Islam, Christianity, Hinduism & More | Mohsin Raza Khan On History Of Religion, The Ranveer Show 262
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Excited to present our guest on the show today, Mohsin Raza Khan. He is an Associate Professor at The School of International Affairs, Jindal Global University. He is a former Chevening Scholar and an FRM from GARP, NY.
Religion is a complex and varied phenomenon that has played a significant role in human history. The history of religion is difficult to trace because it has evolved over time and varies greatly across different cultures and societies. Over time, organized religions with complex belief systems and hierarchies developed, including the major world religions of today such as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and more. These religions have shaped the course of human history and continue to influence the way people live and think today.
Hope you enjoy this episode.
0:00 - Mohsin Raza Khan x Ranveer begins
2:50 - Intro to the history of religions
3:45 - What are the origins of Islam?
26:55 - What is the Aryan Theory?
38:40 - Varieties of people in India
48:36 - The story of Judaism
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Listening to him I think he had a rigid mindset of aryan invasion theory and kept bringing terms to support it. Please sir let him have a debate with abhijeeth sir and let's see what's the result.
I am in complete agreement with you
His last name tells us a lot about him. 🙄🙄
@@vishakhabh.6341 True bro. Felt like He is more Abrahamic than being Indian
@@vishakhabh.6341 I feel the same . Being open minded Ranveer listened his perspective too..Debate is a great option
Even though the views are conflicting, the guest has a condescending attitude which makes the podcast a little unpleasant.
By this podcast i have learnt some Beautiful facts:-
Slave=Dasa
We were not trading
Sufism= Peace and love
Buddhism= missionary religion
No Mandirs in Vedic period
Aryan picnic theory is history
Horses were not present (Bimbetka caves in MP have 50k years old horse paintings)
Chariots are foreign ( Mahabharata happened in KTMs )
Vedas = Qur'an Bible
Astrology is Iran's contribution (acha...)
Sanskrit is foreign language by the West
Ra is of Dravidian
India was not in contact with the rest of the world (LMAO).
so much fucking knowledge in 1 video , isn't it?
love you Ranveer bhai (mazak karra hun , ye kis chutiye ko le aye ho show mei)
Op bhai
Lmao 😭
🔥🔥🔥broo
Op
Exactly 💯
Finally found a guy with the mind who wrote our NCERT👁️🗨️
True
True 😂😂😂 khena kha chatio ho
Anhijit Chawda is Far more Convincing and Accurate in his Research and Logic as far as the History of Bharat is Concerned
The excavation of Sinauli proves that the chariots have always been a part of Indian history. Either he's living under a rock or is deliberately staying ignorant. The reasons unknown but Iranians and their knowledge can't be attributed to islamic influence. The original culture of Zoroatrinism were very Smart.
True
Which region of India had chariots can u specify
@@vj_great551 search about sinauli you commie
@@vj_great551 all of it.
The oldest evidences of domesticated horses are in fact from India. They are often mentioned in Ramayana and Mahabharata. In fact there are a few horse breeds which are native to certain parts of India only like the ones at Matheran.
Thanks for all the comments and saving my 1.5 hours, else I would have assumed it to be somewhat neutral perspective. By the way, Ashwa (Horse) (ashwamedh yagya) is mentioned in our oldest texts and has been there since Ramayana and Mahabharata times.
❤️🥺☺️☺️
Yes words like Ashwa are common across PIE, but does not mean that the horses were domesticated.
At least listen to this podcast from a neutral perspective it's worth watching bunch of dogmatic ( kattar ) people in the comment section he himself talks about evolution being a Muslim....
Seriously dude
Same here
@@lakshvardhan3549 ah man ! Truth is never neutral .
As Hindus we should be open to hearing and understanding other religions and cultures. And how these cultures interpret ours … that’s what Hinduism has always been about open mindedness… I didn’t find this podcast biased in any way he only spoke facts he read . Today’s gen need patience in hearing to others as well .. about horses he’s talking about a specific century during Indus Valley civilisation I guess not periods of mahabharata or ramayana that’s my interpretation from the podcast .
No no.
We know the truth. We don't want to know anythingthat disproves that.
There is difference between facts and propaganda.. quran and hadis is full of instance where they used used to capture slaves would use them as sex slaves and then sell them to buy weapons.. Read buddy I myself have read then I am saying this.. and this guy is saying his prophet freed Jews didn't use slaves and all
Stop acting like a librandu and watch ex muslim channels then.
The reason he looks down is because he's trying hard to conceal the Truth and think of what to say to propagate his agenda. That's why whenever Ranveer exhibits trust in the speaker (ie., no intention to confront) and/or enthusiasm in the topic being discussed, the speaker looks straight at Ranveer and even his speech becomes more fluent and just "flows".
Bimbetka caves in MP have 50k years old horse paintings.
This is for Those who fall to this narrative India didn't have native horses .. also this for mr. Allahbadia
Exactly 💯
True
Exactly!!!
As far as i am concerned there were no horses ..
50k year wow. Source - out of my ass.
"Sanskrit came from europe"
"there was no horse in this country so in mahabahrata they used tank"
"India was not known for trade"
"astrology was persian"
"mughals were taking advice from sages, pundits"
every time using "indo-europien" word .
all of this within 10-15 minutes
ye kya sunna par rha hai acha hai ki mai deaf hu.
Again taking away the real credit of our Indian ancestors to drop down the self esteem of our sanatan dharma followers.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was basically trying to say India was nothing and people were living sadist life until the true god and true religion came about in Saudi Arabia.
Just another mulla with their age old, familiar mindset.
@ABHIJIT ANAND Exactly brother.. These guys are all the same whether educated or not. They keep saying all other faiths are based on false gods and their faith is the best and true one. That's all they do their entire life.
Are we supposed to include Adam & Eve, Noah's flood, Mahabharata etc as science or history discussion.
Man this comment section is a shit show. Everyone's first option when they don't like his opinions is to go straight to his religion. There is no need to bring religion in any of this.
Their hearts are filled with hatred and they talk of truth. I believe they love to project their own ugliness and weakness onto others.
The way he explained the concept of realities was the most accurate way I can ever think of for why people are so divided among religions
where pls give me time stamp
Accurate? Hahaha.. he so smoothly dodge his prophet's birth. Muhummad father was died 4 years before according to Hadis.
We can clearly see the hate for hinduisam by mohsin he doesn't know anything about hinduisam and aryan theory
I guess he certainly knows the real truth, but he is bending the truth in a way which suits for his propaganda...
We'll thts how certain people are, they're trained from childhood to hate hindus and spread hatred.
+1
+1
Hate? Give me the time stamp
Just started listening to this episode. Hoping to listen some rational opinions.
His Views..
1. Slave= Daasa
2. Buddhism is a missionary religion.
3. There were no temples in vedic periods.
4. Aryan Invasion theory is legit.
Hats off for the patience level of Ranveer..
This is not rational. He is repeating what British taught us and pro-left ppl what Indian to know.
Slave is not Dassa. Slave had no right in Islamic state but Das or servant have every right, if they want they can leave the service or rise the social hierarchy. And most importantly Dassa don’t have owners.
And u become Das willingly. Slave are caught and sold in market like livestock.
This is rational for u! 😂
He will not be successful in his propaganda. This should be his last podcast in this channel.
🤪
@@navanshisingh7820 who doesn't migrate bro. Indians have migrated to Canada and America. So after 1000s years if we found genes of Indians in America does this means we are more advance than them right now and they were nomadic people before that. Migration doesn't prove that there have been technology transfers nor does it prove that sanskrit was bought by them.
@@nirbhaykr299 exactly brother
I would like to see Mohsin Raza Khan in more podcasts to present alternate opinions and perspectives.
Although he was wrong in some factual data about horse , chariots but Sir please bring him ,,again .. he got wealth of knowledge to share,, he did very well explaining the relationship between persian and vedic sanskrit language, i also liked how he described the growth of civilization from tribal society to advanced civilization and by describing democracy from technological advancement prespective.
U have the evidence of horse and chariots. That will be the biggest find in recent history. Where is Ur evidence no one is able to find😂. Please provide evidence don't just talk in air
This man is liar
Abey bhosDK hasne se pahle thoda ancient history me indus valley civilization padh le nhi to at least ek simple google search karle.
@@funniestfun3753 Sinauli
@@RAHULGOUTHAM no anime Ramins found also no spocked week will not run very fast ! Be factual don't just see what one documentry is saying
From now on, Mohsin Raza Khan is my favourite comedian.
Even he looks like Owaisi
@@rosepainting8775 agreed 😂
Us bhai us
Earth is also flat according to him
Same here bro 🤣
I love that Indian Hindu are Awake They know what is right what is wrong .
The more i talk tp fellow indians the more i understand tht the number of awake hindus are less in percentage. Unfortuantely woke culture is supported by elite and ultraeducated hindus. Most of them genuinely have no idea about what is happening or cant be bothered or i am too busy to worry about these things or i dont care.
Still not awakened..sabka malik ek hai mere 🤭🤭
They are not awake. They just want to over glorify their religion and do not want to except any other point of view. This are two different things bro.
@@ayushiyogi2 change your name first librendu 😂 it's called Abrahamic or Islamic propaganda not different perspective lmao. Listen to this so called scholar perspective and you learn why people don't take seriously islamic perspective
@@ayushiyogi2 han bhai point of view ke naam pe aap secular churan chato bas.
Bring this guy again ranveer I want to learn how Hinduism was created by sewing in different gods together with a umbrella story.
I don't know the authenticity of all the facts he is talking about, but the amount of facts and information he has shared is just amazing. We got to learn so much.
I don't feel that it is correct to criticize someone because of the fact that what we believe is only correct.
Please be open to others views as well..
authenticity of facts is in question and you're praising him for facts.
bhai facts are based on truth ... how confused are you ?
@@akshaymalhotra2550exactly
We need to go with the proof and truth ...not this half knowledge....his focus was just an ego game want supremeacy but in a clean decent way....to make people believe him presenting certain crafted things
@@akshaymalhotra2550 you know this how.
In just 40 minutes i learnt this Beautiful facts🙌👌🙌
Slave=Dasa
We were not that trading= meanwhile Krishna coins in foreign
Sufism= Peace and love
Buddhism= missionary religion
No Mandirs in Vedic period
Aryan picnic theory is history 😆
Horses are not present= Bhimbetka caves hold my madda
Chariots are foreign= Mahabharata happened in DUKE Bike
Vedas = Qur'an Bible
Astrology is Iran's contribution🤪
Sanskrit is foreign from West
Hinduism=AIT ka gift
Hinduism philosophies= Hinduism religions
Ra is of Dravidian 🙌
wow old memories got aired again ..what a fun days were in school I used to learn this facts in my social textbook.
Thanks Ranveer Anna 👌
Ek muslim se history janoge to yhi milega 😂😂😂
😂👍
@@navanshisingh7820 not migration it was a picnic 😂😂
Thank you for saving my time🙂
Well you know who was the 1st,2nd,3rd,4th and 5th education minister of India. So one can easily figure out the history tainted by the Jihadis and leftist historians of India. It is not a 🚀 science to figure this thing out or connecting the dots too.
The Konark Sun Temple is explained in Sanskrit to have been designed as Sun God's chariot having 7 different horses. We Indians had horses in Ramayana's and Mahabharat's times.
Its definitely unbelievable that Horses are not native to Bharat
He is a peaceful...
Don't expect sense from him
For a second I felt it's Owaisi speaking.
True brother ☺️👌
Konark temple is not placed on horses but "Singha" ie tiger. although I am not saying horses were not there in india.. we sure did because we have evidences of it.. but just to correct you
He means to say our books are crap
Have U give a thought that the story of Mahabharat and Ramayana is written in less then 1000 years ago.
Best Comedy video ever.....what can we expect from a peaceful mind 😂
Pissfuls are desperate in changing history but they cant no matter what. 🤣😂
Piss 😂
@@experimentnation3612 what history ? mohemeds history ?
@@nia1425 you mean camel piss ? sunnat ?
would love a podcast on greek mythology...
btw thanks a lot to Ranveer and his team for bringing about these podcasts for us ❤
Ranveer my man, i was in that stage of my life when after being brought up in a middle class brahmin family from bengal and growing up i went secular at a stage and then after some tragedies of my life happened i turned to an atheistic ideology for life...
I'm a song-writer by profession, a content creator...
but was stuck in my creative space...
i followed beerbiceps long back when i was into fitness so i knew your face all along...
but recently my sister re introduced your podcasts to me...
at this stage, like u say a middle class boy usually has religious ideals because of the way he/she is brought up, then when we grow a lil older in colleges n stuff we see these things too critically and gradually turn to atheism...
And then comes the stage when we become spiritual looking for meaning in our own religion...
I'm back on the way of God because of you...
Lots of love...
Ranveer Allahbadia and team ❤🍻
Thank you for all the comments. I saved myself 1.5 hours.
Aacha huwa nahi dekha
😂
Same
Same .me naam dekh ke hi samj gya tha 😂😂
I realize that earlier I was influenced by some of the biased comments here and chose not to watch the podcast. But later I decided to watch it with an open mind. I must say that this is a very informative podcast. Everyone should watch it and try to understand the history of world from different perspective. Thank you Moshin Raza sir.
After reading the comments I think Abhijit chavda will get a lot of Questions. I don't think that this person can stand against Abhijit sir.
Now viewers started judging Historians by their religion.😂
I’m a 70 year old white American woman and I still have an open mind because I want to always be learning something new. I don’t want the world to become “beige “ 😊 because the diversity in people and cultures is what makes our world so unique and fascinating.
Great interview and discussion!
great to see a mature person all religions teach love and compassion but people like to argue and fight because of the difference in opinion rather than practising the good values
This man can do serious comedy.
Bring him back
Ha ha ha absolutely
🤣🤣
lmao
India's smartest podcast 🤡🤡
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
Chariots have disvovered in archeology in Sinauli his theory is wrong. Besides the barbarism of sufis is present throughout history. Sita Ram Goel, Ram Swaroop, R.C. Majumdar any day.
Exactly bhaiii... Exactly!!!
Lying and distorting history...What else can u expect from a Abdul
@@Itachi_Uchia1 once a muslim always a muslim. Remember that.
This man just spit venom against hinduism in this podcast.
He is an Is -lamist, so you can't expect anything truly intellectual from these people bcos of their biased attitude towards their barbaric cult. In short, he is doing 'Intellectual Ji -had'
I am amazed by how the thought process of every viewer is in sync, before clicking the video most of us are reaching for comments, which we never do for other videos on TRS I had a vague idea that may be this guy will speak nonsense and I checked the comment first and thank god I did that, makes me wonder where his so called knowledge comes from, why are people of other religion so staunch on distorting the real facts about bharat and its history.
Mind blowing interview ❤. Really opened many block of the mind
If India didn't had horses back then in ancient times, then how the hell we performed Ashwamedha yagya?? back then thousands year ago.....
Horses, rhinoceros, tapirs, and many other such mammals evolved in India more than 50 million years ago, an international team of fossil hunters has found, analysing hundreds of tiny pieces of fossils retrieved from a lignite mine in Gujarat over 15 years.With more than 350 new fossils, the study pieces together a nearly complete picture of the skeletal anatomy of the Cambaytherium - a sheep-sized extinct cousin of the ancestors of horses and rhinos that lived on the Indian subcontinent almost 55 million years ago.
This guy is just distorting history with his half baked knowledge
@@20-aman leave this rahul Gandhi podcast
but no evidence of domestication before the Aryans.
India is world's only place with tropical climate , its the place where even lizards, mosquitos , tortoise and every living being can live here , and horses you cab even see them on sculptures of temples and in mahabharatham book , shree krishna and arjun ride on the chariot of horses . Period .
@@alani3992 Indus valley has evidences of horses you need to search muttonhead boy...the tooths of horses are clearly found in IVC...also horse chariots are found in sinauli dating back to atleast 4000 years
Das=Servant
not slave..India never had any slave history even Western historians agree to it I don't know from where he got the translation of das to slave😂..there are people with Das surname that does not mean they are slave for example Gaurnaga Das means...Das(Servant) Of Gauranga(Another name of Chaintaya Mahaprabhu).
Exactly, thank god we people don't fall for these people's propoganda anymore and know the reality.
Yes 🤣
Perfect
Even in rigveda itself greatest king of rigveda is raja sudas ,his father divodas
Wait a minute, Slave is not dasa.
Slave is the one who is forced to be a slave without freedom.
Dasa is the servent who selfwilled to serve someone like God as long as one wants, maintaining freedom.
Slavery is alien to Vedic civilization. there is no word for a forced slaved in sanskrit or in our ancient sanatan vedic civilisation. slavery is against dharma.
Aryan invasion theory is leftist fruad. Arya is not a race it is title given to ancient educated people who graduated from Vedic-buddhist universities and gurukul education systems. Arya means Nobel. for eg. Buddhism has concept of 4 Aryasatta (4 Nobel truth.). Arya = Nobel, Satta/Satya/Satt = Truth. Nobody is Arya by birth it is earned by karma/achievements/actions/siddhi and gunas/skills/talent. accoding to our hindu and buddhist scriptures.
that completely exposed this evil aryan-dravidian political separatism myth.
This is the first time ranbeer and us the audience has learnt something out of the box. Where you dont know have any clue about what’s coming next… thought expansion podcast ❤❤❤
Ranbir! how fascinating that you would very respectfully take up points of discord. Thank you!
Ranveer your expression when he says India was not in contact with the rest of the world is priceless
Time stamp?
the secret of sinauli dekho chariot mila tha
You picked the 1 thing he said that was not totally true, but how about the logical step by step outlining of the multiple origin of beliefs.
@@alani3992 all false
Bring the tantric back
Thank you to all the guys who commented ....u all saved my 1+ hour 🙏
bacha hua ek ghanta ab desh nirmaan m jaayega.. lol
Mine too
Your welcome
@@Desikhagad69 desh nirmit hai
Please don't waste time watching. This fool Muslim lied about each and everything
That's why every religion is different bcz everyone has their own mindset n nothing wrong in the,, respect perspective of each person.
I have listened to many of your podcasts. This was one of the most informative. And raises two key questions.
1. Why haven't there been any "New" established & society changing religions / theistic beliefs.
2. With all these learnings, how are scholars influencing the leaders & followers on what direction will the society take. It seems that "specific" dialogue is absent. And it seems that it is being used more for political gain without true "spiritual" influence. By "spiritual" I mean to say true spirit of the society & its elements. Would love to listen to a long 2-3 hour debate in one of your podcast with a few scholars / economists / political representatives on it. National vs International Dialogue.
He is telling the story form a Muslim mindset.
I watched this just bcoz of you ranveer Bhai but trust me it was nothing less then a third degree 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha brainwash Indian it better than gobar bakht sanghis😂😂
But i didn't found any muslim angle
Am I missing something?
@@shxhidplays ya... brain
@@shxhidplays he siad sufism was sprititual when you know that sufis were most barbaric people ever😂😂
Correct you seen his hidden agenda
Thank you guys for all your comments. I saved almost 1.5 hrs of my life . 🙏🏼❤️
Your surname is Das that that means you are a slave according to this man😂😂
@@Nero6570 Jihadi thought process. Might be written in Quran 🤣
@@militdas5962 Absolutely spot on.
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
Jihaadis like this must know that he failed badly
There used to be a time when such jihadist historians were believed and respected but now,no more comment section shows that indians are aware of facts
Fabulous episode. Please make 2 more episodes with same guy.
1. Pegan Religion.
2. Connection between Zoroastronism and Hinduism (or Indo-Greek civilization.)
He said chariot were not found in India but 2 years ago we found a chariot in sinauli😄😄..also evidences of horses are found in Indus valley.
This guy just here to present his propaganda but the comments are doing their job
Arey mitr Sinauli chhodo.. Mahabharat yaad karo.. shriKrishna aur Arjun Samvad yaad kijiye!
Ox chariots.
@@alani3992 no camel chariots abdul 😜
@@alani3992 war chariots driven by ox?'😂😂😂😂...the burials of men and womens found beside the chariots were of warriors ..also the height of chariot indicates that it was driven by horses.. first do some research rather than speaking lies just to support a bogus theory😂😂😂😂the model of the chariots match with the chariots mentioned in RIGVEDA
Congrats Ranveer almost 1.25 hours conversation..👏👏
Seems like your meditation is helping you listening so calmly which I can't 😉
I take this learning from this podcast 😃😃
After listening to this podcast, my respect for ranveer has really increased. Please bring us a video on how to control anger without showing it
Sinauli and rakhigarhi excavations are older than aryan invasion theory. Chariot found at sinauli and dna studies show that all indians had same DNA north to south and no aryans ever invaded with horses.
Pashupati is a deity from harappa mohenjo-daro which are literally named after Mohan(Vishnu) and Har(Shiva). He says Shiva came after pashupati. How is that even possible? Ramayana and Mahabharata whiçh are 12000 and 6000 years old mention Shiva and Vishnu as deities too! He is either a fraud or completely out of his mind!
Ranveer please also call Dr. Niraj Rai to understand his findings when it comes to DNA world.
Too good
TRS has amazing podcasts. It is amazing to find a respectful listening ear. For me, I dont have to agree with or believe the speakers. But their studies do broaden our knowledge. I cant imagine reading it all and being attached to lines/texts from anywhere. However, the soul resonates with wisdom. But some facts are conflicting like Mughals using astrology or horses part... and also even if I care would like to detach. Brave questions. And speaker was open to be counter questioned ... this is precious. Especially in a internet full of trolls.
His education background is
"Mr. Khan possesses a master’s in international economics and international relations from the School of Advanced International Studies, The Johns Hopkins University, with a specialization in South Asia. He also has an MA in Global Political Economy from the University of Hull where he was a British Chevening Scholar. His undergraduate degree is in economics from the University of Delhi."
Whatever he is saying is definitely only his self delusional deductions. No linguistic or historian or archaeologist background but he is so confident about his deductions.
What about the background of Chawda & co. 😂
@@nonameno5660chavda is whatsapp university graduate 😂
I loved today's comedy session.
The best part was India didn't have horses 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Seriously ranveer kaha se pakar ke la rahe ho yaar🤣
Tu baba ramdev ki history padta reh😁
@@sheikhabid9658 bdsk , kabhi toh hole kisika .
Bro,Don't disrespect but the facts are that in 2016-17 excavation of Sinauli proved that Horses existed in India
@Allah Slutty Whore Trans (SWT) yeh kab hua 😳😳😳
@@sheikhabid9658 MATLAB Tu Aryan invasion ko manta hai 🤔
Small request MR. ranveer please bring mr. Chavda specially for ARYAN PICNIC THEORY.
PLEASE DO A SPECIFIC PODCAST ON THAT TOPIC WITH ALL QUESTIONS.
😂
Raj vedam of sangam talks
Cause he is going to say the answer liked by you?
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂🤣😂🤣
Like always an amazing podcast.
He mentions about Vishnu in dwarflike form. That is considered as vaman avatara of Lord Vishnu, his 5th Avatara. So his statement "Vishnu is not how we imagine him to be, in the orginial story he is dwarf who works with Gods." Thats because Vamana avatar is not the original story, it is just one part of the whole evolution of various avatars. Same can be said about Rudra. Thats why Lord Shiva gave pashupatashtra to Arjuna in Mahabharat. Our ancient scriptures covers wide knowledge around this.
You are a fool if you believe in these fictional books and believing them to be facts.
@@derikcj7137 beautiful thing about sanatan Dharma is whether you consider the scriptures for real or only in their symbolic sense, their effect will be magnificent. That doesn't mean take every word or action mentioned in scriptures in a literal sense. They are not rulebooks. The idea is to raise awareness of life, consciousness and state of being. But it's good that you are not reading them or believing them. Because for some ignorants in the world there is no solace. Goodluck 👍🏼
Bro. I have got an interesting idea. How about a constructive debate between Abhijit Chavda and Mohsin Raza Khan on the same line of debate between Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock and michael shermer, This woud be really eye opening and highly educative. Both are gentlemen, well educated and would never descend into a fight. Please please consider this bro. This would be awesome. Topic would be Aryan Invasion theory. At the end, I would like to see them smile and shake hands (even say agree to disagree 🙂)
Pashupati is a deity from harappa mohenjo-daro which are literally named after Mohan(Vishnu) and Har(Shiva). He says Shiva came after pashupati. How is that even possible? Ramayana and Mahabharata whiçh are 12000 and 6000 years old mention Shiva and Vishnu as deities too! He is either a fraud or completely out of his mind!
Including sai deepak . He is legend
Would be good idea, because Chavda tends to omit facts that are uncomfortable, & magnify only certain facts.
He seems to be on a certain 1 track only, rather than logically going step by step.
Upvote option needed
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Dude just took the legacy of peaceful community forward 🙌🏻
You stole my name bro😭😂
what does your name say?
@@akeeracy22 can't you see
@@UK04T bhai tujhe kyun takleef ho rahi hai? Aur itna hi clear dikh raha hai toh sarcasm nahi dikha mera bsdk.
@@akeeracy22 that i am a sanatani who doesn't kill people if they don't worship my God ❤️
Thank you Ranveer .
You are looking pure and you have clean heart and clear vision.
Very insightful and thumbs up Ranveer for bringing guests from different school of thoughts. I am still searching for the unbiased theory on the origins of Aryans and Dravidians and seems it’s not so simple to conclude.
Ranveer anna
Please call lawyer Sai Deepak garu.
Really waiting for his episode , he is the boss when it comes to history.
After listening to this joker, we really need Sai Deepak to refresh our mind
@@rosepainting8775
I just watched for 5-10 minutes and i didnt like his presentation . Then I felt like sai deepak should have been there.
Sai Deepak would have relished to cut him to pieces...this peaceful man.
Exactly brother ,i learned this in my primary school
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
There were no temples and still archaeologists found temples as old as 10000 years old 😅
In saudi arabia yeah 8000year old temple found fk this taklu
dimag mein jb maz-hub ka nasa chada ho to insan z@hil bn jata hai
U mean in India where?? Provide evidence
This is so knowledgeable. I love your show a lot and it really keeps me grounded or i try to be, thanks again.
Watch Abhit Chawla's trs episodes
Absolutely brilliant episode
*Makkeshawar*
Hindus circumbulate Shivling.
360 is very special to us...showing all directions
all idols under one roof
Shivling is too special
Imagine ...the Lingam in Kashi was plundered, more than half of the temple was converted to a mosque but we Hindus still go and worship
there is a reason why fire is/was worshipped in Iran
Can Sinauli burials be non-Vedic?
Some analysts are dismissing Sinauli as un related to Vedic culture or Samskṛtī because the people are buried instead of cremated. It is sure cremation is popular in Sanātana Dharma, but burials are also present in our tradition. Burials are also mentioned in Ṛgveda as one of the ways in which the dead individuals are treated, as we have already seen. Another doubt that has arisen is due to the design of the head-gears. The head-gear of some of the warriors contains horns. In the current depictions of our ancient people, the horned-headgear is associated with the Daityas and the Dānavas. It will be misleading to conclude that Sinauli is non-Vedic based on these factors alone.
The Bharatas and their ancestors were an admixture of the Ādityas, the Daityas and the Dānavas.
The ancestral king Yayāti had two wives Devayāni and Ṡarmiṣthā. Devayāni, is the daughter of Daitya Guru Ṡukrāchārya. She is the mother of Yadu and Turvaṡa, the eldest sons of Yayāti. Ṡarmiṣthā is the daughter of the Daitya king Vṛṣaparvā. She is the mother of Anu, Druhyu and Pūru, the younger sons of Yayāti.
The mother of all the Yadavas is Devayāni and the mother of Pūru, the founder of the Pūru dynasty is Ṡarmiṣthā, both Daitya women. The Bharatas descended from the Pūrus and the Kurus like the Pāndavas and Kauravas descended from the Bharatas. Kṛṣṇa, Balarāma and other Vṛṣnis descended from the Yadavas. The Dānavas like Maya were allies of the Paṇḍavas who gave them many weapons and chariots.
The chariot of Arjuna came from Varuṇa, who is revered by the Bhargava sages like the Asura Guru Sukrachārya and by the sages in the lineage of Vasiṣṭha and Agastya. Vasiṣṭha was the priest of Sri Rama. Vyasa was the descendant of Vasiṣṭha and the grandfather and guide of the Paṇḍavas.
The Ṛgveda mentions many wars and the Purāṇas render them as the wars between the Devas and the Asuras. But if we analyse the Ṛgveda closely, these wars are fought between the people who worship Indra (like the Purus and the Bharatas) and the other people who don't worship Indra (like the Anus and the Druhyus). The Purāṇas portrayed the people who do not worship Indra as the Asuras, categorizing them as Daityas and Dānavas. The word used by Ṛgveda for the non-Indra worshipers is anindra (those who are without Indra) and avrata (those who don't have any devotion to Indra). The Sinauli settlement with their burial practices and horned head-gears can as well belong to the groups affiliated to the Daitya-Dānavas like Maya Dānava.
But this doesn't make them non-Vedic, because Dānavas like Maya do have a place in our Veda, Itihasa Purāṇas.
The Analysis of the Place Names
The place Sinauli falls in the Kuru Rāṣtra, or the Kuru Janapada, the region between Ganga in the east and Sarasvati in the west and divided by Yamuna into two parts. A place named after Maya viz. Mayastali or Mayarāṣtra (Meerut, 52 km away) is close to Sinauli. The places mentioned in the Mahābhārata like the Vyāghra-prasta (Baghpat, 25 km away), Svarna-prasta (Sonipat, 29 km away), Paniprasta (35 km away), Varanavati (21 km away) are close to Sinauli. Hastinapura is 75 km to the east and Indraprasta is 55 km to the south of Sinauli. Paruṡurāma Kṣetra (now Alamgirpur, the eastern most Harappan settlement, 3300-1300 BCE) is 33 km away from Sinauli, where Paruṡurāma taught weaponry to Bhīṣma. The region around Sinauli is dotted with places resembling chariot construction such as Rathora (Rathakāra - chariot-maker, 6 km away) and Luhara (Lohakāra - metal worker, 2 km away).
The name Sinauli is likely a derived form of Sina-sthali, similar to the other place-names in Kuru Rashtra ending with the suffix 'sthali' (meaning - a place) like Bastali (Vyasa-sthali), Bamanauli (Brahmana-sthali). The place names in Kuru Rashtra, contains suffixes like Prasta, Sthali and Kṣetra. The word 'sina' means a 'store’, 'garment' 'fetter', 'bond', 'body' etc, implying that it is one of the places associated with making chariots and weapons. Probably the people who lived in this Sinauli settlement were a warrior class of men and women supplying weapons to the army of the kings.
Sinauli and the Kurukṣetra War
Whether the warriors buried in the Sinauli burials participated in the Kurukṣetra War as one among the many small military units, depends on the chosen date of the Kurukṣetra War. Sinauli excavations are dated to 2100 BCE to 1900 BCE.
One of the Kurukṣetra War dates close to it is 1793 BCE proposed by Shri Ashok Bhatnagar. If we take this Kurukṣetra War as the basis, then the Sinauli warriors were 100 to 300 years older to the Kurukṣetra War, placing them as part of the late Ṛgvedic period, during the formative periods of the 1st, 5th, 8th, 9th or the 10th Maṇḍalas, especially the 10th Maṇḍala. Several battles are mentioned in these Maṇḍalas too, like in the older Maṇḍalas. With the Kurukṣetra War date at 1793 BCE, we can date Samtanu mentioned in the 10th Maṇḍala of Ṛgveda to around 1930 BCE. Samtanu is the youngest king in the lineage of the Bharata kings mentioned in the Ṛgveda, who also appear as the ancestors of the Pāṇḍavas and the Kauravas who waged the Kurukṣetra War.
In the linage of kings leading to the Pāṇḍavas, the Ṛgveda stops at Samtanu. In the linage of sages leading to Vyāsa, the Ṛgveda stops at Parāṡara. Samtanu’s son Vicitravīrya and Parāṡara’s son Vyāsa is in the future of Ṛgveda. Dhṛtarāṣtra and Pāṇdu are the next generation of Vicitravīrya and Vyāsa. The Kauravas and the Pāṇḍavas who took place in the Kurukṣetra War are in the next generation of Dhṛtarāṣtra and Pāṇdu. Thus, this date 1793 BCE corroborates well with our analysis that the chariot and the Sinauli burial sites belong to the 10th Maṇḍala funeral hymns which speaks about the burials.
Another date of Kurukṣetra War 1952 BCE is from Shri Mohan Gupta. If we follow this date, then this settlement falls right in the Kurukṣetra War period. The 3K Kurukṣetra War dates of Shri Vedaveer Arya (3162 BCE) and Manish Pandit (3067 BCE) will make the settlement well into the future of the lifetime of the Kuru-Paṇḍavas during the lifetime of their descendants named in the Purāṇas like Viṣṇu Purāṇa. There is another date by Shri KK Ramamurthy at 1504 BCE and RN Iyengar at 1478 BCE which will make this settlement part of the middle Ṛgvedic period of Maṇḍala 2 and 4, closer to the lifetime of the sages like Gr̥tsamada and kings like Sahadeva and Somaka or even to the early period of Maṇḍala 6, 3 and 7, closer to the lifetime of the kings like Sudās and Divodāsa depending upon the variability in the chronology of the Maṇḍala wise evolution of the Ṛgveda.
too informative man 🙏🙏
Thanks for your information but can you please share some journals, research papers any archeological evidence report by any of the countries regulating body or a University…also please mention if this is a primary source or secondary mostly seems to be secondary but still asking to clear the doubt..
Listen to shrikant talageri ...He has the answer...
Dood give me your insta Id .
Love your information .
Thank you
Damn this comment section 😔........just because he has a different perspective doesn't mean he is wrong or right ..............the motive of this show is to listen to all sides of the stories..... Keep yourself open keep your mind open
It's called freedom of expression, people can give their opinion.
Aryan invention theory is nonsense DNA testing already proved that, so keep yourself open keep your mind open.
Yeah u r absolutely ryt!
Dat audience r not able to listen his perspectives!
But Der s also a reason fo this! He s preaching what is in our textbooks which has been set by the west!
How can we argue the facts?
Chariots n horses not from India
Shiva not from India
Sanskrit is not from India
I mean wat abt ashwamedha yagna, ashwinikumaras- Sona of twin horses, bhagavadgita, kurukshetra war, dasharatha??? I mean v can go on!!
Common v can't argue the facts na! N though fo a min I think dat s ryt, dude his analysis n reasoning s juztt bullshit!
He s picking on particular thing n not seeing the whole picture here! If he says Sanskrit originated from hindi hw cab one believe it's a joke dude! Common!!
पिछले कुछ समय से विशेष ज्ञान वाले वैज्ञानिकों को सुनते आ रहे हैं जो कहते हैं पुरानी सभ्यता के कुछ निशान होते हैं । वो प्रत्यक्ष को ही प्रमाण मानते हैं । जब भी सभ्यता हो उसने कुछ अवशेष छोड़ना चाहिए ।
उनसे प्रश्न यह है की किसी भी वस्तु की आयु होती हैं या नहीं? यदि हाँ तो उसकी अवधि क्या है? उत्तर नहीं भी पता हो, पर यह स्वयं सिद्ध हैं की वह काल का ग्रास है । समय के साथ उसमें परिवर्तन होगा ।
जो परिवर्तनशील है वह यथा स्थिति में होना असंभव है ।
संभव क्या है? वह जो परिवर्तन से असंबद्ध हैं । वह है ज्ञान ।
इससे यह सिद्ध होता हैं की प्रत्यक्ष आवश्यक नहीं यदि ज्ञान हो तो। अतः उन सभी वैज्ञानिकों से अनुरोध है केवल खोदकर प्रमाण न निकालें अपितु ज्ञान पर भी ध्यान दें ।
It's been 11+ months...please get Mohsin Raza Khan back on for part II.
My grandfather's name was Durga Das. Like many Punjabi Pandits he was a slave to Durga 😭 sad life being a slave to a powerful female heavenly being. Thank you sir for mansplaining our religion and culture not even Brahman (God) itself could educate us so well🙏
I understand your sarcasm. but for brainwashed I have to write this to unwash them.
Wait a minute, Slave is not dasa.
Slave is the one who is forced to be a slave without freedom.
Dasa is the servent who selfwilled to serve someone like God as long as one wants, maintaining freedom.
Slavery is alien to Vedic civilization. there is no word for a forced slaved in sanskrit or in our ancient sanatan vedic civilisation. slavery is against dharma.
Aryan invasion theory is leftist fruad. Arya is not a race it is title given to ancient educated people who graduated from Vedic-buddhist universities and gurukul education systems. Arya means Nobel. for eg. Buddhism has concept of 4 Aryasatta (4 Nobel truth.). Arya = Nobel, Satta/Satya/Satt = Truth. Nobody is Arya by birth it is earned by karma/achievements/actions/siddhi and gunas/skills/talent. according to our hindu and buddhist scriptures.
that completely exposed this evil aryan-dravidian political separatism myth.
Aap ka sarcasm is top notch! 😂
Bhai sarcasm ke liye 🫡
@@Yogi_The_Bitter_Truth_2408 🧡
Did you know that the word ‘Muslim’ means ‘Submission to the will of God’ essentially meaning ‘Slave to God’
I loved Ranveer's reaction after he said there no horses in Vedic civilization 😂
Damn🤯🤯🤯
Listen to abhijit, we actually did not had horses
He was talking about no horses in the Indus Valley civilization (not vedic). He said the vedic people brought the horses from Central Asia
@@ckastic don't listen to anybody.....watch a documentary or read about the Sinauli excavation and you will see their lies getting exposed pretty easily.....
@@malavpandya2543 the so called 'vedic people' didn't come from central Asia
This was a great episode and I learned a lot it and would love to see the conversation with this guest again
My recommendation to the channel would be that in the end they should ask the speaker to suggest some readings/books/articles to expand more on what the podcast contains.
"Never trust a person who cannot look you into the eye"
Exactly bro 🤣
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
@@Servant_of_1111 look who is talking a sh!thead NRI 🤣😂 LibranduuuuU
True😂
@@Servant_of_1111 haha
I wish I had patience like Ranveer 🙏
😂😂😂😂me to iska takla foddeta
exactly
😅😂😂😂
Ranveer was impressed by him.
🤣🤣
Great information
Bring Mr Mohsin for some other topics
His knowledge is based on research
Guest mentioned - The concept of Jewish yawaha being supreme god emerged.. even his name cannot be mentioned coz he is so sacred.. kind of predecessor to Allah.. for new God new laws has to be given.. these prophet keep coming and teaching morals when there was no judicial system in place.. prophet are serving as judges, guides etc
33:50 what about the chariots found in Rakhigarhi?
I never knew ranveer does comedy shows... Way to go brother ❤️
Hurt ho gya kyaa 😂😂😂😂
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
@@Servant_of_1111 Professor? Who?
@@krishnateja6627 you people believe historians like PN OAK
@@Asshu471 no Meenakshi jain, konerad elest, srikant talegeri
Bring him back again, I listen to the complete video some of things are true and false. And I like different kind of views, I like abhijeet sir and mohsin sir is also a good speaker. Love to learn from them. And thank you ranbeer for these awesome videos. India is now having a podcast culture, a different style of audible learning experience. I love this. I listen your podcast and Raj shamanis and dostcast, abhijeet chavada and ani's these are making Indians to grow their mind and boosting confidence on this country.
It was interesting to listen to a different perspective , It would be nice to have a few historians with expertise on different regions like South India and North India, Malay Archipelago, China, Japan, Persia, Africa, Europe discuss together in a positive way regarding ancient history and civilisation. I'm simply putting it as South India and North India because there seems to be excavation there regrading old civilization like keezhadi. So if an expert on the culture and history can represent would be nice to hear their view as well.
i thought my history is worst, but i guess these two guys are also in my league.
Add more podcasts like this with these hypocrites calling themselves historians. And, you will loose a regular viewer. Nothing else. Carry on. 🧡
Same.
Yes he was trying to spread his propogenda but he will never be successful.
Well said
@@huzi936 Firstly, read history beyond those textbooks. Then, you will understand. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge about Bhimbetka caves & Sinauli excavation, he's not a historian. Aryan theory is proved wrong by your dear Europeans. But, this guy is only spreading propaganda. It's not about religion. It's about mentality. And, if you think that those Nehruvian historians know all about history. Then, you are wrong. Wait few decades, this old hypocrites being colonial historians will vanish with their propaganda. None will listen to them. We will correct our text books. We already have set the narrative. From history of Khilji to Babar, we will establish the history of Ahom, Chola & Suhel dev. So dear left leaning Abdul chacha, you can have peace now. ✌️ 🧡
@@huzi936 If you think that you, left leaning hypocrites are more educated than us. Then, you are wrong. You only know that much of history that your Chinese masters has put into your brain. Read Das Kapital by your uncle Max and read about all the atrocities of Stalin. Then, you will understand Communism only sound good on paper, not in real world. So, don't lecture anyone about being bhakt. It's your kind who is truly blind & live in fantasy. 🧡
Mahabharat had horses, rathas, it was even written about how many men, elephants, horses etc made an akshouhini..a military unit
It’s an art to be confident in your ignorance. This dude is an artist.
🤣🤣💯
Like BJP leaders
During the whole podcast I was really wondering what Ranveer was thinking 😄😄
😂😂😂
Salvation
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
Rss became shock
@@cheltooktribefreethinker1028 yes . Let's drag RSS to look cool 🙂
India don't have horses,India don't have onions,potato, they say even mango is not Indian 🤣🤣🤣
Today's is a comedy show in all sense 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ks77157 Credit: Quran
As a student of Agriculture, Vavilov gave the concept 'centre of origin'. Potato is from Peru. Onion and Mango truly are indigenous gems of ours.
yes onions and potato were introduced in India byu Europeans
india have very little population of horses probably
Most of the comments speak ill again Mohsin Raza Khan. But I'm glad I saw the complete video as I learnt so much. And it's okay to have different opinions but its wrong not to respect others opinions. Very narrow minded audience found in Ranveer s podcast. However Ranveer is so eager to learn from all his podcasts.
Yeah because he talks shit
True that. Seems like most of his viewers aren't as open minded as him
What a podcast. A Gem in itself. Especially I got so concentrated and rapt in silence (i see even Ranveer too) from 1:06 through the evolution of axial religions. Such a great explanation. It really requires an open mind ( in other words courage (1st cardinal value for Greeks as mentioned by Mohsin) to be open to Truth) that shakes one's inherent beliefs. Mohsin also explains why it is difficult to be Open telling us about Ontological/Cognitive Security near 41:00 that threatens people with almost severe non physical pain..But for people who comes out of the Comfort zone, it helps to go closer to the Truth. So this Podcast should have a Caution: Seriously for the Courageous :) . I want to add one last comment: Any Evidence based Science (I mean History too including all the General Sciences) Compared to Spirituality and Religion has one serious disadvantage. It will definitely lift you from Ignorance at the Intellectual level but will not guarantee the experience of Enlightenment and Joy or either worldly Peace, and Love that Spirituality or Religion offers( Ranveer mentions it as the Beauty of Spirituality at then end of it) , Science will just lifts you from the rut but hangs you in the middle. Also some people use Science and Atheism to escape from the effort and ego sacrifice (surrender) a person has to put to evolve into Higher Consciousness.
@0:30 completely wrong. We do have native horses in India. Or pray tell how are their horses in Ramayan ,Mahabharat?
Exactly!
Could be possible that those horses were imported foreign land at that time.
Right. I was thinking about mahabharat and ramayan
Kaikeyi, step mom of Rama was from Iran. Infact there was a Hindu king named Dusharat who ruled Turkey. ...it is corrupted name of the original name Dusharath. It is in turkey that they found a tablet written in sanskrit about training of horses. So, Mohsins claim that India dint have horses is false. A chariot was discovered in Sanauli ...so was that carried by cows?
Also, sufis were not spiritual at all....they were the eyes of their kings( from. Islamized Iran), to keep eyes on kashmir. The intro of your guest dint appeal to me to see this episode.
My Boi spitting facts ah🕉
Kaikai*
Yeah kaikai*
It is not established that Sanauli chariot found there carried by horses. They are struggling to find that animal as they figure out that the chariot found were not ment for horses.
I’m not historian but I guess you are right
I don’t know why but I didn’t agree with some of the points so in the middle started reading out comments
So glad I watched the full video. And did not stop owing to the harsh the comments on it.
The comments reflects mindset of majority Indians.. people from western countries respect and find Indian history interesting and listen but Indians can’t tolerate when someone differs from their perception. He might not be right but comments are worse than listening to him .
man , i must commend ranveer for keeping a straight face throughout this whole podcast
Lol..
Why ?
That's why he was asking many follow up questions because he was paying attention to the FACTS being stated. I struggle to keep a straight face when listening to Abhijeet Chavda.
He is correct actually.. RW Nutjob
33:50 Five horses of Arjun's chariot were imported ?
Sigauli sight of India have found 5000 years old chariots ignore him he is just distorting history.
@@ommmmm7 bhimbetka
There were arab travellers that came to India....through both gujrat and kerala.....first mosque in India was in kerala aligning to the same lifetime of prophet muhammed pbuh
So glad to read comments and save my time, thanks a lot
Horses are orignally not from india 🐸
Mahabharat ke Ratho(chariots) me to bakriyaa lagi thi !! Hai n !? 🌝😂
😂
Are UP mein rath ke saath horse remain mil bhi chuke hain.
😆😆😆..Yes and he forgot bhimbetka caves
Mahabhart had no archaeological evidence it's a books which has been changed time to time
@@abhishekkumaranshu2818 tumhara evidance hai ....!!?🗿🌝
“Truth is not what you want it to be; it is whet it is. And you must bend to its power or live a lie” ~ Miyamoto Musashi
I was planning to watch this video and then I looked at the comments. Thanks everyone , you saved me 1.5 hours.
One of the best podcast done on this channel, on par with Joe Rogan and Lex i would say.
What else I can expect from a peaceful mind.
U think he is muslim just because of his name?? 😂😂 he doesnt even believe in islamic teachings.. he is talking about history. Ppl are so dumb here in this comment section.
Only peaceful mind can tell you the truth if you can digest it. 😊
Ranveer please bring this comedian back again, he is funny guy
U must be son of human and bull
Why don't you just listen to the speaker and keep your own opinion rather than trashing the speaker?
because somethings which may be valid sound harsh you just make a joke of the speaker, instead try yourself to counter them with your theory.
@@bolokesari does he says truth??
Before ranting bs
Just align urself with truth
If u don't know any facts or evidences
Shut ur cooking mouth
@@bolokesari he is a propagandist...and propagandists have no opinion but propaganda😏😏
Praise the supreme lord SriKrishna. Jai Sri Krishna
Dear viewers thanks a lot for saving my time. With your valuable comments I'm enlightened.