3 Door Buses might be SCRAPPED? | Wrightbus New Routemasters in London
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- Update:
On 30 August 2022 Transport for London has secured funding from the government:
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Photos of the buses being refurbished in September 2022 can be found here:
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Therefore, no they will not be scrapped at least for now.
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Maxson Goh Films a short showcase of the iconic Wrightbus New Routemasters that are a common sight in London. With TfL lacking the funds to refurbish them, will they be scrapped soon?
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Absolutely beautiful (if a little wacky) design. The early retiring of these buses would be a crime. If a minor refurb happens I hope it includes ironing out the rattles.
Since the video has been published, the refurbishment is going ahead, I've included links in the description for further reading.
Sad to see that the New Routemasters, the 3-door bus of London is about to be retired.
This marks the end of three-door buses in the UK, while in Singapore (and other places in Europe) it is flourishing.
I don't think they are. They are repainting them and giving them new seats as we speak.
3 door buses aren't as popular in the UK as bus services are less regulated by Parliament so companys don't like using them here as most bus services are commercially ran by the companies themselves which means they have to crackdown on fare evasion more
Why would they be scrapped? These are modern busses. At other places, there are older ones still in service
Yea true
Not electric. Also, not ergonomic enough compared to the competition. Some are looking at retrofit upgrades but its not been enough for now.
"Found my coat and grabbed my hat
, made the bus in seconds flat.
Found my way upstairs and had a smoke
, and somebody spoke and I went into a dream".
What will they replaced with? It better not be those bendy buses.
Bendy buses are not bad. Infact they are much better at handling high passenger loads with minimal journey times and most London roads where the busy routes run can handle bendy buses unlike what BoJo wants you to believe.
New electric single stairways with more up to date interiors, cameras, LCD infotainment, USB's, all that stuff.
Electric retrofits are available but they have less performance and range, also the interiors are outdated so they haven't seen much take up as of yet.
They’re not going to be withdrawn, they are getting refurbished. However, tfl couldn’t afford the extensive refurbishment they desired instead
And what do you mean by "refurbish?"
@@AhmedZ19 the most important beig the battery change however The interiors are a bit dated and need new seats stuff like that
@@Transport-Coolfunr Plans moved on from that now, hasn't been enough uptake, and the interiors will need upgrading too.
They could sell them but with a bus solely designed around London its gonna be hard to find a buyer
Exactly, it was never meant to be used outside the capital
@CyborgFire12 like sydney and wollongong, our busses here suck and they have no double decker BUT they used to have the old routemaster and our buses are squeaky and we have buses from mercedes and volvo and man
Sell them to people to convert
I wish they could have been upgraded more and retained, surely that would have been cheaper. The competition has left them in the dust and its hard to convince operators to retain them.
There are 1000 of them and considering the amount of money spent they made a good decision not to scrap for now so they are being refurbished and one was even electric converted which I think will be the future of these so they can probably serve longer than 14/15 years age limit
Looks quite nice though, no need to refurbish much, maybe just change the seat cushions? It's a waste if they get scrapped.
Indeed. It might be a tfl requirement to refurbish them at a certain time of it's lifespan, not too sure
They need a lot of work. Some still dont have windows. New buses are just offering more for the drivers and passengers now, if they're to be up to date next to the new buses.
Well, I think they can change the engines to be fully electric, instead of scrapping, and for the interior, maybe add kismet seat cushions. Anyways, these buses have the potential to serve London for many years to come 😊
I know, but if they were to change their engines, they could collaborate with a another company (TFL pays half, the other pays half), then I think it will be solved, and they won’t be scrapped
If not, Londoners can do a vote on whether to scrap them or let it stay
@@brendannotfound That would be even more expensive
They are converting some into NRM RVS
So much for modernisation. Still loads of rattles and squeaks
I mean if you think about it they started service is 2012 and it's 2024 now so 12 years already.
Hopefully one day these buses will be preserveable.
buses I hope to get preserved are.
LT1
LT2
LT50
LT100
Any Euro 6 LT with the sliding door at the back.
And LT1000
I suppose that per the culture here, the first and last ones would surely be preserved, especially for such a significant (and controversial!) model
@@glitchFan2428 yh LT1 and LT2 were new for route 38 and LT2 wears the London Transport livery
@@Transportman211 ye I remember seeing LT2 around
Also lt140 cuz it has a sticker in the back
Of course early withdrawal of these buses typifies Bawbags spending policies. Designed and built as one of his toys.
holdup, 0:38 and 7:19 feature different door sliding positions. According to my info, there was a batch 1 in 2012 and a batch 2 in 2016. Which is which?
Guessing LT1-LT516 are Batch 1, with the inward door and openable rear part; and LT517-1000 are Batch 2, with the sliding rear door and fixed rear part
@@jem_suu thankyou
as the Reg is 598 - batch 2.
Sad to see that it dont have longer lifespan, if they sell this sg they can be replacement of volvo b8l
Would be go ahead carnival vibes all over again!
According to many schools, face covering was in British English and face mask was in American English.
Seems like it. Singapore does refer to it as face mask though
great - but what has you comment got to do with London Buses
The old RM gave good service for 50 years.
But that’s because they was built to be maintained by the engineer, these NRMs was built to cut emissions and to look good, hence why I hate working on these buses
Old RM was a totally different design. It was designed to be taken apart and rebuilt like a locomotive every 12 years. Thus it could have a 40 year life easily. The new buses are designed to be used and then scrapped after 12 to 15 years.
They should to stick with them but not use the doors keep as a show on road for just 2 door use
Tbf.. the first of these buses were introduced in 2012. At the time TfL worked on the basis that no bus would operate for more than 2 contracts.. ie a maximum of 14 years. Therefore the NBFL was designed to be withdrawn from 2026 onwards... which is probably what will happen... nowhere near as scandalous as Boris ordering the withdrawal of all bendybuses almost immediately which resulted in some buses being withdrawn when less than 5 years old.
These vehicles have already been going to be converted to Electric buses. Metroline are already operating them on the 390 route
Fun fact : some of these buses are becoming electric and not diesel
I think TFL tried to sell these buses outside London. One went to XELABUS in Southampton but they hated the three door scheme.
I had no idea they cost so much....Shocking price. The very idea of scrapping them after just 12 years is an utter outrage, considering the RM lasted for over 50 years!
How is it, that the British people of the 1950s, could design and build a bus that could last for five decades, and today's generation, with ALL the advances in materials and computers....can't design a bus that lasts 15 years!!
Since this video's publication tfl subsequently announced the buses won't be going for scrap 👍
Older buses were simpler and didn't have so many regulations. These days there are so many regulations on emission standards, noise standards, safety standards, fuel standards, this that and the other, things go obsolete much more quickly and we have a throw away culture now.
They will be scrapped and replaced with BD11’s
That's a shame
ikr
Why wouldn't they sell it to Singapore instead?
Agreed
Probably wouldn't work well in such a warm climate when the air conditioning of these things are so shit and always broken even for the driver
@@wclifton968gameplaystutorials ah
SG double deck buses normally have 3 axels, they probably wouldn't want to buy the 2 axel buses from London
They don't even have air conditioning, only openable windows
They were designed to look like the original Routemaster you state. They look nothing like them. They may have been inspired by them and conform to modern standards and laws. The end result is a bus which probably won't last as long, have the same appeal or affection as the originals. Some were glad to see them go, but the RM and it's variations, RML, RCL, RMC etc. along with the RT's, RF's and STL's were testament to the best of british designs.
Gotta love a RF. They are so cute
@@glitchFan2428 Yes, I would say that too.
Sell to SG Or Scrapped
Imagine if they make a single decker routemaster tho
Aren't they new?
Scrapping them is like buying C801As and then choosing to replace the whole bplrt
No the came out years back in 2014 to help improve air quality but since they use their diesel engine nearly 100% of the time its pretty useless. Plus these buses arent owned by Arriva or Tower Transit TLF own them.
They don’t cost anywhere close to twice as much.
are those small sliding windows normally kept open..?
I am glad that they are getting replaced as they almost took over lots of bus routes, they even operate in zone 6 areas, where they were supposed to operate only in central London areas only, if every buses where new route master London bus fleet would have been boring.
i dont think they'll be going any time soon
given that the 248 has just been blessed with then in September and conracts last for about 4/5 years.....
Yeah subsequently after this video was made I found out they were refurbishing them
That alarm sound of the 3rd doors in the bus was 55
why?????
Hi!
Not to retire, refurbish the fleet
Yeah, I updated the description with the subsequent media releases 👍🏻
Bring back the old routemaster buses
Damn I was really excited for them to be scrapped only to now learn of their refurbishment. These buses are awful in so many ways and they need to be rid of! Money spent refurbishing them could be spent better elsewhere by purchasing or leasing better buses!
Oh well, we don't make the decisions
as a guy that lives in Dublin i think there great looking
Since I made this video they have confirmed that it won't be scrapped yet
Hi Glitchfan 2428, I did some reasearch and this same kind of bus visited Singapore once. Very sad its gonna retire soon.
Yes it's the same type. I filmed the exact bus that visited Singapore in London during my trip as well.
Sell to Singapore or scrapped in Singapore
i dont think LTA would procure these
@@grozaphy The model can be procured, but they just bring the elements to Alexander Dennis Enviro500 (3-door bus) for that matter.
Wow that's shocking
But since u can preserve a bus in the UK then maybe it will be?
The significant ones will very likely be preserved regardless
Maybe just bring back the bendy buses more space than a double decker
Unpopular opinion but I agree with you! Just cos I like to see them bending around 😅
@@glitchFan2428
I think they would be better than double deckers on the SL7.
Need to refurbish meh… looks ok sia. Running smoothly can liaoz
Arriva Sapphire are in desperate need of new busses, and these would be a great choice.
Would look very cool in their livery tbh
but you can't have multi-door buses outside of London, o b v i o u s l y (2-door buses are already a violation of an unspoken rule and 3-door buses would be even worse)
@@notthatntg I actually didn’t know that
@@notthatntg what's the basis of this unspoken rule though, I've always been curious
multi door buses are allowed outside of London, some get converted to one door but it's not required.
FAST GAME 🔥🔥🔥
Yes please! These are by far the worst London busses, they feel cheap, are not space efficient and are extremely ugly.
Unfortunately (for you) since this video was posted, refurbishment works on these buses have commenced
*"Yes please! These are by far the worst London busses, they feel cheap, are not space efficient and are extremely ugly"*
Disrespectful death wisher!
Is it really that old? cause it looks like it can be sold to poorer countries instead of being scrapped like some other older buses
The oldest ones are from 2012, branded as the new bus for London
Nice vid always used to take them on the 15
So they will scrap and replace
i really hope they stay, they’re incredibly iconic
Yep they are staying, got some information after posting the video that they are being refurbished
They are about as iconic as a turd.
@@glitchFan2428 that's good news 👏🏾
These do my local the 111 they are not very good let’s say but they are lucky it got 111 busier
Rubbish. Where did you hear that? I can’t see anything on line. The buses are safe. They are being refurbished right now. The funding is in place for the refurbishment.
Loads of articles online, including the one I linked in the description. If the funding is in place already, I do look forward to seeing what a refurbished unit will look like 👍🏻
@@glitchFan2428 Hi. A few have been refurbished already. I cant remember what changes have been made other than panel replacement, repaintand the seat cushions have changed with a slightly different maquette that I read about.
I haven’t been up to London since before the pandemic so I can’t say what the updated ones are like or how many have been refurbished so far.
@@gman1353 I did observe that some of the seat moquettes are different, although me being a visitor from Manchester, I assumed that they had them since new. Style wise they are much nicer than the buses up north 🙂
the drivers of these routemasters are usually mad
The drivers of any bus are usually mad, not just Routemaster. Are you suggesting that only Routemaster bus drivers get mad?
Wait what
Clickbait headline.
So it cost twice as much as a standard double decker. So here's an idea, we'll scrap them. Absolute rubbish click bait.😂 These buses are brilliant, at last a new bus built for London. Best bus in London service. All the others are just bog standard off-the-peg low build quality busses used all over the country, made only just suitable for London use by having two door sets. The speed at which the New Routemaster can unload a full passenger load at the terminus is well impressive. Two staircases is brilliant, and a great safety feature in cases of fires and crashes, one blocked and you can use the other. The additional platform door speeds up unloading. All of London's arterial bus routes should have these. A fully electric version should go into production immediately. Stop fobbing Londoners off with buses clearly not built to cope with London service. Khan stopped the ongoing production of these excellent buses because he couldn't stomach it being a Boris Johnson project. These were UK built vehicles. So now we have China building and supplying buses for London. Well done Mayor Khan, give away UK jobs. WTF?
At the time of the video's publication, their future were still very uncertain and there were talks about scrapping them instead of the typical mid life refurbishment. This has now changed and I have attached the article in the description. That being said it truly is sad that the new London bus will potentially be Chinese.
second
first and nice
they are very noisy.