If you want to reduce the stress on the loop of the webbing, bring it to the side (instead of the middle of the tree) where the webbing runs through the loop as directly as possible. If the tree is not too thick, go around the tree twice to give the webbing more friction and keep the loop at the side you want to have it. (The middle of the tree, as you suggest, is not bad at all: like this you'll have the same tension on every part of the webbing, however no reduction of stress on the loop.)
Nice...great tip. That certainly makes perfect sense. I guess I never really thought about it. I'll try that for sure the next time I set up. Thanks for the great comment!
The Velcro doesn’t go all along the complete sides??? With wind this goes inside for sure and makes it flattering around or not? Does this hammock has a space for an isolation sleeping pad or you’d need an underquilt?
Great review Sir.I have the DD Travel Hammock & DD 4x4m Tarp - both in Coyote colour. I also use the DD 'Snakeskin' method to store Hammock.There are modifications for all these products obviously but in themselves they are good design & quality, my opinion.
What are your thoughts on the DD Travel and Frontline vs. the Jungle? Wouldn't a Travel with an overhanging tarp do the trick just as well and provide raincover on ground level in addition? That way you could have your bag underneath the hammock and out of the rain. It seems like the Jungle will lead water around it and straight down on the ground with wet feet as a result next morning. Have you tried both hammocks? Thanks.
are those DD snake skins? I have my DD camping hammock in hennesy skins and they're just too tight....stuffing is not even possible. at that point. i wish there were a way to modify the camping hammock into the jungle set up. I like how the layers zip on the camping hammock rather than velcro.
I didn't realize the Camping hammock used zippers versus velcro. The velcro aspect of the jungle hammock sucks. But I use both the DD hammock skins as well as hennessy skins. I use the hennessy for my tarp and the dd for my hammock.
yep! I used the camping hammock in Japan and it was nice to be able to zip myself up inside the two layers for added warmth. It could probably be modified with whoopie rather than the straps it comes with. thanks for your reply!
rods meant to go slightly inwards to allow tarp sit properly and no need for extras on tarps loops .but i have struglled myself a bit until i have finally opened manuals :D:D have you tried that as bivi yet?
I use both the built in tarp as well as the superlight 10x10 in combination...when we get weather, it is pretty significant and I don't take chances...it's worth the extra pound to ensure I am dry and safe!
Looks like a great setup, I'm kind of liking those poles to hold apart the netting. That's also a nice spot for a little camp, it looks pretty private. You visit the spot often?
That hammock is superb...I love it...and it's my go-to shelter system. That spot is nice, but unfortunately not very private...it's on the outskirts of a state forest and TONS of people mountain bike there...but otherwise it's a gorgeous set of woods.
great review. Is this system still available? I'm unable to find it with the rain tarp. Where can I get this complete package? I am part of search and rescue team and this looks to be the perfect system for my needs.
To my knowledge the system is still available. I bought the tarp and hammock setup separate...not sure they sell it as a package. But I do recommend it. It's a touch on the delicate side, but so is all lightweight technical equipment for the most part. I still use it to this day and will have it out in the mountains in two weeks!
Hi, I just had the DD Hammock superlight jungle. What backpack do you use to transport it? along with its accessories. Which one would you advise me? A cordial greeting from Spain.
I have a bunch of backpacks. It depends on the trip, the terrain, and what our plans are. What do you anticipate for typical use? I have the Osprey Atmos 65 for longer trips, or even 40 liter packs if I don't need a lot of gear.
Rain rolls over the edge and drips down...it's a double thick and water resistant underside to the hammock. I usually use the tarp over the top regardless.
Hey there, thanks a lot for your details. Got my DD Jungle today. One plastic fastener of the stuffsack broke instantly after packing all up again. Will ditch the stuffsack as its too small for the hammok + snakeskin + eno underquilt and put it into a drysack. So yeah.. the fasteners and the velcro is a pain in the butt. But overall a great system. Can you tell me which brand is your cloudy camo jacket and where I can find it? Looks sweet! Best regards AJ
There are a couple things that are a pain with the DD Jungle hammock, but overall is a WONDERFUL system. It kept me safe in -15 Deg Farenheit two winters ago. And has been comfortable for almost 4 years now with no major damage...silly minor things. The shirt is by Propper...it's the "Combat Shirt" in ATACS AU. There are a few colors, but mine is ATACS which I greatly like. Hope that helps!!
Hi how do you think this hold up in a decent amount of wind/rain without the 'super light tarp' that you mentioned? The rain cover doesn't seem to have much hang over the edge of the inner hammock. I'm trying to work out how suitable it would be for monsoon weather in Asia. Thanks.
my opinion is that it would be good up to a steady rain, or heavy rain without driving wind. the velcro is kind of weak to be honest...it's not the best enclosure method, especially for wind. be careful in the wind with a hammock, especially with blowing trees, it can stretch or snap your system. I've been in serious wind and rain, but definitely needed the tarp to supplement.
i really want to buy this hammock, i already have a fair bit of dd gear, i have a camping hammock and a frontline hammock and they are both in snake skins,
Hey new subscriber here. I have this on the way any day now. How water proof is the small tarp? Let's say you forgot your 3x3. Will you stay dry in torrential rain ?
Welcome aboard and thanks for the support! Glad you dropped a line! This is by far my most used and favorite shelter system. I bought all the Superlight version of both the hammock system as well as the tarp. My tarp is the 3x3. I used it in horrendous conditions and it kept me safe, dry, and warm(ish) for the given conditions. Over time it will stretch and sag, but you can keep on it with proper tension. Also, I had to eventually water proof it again. I have very very very many of my videos that feature this system as a whole. If you're interersted, let me know and I'll put together a little playlist for you to see my videos featuring this equipment. You will absolutely love it...just treat it carefully as it's expensive and light weight.
Actually here's the playlist...I made it real quick. I'm heading into the mountains tomorrow for a couple days...this will give you some stuff to watch...haha! Oh, and the Superlight Tarp is my tarp for this trip as well! Thanks again! th-cam.com/play/PLXR0rdH8xgW2gykXkXEXHb5Ab7DP7fcmG.html
here is from me some add....when i got my DD Jungle hammock i made at home more easy setup option which if you think when you setup it if you don't put mosquito net and rain cover what can be happen? 1-if no rain it is ok but can be mosquito in side till you full setup it..2-if it is rain if no rain cover on until you put rain cover on inside can get wet.. so i was thinking all.. i put on floor at my place, add mosquito net..than i put rain cover on..rolled in from both sides and sliced into the sleeve... when i go backpacking i will hang to between trees, slice out hammock..and it is ready to put poles and tight...but from that point you can say how about other items can get wet...how about changing clothes for sleep..for all you need another item which is tarp comes...you need large size tarp on top so you can change your clothes under the tarp without getting wet..because you can not do in hammock..not easy
@@RuairiMcNicholasIE hello, since your last comment I've contacted dd hammocks and the guy there told me this, Thank you for your email. I'm afraid that the canopy for the SuperLight Jungle Hammock is not compatible with the XL Frontline. I actually tested this myself as these hammocks use the same hammock poles, and I thought it might work. It seems however that with the extra material/width the XL Frontline causes the poles to rest at a different position than the Jungle Hammock, and that canopy doesn't quite make it over the top and sides in the same way. If there is anything else we can help with please let me know. thought this could save you a little room in your pack lol, but as you more than lightly know, some times these things can be made to work, so your are welcome to try for yourself, regards.
@@fighting3209 Hey mate! Didn't end up bringing the XL Frontline with me but should be bringing it this weekend and will give it a go if I remember to! But I do know the canopy is a perfect fit to the Jungle hammock and uses velcro to attach so probably tricky to get over it. One of their smaller separate tarps might work though...
I'm not familiar with Flying Tent. I took a look at it, and it does look nice. Seems like both have pro's and con's. The Flying Tent looks quite pricey, but the DD isn't cheap either. I can highly recommend the DD, but I'll do some more research into the Flying Tent to see what else I can learn. Thanks for writing!
I should say .i lost everything in a short space .. so got my outdoor gear and took off . Scotland .in a hammock in the uk you are not actually classed as camping .. so you cant be moved on .. according to a couple of park wardens i met along my travels .. so good to know if your in the uk where even being free isnt free 😁
It is separate. There are a few companies that make them, but I found the best fit is the DD Hammock specific. It's definitely helpful, and really important to protect your hammock.
This system comes with lightweight straps. I do try to use the factory straps as they are my lightest that I own currently. The whoopie sling system on the hammock allows for infinite adjustment and works very well.
It's really good actually. I have used mine for more than 4 years now and still going strong. I do double up with a tarp generally if I expect heavy weather and especially snow.
If you want to reduce the stress on the loop of the webbing, bring it to the side (instead of the middle of the tree) where the webbing runs through the loop as directly as possible. If the tree is not too thick, go around the tree twice to give the webbing more friction and keep the loop at the side you want to have it. (The middle of the tree, as you suggest, is not bad at all: like this you'll have the same tension on every part of the webbing, however no reduction of stress on the loop.)
Nice...great tip. That certainly makes perfect sense. I guess I never really thought about it. I'll try that for sure the next time I set up. Thanks for the great comment!
Instead of extra velcro to keep the tarp on try small coin magnets. They are easy to adjust to get the best results. They are light and non-permanent.
the bead on the woopi is to stop the woopi from being undone , if the bead wasnt there you could pull the loop out
One of my beads must have cracked off at some point...was looking at it the other day and it was no longer there...gotta be careful I guess!
Damn you, I was going to type that haha
The Velcro doesn’t go all along the complete sides??? With wind this goes inside for sure and makes it flattering around or not?
Does this hammock has a space for an isolation sleeping pad or you’d need an underquilt?
you should get just regular treehuggers for the whoopie slings instead eno straps. would save alot of weight.
interesting you say that. I recently realized that was a big opportunity for me to save some weight...and space. good thoughts, thanks!
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Thanks for joining! Glad to have you aboard!
Great review Sir.I have the DD Travel Hammock & DD 4x4m Tarp - both in Coyote colour. I also use the DD 'Snakeskin' method to store Hammock.There are modifications for all these products obviously but in themselves they are good design & quality, my opinion.
I love DD products. I think they do a great job and strike a balance between features, price, and weight. Overall right in a sweet spot!
Does the fly work in the ground bivy configuration? I never see anyone aet it up on geound woth fly
What are your thoughts on the DD Travel and Frontline vs. the Jungle? Wouldn't a Travel with an overhanging tarp do the trick just as well and provide raincover on ground level in addition? That way you could have your bag underneath the hammock and out of the rain. It seems like the Jungle will lead water around it and straight down on the ground with wet feet as a result next morning. Have you tried both hammocks? Thanks.
Great instructional video. Just got this as a gift. Liked the extra little tips. Thanks!
Any links to the straps and snake skins you use?
That's a solid gift! You'll like it great hammock.
The straps and skins are DD Hammock
are those DD snake skins? I have my DD camping hammock in hennesy skins and they're just too tight....stuffing is not even possible. at that point. i wish there were a way to modify the camping hammock into the jungle set up. I like how the layers zip on the camping hammock rather than velcro.
I didn't realize the Camping hammock used zippers versus velcro. The velcro aspect of the jungle hammock sucks. But I use both the DD hammock skins as well as hennessy skins. I use the hennessy for my tarp and the dd for my hammock.
yep! I used the camping hammock in Japan and it was nice to be able to zip myself up inside the two layers for added warmth. It could probably be modified with whoopie rather than the straps it comes with.
thanks for your reply!
rods meant to go slightly inwards to allow tarp sit properly and no need for extras on tarps loops .but i have struglled myself a bit until i have finally opened manuals :D:D have you tried that as bivi yet?
I have wanted to use this as a bivy...but have not yet! And I say yet...it's been like 4 years, but this still performs wonderfully for me!
outer limitless i thinking of changing built in tarp to lightweight dd one , whats your thoughts? Thanks for replay !
I use both the built in tarp as well as the superlight 10x10 in combination...when we get weather, it is pretty significant and I don't take chances...it's worth the extra pound to ensure I am dry and safe!
Looks like a great setup, I'm kind of liking those poles to hold apart the netting.
That's also a nice spot for a little camp, it looks pretty private. You visit the spot often?
That hammock is superb...I love it...and it's my go-to shelter system. That spot is nice, but unfortunately not very private...it's on the outskirts of a state forest and TONS of people mountain bike there...but otherwise it's a gorgeous set of woods.
great review. Is this system still available? I'm unable to find it with the rain tarp. Where can I get this complete package? I am part of search and rescue team and this looks to be the perfect system for my needs.
To my knowledge the system is still available. I bought the tarp and hammock setup separate...not sure they sell it as a package. But I do recommend it. It's a touch on the delicate side, but so is all lightweight technical equipment for the most part. I still use it to this day and will have it out in the mountains in two weeks!
Hi, I just had the DD Hammock superlight jungle. What backpack do you use to transport it? along with its accessories. Which one would you advise me? A cordial greeting from Spain.
I have a bunch of backpacks. It depends on the trip, the terrain, and what our plans are. What do you anticipate for typical use? I have the Osprey Atmos 65 for longer trips, or even 40 liter packs if I don't need a lot of gear.
When strapping the tarp with the velcro and it rains, doesnt the water just slide alongside the hammock?
Rain rolls over the edge and drips down...it's a double thick and water resistant underside to the hammock. I usually use the tarp over the top regardless.
Hey there, thanks a lot for your details. Got my DD Jungle today. One plastic fastener of the stuffsack broke instantly after packing all up again. Will ditch the stuffsack as its too small for the hammok + snakeskin + eno underquilt and put it into a drysack. So yeah.. the fasteners and the velcro is a pain in the butt. But overall a great system. Can you tell me which brand is your cloudy camo jacket and where I can find it? Looks sweet! Best regards AJ
There are a couple things that are a pain with the DD Jungle hammock, but overall is a WONDERFUL system. It kept me safe in -15 Deg Farenheit two winters ago. And has been comfortable for almost 4 years now with no major damage...silly minor things.
The shirt is by Propper...it's the "Combat Shirt" in ATACS AU. There are a few colors, but mine is ATACS which I greatly like.
Hope that helps!!
Hi how do you think this hold up in a decent amount of wind/rain without the 'super light tarp' that you mentioned? The rain cover doesn't seem to have much hang over the edge of the inner hammock. I'm trying to work out how suitable it would be for monsoon weather in Asia. Thanks.
my opinion is that it would be good up to a steady rain, or heavy rain without driving wind. the velcro is kind of weak to be honest...it's not the best enclosure method, especially for wind. be careful in the wind with a hammock, especially with blowing trees, it can stretch or snap your system. I've been in serious wind and rain, but definitely needed the tarp to supplement.
i really want to buy this hammock, i already have a fair bit of dd gear, i have a camping hammock and a frontline hammock and they are both in snake skins,
I'm very happy with this kit. it's been wonderful
Hey new subscriber here. I have this on the way any day now. How water proof is the small tarp? Let's say you forgot your 3x3. Will you stay dry in torrential rain ?
Welcome aboard and thanks for the support! Glad you dropped a line! This is by far my most used and favorite shelter system. I bought all the Superlight version of both the hammock system as well as the tarp. My tarp is the 3x3. I used it in horrendous conditions and it kept me safe, dry, and warm(ish) for the given conditions. Over time it will stretch and sag, but you can keep on it with proper tension. Also, I had to eventually water proof it again. I have very very very many of my videos that feature this system as a whole. If you're interersted, let me know and I'll put together a little playlist for you to see my videos featuring this equipment. You will absolutely love it...just treat it carefully as it's expensive and light weight.
Actually here's the playlist...I made it real quick. I'm heading into the mountains tomorrow for a couple days...this will give you some stuff to watch...haha! Oh, and the Superlight Tarp is my tarp for this trip as well! Thanks again!
th-cam.com/play/PLXR0rdH8xgW2gykXkXEXHb5Ab7DP7fcmG.html
here is from me some add....when i got my DD Jungle hammock i made at home more easy setup option which if you think when you setup it if you don't put mosquito net and rain cover what can be happen? 1-if no rain it is ok but can be mosquito in side till you full setup it..2-if it is rain if no rain cover on until you put rain cover on inside can get wet..
so i was thinking all..
i put on floor at my place, add mosquito net..than i put rain cover on..rolled in from both sides and sliced into the sleeve...
when i go backpacking i will hang to between trees, slice out hammock..and it is ready to put poles and tight...but from that point you can say how about other items can get wet...how about changing clothes for sleep..for all you need another item which is tarp comes...you need large size tarp on top so you can change your clothes under the tarp without getting wet..because you can not do in hammock..not easy
That's pretty much what I do. I use a 10x10 tarp over the top.
hello can anyone tell me if the canopy/tarp fits the frontline xl?
Hey did you figure this out? If not I just got the Jungle hammock and have a Frontline XL so I can test it for you?
@@CrowsComputer hello i never did manage to find out, and i would be very much obliged if you could let me know, thanks.
@@fighting3209 Sure, I am taking both out on Saturday and will check!
@@RuairiMcNicholasIE hello, since your last comment I've contacted dd hammocks and the guy there told me this,
Thank you for your email.
I'm afraid that the canopy for the SuperLight Jungle Hammock is not
compatible with the XL Frontline. I actually tested this myself as these
hammocks use the same hammock poles, and I thought it might work. It
seems however that with the extra material/width the XL Frontline causes
the poles to rest at a different position than the Jungle Hammock, and
that canopy doesn't quite make it over the top and sides in the same way.
If there is anything else we can help with please let me know.
thought this could save you a little room in your pack lol, but as you more than lightly know, some times these things can be made to work, so your are welcome to try for yourself, regards.
@@fighting3209 Hey mate! Didn't end up bringing the XL Frontline with me but should be bringing it this weekend and will give it a go if I remember to! But I do know the canopy is a perfect fit to the Jungle hammock and uses velcro to attach so probably tricky to get over it. One of their smaller separate tarps might work though...
Cool camo shirt. Who makes it?
+outer limitless Thanks for the reply. I am a new subscriber. Your videos are informative. Thanks for sharing.
What's better DD or Flying Tent?
I'm not familiar with Flying Tent. I took a look at it, and it does look nice. Seems like both have pro's and con's. The Flying Tent looks quite pricey, but the DD isn't cheap either. I can highly recommend the DD, but I'll do some more research into the Flying Tent to see what else I can learn. Thanks for writing!
Thanks!
I should say .i lost everything in a short space .. so got my outdoor gear and took off . Scotland .in a hammock in the uk you are not actually classed as camping .. so you cant be moved on .. according to a couple of park wardens i met along my travels .. so good to know if your in the uk where even being free isnt free 😁
Interesting...so are you saying you could camp in a park in a hammock?
Be careful with this ruling. Scotland has much freer camping and access rules than England and Wales.
Nice great info , does the snake skin come with the Hammock ? thanks
It is separate. There are a few companies that make them, but I found the best fit is the DD Hammock specific. It's definitely helpful, and really important to protect your hammock.
What a Tree Huggers you have??
This system comes with lightweight straps. I do try to use the factory straps as they are my lightest that I own currently. The whoopie sling system on the hammock allows for infinite adjustment and works very well.
Bear tested mother bear approved.
Haha! You try this system out?? I've really enjoyed it quite a bit. No bears though...
Had one..broke on second camping trip. Cheap rubbish.
That's a shame...I have used mine probably 40 distinct times with no issues yet. You must be rough.
If that's true, they'll replace it. This gear is excellent!
How waterproof is this??
It's really good actually. I have used mine for more than 4 years now and still going strong. I do double up with a tarp generally if I expect heavy weather and especially snow.