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- Solid State Zinc Bromine Battery is not really a solid state battery type,... is a little clickbait (so sorry for this). But anyway looks also not so bad with that plaster of paris which have good electrolyte absorption.
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wow cool video man thanks for sharing! Look forward to the next one! Cant wait to see what you come up with next! Hope it's some solid state gel :-)
very nice!
Your work is beautiful. Do these questions corrode metal, and how do we make them, please and thank you
Does anyone have a thought or experience in an oasis separator vs something like this porous plaster.....as long as it's a separator and not taking up significant volume for the electrolyte (battery energy) then we need to test for best cycle life...
Maybe plaster of paris can be used in aliovalent substitution or isovalent substitution? Maybe mixed with a magnesium compound like sorell cement or variation !
how many times can you charge this battery?
So i wonder about the side reactions. CaSO4. 1/2 H2O. Calcium sulphate with half a molecule of water per molecule of the salt (hemi-hydrate) is called plaster of paris . Also called Gypsum plaster
. The natural form of this compound is the mineral bassanite
Very wery niceee :)))
Cayrex2 .. I am having a problem .. I have tried to make battery 3 times and two with activated carbon and one with manganese dioxide .. Used potassium hydroxide as well as sodium sulphate electrolytes and charged on 2.6v (at 3 volt electrolyte start burning) but all the time after charging voltage suddenly start dropping and battery don't have power to test on EBDtester ... Can anyone rectify what I am missing 😔
It is clearly not, as you said, solid state BUT I think it's a very good idea because the "problem" of this battery consist in the fact that has to work with gravity to bring the bromine to the bottom of the cell. With this configuration a diffusion migration for capillarity through the pores of the plaster actually should take over the "problem" and make it independent from the orientation!
Correct! About solid state I already say in the video that is not a solid state and in description I wrote that the title is clickbait.
@@cayrex yes, don't be ashamed to click bait a bit, it's fair enough!!:)
Anyway the real point it's on the upgrade you did on Robert Murray's setup!😉
@@Giarko yea 💪😄
Please get equipment to measure both charge/discharge curves, we would learn SO much more.
Nice can you substitute the black carbon with graphite powder I was thinking of using something similar to that with black iron oxide and iron filings do you think that would make a good battery don't know what the acid would do with the plaster of Paris
yes you can,... the point is to make a little more conductive with some non metal material. Yes iron based battery can be really good. I dont think that you will damage the plaster of paris so easy 🤔
@@cayrex thank you for your opinion I think I'm going to get some plaster of Paris and try
Nice! I'll have to build one of these and see how it goes with lots of cycles and zinc dendrites.
Add a little sugar water mix ontop of cathode. Apparently it does wonders so some universities claim ! 🤷♂️
Plaster of paris separator will do good job against dendrites.
@@Buzzhumma That sounds interesting. Is the info in a paper somewhere?
@@cayrex I hope so. I'll post back on what happens and how the cell goes...
@@etherlon2766 search for Secret to dendrite-free lithium-ion batteries lies in a sugar cube
Could this technique also be used to make a zinc iodide battery?
In basic this technique can be used in many battery types.
What voltage and short current could you acheive? Also some salts are hydroscopic and as a small addition may help the cell remain moist!
Voltage is 1.8V and current around 400mA
@@cayrex No kidding? Out of what you made on the 'tube. That's bloody well awesome. Very nicely done and, I agree... gravity is no longer important. This is just one throw away from being a "gel cell" but I like this a whole lot. Thank you for taking the time to post this. Heh... and I love your "mold".
Hi, may I know what kind of charger did you use to charge the battery? Thanks!
Hey! www.conrad.si/p/laboratorijski-napajalnik-nastavljiv-basetech-bt-305-0-30-vdc-0-5-a-150-w-st-izhodov-1-x-513812
have you considered using fired clay in place of the plaster? (since plaster is very soft and breakable) or look into what is known as hydrocal or ultracal two plaster based compounds that have a VERY high compression strength making it even tougher than concrete as well as being hydraulic white gypsum cements and all it is, is cement (the binder and solidifier in concrete, minus any sand or gravel ect fillers) and plaster of paris mixed at a ratio of 5 or 10% cement to the balance of 95-90% plaster of paris, but increases the PSI rating from the 30 or 50 PSI to like 15,000 to 30,000 PSI like WOW!
***the cement has an alkali compound apparently that is not calcium like the plaster, so that would have to be taken into account, here since it might effect the chemical reaction of the battery positively or negatively in some aspects, so note that, maybe useful, maybe detrimental needing a chemistry change to avoid and take advantage of this minute added compound, thus why my first suggestion is a neutral permeable vitrified glass and sapphire amalgam that is ceramic clay, even though it takes some heat to fire it up, Terracotta clay fires at a lower temp and if you are using iron as part of the system I think it might be able to be accounted for since that is what gives it it's reddish orange color, as well as the lower firing temperature so that a simple fire's coals from hardwood like oak or something is hot enough to fire it, no fans for additional air to raise the temp ect,
once the firing is done then filling the other compounds and letting it pseudo dry, (or using some other liquid that is not water so it will not interfere with it acting as a solid state, could maybe be used who knows, just have to give it a go lol) anyway to retain that minute amount of moisture a simple wax coating should suffice, something I have looked into for sealing in bricks fired up this way, for shingles and roof, as well as a more liquid based brick/battery that has the durability to last many years before even being a weaker battery
Question, does the negative electrode has to be zinc? How about both graphite?
Yes. You ca use graphite on both sides.
Hi, can you make AlCl3-Urea ionic liquid battery?
Yes, I try it. But I dont get good result with solution.
@@cayrex I found the video, actually I ctrl-f searched for "urea" in short for alcl3-urea battery in your channel. _"Homemade aluminium super battery part 1",_ right? Hey that battery seems to be giving good results which you made, ~1.4v and ~1A for its size..? What do you say
Can i use charcoal powder instead of another carbon powder
Yes
Solid state?...really?...what make it solid and easy transfer the electron?
Read the description
You really didn't go into the depth of highlighting the use of a complexing agent for this type of battery without which its safety is compromised!
Not really, yes. If people make Zn-Br battery then they know some basics about the battery and the problems of Br2, etc,... if not dont make it! Repeating about complexing agent over and over in all Zn Br videos is also so so. Then, some complexing agents are also harder to get for the most of the people. You can make Zn Br cell with all supporting chemicals for all the problems that have Zn Br battery (then you can use or for static cell you need to use complexing agents like MPM-Br, 1-ethyl-2-methyl-pyridinium bromide (BCA), Methyl Ethyl Morpholinium Bromide, Methyl Ethyl Pyrrolidinium Bromide, tetrapropylammonium bromide, etc) ,.... or you work on cell construction design which you solve some of the problems with construction.