I’m an electrical contractor, Christian, living in the countryside of Virginia-this guy resonates with everything I’ve come up with from my perspective. He is able to articulate the feelings and that’s really hard to do…Especially the church-and why everything seems dead in America. It’s like weekend at Bernie’s…haha cheers Dugin! We are going to win Brother 1000% Christ is King 💪
Mysticism is a guide on the peaceful moment of eternity. 😮 The world for example, can be conceived as ‘a planet’ or ‘a turtle’. The planet can be round or flat, but the turtle is slowly moving around. Our collection of cultures and “when we ask ourselves 1:11:41” (the turtle) creates a sustainable and safe ecosystem 😊
You are a traitor if you support this man but worse than that, since patriotism means nothing, he is a mystic and he tells you upfront so you know he’s a liar
Dugin sounds like a swell fellow. He listens attentively and waits for the host to finish speaking before he offers rebuttal...Once he does answer he leaves you with no misunderstanding of what he says....He is refreshing to listen to
Public education's ultimate goal today is to confuse our children into thoughtless compliance, weaken the boys, and turn an entire generation into useless, controlled, amoral robots. Easier to destabilize society for the final Communist take over.
Profound and prophetic words from a great man. Pre SMO and his own tragedy. Exciting times indeed. It seems we have a big lesson to learn before this eschatological phase passes. A metaphysical reckoning is coming. Skilfully interviewed, Dugin isn't alone in being thankful for a golden opportunity to share. We are all the richer for listening.
Infinite thanks to you Michael for bringing so exquisite professor, I hope he would be in your program again. I just discovered this by the algorithm of You Tube. Thanks again.
First let me confess one thing: I was one of "those liberals" who thought Prof. Dugin as a fascist, racist, Putin's propagandist etc, etc.. This is of course mostly due to nonstop propaganda. By the miracle of the algorithm, first i encountered that you and another gentleman were speaking about Prof. Dugin. However you were talking about his ideas which got me intrigued. Now, after listening this interview, I have come to an conclusion that Mr. Dugin's ideas are definitely worth to be checked. I will keep digging his ideas and especially The Forth Political Theory. That I want to read asap.
im russian Dugin follower for years. just want to say thanks to you Michael, its probably the best talk with Dugin in english. bcs you know Dugins works and all this topics so well, you manage to ask a really good deep questions.
I found this channel by "accident" today and Im very pleasantly surprised by prof. Dugin's level of English. So he graciously descends to a level of us, kindergarden students. Thank you Michael.
Yep, he's right about been known in Latin American countries. I'm Colombian and there are groups who are analysing his works, and writing about it in some newspapers. People are tired of left and right. They're looking for something new.
I feel like i am on the threshold of something new, which has harbored within me for a long time. Looking forward to these new thoughts and discoveries. Thank you Brothers!
I came to know you through your interview with Paul Williams on the Blogging Theology TH-cam channel. I really like your content and see that I can learn a lot from you. Thank you for creating such a rich content!
Great interview, I heard this video 6 months ago and now again, Im from Norway and have a background in Indian philosofy, and all I can say is that Alexander Dugin’s point of view, just feels natural, and it fit me perfectly. One does not have to be a philosofer ti understand it. It comes natural to someone who have his traditional cultural background dear, and have no reason to give it up, or to change it. And the ideas can be applied probably equally to most native cultures.
Finally got around to watching this since I’ve actually read The Fourth Political Theory now. Fantastic interview, very enlightening. Conducted with pure class. Excellent work, Michael. 👏
What did you think of the book?? I have the pdf It was nice to look at our society and hows its viewed from the outside looking in and i have to say as a muslim i agreed with some of his points and also learnt new things about history
The Western ultra-liberals actually killed Dugin: they killed his young daughter Dasha at the hands of Ukrainian terrorists. Alexander Dugin is alive, but now it's just a shell. He says himself that he was killed.
What great work you are doing, Michael. Thank you for having this incredible thinker on. I am in prayer for Russia and Ukraine, and for the West to come to appropriate self-knowledge, unclouded by its atrocious narcissism. We shall see what happens....
Dugin said an independent Poland has no right to exist. As a polish person I disagree. We are the people of John Paul 2 and our freedom will never be comprimised. If Russia moves on to attack us, we will make use the right to self defense given to us by God. We will be Gods instrument which will bring punishment to Russia and save Europe from Dugins fascist ideas. We are ready to defend!
@@ludwigvictorin1849 Dugin is very intelligent. If you are aware of Left Hand Path in modern sata*ism then you can read some parts of Dugin's eclectic compositions. In 1995, he wrote: "The second path, the “Left Hand Path”, sees everything in the reverse. There is no milky bliss, but black suffering; no silent calm, but the festering, fiery drama of split being. This is the “path of wine.” It is destructive, terrifying. Wrath and rage reign on it. In this path, all reality is perceived as hell, as ontological exile, as torture, as submersion into the heart of some kind of unthinkable catastrophe originating from the very heights of the cosmos. If on the first path everything appears to be good, then on the second path everything appears evil. This path is monstrously difficult, but it is the only true one. On this path it is easy to stumble and even easier to disappear. It guarantees nothing. It entices no one. But only this path is correct. He who takes this path will gain fame and immortality. He who survives it will prevail and receive an award that is higher than being. ...The Left Hand Path is called “gnosis”, “knowledge.” It is just as bitter as knowledge and it generates sorrow and cold tragedy. Once upon a time in antiquity, when mankind still attached decisive importance to spiritual things, the Gnostics created their own theories on the level of a philosophy, a doctrine, the cosmological mysteries, and on a cult level. Gradually people degenerated, stopped paying attention to the sphere of thought, and plunged into physiology in search of individual comfort in everyday life. But the Gnostics did not disappear. They moved the dispute to a level of things understandable to modern citizens. Some of them proclaimed slogans of “social justice”, developed theories of class struggle, and communism. The Mystery of Sophia became “class consciousness”, and the “struggle against the evil Demiurge, the creator of the cursed world” took the shape of social battles. The threads of ancient knowledge stretched to Marx, Necha*v, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Che Guevara. The wine of socialist revolution, the joy of rebellion against the forces of fate, and the sacred, berserker passion for total destruction of all that was black for the sake of obtaining a new, otherworldly Light. Others opposed the ordinariness of everydayness with the secret energy of race, the noise of blood. Against mixing and deformity they raised laws of purity and a new sacrality, a return to the Golden Age, the Great Return. Nietzsche, Heidegger, Ev*la, H**ler, and M*ssolini draped the Gnostic will in national, racial teachings."
Here after listening to your recent conversation with Alex Kaschuta on Subversive. Just wanted to say thanks for feeding a hunger I didn't really know I have and for making Dugin and his thought more accessible.
Here after the Roundtable with Gonzalo Lira. I enjoyed what you had to say, Michail. Looking forward to listening to this interview this evening when I walk my dog. :)
Aesculus, Euripides, Sophocles? Greek theater is no longer studied in U.S. public schools. The ability to ascribe human behaviors to characters and plots on stage is critical to human development. Mr. Dugin is certainly a humanist for our time. Hopefully, Russophobia and anti-intellectualism will soon disappear from the American zeitgeist? Great interview!
I find this idea of Russophobia in literature strange. When I read Dostoevsky or Tolstoy in London inevitably people will come up to me and say they have read the book. Especially Crime and Punishment which is the only book I have ever read to have strangers come up to me on the street and say that is their favorite book. Russian literature is a essential part of English literature now, I think it would be strange to say you are educated without reading Crime and Punishment.
"Great minds" are a gift to inhumanity you mean. Dugin is a Nazi by all accounts. In favor of genocide of Ukrainian civilians, in favor of imperialism, and bastardizes the teachings of Heidegger, something the original Nazis also did.
@@MrMikkyn He is a supporter of the occupation of Ukraine and the extermination of Ukrainians, how can you love him? Hitler, who exterminated the Jews, do you also love?
I discovered Aleksander Dugin through Thadeus Russell just before the assassination attempt, and after listening to that interview about 4 times, I searched out everything I could find on Dugin on TH-cam. I can't wait for the four books I ordered to arrive. The chaos magician in me is giddy the coming apocalypse is guided by such a captivating figure. I've been enjoying your streams of various articles readings as well.
Listened to this whole talk & he had me when he talked about anti liberal & the way they've taken over education. I think if someone could come up with a precise political manifesto of his ideas for the layman to understand, then we could begin to promote the fourth way he talks about. Really enjoyed listening to this, thanks.
@@mentallychallenged5764 working toward it activly. The rise of the new right is well documented, though as you say, they've been open about it for decades. The ghost of mcarthyism is haunting the world.. and its a dangerous spectre.
@@raskolnikov1461 I don’t know what YOU understand about philosophy but Russians are quickest to implement any philosophy into reality with traditional to Russia nihilistic smile.
As someone on the “dissident right”, reading Dugin’s Fourth Political Theory did concern me initially while early on into the book; although as I read on, I found that even utilizing his rules of what can (and cannot) be used from the three old political ideologies, one can still make a political ideology that even the dissident right can be proud of. (Also, his criticisms on racism make perfect sense when you actually discover the rational behind them. They are not derived from ridiculous hyper-moralistic stances, or social pressures/obligations.) That being said, I do find it odd on how adamant Dugin is pertaining to not being a nationalist, and how he states that he isn’t a communist, fascist, or liberal in any form whatsoever, but in this very book he states that one CAN derive certain concepts from all three ideologies (including fascism), and ingratiate them into the fourth. (One example being ethnocentrism. (but not racism.)(I find this reassuring when I ponder over what the Russian position truly is. ) (Sometimes, I feel as though there is an attempt at maintaining good personal relations with the public from Mr. Dugin. When taking the left’s perspective into account, I can see why this book concerns them. It does indeed criticize all three political ideologies (liberalism the most, obviously), but it would be a lie to say that it isn’t explicitly stated that concepts of fascism are perfectly acceptable to utilize in the Fourth Political Theory. (One, again, being ethnocentrism.)) Being of the dissident right, I have no problem with this, of course. I understand his position now, and I was just making an observation. It has been shown that those who are too devoted to maintaining good optics have a tendency to drive off potentially interested others via not maintaining a clear position. People want confirmation of whose side you may be on. The criticisms of Dugin on the dissident right are almost entirely based upon these disclaimers that he insists upon repeating. It is a fantastic book, and Mr. Dugin’s works are keeping me occupied in my free time. Interesting stuff. This video was humbling. It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent some people are.
@@mentallychallenged5764 The attack was carried out by Ukraine according to American intelligence itself. Besides, Daria's "support" for the special military operation did not extend beyond journalism and speech, which in no way makes her a legitimate target or justifies her murder.
It is excellence to be human, a skill that helps a person choose, survive, thrive, form meaningful relationships and find happiness. As human beings, we were given the freedom to "determine ourselves". This brings us to the fundamental question: Do we use the freedom to determine to choose the darkness or for the march to the good life?
Great men who wish to enhance human dignity are aways persecuted by the Bigots snd materialists and the greedy ones who want to accumulate and starve others . This happened to beloved Jesus and Mohammad . This is happening to Prof. Dugin . Only because he is pushing forward humanism , without accepting superior race Concept . It is in fact the most inferior of human behavior to think with such arrogance . In the end the righte ous , the humanist will win and the arrogant will be smashed . It is the mother of TERRORISM by the Z regime to have killed Dugina , his daughter a journalist . A desperate and a despicable act of COWARDICE . Just like the American Journalist Kashogyi was killed . May God forgive us and guide us to path of peace .
My lifelong conviction that the Light will come from Russia has now been confirmed. The depth of thought and the pleroma of soul, the strengh in the genuin Human Intelligence . Thank you and God bless!
An interesting discussion. Ultimately, when we know that there is no truth to discover, any fallacy is as useful as any other for relief from existential angst. Doesn’t matter if it is Scientology or Christianity or hermeticism or any other tosh. Preferably it doesn’t seek to actively harm other groups of differing fallacious beliefs, the niggle is that they generally do.
28:00 - So correct. I am sorry my country, which purports to be Free won't allow him entry to lecture. It's horrible, and yeah I went to NYU for 3 degrees.
The Three main Logos as a starting point to define the structure of any culture has also a precedence in occult race theories , e.g., the Race Spirit [Folk Soul] and is more than a cultural construction. Dugin has taken on quite a challenge regarding the transcendental aspect [the vertical aspect] but its only a beginning and far more complex. Occult= Science. To be a great philosopher one has to embrace the tripartite nature of Being and I think that is what is appealing to me regarding Dugin.
I like studying Dugin’s concepts. There seems at the core of his philosophy the desire to transcend materialism. I find most political beliefs focus on material wealth, even in conservatism, its conserving the comfort of a particular lifestyle more than it is about transcendence. The protestant ideal is about faith in Jesus as the saviour, but the Orthodox Christian which I find much more appealing is Theosis, a non-monistic divine union with God through contemplation of Christ. It also emphasises ascesis, something that the protestant prosperity gospel would be inherently against. Dugin has this respect for world religions and without the Jordan Peterson style archetypal religious relatavism nonsense either. Dugin acknowledges that different cultures have different religious systems and does not desire to universalise Islam, or universalize Orthodox Christianity or universalize Advaita Vedanta. I find this to be a problem in New Age Spirituality and and some Perennialists. That the esoteric truth of all religions is that all religions are inherently true, and it subordinates all religious exoteric truths to one universal esoteric truth. But the paths of all religions are different. Advaita Vedanta emphasises Monism, that atman and brahman are one. Salafism emphasizes strict dualism, there is no immanence of the divine, Ibn Arabi emphasizes Wahdat al Wujud, nondualism, immanence and transcendance of the divine, Gaudiya Vaishnavism emphasizes serving Krishna in Vrindaban for eternity, Evangelical Christinity emphasizes literal places called heaven and hell. And by mish mashing all theologies together, religion becomes meaningless, because there is no commitment to any one path. And then they turn their religious cultural relativism into a dogma, thus eliminating all culturally unique expressions of religion and merging them into “archetypes” and “monomyths” and universalist nondualism. This is also a problem With Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung types, all cultural expression of the divine are reduced to archetypes and monomyths. But Islamic divine needs to be understood in the Islamic context, yes some are monistic but some are not. Same with Christian divine and the Hindu conceptions of the divine. So I come mainly from a sociological, anthropological and theological metaphysical perspective and less so political. But I know how heavily ingrained politics is in modernity, and that there needs to be a way to use politics as a way bring about personal transcendence. What I find difficult about one of Dugin’s concepts is that the individual is subordinate to the group. I also have a problem with Jung for the opposite reason, that the group is subordinate to the individual in his analytical theory. I think that group and individual are like a yin and yang, a duality. Never fully integrated, but never fully separated. Always in a eternal interaction. I also subscribe to panentheism, that the divine manifests itself through emanations. Notions of which exist in Kabbalah, Ismailism, and Ramanuja’s Visishtadvaita. And in the Indian religious traditious system there are the spiritual intellectual elite at the pinnacle of the hierarchy in the Varnashram system. This is the eternal ideal, but I agree with Evola that the East has become corrupted in it’s adoption of Western Materialism. He claims that China has become materialistic after two decades and that tradition has become corrupted, that an aristocrat of the soul can rise above it with detachment, and “ride the tiger” of modernity once it tires out, in order to kill it. Dugin’s philosophy seems much less metaphorically violent about killing modernity, but in coexistance and respect of multiple countries and belief systems of each country. Dugin doesn’t advocate what Evola advocates, which is to destroy the tiger of modernity in order to hasten the the end of the Kali Yuga. Dugin doesn’t seem accuse China as having devolved into materialism either which Evola does. Evola also rejects joining any order or organisation in order to facilitate transcendence and believes that it is futile in Ride the Tiger. Dugin I think has more hope for the future, and is much less emotionally distraught than Jordan Peterson when he expresses his ideas. I do sense an anger in Dugin, but it’s like expressed in a polite and non-aggressive manner, but I do wonder what kind of power he has in the political world, what vision he has. Yes eurasianism, but exactly what does it entail. I’ll need to do further study and reading.
Somebody used Dugin as a smear against Caleb Maupin, whatever their connection is, and I find myself agreeing with this guy more than most modern political/philosophical thinkers, based on this limited sample. The 4th political theory aligns with my complaint that we needed something that went beyond the 18th/19th century political ideologies available. Thanks, I'll be looking for more of his stuff.
Education can be reassuring as a meaningful ongoing critique of experience put to the backdrop of peer review. I'm not convinced philosophy contributes much as a spectator event which makes me unsure about this professor's ideas of populism, but the inaccessible aspects of pure philosophy as a field sounds exceptional for a point of departure. A lot of this is really good work.
Don't let those who have sense be subjugated by those who have none, & the generation that is being born will owe to us its reason & it's liberty - Voltaire 1700's.
I think the biggest error on the side of fourth political theory is that prof.Dugin perfectly knows that Heidegger would object to use his term "dasein" as suitable for political organization of whole country but somehow he is forcing re-interpretation of this term to be suitable for this purpose. It is true that "being" is forgotten in modernity but it does not mean you can establish whole country on this basis. It is pure individual attitude of thinking opposite to all other who prefer "having". If you want to build whole country on the concept of "being" it means you are on a very straight route to use force to convince people to think in this way because most people naturally prefer "having" , not "being". In other words prof.Dugin is on a way to other totalitarianism which uses beautiful words to explain use of force for the misfits. By the way, communists used this method to convince people that they own means of production, whereas the truth was they owned nothing at all. Secondly treating nationalism as the same beast as fashism is false, nationalism grew steadily for centuries as natural fenomen of societies living together, speaking the same language and having the same cultural customs whereas fashism grew after collapse of liberal monarchy as immediate answer to question of organization of the state. The question was: if not monarchy so what? In both fashism and communism the answer was: dictatorship of one party. Both had nothing to do with nationalism but used national propaganda to concentrate their power in the hands of one party. The reason why modernism is surfaceing on and on again in different forms is because it has proved itself to be useful in organization of the states, it is not perfect , it has failures , but it accomodates the desires of most people. However in the realm of culture modernity can be discusssed, rejected or whatever you want but not in organization of political life because it would bring either anarchy or dictatorship , no other options.
You are totally right, Millerman and Dugin are just apologists to bring over a new tiranical russian imperial expansion. We can see more clearly with the invasion of Ukraine. Dugan speaks of freedom of each country being “free to have their own ideology” but he is fine with Russia imposing and invading a country that has already determined their own. The ideology of Dugin is nothing more than lyes packaged as philosophy!
Populism is the vehicle that escapes your imagination. A nation in its simplest state of being is a collection of individuals who naturally possess the ability to experience being and to self govern in response to their collective understanding of being.
@@garybrady7429 I can completely agree that the experience of "being" is natural in individuals and it will naturally lead them to self-government. However I do not believe in collective understanding of "being" so I would predict different groups in the society define "being" for themselves , not for the whole state. So this will lead to anarchy in state organization which need to be addresed by state authorities, namely they will need to force one definition of "being" for everybody which leads to authoritarianism. I do not see third option. This is why I do not see implementing "Dasein" as very good into political theory but it has absolute reason to be discussed in the realm of culture. However I do agree with prof Dugin that unipolar world is bad and there is need to create multipolar world simply because people need to have free choice where they want to live , in the unipolar world there is no choice, there is only one prison camp where there is no space for "being" at all. I am psychologist by education and know very well that unipolar world means forced accomodation to one standard for everybody because there would be no escape. Even if in 3-polar world, every polar will be authoritarian, each authoritarianism will be not the worst because they will compete to show that "we have more freedoms". In unipolar world the authoritarianism will be unbearable even if they will use deceipt definitions of democracy, freedoms, lberalism ets.
Being a classical liberal I find the silence on his ideas from my corner of the political field to be shameful. There is nothing to fear here, just tons to discuss, and having listened to whatever I could get ahold of Dugin in the last week, his ideas have merit. All you can do by confronting and reflecting them is grow. But instead my people rather focus on explaining for the thousandth time why socialism is bad....
Because classical liberalism in modern times basically turned into something similar to left libertarianism - it accepts many of the paradigms of the left, so it will be closed to right wing ideas.
@@werrkowalski2985 Depends. I think by now that, while I still hold to many liberal concepts, liberalism is an empty husk of an ideology. It can describe a system in which it works, it does not describe what you ought to do with it. By itself that is not a killer, I think. Just weak. And we have seen this weakness along both Axis, at least here in Germany. German liberals are now leftists, of course. 150 years ago, it was the opposite and they were part of the movement for german consolidation, in which the german nation state was founded in an act of prussian arrogance. That caused 2 World Wars. In WW2 the liberals again caved, just not leftwards, but to the right (arguably as far as Hitler was really "right"). The point is: The lack of vision within the liberal framework will always make it a leaf in the wind. And then we are not at the only doctrine within the liberal framework that is somewhat something along the lines of a vision of "ought": Individualism. And it is an artifact of how liberalism defines rights, as individual properties. If all your rights are solely yours, then of course, allowing you to use them fully is a desireable thing. And Individualism is a laughable doctrine by itself because outside our social sphere, we do not exist as the thing we know ourselves as. The problem is: If you then want to establish individualism counter to that human necessity, you need "liberation". And who does liberation from literally everything? Well, Woke does. It's the foundational core of wokeness to overcome literally every single evolved human cultural feature there is. And I think that is the genetic reason why we see liberalism flop that fucking hard. Well, for now. There is certainly more. Personally, I consider myself some sort of libertarian by now, but I am so libertarian I am in no way or shape liberal. And even that is evolving. I don't think liberalism was a mistake as a whole. I "just" think it needs to be stripped for parts of all it's decent findings, mainly the economics, the ideal of freedom from human rule, a and I think there is some usefulness to the idea of individual rights, but then you can discard it. That got way out of hand again, but thank your for giving me a chance to write out what was brewing in me.
@@DivingDonut I think it is more that the liberals have just gone with the stream of the world moving ever more leftward, the 3 laws of politics, any organization that is not explicitly right wing will become more left wing over time. We can see a consistent tendency for the system to move leftward, neoractionaries have an analysis of it if you are interested. That is if the term "liberalism" isn't synonymous with leftwing itself, liberalism has been defined in many ways, it is not a very precise term, a classical liberal is a more precise term. I use liberalism here to mean an overall political system that includes democracy, it is supposedly valuing the rights of individuals, and also it is egalitarian, ever greater equality is its goal. I suppose here by liberalism you means something like just valuing freedom. What is the essence of the leftwing? Egalitarianism. At least this is what philosopher Paul Gottfried believes, and Hans Herman Hoppe has referenced his definition of the left and right, the right recognises the existence of certain differences and hence inequalities, while the left denies the existence of certain differences, or sees them as an obstacle towards the quest of ultimate human equality. The freedom itself is not the problem, it is the ubiquitous, uncritical belief in more and more radical egalitarianism. The far right has criticisms of egalitarianism, but to somebody who is a moderate and has never heard of these ideas criticising egalitarianism or democracy seems very alien, it is almost like a taboo that can't even be considered, at least on the west. This can be seen as an argument that we are living in a fundamentally leftist progressive society. Dugin may disagree, but I don't think individualism or general freedom are wrong, in that I agree with the neoreactionaries, and the studies seem to agree that in more individualistic countries there tends to be a greater trust between people, and they are more prosperous, it is the left's devotion to egalitarianism that is the main problem, many leftist beliefs can be explained as flowing from this moral conviction. The left in their pursuit of egalitarianism treats everything else as less important, and it eventually fails before achieving their goal, maybe that is because it is so antithetical to human nature. The revolutionaries have consistently failed, marxism and anarchists in the end turned out to be little more than useful idiots and tools for people to gain political power. The woke can be explained as seeing cultural differences as an obstacle to their pursuit of an egalitarian utopia. When it comes to geopolitics I have heard an argument that liberalism works in western countries only because they are protected by the USA, essentially they can be seen as a part of the american empire, countries that are not under USA protection tend to turn away from liberalism, the explanation for why that is the case was that a liberal system is easier to subvert. "That caused 2 World Wars. In WW2 the liberals again caved, just not leftwards, but to the right (arguably as far as Hitler was really "right"). The point is: The lack of vision within the liberal framework will always make it a leaf in the wind." The WWII era is complicated, but I will mention that afair the more moderate "liberals" were less likely to join nazis. there was a communist-nazi pipeline, basically hardline marxists, the vanguard party types, not the anarchists, have tended to switch parties and moved into the nazi part, Hitler has adopted some of the economic ideas from the left, that doesn't make him leftwing though, his system was still fundamentally reactionary. That being said there is also an argument that marxism has evolved from liberalism. I was a libertarian, I'm not sure if I'm a libertarian now, I think I'm more of a "post-libertarian", the state may be necessary to preserve freedom, coupled with lack of political freedom and lack of democracy. There is so much more that can be said about all of this, if you are interested check out neoreactionism and their recommended readings, the main thinkers are Yarvin, Nick Land and Spandrell.
Dugin’s “philosophy” is full of holes when you contrast it to the reality of how Russia is being run and what they really pretend. I find in his ideology, racial theory that because Russian people are a different ethnicity, then that liberal ideas like universal human rights and the protection of minorities is going to be rejected just because of their DNA being different. I find an apologist of tyranny and dictatorship in Dugin!
I mean he's a smart guy. He's smart in propaganda and philosophy, but that's the extent of it. Beyond that he just bastardizes ideas from past philosophers to mentally allow for genocide.
Julius Evola - Revolt Against the Modern World; Ride the Tiger; Metaphysics of Power; The Hermetic Tradition; Fall of Spirituality; Recognitions; The Bow and the Club.
Hey! Great interview! I was wondering if there was anywhere I could find Dugin's book " Hyperborean Theory: The Experience of Ariosophic Research " in English anywhere. Thanks!
I'm part of the 50% Americans who agree with Dugin, and am sympathetic to the Russian position. Millerman fawns over Dugin, but the more I research I do, the more I'm doing same.
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I’m an electrical contractor, Christian, living in the countryside of Virginia-this guy resonates with everything I’ve come up with from my perspective. He is able to articulate the feelings and that’s really hard to do…Especially the church-and why everything seems dead in America. It’s like weekend at Bernie’s…haha cheers Dugin! We are going to win Brother 1000% Christ is King 💪
that's what philosophers of culture do. they articulate your unarticulated perceptions and feelings, basically your life.
I'm with you friend, from down in NC.
Mysticism is a guide on the peaceful moment of eternity. 😮 The world for example, can be conceived as ‘a planet’ or ‘a turtle’. The planet can be round or flat, but the turtle is slowly moving around. Our collection of cultures and “when we ask ourselves 1:11:41” (the turtle) creates a sustainable and safe ecosystem 😊
Urban and rural Americans would love this guy that’s why he’s not allowed on social media in the western world of freedom of speech
You are a traitor if you support this man but worse than that, since patriotism means nothing, he is a mystic and he tells you upfront so you know he’s a liar
Why? What does he say?
You've just watched him on social media by the way.
Dugin is far more intelligent and nuanced than most post modern western intellectuals. Enjoyed listening to him. Thanks Michael Millerman!
He’s a mysticism liar, is all
I love this there’s no way you can paint Dugan as a good guy even though you love trump and Putin so much
@rballen420, how do you know commenter love Trump and putin.
@@FOLKTALES456 I’m sorry that was a general statement aimed at the whole thing not a specific commentator
@@rballen420 what you said is just an absurd and ridiculous statement
Dugin has the backbone to stand up for the truth against the falsehood of the western world God Bless.
Yes. That's why they killed his daughter Daria. She was blown up and burned in the car in front of her father.
Dugan is a mystical liar who is a puppet of Putin & the Christian right wing in America, These are the facts
Dugin sounds like a swell fellow. He listens attentively and waits for the host to finish speaking before he offers rebuttal...Once he does answer he leaves you with no misunderstanding of what he says....He is refreshing to listen to
As a homeschool mom since 1995, 5 grown sons, I am very much in agreement of his comments on education.
Really? You understand what you wanted to , or could hear.
@@stephenlosch2015 as do you
@@stephenlosch2015 I don't understand your meaning.... Could you please explain what you mean...?
Public education's ultimate goal today is to confuse our children into thoughtless compliance, weaken the boys, and turn an entire generation into useless, controlled, amoral robots. Easier to destabilize society for the final Communist take over.
@@N238E how’s Alaskan republic doing?
Profound and prophetic words from a great man. Pre SMO and his own tragedy. Exciting times indeed. It seems we have a big lesson to learn before this eschatological phase passes. A metaphysical reckoning is coming. Skilfully interviewed, Dugin isn't alone in being thankful for a golden opportunity to share. We are all the richer for listening.
This guy's a fruitcake. You sound like a fruitcake, too.
Have a bad day, fascist.
You made three mistakes in the word WAR
@@LittleJohnnyBrownyou’ve made 16 mistakes in word ‘arse’.
Infinite thanks to you Michael for bringing so exquisite professor, I hope he would be in your program again. I just discovered this by the algorithm of You Tube. Thanks again.
Alexander Dugin is such a gent. Wow! What a mind!
May God bless Professor Dugin abundantly and give him peace, and may his Daughter rest in peace in God's Heart! 🙏🏻♥️
First let me confess one thing: I was one of "those liberals" who thought Prof. Dugin as a fascist, racist, Putin's propagandist etc, etc.. This is of course mostly due to nonstop propaganda.
By the miracle of the algorithm, first i encountered that you and another gentleman were speaking about Prof. Dugin. However you were talking about his ideas which got me intrigued. Now, after listening this interview, I have come to an conclusion that Mr. Dugin's ideas are definitely worth to be checked.
I will keep digging his ideas and especially The Forth Political Theory. That I want to read asap.
Привет из России. Он реально фашист, конкретно в нем вы не ошиблись
im russian Dugin follower for years. just want to say thanks to you Michael, its probably the best talk with Dugin in english. bcs you know Dugins works and all this topics so well, you manage to ask a really good deep questions.
I found this channel by "accident" today and Im very pleasantly surprised by prof. Dugin's level of English. So he graciously descends to a level of us, kindergarden students. Thank you Michael.
Yep, he's right about been known in Latin American countries. I'm Colombian and there are groups who are analysing his works, and writing about it in some newspapers. People are tired of left and right. They're looking for something new.
You're absolutely right. Nothing is more politically simplistic than left/right divisions.
Haha.. that's like saying you're sick of the left right brain lol. Hitler already broke that false paradigm. You're a normie
I agree, and I am a 66 year old disabled Army Veteran. The sheep's clothing is off the Western Liberal Wolf.
Same in Italy.
@@willardmusick1187 what about western conservative?
I feel like i am on the threshold of something new, which has harbored within me for a long time. Looking forward to these new thoughts and discoveries. Thank you Brothers!
Are you a superhero?
hahaha! no just a common man but who's heard so many things in the past two hundred years! @@billySquanto
Same…
I came to know you through your interview with Paul Williams on the Blogging Theology TH-cam channel. I really like your content and see that I can learn a lot from you. Thank you for creating such a rich content!
I too saw the Blogging Theology interview, which led to this.
Great interview, I heard this video 6 months ago and now again, Im from Norway and have a background in Indian philosofy, and all I can say is that Alexander Dugin’s point of view, just feels natural, and it fit me perfectly. One does not have to be a philosofer ti understand it. It comes natural to someone who have his traditional cultural background dear, and have no reason to give it up, or to change it. And the ideas can be applied probably equally to most native cultures.
According to Dugin Kabbalah is the greatest achievement of the human mind.
What a thought-provoking discussion. Prof Dugin's ideas and philosophy certainly offers worthwhile alternatives to a world gone mad.
And Putin's Russia is NOT a nation gone mad? He offers no true alternative to anything.
Putin murdered this guy's daughter .
Calling him a professor is like calling Ronald mcDonald a comedian
Finally got around to watching this since I’ve actually read The Fourth Political Theory now. Fantastic interview, very enlightening. Conducted with pure class. Excellent work, Michael. 👏
Thank you for your service Mr Bust. From a dawg.
What did you think of the book??
I have the pdf
It was nice to look at our society and hows its viewed from the outside looking in and i have to say as a muslim i agreed with some of his points and also learnt new things about history
What a beautiful mind, please do more interviews with Prof.Dugin this is gold.
God bless you Dugin! Love from and support from sweden, big fan❤
The Western ultra-liberals actually killed Dugin: they killed his young daughter Dasha at the hands of Ukrainian terrorists. Alexander Dugin is alive, but now it's just a shell. He says himself that he was killed.
Incredible! Thanks so much for having the great Alexander Dugin on
What great work you are doing, Michael. Thank you for having this incredible thinker on. I am in prayer for Russia and Ukraine, and for the West to come to appropriate self-knowledge, unclouded by its atrocious narcissism. We shall see what happens....
Dugin said an independent Poland has no right to exist. As a polish person I disagree. We are the people of John Paul 2 and our freedom will never be comprimised. If Russia moves on to attack us, we will make use the right to self defense given to us by God. We will be Gods instrument which will bring punishment to Russia and save Europe from Dugins fascist ideas. We are ready to defend!
while you as benedectine monk should be ashamed of yourself to praise a man who is defending the attacks on our ukranian brothers and sisters.
@@ludwigvictorin1849 Dugin is very intelligent. If you are aware of Left Hand Path in modern sata*ism then you can read some parts of Dugin's eclectic compositions. In 1995, he wrote:
"The second path, the “Left Hand Path”, sees everything in the reverse. There is no milky bliss, but black suffering; no silent calm, but the festering, fiery drama of split being. This is the “path of wine.” It is destructive, terrifying. Wrath and rage reign on it. In this path, all reality is perceived as hell, as ontological exile, as torture, as submersion into the heart of some kind of unthinkable catastrophe originating from the very heights of the cosmos.
If on the first path everything appears to be good, then on the second path everything appears evil. This path is monstrously difficult, but it is the only true one. On this path it is easy to stumble and even easier to disappear. It guarantees nothing. It entices no one. But only this path is correct. He who takes this path will gain fame and immortality. He who survives it will prevail and receive an award that is higher than being.
...The Left Hand Path is called “gnosis”, “knowledge.” It is just as bitter as knowledge and it generates sorrow and cold tragedy. Once upon a time in antiquity, when mankind still attached decisive importance to spiritual things, the Gnostics created their own theories on the level of a philosophy, a doctrine, the cosmological mysteries, and on a cult level. Gradually people degenerated, stopped paying attention to the sphere of thought, and plunged into physiology in search of individual comfort in everyday life.
But the Gnostics did not disappear. They moved the dispute to a level of things understandable to modern citizens.
Some of them proclaimed slogans of “social justice”, developed theories of class struggle, and communism. The Mystery of Sophia became “class consciousness”, and the “struggle against the evil Demiurge, the creator of the cursed world” took the shape of social battles. The threads of ancient knowledge stretched to Marx, Necha*v, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Che Guevara. The wine of socialist revolution, the joy of rebellion against the forces of fate, and the sacred, berserker passion for total destruction of all that was black for the sake of obtaining a new, otherworldly Light.
Others opposed the ordinariness of everydayness with the secret energy of race, the noise of blood. Against mixing and deformity they raised laws of purity and a new sacrality, a return to the Golden Age, the Great Return. Nietzsche, Heidegger, Ev*la, H**ler, and M*ssolini draped the Gnostic will in national, racial teachings."
@@apricus3155 great and we will fight him to our death. To hell with fascism
@Cu6upckuû just google it (or yandex it lol.) he is not lhp
Thank you for this conversation with Dugin!
Two lovely gentlemen...❤
Here after listening to your recent conversation with Alex Kaschuta on Subversive. Just wanted to say thanks for feeding a hunger I didn't really know I have and for making Dugin and his thought more accessible.
People understand at a base level that liberals are dangerous, and are guided by a spirit of emergent evil, like a buzzing hive of lemming bees.
If you do another interview with Dugin please discuss Multipolarity and Eurasianism.
Of great interest. Thank you for the interview!
Here after the Roundtable with Gonzalo Lira. I enjoyed what you had to say, Michail. Looking forward to listening to this interview this evening when I walk my dog. :)
Excellent interview!
Aesculus, Euripides, Sophocles? Greek theater is no longer studied in U.S. public schools. The ability to ascribe human behaviors to characters and plots on stage is critical to human development. Mr. Dugin is certainly a humanist for our time. Hopefully, Russophobia and anti-intellectualism will soon disappear from the American zeitgeist? Great interview!
I find this idea of Russophobia in literature strange. When I read Dostoevsky or Tolstoy in London inevitably people will come up to me and say they have read the book. Especially Crime and Punishment which is the only book I have ever read to have strangers come up to me on the street and say that is their favorite book.
Russian literature is a essential part of English literature now, I think it would be strange to say you are educated without reading Crime and Punishment.
Great minds are a gift to humanity.
Thank You 🙏🏼
Haha. Clearly you couldnt recognize one
"Great minds" are a gift to inhumanity you mean. Dugin is a Nazi by all accounts. In favor of genocide of Ukrainian civilians, in favor of imperialism, and bastardizes the teachings of Heidegger, something the original Nazis also did.
I'm here to check this out after your very informative discussion with Br. Paul Williams (blogging theology);
keep up the good work, God bless you
Thank you M., for hosting the thought criminal Professor Dr Dugin.
PLEASE DO at least 10 PART SERIES OF INTERVIEWS!!
I love Dugin
@@MrMikkyn He is a supporter of the occupation of Ukraine and the extermination of Ukrainians, how can you love him? Hitler, who exterminated the Jews, do you also love?
I discovered Aleksander Dugin through Thadeus Russell just before the assassination attempt, and after listening to that interview about 4 times, I searched out everything I could find on Dugin on TH-cam. I can't wait for the four books I ordered to arrive. The chaos magician in me is giddy the coming apocalypse is guided by such a captivating figure. I've been enjoying your streams of various articles readings as well.
Listened to this whole talk & he had me when he talked about anti liberal & the way they've taken over education. I think if someone could come up with a precise political manifesto of his ideas for the layman to understand, then we could begin to promote the fourth way he talks about. Really enjoyed listening to this, thanks.
Republicans in the us have been talking about this for decades.
The nwo. Extrmeist conservstivism.
@@mentallychallenged5764 working toward it activly. The rise of the new right is well documented, though as you say, they've been open about it for decades. The ghost of mcarthyism is haunting the world.. and its a dangerous spectre.
What a great channel! Thank you for your work!
God bless. Amin. 🙏
I've just purchased x2 books, thank you so much, for your knowledge.
Thank you for sharing your brilliant mind, Mr Dugin. What a deep thinker and clearly minded man ❤
How many millions of people we should eliminate to achieve Dugin’s paradise?
@@mentallychallenged5764 Do you understand WHAT philosophy is?!
@@raskolnikov1461 I don’t know what YOU understand about philosophy but Russians are quickest to implement any philosophy into reality with traditional to Russia nihilistic smile.
Thank you for this interview
My condolences professor. RIP Daria🙏
Who is Daria??
Daughter of the interviewee - simple search will yield plentiful info to answer/elucidate you on the issue.
To@@rballen420
@@kaijamie3182 I knew you were going to come up with an ignorant answer because well you display your ignorance so well
Big props to millerman for his line of study and hard work.
As someone on the “dissident right”, reading Dugin’s Fourth Political Theory did concern me initially while early on into the book; although as I read on, I found that even utilizing his rules of what can (and cannot) be used from the three old political ideologies, one can still make a political ideology that even the dissident right can be proud of.
(Also, his criticisms on racism make perfect sense when you actually discover the rational behind them. They are not derived from ridiculous hyper-moralistic stances, or social pressures/obligations.)
That being said, I do find it odd on how adamant Dugin is pertaining to not being a nationalist, and how he states that he isn’t a communist, fascist, or liberal in any form whatsoever, but in this very book he states that one CAN derive certain concepts from all three ideologies (including fascism), and ingratiate them into the fourth. (One example being ethnocentrism. (but not racism.)(I find this reassuring when I ponder over what the Russian position truly is. )
(Sometimes, I feel as though there is an attempt at maintaining good personal relations with the public from Mr. Dugin. When taking the left’s perspective into account, I can see why this book concerns them. It does indeed criticize all three political ideologies (liberalism the most, obviously), but it would be a lie to say that it isn’t explicitly stated that concepts of fascism are perfectly acceptable to utilize in the Fourth Political Theory. (One, again, being ethnocentrism.))
Being of the dissident right, I have no problem with this, of course. I understand his position now, and I was just making an observation. It has been shown that those who are too devoted to maintaining good optics have a tendency to drive off potentially interested others via not maintaining a clear position. People want confirmation of whose side you may be on. The criticisms of Dugin on the dissident right are almost entirely based upon these disclaimers that he insists upon repeating.
It is a fantastic book, and Mr. Dugin’s works are keeping me occupied in my free time. Interesting stuff.
This video was humbling. It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent some people are.
Such brilliant mind Mr Dugin, I can understand why Mr Putin consider him an important adviser
Wow Dugin's ending is so positive:) A Reason to Believe. I love this man:)
The best thinker of our time!
A deep thinker.
It breaks my heart that Dugin's daughter was MURDERED by the Zelensky MONSTER:(
good riddance
1. Doesn’t it break your heart that she was supporting the murder of thousands?
2. It wasn’t Zelenski. It was her dad’s business partners.
She was responsible for stealing millions of dollars from the Kremlin to fund Le Pen's electoral party.
@@mentallychallenged5764 go away nasty troll….
@@mentallychallenged5764 The attack was carried out by Ukraine according to American intelligence itself. Besides, Daria's "support" for the special military operation did not extend beyond journalism and speech, which in no way makes her a legitimate target or justifies her murder.
finaly an interview with the master himself
It is excellence to be human, a skill that helps a person choose, survive, thrive, form meaningful relationships and find happiness.
As human beings, we were given the freedom to "determine ourselves". This brings us to the fundamental question:
Do we use the freedom to determine to choose the darkness or for the march to the good life?
So well said sir . God bless you .
Was looking forward to this non stop since I saw the notification.
What a great thinker of the Renaissance scale!
Great men who wish to enhance human dignity are aways persecuted by the Bigots snd materialists and the greedy ones who want to accumulate and starve others .
This happened to beloved Jesus and Mohammad .
This is happening to Prof. Dugin . Only because he is pushing forward humanism , without accepting superior race
Concept . It is in fact the most inferior of human behavior to think with such arrogance .
In the end the righte ous , the humanist will win and the arrogant will be smashed .
It is the mother of TERRORISM by the Z regime to have killed Dugina , his daughter a journalist . A desperate and a despicable act of COWARDICE . Just like the American Journalist Kashogyi was killed .
May God forgive us and guide us to path of peace .
Thank you for inviting Alexander Dugin. Profesor very serious, haven't smiled, not even once, god forbid laughs, but looks relaxed
That’s why Russian man wear beard. To hide smile. ;)
This is commonly said about Russians in general, that they don’t smile (for no reason).
Just discovered your channel and appreciate it very much.
And yes it was very very gratifying to hear Dugin Sir mention Nietzche in the end... 🙏
Thanks for putting this up - Very insightful discussion!
My lifelong conviction that the Light will come from Russia has now been confirmed. The depth of thought and the pleroma of soul, the strengh in the genuin Human Intelligence . Thank you and God bless!
Brilliant, a shame that Dugin isn't given more exposure. Thanks for this.
@Emile Tell that to the dead Russians and Ukrainians from the Russian-Ukrainian war.
@@carcrash1875 oh shut up shitlib
@@carcrash1875Ukraine is just a weapon in west's bloody hands
An interesting discussion. Ultimately, when we know that there is no truth to discover, any fallacy is as useful as any other for relief from existential angst. Doesn’t matter if it is Scientology or Christianity or hermeticism or any other tosh. Preferably it doesn’t seek to actively harm other groups of differing fallacious beliefs, the niggle is that they generally do.
28:00 - So correct. I am sorry my country, which purports to be Free won't allow him entry to lecture. It's horrible, and yeah I went to NYU for 3 degrees.
The Three main Logos as a starting point to define the structure of any culture has also a precedence in occult race theories , e.g., the Race Spirit [Folk Soul] and is more than a cultural construction. Dugin has taken on quite a challenge regarding the transcendental aspect [the vertical aspect] but its only a beginning and far more complex.
Occult= Science. To be a great philosopher one has to embrace the tripartite nature of Being and I think that is what is appealing to me regarding Dugin.
great interview, the more i listen to Dugin the more I love him. I love Henry Corbin as well.
Which ones of Henry Corbin you recommend?
Based Millerman
I like studying Dugin’s concepts. There seems at the core of his philosophy the desire to transcend materialism. I find most political beliefs focus on material wealth, even in conservatism, its conserving the comfort of a particular lifestyle more than it is about transcendence. The protestant ideal is about faith in Jesus as the saviour, but the Orthodox Christian which I find much more appealing is Theosis, a non-monistic divine union with God through contemplation of Christ. It also emphasises ascesis, something that the protestant prosperity gospel would be inherently against. Dugin has this respect for world religions and without the Jordan Peterson style archetypal religious relatavism nonsense either. Dugin acknowledges that different cultures have different religious systems and does not desire to universalise Islam, or universalize Orthodox Christianity or universalize Advaita Vedanta. I find this to be a problem in New Age Spirituality and and some Perennialists. That the esoteric truth of all religions is that all religions are inherently true, and it subordinates all religious exoteric truths to one universal esoteric truth. But the paths of all religions are different. Advaita Vedanta emphasises Monism, that atman and brahman are one. Salafism emphasizes strict dualism, there is no immanence of the divine, Ibn Arabi emphasizes Wahdat al Wujud, nondualism, immanence and transcendance of the divine, Gaudiya Vaishnavism emphasizes serving Krishna in Vrindaban for eternity, Evangelical Christinity emphasizes literal places called heaven and hell. And by mish mashing all theologies together, religion becomes meaningless, because there is no commitment to any one path. And then they turn their religious cultural relativism into a dogma, thus eliminating all culturally unique expressions of religion and merging them into “archetypes” and “monomyths” and universalist nondualism.
This is also a problem With Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung types, all cultural expression of the divine are reduced to archetypes and monomyths. But Islamic divine needs to be understood in the Islamic context, yes some are monistic but some are not. Same with Christian divine and the Hindu conceptions of the divine. So I come mainly from a sociological, anthropological and theological metaphysical perspective and less so political. But I know how heavily ingrained politics is in modernity, and that there needs to be a way to use politics as a way bring about personal transcendence. What I find difficult about one of Dugin’s concepts is that the individual is subordinate to the group. I also have a problem with Jung for the opposite reason, that the group is subordinate to the individual in his analytical theory. I think that group and individual are like a yin and yang, a duality. Never fully integrated, but never fully separated. Always in a eternal interaction.
I also subscribe to panentheism, that the divine manifests itself through emanations. Notions of which exist in Kabbalah, Ismailism, and Ramanuja’s Visishtadvaita. And in the Indian religious traditious system there are the spiritual intellectual elite at the pinnacle of the hierarchy in the Varnashram system. This is the eternal ideal, but I agree with Evola that the East has become corrupted in it’s adoption of Western Materialism. He claims that China has become materialistic after two decades and that tradition has become corrupted, that an aristocrat of the soul can rise above it with detachment, and “ride the tiger” of modernity once it tires out, in order to kill it. Dugin’s philosophy seems much less metaphorically violent about killing modernity, but in coexistance and respect of multiple countries and belief systems of each country. Dugin doesn’t advocate what Evola advocates, which is to destroy the tiger of modernity in order to hasten the the end of the Kali Yuga. Dugin doesn’t seem accuse China as having devolved into materialism either which Evola does. Evola also rejects joining any order or organisation in order to facilitate transcendence and believes that it is futile in Ride the Tiger. Dugin I think has more hope for the future, and is much less emotionally distraught than Jordan Peterson when he expresses his ideas. I do sense an anger in Dugin, but it’s like expressed in a polite and non-aggressive manner, but I do wonder what kind of power he has in the political world, what vision he has. Yes eurasianism, but exactly what does it entail. I’ll need to do further study and reading.
An insightful reflection. Thank you.
jazakallahu khairan
You show great insight in different philosophies.
Top content,thanks!
Somebody used Dugin as a smear against Caleb Maupin, whatever their connection is, and I find myself agreeing with this guy more than most modern political/philosophical thinkers, based on this limited sample. The 4th political theory aligns with my complaint that we needed something that went beyond the 18th/19th century political ideologies available. Thanks, I'll be looking for more of his stuff.
Caleb sat next to and talked with Dugin at a conference in Russia.
th-cam.com/video/oods2wkTScY/w-d-xo.html
the stressing of the spontaneity of the reception has a beatiful glow in the dark
Sozhaleyu, professor Dugin, o potere vashey docheri Dar'i, pokoysya s mirom.
Wow. I am floored. I thought I had some sort of grasp of philosophy.
Education can be reassuring as a meaningful ongoing critique of experience put to the backdrop of peer review. I'm not convinced philosophy contributes much as a spectator event which makes me unsure about this professor's ideas of populism, but the inaccessible aspects of pure philosophy as a field sounds exceptional for a point of departure. A lot of this is really good work.
Good job! I was looking for it long time.
THANKYOU! MICHAEL
Internet at its best
Mr Alexander has an excellent english as well as his ideas 💡
eee boy, videos that will make brains move (i hope) finally on youtube 😀
What a pity that I missed this session. I would love to be there next time, with Michael Millerman and Aleksandr Dugin.
Dugin gave the best shot interpretation of Heidegger's teaching
short
Gigantic spirit of liberty! Thanks.
Surprising! Want to listen more about world order view and philosophy for future human beings.
What a wonderful mind! You too Michael - you a smart as F and a wonderful man.
Don't let those who have sense be subjugated by those who have none, & the generation that is being born will owe to us its reason & it's liberty - Voltaire 1700's.
This was a really enlightening interview - am now trying to buy books by dugin but can’t find any online
But did Dugin know about Kevin MacDonald's critique of Franz Boas' anthropology in "Culture of Critique"?
I think the biggest error on the side of fourth political theory is that prof.Dugin perfectly knows that Heidegger would object to use his term "dasein" as suitable for political organization of whole country but somehow he is forcing re-interpretation of this term to be suitable for this purpose. It is true that "being" is forgotten in modernity but it does not mean you can establish whole country on this basis. It is pure individual attitude of thinking opposite to all other who prefer "having". If you want to build whole country on the concept of "being" it means you are on a very straight route to use force to convince people to think in this way because most people naturally prefer "having" , not "being". In other words prof.Dugin is on a way to other totalitarianism which uses beautiful words to explain use of force for the misfits. By the way, communists used this method to convince people that they own means of production, whereas the truth was they owned nothing at all.
Secondly treating nationalism as the same beast as fashism is false, nationalism grew steadily for centuries as natural fenomen of societies living together, speaking the same language and having the same cultural customs whereas fashism grew after collapse of liberal monarchy as immediate answer to question of organization of the state. The question was: if not monarchy so what?
In both fashism and communism the answer was: dictatorship of one party. Both had nothing to do with nationalism but used national propaganda to concentrate their power in the hands of one party.
The reason why modernism is surfaceing on and on again in different forms is because it has proved itself to be useful in organization of the states, it is not perfect , it has failures , but it accomodates the desires of most people. However in the realm of culture modernity can be discusssed, rejected or whatever you want but not in organization of political life because it would bring either anarchy or dictatorship , no other options.
Dasein as a framework for the interpretation of tradition.
You are totally right, Millerman and Dugin are just apologists to bring over a new tiranical russian imperial expansion. We can see more clearly with the invasion of Ukraine. Dugan speaks of freedom of each country being “free to have their own ideology” but he is fine with Russia imposing and invading a country that has already determined their own. The ideology of Dugin is nothing more than lyes packaged as philosophy!
Populism is the vehicle that escapes your imagination. A nation in its simplest state of being is a collection of individuals who naturally possess the ability to experience being and to self govern in response to their collective understanding of being.
@@garybrady7429 I can completely agree that the experience of "being" is natural in individuals and it will naturally lead them to self-government. However I do not believe in collective understanding of "being" so I would predict different groups in the society define "being" for themselves , not for the whole state. So this will lead to anarchy in state organization which need to be addresed by state authorities, namely they will need to force one definition of "being" for everybody which leads to authoritarianism. I do not see third option. This is why I do not see implementing "Dasein" as very good into political theory but it has absolute reason to be discussed in the realm of culture.
However I do agree with prof Dugin that unipolar world is bad and there is need to create multipolar world simply because people need to have free choice where they want to live , in the unipolar world there is no choice, there is only one prison camp where there is no space for "being" at all. I am psychologist by education and know very well that unipolar world means forced accomodation to one standard for everybody because there would be no escape. Even if in 3-polar world, every polar will be authoritarian, each authoritarianism will be not the worst because they will compete to show that "we have more freedoms". In unipolar world the authoritarianism will be unbearable even if they will use deceipt definitions of democracy, freedoms, lberalism ets.
Exactly my thinking, is that not where we are headed ..Being dead
May God bless the work of Prof. Dugin and thank you for this interview. I am very much interested in further explication of the three logoi.
I need to study this guy. Thank you for this
Scythian brothers of Eurasia, I salute you all from ancestral Hyperborea.
Being a classical liberal I find the silence on his ideas from my corner of the political field to be shameful.
There is nothing to fear here, just tons to discuss, and having listened to whatever I could get ahold of Dugin in the last week, his ideas have merit. All you can do by confronting and reflecting them is grow. But instead my people rather focus on explaining for the thousandth time why socialism is bad....
Because classical liberalism in modern times basically turned into something similar to left libertarianism - it accepts many of the paradigms of the left, so it will be closed to right wing ideas.
@@werrkowalski2985 Depends. I think by now that, while I still hold to many liberal concepts, liberalism is an empty husk of an ideology. It can describe a system in which it works, it does not describe what you ought to do with it.
By itself that is not a killer, I think. Just weak.
And we have seen this weakness along both Axis, at least here in Germany. German liberals are now leftists, of course. 150 years ago, it was the opposite and they were part of the movement for german consolidation, in which the german nation state was founded in an act of prussian arrogance.
That caused 2 World Wars. In WW2 the liberals again caved, just not leftwards, but to the right (arguably as far as Hitler was really "right"). The point is: The lack of vision within the liberal framework will always make it a leaf in the wind.
And then we are not at the only doctrine within the liberal framework that is somewhat something along the lines of a vision of "ought": Individualism.
And it is an artifact of how liberalism defines rights, as individual properties. If all your rights are solely yours, then of course, allowing you to use them fully is a desireable thing.
And Individualism is a laughable doctrine by itself because outside our social sphere, we do not exist as the thing we know ourselves as.
The problem is: If you then want to establish individualism counter to that human necessity, you need "liberation".
And who does liberation from literally everything? Well, Woke does. It's the foundational core of wokeness to overcome literally every single evolved human cultural feature there is.
And I think that is the genetic reason why we see liberalism flop that fucking hard. Well, for now. There is certainly more.
Personally, I consider myself some sort of libertarian by now, but I am so libertarian I am in no way or shape liberal. And even that is evolving.
I don't think liberalism was a mistake as a whole. I "just" think it needs to be stripped for parts of all it's decent findings, mainly the economics, the ideal of freedom from human rule, a and I think there is some usefulness to the idea of individual rights, but then you can discard it.
That got way out of hand again, but thank your for giving me a chance to write out what was brewing in me.
@@DivingDonut I think it is more that the liberals have just gone with the stream of the world moving ever more leftward, the 3 laws of politics, any organization that is not explicitly right wing will become more left wing over time. We can see a consistent tendency for the system to move leftward, neoractionaries have an analysis of it if you are interested.
That is if the term "liberalism" isn't synonymous with leftwing itself, liberalism has been defined in many ways, it is not a very precise term, a classical liberal is a more precise term. I use liberalism here to mean an overall political system that includes democracy, it is supposedly valuing the rights of individuals, and also it is egalitarian, ever greater equality is its goal. I suppose here by liberalism you means something like just valuing freedom.
What is the essence of the leftwing? Egalitarianism. At least this is what philosopher Paul Gottfried believes, and Hans Herman Hoppe has referenced his definition of the left and right, the right recognises the existence of certain differences and hence inequalities, while the left denies the existence of certain differences, or sees them as an obstacle towards the quest of ultimate human equality. The freedom itself is not the problem, it is the ubiquitous, uncritical belief in more and more radical egalitarianism. The far right has criticisms of egalitarianism, but to somebody who is a moderate and has never heard of these ideas criticising egalitarianism or democracy seems very alien, it is almost like a taboo that can't even be considered, at least on the west. This can be seen as an argument that we are living in a fundamentally leftist progressive society.
Dugin may disagree, but I don't think individualism or general freedom are wrong, in that I agree with the neoreactionaries, and the studies seem to agree that in more individualistic countries there tends to be a greater trust between people, and they are more prosperous, it is the left's devotion to egalitarianism that is the main problem, many leftist beliefs can be explained as flowing from this moral conviction. The left in their pursuit of egalitarianism treats everything else as less important, and it eventually fails before achieving their goal, maybe that is because it is so antithetical to human nature. The revolutionaries have consistently failed, marxism and anarchists in the end turned out to be little more than useful idiots and tools for people to gain political power.
The woke can be explained as seeing cultural differences as an obstacle to their pursuit of an egalitarian utopia.
When it comes to geopolitics I have heard an argument that liberalism works in western countries only because they are protected by the USA, essentially they can be seen as a part of the american empire, countries that are not under USA protection tend to turn away from liberalism, the explanation for why that is the case was that a liberal system is easier to subvert.
"That caused 2 World Wars. In WW2 the liberals again caved, just not leftwards, but to the right (arguably as far as Hitler was really "right"). The point is: The lack of vision within the liberal framework will always make it a leaf in the wind."
The WWII era is complicated, but I will mention that afair the more moderate "liberals" were less likely to join nazis. there was a communist-nazi pipeline, basically hardline marxists, the vanguard party types, not the anarchists, have tended to switch parties and moved into the nazi part, Hitler has adopted some of the economic ideas from the left, that doesn't make him leftwing though, his system was still fundamentally reactionary. That being said there is also an argument that marxism has evolved from liberalism.
I was a libertarian, I'm not sure if I'm a libertarian now, I think I'm more of a "post-libertarian", the state may be necessary to preserve freedom, coupled with lack of political freedom and lack of democracy.
There is so much more that can be said about all of this, if you are interested check out neoreactionism and their recommended readings, the main thinkers are Yarvin, Nick Land and Spandrell.
Dugin’s “philosophy” is full of holes when you contrast it to the reality of how Russia is being run and what they really pretend. I find in his ideology, racial theory that because Russian people are a different ethnicity, then that liberal ideas like universal human rights and the protection of minorities is going to be rejected just because of their DNA being different. I find an apologist of tyranny and dictatorship in Dugin!
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Dugan's metaphysical and mystical ideas are pure genius. The same cannot be said of the Russianality of his thought.
Perhaps he's not hiding it like most. Consider the possibility that he's just a traditionalist.
I mean he's a smart guy. He's smart in propaganda and philosophy, but that's the extent of it. Beyond that he just bastardizes ideas from past philosophers to mentally allow for genocide.
Terrific interview. Thanks.
Immense interview. Amazing. Huge interview. Thank you.
Excellent content Michael thank you
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Clear mind. Was interesting to listen him about Heidegger, because in Russian language never heard Dugin so explicetelly talking on Heidegger
Thank you!!Great talk!!💯
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Hey! Great interview! I was wondering if there was anywhere I could find Dugin's book " Hyperborean Theory: The Experience of Ariosophic Research " in English anywhere. Thanks!
I'm not sure, sorry! But glad you enjoyed the interview.
OK, so I still don't understand how can we mix Heidegger with Plato.
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I'm part of the 50% Americans who agree with Dugin, and am sympathetic to the Russian position. Millerman fawns over Dugin, but the more I research I do, the more I'm doing same.