The second you see your kid drive recklessly and go over 150, that should be an automatic loss of driving privileges. They can just Uber or take the bus if they want to get somewhere.
His friend knew too and he still got in the car. He got in the car with him because he had fun being a passenger. He should be tried oh wait he can’t. Stupid is as stupid does.
@@wubbied4575 play stupid games win, stupid prizes…… I hear you on a common sense level, but I don’t think the court system would accept that. It might potentially have bearing on a civil suit
And the victim got in there too, knowing the driver’s driving attitude. Sorry, sounds victim blaming but he knew, this wasn’t their first time together in the car.
I understand their pain, and I do think that the parent should have done more, but their son was 18. I find it hard to believe that if this was his friend, he didn’t also know that the friend had a speeding problem and yet still got in the car instead of calling his parents to come pick him up. I mean, that’s their whole logic, right? Prior knowledge. Why can’t it apply to their own child who was legally an adult?
When I was a kid, we knew which one of our friends were the idiot drivers. We did not get in the car with them for a reason. Your son is responsible also. The mother is obviously useless
Absolutely 100 percent agree with you! The passenger was 18 a legal adult. He chose to ride with him.. but now his mama only gonna blame tye driver and his mother?? People beware!!!
If a person is under 18, mother should be charged as should driver and no mention of cop pulling or attempting to pull over negligence on police force response as well.
So sorry for their loss. Yes, the mom knew about the problem. But sorry to say, the victim also knew about it too. And it wasn’t their first time together in the car.
I can understand the parents being angry over the mother being aware of her son’s reckless driving however, seeking to charge her when their son made the choice to ride along and be that kids friend was a poor choice he made. I’m not blaming the victim but there is an accountability to recognize there too. One bad decision can cost a life. 😢
@@FrankYammy Nothing about this is okay, but the mother should not be charged for the actions of her abusive son (22 law enforcement visits to the home for incidents of domestic violence)
My parents would have killed me if I got the speeding ticket for going over 100mph Also, my dad clocked a teenager and his 19 year old passenger (already a ticket-able offense where I'm at) going 81 in a 35. When the kids parents arrived, the dad snatched the license away. That's what should have been done here.
@@SavageMinnow So you want it to be illegal for people to speed excessively and you want this kids parents to be charged for what they did but you don’t want any law enforcement to actually make that happen? Makes no sense. You can’t have laws with no way to enforce them.
That doesn’t mean he knew he was going to go speed around… The kid obviously had a problem, and the kid who died might not have even known he was going to speed that night… it might have been out of the blue adrenaline that made him speed. Way to go for victim blaming though. Keep that same mind set if one of your loved ones dies by the hand of someone else… Mor0n.
So the 18 year old had no clue the driver drives this way?? The driver must have bragged about how fast he drives before the 18 year old went in the front seat
Knew so many parents like this back when I was high school. I would get super hammered at 15-16 years old and people like them would hold drinking parties for us, they were friends towards the kids, not parents. Looking back at it, so irresponsible.
Same here , my best friends house was basically the party house where everyone would stay the night there and get trashed and his mom would be the only buying all The cases of beer for us 😂 I basically lived at that house thru high school
My friends parents would rather us drink at their house and have somewhere safe to sleep than drink at a bar, club, or random persons house. If young people wanna drink, they’re gonna drink regardless so might as well be there and supervised.
its not the parents fault their son decided to speed, instead look towards wondering why someone would get in the car with someone who they know has a speeding problem
@@MeganKoumoridude if I knew my friend speeds at 155 mph I am not getting in his car it is common sense, don't surround urself around dangerous people and be surprised u got hurt
Being freshmen in college, the dead kid may not have known the driver's bad driving record. The driver was still 17, so this was likely early their freshman year.
The guy is an adult. He chose to get in the car knowing his driving record. The mother was not in the car nor told the kid to drive like that. She is not at fault. You can’t punish the parents for the child’s crime and vice versa
they can charge the mom all they want, but she could only do so much to stop her on from driving. Her son made that decision, he made a conscious decision to drive that fast. He could of still took the keys, stolen another car and still drive. It is his fault
@@vyxairotciv4333 Such a slippery slope. People have personal responsibility. Charing parents for their adult children’s choices is a bad still to start doing.
The parents were divorced and dad passed away after. The son would hit the mom and she had called the police on him in the past, she was probably terrified of what he would do if she hid the car keys or removed any of his privileges. Terrible situation all around.
"She could only do so much to stop from driving" Right...and she GAVE HIM A CAR. "Her son made that decision". True. And she made the decision to give keys KNOWING he drives like this.
You think instead of taking the keys, and grounding him is necessarily a good idea? Especially he a teenager including histories of speeding violations?
That kid who was the passenger was probably so scared 😱 rip. At first I thought both driver & passenger died & so that's why the parent's of the deceased wanted the orher parents to be punished but if the driver's alive then he should be the one charged for murder.
The driver was 17, the passenger that was killed was 18. But then the passenger was legally an adult, probably knew how his friend drove and got in the car anyway. Poor choices by all involved.
@@jamesphillips9911 yeah that’s what everyone saying but that’s about the end of it. There’s nothing more she could do about it evidence that was presented. She knew he went over the speed limit so she figured he just get arrested. There was nothing that indicated he would go as fast as he did. She can’t take his stuff away because he’s an adult. He can just leave when he wants.
@@ffjsb there is nothing that would tell her he would go and do something like this. She knew he would speed, but not to this extent like I said to the other person she probably figured he was going to get arrested for speeding and then that would be the end of it. the type of mentality you’re using is not very healthy. It is completely his fault.
Was he forced to get in the car?! Always blame the other one.Did you take your parents responsibilities and tell your kid not to get in cars with bad drivers?!
How was the passenger suppose to know that the driver was going to do that? Who knows maybe the passenger asked to slow, stop or to get out. Drivers mom enabled his behavior and recklessness.
@@laames1599I can guarantee the passenger knew how his friend drove and got in the car anyway. I speak from experience, my friends got in my car all the time knowing how I drove, some even encouraged it.
@@moonshoes11 because he’s an adult and makes his own choices. This is all about about trying to get money. The kid is is a grown adult and chose to get in the car.
@@itisimichael7485 the government supplies money to families. They do drugs and die . So is that the governments fault. No . The person driving . Period. Does it suck yes . I taught my daughters to pivot their head on a swivel to avoid idiot drivers at all costs
Exactly. Why not arrest the DMV worker who gave him the license, her manager... oh also the governor since he eventually is the last manager in that chain.
@@itisimichael7485why should we just got to the mother you should go out to the grandparents The mother's mother for having the mother also I believe we should go after the mother's mother Even if she's in the ground she still responsible for this action and then the father yes the father's father Don't forget his family members also his uncle don't forget the uncles the grandchildren the cousins can't forget about the cousins
This was freshman year of college. Likely very early in the freshman year as driver was still 17. Dead kid may not have known him well to know about his bad driving
If the driver's mother had knowledge of her 17 year old son driving THAT recklessly then she should have taken that car away PERIOD - As a parent of two teen aged boys in my house, one of them being a new driver, he should never have been given access to a car that fast in the first place.
This story is really quite disturbing. Whether they get criminal accountability - and I’m thinking they may - there’s certainly enormous civil liability.
I understand the pov of the victim's parents, but their kid chose to ride with this person, so...But parents really need to be firm with their kids. His mom should have taken the car away.
The guy who murdered Dimebag Darrell did so with the gun that was given to him by his mother as a gift after she knew he was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. Yet she took no accountability and was held to none.
"Imagine if every parent got locked up when their child did something wrong." I imagine people would raise their kids better and the US wouldn't be a crime-filled cesspool.
The obvious flaw in your 'logic' is that the mother KNEW he was a dangerous driver and still decided to let him drive HER car. Did the person at the dmv KNOW he was a dangerous driver BEFORE they decided to give him the license?
I understand the parents outrage but that boy is 17 years old in college. He is a grown man and mama can't control his actions. We don't know who the car's name was in or who purchased the car. We need more info to make a clear judgment but regardless the young man needs to be charged with manslaughter due to reckless driving not the parents. Not much you can do to control your kids at 17
All you kids under the age of 25 need to stop compensating for trying to be cool in a car filled with your friends. That just means you’re mind is still under the age of those you admired to be like.
@@John-Smith02I severly doibt he was always doing it, he would have been caught. More likely he did it at night with his friends. Doubt he speeded when his mother was with him. She probably heard from others or he was caufht once or twice before. But i doubt he did this every time he was in a car. There is no way he wouldnt have been caught nunerous times and have everything taken off him. The mother had a speeding app on her phone ...most parents dont have that. She obviously was tryna help him not to speed. The young guy who gotbin the car likely got in knowing the speed they would be going at. Young guys love to gather up at night and speed and do those circles on the road late at night ...all over the world.
@@jamiemohan2049 the thing is this, she KNEW he sped in excess of 100mph. Whether it's 1 time or 100 times, something that extreme deserves the keys taken away and trying to get him arrested for reckless driving. At the VERY LEAST she should have taken the keys away. If she didn't, she's 100% guilty for gross negligence/culpable negligence.
Realistically, this will most likely come down to insurance coverage. If the speeding driver was under his parents' insurance, then the parents' (mother) could be held financially liable at the very least.
Its exactly like the school shooter, his parents were charged because they provided the weapon that was used to kill people . This mother also provided the weapon (the car) with which he killed somebody
I believe the victim's parents also should be charged from neglect they didn't pay any attention to their kid or the fact that he got into a car with someone who likes to speed to me that is neglect they didn't take their time out to do any research or pay attention anything
@@288theabe at 17 tho plus At what point does personal responsibility factor into the equation? he was 19 and got in that car to drive fast with his friend he knew what the risks were he took them on. he's way more responsible for his own death then a 3rd party.
She knew her son was a reckless driver putting everyone on the road in danger, yet she didn't lock away the keys and continued providing a car. That makes her an accomplice. This is no different that providing a gun to someone who told you they plan on using it to murder.
@@288theabeSo with this logic, can all parents of gang related crimes committed by teens be charged too? Parents can’t control their kids’ actions or choices.
Unfortunately their child was 18 years old. No one held a gun to his head. He could have declined getting into that car. I understand their pain, but given their son didn’t “take the keys away from his friend” they’re just as much at fault for not teaching him to use better judgment…..by their logic.
Oh please give me a break. They just wants to get the mom charged so they can sue her. They know the kid has no money. Only the person driving the vehicle can be charged. His mom was not in the car. She did not give him drugs or alcohol.
This is like saying oh let’s charge the mother of a person who murdered someone bc he showed signs of behind “disturbed”. Was it a drunk driving accident ? What were the circumstances of the crash? Where did it happen ? There’s so little detail about this case. Such a dumb report. We live in a system where we assume “individual responsibility” but then at the same time we blame other people for a criminals actions. This is just an atttempt to find meaning in a tragic case. You’re not the other kids parents you don’t have the right to insist another parent take a kids car away.
Actually it's more like finding a weapon in the son's room, a notebook describing his inner thoughts of revenge or hatred to people and then ignoring it for it to then later escalate (for the murderer thing). That's if they do have actual evidence the mother knew of the speeding issue. Of course it relies on a lot of issues like you said, what is the circumstances and where / how did it happen.
We can't even be sure if that would have worked. He could have driven a friend's car. Or gotten in some other trouble. Remember, he is not 5 but 17 and knows the laws and knows he can be caught and still chose to do that.
Actually the driver was 17 and she had a app tracking his speed and knew for at least 1 year that he sped too much and she did nothing. She should be charged.
Absolutely insane take. If you really expect Parents to turn in there children your absolutely lost. The mom clearly talked to him about it and legally it is the police responsibility to stop reckless driving on the roads. Actually ridiculous
@@yerfoegthe parents KNEW that the teenager was driving recklessly. I would gladly my child in if I knew there was a high possibility they could have cause themselves and someone else harm
@@yerfoeg who said anything about turning him in? The point is she did NOTHING. At the very least, DO NOT LET HIM DRIVE THE CAR. She still left him access the keys when she was away.
I was thinking the same thing. Where does it end? If he had friends that frequently rode with him and knew he had a speeding problem yet did nothing, should they be held accountable too?
Their son also had the responsibility to ask about someone's driving skills before climbing into the car. And also saying sommething about how fast the driver was going.
You're right these parents who lost their kid should be charged for neglect too I mean if the mother of the drivers get charged because her son speeds then these parents who paid no tension to who the driver was or the history of him not driving safely this is called neglect I think all the parents should be held responsible at this point
Your parents were very smart. I got my license at 22, and I'm really glad I waited. I paid for my car & insurance myself. I never once borrowed my parents car. I was plenty mature by the time I started driving, and I had been walking to and from my job & saved up my money.
By their own logic, the parents of the deceased boy should also face jail for gross negligence in not teaching their son to choose better friends. I doubt this was his first time in the car with the speeding driver. This blame game won't rectify anything. The child is dead, and only the driver is to blame.
Driving fast , two teenage boys , you know THIER was smiles and laughter happening in that car until there wasn’t….WITH THAT BEING SAID ,hearing the mom that refer to the boy as a homicidal murderous criminal is wild, becuase WHAT DOES IT SAY OF YOUR PARENTING THAT YOUR SON STILL GOT IN HIS CAR ? And you know DAMN WELL THEY WERE HAVING THE TIMES OF THIER LIVES, na I don’t believe he’s a criminal , he was speeding , stupid kids , he didn’t plan to kill his friend, by definition he is not a murderous hideous criminal lady , your grief is being misplaced , I am sorry for your loss but this isn’t the way, the state woulda pressed charges anyway , going after his mom and a smear campaign isn’t a good look
I’m sorry to say, but he knew his friend drove fast and he probably didn’t care most likely. He liked it and that’s why he got in the car these people should’ve probably been watching their kid.
Why did your son get in the car? You should’ve told him not to get in the car these parents always look for somebody else to blame. She didn’t take the car away yeah but your son still got in it willingly no gone to his head anything forgot that part huh?
The second you see your kid drive recklessly and go over 150, that should be an automatic loss of driving privileges. They can just Uber or take the bus if they want to get somewhere.
Hell yes!
I agree. This is absolutely inexcusable.
His friend knew too and he still got in the car. He got in the car with him because he had fun being a passenger. He should be tried oh wait he can’t. Stupid is as stupid does.
@@wubbied4575 play stupid games win, stupid prizes……
I hear you on a common sense level, but I don’t think the court system would accept that. It might potentially have bearing on a civil suit
If only America had walkable cities then this wouldn't happen as much. Take the bus? Yall act like all cities have busses 😂
If my son ever drove 155 mph, I would lead the charge to put him in jail. Horrible parenting!
Yes, you sound like a horrible parent
Ur a horrible parent
And yet the parents of the kid that died *STILL ALLOWED* him to hang out with that kid. Hmm…
Everyone's son has driven 155mph
@@jaredleicht1656As a son...correct
Someone drives like that once while Im in their car. Im never getting in their car again.
i’m a victim of this!! i got in the car with a guy i met up with and he drove over 120 mph. i ended up ghosting him after that.
I SWEAR !!!
@@skylarvlogs1511
👏👏👏
Well you probably wont even be able to cause they would kill u for high speed.
You know your son knew how he drove and still got in the car
And the victim got in there too, knowing the driver’s driving attitude.
Sorry, sounds victim blaming but he knew, this wasn’t their first time together in the car.
My exact thoughts. He was 18, he knew better @@Amtcboy
So true !
@@Amtcboy That's what they said; "your son (victim) knew how he (his friend) drove..."
@Kat_288 it won't matter if the son was a minor.
Whose mother would even let their son/daughter do this?!
This one☝️
As if the parents were in the car with them
skibidi dunne
@@purple6705what?
I know right?? Bad mother right there…worst mother of the year award goes to her
The mother should have taken his speeding issues much more seriously. Not only is he endanger his life but also the others on the road!
I understand their pain, and I do think that the parent should have done more, but their son was 18. I find it hard to believe that if this was his friend, he didn’t also know that the friend had a speeding problem and yet still got in the car instead of calling his parents to come pick him up. I mean, that’s their whole logic, right? Prior knowledge. Why can’t it apply to their own child who was legally an adult?
The DRIVER was 17...... The victim was 18.
When I was a kid, we knew which one of our friends were the idiot drivers. We did not get in the car with them for a reason. Your son is responsible also. The mother is obviously useless
Agreed, he could've asked the guy to slow down, or let him out.
Absolutely 100 percent agree with you! The passenger was 18 a legal adult. He chose to ride with him.. but now his mama only gonna blame tye driver and his mother?? People beware!!!
Exactly, if you value your life get out or call the cops if he refuses
If a person is under 18, mother should be charged as should driver and no mention of cop pulling or attempting to pull over negligence on police force response as well.
No mention of either fathers. Always blame the mother. Funny how that works.
Wait, where's the driver now? Is he still in the hospital or prison?
He’s in jail, awaiting trial.
@@Starlight_Silverhe got bail lol
He's driving around town.
Thank you , I was looking for this comment, my question, too.
He's at Chuck E Cheese
So sorry for their loss. Yes, the mom knew about the problem. But sorry to say, the victim also knew about it too.
And it wasn’t their first time together in the car.
I can understand the parents being angry over the mother being aware of her son’s reckless driving however, seeking to charge her when their son made the choice to ride along and be that kids friend was a poor choice he made. I’m not blaming the victim but there is an accountability to recognize there too. One bad decision can cost a life. 😢
So that makes it okay?
on skibidi
Standard,,, two wrongs don't make a right,,
@@FrankYammy
Nothing about this is okay, but the mother should not be charged for the actions of her abusive son (22 law enforcement visits to the home for incidents of domestic violence)
My parents would have killed me if I got the speeding ticket for going over 100mph
Also, my dad clocked a teenager and his 19 year old passenger (already a ticket-able offense where I'm at) going 81 in a 35. When the kids parents arrived, the dad snatched the license away. That's what should have been done here.
So wait was your Dad like a police officer?
I agree
@@matthewp956 yup, for 28 years:)
The ticket was about $1,000
Sorry, but any sense I had of your dad having a sense of morals went out the window when you said he was a cop.
@@SavageMinnow
So you want it to be illegal for people to speed excessively and you want this kids parents to be charged for what they did but you don’t want any law enforcement to actually make that happen? Makes no sense. You can’t have laws with no way to enforce them.
once the mother said the driver was a “homicidal murderous criminal”i knew she jus wanting revenge at this point
She said driving not criminal
I heard it too: "homicidal murderous criminal driving."
What do you want it to?
@@stacyrich113 She just want someone to blame , and her son also need to share the blame to.
The driver is guilty
Not his mother
You have a real serious problem mate the kid knew the driver had a heavy foot but choose to go ride with him TAKE RESPONSIBILITY MATE
@@redemptiontime5954absolutely !!! Their son should have known better , ! Unfortunately he’s dead and his journey in life is over
@@redemptiontime5954victim blaming is crazy
@@FrankYammy no it’s not. Holding people accountable for their actions is appropriate. Everybody makes a choice.
Lady it doesn’t work like that… your son knew what car he was getting into 🤦🏽♂️
Luckily for them it does work like that, he's a minor, so mom will most likely face the charges.
That doesn’t mean he knew he was going to go speed around… The kid obviously had a problem, and the kid who died might not have even known he was going to speed that night… it might have been out of the blue adrenaline that made him speed. Way to go for victim blaming though. Keep that same mind set if one of your loved ones dies by the hand of someone else… Mor0n.
How do you know? Unlike the mom the kid didn't know how fast he was going all the time
So the 18 year old had no clue the driver drives this way?? The driver must have bragged about how fast he drives before the 18 year old went in the front seat
Knew so many parents like this back when I was high school. I would get super hammered at 15-16 years old and people like them would hold drinking parties for us, they were friends towards the kids, not parents. Looking back at it, so irresponsible.
Same here , my best friends house was basically the party house where everyone would stay the night there and get trashed and his mom would be the only buying all
The cases of beer for us 😂 I basically lived at that house thru high school
My friends parents would rather us drink at their house and have somewhere safe to sleep than drink at a bar, club, or random persons house. If young people wanna drink, they’re gonna drink regardless so might as well be there and supervised.
@@jmanrock11Exactly!
@jmanrock11 ok but hopefully not supplying it to them... 💀
its not the parents fault their son decided to speed, instead look towards wondering why someone would get in the car with someone who they know has a speeding problem
Well didn’t that boy know he was a fast driver….so many unanswered questions.
I am wondering the same thing. Why did the boy's mother not warn him not to be a passenger in his friend's car.
Why you victim blaming?
@@MeganKoumoridude if I knew my friend speeds at 155 mph I am not getting in his car it is common sense, don't surround urself around dangerous people and be surprised u got hurt
Being freshmen in college, the dead kid may not have known the driver's bad driving record. The driver was still 17, so this was likely early their freshman year.
The guy is an adult. He chose to get in the car knowing his driving record. The mother was not in the car nor told the kid to drive like that. She is not at fault. You can’t punish the parents for the child’s crime and vice versa
Yet you let your son go with the homicidal driver. Wow. Your grief has been misplaced.
That kid was in college. Probably wasn't living at home
they can charge the mom all they want, but she could only do so much to stop her on from driving. Her son made that decision, he made a conscious decision to drive that fast. He could of still took the keys, stolen another car and still drive. It is his fault
True but dam would it be nice to charge moms...
@@vyxairotciv4333 Such a slippery slope. People have personal responsibility. Charing parents for their adult children’s choices is a bad still to start doing.
@@vyxairotciv4333 not in this case mom's and dad's shouldn't have to parents there adult child 24/7
The parents were divorced and dad passed away after. The son would hit the mom and she had called the police on him in the past, she was probably terrified of what he would do if she hid the car keys or removed any of his privileges. Terrible situation all around.
"She could only do so much to stop from driving" Right...and she GAVE HIM A CAR.
"Her son made that decision". True. And she made the decision to give keys KNOWING he drives like this.
It’s always the driver that survives these things.
Instead of “taking the car keys away”, she should have grounded him from using the car.
You think instead of taking the keys, and grounding him is necessarily a good idea? Especially he a teenager including histories of speeding violations?
@@Stop-What-U-Are-Doing-At-Once He's 17, still considered a minor.
That's basically what taking the car keys away means.
I… think that’s the same thing.
Thats the same thing bruh
That kid who was the passenger was probably so scared 😱 rip. At first I thought both driver & passenger died & so that's why the parent's of the deceased wanted the orher parents to be punished but if the driver's alive then he should be the one charged for murder.
Unfortunately he wasnt scared enough to refuse to get back in the vehicle for the return drive
I thought the same.
If he was like 16 that logic would work, but he was 18 a legal adult. It’s not the parent responsibility that was his.
She knew of crimes happening by him speeding that fast
The driver was 17, the passenger that was killed was 18. But then the passenger was legally an adult, probably knew how his friend drove and got in the car anyway. Poor choices by all involved.
@@jamesphillips9911 yeah that’s what everyone saying but that’s about the end of it. There’s nothing more she could do about it evidence that was presented. She knew he went over the speed limit so she figured he just get arrested. There was nothing that indicated he would go as fast as he did. She can’t take his stuff away because he’s an adult. He can just leave when he wants.
@@kayreinier182 WRONG. He's 17, the car is almost guaranteed to be in her name. Doesn't matter how old he is if she's the owner.
@@ffjsb there is nothing that would tell her he would go and do something like this. She knew he would speed, but not to this extent like I said to the other person she probably figured he was going to get arrested for speeding and then that would be the end of it. the type of mentality you’re using is not very healthy. It is completely his fault.
Was he forced to get in the car?! Always blame the other one.Did you take your parents responsibilities and tell your kid not to get in cars with bad drivers?!
Exactly. She is just mad she wasn't watching her own kind and now wants to blame someone else.
I believe grief changes you
How was the passenger suppose to know that the driver was going to do that? Who knows maybe the passenger asked to slow, stop or to get out. Drivers mom enabled his behavior and recklessness.
ABSOLUTELY
@@laames1599I can guarantee the passenger knew how his friend drove and got in the car anyway. I speak from experience, my friends got in my car all the time knowing how I drove, some even encouraged it.
Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.
~Jeremy Clarkson
Truly a great philosopher of our time
Uh your son was an adult and chose to get in that car.
Why the need to blame the victim?
@@moonshoes11 because he’s an adult and makes his own choices. This is all about about trying to get money. The kid is is a grown adult and chose to get in the car.
@@moonshoes11 because adults make their own choices. Why blame the parents who had nothing to do with it?
Why did you let your son ride with the irresponsible kid?
Underrated comment. Did they're reaching app record the speeds when he was riding with his friend? If so, they knew.
How did the victim/passenger's mom know? She didn't have the app.
@@thetravelrun4the driver's mom is the one that had the app not the dead kid's mom
I am so sorry for the loss of this young man and the pain his family is going through.
I am sorry for their loss but that's pushing it...
lol . Come on . His mother was not behind the wheel . The state gave him a license.
And the mother provided him with a car
@@itisimichael7485 the government supplies money to families. They do drugs and die . So is that the governments fault. No . The person driving . Period. Does it suck yes . I taught my daughters to pivot their head on a swivel to avoid idiot drivers at all costs
Exactly. Why not arrest the DMV worker who gave him the license, her manager... oh also the governor since he eventually is the last manager in that chain.
@@itisimichael7485why should we just got to the mother you should go out to the grandparents The mother's mother for having the mother also I believe we should go after the mother's mother Even if she's in the ground she still responsible for this action and then the father yes the father's father Don't forget his family members also his uncle don't forget the uncles the grandchildren the cousins can't forget about the cousins
@@itisimichael7485 Yeah and the car manufacturer provided the car for the mom to purchase to provide her kid with the car, sue that car maker too!!
Definition of enabler. Mother should be charged as accessory.
Like the friend (passenger) didn’t know how fast his friend tends to drive? He was probably even enjoying & laughing about it prior to the accident.
This was freshman year of college. Likely very early in the freshman year as driver was still 17. Dead kid may not have known him well to know about his bad driving
Does that change anything? He still killed someone
This is just crazy now. We should be blaming the driver not the mother. And did the driver survive or is he in prison?
Trav, the driver is a minor that is why
If the driver's mother had knowledge of her 17 year old son driving THAT recklessly then she should have taken that car away PERIOD - As a parent of two teen aged boys in my house, one of them being a new driver, he should never have been given access to a car that fast in the first place.
This story is really quite disturbing.
Whether they get criminal accountability - and I’m thinking they may - there’s certainly enormous civil liability.
I understand the pov of the victim's parents, but their kid chose to ride with this person, so...But parents really need to be firm with their kids. His mom should have taken the car away.
RIP to the teen!!!! 😔😞💔💔💔
The guy who murdered Dimebag Darrell did so with the gun that was given to him by his mother as a gift after she knew he was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. Yet she took no accountability and was held to none.
The driver is to blame.
Imagine if every parent got locked up when their child did something wrong.
"Imagine if every parent got locked up when their child did something wrong."
I imagine people would raise their kids better and the US wouldn't be a crime-filled cesspool.
@@krashd Ya think?
They kinds do face punishment when their undersged child breaks the law and they fail their parental duty.
@@Ashbrash1998 Kids will circumvent the rules unbeknownst to the parent/s or guardian/s.
With this logic, they should charge the person who gave him his license at the DMV
Nah she should ask the police to charge his son to as he also share the blame.
The obvious flaw in your 'logic' is that the mother KNEW he was a dangerous driver and still decided to let him drive HER car. Did the person at the dmv KNOW he was a dangerous driver BEFORE they decided to give him the license?
I understand the parents outrage but that boy is 17 years old in college. He is a grown man and mama can't control his actions. We don't know who the car's name was in or who purchased the car. We need more info to make a clear judgment but regardless the young man needs to be charged with manslaughter due to reckless driving not the parents. Not much you can do to control your kids at 17
The kid made his own choice to be a passenger. He knew his friend drove fast
The family should sue themselves for not keeping track of their own son
All you kids under the age of 25 need to stop compensating for trying to be cool in a car filled with your friends. That just means you’re mind is still under the age of those you admired to be like.
Her kids fault
Can’t be the mother’s fault. Kid was 18 or close to it, enough to know right and wrong.
😑 she let him drive KNOWING he drove at speeds of excess of 100mph. That's 100% guilty.
@@John-Smith02I severly doibt he was always doing it, he would have been caught. More likely he did it at night with his friends. Doubt he speeded when his mother was with him. She probably heard from others or he was caufht once or twice before. But i doubt he did this every time he was in a car. There is no way he wouldnt have been caught nunerous times and have everything taken off him. The mother had a speeding app on her phone ...most parents dont have that. She obviously was tryna help him not to speed. The young guy who gotbin the car likely got in knowing the speed they would be going at. Young guys love to gather up at night and speed and do those circles on the road late at night ...all over the world.
@@jamiemohan2049 the thing is this, she KNEW he sped in excess of 100mph. Whether it's 1 time or 100 times, something that extreme deserves the keys taken away and trying to get him arrested for reckless driving. At the VERY LEAST she should have taken the keys away. If she didn't, she's 100% guilty for gross negligence/culpable negligence.
@@jamiemohan2049she had a tracker showing how fast he was going and knew he had a history of doing it.
This is so tragic. I’m so sorry for them
This is such a slippery slope
I swear people want to live in North Korea so badly
This is stupid. Not preventing a crime is not a crime.
Not at all
@@theoryofpersonality1420it literally is😂you dont know the law
so parents will now be charged for anything kids do
I got a speeding ticket going 80 mph on the freeways “65” , never sped again, I have no idea what made this young man going 155 was okay
Lack of parenting
I understand her charges, however it would set a bad precedent for everyone under 18 committing a crime. It's not the same as the school shooter.
Realistically, this will most likely come down to insurance coverage.
If the speeding driver was under his parents' insurance, then the parents' (mother) could be held financially liable at the very least.
Its exactly like the school shooter, his parents were charged because they provided the weapon that was used to kill people . This mother also provided the weapon (the car) with which he killed somebody
I think each parents should be held accountable for allowing their own children committing a dangerous crime. I feel sorry for the victim.
I believe the victim's parents also should be charged from neglect they didn't pay any attention to their kid or the fact that he got into a car with someone who likes to speed to me that is neglect they didn't take their time out to do any research or pay attention anything
About time parents and being held accountable
what is this world coming too? having to be charged and thrown in prison for somebody else's actions!
Welcome to the great country of North Korea🎉
Yeah, somebody who you're responsible for...🤦♂
@@288theabe at 17 tho plus At what point does personal responsibility factor into the equation? he was 19 and got in that car to drive fast with his friend he knew what the risks were he took them on. he's way more responsible for his own death then a 3rd party.
She knew her son was a reckless driver putting everyone on the road in danger, yet she didn't lock away the keys and continued providing a car. That makes her an accomplice. This is no different that providing a gun to someone who told you they plan on using it to murder.
@@288theabeSo with this logic, can all parents of gang related crimes committed by teens be charged too? Parents can’t control their kids’ actions or choices.
🚨What a horrible reckless mother!!! 😡
Unfortunately their child was 18 years old. No one held a gun to his head. He could have declined getting into that car. I understand their pain, but given their son didn’t “take the keys away from his friend” they’re just as much at fault for not teaching him to use better judgment…..by their logic.
Oh please give me a break. They just wants to get the mom charged so they can sue her. They know the kid has no money. Only the person driving the vehicle can be charged. His mom was not in the car. She did not give him drugs or alcohol.
This is like saying oh let’s charge the mother of a person who murdered someone bc he showed signs of behind “disturbed”. Was it a drunk driving accident ? What were the circumstances of the crash? Where did it happen ? There’s so little detail about this case. Such a dumb report. We live in a system where we assume “individual responsibility” but then at the same time we blame other people for a criminals actions. This is just an atttempt to find meaning in a tragic case. You’re not the other kids parents you don’t have the right to insist another parent take a kids car away.
Actually it's more like finding a weapon in the son's room, a notebook describing his inner thoughts of revenge or hatred to people and then ignoring it for it to then later escalate (for the murderer thing). That's if they do have actual evidence the mother knew of the speeding issue. Of course it relies on a lot of issues like you said, what is the circumstances and where / how did it happen.
You've never heard of 'adult accountability'?
Is there a father? Why does it always fall on the mother? Good luck trying to control a full grown male who happens to barely be underage.
Taking yourself out is one thing but taking someone else out with you???! That’s selfish and evil
Why didn’t she take his car away? That’s insane.
Why did BMW make such a fast car? Sue them
@@bigvaxmeanie925 What a moronic comparison.
We can't even be sure if that would have worked. He could have driven a friend's car. Or gotten in some other trouble. Remember, he is not 5 but 17 and knows the laws and knows he can be caught and still chose to do that.
@@bigvaxmeanie925What.
Possibly because the police had visited the home at least 22 documented times for acts of domestic violence that the son committed
Actually the driver was 17 and she had a app tracking his speed and knew for at least 1 year that he sped too much and she did nothing. She should be charged.
Absolutely insane take. If you really expect Parents to turn in there children your absolutely lost. The mom clearly talked to him about it and legally it is the police responsibility to stop reckless driving on the roads. Actually ridiculous
@@yerfoegyou're the type of person to defend Ethan Crumbley's parents
@@yerfoegthe parents KNEW that the teenager was driving recklessly. I would gladly my child in if I knew there was a high possibility they could have cause themselves and someone else harm
@@yerfoeg who said anything about turning him in? The point is she did NOTHING. At the very least, DO NOT LET HIM DRIVE THE CAR. She still left him access the keys when she was away.
@@yerfoeg No one said anything about turning them in. Least she could have done is lock the keys away!
Condolences to the family.
Next sue the maker of the vehicle! How dare he make such a speedy vehicle! 🙄
What do you mean?
@@elihavens3199they were being sarcastic, kinda pointing out how people point fingers at the most absurd things
@blabla-eb8wm How is it absurd to blame the parents in this situation when their child is a minor and they’re aware of his speeding issues?
And sue who ever put that tree there
I was thinking the same thing. Where does it end? If he had friends that frequently rode with him and knew he had a speeding problem yet did nothing, should they be held accountable too?
I agree 100% with these grieving parents.
Why does a 17 year old even have a car that can go 150mph?
Your car cannot reach 150mph?
This poor mother couldn’t stop her son from being a dumbass anymore than these parents could stop their child from hanging out with him.
I get it, their child died, but you cant try to get everyone arrested becasue your grieving............
Dude 155?!!??? Nah she should definitely be charged !!!
Unfortunately he agreed to get on the passenger seat
I thought 18 was an adult... and able to make adult choices? here's the can of worms that comes with letting people charge parents.
I really feel for these parents but….their son was an adult and made a choice to get in the speed demon’s car. It’s terribly tragic!!!
I’m tired of family of passengers involved in high speed crashes putting it all the blame on the driver.
Wow, they have a great point here, and a case.
Why would you let your kid get in the car with the driver then???
I am so sorry.
Even if the mom took his keys this kid wouldn’t have learned his lesson and he would’ve did it to someone else
Your son made the choice to go.
Their son also had the responsibility to ask about someone's driving skills before climbing into the car. And also saying sommething about how fast the driver was going.
She let her son go with him. And her son knew soooooo. It's your fault for letting your son. Go with that friendsl
Playing devils advocate your son knew how his friend drove and still chose to get in the car with him.
Sending my deepest sympathies and condolences to his families and friends and loved ones ❤❤❤❤❤❤
They’re right! It was honestly a matter of time… very sad
You're right these parents who lost their kid should be charged for neglect too I mean if the mother of the drivers get charged because her son speeds then these parents who paid no tension to who the driver was or the history of him not driving safely this is called neglect I think all the parents should be held responsible at this point
I think this should be the start of holding bad parents accountable for bad parenting
And the passenger had no idea his friend was going to be speeding I suppose, so absolutely no responsibility there!
Blaming the parent is ridiculous.
I mean, the son is also responsible for getting in the car with him
And you let your son drive around with these kids so you both should go to prison for child neglect
My parents didn’t even let me drive until I was 18, and that was only because I got a job.
Your parents were very smart. I got my license at 22, and I'm really glad I waited. I paid for my car & insurance myself. I never once borrowed my parents car. I was plenty mature by the time I started driving, and I had been walking to and from my job & saved up my money.
Mom def should be held accountable!
By their own logic, the parents of the deceased boy should also face jail for gross negligence in not teaching their son to choose better friends. I doubt this was his first time in the car with the speeding driver.
This blame game won't rectify anything. The child is dead, and only the driver is to blame.
My family member is a potato now because she also wanted to feel cool with her friends going 100.
Very Foolish To Get In a Car With Someone That Reckless! RIP
victims trying to find someone to blame the mother is not in the wrong, tho I feel so bad for these people losing their son
Driving fast , two teenage boys , you know THIER was smiles and laughter happening in that car until there wasn’t….WITH THAT BEING SAID ,hearing the mom that refer to the boy as a homicidal murderous criminal is wild, becuase WHAT DOES IT SAY OF YOUR PARENTING THAT YOUR SON STILL GOT IN HIS CAR ? And you know DAMN WELL THEY WERE HAVING THE TIMES OF THIER LIVES, na I don’t believe he’s a criminal , he was speeding , stupid kids , he didn’t plan to kill his friend, by definition he is not a murderous hideous criminal lady , your grief is being misplaced , I am sorry for your loss but this isn’t the way, the state woulda pressed charges anyway , going after his mom and a smear campaign isn’t a good look
It’s not the mother’s fault. She’s also been through enough by losing her son, her going to jail would make this even more devastating.
I’m sorry to say, but he knew his friend drove fast and he probably didn’t care most likely. He liked it and that’s why he got in the car these people should’ve probably been watching their kid.
What an AWFUL take…
If I was the judge, license revoked with a lifetime ban
Why did your son get in the car? You should’ve told him not to get in the car these parents always look for somebody else to blame. She didn’t take the car away yeah but your son still got in it willingly no gone to his head anything forgot that part huh?
You can’t be with your son 24/7. That mother is not guilty at all. She can’t lock her son up in a room forever