don1103 lol why? Only the ones dumb enough to think we were some World Series contenders 🤣 you actually care about what uneducated fans think?
Our ass is not in the jackpot!
i’d like to see Jomboy Media jump into this vid so he can read lips from what Votto & Wick said to each other and David Ross getting ejected
Doesn't take a Jomboy to read those lips :)
@@MichaelKolesarKoleslaw that could be true tho
Ross must of personally insulted umpire. He threw him out very fast. If Ross didn’t insult him then the umpire is just soft and sensitive.
@@DJTexan
I believe it was because he is arguing a pitched ball.
Even a HBP call and the non call after (ejection) is arguing a pitched ball.
I believe that is why the heave ho came quickly
@@snapmalloy5556 no that is not right. In many other situations managers argue hit by pitches and don’t get thrown out. Only time anyone should be thrown out quickly is if they leave their position(dugout) to argue balls/strikes. Hit by pitch is not a strike zone argument.
Cubs 1000% percent wrong on this one. Votto didn't do a damned thing. (I'm not a fan of either team.)
The Cubs didn't say anything so how are they wrong? Ross simply said they should get together and talk about whether or not it was intentional. Strickland is known for throwing at people. To say they are wrong for thinking that it could be intentional? Dumb
Ross is a bum! How in the heck did the Cubs ever sign him on as a manager, let alone an extension. Give him his walking papers.
This is just my Opinion but that was a quick hook. Let the Manager blow off some steam first.
Need to just replace all umps I’m so sick of their incompetence .
Maybe they have too many chiefs.
JOMBOY!!!!!!! I need the lips!
Reason or not aside, what amazes me is to see the umpires barking back at managers and players. They heat things up instead of cooling things down
Plate ump didn't do that. It was the partner that came in a pretty much looked like he was just throwing it back at Ross, knowing full well Ross was just crying about nothing. Hell, even in the interview after the game Ross said that Votto "stepped towards the pitcher". Yeah, after the pitcher mouthed off to Votto.
David Ross acts like he never played the game. What's his beef exactly? The tying run comes to the plate! You need that base runner. Your pitcher started this nonsense, by going high and in to Votto. Votto didn't flip the bat! It was a walk! You flip the bat after a home run. Not a walk.
Man, I long for the days when players flipped the bats and did other antics... and no one got offended or miffed. Pro sports are a freakin joke nowadays.
Joey Votto Is a big baby. He thinks he’s something special and he’s not
This is so childish 🙄
Over a flipped bat off a walk 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right, just ridiculous
The best solution is to hire the temp as umpires. That would solve the problem of umpires on vacation.
Seems like a pretty big over reaction from Votto just throwing his bat away...
Over reaction from Votto???
He called him a Mother F.....!
So... how so dude!
@@covem777 Nah, I’m saying the other team overreacted.
@@Justin-Trammell ahh, gotchya, yes, I agree
only 3's or 4's would that be because both teams are horrible?
FTX patch on the umpire 😢
What ever happened to managers and coaches wearing a full uniform? There was at one time a rule that required it. Oh and Ross is a crybaby and a lousy manager.
Yeah. All sports should do that coach wearing the uniform thing. It’s not weird at all
New sub! Liked 😀🚪😛😊
…OK, so Ross has a point with the umpires not conversing over the degree of intent in this scenario, and as long as I’ve watched the game of baseball, I read the umpires’ names like, “Who TF are these people? How is someone a crew chief whose name I’ve rarely seen work a game before?” MY problem with this is, Wednesday night’s game was Game 3 of 4 in this series…I know they worked last night, but I’m unsure if they had Game 1…Both managers KNOW this crew and are aware that the crew chief isn’t a 1 or 2, so if an issue like this arose (and it did), why is Ross so surprised/incensed at how they handled this? Who DOESN’T know Hunter Strickland has had blowups with players who can turn around his fastball if he doesn’t spot it with consistency? Who DOESN’T know he’s a veteran goon who protects his teammates (in this case, Joey Votto who, let’s not forget, drove in three of the four runs they scored)? Rowan Wick didn’t throw with intent; the deficit was two late in the game and he didn’t wanna put anyone on base to give his team a chance to win next time up. Bottom line: If the umpires at least convened before the decision was made to toss Ross after Wisdom was hit, he wouldn’t have had an issue. They didn’t, he was…and today, with two hard throwing starters (Greene more than Steele), and an overcast mid-70s day in the air, and this same crew in place, this one’s gonna get madd ugly quickly if some towers get buzzed often.
Man, I’m so glad to see JOEY BARKING AT THAT ISH …. show fight reds!!!!!!!!
Cubs...100 years of excuses.
Lady we don't want to hear your mouth let the guys behind the booth talk.
Come on, youre not gonna put tying run at plate in ninth, you should know better Rossy
If they’re gonna do that shit where they come together and get too involved then be consistent and do it on this obviously intentional HBP. Or just be smart and go back to not getting involved
I couldn't see anything. It's all obscured by awful logos.
Cub announcers, who is pulling this shit...lol
🙃 Flips (?)
they clearly threw at wisdom coz they didnt like wick moving votto off the plate so u put a guy on in 9th up by two wish the cubs would of come back and rub their nose in it
Why are major leaguers such babies?
What a bunch of cry baby’s
Are these cubs broadcasters, have they been around long?. Have they ever seen another game with votto against any team. He literally throws his bat like that every time he's walked. And for good reason. Once again the cubs are acting like children, with David Ross being the biggest child of all. As a veteran catcher, he knew it wasn't a big deal, just wanted to blurt out nonsense for 5 minutes. Also, the whole entire dynamic changed when happ missed that ball trying to style out. Thats when the childsplay began.
An easy fix. An obvious plunk of a batter, gets the pitcher ejected. The pitcher is responsible for the ball.
But then you have guys like Contrares that are practically and sometimes truly hanging over the plate, it becomes a strategy to get a good pitcher thrown.
Ross, over rated coach, over rated commentator, over rated catcher.
Baseball..throw a dam punch,the arguments are stupid..
Cubs pitcher started the whole thing over nothing. The pitcher was scared to throw to Votto so he pitched around him and walked him. Then proceeds to be a child about a guy throwing his bat to the side. That’s what got you guy hit. Your punk kid poor sport pitcher acting like a child.
lol This whole thing was ghey I wish I never watched it.
Cubs and Ross are joke
F Votto!
votto did nothing wrong. you look at the racist tim anderson on the white sucks after he hits a home run standing there looking at it ,is more of show off then this. cubs suck and ross is done as far as a manager goes.
Oh Tim Anderson is racist huh? I am white and don't believe Anderson is a racist now Donaldson on the other hand is a different story. Now to Votto and his bat flip. He didn't flip the bat to show off he did it as a "thats what I thought b****"disrespectful way. No need for Votto to disrespect him like that. Ross knows good and well Votto went back in that dugout and told his team they better hit someone next inning.
@@shawnallen7078 Tim Anderson got suspended for calling someone the n-word, something CCS failed to acknowledge in its rant video against Josh Donaldson. Won't disagree that Donaldson deserved to get suspended for his actions last week, though.
@@priceright8963 did he really deserve it though. Has donaldson ever got suspended for other remarks he’s made in the past? Getting on others skin isn’t a targetted action based on donaldson’s history which is willingness to do small trash talk to any one on the opposing team.
I wish people would know the whole story, Donaldson said him and Tim Anderson joke about him being called Jackie Robinson back in Atlanta. So after the scuffle at third base he was trying to be friendly with him and he took offense to it oh, because of course he did. And people don't know the whole story and then judge