I have never seen such absent minded reloading. I was kind of impressed how he opened the box part way, knew exactly how much ammo from each box he needed and just dumped it out without skipping a beat. Maybe it's my "dain brammage" but I would at least have to count.
@@FruitSnackHorse With 250,000 manufactured during a time when mass production of automatic weapons was incredibly difficult it made a difference. It was also truly portable by an infantryman and could be fired from the hip for "walking fire". Neither the Germans nor the British nor anybody else had anything like that. The BAR was issued really late in the war and in small numbers. Bad compared to what exactly? WWII designs designed 20 odd years later? Quality light machine guns from the interwar years, made to high material standards that cost a fortune and never were common? The Ford Model T was a bad car too which was awfully crude and simplistic compared to other cars of its era. They were assembled by hired workers to do a simple job after all. However its appeal was that it was the first true affordable car. For most people it was a question of Ford Model T "tin lizzy" or walking or riding a tram if you lived in a large city. VHS home video? Same story. Probably the worst of the early home video systems and looking at it today one gasps in horror of how bad the quality was. But it was the cheapest and most affordable for people's needs. Context. Especially for WWI.
As a french gunsmith, Ian is actually the only one US antiques shooter that I applause when he try to speak a little bit of french. You can feel the respect of this man for the "gifle" xD
@@xmm-cf5eg honestly, the most problems I have with my magazines (Colt C7, basically a Canadian M16 we use in the Dutch military) is getting the damn magazine out of my pouch, especially while prone
Someone left a comment on one of these videos saying “POV: He’s a hitman who’s talking about the gun he’s gonna kill you with” and now I can’t stop laughing whenever I see these videos
Kenneth Mendenhall, II no I’ve been subbed for many years but sometimes i have to go look for new vids and then once in a while it’ll post new vids on my recommended feed. All the best to you and yours!
"walked into a door" "it's really a nice gun once you get to know it" Its ok Ian, you can tell us the chauchat is an abusive spouse, we're you're friends, this is a safe space.
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio Please. The MP-18 was a moderate at best capitulated former nation kind of gun. Out of all of the greatest submachine guns of that era and WW2 specifically, you pick the MP-18? What about the MP-40? Sten Gun? PPSh-41? Think of the guns that actually won battles, not the guns that were unsuccessfully used to defend Berlin at the end of the war.
@@veerta5703 He talked about, right before that, how they would start firing once the troops got so close that the hmgs had to stop firing. He's talking about hmgs, just phrased it a little weird
You know what's better than watching Ian talk about firearm history? Watching Ian talk about firearm history AND load magazines. I dunno why but this is very calming to me.
"Historically, they would wrap burlap or something around the back end of the gun to prevent themselves getting so beat up by it." *proceeds to do no such thing and voluntarily get beaten around by raw steel*
I can see why the magazines were so unreliable, trying to load those in a hurry you're bound to get some inserted badly, maybe warping the magazine during firing.
MarcAFK Go watch the Anvil video on these magazines at C&Rsenal. Mark shows the problems with these rounds and while the holes are not as terrible an idea as they appear (look where Ian’s fingers are).
Thanks to this episode I was able to identify the rifle my great great uncle was carrying in france in 1918. The photo I have was taken 3 weeks before he was killed in action
Similarly to your experience with the Chautchat here. The 'Home Guard Pocket Manual' specifies that the BAR 'The rifle is capable of a high rate of accurate fire when used as a single shot weapon. Owing to the difficulty in holding the weapon when firing bursts these should only be used in an emergency'. Later on in the war the use of bursts was banned even in emergencies.
I have a feeling that Ian can walk backwards, while chewing gum, loading cartridges into magazines and still carry on an intelligent, well paced discussion on Chauchat battle tactics.
it is wonderful to see the gun..but to hear..the voice of the gun and know that voice was heard on those long ago battlefields..is awesome something you cannot get in a museum..thanks for posting
I think its because of its really damn slow cyclic rate. You can hear every shot distinctly, and its got the fire rate of an automatic cannon, lending it the sound of a much larger weapon. Could also be the fact he's shooting in a rocky valley. The sound is echoing and reverberating all around the rocks.
When designing this gun did they purposefully make it sound more intimidating? Because this thing sounds like it was made not only to kill, but to instill fear into the enemy.
@@TheRealDill93 but the difference with the MG42, is that it’s not inherently designed to sound intimidating. It sounds intimidating due to the insane ROF
Context is everything. Keep in mind that until the BAR entered combat six weeks before the war ended, the Chauchat was the BEST automatic weapon that could actually be fired during the assault. I love my Lewis, and have shoulder-fired it. But it takes three hands to hold the gun up and also change the magazine. With the sling hook on a Chauchat, changing mags for one person while walking or standing is no big deal. Excellent video as always, Ian.
imagine a full episode of Ian just talking about a gun while loading magazines with ammo. the Bob Ross of the gun world except of a calming voice with masterful painting, it's a calming voice with the soft yet elegant sound of knowledge and ammo being slid home in a mag. i'd listen to that anyday.
I've been fortunate enough to snag a few boxes here and there, although I'd love to have even that empty brass. No. I don't reload 8mm Lebel. It gets cut down to load for the Swiss Vetterli.
@ I've been looking at a Verteli and I have to go through gunbroker since no one even has one in my area, in your opinion is it worth it, I love the mechanics but I also want a gun that will run, I don't just want a case queen and are parts easy to get?
They used to advertise a conversion kit to change Vetterli bolt from rim to central fire. Are they still made? Lots of Swiss Vetterlis in US sold as surplus. 1903 Sears catalogue even listed them. American ammo companies listed round to about WW2 era, and importers advertised round up to late 1960's, Fiocchi production. Rifles still readily available at larger gun shows, usually $2-300, US for uncut examples. Ammo options, even with a conversion, would be great.
Lovely video. When counting your hits Ian, just remember all those bits of research about how many bullets it took for each kill in various wars. As has been said already, many of those near misses would have me eating dirt, filling my pants, and generally keeping my head down. Brill video, thank you.
When I first joined the army, we had the SLR (the British version of the FN FAL) and we were excited to get the SA80 as it had a full auto option. After not much time once we were first equipped with the SA80 and LSW, we figured out that rapid semi-auto fire was nearly always the better choice than full auto - both weapons were far more manageable and far more accurate with rapid "single taps". We did use full auto for certain operations, suppressing fire as you mentioned being a good example, but even then you may well be better off using very rapid single shots. As an aside, many of my colleagues preferred the SLR to the SA80, but I really liked it. Also, that thing looks like a beast to shoot, rather you than me :-)
Oh, the suffering you go through to enlighten us, Ian! 😀 It is really, REALLY cool to actually see a Chauchat in operation, and to learn how it was best employed. We all wish we could be out there bruising our cheeks alongside you. Thanks!
I had a Glock pistol. It was awesome. My only gripe is that the magazine was always empty after I loaded and shot the gun. I plan on buying one in the future. Cheers from America.
Hi Ian, glad to have the opportunity to watch this, as a retired jarhead, have plenty of time behind automatic weapons, and a bit of a collector, have a number of interesting examples. I have a 53 A-5, Belgian, my grandfather treated himself to, upon retiring, handed down, and a dozen or so various Remington model 8's, 25, through 35, and 300 Savage, and I noted firing that Chauchat recoils similar to the model eight's, with the difference being, the muzzle drops as the open bolt closes, as the model eight does, but not firing, one can get the sights well aligned, and the recoil is comfortable, controllable, in a way the Chauchat can't, because of said open bolt. I spent a good bit of time of my career, considering the value of open versus closed bolt, and while often wishing for the other, in short moments, have long realized the advantage of "good first burst on target", of the closed bolts. Of course the 7.5 French is a full power cartridge, which the model eight's are short of, but that is as close a comparison I have, with that automatic rifle. I have long enjoyed the slow motion video of weapons, gaining substantial insight in operation, wear, and breakage, and would like to see such with the Remington model eights, I have a pretty good feel for the cycling action, but seeing it is far more. Thanks for a good display of capability. Semper Fidelis, John McClain
I've watched so many videos from you and you know what I realized today....I never subscribed! Such a good channel, so much great information, and just a great way to geek out with some guns
The sound of that puppy! The way it echoes makes every shot sound like a thunder clap. I'm surprised you didn't have more feed issues, honestly, but I guess you were being pretty ginger with those mags.
As a french, i well know that weapon. That was , with the sublight danish machine gun Madsen, the 2nd light portative full automatic. That weapon has been developped in urge to support fast trench offensives. That meaning the CRSG 15 Chauchat had a lot backwards. Mud and sand on trenches had a bad results on resilience. On the german side, they modified theirs Maxims to get the "portative "model 08-15 ( 17.7kg / 38 Lbs ) Vs ( 8,7kg / 18 Lbs ) for a Chauchat. Thank you very much for posting that awesome vid.
8mm Lebel is nothing to scoff at. Remember, the US version fired 30-06... Ian may have not scored a lot of hits on his cardboard Germans, but I really don't believe he'd need more than one... or even a ricochet...
@@geraldmahle9833 Well... It was jungle... they were not shooting at targets... more like shooting at fear and ghosts. Wherever the M-16 was designed to fight, I'm sure the jungles of south-east Asia was the literal opposite. :(
Never new about the Chauchat , until watching this channel, yet alone the world of different firearms from different countries and the many different calibers .
Twas single feed, and lo did He loadeth the magazine. And in loading He did preach the gospel of firepower and verily did He expend his magazine upon the heathens.
@@huawietelcom4516 it’s closest to Shakespearian English. Old English sounds like the bastard child of welsh and German, and Middle English is what the Canterbury tales are written in
Today I learned three things: 1. Ian loading magazines and calmly explaining history, operational procedures and the likes is one of the most relaxing things ever. 2. How it feels to be woken up by Chauchat gun fire. 3. Sony does make incredible headphones.
I am pleasantly surprised at the low number of "only dropped once" derogatory comments, this time. Thank you Ian, for using your CSRG m1915 to explain the intended use and tactics of the Chauchat. (:
Depending on whether you'd lived through a no man's land bayonet charging of either your, or the enemies trench, I think they'd think they'd just got their hearing back
I love these things. Many years ago, the talk about this gun was it was a really bad weapon. I think a lot of that came from the rechambering it to American ammo, or the open mags, which was valid. The gun itself is fantastic when it's running right. That slow fire rate actually made this smaller magazine a lot more effective that something like a B.A.R. later on (B.A.R. came out in '18 I believe, after the war ended).. but made for similar roles. It seems to make a suppression effort last a lot longer with that loud, booming and slow but still fast _enough_ firing rate. Yeah, I'd love to have one of these.
Yeah and not to forget that the point of this gun was to be made in big numbers, instead of taking time developing a small number of moderately pricey machine gun, let's develop a cheap one fast and equip everyone with it now ! In WW1 setting it's actually not a stupid choice since you don't expect most of the guys you send to capture that trench to survive. And to suppress Hans in his trench, while walking, you don't need a sophisticated heavy gun, just something that can send lead in his direction. And lastly, I'd like to add that due to the fact that they were produced in pretty big numbers, since they were so cheap and all, a lot of soldiers could carry it which gave an impressive firepower and suppressive effect, when you've got 20 Chauchat shooting and coming your way with their slow loud distinct sound, it's scarier and more effective than one belt fed machine gun in the trench 300 yards away.
Uh, not so sure. The reports were that the bipods and magazines were easily bent and in fact the entire gun was easily bent, which would be pretty awful if it happened in combat. Also, the upper and lower could separate causing the sear to not engage and thus cause the gun to run away.
@@ostiariusalpha Not in 1915-1917 because there were *none* around. And by 1918 there weren't 250,000 BAR's either. In a long war of attrition quantity is a quality of its own.
Funny because that's exactly how I use the Chauchat in BF1. I use it as a semi auto rifle with the support class. Hands down best strategy for BF1. Works like a charm.
I enjoy playing BF1 (most of the time). I do think more could’ve been added though, like what I wanted for a long time, a new cavalry primary. I just think the M1895 (Russian) Cavalry is very ineffective. I would’ve been fine if they added a few tanker/pilot weapons to that class. I also like the M1915 Chauchat, but the most kills for me is the Parabellum MG14/17.
Such a monstrous sounding weapon!! That deep bass thuuooommmm!!!! love it!! In person Im betting this is FAAAARRR LOUDER than the video could possibly present!@@
Yes, the assistant gunner / loader had the keep fresh magazines ready, in a carrying pouch till needed ( to keep clean and protected ). Though generally they were not supposed to be reloading on the move or under direct fire. The magazines came preloaded ( as Ian mentioned in the video ).
I fired a Sho-Sho once in the trenches of Shimpstown PA and it was amazing!!! The way it seemed the entire bolt assembly just slammed back and forth was so cool......until it jammed!!!🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Thanks to present in the same time French UBAS with Daguet pattern. Impressive that you get an official one and not a copy (I mean in the US). Very good and nice video !
It was also used with the BAR. The fact the Chauchat was a semi-auto in addition to an AR was key in the pre-Grand US Army and USMC . . . . Great insight.
Looks like Ian got a little taste of "la giffle" with his red cheekbone, I understand why he said soldiers put some cloth on the back of the receiver now
R. Lee Ermey once demonstrated walking fire with a BAR. He used a metal purpose-built cup attached to his belt to provide a third point of contact for the weapon. Ian, have you had the chance to see or use this?
Well he also wasn't in real WWI conditions, in the mud and dirt of the trenches, these were horrible, part of that had to do with the mags... being open on both sides like that allowed a lot of mud and dirt to get into the mags and the gun. In the trenches, these jammed constantly. Some of our guys gave it the nickname chaushit.
Jonathan H Without those holes in the magazine loading them is a nightmare. Because of the shape of 8mm Lebel, the magazines have to have the ridiculous curvature, and shoving rounds around that corner, both loading and when shooting is a serious struggle for the spring. Officially the rounds were rated for 20 rounds. C&Rsenal’s testing shows they had to be downloaded to 18 to feed reliably, and their analysis of photographs shows most of the photographed magazines in combat areas had only 18 rounds. You may not like the gun, but there is a logic to these decisions. Don’t forget the goal was to crank out as many of these guns as quickly as possible.
Ian repeatedly getting slapped in the face by his weird french Grilfriend
He's going to start smoking cigarettes and reading existentialist literature now.
@@gfarrell80 And only smoking Gauloises
I married a French Canadian girl, can confirm however I haven't messed up bad enough yet to get slapped ....."yet"......
Some like it rough
@sulivanmagnum ,maybe something more fashionable, like YSL cigarettes ..
“Ambient Ian loading chauchat magazines to study/chill to”
I think yer on to somethin...
I have never seen such absent minded reloading. I was kind of impressed how he opened the box part way, knew exactly how much ammo from each box he needed and just dumped it out without skipping a beat. Maybe it's my "dain brammage" but I would at least have to count.
tshch chhhsh
You know those are rimmed rounds and he just casually loads them and clears some rimlocks as he tells how ww1 tactics went. Jeesh!
@@Sevensixtytwo Whilst handling the horrible double taper of 8mm lebel like a pro.
When a dude can give you a history lesson while filling several magazines of an obsolete machine gun, you'd best listen to him.
Turner Mayo. Amen.
Let's write or picture a new "history of violence" Gun jesus advising Kronenberg or something approaching
Me watching him fill 3 magazines from a rifle history wants to forget. Bet those magazine are worth more than an average rifle nowadays...
Couldn't agree with you more
@@CapnHolic Why forget ? France won WWI.
Chauchat: slaps Gun Jesus in the face
Gun Jesus: * turns the other cheek *
This is the greatest meme of all time
*white* gun jesus
@@Deadassbruhfrfr fair point
Nice one
Holy crap! That's some creative funny shit!
"It's a good gun once you get to know it" "it looks like I walked into a door" is ian in an abusive relationship with the chauchat?
pretty much since he is the only one who seems to like the damn thing :)
@@gusty9053 well he's the only one who loves it so much he got it fully restored through anvil gun smithing and replica mags in modern day steel
yes, we need an intervention!!! right now this has to stop!!!
but please don't because I love watching it
brandito the ak guy He’s a Francophile so he has to defend the gun.
It only hurts you because it loves you.
Jesus, the sound of that gun firing as like a cannon. The echo really is something.
Did those poor chaps get any hearing protection, doubt it
Journey awaits Ian is wearing earplugs, he tends to be pretty responsible with hearing protection
That beast has a real mean sound to it. Imagine youre just some poor german conscript and someone starts mag dumping you with that.
I don't know why i expected a different sound but holy fuck. That thing scared right from the first shot! Devestating
@@idbestshutup I think they were referring to the guys who used these in war.
Ian will have it written on his grave "The chauchat wasn't that bad"
It wasn't that bad, but it was bad.
His grave will only have two words “gun Jesus” and 3 days later he will rise riding on a tank
@Kurogane -sensei No. That tank isn't obscure enough
@@FruitSnackHorse With 250,000 manufactured during a time when mass production of automatic weapons was incredibly difficult it made a difference. It was also truly portable by an infantryman and could be fired from the hip for "walking fire". Neither the Germans nor the British nor anybody else had anything like that. The BAR was issued really late in the war and in small numbers.
Bad compared to what exactly? WWII designs designed 20 odd years later? Quality light machine guns from the interwar years, made to high material standards that cost a fortune and never were common?
The Ford Model T was a bad car too which was awfully crude and simplistic compared to other cars of its era. They were assembled by hired workers to do a simple job after all. However its appeal was that it was the first true affordable car. For most people it was a question of Ford Model T "tin lizzy" or walking or riding a tram if you lived in a large city.
VHS home video? Same story. Probably the worst of the early home video systems and looking at it today one gasps in horror of how bad the quality was. But it was the cheapest and most affordable for people's needs.
Context. Especially for WWI.
@@FruitSnackHorse which in a war like the one it was in, bad made AWFUL
As a french gunsmith, Ian is actually the only one US antiques shooter that I applause when he try to speak a little bit of french. You can feel the respect of this man for the "gifle" xD
To be fair, Ian is trying to learn the French language, he just has so many projects.
Bon chance
@@williestyle35 It's just amazing, some of my colleagues here have met him, they all say it's a nice guy.
Tango919 ,I have heard that Ian is polite and genuinely nice from people on here.
Thanks for your reply.
Joyeux Noël
@@williestyle35 I heard that too! Joyeux noël à vous aussi! :)
merci beaucoup
(:
I love that he is pretty much the most experienced person in the modern world with this thing and he still fumbles, putting in the goofy magazine.
A hundred year old goofy magazine
You're meant to have a team manning the thing which includes a loader.
Quick magazine loading that doesn't look cumbersome or sloppy is an art...
..An art I can't see anyone perfecting on a Chau.
@@xmm-cf5eg honestly, the most problems I have with my magazines (Colt C7, basically a Canadian M16 we use in the Dutch military) is getting the damn magazine out of my pouch, especially while prone
Remco den Ouden extracting magazines while prone is problem that I think exists with every gun (well, at least with those that I had experience with).
Someone left a comment on one of these videos saying “POV: He’s a hitman who’s talking about the gun he’s gonna kill you with” and now I can’t stop laughing whenever I see these videos
Open up TH-cam and this is the first thing in my recommended. The algorithms did something good for once.
Yup I have had the same experience recently. Weird huh
You mean you're not subscribed??
Your algorithms have been blessed by Gun Jesus himself
@@kennethmendenhallii1598
I am but never get notifications.
Kenneth Mendenhall, II no I’ve been subbed for many years but sometimes i have to go look for new vids and then once in a while it’ll post new vids on my recommended feed.
All the best to you and yours!
The fact that the fun is 100+ years old and it still works is incredible
"walked into a door" "it's really a nice gun once you get to know it"
Its ok Ian, you can tell us the chauchat is an abusive spouse, we're you're friends, this is a safe space.
There are things you can do, places you can go, people you can talk to. I hear the Shvarslosa is a nice mg?
@@proteus2103 Schwarzlose
We are you are friends?
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio Please. The MP-18 was a moderate at best capitulated former nation kind of gun. Out of all of the greatest submachine guns of that era and WW2 specifically, you pick the MP-18? What about the MP-40? Sten Gun? PPSh-41? Think of the guns that actually won battles, not the guns that were unsuccessfully used to defend Berlin at the end of the war.
@@f-35alightningii79 Um I want to point out that he said WW1 not WW2 also the MP-18 wasn’t used in WW2 but the MP28, an similar gun, was.
“Make it sound like they are still under artillery bombardment” now how could a gun do tha- Oh that’s how
Sound like a damn flak gun
Under heavy machine gun fire
@@lucistired 1:12
@@veerta5703 He talked about, right before that, how they would start firing once the troops got so close that the hmgs had to stop firing. He's talking about hmgs, just phrased it a little weird
@@lucistired no it was to make them think they were under artillery barrage so the defenders wouldn’t look up the wording was fine
Still sounds like a 20/30mm cannon firing to me. Beastly.
Speaking about that specific abridged series, the voice actress for Seras is a "man" now.
Bitches love cannons. Man or woman.
@Apu Take me with you
@@xmm-cf5eg She used to be called Jessi Nowack, what is he now?
Shutup Seras u just broke an u just hatin
Watching Ian put that much 8mm lebel into the magazines makes my wallet cry
$1.40 per round. Ouch!
@@mortson978 Where did he buy them ?
@@Drivinginthe30s probably not in a store
exactly
You know what's better than watching Ian talk about firearm history? Watching Ian talk about firearm history AND load magazines. I dunno why but this is very calming to me.
It’s hella comfy
It's like watching Bob Ross paint on tv. "We'll just put this happy little cartridge here."
The desert panorama is also a nice touch
Its so strange since hes so calm, and hes talking about hitting a trench.
@@painmagnet1 "There are no malfunctions. Just happy little mistakes."
Me: "Ian, who punched you in the eye?"
Ian: "my Chauchat did this"
Me: "uh huh... sure...."
Domestic violence shouldnt be ignored!
Oh good, I always get some pesky MG08/15 nests in my backyard in winter and I was wondering how to get rid of them.
Artillery strike is more... certain to solve any MG problem you face.
(:
Anything would be better than the Chauchat for such an endeavor...
I just use my Zip .22
Ha! My eoka pistol gets the job done just fine!
Nice name
"Historically, they would wrap burlap or something around the back end of the gun to prevent themselves getting so beat up by it."
*proceeds to do no such thing and voluntarily get beaten around by raw steel*
For I tell you the truth, if your rifle strikes you upon the cheek with it's fierce recoil, turn to it the other cheek
Knowing Ian and french guns, hes probably into it
There’s something really nice and satisfying about watching you load the magazines. Nice touch
I agree!
Comfy
I can see why the magazines were so unreliable, trying to load those in a hurry you're bound to get some inserted badly, maybe warping the magazine during firing.
Really soothing,
almost zen like in fact.
MarcAFK Go watch the Anvil video on these magazines at C&Rsenal. Mark shows the problems with these rounds and while the holes are not as terrible an idea as they appear (look where Ian’s fingers are).
Thanks to this episode I was able to identify the rifle my great great uncle was carrying in france in 1918. The photo I have was taken 3 weeks before he was killed in action
"Im Ian and today we are out at the range with my girlfriend"
"She is very nice once you get to know her"
\*gets slapped in the right cheek*
_"Baby why you always gotta make me hit you you know I love you"_
This is clearly an abusive relationship that needs to end.
8mm slap
Further proof that French girls like to play rough.
@@Brigand231 no
Similarly to your experience with the Chautchat here. The 'Home Guard Pocket Manual' specifies that the BAR 'The rifle is capable of a high rate of accurate fire when used as a single shot weapon. Owing to the difficulty in holding the weapon when firing bursts these should only be used in an emergency'. Later on in the war the use of bursts was banned even in emergencies.
I have a feeling that Ian can walk backwards, while chewing gum, loading cartridges into magazines and still carry on an intelligent, well paced discussion on Chauchat battle tactics.
Obscure antique magazines at that
it is wonderful to see the gun..but to hear..the voice of the gun and know that voice was heard on those long ago battlefields..is awesome something you cannot get in a museum..thanks for posting
WHY DOES THIS THING SOUND LIKE THE FIST OF GOD
I think its because of its really damn slow cyclic rate. You can hear every shot distinctly, and its got the fire rate of an automatic cannon, lending it the sound of a much larger weapon. Could also be the fact he's shooting in a rocky valley. The sound is echoing and reverberating all around the rocks.
Besides it's no 22lr, the ammo, combined with the reverberations of the area.
Because it's a 30-06, it's not a small round.
@@JonathanH1253 This is a French one in 8mm Lebel. The .30-06 version just didn't work, period.
@@yankeelongshoreman9113 either way, both 30-06 and 8mm lebel are pretty beefy rounds when compared to 5.56 NATO...
When designing this gun did they purposefully make it sound more intimidating? Because this thing sounds like it was made not only to kill, but to instill fear into the enemy.
By all Accounts..Yes.
Mg42 says hi. Lol
@@TheRealDill93 but the difference with the MG42, is that it’s not inherently designed to sound intimidating. It sounds intimidating due to the insane ROF
With all the artillery of ww1, i don't think this was the louder sound on the field
re chambers it to 50 cal earthexplodes
Chauchat, top contender for non-scoped rifle that gives scope eye
Context is everything. Keep in mind that until the BAR entered combat six weeks before the war ended, the Chauchat was the BEST automatic weapon that could actually be fired during the assault. I love my Lewis, and have shoulder-fired it. But it takes three hands to hold the gun up and also change the magazine. With the sling hook on a Chauchat, changing mags for one person while walking or standing is no big deal. Excellent video as always, Ian.
Can Ian do a podcast where he just talks while loading chauchet magazines, it was oddly satisfying
He s amazingly adept at doing it. He must have practiced.
It’s very calming
He must be a reincarnated WW1 veteran -- amongst other things 💂🏻♀️
imagine a full episode of Ian just talking about a gun while loading magazines with ammo. the Bob Ross of the gun world except of a calming voice with masterful painting, it's a calming voice with the soft yet elegant sound of knowledge and ammo being slid home in a mag. i'd listen to that anyday.
We now know where most pf Privi-Partizan's US stash of 8mm Lebel ammo goes.
Was that even a question?
I've been fortunate enough to snag a few boxes here and there, although I'd love to have even that empty brass.
No. I don't reload 8mm Lebel. It gets cut down to load for the Swiss Vetterli.
your are surprised ?
@ I've been looking at a Verteli and I have to go through gunbroker since no one even has one in my area, in your opinion is it worth it, I love the mechanics but I also want a gun that will run, I don't just want a case queen and are parts easy to get?
They used to advertise a conversion kit to change Vetterli bolt from rim to central fire. Are they still made?
Lots of Swiss Vetterlis in US sold as surplus. 1903 Sears catalogue even listed them. American ammo companies listed round to about WW2 era, and importers advertised round up to late 1960's, Fiocchi production. Rifles still readily available at larger gun shows, usually $2-300, US for uncut examples. Ammo options, even with a conversion, would be great.
5:26 that shell ejected..... said nope.... and flew back into the chamber......
WOW....
never seen one make it that far out before going back in
Dunno why but watching Ian load the mags is so satisfying/entertaining itself. Add gun Jesus’ preaching and it’s a perfect video.
Definitely needs to be a thing. Quite soothing listening to the Holy One as he goes about his good work.
This weapon *truly* brings to life the terms "banana clip" and "yeet cannon."
It’s a croissant
It’s a mag...i think
@@loganjefferies3927 banana clip is a colloquial term used by real cool gangstas
@@octopussmasher2694 just like “aimer” lmao
Thing sounds like a cannon on the tape!
With as much as it made him move.... it acts like a cannon too :)
For all the issues with both the Chauchat and the 8mm Lebel cartridge, they do make and impressive sounding combo.
... a YEET cannon.
3Eighties Opinion that would be the short term for videotape. Now a days we just call it a video as we no longer use video “tape” in modern cameras
@@3eightiesopinion524 I'm a geezer! It just slipped out. I cut my teeth on Kodachrome and Super8. Cut me some slack! ( : < )
I love how this gun says it's own name on every shot.
It definitely has a unique, almost cannon like, sounds.
Lovely video. When counting your hits Ian, just remember all those bits of research about how many bullets it took for each kill in various wars. As has been said already, many of those near misses would have me eating dirt, filling my pants, and generally keeping my head down. Brill video, thank you.
*chauchat beats up Ian's right cheek in full auto*
Me, sobbing: "Stop! Stop! He's already dead"
Don't worry, he'll be back in three days...
Idk what anyone says, the Chauchat will always be one of my favorite WW1 firearms, as absured of a gun as it is, damn if it don't look good.
The sound of that 8mm echoing around the hills is pretty damn cool
Watching you load mags and talking history at the same time is extremely satisfying. Of course, the shooting is always fun as well :)
Shooting that gun seems brutal. Thanks for putting up with it. Loved the full auto
When I first joined the army, we had the SLR (the British version of the FN FAL) and we were excited to get the SA80 as it had a full auto option. After not much time once we were first equipped with the SA80 and LSW, we figured out that rapid semi-auto fire was nearly always the better choice than full auto - both weapons were far more manageable and far more accurate with rapid "single taps". We did use full auto for certain operations, suppressing fire as you mentioned being a good example, but even then you may well be better off using very rapid single shots.
As an aside, many of my colleagues preferred the SLR to the SA80, but I really liked it.
Also, that thing looks like a beast to shoot, rather you than me :-)
Oh, the suffering you go through to enlighten us, Ian! 😀 It is really, REALLY cool to actually see a Chauchat in operation, and to learn how it was best employed. We all wish we could be out there bruising our cheeks alongside you. Thanks!
The sound of that thing is incredibly satisfying.
5:20 - brass made a BLOOP back in reciever. Nice video btw!
5:26
Brass became a pinball ball :D
Did it bounce off the sight?
That's some great design right there
"I before e except after C".
Many Europeans love your channel.
Please more of that in 2020.
Merry Christmas greetings from Austria.
The home of Steyr, Mannlicher and Glock ... etc
I had a Glock pistol. It was awesome. My only gripe is that the magazine was always empty after I loaded and shot the gun. I plan on buying one in the future.
Cheers from America.
Also home of Hitler and Mozart. Love austria. I think you say 'voll geil oida' :- )
Whenever you see Ian with his World War One cap on you know its going to be a good video.
That modern combat top tho...
Hi Ian, glad to have the opportunity to watch this, as a retired jarhead, have plenty of time behind automatic weapons, and a bit of a collector, have a number of interesting examples. I have a 53 A-5, Belgian, my grandfather treated himself to, upon retiring, handed down, and a dozen or so various Remington model 8's, 25, through 35, and 300 Savage, and I noted firing that Chauchat recoils similar to the model eight's, with the difference being, the muzzle drops as the open bolt closes, as the model eight does, but not firing, one can get the sights well aligned, and the recoil is comfortable, controllable, in a way the Chauchat can't, because of said open bolt.
I spent a good bit of time of my career, considering the value of open versus closed bolt, and while often wishing for the other, in short moments, have long realized the advantage of "good first burst on target", of the closed bolts. Of course the 7.5 French is a full power cartridge, which the model eight's are short of, but that is as close a comparison I have, with that automatic rifle.
I have long enjoyed the slow motion video of weapons, gaining substantial insight in operation, wear, and breakage, and would like to see such with the Remington model eights, I have a pretty good feel for the cycling action, but seeing it is far more. Thanks for a good display of capability. Semper Fidelis,
John McClain
That thing sounds like a autocannon firing on automatic.
I've watched so many videos from you and you know what I realized today....I never subscribed! Such a good channel, so much great information, and just a great way to geek out with some guns
The sound of that puppy! The way it echoes makes every shot sound like a thunder clap. I'm surprised you didn't have more feed issues, honestly, but I guess you were being pretty ginger with those mags.
I think this is my favorite report of any gun. Hits all the right notes. It's like metal thunder.
I was gonna say! The M-60 used to be my favorite, but I think I have a new favorite now… lol
My god that thing sounds powerful. That is a seriously amazing firing sound.
As a french, i well know that weapon. That was , with the sublight danish machine gun Madsen, the 2nd light portative full automatic.
That weapon has been developped in urge to support fast trench offensives. That meaning the CRSG 15 Chauchat had a lot backwards.
Mud and sand on trenches had a bad results on resilience. On the german side, they modified theirs Maxims to get the "portative "model 08-15
( 17.7kg / 38 Lbs ) Vs ( 8,7kg / 18 Lbs ) for a Chauchat.
Thank you very much for posting that awesome vid.
They’ve got such an evil thump sound to them haven’t they, hearing that must have been so intimidating never mind what’s shooting out of it
8mm Lebel is nothing to scoff at. Remember, the US version fired 30-06...
Ian may have not scored a lot of hits on his cardboard Germans, but I really don't believe he'd need more than one... or even a ricochet...
@@GigAnonymous Realistically in a combat scenario a 10 percent hit rate is doing really really well
@@therideneverends1697 For real. Just check out the hit rate of the 5.56 in Vietnam. It was somewhere around several thousand rounds per hit.
@@geraldmahle9833 Well... It was jungle... they were not shooting at targets... more like shooting at fear and ghosts. Wherever the M-16 was designed to fight, I'm sure the jungles of south-east Asia was the literal opposite. :(
I love the sound of the Chauchat. Every video of one makes it sound amazing!
Not a weapon I have any desire to shoot, but we all appreciate your cheekbone's sacrifice for our viewing pleasure, Ian.
Never new about the Chauchat , until watching this channel, yet alone the world of different firearms from different countries and the many different calibers .
Twas single feed, and lo did He loadeth the magazine. And in loading He did preach the gospel of firepower and verily did He expend his magazine upon the heathens.
And lo, two and a third of his supply did miss the mark
old english was better in many ways
@@huawietelcom4516 that’s not old English
@@huawietelcom4516 it’s closest to Shakespearian English. Old English sounds like the bastard child of welsh and German, and Middle English is what the Canterbury tales are written in
Looks like a good time.
Thank you for filming this.
That thing sounds like a beast.
Damn, 8mm Lebel always sounds like someone beating in a car hood with a sledgehammer!
Today I learned three things:
1. Ian loading magazines and calmly explaining history, operational procedures and the likes is one of the most relaxing things ever.
2. How it feels to be woken up by Chauchat gun fire.
3. Sony does make incredible headphones.
TH-cam captions when Ian fires the Chauchat:
*[Music]*
Not wrong
Music to my ears
I am pleasantly surprised at the low number of "only dropped once" derogatory comments, this time. Thank you Ian, for using your CSRG m1915 to explain the intended use and tactics of the Chauchat.
(:
The gun sounds like a tank firing.
imagine hearing this firing at you when storming a trench.
Depending on whether you'd lived through a no man's land bayonet charging of either your, or the enemies trench, I think they'd think they'd just got their hearing back
that sound is so unique, always put a smile on my face
I love these things. Many years ago, the talk about this gun was it was a really bad weapon. I think a lot of that came from the rechambering it to American ammo, or the open mags, which was valid. The gun itself is fantastic when it's running right. That slow fire rate actually made this smaller magazine a lot more effective that something like a B.A.R. later on (B.A.R. came out in '18 I believe, after the war ended).. but made for similar roles. It seems to make a suppression effort last a lot longer with that loud, booming and slow but still fast _enough_ firing rate. Yeah, I'd love to have one of these.
Yeah and not to forget that the point of this gun was to be made in big numbers, instead of taking time developing a small number of moderately pricey machine gun, let's develop a cheap one fast and equip everyone with it now !
In WW1 setting it's actually not a stupid choice since you don't expect most of the guys you send to capture that trench to survive.
And to suppress Hans in his trench, while walking, you don't need a sophisticated heavy gun, just something that can send lead in his direction.
And lastly, I'd like to add that due to the fact that they were produced in pretty big numbers, since they were so cheap and all, a lot of soldiers could carry it which gave an impressive firepower and suppressive effect, when you've got 20 Chauchat shooting and coming your way with their slow loud distinct sound, it's scarier and more effective than one belt fed machine gun in the trench 300 yards away.
A good BAR man could maul a Chauchat gunner.
Uh, not so sure. The reports were that the bipods and magazines were easily bent and in fact the entire gun was easily bent, which would be pretty awful if it happened in combat. Also, the upper and lower could separate causing the sear to not engage and thus cause the gun to run away.
@@bb5242 Uhh, can I ask where in hell you picked all that up? It just doesn't have the ring of truth. Did it come from an inquiry or something?
@@ostiariusalpha Not in 1915-1917 because there were *none* around. And by 1918 there weren't 250,000 BAR's either. In a long war of attrition quantity is a quality of its own.
Anything with the chauchat is an instant watch! Keep it up Ian!
Funny because that's exactly how I use the Chauchat in BF1. I use it as a semi auto rifle with the support class. Hands down best strategy for BF1. Works like a charm.
I enjoy playing BF1 (most of the time). I do think more could’ve been added though, like what I wanted for a long time, a new cavalry primary. I just think the M1895 (Russian) Cavalry is very ineffective. I would’ve been fine if they added a few tanker/pilot weapons to that class. I also like the M1915 Chauchat, but the most kills for me is the Parabellum MG14/17.
Such a monstrous sounding weapon!! That deep bass thuuooommmm!!!! love it!! In person Im betting this is FAAAARRR LOUDER than the video could possibly present!@@
Man the reload guys must of been artisans of their craft.
Yes, the assistant gunner / loader had the keep fresh magazines ready, in a carrying pouch till needed ( to keep clean and protected ). Though generally they were not supposed to be reloading on the move or under direct fire. The magazines came preloaded ( as Ian mentioned in the video ).
I fired a Sho-Sho once in the trenches of Shimpstown PA and it was amazing!!! The way it seemed the entire bolt assembly just slammed back and forth was so cool......until it jammed!!!🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
"like a mofo"
-Shooty Jesus 2019
Thanks to present in the same time French UBAS with Daguet pattern. Impressive that you get an official one and not a copy (I mean in the US). Very good and nice video !
A fan/viewer in the Legion sent me the camo. :)
Ian gets killed three times while struggling to insert that magazine.
How many tomes did he die trying to hit the target
I love your commitment to the guns you love!! ❤️
You know I actually learned a lot of tactics that they used the chauchat for.
It was also used with the BAR. The fact the Chauchat was a semi-auto in addition to an AR was key in the pre-Grand US Army and USMC . . . . Great insight.
Battlefield 1 showed how much I love this gun..... for literally no reason.
The sound reproduction for the gun firing is nothing but amazing, that gun sounds magnificent!
Looks like Ian got a little taste of "la giffle" with his red cheekbone, I understand why he said soldiers put some cloth on the back of the receiver now
"La gifle" basically means "the slap in the face". So, yeah...
@@caffeinatedinsanity2324 Merci grand
@@johannmenetrier6096 woopsie daisie, mon erreur :)
I am guessing men in the trenches thought a few bruised cheeks was a price worth paying for more firepower to keep German heads down.
@@88porpoise I doubt anyone enjoyed being the one to operate it though.
This is cool asf. I appreciate the history, manual knowledge, and applications.
"The idea of walking while shooting was supposed to give the element of surprise"
Well, it was trial and error in the First World War.
Sounds like a beast... really love to see the old stuff is this deadly, the techniques they used and how far of the knowledge they had that period..
Again it's a hundred year old gun... clears malfunction then continues to fire until empty. Gotta love it.
Something about how the video starts with him just talking calmly and loading up the magazines that I like.
R. Lee Ermey once demonstrated walking fire with a BAR. He used a metal purpose-built cup attached to his belt to provide a third point of contact for the weapon. Ian, have you had the chance to see or use this?
I've seen them; haven't used one.
I like watching Ian load the Chauchat magazines
They called the chauchat trash and Ian made them ash
what did you expect from gun jesus
Well he also wasn't in real WWI conditions, in the mud and dirt of the trenches, these were horrible, part of that had to do with the mags... being open on both sides like that allowed a lot of mud and dirt to get into the mags and the gun. In the trenches, these jammed constantly. Some of our guys gave it the nickname chaushit.
Jonathan H Without those holes in the magazine loading them is a nightmare. Because of the shape of 8mm Lebel, the magazines have to have the ridiculous curvature, and shoving rounds around that corner, both loading and when shooting is a serious struggle for the spring.
Officially the rounds were rated for 20 rounds. C&Rsenal’s testing shows they had to be downloaded to 18 to feed reliably, and their analysis of photographs shows most of the photographed magazines in combat areas had only 18 rounds.
You may not like the gun, but there is a logic to these decisions. Don’t forget the goal was to crank out as many of these guns as quickly as possible.
@@JonathanH1253 Creative.
@@Imbeachedwhale That and politics. The French commission that designed the chat chat machine gun were not immune to political pressure of the time.
Subbed to this channel when it was just at 50k, grats!!!
My eye is twitching watching you load those mags Ian....
My Grandfather was in the 79th US Infantry Division as a machine gunner. He called the gun "That Damned French Gun" That is all you needed to know.
That looks like a spectacularly unpleasant firearm to shoot.
It sure is
But boy does she have a gorgeous voice 😍
The Barbra Streisand of machine guns.
Nice hat mate, btw the chauchat is probably one good looking and unique guns I love.
"This is a french cho cho"
"Chauchat"
"Its a piece of garbage dont worry about it"
That was a good movie.
Minnie worfer, Mienenwerfer
@@stephanl1983 Minenwerfer
@@johanjanssens4530 sch.. Buchstabierfunktion
Rip yoder
Sat cross legged (usually with a PlayStation controller in my hand) is my comfy position.
Always a good video, thanks Ian.