Lol chris I live by that M2 entrance and I do that weekly. Only one puncture after a few years of riding. I have been running 4000II for years, think I have gone through 10+ of these. My biggest issue with them is sidewall strengh. Always replaced due to sidewall failures, only had like 2 tires go out due to running out of TWI. Also the late batches had a issue where the fabric wrapping around the bead tends to fray for unknown reason. The fraying became worse and one time the thread was caught and entangled in the gap between the hub cassette. Another time the thread frayed enough it made the sidewall dettach from the bead at one site and a really loud blowout ensued while my bike was (thankfully) parked at a cafe near my home. So if the 5000 can have stronger sidewall that is a good reason to upgrade. But for now, 4000II at $50 each right now is just unbeatable. I rememeber 4000II was sold at 80 bucks few years back, then 64 bucks, then 59 bucks and now 50 bucks. Reckon it takes a while for 5000 to come down huh? UPDATE: according to rollingresistance site the 5000 has less thread and sidewall puncture resistance than 4000II. For about 2 watts saving at 100 psi? Don't think I will buy it.
Just got a set for my tubeless fulcrum racing 3s, can’t wait to ride them. Forewarning to anyone looking to run these on fulcrums, they are a total pita to get on, had to take them to a shop and it took 3 guys there to get them on... so forget about sticking a tube in them on the side of the road if you flat.
When I first heard the new updated tire I immediately committed to putting them on the race bike for the 2019 season. I've loved, loved, LOVED, the gp4000s ii! Between racing, rain, cruising, puncture protection, stability on hard pack gravel (a couple of the paved trails in the Seattle area haven't been completely asphaulted so you got some hard pack gravel), and yes even light snow on the ground (originally from Wisconsin) the 4000s were/are AMAZING. Have I mentioned 0 punctures during the last two years of exclusively riding the 4000s? Never felt so confident on a tire, I just trust it implicitly. If the 5000s are only a 1% improvement then they will be worth the price to me. These will go on after the winter months and the local crit and track races start, super excited to try them! Thanks for the review, it's what I expect from you and it's fantastic!
Had been riding Conti GP4000S for 3 years. Problem I have is riding in Abu Dhabi the high temperatures 36 - 50 C during summer seem to wear the tires down very quickly (ie: replaced each 6 months / was also rotating front/back tire for extra life). I new when to change tires as I would start getting punctures or side walls cracked and pinched tubes. Since Pirelli launched their new range of tires, I have been riding on Pirelli Zero's for a year and they have been really good, only 1 puncture so far (touch wood). Admittedly I do not do the km's that you guys do, but still I expect some value for money in a product that you would have thought they would have conducted more testing in extreme conditions. Hope Conti GP 5000's perform much better. Cheers
Doubtful as they are still using the same blackChilli rubber compound. Its a shame but thats how it goes. Even here in Europe where the temperatures are generally cooler, there have been many reports about the sidewalls on the tyre splitting so tyre isnt completely without fault. Hopefully the Pirelli's keep working well for you or you have found another suitable alternative.
nice bike I have 2017 Colnago V1R Ferrari Edition bought .Just got say your reviews kick ass.But one silly question.ive read with Continental Grand Prix tubeless version these tires will hold up air with out sealant .Is that true?and is that safe to ride .I'm just curious how they feel.
I got it today with the inner tubes thin version and I saw difference asap... I loved my ride today. They have extra protection and they are recommended from all stores and I saw performance in my speed imidiately and if it gives me some safety and grip is just for the price the best
In several months on Conti 5000 clinchers I road them until they wore down to where the little dots were no longer visible (on the rear tire). I had one puncture during that time. My feeling is that they are more durable than 4000s.
Hmmm interesting. Wondering how they compare to the S-works? Switched from GP4000 to s-works because the grip was better with same puncture resistance. Hesitant to go back because the s-works have been so good. I’ve also heard some say the s-works has better grip than the 5000’s after running both 🤔.
All I can say is you would be tipping it pretty far over before you find any issues with the 5000s. Too be honest, I'm not really capable of finding that tipping point on them
I’ve been riding the 4000’s for a few months. Never had so many punctures ever. Bought some 5000’s and waiting for them in the mail. Hope they out perform the 4000’s or it will be back to Vittoria.
I still have a couple of 4000s ll left I'm going to have to go through first, but I've always been please with the wearing and cut protection, always thought it was excellent and I ride on some very debris covered roads at times so I can't wait to put some 5000 on..
Hey, very good review indeed & I totally agree. I always ran 4000's, now have done around 500 or 600 k's on the 5000's and am very impressed. I run 25mm on Shimano RS rims, which are a step down from the Durace's you run, but are the same "looking" rim. Only thing I have noticed of late, there must be a flat spot on either my front or rear, as it feels a bit lumpy or bumpy?! on smooth surfaces. I have a Merida Scultura 5000, run about 105 psi and weigh 79 kgs. I can't see any mark on the tyres, but I must have locked a brake at some stage. Is this likely to go back to smooth after a considerable amount of riding or could my wheels need truing? I haven't hit any noticeable pot holes or anything? (BTW that Bianchi - wow, that is a magnificent looking frame!)
Not sure if you got it sorted but it seems like you're running your tyres way too hard. I would consider dropping then to at least 90 psi and giving it a go. Potentially even lower. Unless you're riding on an indoor velodrome.
Have just purchased a pair from 99Bikes, can't wait to fit them up, I did toss up mounting them tubeless But have had issues with my Scwalbe Pro Ones running tubeless so back to lightweight Conti Supersonic tubes seems to be best for me and the riding/racing I do. Will keep you posted on how they go. Cheers.
Thanks for that Dave. Yeh I was super tempted to run some latex inner tubes in these to get the full experience. Will let you know if I do and how they feel.
Just a quick update on these tyres, UNREAL!!! when fitted with the Conti Supersonic lightweight tubes they have better feel than my tubelss Scwalbe Pro one 28's and seem faster, fitting I thought was marginally harder than my previous Conti 4000's but still went on without levers. Running 90psi rear and 85psi front no marks, cuts or signs of damage, best tyre I have used to date, will now replace my Scwalbe Pro ones on Giant Defy with 28mm 5000's and run them tubeless for touring, Fondos and training. Cheers.
Hey David can I ask how the 28mm 5000’s go for clearance on your giant Defy? I used to run 28mm 4000’s on my giant Defy and there just wasn’t enough clearance to do it safely in my opinion. I’m now on a TCR and would love to run 28mm but am now running 25mm 4000’s as I’m too scared to run 28mm again due to the clearance issues. Thanks.
Hi Jeremy, I've actually fitted the 25mm 5000's to my Alloy Defy have tried 28mm 4000's but same as you not happy with the minimal clearance (about 1-2mm), have 28mm Scwalbe Pro One's on my carbon Defy but that is a disk brake version so no problems there. Will be changing the Scwalbe's to Conti 5000's in 28mm as soon as I can, not all that happy with the Scwalbe's . The Conti new 5000's in 25mm do appear a bit narrower than my previous 4000's in 25mm, so possibly the 28mm may also be narrower than the 28mm 4000's which measured 30mm on my Dura ace C24 rims. So far extremely happy with the new Conti 5000's in ride quality, handling and speed also lighter when combined with the lightweight Conti Supersonic tubes. Cheers.
@@jez0084 they are _substantially_ narrower than the 4000. I swapped out a 25 4k for a 5k and it's 2.1 mm narrower on the same rim by my calipers. I didn't have a 4000 in 28 but I also put on a 5000 28 on the back and it's 2mm narrower than a Hutchinson Fusion 5 in 28- and that itself is a narrow 28, I run it on the front on a bike that won't take a 28mm Schwalbe One.
Just (yesterday) changed to the GP 5000. Have ridden Vredestein and Durano +. Had quite a few punctures on them and looking forward to my new tires. Easy to install, and agree they look great on my Specialized Venge :-)
Put these on my fixed gear and they’re nutty! The roll is crazy, also makes me pedal faster, therefore going faster. Maybe, just Maybe, a 300g+ weight saving on the tyres.
Now this was an awesome review...Imaginative, a bit creative, informative, useful, entertaining (with the racing), a bit of humor, answers questions etc. Seemed like not an infomercial and I hope it was not. It only needs another review when a lot more miles on it which is promised. Adding to enjoyment....I just purchased these online before watching this. Thanks.
Nice W. I think Coyle sums it up nicely, don’t fix what isn’t broken. I love the GP4000II. If they have one downfall it is that they do seem to pick up cuts in the sidewalls and small holes where I ride, which has plenty of little pieces of flint on the road, but I stick a patch inside and that seems to be fine. I was in the bike shop today and the GP5000 were on the shelf for £55, so quite a bit more. I wouldn’t pay the extra, but I’m sure they will be as good if not better. The only thing I don’t think they got right is the packaging. It’s almost all black now. I had to ask if they were in stock, so easy to look straight past them.
I live in Texas and have Continental Grand Prix 4000 s II tires in 700 x 25c on my Lemond Buenos Aires but yes, like you said, on sidewall cuts and also pinch flats.
I use 4000s all day everyday. They are fantastic until that first puncture. Once they have that first hole I find they have reached their service life and it's time to replace them, even if they still have plenty of meat left on them. Can't wait to try 5000s, but will wait for a price drop before I use them to commute on.
@@ChrisMillerCycling I reckon 3500-4000, depending on how much road crap is around after rain. But as I think you mentioned, for the price they do everything for most people. I have a new set coming Monday, training for Alpine classic. Yay
Yeah I reckon tour spot on with that, I find that once the roundness starts to flatten the punctures come and they have to go. This is my only downside as that's 2 sets a year. @@damienwalker1026
Chris have you tried Gatorskins for puncher resistance on training wheels? They dont look the best but in Alice Springs we have more broken glass then Bagdad
I used to ride them all the time (especially in Ireland), but too be honest when I moved to 4000s I didn't find the puncture protection to be all that different, and given the 4000s are a good bit faster, I never went back.
@@darrenhill8503 you could also consider the Grand Prix 4 Season. Almost as good puncture protection as the Gatorskin but much better grip and faster rolling.
@@Furies-72 Did two rides (26 and 30 miles) and these tires are fantastic! They roll faster and handle exceptionally well. The problem I have now is, just bought a DT Swiss ERC100 DiCUT 47 Disc wheelset which will arrive next week and I am going to have to ride the non tubeless tires for a while on the new wheels. Oh well, first world problems, right :)
But will you go tubeless? I have Schwalbe Pro One Tubeless 25mm on my S-works Venge and I'm interested in going back to clinchers since tubeless tires are a pain to fit when they aren't new out of the box. Can you do a comparison between the tubeless conti and the clinchers?
How do you take the video while ridding, and what camera do you use, thank you guys for the video, you guys are great. And i hope you guys will answer me! Im buying these tires tomorrow!
I'd like to see your take on these vs the budget ultra sports folding bead. I've got a 28mm set and they've been great but I'd like to know if it'd be worth the upgrade for performance gains to the 5000's
Hey man, I haven’t ridden the ultra sports, but my take on tires is less about performance and more about reliability and comfort. I know when I compared the MAXXIS refuse to the Open Roads, while the refuse were bulletproof the fact the Open Roads just made the whole experience of riding a bike more enjoyable had me leaning towards the more expensive options.
Thanks for your GREAT review! I just ordered 2 ea. 700x25 tubeless ones for my Cannondale System six with Knot 64 wheels. I ride daily to work and really rely upon my tires. I'm a big fella (230lbs) and run 120psi (rear) & 100 in the front. I also use "finish line" tire sealant.
I've seen you respond with this exact same comment on multiple gp5000 videos. Nobody cares about what kind of bike you say you ride. My god TH-cam commenters are so weird.
I ride GP4000s in the Reflex model, ie silver reflective sidewall with no logos. Much sleeker look without branding. Will the 5000 have this option? When riding an 80km return commute up the M2 and M7 performance matters more than a 5km inner-city trundle.
thedownunderverse It’s silver. The tyres have no logos and I think they look great. And now that the 5000 is out they can be had for ~$45. Pic: imgur.com/a/JIoK1Oj
Great Tip dan! I'll keep my eye out for them, as for decal options on the 5000s, I don't believe there are are variations at this stage. Though my guess is once we see the tubeless versions hit the market we will see some updates
Dan M It’s a shame they aren’t available in 23mm. My wheelsets (bora and shamal) are all 17c internal and I’ve found the 23mm Conti’s create the best profile/shape on this size of rim
Been running 4000 for 2 years and I change them once I get a flat. In my experience they last between 4000 to 5000 Ks before a flat so these days I change at approx 4000 which means I get approx 1 flat per year⭐️⭐️⭐️. Can’t wait to hit 4000ks on existing ones so I can try the 5000s
Hi Chris. Continental tyres are slightly taller in profile(oval shaped) compared to most brands. Important because with close fitting frames the tyre may hit back of BB area or even fork crown.Is this the case with the 5000's?
Hey Oz. Ok so I've had a good look and I can honestly say they are actually a lower profile compared to the 4000s. I have a heap of clearance on the XR4, and that doesn't have a huge amount of space by rule.
Just fitted these new from my bike, the feel very glossy and have more excess rubber in the middle of the tyre than any other i have ever used. Should I do anything to break them in for riding?
Great review, have 4000's on the summer bike so a good upgrade for next year. On a side note how was your switch from Apple. How you liking the TAG compared to the Apple Watch?
"summer bike" ... Oh I remember this chat, northern hemisphere life 😂. Ok so I am loving the pixel, I really wanted to go #fullGoogle with everything I do now in that environment. That said, getting out if the apple ecosystem has been tough. Android wear OS is very much a work in progress, but I love it's customisation
As much as I loved the GP4000s tires in the past we have to get honest here: Continental has been *cutting corners* to achieve their tubeless tires! The sidewalls aren't reinforced and their bead isn't hookless compatible. Essentially you're getting a normal tire that works with sealant. Many people on the forums and on Reddit have issues with these tires: damage on the fragile sidewalls runs them inoperable! So *not* a proper tubeless tire!
Hey Tom, in all honesty I'm finding the 5000s slightly less durable then the 4000. That said, I have only had 1 flat tyre and that was during the gravel and tar UCI race, that saw 40km of gravel riding. The reason I say they are less durable is just the rubber seems slightly more cut up then the 4000 would be.
I find Conti 4000s are overrated, other tires are underrated. Some great tires like Michelins, IRC and Panaracer etc out there. Will try the 5000s though, just because I haven't tired them yet.
@@ChrisMillerCycling I never found Michelins particularly hard to mount vs anything else, but I struggle with tubeless ready rims, may have evolved strong fingers. :-)
Tried a bunch of different tires, but never tried the GP 4000's or 5000's I have been so happy with the S-Works gripton , they feel great!!!! Why change I say, but must try the GP4000/5000 just in case :-)
Never really been a Conti fan, as I run tubulars mostly and the Competition tyres are a HUGE hassle to put on, so I am a Veloflex fan. Contis were the standard some years ago for clinchers, but I do believe the other manufacturers have caught up. The new Graphene Vittorias are really good, especially the speed version, just magic, but you only get 1000km out of them. I don’t know about the 5000s but I always felt the 4000s a bit harsh on the ride.
Just recently purchased the GP5000 after 500kms, so far it rolls really well even in wet condition. Although I encountered a pinch flat it still does its job. 😃 Performance wise for me.It's a PR killer in Strava 😆
The Conti gp 5000 tyres are crap. Your in Australia where the weather is much better. Try riding them on wet, muddy and pot hole strewn UK roads in the winter they are crap. I flatted from a piece of glass which left a slash about 15mm wide across the tyre on only the second ride on them. I've flatted a further twice on them since so that's 3 times in about six weeks, I only use the bike they are fitted to on my Sunday club rides. Every puncture has been in the back wheel. I'm going to give the Pirelli Cinturato velo ltr tyres ago I know their roling resistance is a lot higher 15 watts compared to 10 for the conti gp 5000 but I would rather be slower and not be flatting on nearly every ride as these are clearly not a winter tyre and I will get another gp 5000 tyre and run them with a tyre liner in the summer months when the roads are dryer and cleaner here in the UK. This is just my experience with them. The gp 4000s tyres are excellent thought I've done 1500 miles on those so far and not a single puncture or cut on them though those miles were all logged in the summer on nearly all dry fairly warm days only a couple of wet weather rides.
I got this tyre. Clincher of course. At first i did not expect much even though i’ve read and watched some review until recently i rode with my friends at night. In that ride, i rode off glass, screws and light reflectors accidentally. And to my surprise the tyre held well. I was so sure my rim will cracked but i’m wrong. I’ll suggest anyone to go for this tyre
This bike was really easy to assemble th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
You've come a long way Chris Miller
Lol chris I live by that M2 entrance and I do that weekly. Only one puncture after a few years of riding. I have been running 4000II for years, think I have gone through 10+ of these. My biggest issue with them is sidewall strengh. Always replaced due to sidewall failures, only had like 2 tires go out due to running out of TWI. Also the late batches had a issue where the fabric wrapping around the bead tends to fray for unknown reason. The fraying became worse and one time the thread was caught and entangled in the gap between the hub cassette. Another time the thread frayed enough it made the sidewall dettach from the bead at one site and a really loud blowout ensued while my bike was (thankfully) parked at a cafe near my home. So if the 5000 can have stronger sidewall that is a good reason to upgrade. But for now, 4000II at $50 each right now is just unbeatable. I rememeber 4000II was sold at 80 bucks few years back, then 64 bucks, then 59 bucks and now 50 bucks. Reckon it takes a while for 5000 to come down huh? UPDATE: according to rollingresistance site the 5000 has less thread and sidewall puncture resistance than 4000II. For about 2 watts saving at 100 psi? Don't think I will buy it.
Thanks for a straight forward review. Great to hear someone talk straight about them. I think I will likely give them a go when I need new tyres.
Have to agree with AH, can’t believe you don’t have more subscribers. Love the channel
Chris...great channel and a great, real-world review. Well done!
Just got a set for my tubeless fulcrum racing 3s, can’t wait to ride them. Forewarning to anyone looking to run these on fulcrums, they are a total pita to get on, had to take them to a shop and it took 3 guys there to get them on... so forget about sticking a tube in them on the side of the road if you flat.
That’s an interesting point about tubeless setups full stop. The difficulty of getting those damn tyres on has to be a downside.
Another great video Chris, can't believe you don't have 10x as many subscribers!
Thanks Andrew. Getting there mate.
When I first heard the new updated tire I immediately committed to putting them on the race bike for the 2019 season. I've loved, loved, LOVED, the gp4000s ii!
Between racing, rain, cruising, puncture protection, stability on hard pack gravel (a couple of the paved trails in the Seattle area haven't been completely asphaulted so you got some hard pack gravel), and yes even light snow on the ground (originally from Wisconsin) the 4000s were/are AMAZING. Have I mentioned 0 punctures during the last two years of exclusively riding the 4000s? Never felt so confident on a tire, I just trust it implicitly. If the 5000s are only a 1% improvement then they will be worth the price to me. These will go on after the winter months and the local crit and track races start, super excited to try them!
Thanks for the review, it's what I expect from you and it's fantastic!
Had been riding Conti GP4000S for 3 years. Problem I have is riding in Abu Dhabi the high temperatures 36 - 50 C during summer seem to wear the tires down very quickly (ie: replaced each 6 months / was also rotating front/back tire for extra life). I new when to change tires as I would start getting punctures or side walls cracked and pinched tubes. Since Pirelli launched their new range of tires, I have been riding on Pirelli Zero's for a year and they have been really good, only 1 puncture so far (touch wood). Admittedly I do not do the km's that you guys do, but still I expect some value for money in a product that you would have thought they would have conducted more testing in extreme conditions. Hope Conti GP 5000's perform much better. Cheers
Doubtful as they are still using the same blackChilli rubber compound. Its a shame but thats how it goes. Even here in Europe where the temperatures are generally cooler, there have been many reports about the sidewalls on the tyre splitting so tyre isnt completely without fault.
Hopefully the Pirelli's keep working well for you or you have found another suitable alternative.
nice bike I have 2017 Colnago V1R Ferrari Edition bought .Just got say your reviews kick ass.But one silly question.ive read with Continental Grand Prix tubeless version these tires will hold up air with out sealant .Is that true?and is that safe to ride .I'm just curious how they feel.
Such a nice review Chris, best fact putting it into a race circuit at Hefron which has a demanding terrain for speed and traction. Big thanks.
Glad you liked the review mate
Good Review! i purchased the 5000's today and cant wait to give them a go
Awesome review. I bought these to replace my 4k’s based on your review. Thanks!
Better? And which gAve less punctures?
I got it today with the inner tubes thin version and I saw difference asap... I loved my ride today. They have extra protection and they are recommended from all stores and I saw performance in my speed imidiately and if it gives me some safety and grip is just for the price the best
Another nice review Chris. However, 12:12 can we talk about how you keep your Boosts looking so box fresh?
I bought the 5000 2 weeks ago and I love this ties.😀 Driving smoff
In several months on Conti 5000 clinchers I road them until they wore down to where the little dots were no longer visible (on the rear tire). I had one puncture during that time. My feeling is that they are more durable than 4000s.
I never had any problems on the 4000s. Now on the 5000s I already had more flats this year than the last two years combined.
would like to see the tubeless version being tested - thanks
Great review and not a bunch of marketing hype
Are clinchers much easier to put on than tubeless tires? Btw I have the gp5000 tubeless and guest what, they are a pain in the ass to put on.
I must say that the 4000s are the best tire I have ever written. Are use a clincher of course. So when my 4000s were out I’m getting some 5000
Chris what size did you used in your own bike?
Hi Chris, What a wonderful blog, all the very best, keep up the great work, fully commended. Craig Murray
Thanks Craig!
Hmmm interesting. Wondering how they compare to the S-works? Switched from GP4000 to s-works because the grip was better with same puncture resistance. Hesitant to go back because the s-works have been so good. I’ve also heard some say the s-works has better grip than the 5000’s after running both 🤔.
All I can say is you would be tipping it pretty far over before you find any issues with the 5000s. Too be honest, I'm not really capable of finding that tipping point on them
5:35 You've a clean bike chain, but forgot the VCR head. The tape isn't rolling smoothly...
I’ve been riding the 4000’s for a few months. Never had so many punctures ever. Bought some 5000’s and waiting for them in the mail. Hope they out perform the 4000’s or it will be back to Vittoria.
Hi so how do the 5000s perform compared to the 4000s
Can you test the tubeless variant please. I use pro one tubeless
Yep will do once they hit the market. Don't think we will see them in Oz until January
I still have a couple of 4000s ll left I'm going to have to go through first, but I've always been please with the wearing and cut protection, always thought it was excellent and I ride on some very debris covered roads at times so I can't wait to put some 5000 on..
So far the 5000 have been just as durable as the 4000s, which is good news for riding debris. 👍
Great review and congratulations on the win for you guys!
Thanks Hampton. Stoked for Chris
Hey, very good review indeed & I totally agree. I always ran 4000's, now have done around 500 or 600 k's on the 5000's and am very impressed. I run 25mm on Shimano RS rims, which are a step down from the Durace's you run, but are the same "looking" rim. Only thing I have noticed of late, there must be a flat spot on either my front or rear, as it feels a bit lumpy or bumpy?! on smooth surfaces. I have a Merida Scultura 5000, run about 105 psi and weigh 79 kgs. I can't see any mark on the tyres, but I must have locked a brake at some stage. Is this likely to go back to smooth after a considerable amount of riding or could my wheels need truing? I haven't hit any noticeable pot holes or anything? (BTW that Bianchi - wow, that is a magnificent looking frame!)
Not sure if you got it sorted but it seems like you're running your tyres way too hard. I would consider dropping then to at least 90 psi and giving it a go. Potentially even lower. Unless you're riding on an indoor velodrome.
@@aussiefreediver hi & thx 4 your reply. Def 105psi was too much, I run around 92psi now and all is good! Thanks for your reply!!
@@aus80srockradio94 I was close!
Have just purchased a pair from 99Bikes, can't wait to fit them up, I did toss up mounting them tubeless But have had issues with my Scwalbe Pro Ones running tubeless so back to lightweight Conti Supersonic tubes seems to be best for me and the riding/racing I do. Will keep you posted on how they go. Cheers.
Thanks for that Dave. Yeh I was super tempted to run some latex inner tubes in these to get the full experience. Will let you know if I do and how they feel.
Just a quick update on these tyres, UNREAL!!! when fitted with the Conti Supersonic lightweight tubes they have better feel than my tubelss Scwalbe Pro one 28's and seem faster, fitting I thought was marginally harder than my previous Conti 4000's but still went on without levers. Running 90psi rear and 85psi front no marks, cuts or signs of damage, best tyre I have used to date, will now replace my Scwalbe Pro ones on Giant Defy with 28mm 5000's and run them tubeless for touring, Fondos and training. Cheers.
Hey David can I ask how the 28mm 5000’s go for clearance on your giant Defy? I used to run 28mm 4000’s on my giant Defy and there just wasn’t enough clearance to do it safely in my opinion. I’m now on a TCR and would love to run 28mm but am now running 25mm 4000’s as I’m too scared to run 28mm again due to the clearance issues. Thanks.
Hi Jeremy, I've actually fitted the 25mm 5000's to my Alloy Defy have tried 28mm 4000's but same as you not happy with the minimal clearance (about 1-2mm), have 28mm Scwalbe Pro One's on my carbon Defy but that is a disk brake version so no problems there. Will be changing the Scwalbe's to Conti 5000's in 28mm as soon as I can, not all that happy with the Scwalbe's . The Conti new 5000's in 25mm do appear a bit narrower than my previous 4000's in 25mm, so possibly the 28mm may also be narrower than the 28mm 4000's which measured 30mm on my Dura ace C24 rims. So far extremely happy with the new Conti 5000's in ride quality, handling and speed also lighter when combined with the lightweight Conti Supersonic tubes. Cheers.
@@jez0084 they are _substantially_ narrower than the 4000. I swapped out a 25 4k for a 5k and it's 2.1 mm narrower on the same rim by my calipers. I didn't have a 4000 in 28 but I also put on a 5000 28 on the back and it's 2mm narrower than a Hutchinson Fusion 5 in 28- and that itself is a narrow 28, I run it on the front on a bike that won't take a 28mm Schwalbe One.
Just (yesterday) changed to the GP 5000. Have ridden Vredestein and Durano +. Had quite a few punctures on them and looking forward to my new tires. Easy to install, and agree they look great on my Specialized Venge :-)
Which tyres would you prefer?
Pirelli p zero velo or conti gp5000?
Please reply
I use Challenge Strada open tubulars. With latex tubes the ride in a 25mm is sublime.... :)
Put these on my fixed gear and they’re nutty! The roll is crazy, also makes me pedal faster, therefore going faster. Maybe, just Maybe, a 300g+ weight saving on the tyres.
Now this was an awesome review...Imaginative, a bit creative, informative, useful, entertaining (with the racing), a bit of humor, answers questions etc. Seemed like not an infomercial and I hope it was not. It only needs another review when a lot more miles on it which is promised. Adding to enjoyment....I just purchased these online before watching this. Thanks.
Nice W. I think Coyle sums it up nicely, don’t fix what isn’t broken. I love the GP4000II. If they have one downfall it is that they do seem to pick up cuts in the sidewalls and small holes where I ride, which has plenty of little pieces of flint on the road, but I stick a patch inside and that seems to be fine. I was in the bike shop today and the GP5000 were on the shelf for £55, so quite a bit more. I wouldn’t pay the extra, but I’m sure they will be as good if not better. The only thing I don’t think they got right is the packaging. It’s almost all black now. I had to ask if they were in stock, so easy to look straight past them.
I live in Texas and have Continental Grand Prix 4000 s II tires in 700 x 25c on my Lemond Buenos Aires but yes, like you said, on sidewall cuts and also pinch flats.
I use 4000s all day everyday. They are fantastic until that first puncture. Once they have that first hole I find they have reached their service life and it's time to replace them, even if they still have plenty of meat left on them. Can't wait to try 5000s, but will wait for a price drop before I use them to commute on.
How many KMs are you tending to get before the punctures take over Damien?
@@ChrisMillerCycling I reckon 3500-4000, depending on how much road crap is around after rain. But as I think you mentioned, for the price they do everything for most people. I have a new set coming Monday, training for Alpine classic. Yay
Yeah I reckon tour spot on with that, I find that once the roundness starts to flatten the punctures come and they have to go. This is my only downside as that's 2 sets a year.
@@damienwalker1026
Chris have you tried Gatorskins for puncher resistance on training wheels? They dont look the best but in Alice Springs we have more broken glass then Bagdad
I used to ride them all the time (especially in Ireland), but too be honest when I moved to 4000s I didn't find the puncture protection to be all that different, and given the 4000s are a good bit faster, I never went back.
@@ChrisMillerCycling Good to know and thank you for the heads up.
Gatorskins can be a pig to get off when you do puncture and a lot heavier and slower than GP4000 II
@@darrenhill8503 you could also consider the Grand Prix 4 Season. Almost as good puncture protection as the Gatorskin but much better grip and faster rolling.
What psi do you put on these tires?
I learned that you’ll get less punctures on any tires if you put the correct psi.
I just replaced the stock tires on my 2020 Oltre XR3 Ultegra Disc with Continental 5000 and I can't wait to see and feel what the difference is.
Let us know, mate. I am just about to buy same model in day or two.
@@Furies-72 Did two rides (26 and 30 miles) and these tires are fantastic! They roll faster and handle exceptionally well. The problem I have now is, just bought a DT Swiss ERC100 DiCUT 47 Disc wheelset which will arrive next week and I am going to have to ride the non tubeless tires for a while on the new wheels. Oh well, first world problems, right :)
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Thanks, dude. Long rides I wish you :)
@@Furies-72 Thank you!
But will you go tubeless? I have Schwalbe Pro One Tubeless 25mm on my S-works Venge and I'm interested in going back to clinchers since tubeless tires are a pain to fit when they aren't new out of the box. Can you do a comparison between the tubeless conti and the clinchers?
Can we get an update of gp5000 vs Corsa
How do you take the video while ridding, and what camera do you use, thank you guys for the video, you guys are great. And i hope you guys will answer me! Im buying these tires tomorrow!
Hey Rico, I run a Sony RXO with a ride mic mini. I simply hand hold the camera to talk to it. Probably not the safest thing to do.
I'd like to see your take on these vs the budget ultra sports folding bead. I've got a 28mm set and they've been great but I'd like to know if it'd be worth the upgrade for performance gains to the 5000's
Hey man, I haven’t ridden the ultra sports, but my take on tires is less about performance and more about reliability and comfort. I know when I compared the MAXXIS refuse to the Open Roads, while the refuse were bulletproof the fact the Open Roads just made the whole experience of riding a bike more enjoyable had me leaning towards the more expensive options.
How does the 5000 compares to the Conti Grand Sport Race that also has puncture protection?
Thanks for your GREAT review! I just ordered 2 ea. 700x25 tubeless ones for my Cannondale System six with Knot 64 wheels. I ride daily to work and really rely upon my tires. I'm a big fella (230lbs) and run 120psi (rear) & 100 in the front. I also use "finish line" tire sealant.
I've seen you respond with this exact same comment on multiple gp5000 videos. Nobody cares about what kind of bike you say you ride. My god TH-cam commenters are so weird.
I ride GP4000s in the Reflex model, ie silver reflective sidewall with no logos. Much sleeker look without branding. Will the 5000 have this option? When riding an 80km return commute up the M2 and M7 performance matters more than a 5km inner-city trundle.
Dan M Nice tip! What colour is the reflective strip when it’s not reflecting. Looks white in some pics, grey in others... cheers!
thedownunderverse It’s silver. The tyres have no logos and I think they look great. And now that the 5000 is out they can be had for ~$45.
Pic: imgur.com/a/JIoK1Oj
Great Tip dan! I'll keep my eye out for them, as for decal options on the 5000s, I don't believe there are are variations at this stage. Though my guess is once we see the tubeless versions hit the market we will see some updates
Dan M It’s a shame they aren’t available in 23mm. My wheelsets (bora and shamal) are all 17c internal and I’ve found the 23mm Conti’s create the best profile/shape on this size of rim
thedownunderverse I have Zonda C17 (about a year old) and the 25s are great - mind you I’m a bigger guy.
How do you like the c24 wheels? Im looking at buying them. They are not crazy expensive now.
Been running 4000 for 2 years and I change them once I get a flat. In my experience they last between 4000 to 5000 Ks before a flat so these days I change at approx 4000 which means I get approx 1 flat per year⭐️⭐️⭐️. Can’t wait to hit 4000ks on existing ones so I can try the 5000s
Got the tubeless version, I’m getting threads peeling off from just above the wheel rim on both tyres both sides. ?
Retro Dude, Old man on his bikes I recommend the tube ones I have the tubeless they wear down too easy I had same prob as y
send a set down south to Melb... happy to test them in some real rain :P
nice vid mate
Haha!!! No worries, I'll send this set down after I do a few more laps of the M2 shoulder and subsequently rack it 😂
I put 6000km on a set of 25mm without a single issue.
Hi Chris. Continental tyres are slightly taller in profile(oval shaped) compared to most brands. Important because with close fitting frames the tyre may hit back of BB area or even fork crown.Is this the case with the 5000's?
Hey Oz. Ok so I've had a good look and I can honestly say they are actually a lower profile compared to the 4000s. I have a heap of clearance on the XR4, and that doesn't have a huge amount of space by rule.
How wide are they when they are inflated
@@robnewin Typically that depends in part on the width of the rim and how much air pressure you are running.
Great review Chris. Thanks!
Are they no good in the wet?
How’s the sidewall protection I wonder. I had worst experience with gp 400 side wall blow outs
i had exactly the same issue 3 sidewall blowouts
So did I ...
Hey Chris! A bit off topic here, but what saddle bag is that?
Just fitted these new from my bike, the feel very glossy and have more excess rubber in the middle of the tyre than any other i have ever used.
Should I do anything to break them in for riding?
Good review, Chris. Really motoring in the race! 👍
I have the GP 4000 S 2 and im definitely picking up the 5000 never will switch to another brand Contis are the best
Michael Upchurch imo specialized make great tires. Although I got the gp 5000s now and they’re great
These tires ride great...but sunlight kills them fast. 5 months old the entire tread already cracking on mine.
Great review, have 4000's on the summer bike so a good upgrade for next year. On a side note how was your switch from Apple. How you liking the TAG compared to the Apple Watch?
"summer bike" ... Oh I remember this chat, northern hemisphere life 😂. Ok so I am loving the pixel, I really wanted to go #fullGoogle with everything I do now in that environment. That said, getting out if the apple ecosystem has been tough. Android wear OS is very much a work in progress, but I love it's customisation
Are these tires true to size, meaning are the 28mm actually 28mm? Thanks
4:50 wow already racing the new Cervelo S5
What tyre pressure did you run Chris?
I'm a 90psi man, will drop to 80psi at Heffron though
As much as I loved the GP4000s tires in the past we have to get honest here: Continental has been *cutting corners* to achieve their tubeless tires!
The sidewalls aren't reinforced and their bead isn't hookless compatible. Essentially you're getting a normal tire that works with sealant. Many people on the forums and on Reddit have issues with these tires: damage on the fragile sidewalls runs them inoperable!
So *not* a proper tubeless tire!
Hey ... well done, Chris.
Chris - love your channel. What make is your helmet? Cheers
It's a Lazer Z1 James
Chris Miller Cycling thank you Chris. Do my best to share your vlogs. Stay safe out there
Thanks James, much appreciated
Hi Chris. Does the durability of 5000 is good or the same as 4000?
Hey Tom, in all honesty I'm finding the 5000s slightly less durable then the 4000. That said, I have only had 1 flat tyre and that was during the gravel and tar UCI race, that saw 40km of gravel riding. The reason I say they are less durable is just the rubber seems slightly more cut up then the 4000 would be.
@@ChrisMillerCycling I see thanks for sharing 👍
What size tire did you use for review? 25s or 23s?
25s Emilio
Does bro hold the camera 🎥 and ride with no hands 🙌? 😂
So do I have to unsubscribe then resubscribe to try win the hat 😂
Hope you get your 5000 for Xmas, subscribers that is.
Thanks Grahame. And I hope you get 5000km over the break 😁
I find Conti 4000s are overrated, other tires are underrated. Some great tires like Michelins, IRC and Panaracer etc out there. Will try the 5000s though, just because I haven't tired them yet.
Hey man, have never used Panaracer's, though I always found with the Michelins' they were so hard to get on to the rim, it tended to turn me off them.
@@ChrisMillerCycling I never found Michelins particularly hard to mount vs anything else, but I struggle with tubeless ready rims, may have evolved strong fingers. :-)
Bro the shoulder of the M2 is probably as good as the best roads where i ride.. wierd you call it the worst road to ride on.
How they compare to Vittoria speed
Don't know mate. Never ridden them, I'll see what I can do
Tried a bunch of different tires, but never tried the GP 4000's or 5000's
I have been so happy with the S-Works gripton , they feel great!!!! Why change I say, but must try the GP4000/5000 just in case :-)
great background song
Conti are great but you should investigate the effect of mustache on watts ;)
what width tyre did you test?
Never really been a Conti fan, as I run tubulars mostly and the Competition tyres are a HUGE hassle to put on, so I am a Veloflex fan. Contis were the standard some years ago for clinchers, but I do believe the other manufacturers have caught up. The new Graphene Vittorias are really good, especially the speed version, just magic, but you only get 1000km out of them. I don’t know about the 5000s but I always felt the 4000s a bit harsh on the ride.
How the fit on the rim go?
Hey Troy, really easy. Like I said in the video, easier then the 4000s, but not as easy as the vittorias
I still run Schwalbe Lugano but these could be my next go to
Bought some and the first ride felt great. Felt faster, smoother, and cornered well.
Hello what about puncture resitance?
Just recently purchased the GP5000 after 500kms, so far it rolls really well even in wet condition. Although I encountered a pinch flat it still does its job. 😃
Performance wise for me.It's a PR killer in Strava 😆
There a good tire but the more miles I put on them they start to wear down and start to drag I recommend them as a only race tire not a training tire
they allow bikes on highway?
On that motorway we can ride in the shoulder of the road. Too be honest it’s not much fun and has a huge amount of debris in it
how many Kms would you get out of these tyres? Anyone
Changed to a new set after 4,000kms. However we do have quite bad roads here in Malaysia :)
@@SSW2488 great thanks, ride safe buddy
@@shadigif8916 Thank you bro, you too 🙏
Wow! Unbelievable video.
The Conti gp 5000 tyres are crap. Your in Australia where the weather is much better. Try riding them on wet, muddy and pot hole strewn UK roads in the winter they are crap. I flatted from a piece of glass which left a slash about 15mm wide across the tyre on only the second ride on them. I've flatted a further twice on them since so that's 3 times in about six weeks, I only use the bike they are fitted to on my Sunday club rides. Every puncture has been in the back wheel. I'm going to give the Pirelli Cinturato velo ltr tyres ago I know their roling resistance is a lot higher 15 watts compared to 10 for the conti gp 5000 but I would rather be slower and not be flatting on nearly every ride as these are clearly not a winter tyre and I will get another gp 5000 tyre and run them with a tyre liner in the summer months when the roads are dryer and cleaner here in the UK. This is just my experience with them. The gp 4000s tyres are excellent thought I've done 1500 miles on those so far and not a single puncture or cut on them though those miles were all logged in the summer on nearly all dry fairly warm days only a couple of wet weather rides.
I got this tyre. Clincher of course. At first i did not expect much even though i’ve read and watched some review until recently i rode with my friends at night.
In that ride, i rode off glass, screws and light reflectors accidentally. And to my surprise the tyre held well. I was so sure my rim will cracked but i’m wrong. I’ll suggest anyone to go for this tyre
Easy to use like it cause it portable
Lets start a fund to fix the track. The Chinese didn't buy that part of Australia?
Hahah! We can't hit mix Heffron, think of all the poor bike shops that would go out of business
@@ChrisMillerCycling ha ha ha ha ha thats funny!
This bike was really easy to assemble th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
looks like centennial park to me 😂
Certainly is mate
4000 will always win until 5000 is cheaper...
I got mine for $45 usd each.
Mate - don't we spell Tire, Tyre 🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️
Trying to crack that lucrative American market 🇺🇸💲💲
They’re no Pirelli’s
Bella bici ........Bianchi made in itali