It’ll stay in second without pulling it down to low unless you have some strange modification done to the transmission. You risk it actually downshifting back to low by doing that.
No it's a Cruiseomatic. That's how you hold them in second by pulling it back to low after it has shifted to second, but you have to keep your speed and rpms up because they will shift back to low if your speed gets too slow. The normal automatic driving range is the green dot, which you would normally think of as second gear, but it's not. It's 1-2-3 auto. Drive three the white dot, which would be the normal driving range on other automatics is only second and third gear, it starts in second and will shift to third, but will not start out in or go into 1st gear. It's for slippery conditions, it's easier to keep the tires from spinning on mud or snow by starting in a higher gear.
No it wont. It is going to shift to third when it hits a proper rpm depending on the vacuum signal it gets. That second green dot position is 1-2-D. There is no actual 2 only position on that model. Yes it can go back to first by itself, but for hard or relatively hard acceleration it will not go back to first unless you decel a lot. I have had several cars with that old AT valve body and we could hot rod them that way, but we preferred to swap the later valve body to get true 1-2-D. This video is how to hold 2nd without an actual 2 position (assuming you don't go back to say 20 mph or less). I have been rebuilding AT's and plenty of Fords for 50 years
I love the C4 but I switched to a TCI Street Fighter C4 with the later 67-69 valve body in my 66 Mustang because it's a true 1-2-3 forward full manual/automatic shift pattern. Also the B&M Pro Stick makes it easier. I do miss the classic green dot old T style handle sometimes though.
so through, 1966, the "cruise-o-matic" had 2 ways to run it. SMALL GREEN DOT started in 2nd gear, so for most daily driving it was a 2 speed. The LARGE GREEN DOT started in 1st, so 1,2,3. The L is low. (AKA 1st gear) If you simply use the large green dot, it's just like starting in L. Further, you can predict the shift throttle position. If you put your foot in it and are accelerating, it will shift at a higher RPM When you relax your foot and the RPM is high enough, it will shift.
Okay, now I know how it works. My father had a 65 GT mustang back in 1968 and when I was a teenager he told me that he could drive it like a manual. He told me a story about how he loss control of the his mustang in the rain because he down shifted into 2nd gear showing off to a friend.
She's got her thumb on the lockout which is a mistake, that's the only thing keeping you out of reverse or park. Just push it forward and stay off the button.
If the RPM's are too high it wont down shift automatically...but if you are on the border and it down shifts, you can do some damage as the motor goes into higher RPM and lose control as the motor goes high, rear tires can break loose, depending on the amount of torque you have at that RPM range. If you want to shift gears put a shift kit in the car and start in low, and rack it to the next gear when you get to the RPM range you want. With a shift kit in my 67 with the 2.83 gears out back, I can get to 56 MPH in 1st, shift to second chirps the rear tires, and at 86 MPH you shift to 3rd and sometimes it will chirp those rear tires as it goes to 3rd. Although chirping tires can be a control issue if you don't know the car or what you're doing. It sounds good when the tires chirp, but again unless you are familiar with the car you shouldn't do it.
Yeah, no. It's a Cruiseomatic. If you put it in low, rev it up and then shift it to second gear, the green dot, which is like second gear on normal three speed automatic, then pull it back to low it will hold second from automatically shifting to third until you want to shift to third move it back up to the green dot. So drive the white dot where most auto trans are 1-2-3 is only 2 & 3 gears in a Cruiseomatic and where second is on most automatics is the normal drive range 1-2-3 the green dot on a Cruiseomatic. P R N D2 D1 1 D2 white dot gears 2&3, D1 green dot, gears 1 2 3 . D2 is for slippery conditions, it's easier to keep the tires from spinning on slippery surfaces by starting out in a higher gear.
Hold 1st then jump into second let it build up bring it back down to low and you will hold second then back up to drive and you are in 3rd C4 transmission
After 67 they changed the shift pattern to PRND21 with 2nd still being manual. This is an early dual range C4 with a shift pattern PRN2D1. On yours start in 1st shift up to 2nd, then up for 3rd. No need to bring back to 1st since 2nd is manual.
@@gearbanger57 nope it's a cruiseomatic, P R N D2 D1 1 D-2 is the white dot, you only get 2nd & 3rd gears, it will not start out in or go to 1st gear. D1 is the green dot 1-2-3 the normal driving range with all three gears. 1 is low gear. But if after allowing it to shift into second gear and if the rpms & speed are high enough you can pull it back into 1 and that will hold it in 2nd and keep it from automatically shifting to 3rd until you want it to go to 3rd, then shift it back to the green or white dot for third. Weird huh? But they work well once you get used to them. D2 is for starting out in second gear for slippery conditions then automatically shifting to 3rd. It's easier to keep the tires from spinning by starting in a higher gear.
@@Djl58 so the older C-4's and FMX's had the Cruise O Matic shift patterns. I don't remember the C-6's having it, I may be wrong but I don't think so. An interesting thing about the Ford three speed automatic transmission shift patterns that were NOT Cruiseomatics, but had the conventional shift pattern, was that Drive was the only automatic range in them. In manual second gear they would start out in second gear and stay in second gear, second gear and only second gear. No starting out in low gear, no automatic shifting at all. The same as low gear, low gear and only low gear.
It’ll stay in second without pulling it down to low unless you have some strange modification done to the transmission. You risk it actually downshifting back to low by doing that.
No it's a Cruiseomatic. That's how you hold them in second by pulling it back to low after it has shifted to second, but you have to keep your speed and rpms up because they will shift back to low if your speed gets too slow. The normal automatic driving range is the green dot, which you would normally think of as second gear, but it's not. It's 1-2-3 auto. Drive three the white dot, which would be the normal driving range on other automatics is only second and third gear, it starts in second and will shift to third, but will not start out in or go into 1st gear. It's for slippery conditions, it's easier to keep the tires from spinning on mud or snow by starting in a higher gear.
@@oneninerniner3427that’s literally what he said it shift back down just with out all of what you said 🤦🏿♂️💯😆😆😆☠️🤷🏿♂️
I have a 67 fairlane with cruisomatic c4 and mine is 1 2 D
The way you shifted is exactly how you shift transmissions that have 1 or L, D , OD
No it wont. It is going to shift to third when it hits a proper rpm depending on the vacuum signal it gets. That second green dot position is 1-2-D. There is no actual 2 only position on that model. Yes it can go back to first by itself, but for hard or relatively hard acceleration it will not go back to first unless you decel a lot. I have had several cars with that old AT valve body and we could hot rod them that way, but we preferred to swap the later valve body to get true 1-2-D. This video is how to hold 2nd without an actual 2 position (assuming you don't go back to say 20 mph or less). I have been rebuilding AT's and plenty of Fords for 50 years
@@94racing88 Right, the same way you can hold 2nd on one of the older ford OD AT's.
Old cars are so fun to drive. More manual and more mechanical. So fun.
Yeah , until it breaks down again! Old cars are well , just old and crapboxes...
I have a 66 Fairlane GTA with C6 green dot and that's the way it works..good old cruiseomatic
I had a 65 fastback in 74 with a rebuilt C4 I used to do that all the time I think there was a stage 2 shift kit in it but I don't remember
I had a 73 Pinto Wagon with a 289 stuffed into it. I had this same setup. Destroyed a 69 El Camino with a 409. Good times.
I love the C4 but I switched to a TCI Street Fighter C4 with the later 67-69 valve body in my 66 Mustang because it's a true 1-2-3 forward full manual/automatic shift pattern. Also the B&M Pro Stick makes it easier. I do miss the classic green dot old T style handle sometimes though.
so through, 1966, the "cruise-o-matic" had 2 ways to run it. SMALL GREEN DOT started in 2nd gear, so for most daily driving it was a 2 speed. The LARGE GREEN DOT started in 1st, so 1,2,3. The L is low. (AKA 1st gear) If you simply use the large green dot, it's just like starting in L. Further, you can predict the shift throttle position. If you put your foot in it and are accelerating, it will shift at a higher RPM When you relax your foot and the RPM is high enough, it will shift.
Okay, now I know how it works. My father had a 65 GT mustang back in 1968 and when I was a teenager he told me that he could drive it like a manual. He told me a story about how he loss control of the his mustang in the rain because he down shifted into 2nd gear showing off to a friend.
Back when cars didn't have so much bull sht to distract from just driving.. the smile says it all..have fun kids!!
I had a ‘67 GT500 fastback. Had to use my clutch. Sometimes 😂🎉
She's got her thumb on the lockout which is a mistake, that's the only thing keeping you out of reverse or park. Just push it forward and stay off the button.
That thing looked awfully sloppy also. It looked like she went clear to N when she moved the lever. Needs some work.
exactly- that's how it has to be 😀
Why are you shifting manuell?
Do not push the button in, you might slip through into reverse
Ok when I bring it back to L it down shift bro doesn't seem right
Build up the rpm’s don’t down shift all quick
If the RPM's are too high it wont down shift automatically...but if you are on the border and it down shifts, you can do some damage as the motor goes into higher RPM and lose control as the motor goes high, rear tires can break loose, depending on the amount of torque you have at that RPM range. If you want to shift gears put a shift kit in the car and start in low, and rack it to the next gear when you get to the RPM range you want. With a shift kit in my 67 with the 2.83 gears out back, I can get to 56 MPH in 1st, shift to second chirps the rear tires, and at 86 MPH you shift to 3rd and sometimes it will chirp those rear tires as it goes to 3rd. Although chirping tires can be a control issue if you don't know the car or what you're doing. It sounds good when the tires chirp, but again unless you are familiar with the car you shouldn't do it.
Yeah, no. It's a Cruiseomatic. If you put it in low, rev it up and then shift it to second gear, the green dot, which is like second gear on normal three speed automatic, then pull it back to low it will hold second from automatically shifting to third until you want to shift to third move it back up to the green dot.
So drive the white dot where most auto trans are 1-2-3 is only 2 & 3 gears in a Cruiseomatic and where second is on most automatics is the normal drive range 1-2-3 the green dot on a Cruiseomatic. P R N D2 D1 1 D2 white dot gears 2&3, D1 green dot, gears 1 2 3 . D2 is for slippery conditions, it's easier to keep the tires from spinning on slippery surfaces by starting out in a higher gear.
I just got a 1971 torino 500 cant seem get it to shift into 3 is the shit pattern the same for both? Down(1st) up(2nd) then back down(3rd)?
Hold 1st then jump into second let it build up bring it back down to low and you will hold second then back up to drive and you are in 3rd C4 transmission
After 67 they changed the shift pattern to PRND21 with 2nd still being manual. This is an early dual range C4 with a shift pattern PRN2D1. On yours start in 1st shift up to 2nd, then up for 3rd. No need to bring back to 1st since 2nd is manual.
@@gearbanger57 nope it's a cruiseomatic, P R N D2 D1 1 D-2 is the white dot, you only get 2nd & 3rd gears, it will not start out in or go to 1st gear. D1 is the green dot 1-2-3 the normal driving range with all three gears. 1 is low gear. But if after allowing it to shift into second gear and if the rpms & speed are high enough you can pull it back into 1 and that will hold it in 2nd and keep it from automatically shifting to 3rd until you want it to go to 3rd, then shift it back to the green or white dot for third. Weird huh? But they work well once you get used to them. D2 is for starting out in second gear for slippery conditions then automatically shifting to 3rd. It's easier to keep the tires from spinning by starting in a higher gear.
@@oneninerniner3427 That's basically what I said in a different way. Either way it was a screwy shift pattern that was finally improved in 67.
@@Djl58 so the older C-4's and FMX's had the Cruise O Matic shift patterns. I don't remember the C-6's having it, I may be wrong but I don't think so.
An interesting thing about the Ford three speed automatic transmission shift patterns that were NOT Cruiseomatics, but had the conventional shift pattern, was that Drive was the only automatic range in them. In manual second gear they would start out in second gear and stay in second gear, second gear and only second gear. No starting out in low gear, no automatic shifting at all. The same as low gear, low gear and only low gear.
Good thing she didn’t put it in “R” for race……….
You’d put it in R before she does buddy this girl works on her own 70s Nova ..
It’s an automatic, it shifts “ automatically “🤦♂️
Only thing you are showing her is how to tear a transmission out😂😂😂😂😂😂
This transmission is designed to do this do some research then come back and talk ..✌🏼
@@kev_analogthe same is possible on C4 1969? Thanks!
So you've never raced with an automatic at a drag strip I take it.
Yes it's different, it's a Cruiseomatic. The normal drive range is like where second gear would normally be, called the green dot. @@kev_analog
It isn't going to hurt anything. This is for if you want to hold 2nd or for hard acceleration when you want to control the 2-3 shift point.
This not how you use an automatic! Pure ignorance
I'd recommend you not turn the key in a car as by your thinking it is not how to use a car