The Ocarina of Time Mystery - Zelda Theory (Ft Zeltik)
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How old is the Ocarina of Time, who made it and did it survive to Breath of the Wild and Breath of the Wild's Sequel / Breath of the Wild 2? In this Zelda Theory with Zeltik we got over the Great Mystery of the Ocarina of Time!
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I have a personal theory about the Ocarina of time. We know from Skyward Sword that timeshift stones don't have infinite energy and can run out if you use them too much. We also know that the goddess Hylia has incredible foresight and can develop plans 1000s of years in advance.
So what if Zelda after SS created the ocarina and knew exactly how much timeshift stone energy it needed so that it would run out after OoT/MM when its purpose was complete. That way it's also possible that the ocarina from alttp is the ocarina of time, just without magic
Nice idea! Good point that the Ocarina would eventually run out of juice.
Yea and she probably split the timeline because it was like an avengers moment. She probably knew that splitting it was the only way to avoid impending doom
@@sleepykittyMMD She didn't split the timeline knowingly lol it wasn't even a concept, until after Wind Waker was finished
@@killertofu586 but she has omnipotent powers, if the princess in Botw can reference the other timelines isn’t it reasonable to think oot Zelda could have seen the future and decided to split it given how the series has evolved?
@@sleepykittyMMD She references multiple timelines in BoTW because it's so far in the future that either the other timelines never happened, and are just legends... OR, what I believe, the timelines somehow MERGED.
I suppose it's "reasonable" to believe that she could have purposely done it, but she was just supposed to be Zelda, back when the game was out. She's had prophetic dreams, in multiple games, but always dealing with events soon to happen. It wasn't until Skyward Sword that there even was a Goddess Hylia, who was reborn AS Zelda, and could see across multiple timelines. Only after that game was it ever decided that she has "omnipotent powers," and she still doesn't; she only descended from a goddess. She doesn't show omnipotence in the game, or BoTW, that I can remember. Zelda almost definitely didn't anticipate that there would be anything like that, because the developers didn't even have the idea to split the timeline until after a good deal of Twilight Princess was complete
I would love for Link to have a musical instrument in botw 2. If not the Goddess Harp or Ocarina of Time, maybe Kass's accordion.
Yoo that's actually a good ideia, maybe he gives you on the sequel for some reason
Bagpipes, I want him to play bagpipes!
As odd as it sounds, I think breath of the wild link is the first link to not have any musical instruments (if you consider wolf howling in twilight princess an instrument). Horse whistling is close but I'm not sure I'd count it.
If Link does get an accordion as an instrument, it would probably be a replica of Kass’. I would love to see that.
Maybe the ocarina of the winds could be used to fast travel to the sky islands
It’s a good speculation. The Ocarina of Time would be considered a treasure to the royal family and a relic of the bravery of the Hero of Time, so I think it still exists. Hidden in the castle? No. I don’t think it would be there. If anywhere, I would peg it as being hidden in a chamber beneath the remains of the Temple of Time. Perhaps that’s why so many guardians were around it. Maybe Ganon sent them there to search. There had to be something significant about the ruins since it’s the only place on the Great Plateau where there are a large swath of guardians. I think they came up the ruined stairs, branched out to the ruins on the left where the shrine is located that must have also been significant to the temple and were going to scour the Temple of Time to find it. There are some ruins in Twilight Princess with chambers under them that are attached to the Temple of Time via the magic that keeps the Temple intact. Maybe that same magic would restore the Temple and ruins in BOTW and reveal the location of the Ocarina in one of those places. It seems like Twilight Princess utilized a version of the time stones without actually showing said stones. Anyway, yes, I believe it still exists in another form of time, and I believe it exists within the protection of the Temple of Time due to the large decaying guardian presence there when Link awakens.
If there still is any hope left of time travel in Botw2, I hope it happens like this.
@@beesmongeese2978 same
I love this comment. I personally think it is hidden away in the lost woods. I have a whole theory but want to see if another guy makes a video on it. It connects to another existing theory. I think it will be proven or disproven in the coming games.
I mostly expect it to be a fast travel point for the sky islands. That or the king's grave on mountain hylia.
I would have to say that as well or hidden within the chamber that the Hero of Time was buried in years after the ocarina of Time but I feel like a few songs were learned by each future ancestors of that Link yet it really only works if his tomb is in the Temple of Time
Honestly, I'm of the opinion that n the Child Timeline, the Ocarina of Time is instrument that Skull Kid plays in Twilight Princess: Given to him by his friend the Hero of Time as a token of friendship and to make sure it stays safe and doesn't fall into wrong hands.
We know it changes shape to accommodate it's users (aka when Link changes into a Deku/Goron/Zora), so maybe it did the same thing happened to Skull Kid. After the events of MM, he became worthy of playing it!
My own speculation anyways.
yes skull kid definitely a worthy!!
i like that idea...
but wasn't that skull kid in termina, and the lost woods of TP are in hyrule
how do you connect that?
@@alakazamlover4908 Somehow he must've gotten out. It would be weird if a random Skull kid guides you to one of the most important locations in Zelda history
@@juandirection3751 weird but not unlikely
What about the "flute" in A Link to the Past? It's clearly an Ocarina, and it's blue. It may be the Ocarina of Time (likewise, the "duck" Link summons with it could very well be a Loftwing). Since it doesn't appear in A Link Between Worlds, perhaps Link returned it to the kid in the sacred grove after his adventure.
As for the Child Timeline, my headcanon is right at the end of his life, Link gave the Ocarina of Time to Skullkid. Assuming Skullkids are functionally immortal, and he's pretty much chaos incarnate, that might be the best way to ensure no one else ever gets ahold of one of the keys to the Sacred Realm.
Also supporting this theory, I don't remember a game in the child timeline having references to the sacred realm at all.
Supporting this would be that they play saria’s song on the ocarina while depicting the stump. The stump shows a drawing, clearly drawn by the same artist as the one of skull kid and the fairies on the log in termina field (I.e. skull kid himself). Skull kid also mentions, when finally dispossessed of Majora’s Mask, that Link looks like that kid who taught him the song in the woods. Not gonna get into it too much, but since Skull Kid in OoT needs link/the player to play that song in order to prove yourself, that means Saria herself taught him the song. So it would make sense that skull kid had the ocarina and was playing her song after drawing the image of himself and link on the stump. Great theory! Never thought of skull kid keeping the ocarina, but now I’m convinced, especially with him being something of a gate-keeper for TP Link
@@beesmongeese2978 Twilight Princess - the Interlopers tried to invade the SR
If that’s the game where it’s in a dream could it be that they were similar but not quite the items we are used to
@@wnrr2696 I think you’re talking about Link’s Awakening. That’s in the downfall timeline and a direct sequel to A Link to the Past.
I’d really love to see a new cutscene/memory that link could have in botw2 of young link just talking with Skull Kid, I really loved that scene where he asked to be friends.
I kind of prefer to go with a variant of the "literal legend" timeline theory. Basically, the Ocarina doesn't appear in most later games simply because it isn't needed and wouldn't fulfill any major role. If a game comes up where an item like the Ocarina is called for, *then* it may come back in one way or another.
Bad take. Only the Hero of Time should EVER use the ocarina and I would find a murder the idiot who thought it was a good idea to bring the item back.
Ocarina of time holds a special place in my heart. Majora's mask as well. That first playthrough with my pages of tips I printed from some cheat code website collecting all the masks. Good times man. I hope both these games get righteous remasters.
I do too MM 3d did the game dirty adding a whole bunch of eyeballs to bosses that never needed them and ruining fun mechanics like the zora swim and deku skip
The real mystery, what happened to the Fairy Ocarina? Did Link just leave it in the moat? Chilling in Link's treehouse? We may never know.
I think Kass will teach the Hero of the Wild how to use the accordion. Just imagine using the joy-cons to play music in the game.
*rip to switch lite players*
Harp horror intensifies*
Please no
@@ShadowSkyX "those who do not know the story are doomed to repeat the wii controls"
xD
Ocarina of Time will always be the most iconic game of all Zelda games let's be honest
Botw.
@@davids7755 Ok that too and Twilight Princess
I think it's a matter of time and context as well. I was there when OoT came out on the N64 and it was amazing and firmly cemented its status. On the other hand when I played BotW I had a similar expereince; that's what make this series so special in that it imparts memories that will stay with you long after you are done playing. Truly, they are legends.
@@alexsaavedra644 Yup that's true. I mean the Zelda games are in somewhat a timeline for example, Twilight Princess is a sequel to Majora's Mask for many reasons and I'm sure we've all known to begin with. There is a lore behind The Legend of Zelda franchise I'm sure a lot of people know that Skyward Sword because the first time a Link showed up to save the world
I think your right "in a way" I think it set the standard that every game after followed
One of my favorite Zelda items which led to many of my favorite Zelda songs.
keep in mind, that when all 3 timelines merge they somewhat split into 2 timelines with botw and age of calamity
4:06 “tight security”
Speedrunners: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t hear that
I don't think I'll ever get sick of zelda videos
i would love to see the ocarina return to future zelda games, music really was a big part of the franchise so not having something at least related felt weird to me in breath of the wild
This speculative lore makes me hunger for a FromSoft made Zelda game. Goodness that would be so good.
I agree.
@@frankgrimes7388 no but it has a bunch of mechanics I’d love to see in the Zelda series especially in regards to weapons it’d be awesome to have your weapon choice encouraged to go in different directions by doing different kinds like in DS a skeleton will fall apart when hit with a bludgeoning weapon, most normal enemies will be smashed into the ground by a great/ultra great sword I’d love to see this kind of mechanic inserted into a Zelda like say a spear will do increased damage to say lizalfos due to their soft underbelly, a moblin could take extra damage from clubs due to their height, and armored enemies like darknuts could have resistance to most weapons but take extra damage from things like war hammers and war picks botw wild forces weapon changes by breaking them every 5 seconds which isn’t subtle it’s smacking the weapon out of your hand whenever things are getting just a little too fun
Now THAT is something I can get behind. 😆😆😆
I know I'm just some random loser on the internet, but since you bring up From, theres something sort of interesting about my experience with the games...
but FR...don't bother unless you wanna read a long and probably really pointless story 🤣
I never had an N64. I never played Ocarina (or any Zelda since) until... well... right now. Lol. Im playing it now. I had an Atari growing up, an NES around the time I turned 8, and a SNES sometime around 10 or 12 or so, and LttP was my favorite game for years and years. Around 14 I started playing guitar, and that kind of took over 100% of my time after that. I got back into gaming about ten years later, but in my 20's when I could only afford to get one system, I was more all about GTA, Silent Hill and Tony Hawk lmao. So I never played any of those Nintendo games. Early 2019 I got a Switch because I just HAD to play BotW, and absolutely loved it. This year I got myself a 3DS because enough was enough and I had some serious catching up to do 🤣 and the 3DS is only missing like, 4..or 5...Zelda games? Basically it's only missing Minish, WW, TP, and SS. And BotW obv.
So... I was also really late to Dark Souls. I think I got it in 2013? But I totally sucked and couldn't progress for shit. It wasn't until 2018 when something clicked and suddenly I realized what the game wanted from me and I rocked right through it. ... in like a month. Lmao. I was totally taking my time with it though.... I loved it so gd much.
Anyway, to make a long story very LONG, when I was playing Dark Souls I was like... what is so familiar about this? I'll be honest, 3 years later I'm still trying to put my finger on it (which is why I'm writing a big ass thing about it now), but yeah... it very very strongly felt EXACTLY like what was my favorite game of all time for so many years. Link to the Past.
Not Ocarina. Because I never played it until long after DS.
I really want to do a video series on Zelda, I'm always thinking about it... kind of in the style of King K or Matthewmatosis, but I'd want to take a more objective view on each game, because I don't really have the nostalgia other people do. Besides the first couple games obviously...
I mean clearly I have a lot to say... lmao 😅
But on the subjective side, I feel like LttP and Zelda 1 get a pretty bad rap here on youtube. I'm surprised how many Zelda fans are just outwardly hateful towards them. Which is insane to me. People talk about Ocarina still holding up by today's standards, but say the earlier games are unplayable. 🤣🙄 Like, come on...
Anyway, sorry about rambling... thanks for giving me a chance to talk about some games I love for a while.
I don't really have anyone to talk to anymore tbh. 😅 My only sister died at the end of 2018 and I think I'm going a bit mental. 😅
It's the roasting Zelda during the sponsor for me ...
I really appreciate both of your attention to detail with the fidelity of this footage! Felt like I was seeing these moments in the best visual presentation possible. Very refreshing
Side note: 12:19 is a terrifying image
Since you're talking about the Ocarina of Time, I wish to bring attention to the bootstrap paradox that is the Song of Storms in the game of OoT.
Anybody who's played the game knows that you only learn the Song of Storms as an adult, because you teach the man inside the windmill the Song of Storms as a child, but you can only teach him that song as a child because he teaches to you as an adult.
Now what I have recently come to realize, is that the Song of Storms is not a bootstrap paradox, because Link learns the Song of Storms in the land of Termina.
Therefore after returning from Termina, Link would then go on to eventually teach the man inside the windmill the Song of Storms, who would then teach it to adult Link.
I see what Nintendo did there!
The original idea was rather flawed and more of a funny idea that was implemented. Always loved it though!
Thanks for pointing that bit of info out that I never connected myself.
Makes total sense!
That's a spooky implication because the man tells Link that the boy from seven years ago drained the town's water supply which we know Link does when going back to a kid in order to get the Lense of Truth and defeat the evils under the well, but if you say MM Link made sure to go back to teach the song to the man in order to introduce the loop, the location of this meeting would still have caused the water to drain out. So even if it was for the greater good (as Link didn't trust everything to be okay after Zelda sent him back and Ganondorf was sealed, he felt the song needed to be passed) it's why we see Kakariko Village as a dry canyon-like location in TP. If it actually has any connection at all to the old one that is.
That was a _great_ segue into the sponsored ad!
fantastic theory as always
Link probably died with the Ocarina of Time in the Child Timeline, maybe his stalfos form still held onto it?
Hero’s shade is not a Stalfos
Well yes, give the sacred ocarina to the imp, he seems more than competent when it comes to wielding magical objects, *what could possibly go wrong?*
Hey, I hear that Tim de Man music at the end. Excellent touch
double encryption for extra protection...unlike sheika tech...lol best marketing strategy ever
I’m playing OoT for the first time right now. I’m currently at the spirit temple :D
Update: I beat it about a week ago it is one of the best games I’ve ever played.
Oh! Awesome man! Enjoy it.
Cool
When did you start playing it?
@@nighthowl5582 about a month ago
@@orikku is it the remake on the 3ds or the original on n64?
Awesome video guys I have a theory for you in Majora's Mask the Ocarina of time changes shape multiple times depending on what mask you're wearing what if in Twilight Princess the skull kid in the Forest Temple is actually using the Ocarina of Time it's similar to the Ocarina of the Deku sprout version of the Ocarina of Time so what if it's transforming shape for the Skull Kid
i love this video. after playing BotW, I was really struggling with how nintendo would explain all the incontinuity, so my opinion was that they should just place it in the middle, far beyond all the timelines, and not connected to any particular one. So i totally agree with your theory and i think this video gives a very beautiful full picture of the zelda timeline, bringing all games together in a very satisfying way. :D
My head cannon for things looking different in some games is because they're stories retold by someone. They're legends, hence The Legend of Zelda
14:30 Hey, a blue rupee.
That's not too shabby!
Zeltik is probably my favorite zelda creator
bro this is the best birthday present ever thank you i loved the theory
"Even hackers, like gannondorf" made me belly laugh
14:38 look at the shape that is made from the timelines. It looks a lot like the shape of a Timeshift Stone.
Or just a rupee.
The most iconic in MY opinion are The Original Legend of Zelda, A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, and Breath of the Wild. They all broke new ground in the industry. My absolute faves are Ocarina, Majora, Link Between Worlds, Skyward Sword and BoTW, but I think the ones I first mentioned are probably the greatest in terms of icon status.
that was a really smooth add segue ngl
That sponsership message transition made me laugh
I have enjoyed playing all the Zelda games I got my hands on except the ones on the Wii. The motions controls killed my gameplay but I still enjoyed the games. Ocarina was definitely my favorite. Breath of the wild blew me away and Tears of the Kingdom convinced me that we can never go back. I have been playing video games since Pong. Would I love a remake of OOT. Yes. But looking forward to the next Switch Zelda which is years away. Great collaboration guys. I really enjoyed it.
A Redead jumped on Zelda and broke the Ocarina while it was doing its business lmao
5 Theory videos pop up.. I am always picking Commonwealth because they are so much more in depth with the explaining and the videos are much more interesting.
I can't be the only one who wants this item to make a return.
I always just figured the hero of time has it, and always will.
oof you had me at "similar to the dragon break in elder scrolls." subscribed
The map at 13:06 looks like the head of Finn, from Adventure Time...
This is my top 10 all time: 🛡️⚔️
#10 A Link To The Past
#9 Link’s Awakening
#8 Twilight Princess
#7 Minish Cap
#6 A Link Between Worlds
#5 TOTK
#4 BOTW
#3 Majora’s Mask
#2 Wind Waker
#1 Ocarina of Time
Honorable Mention: Spirit Tracks
OoT, WW, and MM are still considered the Holy Trinity of Zelda and always will be. As far as OoT goes if you look past the gameplay mechanics and controls(although for it’s time was amazing) you’ll understand that even today it still holds up as a timeless classic. It still by far has the best music and it’s not even close. It still has the most memorable characters, great dungeons, good story, excellent writing, excellent character development, deep lore, and also at times a sense of loneliness and mystery(like the graveyard, traveling through Hyrule field at night, bottom of the well, leaving friends behind, etc…) It is the ultimate story of courage, wisdom, power. A boy learning how to become a man. Epona is absolutely amazing and Lon Lon Ranch is a top 10 Zelda song of all time easily. Also, let’s not forget one of the greatest characters of all… Sheik.
I never understand why people have Wind Waker so low on their all time lists. Wind Waker soundtrack is the only one EVER to come even remotely close to Ocarina of Time. It’s heavily known for its cheerful bright vibes but it actually has one of the deepest and darkest stories of the whole Zelda franchise. The story, lore, music, characters, side quests, companion, open world, traveling, and most of all the symbolism behind everything. It also has arguably the greatest version of Ganondorf. The Ganondorf in Wind Waker was the same Ganondorf that the Hero of Time sealed away in the Sacred Realm. It’s absolutely beautiful and I find it to be one of the most memorable Zelda experiences of all time.
As a kid I didn’t necessarily enjoy Majora’s Mask because when I was younger I did not always understand what I was supposed to do or where I was supposed to go. However, as time passed on and as I started to get older, I started realizing just how special this game really is. The deepest, saddest, strangest, creepiest, and the most unique Zelda experience of all time and it’s absolutely amazing.
Conrad think about it in A Link to the Past when you go to the weather Maine you get to use the Ocarina of Time
@15:21 it is mentioned that the great hall is "blocked by rubble, along with the king's private quarters" and for whatever reason this instantly made me think of something....
What if the kings quarters has some major spoiler content for BOTW2? Why else would they block off such a huge portion of the castle? It never made any sense to me.
I believe that King Rhoam's quarters has details about the reemergence of Ganondorf (NOT ganon, they obviously knew nothing about Ganon and his calamity form until the fortune teller).
I think the sheikah are either lying or being sneaky with us in BOTW. The monks were able to anticipate that Ganon would reemerge 10k years in the future and set up the shrines as a way to prep for him. How the hell would they not know about the ganondorf, the foe that is probably the most dangerous incantation of the demon king yet? The monks HAD to have known, they DEFINITELY let the royal family know (they were the right-hand people to the royal family, this would be the highest betryal if they didn't forewarn them, right?).
If the royal family knew, do we really think that King Rhoam Bosphoramus Hyrule would let Zelda and Link in on these highly private pieces of information? He didn't think the other sheikah artifacts were helpful and forebade Zelda from researching them. So, why would he think an ancient warning about Ganondorf's true form would be any more helpful?
if the OOT is made of the same material as Timeshift Stones (likely), it would make sense that the destruction of all of them would be similar to the effects of deactivating a Timeshift Stone. The magic that was once controlling time is no longer present so it reverts back to it's original state which, in the case of the OOT, is going from 3 timelines back to 1 but at the current progress along all of them. (similar to how modifying the past with Timeshift Stones affects the future once deactivated)
i know it's confirmed that the first hyrule warriors game is non cannon, but it actually makes sense for that to be the cause of the three timelines converging seeing how that's the plot of the game
dosent hyrule warriors end with all of the different times/areas returning to normal?
this notion has been mentioned in other comments, but i would like to go more in depth -
there is an example of a blue ocarina in the downfall timeline. it is in "A Link to the Past", and it is used to summon the bird for fast travel and is called the "flute" in game. beyond the visual similarity there is also the fact that while it rests buried in the grove where the boy would play for the animals, an echo of the boy haunts the grove playing his songs even though the real live version of the boy is trapped in the dark world, so the echo itself is unlikely to be the boy's spirit. as soon as you collect that Ocarina the echo fades away and never returns. this suggests that the Ocarina had somehow recorded the boy's past actions and was manifesting that recording directly into the physical world.
then, the Ocarina is used to revive a bird in the town square that has been turned into or encased in stone. the existence of the echo and the ability to revive the stone bird suggest strong mystical powers that could be interpreted as time altering capabilities.
Every old-time zelda fan will remember zelda theme
How often do you want to see the timeline in form of a rupee?
Commonwealth Realm: yes
Brilliant.
What if Breath of the Wild has time travel, but to the different timelines. This could allow Link to cause the events that unify the timelines into one or for those events to simply be extrapolated on
That's not how time travel works. When you travel through time, you can only head into the established past or the future your timeline is set on. What your suggesting is traveling to different realities like in A Link Between Worlds(Remember the primary difference in Lorule was that they destroyed their Triforce, leading it to branch off from the established timeline). I've never been a fan of this "reunified timeline" theory, because by that logic there would be 3 Links, 3 Zeldas, 3 Ganondorfs, and 3 Triforces, which would be an overabundance of power. It's just too absurd to ever be possible based on TLoZ's established lore.
@@elitegamer9310 It might not be possible, and I highly doubt that Nintendo would do that, but I thought it was an interesting what if scenario nonetheless
I've been saying it would be cool to have to links, one in the present and one in the past and they intact through temples. I have a feeling botw 2 is linked to skyward sword somehow
Huh? Now that we can get a good look at Sheik's harp, it's design is that of the Goddess Harp from Skyward Sword (in the 3DS version at least)! This makes sense as OoT for the 3DS was released only mere months before Skyward Sword was released for the Wii!
"Princess Zelda always messes up the security of Hyrule castle"
You should have stopped at "Ganondorf the hacker".
i would love for music to come back in BotW2, and the idea of all 3 artefacts present in and responsible for the split at its conclusion would be amazinnnggg
although a part of me wants Link to learn the accordion like the artwork shows haha
I would absolutely love for Zelda to be playable in BotW2 and for you to reobtain the harp for her and the ocarina for yourself and for the convergence of the timelines to be confirmed and for you to be told about how the artifacts were destroyed and how each of the 3 timelines carried one of them to the unified timeline.
It would make much more sense if the destruction of the OOT is the reason the timelines merged.
In fact if there are 3 OOT then it would be PERFECT if the destruction of all 3 would disband the magic they were using to keep all the different timelines separated.
This would also perfectly explain how elements from all 3 timelimes are present in BotW.
Maybe the harp could be Zelda’s instrument if she is playable, and it could even have a blue sash tied to it just like Revali’s Great Eagle Bow.
Link: but zelda i want to stay in the adult timeline and celebrate
Zelda: YOUR NOT ALOUD!!!!!!!
Theory: the sheikah slate does have the power to stop time briefly. What if the ocarina was shattered at some point and a piece of it is what gives the shiekah slate that power?
The sheikah slate and ocarina both use teleportation and the pedestals are what makes it possible. Botw made me re-evaluate the older games and made me realize the advanced technology aspect has _always_ existed in the series. It just gets passed off as magic most of the time. I read a comment once that said magic is just technology too advanced to understand, and that seems to hold true for the zelda series. Botw is just the most upfront about it (Spirit tracks notwithstanding and link's awakening with the phones and warp panels).
I'm really ready for a musical element to return to a main Zelda game. Breath of the Wild 2 would be fantastic with some kind of instrument or musical mechanic. It would be a nice return to some of the Zelda formula elements that was missing from the first one. It doesn't have to be the ocarina. Maybe a wooden flute of some sort since there is a lot of Japanese influence or a lyre or lute for more of the Western influences?
I'm also curious about what happend to the jewels that served as keys to the door of time. We see their likeness in future games but the jewels themselves are seemingly absent.
Could this be another important detail? At 06:55 the Impa of Ocarina of Time says this: "My role in the princess's dream was to teach a melody to the one from the forest." And then proceeds to do exactly that, but not just any song, but specifically Zelda's Lullaby. This song played a crucial role during the events of Ocarina, where Link used it to raise and lower the water levels in the Water Temple (and it could do the same within the bottom of the well), start the boat ride in the Shadow Temple, as well as a method of getting into the Zora's Domain as child, where Lord Jabu-Jabu and Zora's Sapphire awaited. What did those triggers have in common? A clear and obvious Triforce symbol. Only the royal family and their allies could be aware of their existence, and Impa certainly was. Impa, you fulfilled that role perfectly!
id like to think that the ocarina is out there somewhere still. Maybe one of the ancient sages is holding it until the right moment, perhaps the oracle of time took it and the goddess harp, for who could keep such things well hidden from prying eyes than one who controls time, or perhaps the goddess of time got tired of all the shenanigans being caused and just took it, either way it will probably appear in an unexpected way and the nostalgia it will trigger will be massive
What if the "Goddess of Time" is Fi? It'd make sense especially if the Master Sword and the Ocarina are made from the same material
I've kinda had this theory/wish for a while bubbling in my brain about how Nintendo could bring back iconic Zelda items and the former incarnations of Link & Zelda in BoTW 2 (in spirit form, like the Champions + the king in BoTW). I really want the different dungeons to each be themed around a specific Link and his respective game (but not too similar to the dungeons in that Link's game, just having aspects of it calling back to its source material. A cool way of doing this would be having the BoTW 2 dungeons be set in the ruins of the OG game's dungeons but having certain sections of its map be blocked off, if that makes any sense).
At the end of beating each temple, you would be greeted by a former Link in spirit form and he would give a speech congratulating you/providing lore bits/hinting of what happened to him after the events of his games etc. Also alike to how the Champions act at the end of their Divine Beast, the former Link would conclude the dungeon by giving you one of the objects critical to their own quest that will also be very useful in yours (ex: the hook shot from TP Link, the Ocarina of Time from OoT, etc.) If Zelda's playable or partially playable at all, it would be cool to see a similar formula be replicate as she travels through dungeons and meets former Zeldas. Imagine a final boss where both BoTW 2 Link and Zel team up to beat Ganon with the whole cavalry on their sides!
I think this would be an awesome nostalgia trip for veteran gamers but at the same time refreshing in BoTW's new setting and graphics.
Man honestly i wanted botw2 to also be a pseudo 3rd title to the Oot+Mm games but this is an awesome idea.
Agreed although OoT IMO should give the Hookshot since... well let's be honest I've already seen comments whining and complaining about how "Only the Hero of Time should get the Ocarina of Time!" and the Hookshot can both be useful (especially in an open world Zelda like BOTW and what it's sequel is likely gonna be) and you can get creative with it in an environment like this. The Windwaker on the other hand (I'd like to remind everyone that the Hero of the Winds EARNED his title by repairing the separated pieces of the Triforce of Courage as a hero so there was a point) would be a nice nod to the game of the same title, I mean between the Rafts from the first game that'll likely return that you could have an easier time deal with and the whole islands in the Sky thing it'd make sense! and for TP, well the Hookshot is just ONE item from one of my fav Zelda titles and... well between the Ball and Chain item, the Gale Boomerang, the Dominion Rod, AND that giant top you can ride and smash into enemies with, I think there are a fair few choices. I can already imagine BOTW Link sneaking up on a camp of Bokoblins in a full set of Sheikah armor sneaking up on them while it's raining and night time when.... HE SMASHES A BOKOBLIN'S FACE IN WITH THE BALL AND CHAIN! ROFL
I think the ocarina of time is buried with the hero of time/heros shade in the child timeline and the howling stones in TP that play songs from OoT are kinda like a memorial thing to him and that’s why they summon him when wolf link howls the same songs played on the Ocarina
4:55 I was in rothenburg just a month ago
i did not play any recent zelda games... but i know that... there is a blue ocarina in "link to the past"... and a golden harp in "wind waker"...
but in the first "legend of zelda"... the magical flute... is that the one belonging to skullkid, the one he used to play with link in ocarina of time??? (in twilight princess, skullkid instrument looks far more like "deku-link" trumpet from majoras mask)
So annoying when Ganondorf hacks my stuff, he’s such a troll
Dude I’m convinced Rauru is SS Link & Zelda’s son, maybe grandson.
I believe the orcarina of time is what powers terrico (I probably spelled his name wrong). that's why he is able to travel through time and why he sounds like R2-D2 lol.
I believe it could potentially still be around. It also appears in alttp and also links awakening, so it could totally be in the botw sequal.
7:12 Link placed the Spiritual Stones before opening the Door of time. Not the other way around.
Just an observation that doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things but: it's interesting the split timelines are shaped like a ruppee, when connected.
'Hackers like Ganondorf' I lol'd XD
Have you heard of breath of the wild? Ganon might be one of the most successful hackers in all of fiction!
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat You're not wrong :)
omg!!! someone who talk about the zelda dragonbrake theory!!!!
Looks like a blue RUPEE... not too shabby!
If it even still exists in ANY of the timelines after the OOT-MJ period, it's probably in some box in a hole in the ground, located where one of the many Hyrule Castles used to exist. And if the royal family took it with them every time they built a new castle, it's likely in some old royal vault, sitting in a box in the corner, gathering dust , maybe cracked/broken maybe not, like some old, half forgotten family heirloom or nickk-nack. Like an old China cabinet sitting in a self storage somewhere. and i don't buy a "convergent" timeline. Yes BOTW could take place in any of them. Personally, i think it's in the Majora/Twilight Princess far future.
On the subject of the Goddess Harm, The Goddess Harps look similar to the Harp of Ages from Legend of Zelda - Oracle of Ages.
The flute boy in link to the past his flute looks exactly like the ocarina of time.
Well.....I can imagine there being an item for each Triforce but would they be weapons or would they be instruments?
Weapons
Power: Trident (true form possebly the sword of Demise)
Wisedom: Light Arrows and Bow
Courage: Master Sword
Instruments
Power: Possebly the Organ?
(Would explain why he wouldn't just carry it around with him and it has a lot of power and volume behind its sound)
Wisedom: Godesse's Harp
(needs a lot of te hnique to be able to play it)
Courage: Ocarina of Time
(uplifting, anyone can pick it up and become a master at it eith little effort if they only they have the courage to do so and uses breath to create its sound wich is the acording to multiple mythologies the essesnce of life wich courage could also stand for being that in order to go through life you need to surpass multiple obstacles wich require courage.....I know it's a long stretch but I find it quite a nice story to tell)
My favourite Zelda instrument is The Goddess Harp because Link has no idea how to play it
I kind of wonder if the Master Sword also has connections to the Time Shift Stones. We never learn much about the metal the Goddess cubes, chests, and crests are made of but the Goddess Sword could also be made of the same material. What if the metal is ultra refined Time Shift Stones? The Gates of Time look to be made of Goddess metal and they are explicitly made of Time Shift Stone.
A lot of things would kind of fall into place if Goddess metal is Time Shift Metal. We also know that Time Shift Stones can power things and that could connect them to the blue Ancient Energy used by the Shiekah in BotW.
It seems like the whole explanation of the series is bending towards the idea of time still being a significant part of the story. I still subscribe to the idea that Hylia is the Goddess of Time and that still seems to fit the direction the series is heading.
Personally I think the ocarina is still around in a forgot tomb waiting to be used one last time.
Son of a wiiittcchh!! I just realized OoT had a harp just like Skyward Sword did. It all makes sense now. Gosh, I feel extremely stooopid now.
I think you can you could make an argument that the OoT is the Downfall Timeline as well. If I recall corectly, there was a 'flute' in A Link to the Past and an ocarina in Links Awakening.
In addition: there might be a connntion between the Goddess's Harp and the Harp of Ages from Oracle of Ages.
Shiek's harp in OoT
is the Goddess's Harp
That add was smooth as f
When they make the final game with the final Ganon battle they need to make more games in the timeline before Breath, but after Skyward to make it make more sense, maybe eliminate or illuminate ones like Four Swords in the child timeline which just seems lazily placed there.
Considering Botw is the amalgamation of all timelines, something may have happened that made it end up in the same place in all three timelines. So I'm betting either it's kept as a Hyrule family heirloom and hidden or destroyed.
I want to say that the Ocarina of Time is missing because we have seen that the Master Sword can’t even scratch the Timeshift Stones in Skyward Sword. The most the Master Sword does is trigger the Timeshift Stones to restore various mechanisms in the general vicinity of them within a certain radius of a circular room. The Ocarina of Time seems to be made of the same material and its range it probably a lot farther because it is designed to function based on certain sound waves the flute can make.
1. it's not a huge story-breaking theory, but I think that AOC is canon, and it will be brought up, maybe on side missions. tok will take place a small while after botwBOTW, and long story short, all the races are in contact to rebuild Hyrule, etc., etc. and the new champions will have shared the events of aoc. 2. my theory with regards to where botw is on the timeline is that the goddesses merged the three timelines due to some event, as they found that flooding didn't work. (also, I agree with the theory that tp is a few generations down the line from oot, and he is a descendant of Link and Malon, which is why he knows Epona's song.)
NGL, I loved the video but my brain kinda caught onto the idea you mentioned of dragon breaks from elder scrolls and it made me realize that Nintendo could totally use the same concept and explain away the timeline split as a dragon break, or whatever they decide to call it, that happened during OoT and ended at an unspecified time in BotW's past thus ending the Era of Myth.
Nintendo should just make Hyrule Warriors (2014) Canon and let that be how the timeline unifies. Game theory did a video on it.
Hmm that timeline reconnection made it strangely resemble a rupee, maybe there was some thought behind that idea
It’s just my head cannon but I think Hyrule Warriors is the event that brings the timelines together (they had to have combined at some point because of stuff like the Rito and Zora existing at the same time)
Anyone else ever wonder why Ganondorf didn't just pile up a bunch of bombs beside the back walls of the Temple of Time and blow a hole right into the Master Swords chamber/Sacred Realm?
You mean BESIDES the fact that he was trying to be sneaky? Probably some divine protection or something. Assuming that the Door of Time was the only obstacle anyway.
Honestly, Ganondorf could have gotten all four of the keys and he likely still wouldn't have been able to get the Triforce on his own.
Considering the possibility of some sort of time travel in BOTW 2, it would be simply amazing if the ocarina appeared in BOTW 2. Highly unlikely, but a cool thought nonetheless. I agree with you on the theory for this though. Something could happen.