"Solve a problem and you won't have to evangelize blockchain" This, sir, would be the most concise way to sum up my feelings about crypto in general. Thankyou for this!
To most judgmental parasites, who haven’t seen one of your many videos (Ill save you the trouble) by explain to there close minded prehistoric brains.. Ben was once a Golden gloves boxer, and an MMA fighter.. The eyebrow is not fashion, it came from taking a hit, that almost ripped his eye out.. All part of the sport 🫶🏻 So, have fun making fun of him in person.. A true wolf in sheep’s clothing 😉🇮🇪
Makes no sense to me how if something is even slightly unique about someone's appearance, some people just can't deal with it and have to ask the person about it or why it's there, no matter how benign it is.
super appreciate learning about Exportify. Losing my playlists has been one of my biggest obstacles to leaving the platform. Also, I fully support copyright ending at death, but unfortunately most artists don't own their work and major labels rarely "die".
A somehow better alternative IMHO would be for the copyright to end after a far more logical time limit than it is today. 10, maybe 20 years. I don't see why a copyrighted work should provide it's creator income "for life".
@@lindenbasket I just put the songs on a cloud service (some are free if you don't have many songs/use up lots of data space, or you can use multiple email accounts for example for completely free cloud services) and stream from there or I just download the songs to a file and listen from that.
@@djgeorgetsagkadopoulosNo way, that's too short. We musicians want to have kids man! We want to leave assets. Yes, investments, property, etc but ownership of our recorded creative works is also an asset and one very close to our heart.
🙌Thanks for your thoughtful response here. I appreciate what you do! Also the caveats you have to pile on re: shorting, etc. 100% respect your skin in the game here. And admittedly part of my response was based on the me being in the minority of people who Spotify boosts algorithmically, where they're effectively paying me to put my music in front of new listeners. Especially appreciate your take on physical media as not as virtuous as people make out. I've pointed many people to your vinyl video. As an ex-Earth scientist, it hurts to have so many people point at vinyl and shipping things around (and blockchain! and don't @ me proof-of-stake fans). Also appreciate the callout of Audius's scammy, pump-and-dump shaped strategy. Mentioned this elsewhere on the other video -- open source software saw one of the most enormous wealth transfers, from developers to tech giants, in that Amazon, Google, and others built their cloud empires on free and open source software without paying the people who made it (except occasional voluntary contributions back). Those of us who make things that fall under the IP bucket have to be very careful, it's one of the few paths to owning something of value without having to buy it. But it's also the most imaginary form of property, requiring social contracts and behavioral norms for people to get paid. And there are vultures ready to descend if we're not vigilant about protecting it. The most important thing to do right now is exactly what you're doing: starting the conversation then keeping it going. So thank you! We all need to keep this discussion going until we can figure out some place that's better than where we are now and realistic steps we can take to get there.
Thank you for taking the time to dig into this and taking the time to address the peanut gallery. It matters and it's good content and it's gratefully received.
Not in agreement with your assessment of Spotify and streaming, but your breakdown on how much it would cost to return to physical formats was brilliant. Great work there. Thank you.
Every time i listen to you, I can hear and feel the commonsense oozing from every fiber of your being. Thank you. And I hope without sounding patronizing, keep up the very good work!
I came out of the last video in bit of a soul crushing funk. This, like so many other real world problems, just feels so big and complex that I struggle to wrap my head around a solution. I love that you are both a champion for these solutions and a voice of calm reason in a sea of typical binary rage. As someone who has obviously done a lot of work getting informed about the problem and it’s solutions (or potentials) how can I learn more about being part of that solution (in addition to the info from your patreon)?
True, tech in general and the web in particular seems to be moving into ever more exclusive set of companies that get to set the rules. This is in essence a tech problem in addition to IP-law/capitalism problem. With spotify it's very similar to audible, where there's no way to compete with it and anyone who tried would run into the same issues Benn highlighted in his video. I'm not a Spotify hater, I love the convenience and feel absolutely zero guilt from using it. That being said, would I want there to be competition and see creators paid well? Yes, yes I would (also fuck the labels). I've never made enough money to spend on all the music I listen to though, and if there was no Spotify, I would pirate my music like I used to. What I think will happen is that slowly but surely the prices for streaming go up, and piracy goes up as well. I don't see these companies completely failing, just bleeding the industry dry without addressing the underlying problems. I hope someone smarter than me comes up with a way to do all of this open source with a model that pays artists and cuts the middle men while keeping all the functionality and piracy low with low pricing.
There isn't much we can do about anything outside of our local bubble. Change what you can, break what you have to, try to do things that will help you sleep and enjoy your short little amazing blip in time.
13:29 love that you say "we" when talking about what future generations wont understand about our intellectual property scheme. Wholesome af. Great video. Always appreciate your educational content, which is actually how i discovered your youtube. Though recently I dove into your discography and its so fucking good I cant begin to describe how much it had elevated my mood the last couple of weeks so thank you so much!
You should absolutely do financial pundit work for different platforms about this. It’s really interesting and will help the music industry as a whole. You’ve already elevated the conversation at multiple music companies I know of
A great solution for the $ per stream problem would be a setup like this: After Spotify/Apple Music/etc take their 30% cut of the subscription fee the rest gets distributed between the songs a subscriber actually listen to. So if I listen to a indie artist a lot they would get a lot of the subscription fee I’m paying. That way small artist could earn a great living with a relative small fan base. No other solution would be needed.
I was talking same thing some time ago. Spotify (and others) are actually ripping off millions of small artists and their algorithm works in favour of big names. There should be no algorithms but only music library browser by various categories so everyone has a chance of being discovered Btw, I recently quit making music… Costs a lot in time and money for virtually no return…
@@FlatTire Almost 80% of the customer base love those playlist(even though its bad for smaller artists). You can't take away what people love, because the act of promoting only few artists in itself doesn't cause any harm to anyone. So, a proper solution would look like a open sourced algorithm with no bias to anyone or something similar. For the record, I do not believe this would work in any meaningful way too.
I have to say I am so fucking tickled that one of my favourite electronic artists in some of the most formative years of my life puts out content like this.
As a fellow composer, musician and artist, conversations like these are so vital and frequent in the scenes man; I just hope we can really make it work fairly and justly for all of us, consumers and creatives alike!
Hey. UK here. Our economy is fuc*ed. If any of these subscription services start to jack their prices, which they inevitably will, I’m done. Most people in the UK are going to have to start making hard choices about what they can and can’t afford and I’m pretty sure Spotify will be getting the chop in a time where a lot of people in the UK are struggling to feed their children or heat their homes. These streaming services have started to reach their natural, capitalist conclusion. Walled Gardens. Jacked prices. Format Fog. Artists with no leverage or ownership of their work. At this point piracy seems more moral than paying these streaming companies.
to be honest, glad to hear your economy is f'ed... makes great musicians! and you where already my top ranked country for music. greetings and al jokes aside best of luck, your equally efffd dutch neighbor
Non-competitive, monopoly-market, cronyism capitalism isn't the 'natural conclusion' of whatever you think capitalism is. What exists now is corruption, and just as I wouldn't measure the merits of communism against Stalin's or Mao's corrupt and fascist implementations, I wouldn't do the same to this abomination of the free* market we have currently.
I think 5 years is also enough for the family to manage their new financial situation. (Move to a more affordable house, adjust the overall lifestyle...)
The internet might have been more tasteful if Tim Berners-Lee had said "I've created the world wide web, but no one is allowed to freely access it until 75 years after I've died".
Ben long time listener first time caller. Just want to say that I love your videos and the breadth of topics that you cover. Your communication skills are outstanding as is the thought and research you put into these videos. Thank you.
11:05 I'd actually love to see maybe an in-depth explanation or tutorial on something like this. That and if alternatives are better than Plex, because when I went to look it up, there was much discourse over it - I was hearing about stuff like Emby, Kodi, Jellyfin, and I don't even know where to start or what's better for simply organizing and playing my music conveniently on my devices. Would love to hear more about it. EDIT: Actually, that decentralized music streaming thing you mention at the end of the video sounds like one of the things I should learn about first. Either way, thanks for another video with further discussion!
same here in italy. originally it was a standalone tax that was tied to the tv you had in the house, but over the past 10-15 years with the decline in popularity of the tv medium more and more people stopped owning a tv altogether, so that tax is now part of the energy bill so that nobody can escape it. gotta love this country
in France govt just cancelled it, it finances public TV and radio networks which are very popular hère (1st morning show is public, one of the tv stations financed prominent french youtubers...)
Same in Austria. The 'tax' part always leads to a bit bloated and entitled orgs (less incentives to be efficient), and politicians always try to influence them, but having said that I still think it's a good approach and I was sad to hear that France ended it. You have to pick your poison somewhere, and the tradeoffs of these public broadcasters work for me at least.
side note -- your videos always help me either improve or gain insight into my job as a product manager at a health care startup -- no sarcasm, honestly. and i think you know what i mean. love the content thanks for the quality
As a new artist I'm avoiding streaming and using YT and a web platform called Reward Music which is artist centric. Benn I really appreciate all of your content.
Benn, I value your opinion. People can stink. Keeping it clean for TH-cam. I would love to hear you talk about your mix/mastering process. I too mix my own music, but pay for mastering. Keep up with the good work.
Not a complete equivalent to Funkwhale (As it's not free or open source) would be something like Roon. For those of you who want a more smooth transition from streaming to files Roon is great as you can connect it to streaming services temporarily as you try and build up your collection of music that you can listen to for the long term. They also have EQ and other features built in that somewhat justify the price tag. Not trying to sell for them just a big fan of their service.
It's actually incredible how engaging this video was for a simple reading your comments video. There's loads of great information here to think about and digest. Love this channel.
Had Spotify for a while but I just felt so surveilled by the algorithm and stopped using it. I recently uploaded all my music to dropbox (apx 2000 cds) and stream it to myself using the Evermusic app. Works great except that the play / shuffle options are a bit weird. Downside is not getting “new” music, but honestly there’s so much in my own collection I hear something new every time.
That's so awesome. CDs are great, I have a CD player built into my PC and a discman w/ a case for on the go. The fact you can then export it into an mp3 or flac is just so much bang for buck. I'm so glad it's not as price gouged as vinyls ❤️
I find it quite mad that there are lots of (mostly older) people that never listen to new music (Spotify's own research suggests interest in new music tapers off rapidly for most people in their thirties) and yet they keep paying their monthly subs for the convenience of having access to music they already paid for. It would be crazy to keep paying for the vinyl and books on my shelves, so it seems weird to keep paying Spotify for music I can download.
I randomly found your channel today through a comment that I randomly stumbled upon on LinkedIn. Very glad that I did. Your content is insightful and useful. Keep it coming and thank you!
What’s the reality of Spotify putting in a “tip” system. Seems simple to implement. Tip icon lives next to the Heart icon. Set a flat tip amount. $0.10 or $0.25? Your subscription includes $1.00 into your tip account every month. Also unlike the Heart icon it resets every 30 days so you may re-tip a given song again and again. I know this is only a couple million a month spread out but it is moving towards a balance point between the service and the artist. Again, this seems soooooo easy to implement.
I recently built a home server, for NAS and some other stuff, you really inspired me to start putting my music collection on there and build my personal streaming platform
I love your sense of Justice and your ideal of "growing the pie" instead of making it smaller. That's a philosophy I personally stand by. Question: what's your take on being a pessimist? How does this effect your mental health and overall quality of life? I ask because I personally struggle with this at times and then feel the obligation to just ignore all that's at stake and pretend things are gonna be ok 🙄 - like the glass is half full kinda guy..
Nice job accepting and learning from critical feedback. This seems like a healthy approach. Especially how you found a way to learn from insulting shitposts.
For me, ur eye brow was a unique identification of ur existence in this universes, hence it was a manifestation of a gifted talent on the usage of ur “right brain” creativity hemisphere, that get reflected on left part of the body, 🤩
Saw the first video based on this video....enjoyed it. Personal opinion: around 97-2000 we had the perfect (not literal) setup. You could buy a cd and play it on your portable cd player. You could buy a cassette and play it on your walkman. As someone who purchased at least 3-5 of both, it's 100% worth it in the long term. Yes, you don't have the convivence of accessing any music from around the world within seconds, but you can make a philosophical (and maybe scientific) argument that maybe we weren't ever meant to. We already have proof that if you look at a food menu with a huge amount of options, humans have a tougher term with that. We aren't designed for that level of options or multi-tasking. Personally, I could care less if any of these streaming services burn and collapse (I'm an LG V series user who always uses local music, for context) considering they don't care about listeners, it's just coincidence that you as a consumer can benefit from their product. Sometimes technology doesn't have to grow further or "innovate". It's the same reason why in 2023 someone who isn't even 25 (I myself am in my mid 30s) will find joy in purchasing a vinyl record when's that's been obsolete for decades now (I love all physical media except 8-track, for context). As a failed musician, the HONEST perspective to being a successful (relative) musician you need to get out the house to perform, you need to get out the house and personally sell your music. It's a double edge sword of expense that also forces you not to create 8 albums within 2 months (like a ton of artists do now a days) to saturate things. I'm super sure people will disagree with me but we've done things one way and we're in a mess now with people too obsessed with the future to admit defeat.
I’ve been thinking about a “rent to own/pay per stream” model where you’d get a certain amount of credits with your monthly sub which would be spent each time you listen to a song up until a certain amount of plays where you’ve effectively “bought” the song. I know I would love that personally but i’m the kind of person to listen to a few songs hundreds of times. But this could provide a much higher revenue per stream to artists while allowing users to slowly build a library that they own
As a consumer rather than an artist, what would be the option to have my extensive music library available wherever I go, without using a streaming service like spotify?
TH-cam Music....has a better selection of music than Spotify (way way WAAAY bigger selection) and if you have TH-cam Premium, TH-cam Music is included in that.
Whew, that stock shorting hasn't panned out well in the last 6 months. (FWIW, I had Spotify stock that I sold a few months ago because I didn't expect them to do very well either. Oh well.)
thank you for talking about the "consumer" argument because so many people in the comments were not seeing those points you raised and it frustrated me lol
The "nationalized" and "non-profit media service" already exists in a way: it's the Library of Congress & our national network of local libraries. You can already borrow not just books, but audio books, movies, music, all often through an app from your couch. If all "copies" of something I want are checked out, I might buy it for faster or unlimited access, or find something else interesting. Popular media often has many many more "copies" available, each of which goes to pay the artists/published. As it stands today, the LoC already makes a fair attempt to catalogue everything of national note, and better local branches do so for local media (music and zines and self published authors and art shows, etc). There is a lot of work to be done to grow & cross-catalogue and serve up all that information to the end-users in order to compete with Spotify et al. ..but being a century old institution with hundreds of physical locations, they might already have a head start!... If only Congress could be convinced it's a wise investment. Like you said, the BBC shows it's not actually that crazy of an idea. Always the most integrous person on music maker tube. Thanks for doing this so I only have to share a link!
I've long wanted a legal framework for licensing for software and media where, upon purchase, you're granted a license that can be moved without cost between licensing services-such that the shutdown of a service (e.g. Walmart and Microsoft's music service, or a software store like Steam or Origin) guarantees the export of a license, which could be transferred or used to prove purchase. Currently, the stores are each individually responsible for payment, distribution, and license tracking, and they provide no integration between them. I'm pushing for a legally-enforced integration of the license tracking so that users wouldn't be beholden to the various walled gardens for IP access, and content producers wouldn't be beholden to the same walled gardens for everything at the 30-50% costs that are currently charged. Ideally, licensing would be tracked at regional, centralized locations run by non-profits and using modern security with things like 2FA. Services could link to the centralized service with OAuth, check with the service for licensing, and, if they're licensed to distribute, provide it to the consumers. If they're not licensed, a 3rd-party hand-off mechanism could be provided to enable content providers to distribute solely from their own servers. Most would probably opt to either distribute through the app stores or through a hosted service. With this, walled-garden app stores are essentially in charge of purchasing (optional) and distribution, which means they need to focus on improving their experience. It would also mean that 3rd party sales, transfers and lending of content would be more permissable - within reason. Honestly, an entire non-profit industry of collective IP could spring up around libraries. This does mean that, since the app is no longer getting 30% of the pie at purchase, they're no longer incentivized to provide free downloads forever for their users' multi-terabyte content, but actual transfer costs would be in the realm of a few dollars per-year, and download counts could carry over with the licensing to new services. You'd have to mandate that a certain percentage of the purchase be earmarked for transfer costs, and that would incentivize stores to keep customers consuming content from their services, because the transfer expenses would remain with the license. It would also force online gaming account banning to transition from the store's user account to the license, which would carry over. In the end, it's still sort of centralized, but I think it's the kind of compromise that everyone would begrudgingly accept.
I have a huge streak of natural grey hairs in my hair and i'm a dude with long dark brown hair in my early 20s but we look fucking cool bro, ignore the bad comments Also I love your view on art and especially on the question about ethics on streaming dead musicians music. True artist right here
Nobody who creates music full time should have to struggle for survival, but many of us do because these profit motivated companies and governments control what happens to our music. We all see the need for change, but nobody knows what to do or how it occurs. Instead, the music and the people who make it continue to struggle, on a regular basis. It seems like all we ever do is chase untainted mediums until they are corrupted, then move on to another. Good video, great discussion.
Do you think without government or corporations that all of us who want to be musicians could make a living doing it? I don't get your comment. Money doesn't grow on trees.
The same thing has happened with live music too, with investors and corporate ownership group like Live Nation buying up all the venues. Now it's a struggle to make money even from live performance, because someone somewhere has to make billions of dollars by sitting around and doing nothing, collecting rents. That's what capitalism is, gaining control of markets and exploiting them to the max so owners and investors can get rich doing nothing.
Holy crap, Navidrome sounds pretty awesome! I commented in the last video about using Madsonic and other Subsonic derivatives. Ive been wanting to switch to something more current and, while I've heard of Navidrome, i never got a chance to try it out. Its apparently compatible with subsonic mobile apps, so fuck yeah. Here goes nothin! I appreciate the conversations here! Stay rad🤙
One thing to consider in the UK is we get a great podcast service from the BBC. With inflation off the scale here and energy price very high we can cancel most services and still have great TV and podcasts.
I'm not sure if you had to think about, whether or not to keep the comments up while you talk about their very topic, but I think it's a great design choice, it kept my ADHD brain concentrated on what you were talking about. The mind is full of mysteries.
I think this video, the Spotify one and the Toxic Vinyl record ones are fantastic essential watching for this generation of musicians. Thanks Brows.. I mean Benn, sorry!
I HEAVILY use Spotify's Discover Weekly and Release radar features. Finding new music in Genres I like is tough and most other services have terrible options for this (or at least they used to). I've been looking at Bandcamp and that's never really going to be a good option because finding new music there, unless I'm missing something (quite likely), is proving extremely tough because I have to listen to EVERY sample clip. And it doesn't look like many of the artists I already like are on there. Also, buying merch is a serious hassle for me because artists I like rarely tour to my city so I can only buy online. But to buy a single $50 t-Shirt can cost over $20 for shipping. And 9 times out of 10 the sizing is wrong so buying other types of merch is the better option yet is also usually a more expensive option. So other than these, what other options are there for supporting them?
I also heavily used Discover Weekly, Release Radar and song radios to find new music. I have switched to a Tidal premium account with direct artist payouts which is not perfect obviously but I feel better about it than Spotify. So far it seems comparable as far as ability to discover new music and higher quality audio files. Not a perfect solution but better than doing nothing?
I have long had the same feelings about the discover weekly feature. A few things helped me rely on it less up until the point where I now never listen to it anymore. First and foremost, I replaced a portion of the time I spend listening to Spotify with listening to online radio stations that fit my tastes. NTS, which is mentioned in the video, is one of the more famous ones I guess. They have an immense archive of most of their past broadcasts which are tagged by genre which makes it great for music discovery. Two other, slightly more involved things that I did: Second, I started subscribing to the mailing lists or bandcamp pages of the record labels of some of my favorite artists to be notified of new releases. This works especially well with smaller labels with a more curated catalogue; chances are at least a portion of their new releases will be to your tastes. Third, I subscribed to the news letters of some music journalists whose tastes I share. This takes some trail and error but has lead to some great discoveries in my case.
And regarding your merch question: an easy way to support an artist you love is to purchase a download of their record. Even if you continue to listen to their work on Spotify afterwards and never really use the download, they have at least gotten paid fairly for their work once without your house being filled with objects you don’t really want/need.
4:47 WHAAAA?!? I didn't know such a thing exists. They need to make the same thing for TH-cam; I see too many videos being silenced left and right (especially the unpopular ones with no trace of it left) and it leaves me in a limbo whether or not I'll ever see/hear that masterpiece again. Everyone has their own creative memorable process, and to see it go to waste like that based on a poor decision controlled by a corporate mindset makes it unfair for everyone involved.
I'd love a streaming service where I pay a sensible amount, 30% of which goes to the service and 70% is distributed, by play count, to the artists I've listened to. For such to exist would require a lot of capital to start, though, since to be sustainable you'd need a critical mass of paying customers, and for that you need content, and to get content you need listeners... getting major labels interested would require, basically, to bribe them into the system to begin with.
Unfortunately that BBC tv tax is just about to fail. Although you could argue that's down to the BBC's service itself vs the fee rather than the concept of a fee/tax alone.
12:31 I would be surprised if this person is the only one in the comment section who learned a few buzzwords without understanding the underlying concepts. That is neither good nor bad. It isn’t that shocking either. Not everyone can know everything about everything. But that is what this comment demonstrates
I only play devil's advocate with people who i'm really comfortable with, and even then i seem to piss them off about half of the time. Kudos for having the balls to do this on a public platform! In all seriousness, i've been crypto-curious since 2012, and i lost most faith in it's original anarchistic goals by the 2017 bubble when it became just another asset for daytraders to get stressed over. Nevertheless i was somewhat enthusiastic about the idea of nft's and it's possible use for authorship and copyright. But the thing i never saw addressed in the whole hype is the fact that you need enforcement. From the get-go every nft holder has this idea that "i own the nft minted for , so i own the rights", but as far as i know not a single legislative institute has accepted nft's as a proof of copyright. I often hear the comparison that buying an nft is like buying the receipt to something, i would argue it's more akin to a receipt of a sale scribbled on a napkin, hoping napkins will one day be the receipt standards legally. And given the amount of useless tokens out there you can mint nft's on, i would argue the napkin is written on in pencil.
I think a publicly funded archive with streaming features would be good. It does make the freedom of speech on the internet deal much more complex because the 1st amendment would be involved for real.
oooo i didnt know you were involved in shorting stocks XD I am also short SPOT with some lower strike short puts combined, basically like a short call position
I very much believe in the idea that future generations will look back on the way "we" do things now and be utterly confused in so many ways. To me, the world is still very much in its adolescence. The problems that the people of the world face will seem like such backwards ideas that are only there to serve a few and in the process grind down the rest. Thats why I appreciate your video about spotify because it serves as an example as to how these models are truly not in the service of artists, and will inevitably collapse. We need only to start being aware that they will give way to a future much better fit for all.
The only time I ever made a CD on my own (in 2010), I did all the artwork including a 16 page colour booklet - and a small company produced 100 of them for me, for £3 each - that includes a printed disc, and bear in mind this was a very small batch indeed. Are they really so much more expensive to produce these days? I find it sad. It's such a perfect medium... as a listener, I want music to be something I can buy and then listen to in perpetuity, with no danger of being stopped from doing so. Streaming is abhorrent to me (and I know I'm in a minority). If the death of CDs means Bandcamp downloads etc., then I guess that's fine - but I happen to love CDs and I'll really miss them. Oh... and don't get me started on inter-track dropouts. Grrrrrr!
you seem really informed about so much important smart stuff. things that there seem to be loads of news about but never just the reality. do you keep up with any specific news service you feel provides consistent good content of this kind. if not, how do you go about your research?
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"Solve a problem and you won't have to evangelize blockchain" This, sir, would be the most concise way to sum up my feelings about crypto in general. Thankyou for this!
Right, crypto is for contrarians.
Sounds great but most people don't realize there is a problem with the financial sector, that is at the core of the illusion.
Your eyebrow is frickin’ awesome! Those haters are just jealous.
pfft lol
honestly i thought it was a shaved in fashion choice lol.
To most judgmental parasites, who haven’t seen one of your many videos (Ill save you the trouble) by explain to there close minded prehistoric brains.. Ben was once a Golden gloves boxer, and an MMA fighter.. The eyebrow is not fashion, it came from taking a hit, that almost ripped his eye out.. All part of the sport 🫶🏻 So, have fun making fun of him in person.. A true wolf in sheep’s clothing 😉🇮🇪
He is a good looking guy despite the eye brow 😉👌
Makes no sense to me how if something is even slightly unique about someone's appearance, some people just can't deal with it and have to ask the person about it or why it's there, no matter how benign it is.
By far the most positive outlook on someone questioning your looks. Positive Benn is best Benn.
He is handsome enough to laugh off mean comments from insecure basement-dwellers.
@@justinwatson1510 why judge people living in a basement? Isn't that kind of like making fun of someone's eyebrow? Just a thought
super appreciate learning about Exportify. Losing my playlists has been one of my biggest obstacles to leaving the platform. Also, I fully support copyright ending at death, but unfortunately most artists don't own their work and major labels rarely "die".
A somehow better alternative IMHO would be for the copyright to end after a far more logical time limit than it is today. 10, maybe 20 years.
I don't see why a copyrighted work should provide it's creator income "for life".
What's it been like leaving Spotify? I use it daily but also think about dropping it fairly often so curious to hear how you went about it.
@@lindenbasket I just put the songs on a cloud service (some are free if you don't have many songs/use up lots of data space, or you can use multiple email accounts for example for completely free cloud services) and stream from there or I just download the songs to a file and listen from that.
@@CM_CM_ nice, which cloud service?
@@djgeorgetsagkadopoulosNo way, that's too short. We musicians want to have kids man! We want to leave assets. Yes, investments, property, etc but ownership of our recorded creative works is also an asset and one very close to our heart.
🙌Thanks for your thoughtful response here. I appreciate what you do! Also the caveats you have to pile on re: shorting, etc. 100% respect your skin in the game here. And admittedly part of my response was based on the me being in the minority of people who Spotify boosts algorithmically, where they're effectively paying me to put my music in front of new listeners. Especially appreciate your take on physical media as not as virtuous as people make out. I've pointed many people to your vinyl video. As an ex-Earth scientist, it hurts to have so many people point at vinyl and shipping things around (and blockchain! and don't @ me proof-of-stake fans). Also appreciate the callout of Audius's scammy, pump-and-dump shaped strategy.
Mentioned this elsewhere on the other video -- open source software saw one of the most enormous wealth transfers, from developers to tech giants, in that Amazon, Google, and others built their cloud empires on free and open source software without paying the people who made it (except occasional voluntary contributions back). Those of us who make things that fall under the IP bucket have to be very careful, it's one of the few paths to owning something of value without having to buy it. But it's also the most imaginary form of property, requiring social contracts and behavioral norms for people to get paid. And there are vultures ready to descend if we're not vigilant about protecting it.
The most important thing to do right now is exactly what you're doing: starting the conversation then keeping it going. So thank you! We all need to keep this discussion going until we can figure out some place that's better than where we are now and realistic steps we can take to get there.
To the guy that commented the capitalism Space bit, I commend you. It’s a game reference, and a quite good one at that!
Tim Curry is a legend.
SPACE!!
Haha, I got the reference as well and was laughing at how straight-faced Benn took it. :D
Even though I already knew the quite sad answer that space is already corrupted, glad some people found a laugh.
best part of the whole video. 😂👍🏻
Thank you for taking the time to dig into this and taking the time to address the peanut gallery. It matters and it's good content and it's gratefully received.
Not in agreement with your assessment of Spotify and streaming, but your breakdown on how much it would cost to return to physical formats was brilliant. Great work there. Thank you.
Every time i listen to you, I can hear and feel the commonsense oozing from every fiber of your being. Thank you. And I hope without sounding patronizing, keep up the very good work!
Ben for president?
I came out of the last video in bit of a soul crushing funk. This, like so many other real world problems, just feels so big and complex that I struggle to wrap my head around a solution.
I love that you are both a champion for these solutions and a voice of calm reason in a sea of typical binary rage. As someone who has obviously done a lot of work getting informed about the problem and it’s solutions (or potentials) how can I learn more about being part of that solution (in addition to the info from your patreon)?
True, tech in general and the web in particular seems to be moving into ever more exclusive set of companies that get to set the rules. This is in essence a tech problem in addition to IP-law/capitalism problem. With spotify it's very similar to audible, where there's no way to compete with it and anyone who tried would run into the same issues Benn highlighted in his video.
I'm not a Spotify hater, I love the convenience and feel absolutely zero guilt from using it. That being said, would I want there to be competition and see creators paid well? Yes, yes I would (also fuck the labels). I've never made enough money to spend on all the music I listen to though, and if there was no Spotify, I would pirate my music like I used to.
What I think will happen is that slowly but surely the prices for streaming go up, and piracy goes up as well. I don't see these companies completely failing, just bleeding the industry dry without addressing the underlying problems. I hope someone smarter than me comes up with a way to do all of this open source with a model that pays artists and cuts the middle men while keeping all the functionality and piracy low with low pricing.
There isn't much we can do about anything outside of our local bubble. Change what you can, break what you have to, try to do things that will help you sleep and enjoy your short little amazing blip in time.
These videos are fantastic. Eloquent and well thought out. Thank you and I hope many more people get to see this!
"solve a problem and your project will succeed - it's as simple as that" - PERFECTION BEN!
You're the man Benn. Your Spotify fail video changed my whole thinking. Especially as I get ready to put out another release.
thank you so much for this and thank you so much for your sets in Texas recently. you blew us all away 😍
13:29 love that you say "we" when talking about what future generations wont understand about our intellectual property scheme. Wholesome af. Great video. Always appreciate your educational content, which is actually how i discovered your youtube. Though recently I dove into your discography and its so fucking good I cant begin to describe how much it had elevated my mood the last couple of weeks so thank you so much!
That actually confused the crap out of me. Lol… I’ll go get my cane and yell at a cloud now
You should absolutely do financial pundit work for different platforms about this. It’s really interesting and will help the music industry as a whole. You’ve already elevated the conversation at multiple music companies I know of
Always enjoy hearing your takes (and responses to responses on those takes), keep up the great work Benn!
A great solution for the $ per stream problem would be a setup like this: After Spotify/Apple Music/etc take their 30% cut of the subscription fee the rest gets distributed between the songs a subscriber actually listen to. So if I listen to a indie artist a lot they would get a lot of the subscription fee I’m paying. That way small artist could earn a great living with a relative small fan base.
No other solution would be needed.
I was talking same thing some time ago.
Spotify (and others) are actually ripping off millions of small artists and their algorithm works in favour of big names.
There should be no algorithms but only music library browser by various categories so everyone has a chance of being discovered
Btw, I recently quit making music… Costs a lot in time and money for virtually no return…
@@FlatTire Almost 80% of the customer base love those playlist(even though its bad for smaller artists). You can't take away what people love, because the act of promoting only few artists in itself doesn't cause any harm to anyone. So, a proper solution would look like a open sourced algorithm with no bias to anyone or something similar. For the record, I do not believe this would work in any meaningful way too.
I have to say I am so fucking tickled that one of my favourite electronic artists in some of the most formative years of my life puts out content like this.
Lol, he wasn't a formative artist for me but yeah that must be crazy. Mine aren't exactly what I would call "wise and measured thinkers" lol
As a fellow composer, musician and artist, conversations like these are so vital and frequent in the scenes man; I just hope we can really make it work fairly and justly for all of us, consumers and creatives alike!
Hey. UK here. Our economy is fuc*ed. If any of these subscription services start to jack their prices, which they inevitably will, I’m done. Most people in the UK are going to have to start making hard choices about what they can and can’t afford and I’m pretty sure Spotify will be getting the chop in a time where a lot of people in the UK are struggling to feed their children or heat their homes.
These streaming services have started to reach their natural, capitalist conclusion. Walled Gardens. Jacked prices. Format Fog. Artists with no leverage or ownership of their work. At this point piracy seems more moral than paying these streaming companies.
I've already given Spotify the chop.
to be honest, glad to hear your economy is f'ed... makes great musicians!
and you where already my top ranked country for music.
greetings and al jokes aside best of luck,
your equally efffd dutch neighbor
@@michel5148 wut...
Non-competitive, monopoly-market, cronyism capitalism isn't the 'natural conclusion' of whatever you think capitalism is. What exists now is corruption, and just as I wouldn't measure the merits of communism against Stalin's or Mao's corrupt and fascist implementations, I wouldn't do the same to this abomination of the free* market we have currently.
I'm in love with the way you interpret and are amused by negative comments. Sincerely, it's inspiring to me.
I think copyright should last like 5 years after death, mainly because I'm scared of untasteful uses of the music just after an artist death.
Eh .... wikipedia: List of countries' copyright lengths
You want to shorten it ??????
I think 5 years is also enough for the family to manage their new financial situation. (Move to a more affordable house, adjust the overall lifestyle...)
The internet might have been more tasteful if Tim Berners-Lee had said "I've created the world wide web, but no one is allowed to freely access it until 75 years after I've died".
Wow that's an awesome idea at 9:26 that I would really want to see explored more.
The “IP Tax” sounds like a public library to me, just based on data in the Internet. I think that’s a great idea
Just wanted to say that I'm interested in a deep dive into this concept from Ben.
Yeah maybe have it as an opt in or out program so anyone wanting old music can stream from the government in original quality
Ben long time listener first time caller. Just want to say that I love your videos and the breadth of topics that you cover. Your communication skills are outstanding as is the thought and research you put into these videos. Thank you.
11:05 I'd actually love to see maybe an in-depth explanation or tutorial on something like this. That and if alternatives are better than Plex, because when I went to look it up, there was much discourse over it - I was hearing about stuff like Emby, Kodi, Jellyfin, and I don't even know where to start or what's better for simply organizing and playing my music conveniently on my devices. Would love to hear more about it.
EDIT: Actually, that decentralized music streaming thing you mention at the end of the video sounds like one of the things I should learn about first. Either way, thanks for another video with further discussion!
Sweden also have this TV tax. Roughly 100 USD per citizen per year is deducted towards it.
same here in italy. originally it was a standalone tax that was tied to the tv you had in the house, but over the past 10-15 years with the decline in popularity of the tv medium more and more people stopped owning a tv altogether, so that tax is now part of the energy bill so that nobody can escape it. gotta love this country
@@crifox16 They did the exact same thing here haha
in France govt just cancelled it, it finances public TV and radio networks which are very popular hère (1st morning show is public, one of the tv stations financed prominent french youtubers...)
Same in Austria. The 'tax' part always leads to a bit bloated and entitled orgs (less incentives to be efficient), and politicians always try to influence them, but having said that I still think it's a good approach and I was sad to hear that France ended it. You have to pick your poison somewhere, and the tradeoffs of these public broadcasters work for me at least.
side note -- your videos always help me either improve or gain insight into my job as a product manager at a health care startup -- no sarcasm, honestly. and i think you know what i mean. love the content thanks for the quality
Great video as always, Benn. Always enjoy hearing your insights
Old fan from Chicago. Appreciate the videos. ✌️
As a new artist I'm avoiding streaming and using YT and a web platform called Reward Music which is artist centric. Benn I really appreciate all of your content.
Benn, I value your opinion. People can stink. Keeping it clean for TH-cam. I would love to hear you talk about your mix/mastering process. I too mix my own music, but pay for mastering. Keep up with the good work.
Not a complete equivalent to Funkwhale (As it's not free or open source) would be something like Roon. For those of you who want a more smooth transition from streaming to files Roon is great as you can connect it to streaming services temporarily as you try and build up your collection of music that you can listen to for the long term. They also have EQ and other features built in that somewhat justify the price tag.
Not trying to sell for them just a big fan of their service.
It's actually incredible how engaging this video was for a simple reading your comments video. There's loads of great information here to think about and digest. Love this channel.
new here, watching all your stuff now, you’re great and should have at least a million subscribers
Preach Brother Jordan!
Had Spotify for a while but I just felt so surveilled by the algorithm and stopped using it. I recently uploaded all my music to dropbox (apx 2000 cds) and stream it to myself using the Evermusic app. Works great except that the play / shuffle options are a bit weird. Downside is not getting “new” music, but honestly there’s so much in my own collection I hear something new every time.
That's so awesome. CDs are great, I have a CD player built into my PC and a discman w/ a case for on the go. The fact you can then export it into an mp3 or flac is just so much bang for buck. I'm so glad it's not as price gouged as vinyls ❤️
I find it quite mad that there are lots of (mostly older) people that never listen to new music (Spotify's own research suggests interest in new music tapers off rapidly for most people in their thirties) and yet they keep paying their monthly subs for the convenience of having access to music they already paid for. It would be crazy to keep paying for the vinyl and books on my shelves, so it seems weird to keep paying Spotify for music I can download.
I’m just commenting so the algo will maybe serve this to more people.
I randomly found your channel today through a comment that I randomly stumbled upon on LinkedIn. Very glad that I did. Your content is insightful and useful. Keep it coming and thank you!
What’s the reality of Spotify putting in a “tip” system. Seems simple to implement.
Tip icon lives next to the Heart icon. Set a flat tip amount. $0.10 or $0.25?
Your subscription includes $1.00 into your tip account every month.
Also unlike the Heart icon it resets every 30 days so you may re-tip a given song again and again.
I know this is only a couple million a month spread out but it is moving towards a balance point between the service and the artist.
Again, this seems soooooo easy to implement.
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Always forward, never ever backward!!
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found you on the original spotify vid. great stuff
I recently built a home server, for NAS and some other stuff, you really inspired me to start putting my music collection on there and build my personal streaming platform
I love your sense of Justice and your ideal of "growing the pie" instead of making it smaller. That's a philosophy I personally stand by. Question: what's your take on being a pessimist? How does this effect your mental health and overall quality of life? I ask because I personally struggle with this at times and then feel the obligation to just ignore all that's at stake and pretend things are gonna be ok 🙄 - like the glass is half full kinda guy..
Nice job accepting and learning from critical feedback. This seems like a healthy approach. Especially how you found a way to learn from insulting shitposts.
love you Benn
For me, ur eye brow was a unique identification of ur existence in this universes, hence it was a manifestation of a gifted talent on the usage of ur “right brain” creativity hemisphere, that get reflected on left part of the body, 🤩
Ben you're a wit and funny human being, thank You👍❤️🙏🏻
Saw the first video based on this video....enjoyed it. Personal opinion: around 97-2000 we had the perfect (not literal) setup. You could buy a cd and play it on your portable cd player. You could buy a cassette and play it on your walkman. As someone who purchased at least 3-5 of both, it's 100% worth it in the long term. Yes, you don't have the convivence of accessing any music from around the world within seconds, but you can make a philosophical (and maybe scientific) argument that maybe we weren't ever meant to. We already have proof that if you look at a food menu with a huge amount of options, humans have a tougher term with that. We aren't designed for that level of options or multi-tasking. Personally, I could care less if any of these streaming services burn and collapse (I'm an LG V series user who always uses local music, for context) considering they don't care about listeners, it's just coincidence that you as a consumer can benefit from their product. Sometimes technology doesn't have to grow further or "innovate". It's the same reason why in 2023 someone who isn't even 25 (I myself am in my mid 30s) will find joy in purchasing a vinyl record when's that's been obsolete for decades now (I love all physical media except 8-track, for context). As a failed musician, the HONEST perspective to being a successful (relative) musician you need to get out the house to perform, you need to get out the house and personally sell your music. It's a double edge sword of expense that also forces you not to create 8 albums within 2 months (like a ton of artists do now a days) to saturate things. I'm super sure people will disagree with me but we've done things one way and we're in a mess now with people too obsessed with the future to admit defeat.
one of the smartest, most thoughful, well evidenced and articulate voices on the internet.
I come here for the great synth socio-techno-enviro deep dives, and I stay for the Tim Curry Red Alert 3 references
I’ve been thinking about a “rent to own/pay per stream” model where you’d get a certain amount of credits with your monthly sub which would be spent each time you listen to a song up until a certain amount of plays where you’ve effectively “bought” the song. I know I would love that personally but i’m the kind of person to listen to a few songs hundreds of times. But this could provide a much higher revenue per stream to artists while allowing users to slowly build a library that they own
I've watched a lot of your videos and this is the first time I noticed the eyebrow lol
I actually _really_ like your eyebrow thing. It's stylish
As a consumer rather than an artist, what would be the option to have my extensive music library available wherever I go, without using a streaming service like spotify?
TH-cam Music....has a better selection of music than Spotify (way way WAAAY bigger selection) and if you have TH-cam Premium, TH-cam Music is included in that.
Rip your CDs to AAC. :-D
wow good job, thanks so much!
Loved the guy that quoted tim curry in C&C.
Whew, that stock shorting hasn't panned out well in the last 6 months. (FWIW, I had Spotify stock that I sold a few months ago because I didn't expect them to do very well either. Oh well.)
thank you for talking about the "consumer" argument because so many people in the comments were not seeing those points you raised and it frustrated me lol
But Benn. Keep it up. Really appreciating your voice.
I like ur eyebrow btw, it is signature and looks good
Thank you sir👍
FYI to Tobias and co. Rolex is a non-profit. That status of company means little in practice.
I am 100% with you on when copyright should expire!
Thanks for the response, Ben. Really enjoying your channel. Smart stuff.
The "nationalized" and "non-profit media service" already exists in a way: it's the Library of Congress & our national network of local libraries. You can already borrow not just books, but audio books, movies, music, all often through an app from your couch. If all "copies" of something I want are checked out, I might buy it for faster or unlimited access, or find something else interesting. Popular media often has many many more "copies" available, each of which goes to pay the artists/published. As it stands today, the LoC already makes a fair attempt to catalogue everything of national note, and better local branches do so for local media (music and zines and self published authors and art shows, etc). There is a lot of work to be done to grow & cross-catalogue and serve up all that information to the end-users in order to compete with Spotify et al. ..but being a century old institution with hundreds of physical locations, they might already have a head start!... If only Congress could be convinced it's a wise investment. Like you said, the BBC shows it's not actually that crazy of an idea.
Always the most integrous person on music maker tube. Thanks for doing this so I only have to share a link!
You’re a great communicator!
I've long wanted a legal framework for licensing for software and media where, upon purchase, you're granted a license that can be moved without cost between licensing services-such that the shutdown of a service (e.g. Walmart and Microsoft's music service, or a software store like Steam or Origin) guarantees the export of a license, which could be transferred or used to prove purchase.
Currently, the stores are each individually responsible for payment, distribution, and license tracking, and they provide no integration between them. I'm pushing for a legally-enforced integration of the license tracking so that users wouldn't be beholden to the various walled gardens for IP access, and content producers wouldn't be beholden to the same walled gardens for everything at the 30-50% costs that are currently charged. Ideally, licensing would be tracked at regional, centralized locations run by non-profits and using modern security with things like 2FA. Services could link to the centralized service with OAuth, check with the service for licensing, and, if they're licensed to distribute, provide it to the consumers. If they're not licensed, a 3rd-party hand-off mechanism could be provided to enable content providers to distribute solely from their own servers. Most would probably opt to either distribute through the app stores or through a hosted service.
With this, walled-garden app stores are essentially in charge of purchasing (optional) and distribution, which means they need to focus on improving their experience. It would also mean that 3rd party sales, transfers and lending of content would be more permissable - within reason. Honestly, an entire non-profit industry of collective IP could spring up around libraries.
This does mean that, since the app is no longer getting 30% of the pie at purchase, they're no longer incentivized to provide free downloads forever for their users' multi-terabyte content, but actual transfer costs would be in the realm of a few dollars per-year, and download counts could carry over with the licensing to new services. You'd have to mandate that a certain percentage of the purchase be earmarked for transfer costs, and that would incentivize stores to keep customers consuming content from their services, because the transfer expenses would remain with the license. It would also force online gaming account banning to transition from the store's user account to the license, which would carry over.
In the end, it's still sort of centralized, but I think it's the kind of compromise that everyone would begrudgingly accept.
I think your eyebrows look cool tbh, one of the reasons I don't skip tabs when watching these videos.
I have a huge streak of natural grey hairs in my hair and i'm a dude with long dark brown hair in my early 20s but we look fucking cool bro, ignore the bad comments
Also I love your view on art and especially on the question about ethics on streaming dead musicians music. True artist right here
Nobody who creates music full time should have to struggle for survival, but many of us do because these profit motivated companies and governments control what happens to our music. We all see the need for change, but nobody knows what to do or how it occurs. Instead, the music and the people who make it continue to struggle, on a regular basis. It seems like all we ever do is chase untainted mediums until they are corrupted, then move on to another. Good video, great discussion.
Do you think without government or corporations that all of us who want to be musicians could make a living doing it? I don't get your comment. Money doesn't grow on trees.
@@lightfeather9953 No. I think that governments and corporations, making more profit from the music than the actual artist, is wrong.
@@lightfeather9953 That's it, we need to move on to a post scarcity and monetary based society....it can happen, but not for a long while.
The same thing has happened with live music too, with investors and corporate ownership group like Live Nation buying up all the venues. Now it's a struggle to make money even from live performance, because someone somewhere has to make billions of dollars by sitting around and doing nothing, collecting rents. That's what capitalism is, gaining control of markets and exploiting them to the max so owners and investors can get rich doing nothing.
Holy crap, Navidrome sounds pretty awesome! I commented in the last video about using Madsonic and other Subsonic derivatives. Ive been wanting to switch to something more current and, while I've heard of Navidrome, i never got a chance to try it out. Its apparently compatible with subsonic mobile apps, so fuck yeah. Here goes nothin!
I appreciate the conversations here! Stay rad🤙
I agree with so much here, bit absolutely not about ownership expiring upon the death of an artist.
But Benn! I really enjoy your content. Keep up the good work!
This was awesome.
One thing to consider in the UK is we get a great podcast service from the BBC. With inflation off the scale here and energy price very high we can cancel most services and still have great TV and podcasts.
Benn, I just wanted you to know - Floating Vacuum is the best ambient track ever made.
I'm not sure if you had to think about, whether or not to keep the comments up while you talk about their very topic, but I think it's a great design choice, it kept my ADHD brain concentrated on what you were talking about.
The mind is full of mysteries.
I think this video, the Spotify one and the Toxic Vinyl record ones are fantastic essential watching for this generation of musicians.
Thanks Brows.. I mean Benn, sorry!
Criminalizing sharing will indeed be seen as a weird anomaly for a social animal to do...
I HEAVILY use Spotify's Discover Weekly and Release radar features. Finding new music in Genres I like is tough and most other services have terrible options for this (or at least they used to). I've been looking at Bandcamp and that's never really going to be a good option because finding new music there, unless I'm missing something (quite likely), is proving extremely tough because I have to listen to EVERY sample clip. And it doesn't look like many of the artists I already like are on there. Also, buying merch is a serious hassle for me because artists I like rarely tour to my city so I can only buy online. But to buy a single $50 t-Shirt can cost over $20 for shipping. And 9 times out of 10 the sizing is wrong so buying other types of merch is the better option yet is also usually a more expensive option. So other than these, what other options are there for supporting them?
I also heavily used Discover Weekly, Release Radar and song radios to find new music. I have switched to a Tidal premium account with direct artist payouts which is not perfect obviously but I feel better about it than Spotify. So far it seems comparable as far as ability to discover new music and higher quality audio files. Not a perfect solution but better than doing nothing?
I have long had the same feelings about the discover weekly feature. A few things helped me rely on it less up until the point where I now never listen to it anymore. First and foremost, I replaced a portion of the time I spend listening to Spotify with listening to online radio stations that fit my tastes. NTS, which is mentioned in the video, is one of the more famous ones I guess. They have an immense archive of most of their past broadcasts which are tagged by genre which makes it great for music discovery.
Two other, slightly more involved things that I did:
Second, I started subscribing to the mailing lists or bandcamp pages of the record labels of some of my favorite artists to be notified of new releases. This works especially well with smaller labels with a more curated catalogue; chances are at least a portion of their new releases will be to your tastes. Third, I subscribed to the news letters of some music journalists whose tastes I share. This takes some trail and error but has lead to some great discoveries in my case.
And regarding your merch question: an easy way to support an artist you love is to purchase a download of their record. Even if you continue to listen to their work on Spotify afterwards and never really use the download, they have at least gotten paid fairly for their work once without your house being filled with objects you don’t really want/need.
4:47 WHAAAA?!? I didn't know such a thing exists. They need to make the same thing for TH-cam; I see too many videos being silenced left and right (especially the unpopular ones with no trace of it left) and it leaves me in a limbo whether or not I'll ever see/hear that masterpiece again. Everyone has their own creative memorable process, and to see it go to waste like that based on a poor decision controlled by a corporate mindset makes it unfair for everyone involved.
Thanks for your balanced approach. I always enjoy your take on things.
I'd love a streaming service where I pay a sensible amount, 30% of which goes to the service and 70% is distributed, by play count, to the artists I've listened to. For such to exist would require a lot of capital to start, though, since to be sustainable you'd need a critical mass of paying customers, and for that you need content, and to get content you need listeners... getting major labels interested would require, basically, to bribe them into the system to begin with.
And to clarify: distribution based on MY play count, not a global one, so if I happen to listen to a Madonna song once not all of my money goes there.
Unfortunately that BBC tv tax is just about to fail. Although you could argue that's down to the BBC's service itself vs the fee rather than the concept of a fee/tax alone.
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I would be surprised if this person is the only one in the comment section who learned a few buzzwords without understanding the underlying concepts. That is neither good nor bad. It isn’t that shocking either. Not everyone can know everything about everything. But that is what this comment demonstrates
I only play devil's advocate with people who i'm really comfortable with, and even then i seem to piss them off about half of the time. Kudos for having the balls to do this on a public platform!
In all seriousness, i've been crypto-curious since 2012, and i lost most faith in it's original anarchistic goals by the 2017 bubble when it became just another asset for daytraders to get stressed over. Nevertheless i was somewhat enthusiastic about the idea of nft's and it's possible use for authorship and copyright. But the thing i never saw addressed in the whole hype is the fact that you need enforcement. From the get-go every nft holder has this idea that "i own the nft minted for , so i own the rights", but as far as i know not a single legislative institute has accepted nft's as a proof of copyright. I often hear the comparison that buying an nft is like buying the receipt to something, i would argue it's more akin to a receipt of a sale scribbled on a napkin, hoping napkins will one day be the receipt standards legally. And given the amount of useless tokens out there you can mint nft's on, i would argue the napkin is written on in pencil.
if you were crypto curious since 2012, by 2017 you should have learned it was all horseshit for dumb gambling addicts
What do you believe by anachronistic goals?
Also if you want more info, Folding Ideas did a deep dive on NFT's.
I love that you want to control your own narrative.
Why should copyright be a lifetime and patents only 20 years?
I think a publicly funded archive with streaming features would be good. It does make the freedom of speech on the internet deal much more complex because the 1st amendment would be involved for real.
I m gladly following and watching you making music.
oooo i didnt know you were involved in shorting stocks XD
I am also short SPOT with some lower strike short puts combined, basically like a short call position
I very much believe in the idea that future generations will look back on the way "we" do things now and be utterly confused in so many ways. To me, the world is still very much in its adolescence. The problems that the people of the world face will seem like such backwards ideas that are only there to serve a few and in the process grind down the rest. Thats why I appreciate your video about spotify because it serves as an example as to how these models are truly not in the service of artists, and will inevitably collapse. We need only to start being aware that they will give way to a future much better fit for all.
The only time I ever made a CD on my own (in 2010), I did all the artwork including a 16 page colour booklet - and a small company produced 100 of them for me, for £3 each - that includes a printed disc, and bear in mind this was a very small batch indeed. Are they really so much more expensive to produce these days? I find it sad. It's such a perfect medium... as a listener, I want music to be something I can buy and then listen to in perpetuity, with no danger of being stopped from doing so. Streaming is abhorrent to me (and I know I'm in a minority). If the death of CDs means Bandcamp downloads etc., then I guess that's fine - but I happen to love CDs and I'll really miss them.
Oh... and don't get me started on inter-track dropouts. Grrrrrr!
you seem really informed about so much important smart stuff. things that there seem to be loads of news about but never just the reality. do you keep up with any specific news service you feel provides consistent good content of this kind. if not, how do you go about your research?
4:58 missing the link to Exportify in the description? I can find it myself, but it might help others looking.
your eyebrow is really cool
That nationalized archive idea is the only good idea I've heard regarding this problem yet.
Your eyebrows are cool man, they speak of hardship and experience.